 Alrighty then welcome to the Nintendo Prime podcast season 2 episode 5 to 4 and for one of the first times at least in a long time not the first time ever We have a big Pokemon topic, but what is actually the first time ever is we have a full panel of eight. I don't know what we call this the the Octo pack I don't know Travelers Anyways, let's go Introducing ourselves who we are that's great What we've been playing lately, let's start with our First-timer Sabrina aka Saffron City TV. How are you doing? What have you been playing lately? Yeah I've been I'm great and lately I have been so I'm coming. I'm working on a video No, really. No, really. I have been I've been awesome. Um, so lately I've been I'm working on a video right now So I'm playing through Oris specifically Omega Ruby and then I've been doing the Scarlet and Violet DLC and just finished up the Indigo disc I know that the mochi madness is supposed to be available to play tomorrow So I'm really looking forward to that Probably gonna do something on that one too and then but in my free time because most of that is work In my free time I've actually been playing fire emblem and this is the first time that I've played fire emblem and I've been playing the one on the Gba like on the Nintendo switch online and I got to tell you this being my first time playing fire emblem It is so fun. Like I'm floored by how enjoyable it is even though the graphics are you know It Gameboy advanced graphics, but it doesn't bother me at all. I absolutely love the game It's so much fun, and I'm having a blast with it. I I actually Got to be honest. I would rather be playing fire emblem than Pokemon right now. I know burn me at the stake I'm sorry Any day But that's how good I am. I mean legend. I don't know legends. They'll did get me for right exactly Legend is pretty damn good. Um, I might want to play that more than engage I I do kind of understand the sentiment though of kind of feeling fire emblem Right now a little bit more than Pokemon. I don't know like I like scarlet invited a lot, but also I I Haven't gone to the into the DLC I haven't purchased and downloaded that with all the the the issues it had like I'm not as like Gong-ho about jumping into it So I do kind of feel like Pokemon's a little bit on like a downswing just at least in terms of like Not in sale terms of sales, right? But just in terms of like maybe that could the consistent fan base, right? Maybe even I I'm on the other side of this. So I don't want to say this, right? But Nate, I don't even know what you're laughing about. I'm assuming I said something weird. Oh Little little digging at Pokemon for a second night. Oh, well, I Will tell you this It's I think it's more so just like I'm sorry The interest in fire emblem is really just coming from a place of Of the fact that like I play so much Pokemon And I really sink a ton of time into it So fire emblem even though it is the GBA version is kind of shiny and new and fun and different and Really really enjoyable Yeah, that's but I enjoyed the DLC the DLC was fun Good good. Yeah, I mean I Mean fire on was another RPG, right? Like I actually like for some people who are only like only play Pokemon Like I've recommended maybe like going to play fire emblem like that's a good like Bridge title to other games if you're mostly a Pokemon player Yeah, I guess you could say that I Feel like I'm based I guess it's like a baby's not baby's first JRPG I would say Pokemon is more JRPG or it's like a baby's first JRPG if not that then maybe Mario RPG and then you kind of launch and you can it helps you launch and other base games I'm not saying from the perspective of being a baby, right? Like I assume they still have all their mental faculties I just think well And so they could they could understand, you know the RPG mechanics, you know some story-centric stuff But still yeah and get into the gameplay and it still be different Yeah Any let's Let's get to daddy Jake over there. Sorry to interrupt your muffin eating. Sorry. I love my muffins. All right, Kermit I I've actually been playing a Monster collector called Dragon Quest monsters Sounds very as the regulars here know my favorite switch game of all time is Dragon Quest Builders 2 So I really like Dragon Quest spin-off games And I'm having a lot of fun with this one. It's not Pokemon It's it's its own thing, but it's really fun and I like I've hacked my 3ds So I have all the ones that came out on like GBA and 3ds on my 3ds So but it's it's cool to have an official release for the switch And it was hard to get the physical copy for a while, but I think it's kind of easy to get now It was just like when I first launched So, yeah, I believe in playing something after like four weeks of nothing Finally In the gamer chair. Let's go. Let's go. We're so back. We're so back All right, Nick was okay. How you doing and what are you been playing? I'm doing good I actually I had a long spurt of not playing anything But then I finally sat down last weekend and finished Mario wonder because I was like War worlds in and I needed to do the last three and I was like It's not it's not that complicated to finish it. So I just sat down. I finished it and man I don't want I don't are we out of like the window of spoilers for the end of Mario Wonder? I would prefer not to know but I guess it's not that big a deal I won't say I don't want to spoil it because the I'll just say the file boss was really cool Yeah, and it is one of if not my favorite Final boss in a Mario game and it was just so fun and creative and really Continues that sense of like fun and creativity that the whole game has so it was very fun I may go back in a hundred percent at some point. I don't really know Well, I I had a person every Mario game. So is there an advocate the thing is the thing is There's other love. Yes, there's more levels You haven't played the whole game Like the the secret world's secret level. I mean so there's there's There's always us. There's a there's a secret level and there's a super super secret level like There's there's levels to this unintended But hey, I think it's not really a gatekeeping kind of game because you can play You haven't beaten the game if you haven't beaten the secret levels you haven't well, it's not so much you haven't I mean, he's not wrong. You haven't experienced the game Okay, then you haven't beaten tears of the kingdom if you haven't gotten every single core oxy'd that is I mean to know that's true You've beaten the main story, but have you beat the game? It's different feel like those are two different things. I'll go back to my wonder eventually I also feel like Andres research just becoming dare I say you can beat the game without completing the game Dude, that's that's true for any game. That's the most insulting thing you've ever said to me Yeah, it is No, I Completing games like oh, no, I understand. I just feel like that's just I can't help it's not a good thing to talk about right now His username is what it is. I didn't mean to actually reference him But like it's impossible to bring sure I mean the fact matter is that he he still is a staple in like the gaming community right for now he's done even before the heinous stuff, but I Do want to I want to I want to go back to your your your argument about Completing core oxy'd versus completing the last level Mario wonder. It is so different not the final level Mario wonder is the best level in Mario One, okay, that's like it's like boss level or the Okay, so like all right. It depends on what what's your cup of tea, right? But I would argue that the final super super secret super depth super duper level You have to do like that level that it requires beating like everything It's it's better than every it's like one of the best levels in the game, right? So it's definitely worth it. It's not like when you get all the core oxy'd and you get a piece of poop It's extremely different like you're getting a whole super cool level to play So it's different Maybe I'll go back to it. I did just get a ps4 pro I bought it off my friend for like a hundred bucks So now I have a ton of ps4 games that I'm gonna play so nice since the Nintendo year seems to be pretty light so far I'm just gonna go play the ps4 games. So there you go. That's what I got nice Eric buddy old pal Mr. Long time co-host of the podcast from day one. What do you think I keep it short Eric? Yeah, don't worry No, I'll talk for the next half hour here, so Just playing tears the kingdom. Oh, wow. Yeah, right. I think I'm an old can you lower your volume or a little too loud. Yeah, sorry I'm on the last The last side adventure So yeah, that's kind of where I'm at. It's the blade thing for the you could clan Nice. Oh, yeah, and then I'm working my way downtown and then That was where my brain was going um, I got you. Yeah, um then probably depths Yeah, that's expiration next then nice. I But you can't get a final Korok seeds to get a secret level of the game. Yeah, right For sure. Mm-hmm. Nice. Did you imagine if they put the master mode behind unlocking every Korok seed? Then I would actually get every Korok seed that would make it worth it I would go for people to be pissed, but I would And Sabrina for context and Manny to I guess um, I don't talk a whole lot So when I do talk people always just tell me I talk too much I'll meet myself Little chatterbox Andress what you been playing everybody? Well, I've been I've been a Sitting I finished because I guess I wasn't on here last week, right? So it's been a couple weeks since I've yeah, this is you and Jake my other co-host first episode of 2024 Let's see Before I was on my weight was up before New Year's. I can't remember so that was before New Year's We've only one episode this year. I think I yeah, I think I already talked about beating Mario RPG I'm trying to decide if I was oh, right. Okay. I remember now So after Mario Wonder I got into Mario PG, right? So then I beat Mario PG and then I went back to big one for Oh, sorry No, my bad, I cut you off I'm unplugging my mic now point. I was singing though we I mean, I don't know I guess at all mind having a background for you know singer as I talk Yeah, yes, I want to preference. I'm unmedicated right now because Adderall place didn't I got it filled today But I have not so if I have moments like that. I apologize in advance. I was wondering I wasn't gonna say In other words instead of me playing games. I'm just getting played got it I'm sorry, I'm sorry he he Nate started it by comparing me to the completionist, but anyways Um, I didn't really mean it. I know okay. I was trying to say like you're a completionist It's just like literally I'm like, oh crap like can't even say that he doesn't have a trademark on the word That's game It's so hard to talk about like say hey, so you're a completionist and like it just There's a difference between being a completionist and being the completion. I heard the And I was like I Do like completing games though and on that note once I beat my RPG I went back to pick one four and I a hundred percented it totally worth it There's a lot of extras the post game pick one four is like basically another half game and it's insane Just how much yeah, I'm not sure why they ended it like half the game because there's so much more, right? Like it's kind of weird because I think some people beat pick one four like oh we beat it That was neat but kind of short, but there's actually way more game left and story like it's it's crazy But the game's really good. So I finally beat that I've actually been playing a lot of Monster Hunter world Not on my switch. See I do sometimes play games not on my switch and It's a good time. I'm Right if it was on That is got him No, honestly, so I had Dragon Ball fighters on my PlayStation, right? But then it came out on switch a little bit DLC like I didn't get the DLC on my PlayStation I kind of like fell off and then I saw it was all the DLC like all this like three or four seasons of it And then it was at a discount like oh well I already have the game, but I can get it again for my switch will the DLC and so I did So there is something about playing games on Nintendo. I don't know what it is call it Playing Nintendo games on Nintendo since I was a little kid, but I do prefer it. I mean it's all portable, right? So there is it I think they call it a bias There's definitely a bias, but there is also an advantage of playing portably. So it's not purely illogical Also, Dragon Ball fighters does run pretty well on switch. I'm just I don't know There's anyone who's ever talked to you that will ever accuse you of being illogical That is a compliment by the way Well, I appreciate that but all all kinds of people exist. So I just agree, but I appreciate that Well, anyway, whoever met you and said otherwise I questioned their logic Yeah, well it happens But uh Blam Blam, what are you been playing lately, buddy? You've been itching to talk I can tell over there Well, that was a reference to Pokemon concierge the new Netflix series that you guys should watch It's really cute where the side ducks in the in the thing and he's literally just going Oh, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow as the blades. Yeah, I saw that trailer animation Animations, it's a nice like stop-motion claymation anime. It's really good What I've been playing dude lethal company man is so much fun Mario party and lethal company. That's been my last two things I we've been doing this thing drunk lethal company where we go in and if we die you drink and if you You know the whole group drinks the whole group dies or you fail to meet quota or whatever It's been it's genuinely the new among us like like a hundred percent like you can just you can just boot it up It's super easy to mod you just get whoever in I think we I mean we talked about this last time was on the podcast It's just it's such an awesome game Yeah, Nintendo games the last one I play was Pikmin I just beat the main story. I didn't have a beat in the second half that you were referring to under us I need to I'll probably will I have a lot of travel coming up soon at the end of the month So I will have time to To pay attention to the credits No, I Need to It goes back to Manny's point though Like it's kind of a weird choice because if you're the person that does not pay attention to the credits and by the way How dare you but By missing the credits you miss something really really key. Okay, listen, okay, I'll I will go back Look up the YouTube video. It'll be great. It'll be fine to put this in perspective Imagine imagine playing tears of the kingdom without watching the beginning of the game Like just why is it in the end credits? Then if it's if it's if it's something that crucial I'm trying to say in a way that doesn't spoil it is I know what you mean I got it. Yeah, it is it is crucial though. It is what kind of marble bullshit is this like What am I why am I is up to sit in the end of the God It hurts me it hurts me because I wish you experienced it but also why just cuz I I don't I think it was cuz it was really late And I was like I finally did it boop is through the switch to the side. It was yeah, anyways Anyways, yeah, that's it. And then I have my buddy side duck with me. He was not I did not have him last time I got him over the New Year's weekend. It was great. And yeah, that's what happened up, too Well, he's awfully cute. I like it Isn't he just wonderful? I love it. He's so soft Personally but I take very good care of side duck, okay Okay, probably is he Hit you with confusion and that's why we're here. I got I got I'll show you you guys can see the other plushies that I have So I got a whole bunch of there So a lot of mine are still on the Christmas tree right now though So I have I don't even like usually right here. There's like a giant like mound of sitting cuties But yeah, I got like laparous and sender rays up there and then on this side Got a nice hand on this side you got Okay, don't be jealous No senior in high school the Charmander was given to me because as a senior superlative for biggest nerd, so And then I love the collection Thank you. Thank you. It is quite the collection. I like the baby Maureen Luigi on top of the IV sore Yeah, they're Rachel. Where's that Bulbasaur? I can't see the oh I forgot that I actually like physically move my camera. I was like, why am I not centered? I Happens What are you playing lately? um Actually, I've been finishing up the Pokemon DLC. I'm trying to 100% 100% my Pokédex, but it's hard And I get really impatient so And I've also been playing Zelda the Minish Cap Oh It is totally goaded So yeah, that's what I've been up to Computer I can't see look at she kept a nice short and sweet She's like we're ready to talk about the topics right not just about what we've been playing Oh, well, she wasn't compared to