 It's so stupid, it's positively brilliant. THE BREATHE! THE BREATHE! THE BREATHE! THE BREATHE! THE BREATHE! Yup Sholomani the guy. Andrew Shultz. We are the Brilliant Idiots, and turn your great idea into a reality with Squarespace. I'm not just saying that, I'm saying that because there are today's sponsors. Squarespace makes it easier than ever to launch your passion project, whether you're showcasing your work or selling products of any kind, We're beautiful templates and the ability to customize just about anything you can easily make a beautiful website yourself And if you do get stuck Squarespace's 24 7 award-winning customer support is there to help head to squarespace.com Slash idiot for a free trial and when you're ready to launch use the offer code idiot to save 10% off your first purchase of A website our domain first of all show to back. Yeah Gonna do Show team in the building your time show team changing the game show I'm shadow band on Instagram. No, I'm shadow band. No, why you try to silence me, bro What the shadow baby do you got a little makeup on your shoulder? You got I get I thought you a faithful black man I am a faithful black man. My wife. No, this is cuz I'm just a hugger Baby, I got that from curve I walk in there proudly You don't try to wipe it off What I'm gonna do is when I walk in the house when she says what's that you got makeup on your shirt like what? You don't say Smart man, um, yeah, no the shadow band me man. What did that mean? So Instagram does this thing where it basically makes you unsearchable. Okay, so if you type my name Andrew Schultz into Instagram You'd leave a space. I don't show up at all. And if you type my actual Instagram name in it's Andrew Schultz My name might pop up in some of the feeds but below Where it's visual so in other words, you have to keep scrolling. They did it to you too. Yeah Oh, first of all, I'm gonna introduce our guest. I love it. She's a Afro-Latino comedian She has a special on Netflix right now as part of Tiffany had she's she ready I don't know what tissue ready. What coffee series they ready. That's what it's called. They ready comedy series I don't ride a reggae is here. I'd uh How are you? We also have another guest. Yes, my guy. He is um, what do we call you job? I don't say journalists. I don't feel comfortable with journalists cuz I didn't go to school for this shit Yeah school small But a writer he's a writer for boss up. Okay, my man job. Yeah, man. Long time homie. They got internet comics They can have internet journalists Very true. Who's a TV journalist anymore fear. I don't know cuz I don't consider myself a journalist. You're a journalist. I keep hearing it Wait, are you a journalist? I don't think so neither. Yeah, you're a radio guy That's your document in the day-to-day culture and things is going on. I just left a press conference I was at the Jay-Z Rocknation NFL press conference with this white t-shirt on with makeup on and this dream chase a hat and some art muse chaos jeans and some red Pumas, you're brave, bro. Why you are brave. I'm just disarming like those fat girls So you go to this press conference you go to this What is that you was in Japan? Oh, yeah, Japan fascinating fascinating place wildly Intriguing and also super fucking sad Bro, what part did you go to I was in Tokyo and then there's also Kyoto. Don't bother kill Oh, it's clean. It's a hundred percent clean. It's very clean No, dude, it fucking it's like, you know what? Real talk we needed to that was the problem with it It's here's the thing with Kyoto everybody white tells you to go to Kyoto, right? Or everybody non-Asian tells you to go to Kyoto's bird of no what it is is this When Westerners go to Japan, we don't want to see you in a business suit We want to see you doing that fucking Asian shit, bro We want to see a shingled roof the safari smoke bomb ninja, right? We want it really like when you go to Africa you see buildings you're like, bro Where the bones in your nose, bro? That's what we want. Yeah, so it's like so white Westerners go over there And they're like wait, where the kimonos where the sandals where the girls waddling and shit is fucked up So they go go two hours away where they still do that Dumb shit, right, which is up in Kyoto and it's not even authentic. You know, they're wearing it just for a costume It's it'd be like when like Europeans come to America and they look for cowboys, right, right? And they're like that's America. We're like, no, that's gay guys That's not what really Japan is about that exact Japan is a business capital of the world And they perfect everything bro. I had the best and this hurts me as a New Yorker to admit it I had the best pizza in my life really best pizza my whatever they do They're craftsmen. They perfect it really and they can't do it. They kill themselves. Oh, they love killing themselves That's their favorite thing to do Bro they hang themselves in a forest they got a forest for killing themselves They got the hard car where they cut their stomach open they rip out their intestines Oh, that lets me know that they know about reincarnation. I'm about to see reincarnation That was the blackest term I've ever met That's that press conference thing Yeah, you've been talking to too many Democratic candidates The 2020 bill, the reincarnation of black people, I'm Bernie Sanders but for me Because the only way you would kill yourself that easy is if you know you was coming back Or you were so fucking miserable with life Yeah, they have so much pressure They have really unbelievable Did you go to one of the hugging booths? Okay, so this is what they do what I was talking about You have to realize these are fascinating people Japanese, it sounds like I'm knocking They have the best of whatever your experience in life they have the best of in Japan Without a doubt best beef obviously best sushi best pizza best everything But what they trend they transactionizing commodify their whole culture So for example If you want to feel like closeness to a person a woman and just talk to a woman You don't just go to a bar and try to chat up a woman There's no game in Japan, nobody kicks game You go to a bar where women their job at the bar is to talk to you You can't fuck them, you don't fuck them You want to get your nut off later that night You go to a different bar where they jerk you off Damn You want to wash later that night after that because you don't want to go home to your wife With come all over Go to the next bar Another spot to clean your dick after it got whacked off It is every aspect of culture is completely broken up into its mind in detail There's an app for that but their country is apps before that Yeah, they got the hugging one and then they got one to cuddle You just lay down for lunch during your lunch break and just cuddle with a Another person you hold each other Yo, they have a hedgehog cafe The fuck is a hedgehog? You know Sonic? Are you eating shit? No I was gonna say that You said cafe Literally they have a puppy cafe They have a cat cafe They have literally you're walking down the street Why? Because you're walking down the street and you're feeling sad You're like what would make me happy Oh that's beautiful Puppies But a Japanese person would go Well what is the cutest thing ever And you're like puppies and they're like Well we should let people play with that during the day If they want it for like half an hour Right in America we'd be like That's stupid But in Japan they'd be like No We need that Damn right And they just do it Dude it is I'm telling you it's fascinating But also there's like a sadness Because when you commodify everything There's no organic Everything is transactional Bro like you didn't even see like And dude they're so polite It's like the bowing is excessive They're so polite They're constantly it's like squirrels They're constantly like You ask Can we get a taxi I didn't meet one just like Calm Japanese dude Oh what a fan Like that does nothing And a lot of people Son Mad people So it's like New York Times 10 Something like that I felt about it I went to Tokyo with I went to Tokyo with Marcia And Brochus like back in 2000 Cold We picked that name up You just dropped it It ended up right fast It ended up right fast And I had the best fucking Egg McMuffin Did you go to McDonald's or you know that Son Best Egg McMuffin you ever had in your life I don't know if it's the water I don't know what the fuck it is But like they perfect me that shit It's not even a fake egg It's like a legit egg A legit piece of country ham Whatever the fuck it is When I was When you eat eggs there You'll open the egg And the yolk is red And they go Oh the chicken only eats herb And I'm like I didn't even know you should feed the chicken Yeah Some specific thing Well guys Yeah I know we got a young lady here I'm not telling you what the best part is I mean it's that everything else Is that good in Japan I mean I'm trying to live vicariously Through y'all guys With a faithful black man over here You don't know how to pussy it Man she's asking You know what I mean What's up on you with the hand grab shit What With the girls You leave out the club And the girls will come up to you And like rub the middle of your palm And they let you know Like if you want to go around here This is what it is They'll hold your hand Walk down the block And so you say yes or no And you shoot them off And they roll out You don't know how to say yes in Japanese Jock Nah I should have figured that out Jesus Christ I stayed away I didn't want to trouble Such a different word for women There is I wanted for you Did you go? Yeah Nobody rubbed the palm of my hand But what I did learn Was a lot of those Japanese women That come here And you see them shopping They're Gucci They're Louis Vuitton They're prostitutes at home And they come here They make so much money They are They are like They make so much money In Japan Selling ass And then they come here And Ball out of control And have more money Than people who go to work Like got real jobs And careers Bro How did you feel about Like what it was Like to be a woman in Japan Well for me They were looking at me Like What is she Yeah Yeah Who is she Yeah You know It happened to me in Korea And in Japan Where someone was like You were here Michelle Obama Yes They round you off Yeah They round you off to the nearest black Right Yeah And whoever they can identify With like a tall black dude Is Shaq Y'all Y'all Y'all Y'all Y'all And they did That whole Michelle Obama thing Or Tyra Banks Or Puerto Ricans are unheard of And I'm too dark I mean Dude It is There was a I went out to dinner With a couple Japanese women One was Japanese But born in Brazil And raised in Brazil And the other was Japanese But raised in the UK Right So they're Japanese Genetically But cultured In different places And I was just asking them About like What it's like being a woman There Like is there like Casual dating Is there game And that kind of shit And they're like No it's not Doesn't exist in all And I was like Is it kind of like Do you also work And they go Yeah You have to do everything And I'm like That's even more impressive Because think about like At least in like Like a misogynistic culture Right Like the women They're like You got to stay in the house But you get to stay in the house In Tokyo It's like Take care of kids Do the laundry Do all that shit And work 14 hours At the fucking Toyota factory Isn't that worse Building fucking carol Building carol Like isn't that You don't get any of the benefits Usual misogyny Misogyny that goes along with this shit And they were saying Like one percent of Japanese women Organs They said She said she was fucking the Japanese Dude once and she was like I'm about to come And he goes Oh you don't have to tell me that Like it didn't matter to him Yeah yeah yeah Like that's not important Yikes Dude yes So it's like In a weird way And don't get I don't want to live in a society Where women can't come Well isn't that society Isn't that society right now Speak for yourselves guys I thought you just had a conversation With some women last night What a woman you didn't make come No not my No not my Listen Tell us about Marcia and Broce Since Japan That's what's that Help me I don't know who that is Who is that Marcia and Broce One of the greatest R&B singers of all time Yeah the homie the big sis That's one of the greatest ever Marcia and Broce Hell yeah What about Ariana Grande She sang at Nipsey's funeral Oh did she She sang at Nipsey's funeral It's a beautiful voice Slued out the water I love her She's very attractive woman Yeah Marcia beautiful And did you at least try to engage To my sister You guys are related No These are my people Hell no What if she threw it at you F*** no Really No Do you believe that I don't know So wait I don't know if I believe that That's awesome I mean I get it I mean listen I got home girls I don't look at it in that way at all You know what I'm saying It's not even, I never looked at it like that. I have eyes for my wife and that's it. But prior to that? Never. I think that that's one of the mistakes that guys make when they come to women. Hold on, you've become friends with a girl that like you were sexually attracted to you, but I don't even understand what's going on here. You mean you've just been friends with a girl and even if she tried to have sex with you, you wouldn't do it? Absolutely. 100%. I don't even understand. There's not one. If I'm, if we're just friends, it's because I'm not sexually attracted to a part of your personality. I got beautiful homegirls who are just my homegirls. There's not a single girl, there's not a, meaning like you could be beautiful, but your personality doesn't sexually turn me on. So then you're just a homie. We're like friends. There are girls like that. Like I'm, you know. But you're not platonic female friends. Not hot ones. That's not true. You just said they're beautiful, but their personality is fucked up. The personality isn't sexy. What's the sexy personality? Like you know these girls are trying to like dap you up and shit. It's like, what is that about? They don't give me a hug. Yeah, she got, you know. So if the most beautiful woman in the world came up to you, dapped you up, and she sounded like Jada, because if she wanted to give you something, you wouldn't smash? I'd be like, listen here, Caitlyn. You ain't gonna trick me twice. I wish for the Jada, we gonna make it. Fool me once. I don't, I think it's better to have women friends that are just, to be cool with. Like, I think you're a father. I'm not denying that, but I'd be inauthentic and I'd be disingenuous if I said that I was just friends with a girl that I was sexually attracted to. I'm not one of these guys go, oh no babe, let me help you put together your fucking furniture. No, like yeah, I think you're attractive. Now if I have a girl, like right now I got a girl, so I'm not acting on attraction to these other girls. And I can carmen part mentalize it, but I'm not gonna act like I wouldn't if they threw it at me and I'm single. No, I've never felt like that with any of my home girls. I value my friendships too much. If I call you my sister, that's what it is. You know what I'm saying? I got friends that are my home girls who are like my family for real. Like, and I'm cool with that. And if they, what if they were like, I want to be closer than family? I'm gonna be like, I'm gonna tell my wife because not she gonna kick you out. You over here, you over here even did it with us. You coming on vacation and all this bullshit. Hypothetically speaking, right? Your wife said, you know what? You've been faithful for so long that you deserve some unfaithful. You deserve it because you're such a great, strong black man that even the strongest black man, you know, blade every once in a while need to bite some real blood. The serum don't always work. So if she was like, go out there. No, no, no, I would say baby. Baby. That's a trick. As always, we're in this together. Of course it's true. I would say baby, as always we're in this together. So I'm good, you know what I'm saying? But if you insist, you choose. What if she said, I will divorce you unless you go out there and you get some. I'm gonna say you choose. So she choose the girl. Yeah. You find some strange, not your home girl. Exactly. Oh, you do bring the home girl. That's a shame. Oh my God. That's the trick. That's a shame. That's a shame. You can't do that. That's the trick. Like, oh, I knew it. That was bait. Fuck that, all right? If it, but when you got a whole crew of home girls, is this your home girl? Like, look, man, why if you're making me go fuck somebody else? You find somebody for me, please. Now that might be the safer place. If it comes down to that, like, the hurdle's on the way. We are, every, I think many women have done that. You trick your dude and saying, if you could sleep with anybody. Any one of my friends. Really? Which one would it be? Yeah. But you don't even know your most attractive friend with the fat ass. No, but that's because my perception of a beautiful woman is very, or a woman that you want to fuck is very different than a man's perception. I know, you like a girl who's like good at listening. Because I'm a girl, right? Yeah, yeah. Claudia, listen well. Are you like a girl too? No. No, no. No, meaning like a woman's, what a woman is attracted to, right, is different than what a man is attracted to. Got you. Right, and it's, I think that you're completely right about that, right? Like, we have different things that we're drawn to. Like, a guy, I can be sexually into a girl that is like dumb, has nothing to say, and completely boring, but I can find her physically attracted enough to want to sleep with. My ex-boyfriend, I asked him, and he finally answered the question. What are you saying? It was a girl I would never think. Like, I have some beautiful, beautiful friends who are voluptuous, have the most banging bodies, and the girl he said was this white girl that didn't have no ass. And I was like, really? I broke up with him. But, ah. You broke up with him? Yeah, we broke up, but we had a lot of other problems, but- Because of a white girl with no ass? No, no, no. I should have broke up with him. You should have let him fuck and be like, not good. But it was because she was a white girl, and in his mind, she'll do anything. Why do brothers think that? People of color, why do we think that white girls do anything? That's not true. No, it's not. It's the freakiest girl I've ever seen. Charlamagne. Man. Like, I might as well say anything, anything. No. What are you, tell me what you call anything. Listen, you kids, I've dated everybody. I dated Latinas, I dated white women, I dated black women, I dated the whole thing. Not Indians, but everybody but Indians. What a white woman doing that black woman on? You can be getting ahead from a white woman, and you can go, you can go, hey, eat my ass. Right? You could look at a white woman's