 Can you hear me? Hi, Karen, can you hear me? You can hear. Alright, thank you. Nice display picture, Anand. Okay, good morning guys. I hope you all are doing well. You're doing well. Sira, how are you doing? You weren't well last week. You weren't well last week. A bunch of you were not well. Yeah? All okay now? Amazing. Awesome. Okay, I hope you guys online are doing well. Nina, Karen, Shiv, Kumar. Okay, great. So yeah, we've been going through this course on ministering divine healing. So we are in chapter seven and we'll get started with chapter seven. Then we'll see where we finish today. Okay, so out of the six chapters that we've completed, tell me a couple of things that you've learned that you remember. I'm not doing a memory test. What I'm asking is of the six chapters that we've covered or in these six chapters we've covered, what's the one or two things that kind of stood out to you that you feel like you'll be carrying with you after you graduate and go? God's nature to heal everyone, okay? Sorry, Francis. Everybody can minister healing and deliverance, yeah? Thank you. What else? He is God. He wants to do whatever he wants to do. Very good. Okay, what else? You can tell me more than one point. Just because I said, okay, one point. Healing and deliverance depends on the person of Jesus and not in the methods or in the process. Yeah, that's a very important point. Okay, what else? Vimal, anything? The fullness of God is expressed in the person of Jesus Christ. Yes, yeah, thank you, Vimal. Everything, sorry. Right, everything we do is dependent on who he is and not on us. Yeah, thank you. Okay, anything else? Anand? Okay, yeah. You know what my next question is. So what else? So Anand says some seven principles. Yeah, the will of God, the exercise of faith, the flow of compassion, the anointing of the Holy Spirit, okay? The methods Jesus used. The nature of Jesus is revealed. Okay, the nature of Jesus is made. Yeah, okay. Yeah, awesome. The principles, okay? Anything else? Sri Radha? Sorry Vijay, we were saying something about humility. Yeah, humility, okay? Nikhil, anything? Minister. Okay, so Nikhil used to think, we have another mic that can go around. So Nikhil was saying that he used to think that only pastors can minister healing and deliverance. Okay, but now everyone can, every believer can. Okay. All right, Sri Radha, I have not forgotten you. Bolo. May I just help and encourage people to believe in Jesus more? Yeah, absolutely. All right, I will thank you all for sharing because I'm sure there's more than just one point that we can just take away even after you graduate, especially after you graduate because everything that you learn here and if you don't do it after you graduate and go out of these compound worlds is useless. Okay, Bill Johnson says, Bible study without Bible experience is useless. Okay. Bible study without Bible experiences are useless. Okay. So you can study everything about the Bible and about the things that Jesus did and whatnot. He has called us to do something more. And if you don't walk in that, just waste. Okay. So let's look at chapter seven, getting into it. This chapter looks at the practical guidelines on ministering healing. Okay. Practical guidelines. Now I want to start off by turning our attention, our focus on the title of this chapter itself. It says practical guidelines, not rules. There's a difference. Okay. There's a difference between rules and guidelines. Rules is like, you have to have to follow this. Right. There's the old saying, no rule is rule even for a, okay. But guidelines are saying, okay, hey, all of this will help you. You can try this out. It's not saying you have to do this. Okay. So practical guidelines on ministering healing. Now we are going to learn a few ways to minister healing, but everything that we will learn about ministering, it's the same for receiving healing as well. So I can just change the title of this chapter and say practical guidelines on receiving healing. All of these points are the same. We'll remain the same. Okay. So everything that we are about to learn in this chapter is not only about us learning how to minister, but also to receive. And I think it's very important for us to learn to receive in any aspect of our lives. Okay. And I'm sorry, I keep bringing this up, but then I've seen there's a lot of Christians, only these Christians do, especially worship leaders of musicians. After the worship service, whenever you go and tell them it's like brother or sister, it's a wonderful worship. You sang really well. It's like, oh, no, brother, it's not me. It's all God. No, no, no. Shai is coming. It's, I mean, you know, people say it's like, oh, it's not me, but it's all God. And I'll be like, it wasn't that good. But the thing is, it's very important for us to learn to receive. Say, thank you. Praise God. You know what I'm saying? Because if we don't learn to receive, we will not have a crown to give before the king. If we don't learn to receive honor, we will not know how to give honor. Or you will not have a crown to give before the king. You know what I'm saying? So as much as we are Christians, leaders and ministers, we are being equipped and trained to minister, it's also very important for us to learn to receive. Right? It's, we can give so many examples of it, like even help. Sometimes it's like, can I help you? Like, no, no, I can do this on my own. Like