the completionist, so I'm not gonna live that down. All right, um Guys, what am I playing lately? I've been playing tears of the freaking kingdom because I still haven't done everything in the game and I Told you guys I'm gonna be slow playing this game for probably years So I say that as soon as which two is announced I'll probably Bash right through the rest of it because then I'll know it'll be a 3d Mario and all this stuff I want to do it's kind of easy to slow play right now and Nintendo themselves doesn't have a lot of super exciting stuff coming Like soon, I mean Princess Peach Showtime is like the only maybe game I might pick up in the next Thank you very much You are someone who doesn't like replaying games though. Yeah, I know I'm only picking up thousand-year-door if there's new content. Oh, let me ask you a question Did you pick up Z me chronicles definitive edition? No No, I should I know I know I feel bad because I actually did beat the original Z never a chronicles I didn't get the new content in the future. I mean also say future connect is like like mandatory, but it's nice It's nice. Yeah, I do feel guilty about I don't know if I'm ever gonna get back to I'm keeping like this point I'm like, can we just get a re-release in 4k on the next system? And if I account for the fact that you just don't like replaying games I guess I can forgive you, but I mean you're definitely on thin ice. It was a busy time I was still playing all the games from 2017 Busy time Bro, this came out This came out in 2020. This is the drought of all droughts Not for Nintendo I don't need anything I had animal crossing. All right, fine. I guess I mean I don't need much else when you have animal crossing Yeah, and it's like living this second life. What are we talking about life simulator? I got so burnt out of that game. It gives me anxiety when I boot it up now Last time I booted it up. I was like, oh man, my town is all messed up. I just don't do one deal Did everyone know where were you what have you been doing When you go back to older versions of animal crossing where you weren't didn't have like just permanent sleep mode I would piss off Rosetti all the time He was so mean that like they had to change him because parents were complaining that their kids were crying And I'm just kind of like I miss those days Option to bring Rosetti back in the menu there should be a slider where you can pick How like mean or how nice Yeah, I would love it if it over is Eddie like he actually gets a little physical By the way, that's clean Ironically without podcast was super clean In the new year I got an only fans link from him for the two inch destroyer I'm just I'm already a terrible person apparently so fine. I wish you nothing but good luck and happiness dammit Let's go ahead and get into our first topic and this is about the future of Pokemon And I'm gonna let on just restart leave this because you know my knowledge of Pokemon If you play let's go Pikachu and Eevee, that's about as far as I've gotten and that's like it Yeah, I feel so sad for you Yeah, hey, you need some Pokemon your life. Yeah, I love legends Of all the story around it, but I really you played you have to play the DS Pokemon No, I'm good. You know we need to play Pokemon DS Pokemon is the best This is where we segue guys play Pokemon black and white Actually, don't play it cuz there's probably a remake But uh, yeah, so anyways the basic point is we don't have a last eye check We don't have any substantial Pokemon news, but of February is fast approaching and Yes, there's always a direct they do they call them the Pokemon presents, right? They're not they don't use the direct terminology anymore But and I think part of that just that creates some level of separation from official like Nintendo console stuff And sometimes they announced things separate from there, but anyways Yeah, so that had tends to happen on Pokemon day and that's the pattern is we are going to get a present Ever going to get at least one Pokemon game announced and likely several and one of them is probably going to include a mainline game Now the question is what kind of mainline game are we looking at here? Are we looking at another remake? Maybe for black and white a let's go style game or we're gonna get a legends game It's probably not a new generation because those happen every three years and it would only have been two But yeah, that's kind of the big question. So what what are we kind of thinking is the I hope I hope let's go is dead I hope they never make another one. I hope Rosetti got Unfortunately, I unfortunately have to agree with the whole let's go thing Like I think it was way too tailored like and don't get me wrong I'm totally okay with them making a game that is tailored towards a younger audience and trying to bring them into Pokemon, but I feel like they went way too far down the the kiddo scale with Let the let's go games and I really do hope that they don't but what I do hope for is another legends game because legends Arceus is One of my it is one of my favorites that they've recently released like I Could sink more hours into legends Arceus than I could into scarlet and violet honestly So I really hope that they do make another legends game and if they do Personally, I would love to see a legend Celebi because I think Johto is the perfect region to go back in time to Considering all of the history there and everything that they've got going on I would just you could do so much with the world you could do so much with the history It's already pretty packed out. So to put a legends game and Johto. I think Would literally be perfect But if we didn't get a like a legend Celebi type thing, I would also be cool with like I don't know. What would it be for like gen 5 would it be our or legends? I guess We would learn about Gen 5 though because just the United States like it's not as exciting as well So Interesting to visit in Pokemon as far as like going back in time is concerned But Johto, I think would be better or Hohen or you know, yeah Johto Hohen Even I would argue even Gallar I'm okay with any of them. Yeah as long as it's legends Honestly, I don't really mind The let's go series I can still play them. They're pretty cute But I do agree another legends game is needed because I always say Pokemon has the worst stories But they have some good lore going on so if they kind of like Do another legends thing I would love to know about the world and stuff And yeah, and I'm hoping for a really good black and white Hopefully they put black and white to too, but I won't black and I don't know Like they've been fumbling the bag with all the recently Pokemon let's go That's it. What I just think that they could do it. You know, they could do it right. It's not they could do Personally, I just think that like I I almost oh, no I don't find it. Hopefully he'll be back He's just he took any way. He's just doing stuff. You're not a fan of Pokemon It's okay react. No, um, I just I think that we should expect a remake And I really do think that they could make a remake with like the same Engine or the same graphics and all of this stuff like legends Arceus or even in scarlet and violet like they could theoretically do it and I think that you know va Deserves that, you know, I don't think we let Ilka take over again But you know, I just think we should expect a remake. I think it will be I think it will be you know va that gets remade and I just hope that we get away from the chibi art style and Bring, you know read do the remake with what we're playing with right now, you know what? I mean like yeah the graphic the technology the implements that we currently have I I think I think your theory on the fact that it's gonna be gen five some sort of I think we do get something gen five I don't know whether it's a remake whether it's legends. I don't know I hope it's legends because again, they said that that was supposed to be the start of a new series as new whatever but I Mean, I think that there's a lot of evidence for gen five Just they've teased it like crazy in the second half of this you guys play the DLC, right? Yeah, that's what I'm saying Everything curious Half of the like literally almost every song in the DLC is a remake like Toby Fox just remixed it like a shit ton of gen five music Like yeah, I mean, I know they have the the guy the kids like the grandson. Yeah, and the in the in the blueberry The entire institution that is in the DLC is is a is this exchange trip from you know, like they're all from you know Yeah, and the well, yeah, and I guess the other thing is they already have like past and future like paradox stuff So it already is almost linking in that way, too But didn't not didn't be DSP and and legends Arceus come out the same year one in January the other One came out November one came out in January of the next year different years Okay, so That's even closer than I said, it's too much difference. It's crazy. Yeah, so we could get that we could get a The same time Well, and that was because they were two different suits so game freak made legends and Ilka made the other one So that's I think it's a reason why they were even able to pull that off Yeah, like I think I had another chance. It would probably be better the second time Maybe I don't know because they listen to the criticism. Yes, I would agree. I don't think that they're bad. I Just like with BDSP BDSP Yeah, they did a good job with being faithful, but that's not not what we wanted Here's the thing besides like but I don't think it was bad though. I don't think it was bad I just don't think it's what we asked for or what we When we got those remakes those were like Jen to but with the exact same engine what we were playing with for like the You know for the DS game for gen four, right? Well, we got or ass and you know, it was the same exact Thing as like X and Y but with gen three And so when we got really diamond shining pearl instead of doing the same thing that they always did made great remakes and Put it into the same exact style They decided to do like a faithful remake and it was terrible. So like I just like I don't want to see them do that to another DS title Right. We already have all the mod like we already have an engine models Like we'll just do a lazy lazy, you know remake. Yeah, but they also made legends at the same time, right? So like they gave us a generation five or generation four inspired game that was arguably more ambitious than Sword and shield, right and they gave us a faithful remake. So they gave us Arguably more it was just packaged in a way that was not what we expected Yeah, I don't I don't really I don't really buy that cuz like I think of the remake Remake has like it's it's own thing and so I'm just like looking at it as the remake like I understand the Video is split, but it's gonna be split again. There's there's gonna be a legends game I mean I think I just think that if they use the same style like as legends, we're gonna be just fine We're gonna be a okay, but maybe with better graphics because let's not forget that the legends game still look Just a little They need to make it a little update it just a little bit but you know A lot there because the legends games the legends like legends Arceus is the best-looking Pokemon game We've probably ever gotten her 3d. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but if you look at like the text Yeah, but if you like I mean just got a vibe had some things that were better like the textures Yeah, like so this name I Don't know man I'm just saying like if you go into like your own if you go into your own little house in the game And you look on the table and there's a scroll You'll know what I'm talking about if you see the scroll because it looks it doesn't look good like I'm just gonna be honest I love to the game. There are parts of it that don't look good and That just is what it is Grass Gym leader you see the windmills and they're going like two miles an hour or something You're talking about an artisan Yeah, I love artisan. That's my favorite So In some ways legends Arceus does look beautiful, I will say that sorry Andres I didn't mean to cut you know I agree that it looks like trash. It's just the best-looking Pokemon game. It's that's not like setting the bar very high Yeah, I mean that's it's a good point to be made right that it could be the best looking of a heap of garbage that that I understand we're coming from there, but I do appreciate legends I even appreciate sky, but it's it's a mixed bag. I think that's fair But what I want to ask you guys We're kind of like all of us are seem to talk about this idea of a remake and like I know there's a lot of hints for towards generation 5 Something some are some argue the hints towards generation 2 something right? So maybe there is a legend celibate But what I find kind of interesting to consider is that if we were to get a remake in 2024 That would be a hell of a turnaround because we did just get technically brilliant diamond shining pearl Holiday 2021 normally we wait like five to seven years So I'm just very curious why all of a sudden everyone is like, you know what three years is fine Let's get another remake. So Andres we taught me and Jake touching us the last time me and him were on the podcast together We it's it comes down to Pokemon's Content cycle not just with the game the games are just the flagship But the entire boat and the entire Machine is getting ahead of itself now at this point And so it that you know if the game if the flagship doesn't come out The entire operation is dependent on the games And so if the games don't come out in time then the Pokemon card game doesn't can't follow up with it And can't constantly update and the merch drops that come behind that with the with the you know With the sitting cuties and the plushies and then the TV show can't follow that and so on and so forth It's just this compounding thing that all is reliant on this breaking point that is the video games But in you and I think that you can tell that Game Freak is under the strain that it's not because of the lack of effort but mostly because they are put under in an incredible time crunch and under incredible pressure under the Pokemon company the biggest media franchise in the entire world in the history of ever and Because there are plenty of points in the game where they add these small details And they add these things that are like, why would you add those if the game devs didn't care? These are things that are like incredibly creative and whatever It's just that they're doing the best that they can with the time that they're given And I think and I think that it's not a good thing that it is kind of obvious to most people That they are biting off more than they can chew and chewing as fast as they can And I think that they just need to slow it down a little bit. Not good for your dad As they said Like It's um a lot of people say it's because Game Freak and the behind and the TV show animates plushies. I'm just like That's not an excuse though Mandy you make a good point This is this company makes so much freakin money Is it an excuse that you're juggling all of these things and you can't properly like I don't I don't know I don't know. I agree with you on that Mandy. There is a certain Some self-suffer the most like the anime looks beautiful the plushies are always cute the cards are Anime animated series there was past of the peak there was there was I didn't Pokemon concierge, you know Games are just like Back in the back like yeah, we run and the games are what's pushing all of it too. Like yeah, Mandy Yeah, I agree And I love Pokemon That's what makes it worse because I love it like Pokemon animal crossing those are two of my top faves You can add a couple more But like it's definitely one of my favorite franchises and I hate seeing it suffer like that And this is why we're playing fire over instead of Pokemon I'm in a situation ship with Pokemon because I play it, but then I have problems with it It is a painfully accurate way to describe it. Yeah, no They need tough love no they do and I and I I have a little bit of hope moving forward I mean it could be copium, but because of the I think we talked about this Like this is a while ago that there are there was a rumor that Nintendo is somewhat stepped in at Game Freak and like forcing them to use a different game engine and training new people in game It on Unreal Engine instead of using the the homebrewed game engine that they've used for the longest time So I have hope if that rumor is true assuming that Which was that rumor is solely based on the fact that game freak put up job postings for game freak or Excuse me on real engine on real engine People like experts Engineers, I think that's the word so but anyways Yeah, just but just because the the monster I was