face, and go, hey, eat my ass. And then she'll look up and be like, I'm gonna, Black, if you- Alex, what do you mean- So, what, sisters ain't doing that? They got a warm up. Let me tell you something. I've dated plenty of black women. I have attempted. No, let the record show. Tell, I've, I said, and it wasn't, hey, eat my ass. It was more of like a, what would it be like if you ate my ass? Like, is that like part of the thing? But listen, no, in your younger days, in your younger days, you had a hairy ass, number one. I do have a hairy ass. Number two, and I think that it's like some white supremacy type of feeling for a black girl for just being something some white dick, and then I was like, eat my ass. Well, you didn't have to make it fucking racist, bro. I just told you, I asked the white girls too. I was trying to treat her like an equal, okay? I was trying to uplift this beautiful black queen, you know? I've gotten my ass eaten by white girls, black girls. Black girls eating your ass? Yes. I'm not gonna talk about your marriage, but I'm at extra marital affairs. Black girls just running down eating your ass all willy-nilly, your ass. All willy-nilly. You're in sweat pants all day sweating up that ass. I don't do that. I'm not nasty. What do you mean? I wash. I know black women who eat ass. Oh, black women eat ass. But the difference is I think that we're the ass. Black women eat ass. Let me tell you something. Comet culo. No. Not if you say it like that. How do you say it in Spanish? I don't know, but that comet culo is it. I just think that with white women versus black women is that white women don't get their self-esteem. You can't mess with their self-esteem based on their sexual activity. It's very socially and culturally acceptable. Ooh, what is that for real? I get what you're saying. You know, white people don't get their self-esteem. Of course, white girls are whole is not. She don't care. She might not be like, she's not just keep it moving. She's like, I'm going to tell my dad to fire you, motherfucker. You know what I mean? So you're saying is it my normality? White girls go to the slut walk? I've never seen white girls at the slut walk. Not at the slut walk. They invented the slut walk. They are the slut walk. We can't. The slut walk. The Amorosa's version of the slut walk. No, the slut walk is for white girls to dress slimy. No, not Amber's version. The Amorosa's version is different than the one that's the... But Amber's version is, if you call it the slut walk, then you're perpetuating patriarchy. If you are saying I'm a slut and I'm proud of it, then you are not standing for your sexual liberation. You're taking the label that men gave you and robing them of being like, okay, that's me now. It's calling it like the Ann People Walk. Yeah, N***a Walk. Yeah, that's Ann. I'm tired of these white people calling us N***a. We're going to do a N***a Walk. Matter of fact, let's embrace it. What's up, N***as? Yeah. It's the same, it's like for me, but women of color, we can't do that. Our street value goes down. Women, if you're a hoe, it's bad. Yeah, because we get penalized for that in our culture. You do? Of course we do. I think it's more demonizing for women of color than it is for women. Yeah, and within ourselves and amongst... You have to understand that black women have been over sexualized since the beginning of time. So there's so many nuances that comes with that sexual reality when it comes to people. Ida, you got to answer this shit for me. When did Latinas become black? My whole life growing up, Latinas would shun that shit. There's all, I'm not, I'm not. It's different, that's different, but a lot. There was a lot of colorism in the Latino community. When the boats landed in Puerto Rico, Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Colombia, and Spain went there and colonized them and raped them. That's when there are so many black Latinos and I don't understand, you know, I think the divide and conquer thing is real. Of course, the colorism, it exists in Haiti. Haitians are aqua-latinos. Right, but I'm saying for the first time in my existence... Since we got woke. It seems like Latinos are embracing the blackness that is in their heritage and their genetics, whereas prior to that, there'd be a rejection of it and there was a distinct, like, I would see, I would see darker-skinned Latinos call black people negro. Yes, yeah. When they were... Negro. Negro? And now... Oh, Dominicans will call black people. They'll be like the black people and I'm like, bitch, you... You what? They got cornrows, they got the whole shit. It was a time when the term black wasn't even a good term. The term black was considered a derogatory term. Around 1965, I think, 64, 65, is when they started embracing the term black power. And Martin Luther King Jr. did not like the term black power because Martin Luther King Jr. said that what Martin Luther King Jr. was about was equality. He wanted everybody to be on equal footing. He didn't want white power or black power. He just wanted everybody to have power. So he used to be against, like, his man, Stokey Carmichael, and them who was screaming out black power. So they didn't even like that term. Hmm. I understand his rationale, but sometimes you need a power movement to even get the self-esteem up to the point where you can feel equal. Like, sometimes you need it. It's like those slut walk and all these, kind of like women's marches, it's just, for me, like, I just view it as an overcompensation that is needed to balance the ecosystem because there was an insecurity. Yeah, but with the slut walk, for me, it's like, call it the sexual liberation walk. Kind of another name, like, I own my pussy walk, but not the slut walk. Yo. I would hope you own it. Yeah. My pussy is a sole proprietor. And you know what I mean? You don't, not the slut walk. Who do women think are, like, against that? That's what I've never understood. The thing is, like, I tell you, that there is a penalty for being promiscuous when you're a woman, right? Who charges you? Like, there's gotta be... The culture. Yeah, the culture of men. It's the society. But we love, we love sluts. But that's the hip-hop thing of us. That's not true. But that's the hip-hop thing. You don't have sluts? Would you marry one? I mean, sluts. Yes! That's a difference. Would you love her or because she's a slut? Her being a slut and me loving her, I'm not gonna love her for her sluttiness, but, like, if a girl's had a bunch of sexual partners, all right? That's just a fuck, I'm a fucking man. But let's be clear, you might be that, that might be for you. Not everybody is jiving with that. Everybody's not going that way. That's insecurity, dawg. It is, but in the hood, they be like, oh, no, don't fuck with her. She fucked Junebug. She fucked Manmass. Exactly. Don't fuck with her. She fucked me. You're a woman, you're a woman, your value depreciates when you sleep with a bunch of guys. When you're a man, your value appreciates. But real talk, that's how we each view each other, right? It's like women, you value the fact that other girls wanna fuck me, and that makes you, not you, but that makes a woman wanna fuck me more. Cause you're like, oh shit, well if they fuckin' in, what's so special about him? For some women? I think we're just being generalizations. Generalizations. Yeah, some women, some women have a sense of value. We value wanna fuck. Cause we got terms like dirty dick. But y'all don't care. There's not one dirty dick dude out there that can't get whoever he wants. Who's the dirty dick? It depends though. I don't know, everybody doesn't want HPV. I'm gonna say 30 has a scale. We all got HPV. Well yeah. We ain't got HPV. I'm not fuckin' no girls without HPV. You wanna be with a girl who has sex with more, listen to what she's saying. Yeah, you're surprising you, would you be upset? Nah, that's a slut, bro. Nah, that's different, bro. You can't be, you're a slut. It's level to this slut shit. I gotta be sluttier. It's level to this slut shit. Yo, there's a dick gap. You know what I mean? I gotta have at least 30% more bodies than you. Listen, I used to do this joke and I'll go on stage and I said ladies, how many of you have had sex with a man and wished that he died so you wouldn't have to count him? Holy shit. And then everybody would get quiet and then I would just release him and all the women would go crazy. Cause it's like, there's a belief that you shouldn't have more sex partners than four if you're a woman. Like it shouldn't be more than one hand. Like all that bullshit, I think that joke is hilarious until you find out the man died of AIDS. Then you're like, oh, no. You just gave me that. Now I put that in the joke. That's going in the special. Talk about your special item. Ida got a great story, man. You know Ida's story? I don't know your story. No. Well, you know, I got kidnapped twice and I talked about it. You didn't learn the first time? Who told you to wander around that playground by yourself? Stop getting in the van. White people have perfected blaming the people. Yo, we the best of it, right? I thought it was a lie. First thing I thought, twice, yo. Twice though, I just stopped walking around alone. You know what? The white guy said that to me and Joe Claire was like, shit, you was hot in them shoes. Yo, the kidnappers were all talking about, careful, she get away. Who's the kind of kidnapper at where they all talk to each other like, yeah, this one is. Serious question though. How did you get kidnapped? I was kidnapped by family members. So the first time my mother kidnapped me from my dad, which is the number one. We call that love. Yeah, well, she, you know, she changed my name. He didn't see me. He found me on Facebook. Wow. My dad had been looking for me my whole life and my mom was young. She was like 16 years old. He cheated on her. She took me, moved me out of the country, changed my name. Moved you out of the country? Yeah, we lived in a Dominican Republic and I moved back here and he wasn't a citizen. So he kept getting deported, which is also I talk about. So I didn't grow up with him. And it was very painful. I was very resentful. My mother took my father away from me because he cheated on her. And a lot of women do that. And you cannot hold your kids as ransom. You know, like you can't do that to the father of your children. You have to keep the mother, the man-woman relationship separate from the kid relationship. It's very damaging. Can we just... I was little. I was like two, three years old. Can I ask a question? Just a question here. Okay, because if you can't change your situation, you can change your perception. Absolutely. And like that whole story is a testament to a mother's love, man. Absolutely. Like your mother loves you. Like as a white, like our parents don't really love us that much. I don't know if you know about that. But like my mom does not love me enough to steal me from my dad. Hundred percent. I don't think the mother had anything. I don't think that was love. I mean, I'm sure she loved you, but I think it was more so fuck him. Yeah, but think about it. Like, Latinos love their fucking kids so much. That's a punishment. Like most people, if one parent took the kid away from the other parent, the other parent would be like, so weekends or what, like... Yeah, I got it. Like I was gonna leave, but you're gonna leave first. Thank you. All right. You know what I mean? Like that was a punishment to your dad and your dad loved you so much. They don't Facebook. He's looking and trying to find his dog. Yeah, he cries every time he talks to me. But you know the thing was that... Gotta love Latinos, man. My mom was really young. Her perception of him was, my dad is older. I called him the pedophile for like the first few years that we connected. Holy shit. Because my mom was like 16 and he was like 26, 27. Right. He wasn't the pedophile. He was a pedophile. Are you sure you were in Dominican Republic, not Little St. James? I don't know what she said. Epstein humor? Okay. I know what I'm talking about. You got it. Oh, okay. I forgot the name of the aisle. That's okay. I've been paying attention. Not at all. Not at all. I think that she thought that he was not good for me, you know? Cause she was like, I'm a kid. Like I'ma get her away from him. But she was being vindictive. And it was, you know, it was tough. Then my grandmother kidnapped me from her. What? On dad's side or mom's side? Her mom. The next guy she was with was a killer. He was like on the FBI's most wanted list for murder. So my mom, we were on the run with him. Like we got raided by the SWAT. It was all this craziness. Really? Yeah. So we were in New York. We were in the Bronx and my grandmother came and she stole me when my mom was out. I was with the babysitter. She put a knife to the babysitter's neck. She took me and she cut all my hair off. She changed my clothes, put me on a plane, took me to Florida. That was love. Saved you. And then my mom came home because I believe my grandmother dropped a dime on the guy and he got arrested and went to prison and then my mom came home. What kind of, what kind of murder though? When you say he was murdering people, was it like drug related murders or just? It was, it was a senseless murder. He was in a bar. He got into an argument with the guy. The guy pulled the gun out on him. He took the gun and instead of leaving, he shot the guy with the gun to prove he was bad, you know, and then. Hey, that happens. Yeah. You pull a gun on somebody and you lose. Yeah. You're supposed to be dead. Absolutely. Like if you got the gun and the person that doesn't have the gun ends up killing you. Yeah. But he ran. Yeah. So he could have probably fought self-defense with you at night. And it was in Florida. But it was, you know. Oh, he definitely would have won in Florida. Staying your ground forever. Yeah. But he ran and then the police were, you know, trying to find them. There were shootouts. It was all kinds of craziness. And so, yeah, my grandmother's standing right. How do you have a relationship with your parents now? Like how do you, you know, I guess build a bond with your father and your mother? Like, how do you? That bond is strong, bro. So walking around being a bitter bitch will not get you anything but cancer. It will eat you from the inside out. Like we always, we get so self-righteous. And we get, I can't believe you did. Then look back at all the shit you did in your life. My mom had me when she was a teenager and she was coping circumstances that I would never know how to cope with with the things that happened to her. She did the best that she could. And I've had more great years with her than bad ones. And I'd be remiss if I walked around penalizing my mother for the mistakes that she made. Can I ask you a question? Why is it that Latin women always believe a man, the Latin man will be faithful? Like why are you so surprised? Black men don't cheat. Yes, Latino men. Latino men turn a volume down on that shit when that song comes up. Why don't you? Cause they got that... Right out. You're about to win the whole too many... You're about to have a son of mine. They don't? So love me, you're about to jump on this. Oh, you're about to have a mom in two languages. Afro-Latino is like, I like that other Duval song, Leaving my Best Life. But, uh, but real talk, it's like it is almost comical, the amount of, uh, adultery in Latino culture, right? It's comical. It's, it's accepted like people and, and a lot of Latinos are going to get mad at me and say that's not true. But the reality of it is, is that it's, it's accepted in our culture. You get used to it. You turn a blind eye. Mommy's at home cooking. We don't know where poppy is my, when I would, I remember being, uh, my step father and I, we were having dinner, I used to have dinner with him every night. He told me, he said, do not concern yourself with the business of men. Men are not naturally monogamous. He's like, if a man is monogamous with you, that means he's trying his best and he's fighting his nature. And I remember saying, well, does that mean you cheat? And then he was like, eat your food and shut the fuck up. That's right. Nobody told you. Didn't I just tell you don't concern yourself? By the way, I don't believe that. I used to believe that. And you know what? That thought that you can't be monogamous is what makes you not be monogamous. But when you picked an easy time, you're 40, it doesn't matter, I mean, you ain't monogamous at 24. It doesn't matter. You ain't about semantics. You've got three sperm in your balls. You could be faithful. It's easy. I'll be, you know, I'll be on that sea moss and that male balance. That sea moss and that male balance have you like this at all times. One time for Dr. Savie. One time for Dr. Savie. I got some sea moss ice cubes in my freezer. Went real love ice cubes. Really? Yeah, I made them. Wow. I ordered it. I ordered it. It came. I cleaned it. I blended it. And I put them in there. What do they do for women? You just put them. They help your hair grow. It helps your hair grow. It's good for your skin. Also for the libido. Your digestion. Sea moss is amazing. I think sea moss is amazing. I just feel like, honestly, I've never felt better being faithful. I think that that's a matter of wholeness and being secure. Very much so. I think we, I'm sorry. No, if you need a bunch of motherfuckers to make you feel like. I watched, I used to open for Corey. So I watched Corey's episode. Corey Hogan. He talks about, we always argue about this. It actually manifests itself on stage when I work with him. Cause he's like, look at that. Goofy ass, dude. You know, the whole, you think a dude is going to be faithful. And he's like, and it's like Corey. The first thing I said to Corey when we got into an argument was, who hurt you? Word. Right? Who did it? Like, who hurt you? But thank God, cause I'm joke slap. Slap. Slap. We need that. Whoever heard him, God bless. Yeah, because that dude is funny. He's the voice of a lot of men. Yeah. And, you know, and then women get celebrated for accepting that. Oh, my girl cool with that. She know that that's who I am. And they're like, yeah, she a, that's a ride or die bitch. With the one whose ovaries are falling out. Cause the bitch got syphilis. That's the thing that pisses me off. You know, it's like, she's a ride or die bitch. She all the way to, she dies from one of the fucking STDs you gave. You can't get STDs from cheating though. What are you talking about? She didn't know that. That's for real. Yeah. Cheating, you don't get STDs. You get that from, yeah. I agree with you though. I feel like, you know, it's just insecurity. I didn't think about it yet. You know what I'm saying? Like guys cheat just to boost their motherfucking ego. Yes. Like that's it. Cause all I'm, I'm really just fucking you to tell my boys. And so my boys can give me a pat on the back and be like, why are you hit that? Exactly. Just give it to myself. Don't do