my son is like, I want to hold your cycle. Like, no, don't leave me. I can do this on my own. Even receiving help talks about our humility. You know what I'm saying? Like, why should I take from him? Why should she help me? Why should I receive healing from him? I can do this on my own. Do you see a tinge of pride in it? Yes. And so just being able to receive things in life in a beautiful way is very important. Okay. So ministering healing and receiving healing, all of this will come into the same aspect of it. Okay. Are you guys with me? So what we're going to attempt to learn in this chapter is different methods, different ways, as it says, different guidelines. But again, what we've seen is it's not in the process or in the methods, but it is all about the person of Jesus. Okay. So here's the first, let's go. Here's the first guideline is one through personal faith in God. Okay. How do we minister healing or how do we receive healing is one through personal faith in God. Right. So let's look at the notes. It says God has declared that his word is medicine to our body. Okay. Is another mic ready? Okay. I just, if you don't mind, just keep it so that when you read it, those online, we don't have another corded mic. Okay. Never mind guys. So let's see if you can get that ready for the next class. I'll read most of the scriptures. Proverbs four, right? Okay. Proverbs chapter four was 20 to 22. Don't get distracted by them. Proverbs chapter four was 20 to 22. It says, excuse me, my son, pay attention to what I say. Pay attention guys. Okay. My children. Okay. My son, pay attention to what I say. Turn your ear to my words. Do not let them out of your sight. Keep them within your heart. For they are life to those who find them and health to one's whole body. Okay. Yeah. So God has declared that his word is medicine to our entire body. And when faith is mixed with the word that we receive, God's power is released. So with his word, where we take his word, right? Why do we do this declaration every Sunday? This is God's word. This morning also you all did, right? Yeah. I heard it. Right. So God has declared that his word is medicine to our entire body. And when faith is mixed with the word that we receive, God's power is released. I heard it. Right. Every day and every Sunday, every week after week, we declare it. Isn't it? Okay. Why is it important to declare his word when it mixes with our faith, it releases the power of God? Are you with me? Yes. Let's try and do one demonstration. Okay. Prince, you have the mic with you. Okay. Can you use the mic? Okay. So what I'd like you to do is in your mind, start counting between one and 10. I'm not going to read his mind, guys. He's like, who is going to read his mind? Okay. I'll say start. And that's when you start counting one and 10 in your mind. Is that okay? All right. Start. What's your name? Prince. Okay. What were you thinking? Which number were you when I asked you your question? Four. Okay. So you can be thinking one thing. This is just a very simple example, right? You can be thinking one thing, but you declared something else. He was counting between one and 10. But when I asked the question, he said what? The context is different. So the point is you can be thinking anything you want in life, whatever, like you can only he knows what you're thinking, right? But let's say, for example, you're going through something and you really don't like what you're going through a storm in life and whatnot, right? You're thinking that you're negative. You're feeling oppressed. You're feeling depressed and whatnot. But you declare something else. His word is life. He sent his word and healed my disease. What are you doing? You're thinking something else, but it doesn't matter. But you're declaring life. Are you with me? And so that is what's happening here is you are mixing God's word with faith and that releases the power of God over you, right? And verse after verse, scripture after scripture, we have his word releases life. His word is life. He sent his word and he healed and healed our diseases by his stripes. We are healed. It may be looking like something very different, but you're declaring something very different. Are you guys with me? Yes. No. Are you understanding? Okay. So first guideline is through personal faith in God. Okay. So you can have faith in God for your own healing. Example, the woman with an issue of blood. That's in Matthew chapter nine. Okay. You can have faith in God for your own healing. The two blind men or one of the 10 lepers. And you can also have faith in God for healing of others. Okay. So faith in God can be expressed in a variety of ways. Believing and speaking. Okay. Can someone read Romans chapter 10 verse nine and 10? Prince, if you don't mind, since you have the mic, Romans chapter 10 verse nine and 10, we all know that verse Romans chapter 10 verse nine and 10. It's okay Prince. You found it? Okay. Go ahead. Thank you. So believing in your heart and declaring it. Is it? Excuse me guys. Okay. It's expressed in one by believing and speaking confessing. And the second thing is believing and acting on that faith. Okay. You just can't say. So we call this as exercising your faith. Isn't it? Yes or no. Exercising. Faith. Say everybody say exercise. Faith. Okay. So how many of you would believe if you say, if I tell you that I'm sitting guys, I'm working out. I'm working out right