describing of of how Pokemon is almost becoming self Fulfilling for failure like it's self set up to fail at this point the games that at least I Agree Mandy. It's not it's not a excuse that it should it's not an excuse to make the games back Especially when that is the thing that started at all and what drives the thing at the end of the day It's just that it's it's either someone a game freak or someone at the Pokemon company Somebody it's along the line. It doesn't give a shit because they they're making oogles and boogles of money regardless of the quality of the game Sadly and whether it's the game devs or it's the corporate side anyways. Yes Sabrina. Good And can I get everybody's opinion on something real quick because this is something that I've thought about but I haven't really gotten anybody's opinion on it yet Do we think at all that the reason that the graphics suffer or the reason that we get these crazy Frame rate drops or this crazy pop-in or all of this is because of the amount of stuff that has to be Programmed into these games like all of the Pokemon all of their movements all of the moves all of the items All of the abilities all of the berries every freaking thing that makes these games as large as they are Do we think that that plays a part as to why they don't end up looking good? Or is that not an excuse? Wondering what y'all I don't think I don't know the answer is but I but something tells me it plays into it I think the answer there is yes and no one because you look at a game like Elden Ring And you're like they pack a whole lot there, but that's also one PS5 Well, I think it goes back to the game engine so the they make their own game engine as far as I'm aware That's one thing with game. They've always made their own game engine They do not whatever and then that's where the unreal engine Discussion came into fact and or it in the play of like oh, they're posting for unreal engine So maybe if since they since they're not building a game engine completely from the ground up and the game That might help a little bit in their Process Again assuming that is what is happening behind closed doors. I do not know what's happening a game freak This is all those are all based on rumors. I would like to Time to talk a little bit about that, right? So there's three different games I have in mind that are Nintendo games, right that show that there's clue that they could They if they if they had the right tech if they had the right team behind it They could make it an amazing Pokemon game, right? So let me talk about each of them real quick, right? So you have tears of the kingdom for example tears of the kingdom massive open world Tons of physics engines in place tons of weather systems in place You can interact with multiple NPCs, right? They can travel alongside you and then engage in battle with an army Join them and fight an army of a coven as explosions everywhere objects moving around all the time, right? Like so there's so many things that are interactive and it can be changed And there's a number of monsters on screen like that's way more demanding than anything the Pokemon does So that's one example. Here's another example. It's a little bit more similar. He's the only Chronicles So the only Chronicles 3 you travel along six different players. You have six different control Yeah, there's actually seven different members, but you have and actually there's even arguably more sometimes But you can control six of them Seamlessly you can switch between them while fighting dozens of enemies at a time There's other enemies all in the overworld that you can see and interact with their basically Pokemon Just like that just I can scarlet and violet and it's a massive massive detailed world that looks leaps and bounds better than Pokemon Right and then here's another example and this is actually a game made in Unreal Engine, right? So if they do go in the Unreal Engine direction, there's some you know pause for thought there and that's Pikmin 4 so Pikmin 4 there's tons of monsters all around the environment the environments are lush environment They're not open world, but they're they're fairly vast But they're extremely detailed and then you can have a hundred Pikmin on top of your dog They're all modeled pretty well like yes, they're small But when you look at the Pokemon models we see in scarlet and violet they're not that extremely complex as it is Right, so I'm not saying we should see be able to see like a hundred ten creatures on screen at a time But if we're talking about seeing five to eight they can definitely be more detailed, right? And so the technology is there on the switch this as you were alluding to this comes more down to Their development structure and having a streamlined and it's just not Yeah, I was gonna say the same thing as Andres like there's games. I've run perfectly fine. I Don't know it's maybe it's Pokemon. I think Well, and then the question I would ask to Andres is all three of those games that you listed What was the development time on those versus the development of? Versus the development time that poke between the Pokemon game each Pokemon game We're in development for an extremely long time Yeah, especially Zelda seven years. You know, Xenoblade had actually a pretty solid quick turnaround Okay. Yeah, but they've had they've had a pretty kick-ass engine that they you know They they took some time to make a chemical sex enhanced at facility to they came out two years later Then they had the DLC in 2018 that took a break that came out with The Xenoblade Chronicles definitive edition that released in what 2020 so there was a one-year break Then we didn't see anything in 2021, but then mid-year, right? Oh, we got Xenoblade Chronicles 3 and then its expansion in 2022, right? So like they take breaks, but you know They yeah, they they come out with their big adventurous games with with a fair bit of frequency Mm-hmm So well, and I'm sorry if my I'm sorry if my question was from a place of ignorance I mean it really is from a place of ignorance. I don't really understand how all of these things work So thank you for No, no, it's not I wouldn't say it's an ignorant question. It's a good question to ask There's a lot of people like well, why can't they do this right? Some people think that the switch can't even like run it like some people look at Scott and by like Oh, the switch has terrible graphics. That's not it's not a switch issue This is a game. Yeah Pokemon issue for sure. Exactly. Yeah, exactly Nick what do you got what do you got to say even say anything in a minute, which you got to say I don't know I'm not a big Pokemon person, but for this specifically I I Do think it's a Pokemon issue. It's not a switch issue because like Andre said All three Xenoblade games are on switch and they run perfectly fine And those are massive games with lots of enemies with lots of players on screen tears of the kingdom is a Technological Marvel like I don't even know how they pulled that off. It's here's a game is insane I that's just that's an anomaly if anything It comes down to how much time they have because I feel like if they had more time They can obviously make it work, but with that schedule you mentioned For both the Pokemon machine to move things around It has to come out on this day at this time so that everything else can subsequently come out on that day on that I Make me nervous like my own show. Um, no Just to clarify though the original schedule for every game is actually set by game freak It's just once it's set. It can't change. This is actually public knowledge. I Former developer Yeah, yeah, they set that schedule, but then it It just became more even I've gotten really into the Pokemon TCG recently and it's become even more Like yeah, I forget she's the late. I'm sorry And it's Like if I like if I tell you right now So like the TCG that we have Pal day and fates coming out and like another month or so And then the next and then I think in like April is the next like full set which is utilizing maybe the rest of Pal day I would say they maybe have enough content from the games to make it through the rest of this year And then if they may if they like did some remakes and they could do like a Pokemon card set based on the remakes But then after that, it's like they need a new generation basically 2020 like late 2025 into 2026 at the earliest Like Gen 10 will be at our doorstep at the earliest 2025 like and that's just insane to save I don't like Wish for Pokemon like if the 10th generation or whatever They should just open up all the regions and that's what we work with no more new regions no more maybe variants but like we have access to all the regions we could finally see a map and Pokemon world of venture. I think I think that that's I think that that's that would be very ambitious But it really would be like the next it would be the breath of the wild for Pokemon if they did do something like that Like that would be massive. That would be really cool. I would love to see that too, Mandy It could even start as something Irritative like they could start as like started out as like, hey, we're just gonna start in Kanto and which is generation I'm like, you know, and then over time And that would give it like momentum to like every year. Oh, hey, Jodo's out now Go back in and play your fair parts of Jodo. Oh, we're adding these events and to happen and can't you know, like I like what they do with Pokemon go. Yeah, DLC They open it to the Unova region with Scarlett and Violet. So they're getting you know used to this whole region swapping thing So hopefully, you know That's a good point. Yeah, they'll just open it up. We're done. We don't have any more regions left And so I mean I feel like at this point It doesn't bother me to bring it up because it's been a few years, but like remember on national decks, right? Oh, Dex. Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, exactly Like I actually you know, I was one of the people that was probably getting hated on because I was like, okay I actually think this is a good thing because oh same need they need to kind of consolidate the resources better, right? And this is one way to do it. The differences between you and I is that I kept my mouth shut during that I wasn't trying to get attacked for I thought it was bad at first. It's totally fine for them to not have every single solitary Pokemon There's so many of them now Like I thought it was perfectly normal and perfectly fine for them not to have every single solitary Pokemon. It It doesn't kind of bum me out that I wouldn't get to play with my favorite Pokemon Sure, but especially if they're introducing new Pokemon like I don't know I always play with the new Pokemon that come out with the generation So it doesn't bother me that much and but I understand where other people are coming from Um, I just me personally I didn't think Dex it was that big a video I didn't think it deserved the the I thought it was bad at first, but Now looking back, it's kind of like yeah, I get it Like I'm even struggling to fill my Pokédex Well at the time as well, we didn't have like we had Pokemon bank on the 3ds. We didn't have Pokemon home yet That's another that was another like argument for it Is like there was no place to consolidate literally every single one of your Pokemon And now the Pokemon home does exist and it can't I mean you can literally pull your Pokemon from Every single game except for like the two really old Game Boy games But I mean you there's like a gap anyways like you can never transfer those up But you that that as long as that exists and there is some place to Have every single Pokemon in that ecosystem then I feel like it's totally fair to not have Um to do it because because then that that doesn't require you to own every single game or to have to own Oh, I need to own btsp So I can have my Turtwig, you know from whatever and then wait to transfer it up to the next game You know three generations down the line or Turtwig is back into the game. You know what I'm saying like but now it's like That was always their plan, right? I just people just don't like putting their faith in Pokemon company, which you know Originally, I think it was their plan, but they didn't really like Vocalize that that was like what the case was they all because all we had was bank on the 3ds And they were everyone was like we don't fucking know what's happening. Um, so yeah anyways But my my my question is do we think that? um Even though we do have home now if dexit were to happen again Would people be just as upset like would be feel Would the outrage be just as high? I don't think it would have how would it happen again because it's like it's already a thing Like like each game. Yeah, like each game doesn't have the full natural It does have But like every time every time they make an announcement like there are always see people in the comments like oh They'll bring back, you know national dex like I always there's always some people that are upset crazy I think it's just like it's just it is what it is, right? But I think where the issues kind of get exacerbated is that So like, you know, I made the argument even back then right as I'm still making now that this is kind of a necessary Change because we see these issues between game to game And yet so we we kind of deal with this right for the people that are very upset about like, okay Well, they did this but the games still suck. So what's the problem, right? So Obviously even more needs to give So now what is that? And and and I don't I have plenty of criticisms about pokemon and I love it I love it to death and back my whole channel is about pokemon regions So like the name is saffron city like my name is saffron city tv It's a situation ship Yeah, but But like at the same time, I also feel like there's also a lot of unwarranted criticism sometimes Like a lot of times it is warranted and a lot of times it isn't warranted So this is really the first time I've even voiced my concerns out, you know Not even on like, yeah, I've voiced my concerns with like my own Like with the regions but like as far as pokemon as a whole Because I just I don't want to become controversial or anything like that Do y'all ever think about that like when y'all Or do y'all just say say what's on your mind and expect the controversy say what's on my mind It's gotten me in trouble, but at least I respectfully respectfully poke a lot of like Especially now posting more consistent youtube pokemon content pokemon fans are A different breed and not in a good way most of the time fans are poison type They uh I don't know my family. I like my I like I like my my little group is pretty nice. They're pretty It's weird. It's like the actual like Like people I mean at tcg the people I've met like at these tournaments these giant mats I think literally the bet they're like the best they are like my closest friends I've ever made I have some of the best times with them. That's not what I mean It just feels like the the The the the the vocal minority is very vocal and very not cool if that makes sense The the majority of the fan base, you know, is chill and doesn't care and is actually very welcoming and very friendly and helpful But yeah, but I mean I want to say something real quick, right? Like I'm yeah, say something about about pokemon fans being toxic, you know Yeah, like I I think all all fan bases are toxic right like every fan base has that has that toxic like vocal minority That are just just respectful. That's exactly what I was about to say. I was about to say but you get that with any Bandraised honestly, but Yeah, no, I um I mean, I think it's just I don't know. I'm very like just say what you mean say what you mean about the games and say which whatever Because I mean like somebody somebody somewhere is going to disagree that you could you could say the most You know normal You know normal take hey waters away You know somebody on you someone on youtube short comments will say No, you're stupid. Give me $50 like, you know well And I certainly don't have a problem doing that with the regions because that's what I cover on my channel Like I don't have any problems ripping a region to shreds if I want to but as far as like talking about it overall I'm sometimes a little bit hesitant. So I've just I appreciate I mean, that's how it is that we have here Because this is the first time I've really ever talked about it and it's nice Yeah, as long as just simple say your piece Normal people would respect your thoughts exactly might say their thoughts, but I'll say that people out there. I'll say that um Well, I I will always encourage speaking your mind. I do think that there is such a thing as the right time and place because Whatever you're gonna say you're entitled to say whatever you want, but so is everyone