nothing for me. That's why shadow banding someone is bad for the relationship. Why? Cause I can't get these likes. I'm gonna have to go get this pussy. That's why you never block people. I'm not sucking for her to fucking have me broken up. But that's why you never block somebody that you either was fucking and now you want to stun on. You don't block them. You let them see you motherfucking shining, bruh. Cause when you block them, they get angry. And then they got the homies putting wax shit on your wife's page. Did you start with them Kevin Durant accounts and be looking at you from the other side? Yes. Yes. So did you do anything to like, I guess get refocused like you as a human being after going through all of that type of stuff. Like when did you become whole? Have you become whole? I'm still working on it. This is a day and age of self righteousness. Like I love people are always really good at pointing out what everybody does wrong as people of color. We always talking about racist people. We've been taught so much shit within ourselves. Like I remember like my grandmother was like, she didn't fuck with white people with she cause she got holes in the civil rights movement. And she'd be like, you know, in Spanish, you know, they smell like dogs and you stay away from them. Or I remember like being told that stuff about Asian people like so I just pride myself in just being a work in progress as opposed to sitting around as a comedian. I can't afford to be self righteous cause they're going to come for me at any day. I know I've said so. It's just not funny. Like self righteous humor is not funny. And that's what I said about conservatives cause we get in when I do these panels with conservative comics, they're not funny. Like they're so self righteous that they forget to be funny. And it's like, I go to therapy. Me too. I've been in therapy and you know, my family would be like, you don't need therapy. That's for crazy people. I'm like, bitch, we are the crazy people. Like what are you talking about? I worked really, I left the church cause I grew up seven day Adventist. And it's a lot of days. It's very, very similar to Jews. You know, they go, they keep the Sabbath. They turn the lights off on Friday. I know you think I'm Jewish, but I'm not put. Okay. Well, you said you were earlier. No, I didn't. We were just talking about Jewish things. Oh, you were talking about, you can't be Jewish. You were talking bad about them. Whoa. He's not allowed to self hate. No. You better push back. You better push back on that one. I'm trans-Jewish. You don't have to let that one hang on there. What? Talk about who? That never happened. I want to make it. Well, I got to go pee. You want to pay some bills? Yes, we got to pay some bills. Okay, guys, this product is brought to you by The Temple of Israel. The, no. The greatest people on the face of the universe. No. In all seriousness, guys, cigarettes are simple and thanks to My Blue, vaping can be too. 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They kept it. They kept it. So they pronounce their season Z's as a th. Right. Right. So like instead of zebra, febra. Right. But then they make fun of us because we don't do it. So we speak the inferior Spanish. Right. Because we don't speak. Because you don't have a speech impediment. But how dope was it back in the day when you were king? Like you spoke weird and then you're like, that's how we all speak. That's what it is now. If he had Tourette's. That's Italian. That was. Fuck you. Stupid motherfucker. That's perfect. Real talk. It is a fascinating story. Right. And like, Spanish is super interesting that way. Like how certain things just don't exist in Latino culture. Like the, like the vosotros. Like you guys don't, you guys use Usteres, right? Usteres. Yeah. It's very, it's very proper. No, no. Usteres is proper. vosotros is the two, but for plural. Yeah. No, no. But it's like an unused, like it's like an unused tense. In Spain, right? When I was learning Spanish, if I was speaking to you guys, I'd be like, vosotros estáis. Right. But here I'd be like, Usteres están. Right. But, but in Spain, I would only use Usteres if it was like, you know, you guys were adults or older people. Usteres. Usteres. Yeah. Like for four years, like through high school. Yeah. And as our teacher pretty much told us, like, two is formal, Usteres is, I mean, a two is informal, Usteres is formal. Right. And for vosotros, you're never going to use. I don't know why they bothered to teach us. Yeah. Yeah. It's like an extra chapter of the text. For no reason. It's like, it's already confusing. No, she did that shit out the first day. Like, we're not even going to, don't even worry about that. Like, we're not going to. It's funny, because some people say boss and it's only from a certain regions of Columbia. Like if you're from Cali. Yeah. They use the boss. And I think, um, Argentine people too. Yeah, they do. Well, they, they speak very Spanish. They swear they're Europeans. You can't tell Argentine person. They all tell you about their Italian blood. Oh, this is the funniest shit. Dude, Latin is so funny, man. They, they will tell you exactly the fucking white place their families from. Yes. They got no clue with a native. Pure Castilian blood. Yes. It's a small neighborhood outside of Barcelona. And they're like, yeah, but why are you brown? Some Indian or something. I don't know where that from, but yeah. They're indigenous people. Like that's an insult to some of them. Indio, right? It's really like, we got it bad too. Like it's the colorism and the self-hate is unbelievable. But that's what was so funny to me when the Afro-Latino things started popping. And I was like, what all of a sudden? Mm-hmm. Like did, did nobody tell Sammy Sosa? Oh, well he's, that's the self-hate king. But all of a sudden Laz Alonzo started speaking Spanish. Who's that? Who's that? The actor? He's an actor. He was in the Fast and the Furious. Yeah. Which one was he? Um... Yeah, he was in... Was he his, he was his best man? No. He was his best man. No. Laz Alonzo was in... Oh, he just did the, then he just moved through the movie with Taraji. The green muscle car and that's the first. Yeah. Like that killed Letty. Oh, I don't know. Oh, you're right. But he was on BET. He was, um... He's on The Boys. The teen thing. Oh, on Amazon. I haven't seen it. Yes, that's the solution. Okay, so Bossip, right? Yeah. Let me ask you a question. Right now we live in the epitome of the click culture, the clickbait culture. Right. Right? So, and don't get me wrong, I'm put, I put out videos on YouTube and I know the difference of a catchy YouTube title and a catchy thumbnail and a boring YouTube title and a boring thumb and the difference is literally millions of views. Absolutely. Now, I refuse to clickbait, but I understand the title has to be sexy enough. First of all, let's define clickbait. Yes. That word turned into just some shit that people say when they see a headline that has grabbed their attention and they feel bad for grabbing their attention or something. I consider clickbait something that isn't accurate. In other words... That's what it's supposed to. Standard definition. This is the worst version as it is. Does Brad Pitt have AIDS? Right. And then the article starts, turns out Brad Pitt doesn't have AIDS. Right. Yeah. Right? So like, do you feel, now that you're operating in, in this world, do you feel like, are you in control of the headline and when you're creating the headline and you know how important that is to get people to read, is there part of you that's like, should I embellish a little bit? Should I mislead in order to get these clicks? Where do you draw the line with that? I've never felt the need to embellish to the point of misleading or lying or putting some kind of fact in there that isn't true just to, just to get people to click. The whole thing with Bossip is that we have had, we write unique headlines that embellish but not, we embellish for like performance sake for effect vocabulary words, alliteration and like shit like that. Was it Bossip the stuff that like was getting all these retweets because the, they were like almost poetic? Yeah, yeah, we write bars. That's how we get down. So it's not about lies and like trying to come up with some. It was like you were reading the person in the, in the Twitter title. Yeah, yeah. If we have to flame you, we're going to flame you in poetic ways and ways that rhyme and it's going to be like some, some, some like hood Dr. Su shit where we, Yeah, you're going to get this work but it's also going to be to the point of if you fucked up, you said some dumb shit. That's how you ended up here. Now, when you're, when you're operating with a media company, is there a narrative that the media company likes to keep? That's part one of the question. Then there's a part two that's followed up. You mean, I can agenda? Yes. No. Well, not on our end. Maybe other sites. You could write whatever article and have whatever opinion about whatever you want and there wouldn't be an editor who's like, Hey, listen, this is boss up. We like to think this way. Yeah. No. The only thing that will, there'll be people that we won't talk about because we're on by radio one now. So we got, we got, they did a merger like two years ago. Before that, we were just a mom and pop shop. We were doing whatever we wanted to, but it was a big mom and pop shop. Popping. Yeah. Yeah. And they did the merger with radio one. So now the thing is, if we have people on the radio one side that have been banned from the station, let's say, if somebody gets banned from the radio station, all radio one stations, we can't talk about that person on boss up because now we're part of that regime. So we won't even mention, we won't even do stories where there's a problem. Great. But there's not a political narrative. There's not a political narrative. Like how Nikki is talking about like there's this agenda to bring me down and Nikki hate train. Like there's no, on our side, there's no Nikki hate train. So if you do something crazy or say something crazy, or you just generally look and however you look doing what you're doing, we're going to talk about it. But there's no like, we don't have a grudge against anybody. I don't think anybody on staff cares enough to have a grudge. Like you're trying to write jokes and put up these stories, get these clicks, get paid, and then go home. Like I don't use my real brain to do this. You know what I'm saying? Like my actual real brain, I don't use that for Kim Kardashian. Right. Fucking reality star who's sucking off somebody in the alleyway. Like I don't care. I just, I look at it like comedy writing or like late night writing. Right. Like there's a subject. Somebody needs a monologue. We're going to give you these little lines and we're going to go about our business. But it's not, there's no passion behind it. Right. To me it's just, can I be funny? Can I be witty? So the narrative of the objective is humor. Humor. That's it. For us it's about humor. If you're going to talk about just be fucking funny. That's it. Don't be too crazy political. Or like a more salacious angle. Or like who did this? Oh we saw somebody. Now obviously if something credible comes across our desk and we can like at least vouch for it in some kind of way. You'll throw it out there. We'll put it out there. Right. But that's not really our angle. I'm just, I'm just curious as these like, as these blogs that like you said are mom and pop shops as they've kind of replaced like traditional media. How old are you? I'm 38. So you're 38. 41. 41. We grew up with traditional media. CNN, Fox news, you know like the fucking regular late night news show that was on your local news. And in our lifetime we've seen news completely shift to Twitter accounts. It's opinion based. People will say, so such and such died. And they'll be like, well let me go to TMZ and they won't see it. And we'll see it. It actually happened that way. Like even Michael Jackson. Because remember, this Hilton reported that Michael Jackson died when he hadn't died. And they creamed them. They're going to get mad. They creamed them. But it's like TMZ is the reputable source. Nobody says I'm going to go to ABC to see it. Never. No, it's TMZ now. Never. And so it's like, so now there's a time where anytime you have influence in media or influence in the world, right? You have a responsibility and that responsibility is usually dictated on like what you believe is right or wrong. Right. The people at Fox believe they're right. They truly believe that's the best case scenario for the country. The people at CNN and MSc, they also believe that. Right. They're not going, I'm a diabolical mastermind. They truly, both of them. Well, Roger Ailes was a diabolical mastermind. Sorry. Maybe some of the other people on Fox, individuals maybe. The pawns. The pawns. The pawns are drinking the Kool-Aid. Tucker Carlson really believes that bullshit he be saying. Yeah. All of them have drank the Kool-Aid. Yeah. The puppet masters, they know. They know exactly what it's doing. There's a higher game. They're playing. They're not some independent thinkers there like Shep Crawford is. He's the only one of them. Yo, yo. I'm not knocking either one. I'm not knocking either one. I'm not knocking either one. I guess a lot of times what happens is like a certain person at that network doesn't believe in everything that the network posts, but that network aligns more to their beliefs than the other side. Similar to when we vote. Like none of us believe every single thing. A main Kelly pops over to NBC and it was like, yeah, this is reasonable. So the black face shit. Because nobody believed that shit like, we know who you are. Right. Like we thought, right? But now you're going to see a thing happen where when like a boss or when these blogs get enough influence in the space, they're going to start going, well, shit. Well, how do we feel about hot bun topic? Trans. How do we feel about this? How do we feel about abortion? How do we feel about these things? And what inevitably happens is you start taking a fucking stance in a narrative forms organically. Yes. Like it's going to happen in our life. You're going to be a boss and they're going to be like, well, what do you think you should do about immigration? You're like, shit. I just got some jokes about you. Can I get some oranges? Yeah. Well, I say this to that standpoint, we make sure that because we're not out to like be that salacious or to even like go toward the offensive part of journalism, like we're going to be now times have changed, right? So we're conditioned to be non-offensive toward LGBT communities. Not that we would be anyway, but I'm saying that's like the social standard now, is that we don't say certain things. We don't do certain things. We allow people to, if you're trans, if you're whatever. So we're not going to make those jokes. We might make jokes about something that XYZ person did, but it's not going to be jokes. We're not going to do. You don't care about the community. You care about the action. Excuse me, a single action. In other words, like you don't care to make statements about communities. You care to talk about specific behavior that a person, this guy was caught on the highway mooting somebody. Whatever it is. Here's the thing about that. Here's the thing about that. We're not doing like, even with the Caitlyn Jenner thing, like yeah, there was a million jokes you could make about Caitlyn Jenner that people made when she finally came out as Caitlyn Jenner. But for the most part, we just played it straight. Now we might find ways to like, if we can find a creative way to poke at Bruce or poke at the former Bruce or whatever it is, then that's cool. We might do that, but it's not. The artist formerly known as Bruce. By the way, Bruce is a good example. And the reason Caitlyn is not a good example is because nobody cares. You can clown Caitlyn all day and nobody will get offended. Nobody cares now. Because they don't really like the Kardashian Jenner clan. But before she came out as Trump heavy, I think they care a little bit. Boom, that part of it too. Now when you go out as Trump, now you lose all like empathy. You don't really get empathy no more. And she's homophobic, ain't she? Exactly. She's a conservative. That's not a good example. She doesn't believe in gay. I don't know what y'all talking about, but that's not a good example. I did a joke about her on... No, but listen, I did a joke about her on the Young Turks and I said that Kris Jenner is a pimp. Like that we keep demonizing all of them. And I said, she's made vagina so lucrative in that household. She made Bruce Jenner want to go get one. And all these trans people started sending me messages saying, this is the language that gets trans people killed. They love to jump to that. But it's always like when you say, you retweet something ignorant. They come for you. But then they'll go support their local police department. You know what I mean? The argument is this is like... Hold on, what is the conversation before I get in trouble? What are we talking about? We're talking about gossip and headlines and the things that we write and whether there's agendas and political agendas and writing certain stories and taking angles on certain things. We're talking about how media has shifted, right? Like the use of these big media companies, CNN, Fox News, all that, and they have agendas. And now you have blogs that have gained massive influence in the new space. And I'm asking and curious if they're going to start having an agenda organically because you... They've been having an agenda. They're agendas. An outside source has a hot take on gossip. They've been having agendas. Their agenda is traffic. And that's when we start this conversation, right? Agendas is traffic. But often it's easier to get traffic if you know a direction which cars are going, right? Clickbait headlines are at what cost. And the reason I think clickbait headlines are so dangerous because nobody actually reads the article. You just believe... Yes. What you believe they have. Like I'm getting a sense of a bunch of stuff now from the Jay-Z, Roger Goodell press conference. Right. And I was there. And what are they saying? So I know these headlines are like... Charlemagne comes out as gay. No, I would never do that there. Yo, that's what you should have done. You take a knee and start sucking Roger Goodell's dick. We don't do that with them. Like what? We don't do that with Jay-Z. This is how you take a kneecap. Oh, wow. You went there for this. Cap gon' beat you up. He's been training. Five days a week. But I was there. So it's just like I know what the clickbait headlines from that press conference is. Like I'm like, that's not what happened. Right. Like out of context. Like he didn't say it. But whatever. Bro, that's why I don't tweet or Instagram anything about politics. Because it's so easy to get taken