now. Am I? I'm doing pull-ups guys. Seriously. Trust me. I'm doing push-ups. Can't you all see? Guess what I'm saying, right? We all seem to like the idea of faith. We like the idea of exercising faith, but we don't exercise. I mean, all of us like the idea of waking up early, going to the gym or going walking, staying fit and have some kind of a pack instead of a family pack. You know what I'm saying, right? Okay. We all like to believe that. It's a good idea. What an idea, Satji. Right? But we don't act on it. We all like the idea of it, but this is what Christian life is all about. It's not enough that you just like the idea. It's not enough that you like the idea of Christianity. It's not enough to like the idea of the cross. It's not enough to like the idea that you like the word of God. It's not enough for you to have, you know, say, I like the idea that I love Jesus and not show it in your actions. Waste. Absolute waste. It is not enough to say that you only like this idea. So what I'm trying to say is, it's not enough to say that you have faith and not act and not declare it. Are you guys with me? Right? It's, I mean, it's, it's an expression of obedience. Think about Joshua and God says, you know, you know, Wall of Jericho Sunday school story. Isn't it? Every day for seven days, one go one round around it. On the seventh day goes seven times around the wall. Now you tell me, is there a power in them walking around the wall? Are they releasing some kind of power? They obeyed and they expressed their faith. Isn't it? And that unleashes the power of God to bring down walls. Isn't it guys? And so that's what faith is. It's all about believing what God has done for you, what he's doing for you. You speak it. You have to speak it and then act on it. Okay. This is for you and for those around you. Remember this is, this can be two summons. You can preach the same sermon two different Sundays, change the title, same notes, how to minister healing. Part one, how to receive healing. Part two, same sermon notes. Are you guys with me? Right? So one is also what's the first point guideline is through personal faith in God. Look at that. It's through personal. It begins with you. Personal. Right? You build that relationship with them, that personal relationship, that intimate relationship with him. It all begins with that relationship, that intimate relationship. Isn't it? Okay. So it's the same thing for exercising your faith for yourself and for others. The second guideline is through the prayer of agreement. Through the prayer of agreement. Okay. In the notes it says Matthew chapter 18 was 18 and 20. Matthew 18 was 18 and 20. It says, Assuredly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven. And whatever you lose on earth will be lost in heaven. Again, I say to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered together in my name, I am there in the midst of them. Okay. So again, we do this being in agreement while releasing our faith and exercising our God given authority. What is the authority guys? What is authority? What is our God given authority? Tell me. Everybody, all of you, I keep saying we all like the idea that we've, you know, God is given as authority. What Jesus has done on the cross. What Jesus, the authority that Jesus had, he's given to us. Yeah. Okay. So what is that? There is no agreement to what Nikhil is saying. And we are talking about having agreement. Look at them Nikhil and ask them, agree with me guys. Tell them. Tell. Not just him. Okay. If there's another similar word for agreement, what would that be? A similar word for agreement. Okay. So we came in agreement. Sorry. Covenant. Okay. Unity. Yeah. Yeah. Covenant. Yeah. Covenant. Unity. It's all similar, right? In the new church, in the new testament, you see the time and time and time again. It says believers gather together in one accord. In one accord. In unity. In unity. Sorry. Sorry. Consent. Consent. Consent. Okay. So you like you're giving them consent. Is that what you're saying? Oh, right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. You're saying something. Right. The agreement covenant. I just reminded of this one thing of covenant. God. See God is a covenant keeping God. No. I've got a so good that he made a covenant with a man while he was sleeping. While he was sleeping. Who's that man? The jacker. Okay. Okay. You can read about this, but Solomon, right? He's dreaming. The man is sleeping. Get what I'm saying? He is sleeping. And God makes a covenant with the man who is sleeping in his dreams. I mean, okay. So that should say something about our God. Right. So, so, so say the least that there is power in agreement. Then when two or three are gathered together, when we come together, what is, what is the difference between our gathering or any of the get together? The world has parties. They all have the others. They all have come together to barbecue. What is the difference? Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Right. So verse 20 in Matthew chapter 18, it says, we are gathered together in my name. That's the whole thing. That's right. When we are gathered together in his name, that is the differential equation. Okay. So there is power in agreement through the prayer of agreement. And that's the second guideline. Next one is through the prayer of faith through the prayer of faith. Okay. James chapter five was 14 and 15. James chapter five was 14 and 15. Anyone among you sick, let him call for the elders of the church and let them pray over him anything, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. Verse 15, and the prayer of faith will save the sick. And the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. Okay. So verse 14, is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church and let them pray over him. Verse 15, and the prayer of faith will save the sick. John 14, 14 is if you ask anything in my name, I will do it. Matthew 21, 22 and whatever things you ask in prayer, believing you will receive. Okay. So in James, of course, we know that they call for it says James is writing called the elders of the church and let them pray for you release a prayer of faith. But we also know that you sure the leaders of the church can pray for you. The elders of the church can pray for you minister healing. But if there's one another thing that we've learned is that all believers can minister healing and deliverance. Isn't it? Yes, you agree, right? It's not just for pastors or teachers or healing evangelists, et cetera, et cetera. Okay. Some and there are these small questions that come up. For example, in the same verse in verse 14, it says, let them pray over him anointing him with the oil in the name of the Lord. I've had questions being asked. Okay. He passed a, uh, uh, which oil? Like granite oil, olive oil, you know, like, okay. So in keeping keep on, he just chose one, you know, how much? Next question. What do you want to, you know, how much should I take? You know, so we get too caught up on the methods or whatever. It's just a symbol. It's just, um, the water was there. Water was there. Use water. You know, it's, it's, uh, yeah, it's not really about the process or the method. Okay. So through the prayer of faith. Um, okay. And the next guideline. Okay. So what we've covered so far, three things. One is through personal faith in God, through personal faith in God, you can pray for yourself. You can pray for others as well through the prayer of agreement through the prayer of faith. And then now we go on to the next one is the word of command. Okay. We are in like, in this fourth principle so far, but there seems to be like three recurring things that's common. Um, one is the word of God. One is faith and one is acting on that faith. All of these principles, if you look at it, it's just these three ingredients, different way. Right. Word of God and faith. Right. So through a word of command, Matthew chapter eight was 16. It says, when evening had come, it brought to him many who were demon possessed and he cast out the spirits with a word of command and healed all who were sick and healed all who were sick. Um, can someone read Psalm chapter 33 verse six. I'm sorry. Sam 33 was six. Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy. Nice. Easy. Right. Okay. Okay. So by the word of the Lord. Okay. What is another scripture that we read before was Matthew Tea chapter eight was sixteen. Right? They brought to him many who were demon possessed and he cast them, cast out the spirit with the word select one plural, not words. What's the word, you know? Uh, so. There is power in the authority that he's given to us, and through the word of command is another guideline for us to minister healing and to receive healing. Okay, let's look at Luke chapter four, verse 38 and 39. It says, now he arose from the synagogue and entered Simon's house. But Simon's wife's mother was sick with a high fever, and they made a request of him concerning her. So he stood over her, that is beside her, and rebuked the fever, right? He rebuked the fever and it left her, and immediately she arose and served them. Immediately she arose, she just didn't arise, but she served them. This episode, this thing is nicely captured and chosen if you've seen the series, that's very nice. Okay, so what we are being encouraged to do is, again, from the life of Jesus, we don't see Jesus being intimidated. It's like, oh, demon possessed, oh, seven demons, six demons in one body. I don't know what to do. He was not intimidated. He was not shaken. He was not afraid. He's just, with a word, he cast them out. With the word, he rebuked the fever. Okay, once again, guys, in everything that we learn, just keep reminding yourself that you can do this. Don't just like its idea. Don't just like the idea or that, okay, there is power in the word and command. Don't just like it. Exercise it, release it. Okay, and that exercise is also, it's not just for, you use all these guidelines for those who have cancer or some deadly disease. Person has a headache, release it. Person has a stomach ache, release it. Leg ache, whatever it is. Toothache, okay. You get what I'm saying? You start building your faith in the smallest things. Are you with me? You start making that a habit. You know, we all learn about discipline, right? Or integrity. Let's say for example, let's say a person is addicted to pornography. You know what I'm talking about? A person is addicted to pornography. Now, a person who's addicted to pornography, who's watching porn, is not going to do it in front of 50 people. Yes or no? He or she will do it when he or she is alone, when nobody can see, right? And now that's like, it's gone somewhere because now that's questions your integrity and your self-control. It questions, it shows, it displays. Okay, you