else Yeah, everybody Exactly, exactly. So, you know, you measure you measure how much you want to deal with that Yeah, exactly So turn off the comments on my youtube videos. Got it Hey, there you go or just mute the notice, but then they'll stop commenting because he never interacted with him That's okay. I know I literally never Turn on child mode no money. Hey no comments Since we're since we're on this topic real quick. I just wanted to say something to Nate specifically So you no don't get a You can ask whatever Anything I I don't want to I don't want to dwell on this too much. Um, I just wanted to just say it real quick You had made a video. I think it was like a week or two ago about like bullying and how like People bully people who play games and I just I just wanted to since I'm since I have you face to face I just wanted to say thank you so much for making that video because like I'm not gonna lie I got choked up watching it because I experienced the same thing And I don't tell my co-workers that I do youtube and that I talk about pokemon I don't tell a lot of my family that I game I don't tell I mean, I've even had friends in the past that never knew that about me because I was so afraid of the criticism or the Knit picking or the poking or the making fun of or the you're too old for that Why are you still doing that like grow the hell up that kind of thing? And I apologize. Sorry for my language um, but Uh, I just I just wanted to say thank you for making it okay. You can swear on my shoe Okay, because I do I cuss like a sailor but I've been watching it. Um, but But yes, I just I just wanted to I just wanted to personally say thank you because that video meant a lot to me um, and I resonate with that a whole lot and Maybe that is why even on my own channel or even in public spaces I'm afraid to share my opinion because I am kind of Afraid of what people are going to say back Sometimes, you know with certain communities And I would say to a certain extent the pokemon community can be pretty critical and can be pretty harsh And but outside of that I'm hesitant to so I just wanted to say thank you for once again For creating an open space for people to have discourse where you know Where people can talk freely and I and and I just wanted to say thank you for making that video Uh-huh, no problem Um See not everyone hates you Nate for making that video There was a lot of funny comments on the video You're always gonna get the the people coming in saying that like you're a grown man Oh, I'm like that's cool. Go tell my kids. I'm a grown man as they're crying in the corner When this is happening the fucking the fucking there's other people involved. It's not just me like it's No, and anyways, yeah, no, you're welcome for that video I don't make videos like that very often, but I had a very serious thing At least it felt serious to me and my kids at the time happened So I just felt appropriate to try to turn it into a positive to let people know like hey This one not okay, but also hey like this space here We try to like get rid of it. It's like one of our big things like we don't you know, don't be an asshole Yeah, and I left your video feeling very much like empowered. I did not leave it feeling sad I just I was just kind of like good Thank you for pointing that out and helping to like de-stigmatize this because it goes a long way Oh for sure. Yeah, like there was this kid who won uh, just Tetris thing and then this lady was just like Downplaying his thing so bad. I was just like Yeah, I missed it told him to touch grass. I'm like, yeah, I mean But to people and he dedicated you know what makes it worse He dedicated that accomplishment the first person in the world to ever do it to his father who recently passed away This newsnaker is on air putting the kid down and the parents seem down. I just Yeah gaming is not Taking us seriously as other things it should And we're getting there. Yeah No, I want to say anything if you were to marathoned a movie series or something or a tv show For a book really yeah I'm just saying a lot of the people because I've experienced this in my own life a lot of people Say things about playing video games and they're like, why would you watch somebody play video games for hours on end? Like why would you do that? And I'm like, why do you watch people play football on tv? Why do you watch people redesign houses on hg tv? Everyone has their own thing. Just why you watch two low lives go to court And debate whose baby it is exactly Why does it there's people who make lines for those stanley cups or something? I don't understand it, but that's their thing. Yeah, I wouldn't mind you with your free time And it's not hurting anybody. I'm not I'm not gonna stop you Um I've been holding in for a moment. What are you doing? It's just one of those things, right? I don't know how deep I should get go go deep I just think I just think right That It all it all comes down to how you perceive life, right? Like there are people who think this is a simulation and if you think this is a simulation Well, guess what video games are a simulation. So why does it even matter? Right? Like like it doesn't even matter Like you do what makes you happy for not hurting others It doesn't matter and then some people I think are always trying to like validate themselves and Try to find meaning in life and I I'm all for finding meaning in life, right? Like I'm all for that stuff, but I'd argue that, you know, you can find meaning in all different ways of life, right? Like Something that I that I think we don't necessarily like take into account, right? Like being able to play video games We're basically we basically have the ability to jump into a whole bunch of different like universes and experience an entire adventure Right like imagine explaining video games to someone a thousand years ago You get to be the protagonist You get to be the protagonist in the book Like you get to actually be them you get to experience that firsthand. I think video games are amazing Mm-hmm Agreed No, you're fine. I think you can real time most most of the stream actually Yeah, I once I once made a comment to my this is probably the most amount of bullying I've ever received In terms of being someone who plays video games. Like I've never been looked at Uh, I don't know. I'm very privileged in that fact that I haven't been bullied all too much through my life Uh, or at least I've never been like judged the only time I can remember I've ever been judged like one time I brought up to my aunts who are very nerdy and very like You know based I would at least I would say most of the time I said that I would say arguably video games can could rival like rival books as a media Like I was like it's it I would argue in some aspects can be better if not they are and they Scoffed at me. They were like, no What do you mean? I'm just like I didn't say they're always I just was saying they could you know Like I think there are very I feel like it's a it's the best of both worlds You have the agency of you know, like like a book is a very personal intimate experience Versus a movie which is like you're experiencing something else from like it from a third person perspective And I feel like video games you can have the best of both of those things You can have a very intimate experience with a video game and be immersed in that world and be totally You know while at the same time experiencing somebody else's vision and somebody else's story That they intended for you to but you also have Exactly have the ability to kind of Make your own area, right? Yeah And so and then and then there's also Games are a little bit on the spectrum because there are things left up for imagination, right? And so you can make the argument when you're reading a book Yes, I'm reading objective words made by one writer But how you piece that together in your head as you're reading it That's kind of making you're kind of making of it what you will right and so when you're playing a game Yeah, I mean obviously some things are scripted But you can choose to move out in certain ways some games you can do things out of order like tears of the kingdom for example Right, I mean that game they they tout it's like a game the advanced an adventure that's that's crafted by your own imagination, right? But also a lot of games that leave things up for interpretation That's where you can fill in the gaps yourself, right? It's very much like a book or a movie in that way So, you know, yeah, I agree um While we're talking just real quick while we're talking about good things happening as far as like the As far as like the gaming Community as a whole is changing for the better because I really do think the gaming is becoming more acceptable now Um, I just really do think that yeah, it is becoming more mainstream It is becoming less frowned upon Though there are still some outliers that will still judge people who game I really do think that that's that occurs a lot less now than it did say in like the early 2000s um And then in the other thing like females in the gaming space I was really excited when I saw that there was going to be another lady in here. I'm like, yes lady gamers. Hell, yeah Yeah, that's my name behind a girl. I make sure you invite two or three Yeah, like I bring the where the bitch is it? I'll bring more stream streamer women on on the pod Nate if you want. Um, yeah, you're more than welcome to men I only know like still limited like jake got her. I've no mandi for a while um, but like I I I kind of live in a bubble and so I don't meet even other youtubers Oh, yeah, everybody's in their own like content How'd you guys be like become people who come on the show? I put up a tweet and you guys just how to do a tweet I won't be looking for a podcast. Yes, but that was it. Say Iran pointed me this direction. That's what happened. I remember I mean the other thing though, right like I look at my demographics, right and it ranges depending on you know, what's trending at the time, right? But between 85 and 95 percent of my demographics is male, right? So, yeah, at least based off what like in terms of who what people watch my content There are as many girls like there are obviously that 10 to 15 percent, but I don't know that just that at least they're just not as many girls that like watching Nintendo Prime and Andres restart. I guess I don't we got to have paul gill network on our podcast taking this shirt off every stream And then I'm curious to know mandi. What do your demographics look like is it mostly male or do you have a pretty decent mix or It's mostly male. Um I got a higher female like around 25 Could be around 35. Good. That's pretty good. I'm at like less than 10 percent So hopefully I can You understand you understand the issue right like a new girl like it's it's I think Well, I mean I mean it may come part of me come down to like, you know social stigma, right? Like you just said you don't even like talking about Like like video games to other people because you're worried about what they're going to think of you, right? Like there are some girls that probably don't even give video games to try for that reason, right? And then of course there are girls that will play games that doesn't mean they'll watch videos about games, right? So there's there's tears to this and then there are also the girls that end up just being the freaking Person that sits on the couch and watches the significant other play the games And doesn't ever actually get to play them and then by the time that they have the opportunity to play the game They're not interested anymore because they already know what's going to happen You know, there's a lot of situations like that where you know And I just think that there is more ladies getting into the gaming space And I'm excited for that like that's becoming less stigmatized And I think that it's cool because I you know, I've experienced People in the past being like oh, well you play Animal Crossing. That's not even a real game like Oh It's such a bad arena it is but I don't think you have to have a point though Oh Animal Crossing is a game Sorry Jake, I like you, but Vistacuffs coming out You're okay, it's okay. Do we consider Sims a video game? Yeah And it seems as a I still play it once in a while. Oh, yeah, they both are definitely video games But like but like whenever I say that I play games like spirit fair and people are like Oh, is that is that even like that? What do you do in it? Like that's not even a real game Go watch a trailer. Holy god That's a very good game spirit fair is one of my favorites These are like movies and shows now like there's so many different types. There's so many You know what I mean like yeah, and now like movie and something's not it's like the same thing It's like and there and there's so many guys now that Unashamedly admit that they love Animal Crossing and I'm like, yes Thank you Like gaming of all kinds is becoming more popular and more mainstream and cozy gaming Yes cozy gaming give me more stardew valley. I want to see more stuff like that, you know like Um, but but yeah, so that that makes me happy I'm glad to see that gaming is going in that direction because I feel a lot more welcome now, you know That's good. Sorry. Yeah, definitely. Sorry if I went on to not apologize. No, no Nate goes on for longer tangents all the time. So We appreciate it. I can relate to that though. So Yeah, I'm sorry. I just A lot of people say they're scared of telling people They're playing video games. I'm gonna shut up about video games. So You don't want to be like I want I want to grow up to be like Mandy Um Now what a girl But she's she's like eight feet. I think all of girl Well minus girl part but you know Bounty hunting the universe killing giant monsters. That's a life Yeah Yeah So we're ready to move on to the next topic or do we want to continue to debate reality? Yeah All right, all right, all right Get to our next topic. Uh, so nintendo Uh, reportedly is doing some very interesting stuff here as we're heading into this next generation and this comes from Uh, gaming journalist christopher dring. You guys might recognize him the most because he's always given all the uk sales updates He's doing that every single week But he works at game industry.biz and he put up an article about how can nintendo switch to surpass The predecessor and all that but hidden in that article is a nice big old paragraph where he talks about Hey, I actually have sources telling me nintendo is doing some crazy partnership stuff One, they're talking to a lot of indie developers right now to publish their games Nothing new nintendo has been obviously doing that, you know, you look at golf story and sports story and The cadence of high rule and all that like they've been they've been publishing a number of indie games box boy but They're also apparently in deep conversations with three particular studios about working directly on nintendo ip And that's also not new for nintendo, but these are new studios. This is like noon This isn't like ones. They're already working with so they're already working with a bunch Just I threw some examples in the dock just to maybe catch the audience up like platinum games Obviously, we know they work with bayonetta astral chain wonderful one-on-one. I think they work on starfox 4 Yeah, sadly starfox zero Mercury steam look we just say metro dread. I mean come on That's the most popular game ever released in spain. So It's the most popular metro game ever released in terms of sales For now for now Obviously band and apco they work with with smash bros and other stuff coey tecmo I hope the fire emblems slash hyrule warriors all the warrior combo games there You have camo lot doing all the sports games intelligent systems with fire emblem Ubi stop with maria plus rabbits and obviously other things they've helped with grezzo I mean look the list of stuff grezzo has done too long. I didn't put everything down links awakening rematch All this hell of stuff They've actually done more than just zelda stuff for nintendo But links awakening remake that 2019 release that was them ocarina time of George mass 3d. That was them triforce heroes That was them. Meetopia. Yeah, that's so like A lot that so the point is that nintendo is in deep conversations reportedly from a reputable journalist With three companies to work directly on nintendo ip unnamed companies unnamed companies He didn't name who they are. He knows who they are, but he's not naming them. Do we know if they're big or small? There's He wouldn't indicate That so he's really leaving it like hey, I might want to out people But he knows that it's a deep conversation. So one of them one of them is push moe and other ones dylan rolling Yeah, i'm sure i'm sure that's what it is HD i'm sure i'm sure that's what it