out of context. The only time that I'll talk about anything... If it's not a joke. Obviously I post all my jokes and shit on there. But that's curated material. So you know there's a purpose for it. But you know what? Remember back in the day when we would have political discussions on Twitter? Oh, yes. Like you going back and forth. And one of your things back and forth could be crazy. If you don't know what's on the other end of that. Boom. But on a podcast, you could hear this whole conversation. Yeah, I agree with you. I do talk about political stuff. Because a lot of my humor is based on that. But it's just politics from my point of view. But that's stand-up. You should. I'm talking on Twitter though. Yeah, I do it on Twitter. I'm not a political expert. I'm a stand-up comedian. So don't be judging me to AOC. No, that's different. But you do go on the Young Turks though. So when you're on the Young Turks, they look at you as a political opponent. So they kind of do look at you as a political expert. But I'm still very clear about that. I'm speaking about things from my point of view. This is not me saying this is the way... This is how the world is. This is the law. This is according to these statistics. I'm like from the way I see it. And I'm very clear about that. So that's why I don't let people bully me. And I don't apologize. I'm not apologizing. If I hurt your feelings, then go to therapy like I do. Because I'm not here... This is my point of view. I'm not an expert. I'm a stand-up comedian. I have a point of view about issues. And I want to talk about it. Why do we care about people's feelings? I think those are the best feelings. No, but I think those are the best POVs. The best POVs to me are from the people who aren't the experts. You know, you watch Fox all day. You watch MSNBC all day CNN all day. Those are the people who get paid to have that POV. What about the regular everyday person who's going through it, who's been through it? I want to know what they think about this situation. And that's why I feel like people respond to me on the Young Turks. Because I was homeless. This happened to me. This is happening to me. According to me, the way I see it, immigration is this, this, this. I don't care about your statistics. I will talk about the things that I talk about because I think that you listen to the view. There's a bunch of bitches with red bottoms on and Birkin bags. Tell them all about this. Who ain't got that? Yeah, but you know what I mean though. Whoopie Soles might be red. She's sort of. I have her feet out. I have her feet out. She's got her whole foot out probably underneath that there. Her feet look like a bomber shoe. But the thing is they get on. And I know, you know, like when I say, when I speak and just because I'm, that's how I talk. But I see them and then you got Megan McCain. You got these women that make these amazing salaries, telling people who don't have their light bill money, people who work at towel mills, while they got their dog waiting in the car that has its own nanny. This is how life is. This is what it should be all over the, and people are tired of that. And they're disconnected and I agree with you. And not only that, they, they didn't, by the way, I don't know their backgrounds. I don't want to go ahead and say this, but some people just didn't live it. Oh yeah. If you lived it, if you was, you're on a single wide trail in monks corner, South Carolina. When you have that kind of poverty for, for, for, for that long, or you grew up in a rural area or you go to jail, whatever it is, those experiences don't leave you at all. I'm going to be in the hood this weekend. I'm going to be Saturday. I'm doing a, a fish fry at monks corner recreational complex in monks corner, South Carolina. I'm doing a big-ass fish fry backpack giveaway. Same thing I do every year. Like I'm with my, I talk to my people. I'm around my people. So you're out there giving them backpacks and diabetes. Hey man. It's the South baby. This is a man of the people. It's the South baby. What I'm going to do is it's a fish fry. Fried fish, fried shrimp, French fries. That's going to be a salad. I'll give a little fried fry. Okay. A lot of water. Plenty water. Plenty water and a little side shot. You know what? If you go down there with some kale, they will bust you in the hair. Exactly. It was a little kale. That just smells bad. They be like, kale stinks. So 12 to 4 Saturday meeting monks corner recreational complex in monks corner, South Carolina. Okay. But to your point about, to your point about news and like the dependence and people that's paid professionally to do this, I feel like a lot of, a big part of the mainstream media has shifted to more opinion than actual news. Yes. And a lot of that is because people do, I think they know that people feel disconnected from some of these talking heads that just seem haughty and above them and more, you know, acting in more intelligent or grandstanding to your earlier point in the South. Right. So I feel like a lot of it just moves to opinions and not information. Listen, Bossip ripped Tommy Lahren to shreds one time. Oh, we got like a top five. Oh, is that the one I'm referring to? It was like a viral tweet off the headline. Yeah, we have a few. It was hilarious. We have a few Tommy Lahren headlines. Yeah. Five, six, seven, 8,000 retweets. And from a news organization, from an individual is one thing where you might have 50, 60, but for most news organizations, you get 8,000, 5,000 retweets. Something is going crazy. I know that's your friend. Who? No, she's not no more. I don't know why people keep saying that. She knows that's why they going to keep saying that. It's a coincidence she's also going to be amongst corner this weekend. Oh, yeah, right. Getting a drink. I mean a person one time. He's got my friend. That's all it takes. That's it. You're right. It's the same way with dating. If you kicking, Carmelo was on a boat with that lady. Who knows if that was that lady? That's right. You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying? Friendly little boat ride. Friendly little boat ride. Friendly little fucking boat ride. I'm cheating on my wife. I'm not even buying nothing. I'm not even buying nothing. Wait a minute. Who bought her the cupcakes though? Who? That was you? No, that was Chef. That was Chef. He was doing too much. I don't even talk to her no more. You don't? I haven't talked to her in years. I've talked to her one time. I have a call right now. Let's give her a call. I don't know. I've never had her number. She's not going to give him her number. But isn't she like a flop? Like didn't the album come out? Yeah, but is she popular? I don't see no more Tommy Lawrence viral content going up. You know Fox is like having a Vegas residency. She's packed everything. You know what I'm saying? She's over there packed house every night. She's on. She's killing. She's killing. We may not fuck with her. But being on Fox is like being a conservative. Like having a Vegas residency for a conservative. It just seemed like she used to be on my timeline on a regular for saying something, doing something. The new time. Candace took her away. Yeah. Candace always took her away. Well, because Candace is safer. No, she's not. No, it's a safer bet for conservatives. Because with Tommy, you go, you're racist. But Candace is essentially, remember that guy Milo? Yeah. Milo was the perfect foil, whatever the fuck his name was. It was the perfect foil for the liberal movement, or whatever it is, because the liberal movement a lot of people could say is based on a victim hierarchy. Right? So if you haven't experienced this, don't talk on it. Right. So Milo is out there as a conservative. A young white gay guy. A young white gay guy. Gay? Yeah. Jewish? Are you Jewish too? Only married to a black guy? Like he checked every... I think he was claiming every... Yeah, I think he was doing that on purpose just to try to avoid heat. Of course, but he was the foil, right? So you couldn't say anything about his opinions on LGBTQ because he was it. You couldn't say his opinions about race because his husband is black or whatever. Yeah. And you couldn't say his opinion about gay because he's gay. They also got him the fuck out of here though. On... Eventually. He was the epitome of self-hate though. You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying. You can't drag him from the outside. You drag him from the people those communities can drag in. You know what I say? What that is, that's like when you say self-hate, it's like that insecurity. You got to ask yourself why you want these people's validation so much. And sometimes the people that have bullied you the most, the people who have made you feel the most inferior, sometimes their validation is more valuable than your own. You want to change their mind. That's why so many people love Donald Trump. Ooh, go on that. Talk to me. Because they are trying to identify with upward mobility. I can see that. They see him as being a self-made man. I can see that. That's the argument. They don't know economics. They don't really know that he is not the example of a good businessman. Somebody gives you a million dollars and you go bankrupt. They don't. But he is a white man in America that people see. You saw him on The Apprentice. He's not an intellectual elitist. So there you can meet with him. You can connect with him on this level because he's not a member of Mensa. He says dumb shit all the time. I say dumb shit all the time. He's self-made. I'm self-made. Same reason we love rappers. Same reason you black and you love a rapper from the hood. You're like, oh, that's me. If he can make all that money, it's like damn shocking. Absolutely. He's the Cardi B of white people. He is. He's the Cardi B. Yeah. Dude. That's an American dream story. You know what? That's fucking, that is poignant. Because Cardi is a dart. Whenever she said something, it didn't matter if the grammar was right. It didn't matter if the spell was right. But it hits you right to your fucking chest. Whatever the fuck it was. And when Trump speaks, it hits. It either pisses you off or makes you happy. But that shit sticks. And there are certain politicians, they're up there fucking blabbering forever about one point. Yo, I say this up. It's like, when I started doing radio, the thing that has always, you know, I guess made me stand out is I don't know how to do radio. To being that I don't know how to do radio, I just go up there and beat me. Donald Trump goes and beats him. So the language of politics is dead. And they haven't realized that shit. You have a profound skill that I don't even know if you realize. That you get from A to B quicker than anybody. Because I don't know how to get around that shit. Maybe it isn't, but A to B, few people go as fat. Meaning a lot of people will skirt around or have a direction or try to get there. A to B. You know why? Two reasons. People always want to try to sound smarter than they fucking are. Yes. They want to spend all this time. Fuck all that. And second, I just think people would be scared. Well, plus, let's be clear. A to B is the politician's worst nightmare. Facts. Because you have to be honest. A to B is not the game. That's right. Because you can't protect yourself. There's no protection. There's no plausible deniability. There's no none of that. You know, it's good when they go to A to B, but they don't do it. And when they don't try to go to A to B, they fuck up Joe Biden. Yeah. If Joe Biden would just be who the fuck he is and just go from A to B instead of using these political talks. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? When he's political talking points and shit, he wouldn't even make these gags. Yeah. He's also trying to be the Donald Trump of the left. What he is! Burney is the Donald Trump of the left. No, I've said that the same thing. Burney is, I think Joe tries to be, when he says things like, when he says audacious stuff, like he said, you know- Poor kids are just as good as my kids. He's trying to say what white people are thinking, but can't say. He wants to be everything to everybody. I'll be honest Joe Biden's remarks was poor kids and just as bright and just as talented as white kids, right? Yeah All right, and all the other stuff about what you want when he He's like trying to push the line for the liberals and the liberals are like no Why was everybody so mad about this line because it was it's it's it's what do you call it? It's it's tone deaf and it is it comes when is it people said it was racist I felt that it was elitist. It's like you saying that poor kids are just as bright But we all know that poor kids do not have the same resources They can't go as far a lot of times those of us that get out is because we're the exception Somebody did something exceptional to get us out of there because that's not the standard So when you're saying it's just condescending because it's just skipping over all this shit and all the issues that poor kids have by saying They're just as smart, but let's just put they smart asses in the fact If I was his campaign staff, that's what I would be mad at because you got the black people already Joe you're fucking it up That's the most offensive to white people the reason the reason why we're fence Reason why we're fentanyl is because we know the intent of what he meant to say right in his brain He was talking about us. It's right. He's like poor people are not white and rich people are white now Like you said right now that's gonna piss me off as a poor white and I decide this election motherfucker telling me Okay, and I've been really quick after I Needed I'm from most corner stock Atlanta when I do that fish fry this weekend. It's gonna be mad white people out there All white people from rural area They're gonna be coming free backpacks and coming to get that free food and do you know how humbling that is food for us whites? Depending on what Trump does for the rest of the week Fish You gotta do it better than he did it in Puerto Rico. He's rich. It's terrible. He's shoot that shit like Lonzo ball Please go live when you do you really think Sanders is the Trump? Yes, I think and I thought the last election. He probably had the better shot because he stole it That's why it's because I think I should but it was the matrix dude write the ecosystem always balances itself, right? So it's like regardless of what your politics are you could say Neo is Bernie and then you could say agent Smith or whatever the character is was Trump But they both were bubbling up and there were the extreme versions of both sides. It's a to be like you said Hey, Bernie, how do you feel about a health care? We need it? Yeah, the price is gonna be too high. Yeah Why are you yelling cuz we need a yell, yeah, right and you're drawn to him no matter what he's like He's real. Oh, he's not talking in this That bullshit me I went to men saw I did you know how many people get tired of that That's why I do well on the young Turks because I'm sitting next to these people who are trying That's what they do for a living and then I'm like yeah, no, that's not what we want That's bullshit. You know like and I it's it's so It's gotten to the point where now there's an anti-intellectual movement in this country, right people are tired of it And they don't realize that it's not people be knowing stuff or being intelligent that you're against is them people Utilizing that to keep you down Don't manipulate me. Simple as that. Just fucking speak to me regular, dude Malcolm X used to say I speak in the vernacular so that a homeless man so that a man on the street can understand What I'm saying it's like that that that is the important Trump is our Malcolm X If Trump if if Bernie is the Trump of the left, why isn't he taking root the way Trump took he did no But he hasn't though because he did I tell you what he would be a head right now if he really had that I tell you why because liberals do not punch people in the face We sit around we think we always trying to push the high road Because we we perpetuate that intellectual movement. Oh, I don't do that kind of stuff. That's beneath me Meanwhile, the motherfuckers in the red hands will punch you in your motherfucking face knock you on the ground Drag you down the street and go high five each other and we're like, oh my god And it's so undignified to clarify just to clarify They took that from y'all. I'm independent, right? I but like It used to be the liberals that were out there slugging away doing a fuck with they wanted not caring What they're concerned is saying and the conservatives were like don't use foul language in your music We That should be NC 17. What are you doing? And then they realized oh shit the game is one in the trenches We're gonna go do the dogfighting and we're gonna see if they could live by their virtues that they talk so much about Fall after liberals went so far left that the only opinion they care about is the opinion of social media like the social I'm serious social media is the court of public opinion if they can't get people to talk about it on social media They won't even pursue it. Why you think they want to pursue impeachment if everybody was really raising hell on social media like They'd be on that shit. Yeah, that's all they wait for is the temperature to hit their right point so that they can say all right The public is behind if you want a little crazy A lot of people for not so to stay in office and that's how both sides of the argument And whether you want to admit that or not until when they said drain the swamp. I'm with it Drain the whole mother Everybody everybody in the country. This is the thing that nobody wants to admit Everybody in the country is gonna make more money if Trump is an office. That's what has happened I mean, I mean now for now right for now But like we're talking about like the liberal like elite liberals are making way look at your retirement You're making way more money With Trump in office and if a Democrat comes in and gets policy in that's gonna raise taxes or or do Do certain things that are gonna affect the way that your money is going you're gonna feel it so you're effectively voting to Give away some of your money. Now. This is how I vote. Yeah, but not everybody's willing to vote like that I understand what you're saying, but at the end of the day, I think what Trump brings to America isn't worth it And You got people, you know, if everybody's if this is civil war And by the way, it's not gonna be a civil war between races gonna be a civil war between Nothing showed that more than Epstein oh man like if you if you out here and you could affect the haves You could get got in a fucking jail cell just remember Which is that's this old school that stuff we hear about but you don't see see that shit in movies like everybody like I didn't gonna kill him like oh shit But like is it you are the minority What happens when you view yourself as a victim