do not have self-control to overcome the temptation or whatnot. Are you with me? But what I've learned is, you don't just appear on the top of the mountain right away, you climb. Isn't it? So the smallest decisions that you make in life shapes your habits and shapes your disciplines. That is, okay, in the smallest thing, even if nobody is seeing, even if nobody comes on time, I will choose to be there on time. Are you with me? It's the most simplest thing, but what is happening? You are training your mind. You're training your spirit, your inner mind that it doesn't matter what others think. So then when you're being tempted, saying, okay, it's okay, nobody's here. Doesn't matter if nobody's here. I'm not gonna do it. Are you guys with me? So like through a word of a command, it's in all of this, just don't let it be an idea. Exercise it. Declare in the smallest thing, in the smallest trivial things that you think, okay, because in all of this, there is God is powerful and also God is absolutely good and is incredibly beautiful that he wants to see you well. We've seen that it's his nature to see his whole. He is good, isn't it? Another personal thing in my life, it's not related to healing or anything, but this is just a testimony of, just God is beautiful in his own way. One day my dad asked me to take his car and get it washed. And I said this, right? Yeah, and I will never forget that story. I mean, and I was so disappointed at the end of the day where I forgot to take his car for wash and I just looked up to the heavens and said, Lord, what am I gonna do? I don't wanna lie to him. And then it starts pouring. It's like he made the whole city of Bangal to get rain just because, you know, he made me feel that way, isn't it? And that's how good he is. He's incredibly good. He's so good. So, and I think it will give him pleasure when we exercise this authority. Are you guys with me so far? Yeah, I hope everybody online is also doing well and still alive. All right, let's move on. Through the laying on of the hands, again with anointing of oil or with a word of command. Now, what's the name of this chapter? Practical guidelines for ministering healing, isn't it? Also receiving whatnot. And we've also learned some of the principles, seven keys, seven principles to minister healing and whatnot. Now, you will see time and time again, there will be a combination of two, three things that will be used to minister healing, right? So when we pray, sometimes you will just pray, you know, you will release a word of power, word of authority, word of command. If possible, you will even lay your hands on them. So you're not just laying your hands on them. While you're laying your hands on them, you're declaring the word of commandment. Like I rebuked this fever to leave. While you're doing that, you're also exercising your faith. While you're exercising your faith, you are also speaking faith. You see what I'm saying? So when you're ministering healing or receiving healing, it's not just one thing that is happening. It can happen, but more than one thing is happening at a time. Are you with me? There's power of agreement. So when I'm praying for Prince or whoever it is, okay? So I'm agreeing with you. You are agreeing with me. There's a power of agreement. My faith is being exercised. His faith is being exercised. I'm ministering, he's receiving. You get what I'm saying? So I am praying for him. He's praying for himself. So there's a combination of so many things that's happening at one given point. So like what this point is saying here is, through the laying on of the hands with the anointing of oil or with the word of commandment, different process. So let's look at a couple of scriptures what to say. Matthew chapter eight verse three. Then Jesus put out his hand and touched him, saying, I am willing. So what's happening? He put out his hand, touched him, is coming in contact with him and then saying I am willing to be cleansed. Immediately his leprosy was cleansed. Okay, now something about leprosy that the historically that you have to realize in the context of the church and history vice is it was not a disease, it was a curse. So that's why here they're saying immediately the leprosy was cleansed and not healed. And I'm not gonna go too much into detail about this. And the first time it happens is in numbers chapter 12 when God calls Aaron and Moses and his sister Miriam. So, you know, Moses, right? You know, Moses had a brother and a sister, right? Yes or no? Aaron and Miriam. So what this, so once upon a time this dude called Aaron has been talking bad about his brother, what this Moses fellow, he doesn't know what he's doing and his sister was a joint. It's like, you know, and as parents always said, no, it's like, don't do this naughty things. God is always watching. Yes or no? Apparently they didn't get that news. So, and God says, Moses, Aaron and Miriam come outside. It's like calling to the principal's office. Has anyone been there? Come to principal's office? I've gone there many, many times. It's not a nice feeling, right? And so, I mean, so the whole thing of, let's say it starts there, you can go back and read. So it's, it was like a curse and so it's not a disease. So yeah, that's a little bit of a side note. Okay, so Jesus touched and he spoke. Matthew chapter eight was 15. So he touched her hand and the fever left her and she rose and served