is. Hey, i'll take a star tropics hg. Yeah anyways, uh 2d what companies do we want nintendo to partner with and what ip's do we want them to work on? Pretty fun conversation except it's like a real thing because nintendo's doing it you know personally i think I think uh Yacht club games would do a pretty sick zelda crossover like a shovel knight s game, but it's actually zelda or they could do a um What's it called zelda to remake? Because I love shovel knight. I thought shovel knight was pretty cool. And that that was the first one that came off the top of my head nice um, so one for me right is um an nintendo, I mean it tells what i've been working with ubisoft right but um establish a team nintendo it's a collaborative effort right so key nintendo uh members and a key team from ubisoft together Building off the star link engine make a new star fox game Like imagine star link, which is an open world game where you can fly seamlessly from space into planets, right? And like they had the star fox like content in there and it was really cool but um, you know a lot of ubisoft games they kind of suffer from Um, I'm sure some some people disagree, but I know this is like a common sentiment like They can seem a little redundant, right? Um, and especially with star link there There's a little there's a lot of redundancy there It would be cool if they brought some key nintendo members, right? And they really kind of like honed in maybe it's like a smaller world But it's more in depth right as like it's basically the lilat system So you explore that in full, you know, you integrate like a an ongoing multiplayer that has kind of like That that real time like war that's going on So if you go back to star fox one two like there's like a war that's going on across the map And when you play star link that's already happening in the game already So it's like it feels very star fox, but just make it full on star fox And I think that would be really cool. Like if they actually focused on that I would it would be the stuff of the dreams You guys are I want to see them uh work with square enix more after they You know remade super mario rpg I'd love to see pretty much any nintendo franchise get like a turn-based rpg just like a fun offsuit or They take nintendo characters and like do something like kingdom hearts like when square Yeah, that would be cool. That would be fun a lot of cool possibilities Sorry, it's interesting though because sore Right, so it's kind of true. It's true. So the next match is an enix mine is absolutely just But Characters instead of disney you go to like you go to like you go to high rule you go to that would be awesome Mario lincoln's nintendo square it could happen I'll be awesome I could bring out more. I got another one. I got another one locked and loaded. He's never got it. Just go I mean Okay You're gonna have to hear me out on this one. It would be a completely new venture for nintendo untouched Ground for them new genre But and I think this would go over really well if you put the right characters in it I think nintendo should partner with team salvado and make a nintendo visual novel dating sim Holy cow you can go in all the different nintendo characters First game A lot of people would like that a lot of people would like that If they made a visual novel for zelda that connected the timelines and let you choose as link whether to date No, this because it's only zelda who else I mean, there you go. I don't know I'm good with the visual novel. I don't I'm not good with the nintendo characters, but hey, it's still a good idea I don't want to think about the the madness of like Dating like Like dating mario. That would be that would be kind of weird. Don't you think like yeah, maybe that's what piece I want to date mario But then it has a dark twist, okay, um, the dark twist is that peach is actually dead Is this in honor of game theory? Yeah, of course Oh, yeah Put that shout out the map pad. Thanks for all the years, man. Yeah He's behind the scenes now. Yep. Yeah, he's not actually leaning them. He's just not gonna host for the front post He's just not the main face of it anymore. I'm happy to retire like at 30. How old is 37? Yeah I mean retire. I'm just like Shouldn't you be older? But he's not really retiring though. He's working. Yeah. He's changing a different role. That's a lot less hours Yeah, he's basically becoming the Miyamoto Game theory pretty much And if he has like a creative idea, he's gonna still throw it out there for a video to be made. He just won't be the one hosting it So yeah, yeah, I also feel like you might still see him like Very occasionally you'll see him once in a while live Even the last few years he's not in the videos. It's just like little cut out of his face Yeah, well, yeah with his voice. So it's kind of like yeah Um I got one. All right, you go So you guys know i'm gonna go zelda right like this. It just is what it is. I know we get a lot of zeldas Um, but this is what no one's ever gonna say because here's the thing I know like they're like, oh, we're not gonna go back. We're not gonna do whatever But I think top-down zelda still got some legs Okay, I still I still think it does and I know I mean It makes a lot of sense for grezzo to do stuff But I think grezzo kind of focusing on remaking remastering games So let's get a company working exclusively or semi exclusively they can make their own games obviously as well On top-down zeldas. What about castle pixel the developers of blossom tails Um, I don't like blossom tails. That's a thing No I like tunic that one Has a lot of zelda inspiration has some zelda inspiration to tunic. Yeah, yeah I mean it's it's it's linkin as a fox Right basically different perspective like the camera perspective. Where does tunic fit on the zelda timeline? Geez I got shut down. It's okay A lot of my zelda timeline is a myth I want to throw I want to throw something out that phavelam might get down with I would like I would like to see them put the um pokemon card game on nintendo switch I would like that would be kind of cool They can easily do it because the there's the um the tcg live app that works on like mobile and works on like the computer You can easily It sucks. They changed over the last year. Don't don't get me wrong. The app Took away the pcg online, which was awesome. So if I'm being honest, I haven't I haven't messed with the new one yet. If I'm being honest, I haven't messed with the new one yet It's been a little while I'm climbing the ladder and there's times where the yeah where like I will place 30 seconds and you can't card to the center Like that and also big times where you just straight up can't select cards There's sometimes cards do unintended things. Sometimes they doesn't follow the rules Tend to apologize you know on behalf of the pokemon company again. Yeah, exactly. So The tcg online where you just like skating your qr codes. Yeah. Yeah, that was the best They still have that to be fair The qr code thing is still there don't to be fair, but it's all it's completely different thing Like it's a different it is. No, you're right. It is a completely different thing and it's all wrapped up in the in the in the Yeah, I would like to see a new version of that. That's better than that come to this way. Yeah Now the old one was kind of dated so to me I was excited for an update like it made sense But it was so much more fun than the garbage that they put out. They need to they need to do that again They've they messed that up I got one Okay, humbled the bag so There's a there's a developer that's become very popular over the last After I had last this generation and they've actually you know, they've worked with different companies and they've been very successful Trying out slightly different things, but kind of like a similar sort of core essence and that's from software From software the soulsboard creators, right? Like they they made an armored core game, right? like they From software is all the game. It seems like an obvious choice, but here's another alternative from software Yes, yes Eldridge horror like there are some enemies in that game and I'm like, what the hell like yeah, I'm not saying you would be like gruesome right because it's kid Icarus, but Maybe it enters like the team category, right where it's a little bit of a yeah somewhere in between Hey, man People that have played at a grown-ups, baby a mortal is rising Phoenix immortal Made that a kid Icarus game, but it was too much like breath the wild It wasn't as fun as I like the comedy in the story that was really good Yeah, it was it's one of those games where you would normally never play it But because it was one of the few like new games when the console generation switched You give it a chance once you switch the game like that for nintendo switch for me It was I wanted to play more breath of the wild and Okay It was there in that downtime man when we were I'm sad that they got cancelled. They're not making a sequel. Yeah, I agree. Well, it's a really fun game You know speaking of a breath of that like you mentioned Similar to breath of the wild made me think about genshin impact and I feel like I don't I don't know what ip they could do But you're a galley with that drug galley Make that more mainstream make a more genshin impact Did you play the galley of lost galley of lost? No, right? So it sucks it's gone now. It's a it's a it's a it's a nintendo exclusive mobile game And it's actually it was actually really cool. I didn't even know that it was a thing You should look at it. I don't know if you can still download it. No, no the end of it. Yeah Sad look up a video it has literally like the best mobile game nintendo's ever put out Yeah, I think I think they wanted to Turn it into something But you know, I think they can if they bring something like that to the next platform If they take nix idea and then you know, they get the genshin impact developers and dude genshin makes so much money I don't know why nintendo wouldn't jump on that Because genshin they rip their shit originally I'm just kidding That's what is happening right now. Genshin is its own thing. I'm kidding I just remember that when like when genshin very first came out everyone was like it's just anime You know why oh, you know Mandy, do you hate Mandy? Do you hate from software games? I'm only asking because I see jesny ghee saying Mandy died on the inside once from software was mentioned I'm not a fan of their souls games and that's basically what they are known for so bread and butter. I have some History with us. Okay. Yeah Well, when they make the kid at risk game, I'm sure you'll fall in love with it Hopefully it's not or she's gonna make up. Here's my honest review of kidding. This is the worst Gaming experience in my From software they should have got sakurai back and this is a hypothetical and it still hurts me You know, you know, it would be a fun one probably would never happen But if um, you know how they made streets of rage 4 If they let donkey kong out to that and they made a donkey kong like beat him up Okay I kind of yeah, you throw like barrels like it kind of works too. No, it would work. You know, I as like a small You can have his like smash moves in there Eric Oh Right, you can make it feel like like TMNT almost right. You got did it Yeah Shut up. No, Eric's got a couple I don't want one one. We've are you know, and I tend to already partners with um next level Only on next level. So See what I know whatever I I don't game. So We all know that but you know, it here's one that you know, I'd like to see kind of Just to see the trailers that they put out the volver digital I'm just for the trailers for the trailers alone. The trailers are pretty epic You ever watched the devolver digital director every summer But it's it's literally the goat of presentations in the summer. I'm not saying It's amazing dude. They should do the game awards. They are the most entertaining. Oh my gosh Yes, they will fix everything wrong with the game awards by making fun of the game awards Devolver digital one game of the year every year, but other than that like No, honestly, I trust them they would be good Like a cult of lambs type of Dude katana zero is one of my top 10 switch games of all time My friend Pedro was really fun too, but katana zero was Yeah, so many really good That would that would make sense for like a nice indie collab on something I mean remember they did the cadence of Hyrule thing so like Obviously, they can they can It seems like they're more willing to do stuff like As long as they feel like it'll be a quality quality experience. That's all they seem to care about Yeah, and the other thing with Nintendo is they don't want to lend out to any genres That compete with something they already have You know what? I mean, they don't have a game like Hyrule Warriors that they do they don't have like a rhythm In cadence of Hyrule no, I think I think there is something to what you're saying there, right? Like I can't think of an example Or they they lend out Mario for rabbits because they don't have an srpg It's I mean fire emblem, but not like within the Mario I consider the Mario gets like it's all its own things like it's different enough Like they're not exactly the same, you know, hmm Yeah, I mean what could what would Nintendo what would Nintendo be afraid to do? Can you an example like oh they wouldn't um f0 to compete with Mario Kart even though it's their own thing? No, I disagree. I don't But they did that already. I literally did that radio. They they worked to say go to make f0 gx Yeah, 20 years ago We're gonna bring up that's like a whole lifetime ago. Yeah, but they also made f0.99 That's The point you're trying to make is that Nintendo is not going to make another racing game Have they Not recently I'm playing a long time But we'll take a wave race diddy kong I don't know but Are so different Mario carts I agree. I think it's stupid. It's just a pattern. I've noticed I I don't Can't do f0 unless we have some new crazy idea or let me know I understand why you think that and I think While there may be like there's something to I don't think that's why I don't think the reason it didn't have to do that. I did mention excitement came out into those I think it might be A part and a bigger part than you think but I don't think it's the only reason I mean they remade what diddy kong racing on what ds Um, I guess I'm trying to like race 15 years. I'm dude last decade like It's that's what I'm saying. That's a long time for them to not do any of that I don't know. I'm just gonna say f0.99 because it is a racing game technically Not even technically it legitimately is I mean, it's it is a racing game. They could have picked something else They could have exiled their animal crossing. They picked f0. They could have won excite bike something with that Which is also technically a racing game also a technique also as your gx remastered is rumored, right? So Yeah, but that's a remaster not new, you know, I mean, it's kind of about you start somewhere Are they gonna really make something new? I mean technically Mario Kart 8's not new right Is just kind of the same game with the different anyway But anyway, but the thing is though It's an interesting point to be made because the last time we had a new Mario Kart was 2014, buddy Guess what year is it? It is 2024. So every time you counter one of my my one of my suggestions. Well, that was 10 years ago Well, guess what? That is new Mario Kart with 10 years ago I think I'm just saying maybe the most ever green Nintendo game in history They want Splatoon to be their shooter They're not going to make more than of these types of games because they don't want to make a metro prime They made a deal for call of duty so they get their military shooter in Yeah I want to see a Nintendo military shooter with Nintendo characters If Sonic can give shadow the hedgehog that fucking thing then they can give they can totally give Waluigi that I do have a I have one more counter argument Yoshi and Kirby are very similar Oh A crossover between Yoshi and Kirby would go real hard. Oh my god. I'm talking about side scrolling Kirby and Yoshi. They're both Huh, what do they do with the new Kirby game made a 3d? Sure, but we still have a long history of recent Kirby games So what do they do? They make Kirby even more interesting It's the best ever. I'll I'm just They think I would say they're pretty different, but I mean similar to more they're they're way more similar than f0 and Mario Kart Okay, they are way more similar f0 like I mean, they're just different like I'm not even I'm just talking about from the from genre. They're both casual One shoot one shoot side scrollers, right? Like that's what they are F0 is not a casual light-hearted racer. It Mario Kart is a kart is a party kart racer I think But