Hard to believe that He could have killed himself or is it just that because of the circumstances? It just feels more like so if he did kill himself Wait for it if he did kill himself They created a situation without Suicide watch right Hire time on suicide watch in this detention center. I think in the entire history of the detention center I think only one person had been able to do it During suicide watch, I think only one so it is quite coincidental. Yes that this happens when there are a lot of people that are potentially You know I'm sure somebody whispered in his ear You can do it or you can get raped beat up and then we can do it Right, where you hang yourself because I think I don't think they killed him He complained about being attacked in prison. They tried to kill himself two weeks ago Your sentence that you just said is exactly what happened. You said they tried to kill himself He tried to kill himself a couple weeks ago they had a more suicide watch than all of us Didn't they say he was assaulted and they found him in a fetal position I thought it was a suicide. No, there was another one. He said he was assaulted and they were trying to kill him in prison Yeah, he was this thing son Because they wanted to get him at a go home the first time I see prison people probably being pretty efficient at like He was gonna go either way Listen he got got he knew too much shit. There was a lot of I started looking into a little bit You know how much bullshit like I thought this guy was a legit hedge fund manager I thought he was I thought he had billions of dollars like they talked about like he's a billionaire, right? The guy managed this fund that only had one public investor a guy named Les Wexner, right? Who owns Victoria's Secret billionaire, right? One public investor, right? Les Wexner his boy also gave him a seventy million dollar apartment in Manhattan that just so happened to have a lot of digital recording equipment Hmm in the Apartment now now what could you measure that you're throwing parties where you have people of importance that are banging Teenage girls and it just so happens that you have secret recording equipment in this apartment that was given to you now to me That smells like You might want to have a little dirt on people in positions of power So that they could do things that you want them to do. I knew he was done when I saw his picture and he looked like Ron Perlman Cuz he was so like, you know and and you hearty like a hearty dude You know what I mean? And when you saw you could see it in his face that it was the clock started ticking Did you see this picture? What's that Donald Trump Larry Epstein and a goddamn 13 Jeffrey Jeffrey Epstein. What does it? Oh, man? Michael Rappaport post that Yes, it's a vodka. Yeah, that's his daughter. That's Trump's daughter. It is Shit I be talking about That's just do be But let's be clear that's a creepy it the way you be kissing on a vodka is creepy You know this dude is a pedophile The thing was interesting about Trump right like so and Clinton right so one of the girls that was apparently one of the sex slaves came out and She said in like the deposition or whatever the fuck it was is that a Trump Clinton and one other person were never involved in any of sexual acts I forget the other person that was made with that transcript. That's trans who said Epstein and Trump was arguing over who to who's to take a 13-year-old girl's virginity. Yeah, no, no the I'm just saying what the girl who was the sex slave said That's all I can say I forget the other person and even that is convenient if you ask me What do you mean that she said that oh just so happens that the one voice that we let are heard all these sex slaves But there's one and she just happens to say the ex-president Who's in bed with all these people that are being accused the current president who's in bed with all these people are being accused Didn't do anything, but all these other people. I mean So many setups I saw that I mean from the presidents to you know, and I'm not saying all this stuff is set up I'm just saying everything is so convenient the Kavanaugh stuff was so convenient You know I'm saying you see Cuomo and Don Lemon get ran up on this week Yeah, you know what I'm saying like oh that Don Lemon shit Oh son you didn't hear what they said he did he they said he put his hand down his pants Rubbed up on his pubes and balls. No, no, not just rubbed rubbed vigorously Vigorously got a little warm got it warmed up and then took his fingers on his mustache And put it on this other dude's mustache and goes you like dick or pussy Delta Delta Delta With the same but the same guy they say walked up to dawn in the bar and that's on the bottom of drinking So let me buy you a lemon drop That's a fact, that was really in the transfer That's what I sound like flutter. That's a bar That's a bar right there a lemon drop. Here's the thing though. Nobody cares. We don't care about mail Nobody gives a fuck like you said it was a Katy Perry Should I say Katy Perry walked up to the guy and pulled his pants and pulled him out And a bunch of guys came and looked down through the dick like Nobody can you know what if he took Katy Perry's hand and put it on his dick in that moment Yes, after goddamn Lou only Kevin Spacey though Kevin Spacey they got him they got him They said he was a they said he is a he was a serial Sexual assault but yeah, he would try to fuck dudes, but they were of age Not a kid was 18 look at the thing and they dropped the charges. He was a little boy. He was 18 look at the thing And drop the charges. He said he was just notorious Because you know it's a bunch of them running around Hollywood So when they when somebody goes down like that is like, who did he piss off and I wonder why only Katy Perry is the person that considered The person who should be in trouble because if you open up somebody's pants and then people come Yeah That sounds like you're victim blaming Was he dressed a certain way A pair of shorts Dare you we're stretchy shorts and most crimes Committed in the world and most of our social ills were not connected to dick and testosterone. I could see your argument I don't I don't I'm so sorry when I hear that When you need your luggage down from the overhead been what you say My luggage that we might have to argue at least Do not fuck Nobody I don't want to owe anybody shit because when you pay with pussy you cry at the end of the Guys everyone knows the risk of driving drunk, okay, you get in a car crash. 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Jay Z's rock nation reaching agreement with the NFL to lead the league's entertainment endeavors item I think that if we're gonna be mad about Jay Z On Twitter and Instagram about making a business move that could potentially help and employ a lot of people of color And it's going to be a movement to help us move forward If you are prepared to protest him on Twitter and Instagram and cancel him I would like to see your bank statements and to see where you're putting all the money into all of the people who are currently Making profit out of your oppression. That's what I what I have to say about it. Whoa. What do you think? I mean the thing I don't understand the for people who are mad From what I could tell cap wants to play football if an NFL football team call you tomorrow I just found out what John looks like You look like all the characters of Atlanta together Good No, as far as I know cap wants to play football again So I don't understand why is wrong for Jay Z if cap is the reason we are here We're all woke to this situation. He still wants to work with the NFL He's he got he took the payoff or whatever the settlement wasn't a payoff. It was two years back pay. Okay, right So if he wants to play football still what's the problem? We're all working with that is brilliant I don't understand. So if cap came back to the league all you do is buy capture is to be happy for Why are you doing this? So cap you're the only one that could work at NFL? Brilliant that's common sense. I didn't put it that way. Like I didn't realize That's the first thing I thought about when I saw our age. I was like, wait y'all are mad but cap Just put out the video a month a week Bagging to be back in the ball I don't get it. I see both sides. I am I See both sides Eric Reed is in the NFL. He protests against the NFL. Can you still isn't NFL? He protests against the NFL. I Really don't see the difference. I said they're working with they want to work with the NFL They work with the NFL Jays working with the NFL now. I think it's two different two different things. We're dealing with here One we're dealing with the fact that Colin Kaepernick's protests absolutely worked because he raised awareness for police brutality in a way that we haven't seen before That might have been one of the most effective protests that we've seen for sure in a long time in this country, right? So now that the awareness has been raised. What's the next step after awareness action? Yeah, so this is hove's way of Taking action. Yeah, simple as that like I If it can benefit, you know thousands of people hundreds of thousands of people through community initiatives I don't see what I don't see what the problem is now Do I want Colin Kaepernick to have a job? Absolutely, but I have loved Jay Zeta, you know, I Don't know negotiate something the way look I won't do this unless y'all get Colin back in the lead. That's stupid That's stupid. Listen, I'm playing the NFL if you're good enough There's a reason why Eric Reed is playing in the NFL There's we're like Kenny still to play in the NFL because they're good Tell me that Ryan Fitzpatrick is better than Colin Ryan Fitzpatrick is way better than Colin. No, no, no, like not even in the same league. He's a way better quarterback He can still ball though Colin Kaepernick He can still ball it is it is he could be a quarter. He could be a I'm not saying he should be starting What money did he say that he was worth a year? He said he won 20 million a year. I don't even know that's what he said He was I want to contract. He wanted we wanted 20 million a year now Do you guys think he's a 20 million a year? No, absolutely not so if you saying that's what it takes for me to play and You guys don't think so so definitely NFL teams are don't think so then that's why I've never heard him say a number I just I just know that he's always said they're denying me an opportunity now Roger Goodell said today Any team can sign Colin Kaepernick if they want to sign Colin Kaepernick. He said any team is free to sign him right now It's easy to say that he has No, he does Collusion if not it confirms collusion, okay, and that's the whole argument for cap was that that the teams were colluding Oh, no, none of y'all all y'all know y'all not gonna hire me y'all talked about this shit Yeah, here now NFL's fucking up because it's a good partnership with Jay-Z But the greatest PR move that they could absolutely pull is the sign Colin Kaepernick like this you would make everything And all of these activists these Twitter activists will go back to that day So and I think you got to infiltrate the systems because we want to make change. We're not making the change from the outside We need our people in there to turn flip the table over the NFL is not going to change if everybody in the NFL Thinks the same way we need somebody to get in there and infiltrate What is the plot of every superhero movie, right? We watch these superhero movies non-stopped What is cap? What is the we don't want to talk about cap talk about Captain America? Hydra infiltrates She'll right they infiltrate every aspect of culture They infiltrate every aspect of government and they flip it to bad things Inside out because that's the only way to make change here You have Jay-Z in a position not even at the bottom at the top and people are upset about it This is how change is my problem. I don't think I don't think nobody's wrong Like I don't think what Colin Kaepernick is doing is wrong I don't think what Jay-Z is doing is wrong on a personal note. Yes I want Colin Kaepernick to be in the league But I like the fact that Jay-Z is trying to change things right inside out And I like the fact that Colin Kaepernick is still out here making motherfuckers kneel I think throughout history you've had engages and you've had resistors and you need both Please watch King in the King in the wilderness is a document on Martin Luther King, Jr. It's a part of the documentary where Linda B Johnson is on the phone with Martin Luther King, Jr Martin Luther King, Jr flew to watch California because there was rides going on a watch and Lyndon is like What's going on out there and in Martin Luther King's explaining to him like look yes We did the civil rights act. I think we did the voting rights act But it requires more than that to stop this civil unrest because that's what he was making his play to get the poor people's campaign and the end To get the money But Linda the fact that Linda B Johnson was on the phone with him calling this guy to say what can we do? You need people that are in with those type of people that make real motherfucking legislation change happen People celebrating Colin Kaepernick for his Nike deal. Yeah, there are people on the other side of that argument saying do you think Nike doesn't support white? Yeah, they're making the NFL Shops and they have people were like Way to go Colin you such an activist you got a million from corporate America, which we know corporations run this country But at the same time those of us who support Colin Kaepernick were like he's infiltrating the system Well, that doesn't just apply to you. It applies to we we Jay-Z has a track record where we've seen in the last few years that his activism is real And that's my idea you hit it on the head. It comes from a good place But who has cash age y'all that's what I wanted Yeah, because it seems like anytime a black person does something that a group of black people don't agree with They get cancelled and crucified and they a sellout who has cash aid Well, the thing about it is that I think when it comes to these social change things It's the same fundamental the split that's been since Malcolm and Martin and with everybody else The difference between people that feel like you can change from the inside and the people who are vehemently against that And I feel like until that Schism comes together is gonna be this thing with everything like every black person every anyone who's trying to make a change If you try to go inside the system They're gonna be people saying you sold out and now you part of them your suit and the people on the ground and the people inside They're gonna say what the hell you're gonna do out on the street. That's all they did the model But we cannot we have to be realistic about Economics and what our condition is right now and the truth is that you cannot we cannot do it outside We've been asked to run a race where they've had a head start They tied our leg and our hand behind our back. They ran 17 laps and said now catch up There's no way to catch up other than Infiltrating the system and economically fit flipping the table over we have to stop Deluding ourselves that we're gonna march our way into equality and justice and equity. That's not gonna Who loves the marches? corporations fucking you over Love it They love it, you know what they hate is when everybody at that march puts all their money in the same set in the situation I hate when everybody in that much boycotts, whatever the fuck they don't Bank of America they pulled out of the the prisons, you know why because people made a statement With their money they pulled out of the bank and they said we gonna take our bank And they said we are no longer getting involved in this private prison. You're right. I did this is a capitalist country You gotta hit him where you can use your money to help or you can use your money to hurt And you can cry about you know what you know, we gotta do we gotta stop the problem is outrage is a currency, right? so like if you get popping off of outrage, right you're gonna continue to be outraged for the attention that you seek and when you have You have a situation where where somebody is doing something. Let's say progressive like what Jay-Z is doing You're not gonna get retweets by going Jay-Z's the man Right because that doesn't feed the outrage You got to find a way to shit on it because that's gonna get all the woke people to be like oh shit He's woken in I am I gotta be this woke you needed a they got people out They got they hire people to stir up the the trouble starters. They they hire those people You think you out there marching with them Tell pro. Yes, you think that you think you don't you think they don't have cyber coin tell pro fucking social made it easier They think of a great tweet about why Jay-Z's a sell out for doing this and then people start retweeting it And then they just back to fuck off Because we don't know what's gonna happen from this right because you know when I was in that press conference I was pushing the line on Roger Goodell, you know saying and pushing the line over like low How do you partner with this? How do you partner with the NFL? Have a social justice initiative when they are denying the person who actually Protested against social injustice a job, right? I'm asking like you're okay. Can can Colin get a job Roger Goodell Like I'm we pushing out you so you don't know what can happen from this It might be only that be like you know what it wouldn't make business sense to sign Collin capital I look at it from the Muhammad Ali perspective, right? You remember Ali when he um protested against Vietnam got his boxing license script to it So everybody pulled out from him But as the time went on people started to realize like you know the Vietnam War was fucked up It was some bullshit. It was bullshit. Damn. So, you know what? Yeah real estate is licensed He got his license reinstated while he had his fucking case still in appeal So eventually people will come to their senses. I think so well when it comes to hoes My real question is not that he talked with Roger good Because the way the thing was framed it was seems like Hoven Roger Goodell had a conversation. They worked out whatever they worked out. Let me talk. This is January Okay, cool but my thing about it I did you talk to Roger Goodell did you talk to the other 32 motherfuckers because Yeah, Roger Goodell works for them But if they they're still not any more with it than they were before Hove got there I don't have to talk to the owners to do it Initiative you'd need the teams to cooperate All I need is the commissioner. Yeah, so they're gonna be anti the whole thing or something happens They have an idea we want to do this the owners are gonna hate it and Gidell is gonna be like well I made a pact with Hove and we'll do it anyway I could be wrong, but I thought that the NFL can make their