them. Now, see here, this verse, he just touched her. It doesn't say he spoke. Oh, he said anything. Are you with me? Okay, so he touched her and the fever left her. Then he touched their eyes saying, according to your faith, let it be to you. One more scripture, we move on. Matthew of 2034 says, so Jesus had compassion and touched their eyes and immediately their eyes received sight and they followed him, okay? So this is talking basically about the methods, different process. If you come to the next page, it talks about a ministering healing through laying on of the hands can be done in several ways. For example, if you're looking at your notes or PDF, it's one of the pages, it says laying on of hands along with the prayer of faith in the name of Jesus, laying on of hands and issuing a word of command in the name of Jesus, laying on of hands along with the prayer of faith and anointing with oil, laying on of hands and anointing of oil in the name of the Lord. And no verbal prayer may necessarily be made. Okay, so many different ways to minister and receive healing by laying on of the hands. And this is one of the most common ways, isn't it? So what are some of the common ways that we've learned so far? What are some of the common ways that we've learned so far, guys? Digital. Okay, one of the common thing is what we've just learned is laying on of the hands, isn't it? Okay, the next passage in your notes, it talks about when the sick touch you. So there are times when you touch the people who are sick and you pray for them, you release the word of command over them. And then there are times when the sick people touch you and they are healed. We see that in Matthew chapter nine was 20. And suddenly a woman who had the flow of blood for 12 years came from behind and touched the hem of his garment, Matthew 14 36. And begged him that they might only touch the hem of his garment. And as many as touched it were made perfectly well. Okay, so there are times when people may reach out and touch us in faith. Okay, because people recognize that there's God's anointing over your life. And they just want to touch you. And so their touch is their act of faith and their contact with the power of God. God honors their faith in doing this and they receive their healing. Okay, are you all with me so far? Any questions? Yes. A little loud on, I'll be here. I want to pass the mic, please here. When we are seeing all these practical guidelines of ministering and healing. When we are observing all these practical ways of God's guidance to ministering and healing. So can we consider anything the greater one like Kasi? When we are praying personally with our own faith. Is it the greater one or see, on the second one we saw like agreement. So can we consider this agreement is greater than the personal faith? So we used to see like when people are agreeing for one thing. So can we consider like this God will do this healing little more fast or it depends on the personal faith. So yeah, okay. So basically what you're asking or saying is if is one guideline more important than the other if it is more powerful or more powerful, okay. I wouldn't say that one is better than the other. Like I said, in the beginning of this class itself, these are guidelines. It's not rules, right? So rules says that, okay, you should do this. You should religion says you should do this. You should do this and only then you will attain this, right? But relationship says, okay, these are just certain guidelines. It's good that you can follow. Again, it's not saying you have to do this. Are you with me? See, I'm just saying that with the next point. I'm just kind of mixing that with the next point that says through the announcement of faith is another point. I didn't want to get there but then through the announcement of faith is one of those points, isn't it? Is what saying, just look at the verse. It says, then Jesus said to the centurion, go your way and as you have believed, so let it be done for you. All right, so what Jesus is doing is just announcing it. He's not touched it. There's no agreement that is happening but then there's an exercise of faith. Centurion comes and says, Lord, I am a man in power. I know that you are a man in power as well. So just say the word. So there's just an exercise of faith. That's the common denominator here. It's this exercise of faith, basically. And so, and why I wanted to bring to this point is we can't limit God and put in a box and say, okay, he will work only through this, only through that. Right now, you can speak to a person in another country or another state, another city and over the phone or an SMS. So like, I declare and I pray this over you. How many of you do this? I've done that, right? I'm declaring, you know, healing over you in the name of Jesus. I typed out an SMS or a message and I sent it. What am I doing? I'm announcing the faith, really. And so, am I going to say, okay, just because I didn't get a chance to lay my hands on you and pray God is not going to heal you? No, right? And so that's my conclusion is not one method is better or powerful than the other. It's all comes down to your faith and how you're willing to exercise it. I mean, see, people used to say like, I mean, when we are agreeing together, so it gives the power for that prayer and all. So people used to tell like, I mean, if you are praying for another one thing to be healed or