I just said Nintendo thinks that I think they just haven't made enough zero because they haven't come up with an idea They think is worth just remember jake has not lost a bet yet. So don't turn this into something. Yeah, but he hasn't made any bets with me I made bad bets I mean come on man, we all we all knew switch to was like there's always a chance But we we knew the likelihood that it was Hey, tears of the kingdom one game of the year at kind of funny games today I'll take that as a dub even though I still have to wear the face. I'm doing Jason Tatum jersey Sorry, I didn't want to say his name At least it's not as bad jersey Imagine you made you wear like drew holidays jersey I had oh actually that would be a better Well because he used to play for these to play for the bucks. He won a title with us. I love That would be That would have been fun. Anyway, you should have done that Can we change that? People wondering when that bet's happening because there's a double bet there that jake didn't get to me Have you bought the Tatum jersey yet? No, it's at end of the month when my paycheck comes Yeah, I found where I'm gonna go is let's try to Jake is it possible that you can change it so he has to wear a drew holiday bucks Not bucks boston jersey. Come on. Think about the emotion No, I don't want to waste his money completely. Let him have let him get the Tatum All right, see that's the lack of respect boston fans happer drew. I wouldn't even mind No, I love drew but it's as opposed to a jersey Tatum better Oh a lot Okay, look at the mercy. Yeah, let me redeem myself. Let me know when he wins an mvp someday Um, let me redeem our titles a title even by the way, it's hard to even make a bet What what are we gonna say? Oh, well, they how will we make a bet? Do you want to make a bet the nintendo comes out with another nintendo racer in the next two years? That's a long bet But you're trying to get into the next generation. I see what you're doing like Yeah, I don't know Master And he's trying to make a bet with you he wants to bet you so bad Right, but he's also He's trying to put me into like a not an advantageous position right now. So yeah, that's not fair That's not it. It's just that I don't want to make a bet that's gonna like take two years Sure, but yeah, so this our argument we're having it probably will take more than two years to like really see through Let's visit. Let's touch back Long and gone and we're all Well, what's gonna happen is that next month the tone is gonna is gonna announce And it's gonna have you content and online play There you go, there's your bet next month you said You're still You know what? All right, you know what? Get teed it up I'm thinking it's okay if you're not confident Oh There's no shame in losing to the master It's not a fair bet Flip a coin 50 50 You don't know what's going on So and technically f0gx has been rumored at least so this is what this is what i'm willing to bet I'm willing to bet that we will get another nintendo racer Within a year of the announcement of the next mario kart That's still like three years Well, okay, the thing is I expect them does the new mario kart to be announced this year Okay Let's take it out then Let's take that you think the new f0gx will be announced this year Uh I think I think the thing is until sits on these things, right? So that's the problem Right, I mean that that's but too late now, but the thing is jake wouldn't count f0 99 I don't yeah, I don't I'm talking about a game Do you spend money to access it? What counts I need any any 3d racer This would be x remastered. I wouldn't count. I wouldn't count a remaster. It would have to be a new a new thing Well, if it has new content, but just a new game. What if what if it has new content? I don't even think I'll do it Well, I would say My 99 still counts. He's basically setting it up impossible to lose but 99 is literally a port of a super nintendo game with Well, that's the thing like it is but it's still new like it's not a fair bet It's just a new experience. I would say That's me And here and here's how ridiculous it is, right? We haven't got a new mark hark since 2014. So to ask me So it's it's almost unfair to even bet on mark are being announced in a year. It probably will be but like Okay, it's always your statement. I wasn't I wasn't forcing you Basically, it's just not fair to make a better one. Do you just present a bet? Mario Kart being announced this year and see if So basically you have not the confidence to go against anything I've said for the next year All you had to say was what have you said for the next year? I haven't said anything. All you said is that nothing's gonna happen I'll just stop taking the bait stop taking the bait buddy. You I've already gone down this rabbit hole You you said yourself. I let me clarify Mario Kart the new Mario Kart will be announced this year And now you're saying I didn't say that though. You said that I say, I mean, I do think I don't have to get you into a room Okay, I do think it will and then you said within the same year the next Mario Kart is announced Look, there's a motel. I said within a year a few miles this direction. I'll get you guys a room Like you can sort of mean even a year after I'll pay the deposit 2025. Yeah, I don't want to see that's the thing. I don't want to go two years three years I think there's a real deal happening here really annoying and you're not getting my money, buddy. Sorry When you all right, so we won't do any of the like the four bets that you proposed and then backed out of And yeah, because you're not willing to do anything within a year. Well, no, we made a bet and you said didn't count We know I didn't want you talking about you did you said f0jx remastered with new content would not count Yeah, I I'm talking about a new game. Also Which is technically an example of a new racer that's not Mario Kart doesn't count and that came out just a few months ago Yeah Yeah, because he added the caveat it's gotta be a 3d racer and blah blah blah Yeah, and the reason I make that caveat is because it's a racer that Nintendo sees as a competitor to Mario Kart and I don't think Any other Nintendo game is more of a competitor to Mario Kart than f099 As in it would it would potentially take away sales from it because they would buy that over Mario No, nothing's gonna take away sales from it No, I know I'm just saying that's how I'm trying to make a point of how insignificant f099 is to that Here's my actual problem, right? Like here's my actual problem We can make a bet about what happens this year But what happens this year doesn't really tell us the answer to our debate our debate is Doesn't Nintendo care enough to make other racers because you know in case they might compete with Mario Kart, right? And I don't think that they care that much. I think they can all differentiate themselves But I don't think we're gonna get that clear answer within a year Because I mean well, we might but we also might not we've been waiting again The last time we got a new Mario Kart was 2014 Right. So like this whole argument about oh, they only make Mario Kart games They haven't made a brand new full on Mario Kart since 2014. I can argue against that Mario Kart tour Mario Kart home circuit I wouldn't argue home circuit, but I could definitely see the tour argument Why a home circuit is just an AR game Yeah, but also it's not like they haven't released Mario Kart Yeah, it's not the same as like Mario Kart 8 No, no It's not like they haven't released new Mario Kart because they've given up on the franchise and just let it sit and rot Like they did with f0. It's because it continues to be a number one seller So there's no incentive for them to do the next thing yet And there's also no incentive for them to release a different type of racer They get all the sales they want through that I mean like you can see the fact that they just created momentum with f0.99 to bring out another f0 I could see them bringing like a um like a remaster of Gx, but I don't see them doing a a new from the ground up Um, what f0? Why what's the difference? I will I will bet you $500 that in the entire Switch too that they don't come out with a new He's going a whole like like a decade long lifespan. He's he's betting right now. I mean, that's how confident he is Remember that bet You want to bet I'm gonna put it on the whiteboard. It'll sit on my whiteboard for the next decade. Yep All right, y'all well whenever y'all decide to make this bet I definitely want to know about it, but unfortunately I got a hard stop. So I got to get Oh, that's okay. That's okay. Sabrina. Thanks a lot everyone know What you got going on and where they can find you and we'll drop a link in the chat to your chat Awesome. My yeah, my name is Sabrina. I'm my channel name is saffron city tv I make region videos about pokemon. I specifically talk about the world building. So if you're interested in stuff like that Um, go check me out. You might like what you find and uh, thank you guys so much for inviting me on This was a ton of fun and and I really enjoyed it and it was really nice to meet all of y'all Yeah, well, I'm gonna get some time. It was nice having you. Yeah All right. Well, I'll see y'all later back um, what's it called uh Let's to make it have an end date. Let's just say 2032 not announced. So if it's announced by 2032 You always did Or just another non or non maricart nintendo racer that's released. I was talking about f zero. That's literally what I said Oh, man, that's how you doing mandy. You having fun over there? I'm good. I'm seeing how this is watching this debate back and forth Here's the thing. I just takes me back to like a month ago when it was me and jake. So I could argue that Nintendo has released a racer on switch that is theirs If if you want to get really technical Did they not publish that disney racer? They did and That's a Nintendo game zero like four guys. I don't know Mickey mouse is in the game. Mickey mouse is in kingdom hearts Sora is in smash bros smash bros is a nintendo published game. So therefore disney speedstorm is a nintendo game No, i'm talking nintendo ip s It's published on nintendo though. They invested in that product and it's straight up like a kart racer, right? Yeah, but it's good. You're completely shifting the goalposts. No, there's no Use that competitor. Use that competitor or mario car. I won't disagree with you But I they invested if they publish the title that I offered How wait, how is it moving the goalpost? Your argument is is nintendo won't won't fund any sort of other Yeah, I didn't see that's not what I said What is your what is what you're gonna? Okay. Let's give you an opportunity very clear release any genre That's a genre they already have and part of that is a 3d what's seen as an equal competitor to mario kart Okay, with their own ip Publishing something doesn't doesn't mean like oh since we're allowing like they allow all kinds of kart racers and racers Just because they publish one of them is a little different because they're funding the game Right Is your Paying for a game to exist that competes with your game What's the difference is your point that they it's not significant enough. That's not a competitor Well, just because it didn't sell as well doesn't mean that it wasn't intended to be a it's literally a kart racer With items that you shoot at people. What are we talking about? They know with the f0 name they know that people will get so excited for that That it would it could potentially pull sales from mario kart Which is how f0's never been that big of a seller it they wouldn't even think that it's a competitor It would be a huge. I don't know. I don't I just I think they wanted and then you look at But then what about pokemon pokemon has a game every year and they sometimes more and that's different pokemon's not nintendo I mean, but it literally is though It's it's 40. It is but it doesn't yeah, it's like yeah Nintendo partially owns pokemon Yes, but they don't call the shots Sure, but are you gonna down are you gonna say you're insane? To be fair to be fair They don't nintendo doesn't call the shots because they help Co-found the pokemon company to call the shots, which they technically also partially own they also partially own game freak They also literally own the entire ip itself. It's nintendo's trademarks. They actually only pokemon's ip writes specifically so But let's talk about another example though, right? So we have zeno blade, right? We have fire emblem We have the paper mario series. Those are all rpgs. Also, where would pokemon be a sechura awana didn't get involved who was Those are very different types of rpgs and so is that zero for mario kart Not the same one. That's that's less of a difference though because you're going from Pokemon and fire emblem, which are turn based to zeno blade, which is real time So that's already a different type of arpeggio mario is turn based Well, yeah, that's why I love s rpg Paper mario is not turn based paper mario They went out of their way to ruin a good thing because they didn't want it to be turn based. I mean Weird complicated Proves my point even more. Thank you so much for bringing up what they did with paper mario They had an overlap So they felt like one of the franchises need to go away from the turn based So they kept mario luigi which then But then I and then they they destroyed paper mario because they literally just Just remastered a game that has turn based combat Yes, finally now because mario luigi studio went out of business But I just I don't I just don't I don't I don't see it Your point is that nintendo doesn't want to double dip in something that they already have right exactly Not like one-to-one overlap on a certain john. Why do they have so many platformers as zero wouldn't be a one-to-one overlap Platformers are an exception. I'll give you that I was gonna be like literally they got a billion platformers And also they've made what they had three world plus bowser's fury and mario odyssey They had mario maker two and use and use and use mario luigi deluxe come out within six months of each other Yeah, I just said platformers were the exception Okay, but it's a different Okay, so I don't that that's so weird, but and then so now rpgs don't count. I don't I don't think What I don't understand is why you think that s zero mario car are similar more similar than The four different rpg series that nintendo has Because I I don't I don't think zero doesn't even have the same mechanics between rpgs as well If zero doesn't you have the same mechanics as mario card Like that's a completely different rate As you have racers like the aesthetics completely different the speed is completely different That zero has combat mechanics like They're not the same thing as there are stories. I never like yeah I never said they were the same thing Sure, and I never I never said I think you're gonna let me talk I never said I think they shouldn't make one I said I don't think they will Because they don't want to have another racer no matter how different than mario Right. So that's what I said. I understand stop saying I said stop saying I said they shouldn't make f zero Stop saying I understand. I understand. First of all, I'm not I don't much. I'm I think you're missing turn now I see what a saffron left Let me make sure that I understand what you're saying. So what you were what you're trying to say is that All these top corners zero, right? Which is but what you're saying though is that nintendo Does not want to risk bastardizing their evergreen mario kart sales by putting out an f zero I'm not I don't think they think it's bastardizing. I think they just like having one game per genre with the exception of platformers Okay, a couple overlaps, but with how much mario kart sells for them. I do think they just want to have one racing game Sure. Okay. All right. So we're on the same page. Um, yeah, okay, then let me ask you right So you're you're saying platformers are the exception 3d and 2d because we have examples of yeah But and and so and then I bring up rpgs. They have several rpg series And you see I think you're undervaluing how different in s rpg a turn-based But they also have mario rabbits Which they yes, that's s rpg. But right mario can sometimes duplicate in genres It does it already nintendo has rpgs and they have mario rpgs. They have you know They have different kinds of games, but then they'll have a mario version mario's like the one Nintendo ip that gets like one of every genre Even if they already have it Okay, then what about zelda breath wants you to the kingdom That's a sequel. I feel like that's different. How Because because it's a sequel like you're not yeah, they're both zelda games They've waited until it runs after we talk about at least the next one. I just but so then