own initiatives I think the NFL makes the initiative and then if they don't work out the owners could vote Gidell out After his contract. Yeah, yeah, so he wants to do things that appease the owners because he wants to keep Owners don't want to smoke if the owners are thinking like this. They're like, okay Why don't we get this this because the owners are all old as shit They're like why don't we just get this young black man and his beautifully talented wife to do all the entertainment And then everybody will be they're not gonna be upset anymore about what's going on He's not performing. No, I know he's up for it But you said he would head the entertainment division of the NFL picking the he's picking the people look here Here's the thing. I there's a thing that I think is most important about what's happening here, right? Jay-Z is not getting paid billions of dollars for this. Okay, I Don't know what the contract is. I can't fathom that Jay-Z needs the money. You don't need the money So here's the thing Jay-Z is doing this knowing full well. It could hurt his image He's doing it because he thinks he can make a difference And if he's fucking enrages me by the way if he's wrong, that's on him Yeah, you know I like people that help when they don't have to and they only have anything to lose Yes, I like shout to Joe Rogan. Rogan does that shit all the time has people on All the time to have conversations that can only hurt Rogan It doesn't do anything for him. Yeah, he was he was even talking about the shadow band that I have you have to do that You can have Instagram fucking hit him up and be like, yo, why are you doing that kind of shit? You don't have to do any of this shit. Do you know what I mean? But it does it so it's like Jay-Z is out here doing something can only help black people It it can only hurt him and only help black people and he's still getting shit on Well specifically the thing with Jay-Z is that he's never been able to it's not his fault But I feel like within the culture. There's a cynicism toward Jay-Z that started a long time way before any of this shit Like the idea that even his most famous line is almost the thing they use against them like being a businessman Yeah, it's just being about the money when he did the thing with the Nets They said our Jay-Z is gentrifying Brooklyn He's helping them put up this big-ass stadium and moving all these people out and somebody correct me if I'm wrong but Less than one percent of people got displaced and it creates it created thousands of kind of job thousands of jobs in Brooklyn and when you say displaced it was people that they had to pay those people right But you gotta crack some eggs to make an omelet of course, but there's a cynicism toward him that whatever you're doing I can't help the poor if I'm one of them right look at you Look at you quote. No, baby. Okay, let's say us minorities got stick together I Don't want us to make the same mistakes that I've seen our forefathers me Yeah, I'm saying like I'm saying I'm telling you if you watch please watch King King in the wilderness man and watch how Depressed Martin Luther King, Jr. Was watch how they kick my king back in there was a headline issue the headline from a paper That said Martin Luther King, Jr. Is selfish this Vietnam move was about him not the actual war The guy was non-violent his whole life Of course he would be against My god, but it's like those headlines. It's like the same type of things you see now. Oh Jay-Z is doing this for himself We listen. I don't think he's doing it for himself. I don't either. I'm wrong. Hey, then I'll be wrong in the future We all look stupid because time will reveal reveal reveal off, but I think he means well I think he's doing well I think he has so many other things that he could be doing the Khalif Browder Whistlesland He's doing I think that there is no nuance anymore. We live on one side Yeah, and that the other thing is that's people of color. We're not allowed a spectrum Everything is either we're on one side or the other it comedy like well, you know when it comes to people of color Like well all y'all talk about the same thing You don't allow us to talk about anything else There are there's Hannibal Burris and there's earthquake and everything in between and we should have a spectrum Jay-Z and Colin Kaepernick are tackling the same issues, but they have different different methods of doing it and Listen, who doesn't support Colin Kaepernick that cares about equality and you know how many white people get killed by the police? The 12 year autistic white boy whose parents called the cops to come help them and they ended up choking them to death You don't hear about it because it doesn't stir the pot as much because it keeps us distracted We're always sharing videos about black people getting beat up and barbecue Becky barbecue Becky can't keep you from buying a house You know who can Bank of America who you get your money to and Sirach when you buy or my bad not sirach, but when you're going We give our money to the things that really hold us back and then we're always setting fires around things that don't really matter And we got to stop setting those fires and we need to look back Jay-Z may very well be the in-road for Colin Kaepernick to get a job back in the NFL Maybe some people acting like he's the nail in the coffin I don't necessarily see it that way if you were an all-powerful oppressor Mm-hmm, right Could you design a better system to hold a group of people down than what you just described? Like that would be the perfect system is hey get them all fighting. Yeah about this nonsense on divide on the ground Dividing arguing whatever it is as long as they just don't agree As long as they can find one little thing is cool. They could discredit the guy who's trying to help them Make sure they do that and if we don't find it pull point it out That is the perfect system hold people down many people's jobs We've lost right and I'm like if I come if they out there messing with little kids on lemonade stands I hope they lose their jobs right, but we use so much power of our power to make that one person lose their jobs But we don't lose use that power to close a corporation down and that's where we that's why we get so lost Corporation open one up Everybody thinks there's all this value and closing shit the value is where you bring the money in that's right You like trust me you close one thing that you close equinox another gym is gonna come You want a liberal Jim go Yeah, you know it's simple that equinox it was so dumb what equinox shit you see this owner equinox said he was gonna do a charity for for Trump for not so and then And then everybody started to I think Chrissy Teague. He's started. She's heard. We got a boycott Equinox and so It's like 30 30 of the 32 NFL owners support Donald Trump they but but I'm saying all that to say I'm sure some of those football players go to so go to SoulCycle. They stopped going to SoulCycle problem Because it's like it's so no it everybody Akash has a great joke about like his like people like how could how could you how could people be okay with the things that That the people the people that with the things Trump says about people in the lgbt community this at the other and Akash goes uh, I Have an uncle Yeah, but the owner equinox You're not boycott Trump right now you boycott the owner of your gym the owner your gym need to have the same political Feelings is you like that's crazy, bro. I've said on this podcast a million times Maybe just maybe we need to go back to a time where everybody just took this shit. I don't need to know your religion I don't need Though we got to be fair the reality of this country is that this country is our government is highly influenced by these Corporations, so they have a voice and that is what you know, look at the guns, right? They made the guns about video games, right that Walmart will shut that bitch down for the teens clothing section Cuz that's why Jeffrey Epstein is gone based on that measure, right? If you don't blame the video game then we blame it in teenage tight jeans That's the reality of it. We we you have to that that man doesn't just own Soulcycle that man owns an NFL team, right? Isn't it was anger that that's not that's definitely who's the who's got it? Well, that's Ross Steven Ross So the thing is that but do you think he gives a fuck about LGTQ he just wants to save 10% of its taxes That cost something though and if that cost is People either being oppressed or killed or whatever let's talk about cost Then it's like let's talk about cost because we all are okay with cost. We just don't acknowledge it Oh, sure, right? Absolutely you 35,000 people die every year in car accidents not drunk driving just car accidents We could eliminate every single car accident death by taking a speed limit and making it 10 miles per hour Y'all want to drive 10 miles per hour to work now, and I got a pee now So basically we're all sitting here going I'm okay with 35,000 people dying We are all okay with collateral damage every single one of us. You said 10 miles per hour No, but what I'm saying is those 35,000 people that die aren't from speeding just regular car Yeah, but that's a false equivalency when you're talking about systemic oppression. That's not I'm talking about people dying And we got a solution. Yeah, but I got a solution to stop It's a systemic oppression. There's a difference between what you're talking about and systemic That's human element of like if you drive a car you're gonna crash that bit sometimes at 10 miles per hour You're gonna live yeah Unless you roll down a hill Roll down a 10 miles per hour get out your car before you go down a quick My point is what I'm saying is we're all okay with a certain amount of collateral damage every one of us has a Cell phone this is made by child slaves It ain't only a portion of black people who are being oppressed is black people be are born oppressed because of the color of their skin Yeah, nobody's denying oppression nobody's denying oppression nobody's saying what I'm saying is we have to accept a certain amount of collateral damage in our lives, right? So but we jack-in-office, but we can't be So if we we can't we can't Truly go out and boycott every person that we disagree with because we'd be hypocrites ourselves, right? We're looking at What you say, but we boycott our interest that's just the truth to the matter like if something is a directly Affecting us are directly affecting a group that we care about then we'll boycott whatever is oppressing that and we Ignore the shit this fucked up, but helps us We're all guilty of that everybody right left is guilty that right so who are we? To judge somebody who's ignoring the shit that helps them if it was if everything was balanced If everything was balanced if all people had the the the same reality, right? Then that was if it was more equitable. We would be able to look the other side It's not and and look you can only put out what you can only put out the fires You know about I didn't know that the head of Equinox supported Trump until he did it So he said that I can only put out the fires. I know about right the beauty of social media. They alert us to a lot of fires Right keep us distracted though that we get so caught up in a lot of those fires You just got to focus that's all but you know the funny thing is that you know how many people I saw tweet I love black people black people, but I'm gonna watch my raiders this week You know how many people said but there's I'm watching my game My friend is what I'm talking about like if you look at the list of banks that Decided to pull out of prisons funding prisons because of the the economic their bottom line was affected That's how you affect change. Fuck the Jay-Z thing, right? What's you doing? What's your money? Jay said Jay said yo, I can he said all of these people that are critiquing me. He's I'm used to this He said, you know four or five years from now. We'll see where it stands But he said all these people that are critiquing me. What have you done in the last 365 days? He said I can show you how many people I've helped in the last 365 days I can show you how many jobs I provided I can show you how many people I've gotten out of jail What have you done? You got to give some people more cash a man I think Jay deserves more cash a then motherfuckers to be saying oh, he's a sellout like that's that's actually Twitter has really made everyone feel as if Their opinion means anything. Yes, it's a bunch of useless horseshit there used to be a time back in the day where there was no Twitter and Your opinion only mattered Amongst your close friends and even with them. They'd be like if you don't shut the fuck up Useless pieces shit. What the fuck have you done in the last year? By the way, they did the same thing to Colin when Colin when Colin settled with the NFL He won't talk about he won't talk talk take talk about how much money he took he won't say nothing Some people when he did the deal with Nike. Oh when Nike sells guns to both sides How you gonna have a deal with somebody that's the sponsor of the NFL So yo you damned if you do you damned if you don't and you got to do you and you got to just hope your intentions are pure And then you got to be strategic because there's a lot of motherfuckers on the internet And they got they work at magazines and they they woke and they leading charges and they don't have a plan All they have is Automated tweets that are witty. They're very funny. They punch hard They drag people when they get in they motherfucking cars They go home and they don't do shit for people who look like them and I come from motherfuckers like that Because I live on the ground I don't have to tweet that I'm feeding homeless people because I don't need to do that because I feel like I go out and teach Classes to single homeless mothers about economic empowerment. Those are the that's how you you turn the table Like you teach people about money your people really good at that, right? Yeah, we we don't we're we're so me as a white guy Yes Guys I'm Asian what gets me out of this this situation Guys Squarespace and I'm telling you if you need a website What are you doing with yourself if you don't have a website? 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Okay. We got to wrap this up. Is there anything that was Pertinent this week that we had to discuss had to talk about had to had to get off of our chest Dude, I think Joe Budden is a marketing genius. Oh, yeah, he got the things figured out I am so you got totally figured out again. Listen. I'm this stuff pops up on my Instagram Elliot Wilson is posting about it I'm hearing it like a Jason. I'm not someone who like listens to the show, right or Nikki show by any means, but it is You are a brilliant Marketer if you find a way to turn Tragedy into triumph, right? There are many people that couldn't swallow their ego Maybe after that first interview with him and Nikki, right and go or at least the clip I saw about it She's bad like she's laying in on and she came with facts. Yeah Boom a hundred percent wrong and and she exposed it and he was smart enough and ego less Enough to go run it back on mine. Let's continue this momentum. This is great for Nikki. Nikki's been floundering This is great for Joe, right? It's like They created a fucking moment that people really and it might have been a situation where people got to see a side of Nikki that they really resonated with and it might this this I haven't listened to the one. I don't know if it's out yet Okay with Nikki and Joe where where even Nikki's fans start to go That bad, maybe they got history. They're cool. It's like They found a way to do the impossible which is make something from nothing. Yeah, and you gotta give Joe credit You gotta give him credit with that man He knows the audience he knows what it is they want to hear from him and he knows how to flip that shit Listen, I believe anybody who got slapped by Ray Kwan and still Yeah, it's still out here making it happen And I was one of his This was when I was listening to Nirvana Listen the reason I I say that is not to emasculate him the reason I say that is the ability to be that that type of vulnerable within a culture of people who penalize you heavily for stuff like that and Be and is always able to even the with the academics thing the way that he Navigates through the world just being a regular person who happens to be Joe But that's and that is admirable because everybody right now so fucking perfect everybody so badass ain't nobody I wish a mother everybody is that a lot of pretentious shit And the what I will say about the whole thing with the Nicki Minaj thing is when I think about modern-day celebrities I always think about Michael Jackson and Muhammad Ali right so while Michael Jackson ran from the people Muhammad Ali walked with them And I just think that this is the era where the people want you to walk with them Yeah, and I think that that's why so many celebrities struggle because There's this thing about you hot right now and no matter how many what a following you have when the machine decides You're not hot anymore You melt down and the truth is that the people should speak for you and you shouldn't fucking continue We can't live our lives about what the machine says The machine says a motherfucker who kisses a cat on YouTube is bigger than us You know what I mean and we we sitting around here writing and trying to create shit. Yeah, so I'm poppin I don't know about you I'm Andrew Schultz Com slash the Andrew Schultz. It's not shadow pen yet. I love Gotta be though. No, I know I 100% agree with you a thousand percent. It's uh, yeah, you touch on something interesting I've been curious about what Joe's superpower is and I think I Missed it because I operate in like a white world as well where Like being vulnerable is a lot more acceptable. It's a romantic comedy. Yeah, exactly and Joe I think he the reason why he's such maybe an outlier and so when that why people gravitate to him So well is because he's that exactly he's open the book is open. It's not closed It's not shut. It's not trying to create this image of facade. It's yeah, that's a mental health problems. Yeah Yeah, I have this yeah Opens the door for people who are struggling when to that point when he when it should happen with Rayquan in the Wu Tang I had no clue about this. So this was probably what? 2010 11 maybe maybe even earlier than that maybe nine, but it was I think double XL had put out a list It was like a brackets thing like March Madness type Tom Yeah, and I think it was I think the beef was specifically with meth It was like mess was ranked higher than him and whatever seed and he went he was still he was Like one of the first rappers, you know really doing the YouTube internet Joe button TV thing He was going live live, but he was Recording himself all the time love it and he was basically ranting about there's no fucking