some miracle. So if the group of people combined and prayed people used to tell like, it will be more powerful than this one prayer. And the other thing is, see, when a person, I'll give you an example. A person is suffering from a disease from many years. So some of the pastors used to tell like, if you come to me, I'll pray and you will be healed. I don't know that the testimonies are real or not. So when people see I am the one who have a disease from years, I have the own faith on God. I'm praying since years on that. But on the time when someone told me, when you go there, you'll be healed. I went to that pastor. So he prayed and I got healed. So what we have to consider here. So I don't have faith or the prayer what I am doing don't have power. Or they have to consider like, the person who is praying the pastor have a more power. Right. So is it about power or is it about faith? See, I'm praying since years, I have faith on God. I'm praying for the, not even a miracle only. If anything in my life. But if I go to someone, it's happened. I mean, we used to listen so many testimonies on this. Yeah, absolutely. So I mean, how we can consider these things. So see, now you still went, right? That's you exercising your faith. The woman with the issue of blood, she came. And then the Bible says the power went out of Jesus and healed her, right? So what is happening here is that you are recognizing that this person is anointed, right? And there's another passage I think which we will get to there eventually is once in the, in acts, once there is witness that Peter's shadow healed a person, then they brought a bunch of crippled and so that Peter's shadow will continue to heal them. You get what I'm saying is that they brought, they came and that they are, it's their way of expressing faith. Expressing faith is one thing. And they're also recognizing, okay, this man of God is carrying the anointing of God. Are you with me? And so it's again, it's not one thing is more than the other. It's you came in faith and you recognize that there is power and you got healed. That's how kingdom works basically. So I really don't know how to, how else to answer that. Yeah. Okay. So you've been praying for yourself and you don't receive healing as well. Okay. I mean, we don't have the answers, right? We don't know why it doesn't happen. I mean, that's the answers. That's another thing that we've learned in this course is that we don't know. Sometimes it may happen, sometimes it may not. Are you with me? So we don't know the answer, but then not knowing of the answer, we should not say that this is better than the other. It's okay to just accept that I don't know. And instead of wanting to know the answer, just rejoice in the fact that you've been healed. Instead of finding out why you did not happen when I prayed, we start going down the rabbit hole, as we say it, keep digging, digging, digging, keep going down and down and down, but instead rejoice in the healing. And I would approach it that way. So you'll see the question is valid. The question is genuine, but I think there has to come a point where we have to look at certain situations more than the question. For us, we can understand how things work and how these healings are all happening. So we as believers, we know how things happen and how it works. So when we are coming to the unbelievers and Gentiles, so so many people have these testimonies when we go there and I got healed and all. So some of the people only focusing on these miracles and healings. Like if you come to us only, you'll be healed and all. So we as believers, we can understand what's going on, but if we come to the Gentiles or unbelievers, they don't know, right? So that's what my concern. So, I mean, what is important in there that they need to know, what do they need to know? If we're praying also, like people are not telling about these things like, if you pray, I mean, if you have your own faith, they're not telling like this. If you come to us and you're... So it's just, okay. So what you're saying is that they're not being told that you can also pray for yourself. Is that what you're saying? Only if you come to me for prayer, I, yeah, that is, yeah, that is not right, I would say. In the earliest chapter, the first or the second chapter, we learned one of the reasons why we, the church doesn't move in the supernatural as much as the wrong teaching is one of the points, isn't it? We need to teach about this. This is a very important subject. Healing and deliverance is very important. And like you said, there are so many testimonies of people coming to Jesus after they were healed. So many countless, isn't it? And so it's our responsibility to teach about it as well, to talk about it. And to tell them that you can also do it. You don't just come to me so that I become famous. You know what I'm saying? And so even in that, when a person prays for it, you pray and immediately you've got the glory. You give God the glory, isn't it? You don't take the credit. You get what I'm saying, okay. And say, I healed, I did this, my ministry did this. That's when it starts getting very ugly. I mean, all the time, okay. Kenina says, the prayer of it, when these guidelines take time. Okay, you know what? Is it okay if we just take the break? We'll come back and address these questions. Is that okay? So I think we take our break and we'll come back. See you guys.