I'm throwing this up right now. I don't know any for he's paying five dollars He just wants 10 seconds of silence All right, andre we can come back on this next week too and refine it more Can't even get to 10 seconds All right for 10 seconds. Yeah, hold on. Hey, siri set a timer for 10 seconds. I already got it. I got it right here That's been it's been like 20 seconds. Take that. What it comes. No. No, it was like literally exactly Yeah, that was exactly 10. Yeah, so Here's saying just just take the L on us and restart. Well, first of all, I'm not wrong This is what happens How can you say how can I don't see how I honestly just don't see how you can say paper mario Xenoblade fire emblem and pokemon all very different rpgs Are somehow like that that's okay But as zero and and mario we'll get to the fan topics eventually guys I mean, I've said it four times. So I don't know how to say it again literally I think we've only had two topics. Is this what it's like to be on the other side of one of these I love it. I don't it doesn't make any sense I'm bringing popcorn next time. Okay. That's why Yes, they're very different but you don't understand my point. It's still my point. Happy new year everyone I don't see how Right, and then you say mario mario is the exception. So now pokemons also the exception Pokemon company They could do to release different warrior style games, right? Wait, wait, wait, how many how many monster collector rpgs do they have? Oh, yeah one, okay But it's still an rpg Right, but it's it's the but there's different years for the rpgs Right, and so there's different tears I've said that yes, okay, but if they're gonna only release games that are different Why did they do you want me to answer? I'll answer Yes, I think there's different tears to racing games too But I think nintendo not me nintendo just wants there to be one racer regardless of how different the other racer is So really what you're saying is this is not about this is not about nintendo wanting to focus on one one genre This is about nintendo only caring about having a lot of control everyone. I'm so sorry. That's that's changing No, it's a rule for all their genres, but they definitely RPGs they consider each different kind of rpg its own thing But they don't consider each kind of race. They can they can have so they can have Even though even though even though even though even though each racing game is its own thing They don't see it like that, but they do This is our about mario card. I don't want to remind everybody this is about mario card This is about motherfucking mario To remind us and we have a fan talk with coming up on mario card in the q&a section All right, here it is. All right, so What you're telling me it's okay for nintendo to have multiple different styles. I'm not whoa I'm not answering another question. You can take the last point I've done answering questions that I've already answered eight times. That's fine. They're rhetorical So it's okay for in a town to have multiple different types of platformers. It's okay for nintendo to have multiple different types of of RPGs it's okay for nintendo to have multiple types of party games It's okay for nintendo to have multiple types of adventure games It's okay for nintendo to have multiple different types of sports games, but it comes to racing There can only be one And that I think is total bullshit, but okay Yes All right, all right Moving on to the fan q&a section Can I redeem myself first though? Oh, what do you want? We got Because there's a cleric redemption arc next level games thing. Yes. Yes. No, what I want to see is a combination of What is it platonic games and rare? To bring a new banjo kazooie Let's go Cool. Yeah, and microsoft's willing to do things because platonic is the original developers Some of them some of them. Yeah, but they would at least they put on a similar style game at least already since Yeah, but bring that back in to rare because they technically own the rights And yeah, I want a new banjo kazooie. I'm over your sniffing slime guys If you thought this was good, just know that I'm also a guest on andre's podcast So if you want to see something really good Make sure you're subscribed to him We had a good time last time Yeah, and then it devolved into this. This is what happens remember Saffron city was here earlier talking all always And this is what happens with open forums Sometimes things devolve and I don't know what to do. So moving on Let's get to the fan q&a section where you guys get to submit your questions to submit them It's just a two dollar or more super chat doesn't really matter how much you give it You're going to be shown either way as long as it's two bucks Um takers extensive nintendo switch next. Uh-huh. I think he's going like hey, what are you thinking about that name? Oh, so bad. No Nintendo advanced if it's anything It's nintendo switch advanced like the game boy. Come on Nintendo switch 64 I'm just thinking nintendo switch 2 and I will keep saying it That's so much memory is going to have in it. I think it actually is nintendo switch 2 I'm just gonna stick with switch 2 until nintendo tells me something different like I Think it's the thing that makes sense, which means nintendo won't do it Yeah, but it's a new ceo and I'm hoping that he's a logical thinker nintendo switch 720 Because I think if they would just name it switch 2 it's another hundred million seller Assuming they keep supporting it with the games, of course all right Next up we have doggie saying give nintendo full control of pokemon k. Thanks. Bye I don't know about full control. It would take a lot longer than a year or two to make a game. That's for sure The games would be seven years. The games would be significantly better I think they would they would they wouldn't even they'd delay the game years if they needed to to make it perfect. Oh, yeah Yeah It's always a nice thought it's just the whole reason they they did the pokemon company thing is it was it became so big so fast with the show the cards and The games that like they didn't want to be the ones managing such a big thing that was blowing up back in the 90s That's why they helped form that whole tpc thing because they knew it was too huge But uh, yeah, it's unfortunate because that's the end result is They just give a timeline and you're stuck with it. I have a good day um Let's see here brian c Because I heard that nate thinks that brilliant time in shiny pearls better than tears of the game That makes sense. Nate is a true. You're trolling me early. I hate bdsp With a passion it is The irony is There's all these games I like better, but I beat bdsp Maybe you just don't know what I was forced to because of the stream I promise people I beat it So I had to stream and beat it, but I I will never touch those games again Ever what have you completed more like percentage wise if you completed a higher percentage of bdsp or tears of the kingdom Percentage wise Of what I didn't really keep track of it in bdsp. So I have no I mean just guess I didn't beat the pokedex That's what you mean. Like what what was it we're talking about? What what are the percentages? What are the parameters? I literally Powered through the game and at one point someone felt so bad for how tortured I was They came in and handed me a bunch of level 100 pokemon and I just powered to the end So you had level 100 pokemon. You got to see the credits I didn't even I got my guy all fired up and excited. Yeah, you just want to instigate but I don't know what you're instigating I just want blood now. I got the haste a little bit. Look. I saw the credit Now is awesome I would say I have done more in tears of the kingdom than in bdsp because I literally just powered straight to the end I didn't do any side stuff if I could avoid it. I didn't collect the pokemon Just be aligned. I probably have like 20 pokemon when I beat the game. That's pretty good. All right Thanks, brian for making me go through that red thinking face says here's our maricart question and I'll behave boys I haven't talked What does the next mario card notice? I said boys specifically. I was talking about two particular boys Uh, what does the next mario card game need to be the best in the entire series? So better than mario card eight deluxe. What are your ideas? No, I think they need to uh I think they need to combine with f zero because they're basically the same game Shut up behave Okay, here's a I just jumped off a rich nick go T t t Mandy lee, but give us a refreshing a refreshing. Yeah, one thing you need to do to make mario card the best Just open up the roster to different nintendo ip's Like smash, bro. I got zero maybe. Yep. Okay. Yeah Yep, we'll just feel like enough zero game I keep forgetting I have the ability to mute jake. All right moving on Okay, is this I don't know if this is a controversial take I I don't think it should be a nintendo card. I think they should not Include any other nintendo ip it should actually with you mario kart because nintendo kart Like I like smash don't get me wrong. I think it's great that all the characters are there I don't like that in mario kart though I I just don't think that would work. What can they add to make it the best in the entire series? better courses She might be blasting mario karting's courses. I have no idea But here's the thing regardless. It's gonna be better. It's always gotta get better. I mean, I feel like I would also like Everyone would be tired of the tracks when we've had them for 10 years so I I understand that um what I would like to see is a Elimination type mode where you just keep racing around the track and if like they slowly eliminate and work up to the last Are you trying to troll me? No I'm being a hundred percent serious. Okay, because you know, that's called death race in f zero. Yeah, they should just add it Stop I do I have a real answer Mario kart is already very if they add deathmatch Or death race whatever it's called You're already pretty much an f zero game. They have the f zero kart They have the me costume. All they need to add is captain falcon. They've already got two different um F zero stages it's already an f zero game They just got to add captain falcon I think My real answer and I've said this on the podcast before is I swear music captain falcon to add previous mario kart modes as Um game modes like double dash double dash is the big one. Yeah A story mode would be nice. Oh I would love a true story mode You gotta race to be the It to be the best Actually do it right. Don't don't pull the stupid mario golf. Oh, we have we have an rpg single. Shut up Just shut up. I don't even get to become the best golfer. This isn't an rpg Get out of here. Don't even golf in tournaments You start out golfing in a tournament and then it's done and you never do it again You okay, Austin? Every time I hear rpg I have to sing I have to sing the we we shop wednesday's song. Can we all can we just sing that? No If everyone starts singing I might just hit this little end What if you're really really good at singing though, well, then that means we would get we would get copyrighted I'm gonna go down and then it'd be over. They'd be going down. What if this is like our taylor swith or white light Taylor's what if we're famous forever and ever after this because we were so good We're famous for this podcast right here this specific episode. That's what I'm known for on the internet. I I don't I don't know Yeah, everyone would know that you kind of Are you saying that you're embarrassed if you became popular because of this episode? Not embarrassed, but definitely it's not what I want my legacy to be Hey, um, no pressure or anything, but what do you want your legacy to be? Oh I'll give you a serious answer when I tell people I want to be the I want to be You know, are you familiar with austin show on twitch.tv? Okay, basically, okay Game show like my idea is I want to be the game show host kind of guy that I like like some sort of kind of host like that that is my My dream if a dream content if you will is having a lot of you want to be game shows Yes, but based around nintendo imagine if you combine steve harvey and ludwig into like a content creator That's why I think about that every night before I go to sleep actually. Wow. There you go. There you go Anyways, yeah, that's That's my serious answer my joke my legacy My my joke answer is I would just start riffing off hamilson and just be like legacy. What is legacy? Is it a song you never get this anyways? I'm gonna stop now What are we talking about? I want to know what andre's legacy is too. I want to lie I I you guys were like you guys were like going at it for a while So I started uploading a shit ton of videos on my I feel really like comfortable and safe doing it with andre's because I know we're like gonna be good the whole time Yeah, the thing is it's the people you're too careful around those are the those are the real problems. Yeah, fucking eric Yeah, you you goddamn song bitch Oh, I love you you fucking bag of bones. I love you, buddy That's crazy Yeah, anyways, so I haven't I want to I would like to tell you guys Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Yes. Go ahead. Are you done? Are you done? Oh, I was just gonna I was just gonna concur with Mandy and say like yeah, just doing like Ultimate like Mario Kart ultimate. I don't know. I think that is yeah, so Logical next yep, but also at the same time I can understand not going that route and maybe doing like Not necessarily an ultimate but just like it having more inclusion of more Mario characters kind of like they've done in the past like there's certain characters missing like some Of the Koopa like a Koopa and like some other characters I mean they've added a lot and they ate so I don't know but anyways things like that I think would be cool to see and just I don't know or you maybe it's just like a They've remade the entire series old and new and it's all in this one get you know I mean like that's another I think would be another really cool um That could be a different take on Mario Kart ultimate is every single track is back And you get to play through every single like every single one of them all them through the history of the game That would be that would be sick um That is that does feel like the only way to top what they've done in Mario Kart 8 deluxe Because like are they gonna go from 96 tracks down to like 24 Like you really gonna shift down that many little half as much For years they have plenty of tracks Yeah, I think you go half as much but they plan the rest for DLC Oh, so normally it's 32. That's a starting. Yeah So I don't know so you go 48 included and then Announced DLC ahead of time that you you're gonna be supporting it for like four or five years Yeah, yeah, you can use f0 tracks too because it's like the same Not what they had address What were you gonna say what makes it the best possible Mario Kart game ever for the next one? Well, I think they should really focus on Making sure Mario Kart has its own unique identity that's very separate from any other potential racer Like a high speed futuristic racer. It should really stick It's like a kart racer, right? Um, there's no there's no wave racing, right? There's there's no, you know flying through space. It's it's about it's about a Racing on a cart. Um, yeah, wait, what's wrong? No road. Sorry All right, I'm gonna go back to uploading of every Mario Kart game ever. All right. It's just it's not actually space. It's almost Oh my god, shut the fuck up and get your point So my actual point is this um, I actually think you guys bring bring up some pretty good ideas I I I agree with Nick. I don't really feel like a smash cart is the right way to go about it. However I think Smashifying it to an extent makes sense and I don't mean like pulling in other Nintendo characters Like if you want to add those as DLC a couple like that's cool But I more so mean kind of like what we saw with the booster course pass, right? Like they add an item customization for example, right? Like smash brothers If you have so much customization options with how you can like play a match They should do that with racing as well Dude, what if they let you like record like a cry like whenever you threw an item that it would say it You could be like big fat low to come and then like when every time you throw a shell Your little recorded thing Goes off like hi like I think you guys food exactly why they won't let that happen. Yeah I can't think of a single scenario where that goes wrong Why I'm hearing all this talk about what they can do with tracks and what they can do with characters Why aren't we ever talking about the items? It's been like the same damn items I actually wanted to go back to unique items. Um, like in double dash had unique items I want to yeah, I really