way in hell met the man It's better than rapper to me bum ass met the man blah blah blah blah blah They seen him at a festival punching in his face had a big ass bruise on his face And the first thing he did was hop on the camera and say yeah with ice pack. Yeah, they just fucked me up I just got my ass And it was like it was a joke, but that became To me it became a big part of establishing that thing of like I'm shameless. I don't care about being vulnerable I'll show y'all whatever y'all want to see and eventually I'll turn that tragedy into some kind of triumph Yeah, this is I this is something very common in like the white world Like this is like every punk rock band is yeah, I was beat up in school Yeah, right right so and now and and there is value to it, right like you can if if that's in the wrong hands It can be manipulatable right you can manipulate people if it's in the right hands It can be a positive message for how to handle your insecurities, right? You can be m&m or you can be fucking Not childish gambino what's the other kids from what was the other young kid from uh, brooklyn that was out here running around Charles Hamilton Of course, I would know You can be you can either one of those guys and right and m&m goes on to sell 10 billion records and Charles Hamilton is probably Somewhere in flatbush fat Like What happened with flatbush fat? No, we're talking about uh, joe and and the niki situation and what happened. I didn't hear it I just thought he I didn't I've only heard clips on instagram But I thought the whole thing was handled brilliantly like if they created a moment and they had a park too to a moment All this shit is wrestling Great, but it's all wrestling like I can like me and niki talk like me Text each other like we argue over the phone while you're wasting the content bro What do you mean wasting content put that shit on the airwaves What? I'm out here with senators and shit talking about like fucking health care boring By the way, I love niki manaj mom all I've ever had for niki manaj was constructive criticism That's it about her music and her attitude. That's it. Right. Ain't no beef. I don't have no beef with niki Like you know how to be for me now that I know To be honest with you, I don't know. I just know niki know how to create compelling spectacles Right She knows how to market whatever she drops a record and if you've been watching the formula ever since she's at queen radio She does it she'll put out a record episode our album queen radio episode And she just stirring up them waters and catching them fish and we just eating it up eating it up eating it up And I'm like go ahead niki do your mother fucking thing because it's entertaining has it worked for the record So has it I don't think it's work for the records work more for the radio. It's work more for her personality Yes, because we're finally feeling some niki That was all I was my that was my criticism that got us in trouble But it was just like all we know about you are these characters that you play You're like 14 different people it's schizophrenic and then cardy comes along and she is unapologetically herself That's way easier to gravitate to the character that I love that she plays is uh the rap games monique and we call her And and she loves us for real Okay, so that's I don't I don't like it's fun. It's funny to me. It's interesting. It's entertaining games Monique is crazy. I don't like that by the way recently she did Are you not even responding to it? I mean, it's like what I'm supposed to say. She says you don't buy me selling mental health I'm not selling mental health. I go to therapy. I got anxiety. I deal with depression sometime like What is the foot is that to sell? Let's say you are selling let's say you're selling mental health. Are you a therapist? No So how the fuck are you supposed to profit? No, I mean that like Why would you sell some shit that you can't make money on? It's the same thing with jay It's like if you really want people to go out there you're saying go out people would say I put out a book Yes, so that people are introduced to mental health. I didn't even do it for that reason I just was telling my story Sure, whatever reason that you do it for it doesn't matter the way that you make money off of an idea Is not by selling one book that book promotes another commodity that you own if you for example Hey Atkins diet, you know what you guys shouldn't eat bread bread is bad But I got this cool bread substitute that you could buy these bars, but don't worry about that bread is bad Bread is bad. Oh, you guys aren't being bread. I need something to eat except bread Oh, I happen to got these little bars that you can eat, but that's not what I'm selling You see what I'm saying? You don't have the come up off the hustle I don't have nothing to sell. I guess what I'm trying to say is a horrible business plan like If you are trying to make my other t-shirts, yeah, I went for my fucking self I went to show that they invest in your mental well of anxiety depression. I went for me, but that's where Cynicism just got to die at some point like certain things Nobody bro. It's like the second you try to help Everything and it's like if you're just going to be cynical about everybody's intention If nobody is genuine and nobody is pure exactly everything is exactly everything is a hoax and it's like what are we doing out here? Absolutely, I don't understand. Yo, we believe That there is a global international conspiracy to kill Jeffrey Epstein in a heartbeat Hey jz. Want to help black people? I this here because of monique though Yeah, and around about what happened the way I I yeah, I won't I will never Disperage a female. Oh monique puts you on no I'm just saying that she's paved the way for many women of color and She won an oscar and she's very funny And I do think that she's worthy of the of respect and I'm never going to talk bad about her. I agree I have listen. I have I agree with everything that you said. I have no problem monique once again Me running my big mouth saying what I think somebody shouldn't get I was just talking about her initial Definitely, I was just like, I don't know if she should get as much of the H. Pell Chris rock Amy Schumer. I think that we We as people of color we have a lot of issues with self-worth And I think that a lot of times we set the bar We we we have to we don't need to set the bar with other marginalized people We just need to we just are worthy like when people say latin women are very Unknown for saying what we don't make as much as black women Well, black women don't make as much as white women. So why is why are black women as much as asians, right? I get what you're saying. I was looking at it from a business perspective though. I mean, I listen I don't know. I'm not I don't I don't need to be in anybody's pockets To know that I think that monique is worth more than $500,000 on netflix, right? That's my personal opinion But she's not yes. She is no no. What are you basing it on? I'm basing it on her years of comedy her selling out venues her value as a comedian Her ability to do what a lot of the people who are on netflix cannot do and that's move a room because I watch I watch monique and I mean I monique to shack all-star comedy gem That does not mean I don't have to mention amy schumer when I talk about monique Her name is worth more than that. So by the way, I don't know what monique should get I just know she shouldn't have got 500 Here's the thing you and I both know a lot of comedians in the game that are fucking hysterical Right that if if this game was based on funny only They should be getting 30 40 million from netflix But you and I both know there's a difference between funny and the funny business Absolutely And what I will say to you is when you see robin robin williams who was not doing stand-up anymore And people will tell you he went he's an award-winning comedian. He's a bona fide actor It was fine to in order to Present the value of robin But now when you tell people that monique got an Oscar. Oh, but this is stand-up comedy No, her whole package is worth just what what another And if you would if you do it with them, you got to do it with her almost that What I'm saying about her is I'm not saying give her 10 million dollars But what I'm saying when Wanda Sykes even said my offer was pretty low like I When she first got her deal there if you compare the deals compared to the others And you see a lot of a lot of people on netflix who You like you you know, you and I are comedians So, you know, we watch some of them specials and we're like And by the way, some of those people I'm not gonna say their names Because I was just I don't want to do research. I've asked they getting a quarter million 100,000 Yeah, that nobody's making money on netflix except the big guys the big Making 20 30 40 million, but the people that aren't them. Amy got it, right? She's or she's without a doubt at the point in time regardless of what you think about her comedy She was the biggest name. She was in fucking movies, right? Monique was not selling out arenas. You and I both know that No, she was not selling out arenas. She was worth more than half a million She just wasn't worth what they were worth, but she was worth more than half a million You're worth what you're worth, right? Like now if you and I want to say Let's pay her based on what she's done for comedy and what she's done specifically for women in comedy Worth way more than half a million Listen if you look at way more, but you don't get paid for what you did you get paid for what you're doing That's right I agree, but you look at that roster on netflix of comedians and you see that who was there before Wanda Sykes, what samore was the only black woman who had to produce her own special and sell it And you're netflix and you're like wow there is and i'm on netflix There's a void here. There's absolutely a void and you're not going to tell me that everybody on netflix is selling out arenas That's the fact. I want to say this. I wish people could have heard me. I was in that latest past weekend I was we was at the table arguing I don't think eddie murphy should get 70 million dollars. Oh, yeah, he's I mean And I love eddie You saw kevin heart take my take what he said he said on his podcast remember I was saying eddie murphy should go right to uh To uh paper view he should and then on his fight. He's like, yeah Someone said he said someone said he's like he should do a paper view special Just cut everybody out and do it I 100% think eddie should do that but 70 million dollars for netflix You're when you pay somebody that much money you're paying for two things You're paying for the name netflix to be associated with every single drop That's in the news about that special think about think about think about the advertising that they got for free Just throwing it out there that eddie was going to do it for 70 million all of us tweeting the news coverage The hype alone and it was when we say we gotta be we have to acknowledge the fact That when you say eddie murphy, that is age specific. Oh, that is age when you talk about everybody. That's like 35 Maybe 40 You're comic no, but before I was a kind I started comedy because delirious. That's the reason why I'm in comedy I remember exactly, you know, although a lot of comedians were like we can't wait to see Um eddie murphy failed like the younger comic I'm gonna come back Haters but what I will say though it created an awareness and then there was action Now there's tiffani haddish tiffani opened the door for six other people Now there's wanda sykes who has one of the best specials on netflix And if you say that is not then you a motherfucking hater because technically it's sound performance The writing and the funny is all there and it just hit leslie jones, didn't they? Then it just gives them. I don't know. I thought I saw something about leslie jones But that's why I said monique's in a roundabout way Yes, she created she rocked the boat netflix wanted to do something and who else to go grabbed and tiffani And tiffani did what we all should do and power other people Like if i'm onique, I mean, I I agree. I don't know the 500 000. I mean, I guess I don't know Right. She all right, but let's be honest netflix is so far in the red with the like they never gonna make the money back Anyway, if i'm onique i'm looking at them like you're throwing this money out the window Like you can't throw me some of the all the money over there. By the way, that would piss me off too. Y'all in the ramp As soon as you get to me like, you know, like, let's be a little conservative Y'all motherfucking is hemorrhaging money How do you know tiff? I mean, I know but i'm we've been friends for um since I started doing stand-up She and I we've been friends for like 11 years when I first started doing stand-up She's one of the first people that embraced me And was like, oh, I know why they hate you She was like they all they've been talking about you and she we became friends and we've been friends She she really like showed me how to get my money Like I will call her and say hey, I got this offer and she will be like no And don't leave your house for free You're not this is what you because I would I felt like I had imposter syndrome in comedy for so many years You just want to get on stage and you just then you start messing you start messing yourself up when you Start taking whatever they give you because then they're like, oh, but you so happy to be here So she was was one of the people that was like you you have to learn to Assert your worth and she taught me a lot about the business of stand-up The other thing that she taught me was Don't go around talking shit about people even when they talk shit about you Give them a hug and keep it moving and that's where we meet That's why she has a relationship with her mother and I have a relationship with mine Is because you didn't have a choice Tiffany really like that though, like Tiffany is not going to talk bad about a person Like I'll be on the phone with her and I'm the one talking bad about somebody that may be fucking with her And she's like no, I bless them. I love them and I'm like that that inspires me So you read that she directly had that Tracy thing way better than I would have Tracy who Tracy Morgan Uh, yeah, I I'm not that was I didn't like that. Yeah, I didn't like it either I had no attachment to the situation, but I was like that's kind of wacky. She kept it super cute like I'm not gonna You say give him a hug, baby You know she's That's not her energy That's why she keeps winning and that's why you can put all that hatred on her name And god is going to open up the world for her because that's not where she lives and it's not fake Because you talk to her on the phone. I talked to her on the phone. She doesn't live there And she inspires people to be like that like that girl took a pay cut for us You hear me a pay cut a substantial pay cut and while you hear these big old deals 50 million 70 million 90 million Who how many people took somebody with them? She took six people with them and she made sure that they put respect on our names when they sent us those offers And you come on man. How many people do that? Let me tell you something. I'll fight you over tiffani hattish I genuinely love her like she's that good of a person like she's that good Of a human being like, you know how you hear certain people talk shit about people like nah We ain't doing no you can't do that because she not she don't deserve that in no way shape or form Talk shit about me. I deserve it They do But you gotta say like comedy comedy is a very fickle business in a way that like Oftentimes the people that comics speak highly of are the ones that one. They're not threatened by or two They're being fed by Yep, you know like oh, yeah And and I and I and I learned the game early like I'd you know I'd be at the cellar hanging around and then like a comic that was very well known But maybe not beloved by comics will come by you know a dane cook for someone for you know And comics when dane's out there talking all this shit and those same comics sucking dicks on a day Man when I saw that Right and I was like, yo, what is going on and then then weird shit you see you you see like You see dudes hanging out with you And then talk shit about another comic that's their friend and it's like if you talking a shit to me About your friend What you're saying about me when I'm not here By the way, what you're saying right now is exactly why I go from a to b so fast because I can't be fake like if I have a conversation about somebody To somebody when I meet that person we gotta talk we gotta talk to say it to them I I can't live with myself if I don't say it to them. You know, it's crazy is like I had this like that's what happened with Judd Apatow. Like when Judd was at the cellar and like I was He he was there and it was right after he was tweeting shit about louis ck and I and I asked him I was at table. I was like, yo, what was that all about? Like I just started the conversation about like what? Why would you do that? You know and all these comics were We're at the table and a lot of them like, yo, that was crazy. You said that to him and I was like Why is it crazy last week? We were all saying that about him. Now he's here Keep that same energy. Don't look at me and wink. Don't kick my leg under the table No, fuck that and you don't even gotta be aggressive about you could be curious You could it's not a fight ever. It makes you honorable like that It makes me that's the word Tiffany a lot of people used to talk about her sexual content And we had a conversation one time. This was like maybe five years into our friendship And um, I told her I said It makes me uncomfortable Right and we talked about the reason why it made me uncomfortable because I was molested So when I hear people talking about sexual I see these comedians talking men and women I cringe, you know Yeah, because I'm like and I marvel at the fact that people can talk about All the sexual stuff that they can with such freedom and power because I I feel like I was still in bondage She and I cried on the phone together But I had that conversation with her instead of all these motherfuckers that are always talking shit behind her back And now they sucking her dick on instagram I'm not doing that with my friend. That's I can't call her my friend But we had that conversation and she she addressed it. She's like, I know you get weird you leave the room Like I think you hating on me and I'm like now I'll fight them. I'll fucking to the death for you But that makes me uncomfortable because of this. Yeah, it is it is an interesting and it's a good quality that that tiffani has to allow that because uh There's the saying is you know prophets let people convert now. I'm not putting that on tiffani to be prophetic, but You can't carry Hatred like when you get in a position of power and leadership Remembering every person that wasn't that nice to you on the come up Oh, I'll show you when they come when they convert when they come on and they support what you're doing They find salvation and you or they find it's like you got to allow them to no No, no charlotte suck this dick first No, and I mean that a disrespectful way you go suck my dick. Fuck you suck my dick Apologize for the bullshit you did to me, bitch ass And then Then if they're doing you wrong that's one thing about it. That's why people if they're doing you wrong That's one thing they look at kanye like he's crazy now because when kanye got on the scene He was like that an our person passed on me that an he's on the radio Finally that he's he's reconciled that within himself and now he's like I gotta be zen Because like I said this shit causes cancer. Oh kanye is crazy Look at kanye, I lost his mind. See my thing is though You just got to get to a point where once I get it out I'm cool Because you gotta understand people when people tell you that you ain't gonna ever be shit Oh, yeah, no, I know when they tell you that you're not gonna make it I had a program director named boogie d and I mean this in the most respectful way boogie d boogie d told me That's why I'll never make it in radio. Yeah He needs to be known I gotta name him Why why not you already won that's not enough for you. I gotta tell the story. I'm just telling the story Look, you could tell the story. I guess I I'm not gonna I wouldn't I know that you know, but why do you get boogie some shine? Yeah, fuck it. You won already and if boogie comes on board and a boogie comes on board That's him admitting he was wrong. You don't have to come on board No, I'm talking about the people to come on board if the people keep hating on you. Fuck that Fuck the haters. You don't even gotta mess with it. You win. You win whether they come on board and you win Already. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All my success is the best revenge. That's the best in the entire thing So it's like we all have people. I know I'm sure we all have exact stories where you know, we heard little People act like the shit that is said about you doesn't get back to you Like the comedy world is small the radio world is small like the world is small So it's like when cats are like talking shit behind your back Right, you don't think that someone's gonna tell me that We're living a gossipy ass business. I love it. Yo Because you know why I'm gonna tell you another reason I love it. I'm not the type of person that's gone I'm not a I don't care about like acknowledging it or pressing you anymore It is dead to me. Yep. See me if that's even better if you come on on board. That's even You're already on board if you're spending your time hating on me. Yeah, like if you're getting online Yeah, doing whatever you're making video whatever if you're spending that much time hating on me You already on board. I got so I got so much space in your head I'm cool with that. Yeah, but my feeling is like once you come on board. It's like I had that responsibility because I knew I saw something that you couldn't see in that moment And now you see it and it's like, yeah, I know I know you couldn't see it because maybe you were bitter or maybe you were angry Or maybe you upset with where you were and I knew that about you then and it's okay Now you're where you need to be so let's all get this money together I it's I it's you're forgiven. Let's all get this money together, man As long as you're not if you're disrespecting me trying to actually fuck me over now Then it's fuck you forever not forever, but it's fuck you but if you've come around you realize That's enough for me. You know, there's no apology. Hey, are we on the same page? We all when everybody's trying to silence comics Are we on the same page and we're going to protect each other because I'm gonna ride for you Yeah, as long as you're a good comic I'm gonna ride for you and I'm gonna put it on the line As long as we all got each other's backs. Have you felt that this we got it? Well, yeah, I've had a lot of support I feel I felt that way like with the dino shamp thing like I was gotta ride for But let me tell you this this is a Comedian who did a joke about triple x. Oh, okay What I thought was funny though, like james davis is my friend and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna shit on date I like jean. I called him the second I saw that and I Although I thought it was handled improperly. I was gonna call dina and say yo I don't know if you know those x x x fans, but they now they will come for you Like before I saw I wasn't gonna put her on blast I was gonna say watch her back because motherfuckers tattoo Baby bottles on their faces Can we just be we can agree on that but james did what he did what I thought was funny was How many men who are comedians became feminist in that moment and were like She only they were they were defending her She's a female comedian if it would have been a man who said this and I was like the only reason you are Defending this because you want to say shit that is just want to talk shit about black people And you want and this is giving you the segue into that and that's why I didn't jump on either side of it because I didn't I didn't think it was cool to jump on james the way they jumped on james Like people were calling him a bitch. They were they were like you should be out of comedy That's g code that he broke though. That's the problem 100 but he's a black man Who watched the assassination of another black man and was sensitive about that And that's something that a lot and also when people were like well x was Beat up his pregnant girlfriend that boy was 20 something years old a lot of those comedians that were tweeting about him Were 40 something years old I would love to see your shitty ass when you were 20 and see what you did back then You were full evolved whole man now My my feeling was judging this young boy. Yeah, right because say what she said she said something She said something very important change. This is a black man. Yeah, seeing that is triggering But then here's a comedian. So y'all do have like a a culture and a community. So it's like Damn what comes first? Yeah, you could like you said you could be more than one person Like you could be more than one thing we have to police our own village So that's my thing is you don't go to instagram and say comedy central y'all you say a dina Let me tell you something. I was going to tell you heard this I believe you could say whatever you want to say in comedy, right? You go to miami with that old fuck shit You go to the city you could be white and say the n-word all you want Deal with the consequences Deal with the consequences Scott's project And knock your teeth out. That's when they say i'm calling the police. They'll be like I live there Calling the police Officer Jenkins that I am right on the corner I just ran from them this morning So i'm all for it. I'm never going to edit. I'm never going to censor. I'm all for it But you got to know y'all you got to know when you the my nephew is one of those kids that's like in that triple x Coat like thing more fucking doing on instagram with a gun and we like yo, what's going on? Do you feel the same way about The guy who killed x I feel what do you mean meaning like you're saying that you could say whatever you want on stage, but You got to be able to deal with the reaction like Do you think I what i'm saying is x might have said something to that guy was trying to rob him And then he got killed like would you say to x would you go? Hey, you could say whatever you want to a robber But you might get killed killed I was watching a video of him in a fight where they stabbed somebody and he was laughing And he was like hoping like I think the guy was dead and I thought to myself Yo That shit you putting out into the universe right is very like what you can do whatever you want That's nobody's exempt from those rules right, but comedians are not either So when I hear these white boys saying I want to say the n word I want I'm saying you could say whatever you want to say just deal with that You just got to be ready to and and that applies to everybody on the just sounds like you guys are justifying violence It's like You don't have a ladies y'all could wear whatever you want, you know what I mean, but some guys might see some titties And they might You have the false equivalency and by the way that man may grab them titties But he may go to jail Go to jail if you come out if you beat up, uh, anybody for what they say I'm not I'm not condoning violence. I am a witness that it is real. Yes So it's sexual harassment It's just real when I'm saying it's over after that because think about it I don't know what happened with the x situation But x might have said something that dude that dude killed x not that dude in jail in jail Because what we all should come together on I think we all agree on is that And as corny as this sounds but violence is not the answer right like what what we allow here in america Is you to say whatever the fuck you want to someone because when you stifle saying what you want the only recourse Is violence Why do y'all think freedom of expression is not physical? Right I got freedom of expression that might be to slap you in your motherfucking face Right that's a great point. I'll go to jail and you go to jail So yeah, but it's all it all it really boils out to is everybody being willing to deal with the consequences of their actions Say what you want to say cool. I'ma slap you. How about this when I slap you? I might go to jail. Cool I'm cool. But what about this? What about this? I'll say whatever I want to say and guess what you could say whatever you want to say back to me And now we're both operating in say world the world should be no no no I know I know what i'm saying is we should aspire to have behavior right right now I might have low emotion like you you might have touched a sore spot It might be a tree we're going bad things could happen I guess we're saying like if everybody's on the same page right would take out some like sociopaths take out some crazy motherfuckers Right, and it's just like I don't think I don't think any comic that makes a joke And we know some sensitive-ass comics, but I don't think any comic who makes it a super offensive joke If somebody else went up after them and then clown the fucking shit out of them as part of the game bro You got clown. Yeah, that's what it is So it's like we're talking about something a little bit more sensitive when you're talking about Somebody being tragically murder because I keep telling you these are real people. I see jeff ross Roast p davison about his dad being dead in the fucking Jokes about his dad being dead though. So he kind of a license to do the view of comedians. Peter's a comedian We're talking about people who think they don't know the game They don't know the game and those are fighting words to them That's right. I think about it if you you don't think of you xxx and tassio you don't know nothing comedy You're making fun of my man getting killed. Yeah, that's all you're thinking about You're talking about a group of people who have bonded on darkness right that he talked about being suicidal and talked about being depressed These are people who are in a lot of them are in the darkness like when he died If you looked at those tweets those kids were like he was everything to them man He was a powerful figure to them and he's from florida The craziest people in america come from the brunks and all of florida I mean i grew up between the brunks in miami and i fight myself in my sleep I got these demons i can't get up off me because of those reality I mean it's a it's a tricky situation. I don't know what james is going through I know i called him immediately when i first saw the thing and i yeah, we spoke and i was like bro I just know that this is gonna get taken out of context And i and i said he's like what are people saying and i was like now we just talking right now It was me and cp, you know community. Yeah, and um And we're like i just know how people are going to take this just call dina Explain why you felt that way what the whole thing was and maybe y'all could work that out, but you don't want You don't want it to get out there that you're one of us And you're criticizing one of us over a joke because there are very few rules in the comedy game is don't steal And don't censor. Yeah. No, I agree with you and I didn't think it was cool for her to get Off in front of women at a hotel Let's not leave that allegedly I that's actually not true Up for i mean louis and i met and he was cool with me He was very nice to me actually so that made me feel bad because i was like i ain't hot It's crazy when you hear a louis story not from a woman and she's not talking about him jerking off It's like he didn't pull his dick out on me and i was like He didn't but he thought I was funny. So maybe that was the payoff for me If you think about that, that's crazy you you would a comedian and she's born to you like hi shit Because that's the thing we could separate ourselves from the I can't tell this epstein Man, I got this epstein shit Wait till it's finished. Yeah, it's not The whole audience was like Cringe when I said that if they're gonna ban the video games and they should ban the baby section because jeggings are problem And then I said, you know, that's how we lost jeffrey eppstein Because that makes it and the whole audience was like they all reacted like They were cringing but it was magical because it was everybody. Everybody was like, oh I got a question What's better a cringe or a laugh? Well, you you you you this I think you use the o Because an o is an audience Acknowledging that something is funny Yeah, they're not publicly wanting to do it right when you were at their homies like nobody o's right So the thing about an o is or an o is you can't double o Right, so to give him something sweet something on the other side and they're masters of but like if you get the o And then you tag it tag is when you add like another punch line That tag is always You got that bullshit out you got the fake out of you right like that's what patrice would probably call You got that phony out the o is your phony and you had no more phony left. So you got to give up Absolutely, I I agree like it's it's just that's dope because i'm one of those comedians that you go for it and then I open I went on our first like that age tag he gave you about that show earlier Like you get you you almost hoped that they grown up that first shit because when they hit it Yeah, I open for paul mooney And paul was like he calls me a little pretty bitch That's my name. There's no he won't call me my name and he's like come here a little pretty bitch He was like, uh, I see you holding back out there He was like whenever you start really going in and being who you really are and you let it go Stop being scared you don't be a problem. But he was I watched him And he didn't give a fuck when I this white woman got up and said mr. Mooney You really think that white people are the devil? And he was like nope, but you'll do to the real one gets here and Funny line The audience was like She got up and walked out And he just clowned her on the way out and proceeded to go in and it was Can't shake him He don't he doesn't care. No He definitely don't give a fuck And I was like I want some of that like I don't want it. I don't want to punish an audience for an hour But I do want to be able to speak I see things through a very dark lens I grew up in a very very problematic Environment the way we coped with that was through laughter, right? We made we but your daddy left you, bitch You ever noticed that the people that are most offended by jokes are the people that lives the cushiest lives You've never needed the funny. You've never needed it to get by And it's like and you're trying to take away the one Fucking thing that we had that helped us deal with that fucked up dark shit. It's super selfish And now you got on some fucking yoga pants. You got one of them running strollers. Your husband is at work Yes, white women. I'm talking to some of y'all and y'all bitches want to come tell us how to be offended about them talking about us Sit your ass down and go eat your kale ho I Well the crazy part about that is I feel like a lot of those people 90 percent of them will call themselves impasse Yeah To your point Yeah, like the comedians are dealing with pain like they're working out pain in various ways And you're so worried about your feelings that you don't give a fuck that this person is hurt And you consider yourself to be a person That said hurt people hurt people then Yeah, yeah, yeah, yo and I don't want to say like all comics are like dealing with pain I'm like writing like an epsi and joke because it's painful right right like some comics are writing through that You know, but like the murder of a pedophile is funny. Well, yeah, but like also This is how you deal with discomfort like Charlemagne is an anxious person and the way he deals with his anxiety is says whatever he's feeling in the moment You like vomit it you purge Right, you know, but it's an effective tool the people who don't they just kind of curl it You can curl in sometimes, right? So it's like that that's how you were and then you learned through life probably difficulty is If I make whatever I say funny I can get away with saying fucked up shit I never thought about it, but yeah, I mean it's the organically the laughter eases the whatever how comfortable Feeling it is. Yeah, it's a coping mechanism They put an infanticide joke in adventures in game What was it? Disney property the the the line the before when they're trying to figure out the time travel They're sitting there talking about the rules of time travel kill Hitler as a baby Yeah And she says why don't we if we can do all this? Why don't we just go back find baby Thanos and just you know Yeah, yeah, yeah the kill and the line that whole gives him back is that's terrible and he says it's Thanos. Yeah Yeah, yeah Yeah Like I don't get about those hypotheticals is like why don't we go back to when Hitler's a baby and kill like Why don't she just go back to Hitler's mom? And then make sure she doesn't get come then And that is why I am. Why do you have to kill a baby? But like, why do they jump to kill a baby? You have time travel. Go a little bit further. Wham, wham, wham. Bitch, kill a baby. Time to go. I got to run too, man. We got one more, though. We got a, oh, whatever. Yeah, I'll do that later. I had to give him your Instagram. Funny, a-i-d-a. And your Twitter? Funny, a-i-d-a. And make sure y'all tune in to Tiffany Haddish's Day Ready and watch Ida Rodriguez to watch our special on Netflix. Ida, thank you for joining us. Thank you for having me. This was fun. Ja. Yes, sir. 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