enjoy that about double dash honestly like I think that's I can understand if you don't want to get rid of the classic that people have been playing for 10 years Like maybe have that as an option to turn on the menu like if you want a classic item mode Hence the customization. Yeah hence the customization But I think like they need to really refresh the items badly And that's what could actually make this game feel crazy different as items that just do different things I kind of wish they'd put that little um The feather item that's only in the battle mode if they put that in the main racing That would be so different like you jump over red shells and stuff Or ledges to cut What they can also you know what night they could also put mario kart classic mode in That just has all the same boring items So if you wanted that experience in the next mario kart game, it's an option. Yeah It's not standard mode. It's not the default many many at a point. What were you going to say? I many spoke up for a second. I just wanted to give her a chance to talk I like the items that could be a nice fresh take New course that might keep like the blue shallows like the classic blue shell or something Different outfits for the characters like I like outfits or I like that would be sick. I like that idea You know speaking of outfits, it would be great if they added outfits Because then you could buy them with coins and it would give you a reason to collect other than Because I get all these coins and now It's like a store even just even the cart parts like even like that could just be like a store front All that makes such a good idea I know jake wants to make custom stuff because he just wants to make shit down A phallus. You can make your own rain. It's an animal crossing. They can do it the same way they do an animal crossing You can make your own designs and stuff. They're just not your own like words I'm going a different direction. So I like what you guys are talking about with That would go south so quick Getting clutching the coins and getting more costumes and stuff and also parts of your vehicles But take the platoon route. We already talked about having DLC shortly after well How about we're talking about Mario Kart they launched with initial 32 But it's like hey that they just talked about how there's going to be content continuously coming for years, right? So and they just keep it going Right. So that there'll be a new kind of like a couple sets of grand prix every every season There'll be new parts new costumes and you continually just play Earn coins and you can purchase more things to to for customization options and they just keep it going like that I think would Be interesting would keep people playing Mario Kart for more You know honestly the way you got to do it the way you got to do with Mario Kart is You can't have never ending upgrades. It would have to just be cosmetics. It would have to be like what fortnight does Well, like they come out with Like they can they can have a really deep a deeper mode of what you described than any other Mario Kart game before That would be a big improvement But the way you keep making money off of it is you rotate in Like let you know rotating rotating having like the samus helmet or something You know what I mean like yeah I guess a lot of you are getting up in arms about that though. I won't lie like I mean it's cool I know for my perspective Yeah, people will be pissed, but I think it would be a lot healthier for the game longer. I just want to make it clear I'm not talking about spending money in game, right? I know I was just saying the way to do your idea I think I think to the fullest would involve spending money so you could add all the cosmetic stuff I think you could have it both ways You could have like if you really want to grind coins To get the outfit or you can just buy coins with real money. It cannot be both ways It's I think it can go both ways Oh If it's they're gonna make it cosmetic stuff, then I think it's okay They're gonna make it really grindy for the people who don't want to pay I've seen this plenty of times I never know that wait mandy. That's not what he's saying He's saying make the purely cosmetic stuff You can pay for it, but anything that's an actual upgrade everyone in the same way You can't pay to get it faster. That's all just the same for everyone Let's just keep my micro transactions out of my heart. Thank you. Yeah, but there's no micro transactions No, no, what I'm saying. Yeah. Anyways, we're talking about not for progression or like upgraded items The only thing that you would pay for is cosmetic stuff I think Outside game currency, I'm a I'm a hard no on that The best part about paid cosmetics is if you don't want them, you don't have to buy them Yeah, but that opens a new tangent So just so just for the record. I personally that personally doesn't bother me, but I just don't think nintendo would do that Yeah, okay Next we have the elemental hero the shadow link dragon wolf king Did a member chat here? Thanks for being a member for nine months, buddy He says uh with pokemon legends rc is selling possibly 15 million plus So you don't know the exact sales yet on the top end. Uh, will we see another one like celibate or curam? Also, what country would you like to see in gen 10? I think we've already touched that earlier in the podcast I think we said that those are the two I would think I would think between the two of those I think in terms of legends game in terms of the logically the logical next game in terms of lore Celibate makes more sense But I think in terms of like what I think if I was to you know, put my money on it What is next? I think it's going to be legends, uh, you know, if at all Which there is plenty of lore in you know, but to to create legends I mean even even legends, uh, rc is like it took place in the distant past, but it wasn't like So far in the past. I don't know. I don't know It didn't seem like it was like ridiculously far in the past if that makes any sense And I think you could find like I think I think it would make a good game still Like you could still have like a lot of like history and like things you could discover and like going You know from one point to another Yeah, that's that would be a really cool. I think that's like I feel like that's what we're probably going to get Next is you know, but probably along with some remakes Legends cairum. I don't know what that it'll probably be legends cairum or legends Oh, they might split it into two versions. They might do the version thing with legends and split it into Zekrom and rush room because I hope they don't do that. I don't think they will but but they could Yeah, I'll say that um Yeah, I think let legends arc you sold so well considering that they pushed out in january after the holidays Didn't have two different versions and I cut off his marketing because they announced in the other pokemon really soon I would love to see a legends game. Just get the full treatment, right? Like announce it in february for the pokemon presents. That's the pokemon game for the holiday and just market that throughout the year I would love to see how well it does. I bet it does 20 million plus not to not to harp on this but also The pokemon especially in recent games has gotten very Creative with like what pokemon is in the game or like what pokemon is the box legendary and in black and white too They explored the idea of like merging pokemon um, and I could see them doing something like that in uh In a legends game where the ancient pokemon because I think the reasons they merge is because it's like they the Lore is that rush room and zekrom or one pokemon and cairum are all one pokemon at one point And zekrom and rush room split and then the lifeless husk of what it used to be is what cairum is And so I could see like a third or the combination Yeah, like whatever that pokemon is that I could also see them calling the game that which would be really cool You know what I want to see Legends joto but it takes you in the past and shows vaporeon flareon And jolteon dying in the building and being resurrected as Is the unofficial lore behind them That's the theory. Yeah, um, what's cool about legends so is it they're willing to go That is the first time I've ever heard that theory. That's very cool What's cool about legends though is it's it's it's more conceivable to see something like that because legends is darker than the other games Like they are like like you play legends are like arches are like, oh, yeah, you might die Yeah, like the pokemon can kill you No, but like even like the lore they're like, yeah, he might not make it So like they're they're a little bit more darker reason why joto would be such a great legends game is because legends had zones Right and like you had to load and I think for the next one they're going to try to cut that out but joto was A huge innovation on kanto because it was the first region where it didn't matter if you were in the last town The first town before you got fly you could go to any town even without before you got fly so easily because they were so interconnected So for the next legends game to feature a region like that where it's all interconnected, but It's not as big in scope as some of the other ones. So the game can actually handle it It's just like I don't know it works on a lot of levels to me I I like maybe limiting progression I don't know if they'll do open world, but if they did right like it would be cool They limit progression just by your ability. They still do that like to do stuff in regular pokemon games with hm So there's still tons of ways to limit progression Yeah, and you don't have access to climbing at rock climbing and fly immediately either in arceus, right? So like if that's how they want to limit it. So like Yeah, maybe you could go You are the equivalent of hms in arceus. Yeah, so yeah, I mean I would actually like it if they handled it that way It'd be really cool What country for gen 10 And or to cut uh india India i think is the next Australia already has enough big animals to be a great I would be kind of sick New australian would be sick, but they have reference they reference india multiple times through the gala games and pal daya What about me see that would be nice. That would be cute. Yeah Yeah, I could see that I mean copper. It's literally in copper rajah's Pokedex entry that he is from basically what is implied the the world's equivalent of india. So What if it's like come on africa or egypt, that'd be cool. That'd be cool too. Let me see Just more specific part of africa northeastern africa might have or it could be based on like All of africa. I don't know how they would do that, but that would be really neat. That's a tojo reference True You're so right. I love that. But yeah, um My my bed is india like honestly, that's that's that's the next thing I have a friend I'm on a plug right now named. Uh, mr. Brandon pragg magic knows his youtube I do uh, he makes he makes you cc or a we're friends, right? Yeah, I got you. I got you. All right net packs. I got you jake. Um At packs or not at packs. Excuse me. My friend brandon pragg mad I don't know why I keep saying his first name his name is pragg magic on youtube He makes fake mon regions like like uh, like they come up with pokemon that could could exist or also just you know Or for fun z to make and he made an entire recline Yeah, he made an entire region based around india and it's very cool And he did a lot of research for it He had a lot of people from india or who currently live in india like contribute like cultural ideas and plot ideas and You know, he's very very he's done a very good job of in I think it's called the devar region is but anyways, go check him out. He's very cool. Very neat. Um, yeah, he's a cool guy Anyways, that just those are really solid plug. I enjoyed watching it Robbie's hobbies just wanted to say what a square enix started making a mario plus the weegee rpg series originally made Yeah You know what he reacted this way to you jake They wanted Robbie's hobbies to get all the love I just i'm so sad that we don't have another mario in the weegee game for real dream team More like peak team so good I I mentioned how this is at all relevant to any debate we had earlier today Oh, here we go. That's it. That's all I gotta say All I have to say is literally they changed the paper mario formula because it was too close to mario and luigi I'm moving on. Um, sorry, Robbie. We had to talk longer, but this is just evolving again. Uh, Jorge FD says maybe genchin will finally come to switch After years of announcement of the force I don't get it. I don't care if it comes to They technically have not canceled it on switch. In fact, the last update was last year and they said it's still coming Didn't they say somewhere that they needed more power? And they said they didn't like the power, but they was still coming Yeah, it's definitely not coming to definitely not coming to switch I think they what they meant by still coming is it's got moved to switch to I have a feeling if they're moving Genshin to switch to I think they'll definitely try to put honkai star rail on switch to you too Probably they'll get both of those money makers on switch. Oh my goodness. They will just say that You look at hogger's legacy, right? Like I was not feeling good about that yet. It's selling right? So when developers see that hogger's legacy, which to me looks like a dumpster fire, right? But a lot just Okay, where are you? I need you But some people love it right now. I gotta a lot of a lot of people are really happy with Hogger's legacy on switch and they're buying. Yes. They're very happy with it My point is simply that you look against an impact and then they like if they're maybe good games or good games don't matter Exactly. Look at pokemon And you just like literally destroyed your whole argument what games gonna look good to be played on Well, I'm like I'm arguing that that's not the case I don't understand your point hogger's legacy selling extremely well. So other developers should do that He's all on the same tonight here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know It's all well, he doesn't understand it, but he wants more of it I have a question for andres about hogger's legacy because I saw you quote tweeted the developers Or water brothers someone saying right the sales thing Yeah, here's the kingdom did sell more, right? They claimed that hogger's legacy sold more than any other game We don't know yet February 6th There's no way if the February 6th, so we don't know But we believe that here's the kingdom probably sold more than two million With the knowns data They are it's probably an easy projection. We don't even know all the data. We don't know all the sales for calling That's why they can get away with it because no other company has announced anything higher So technically as of right now with what has been announced. They can say that it's a little bit of a media stunt End of being the truth It makes them look good. I mean the thing is they should Nintendo youtubers like us going When I did my tweet of it, I was like people thought I was attacking. I'm like one. No, I'm buying it on switch to uh 22 millions insane And for a wb game, they don't sell Wb make games don't sell 20 plus million. It is amazing sales I just was like, you don't need to like brag about something. You're not 100 sure I'm just say, hey, we just released our best-selling game ever in company history and be happy with that but Headline of best-selling game in 2023 just looks better so yeah um Let's see here. Uh boom and he said I'd like to request a brief moment of silence. We already did that one Thank you so much. We got to Aaron raff said, uh, if I show a keg can we move on? I think this was back when uh A certain couple was going at it. I need a room I don't know. I'm thinking his belly. Maybe because you know, sometimes make beer references to our bellies I don't sure. Yeah. Is it his belly? Yes Is that a reference? Maybe it's a midwest thing where we where we call our our fat bellies a keg. I don't know Is that is that short for kegel? Do you not know what a beer keg is? No, I know what a keg is Okay, I'm gonna be like man. Don't tell me that's only in the midwest because I'm just I'll be flabbergasted now. I'm never going back to Boston again Showing a keg doesn't make any sense Because it means lifting your shirt up to show your belly Oh, yeah, it's definitely a midwest thing. Got it Yeah, midwest thing. Got it. All right Saffron City came back to give a couple bucks. Thank you so much Um, let's say the podcast was fun. She missed us already Now we'll have to definitely get you on another episode. I don't know if you're still listening in the background Probably She had a hard cut off. She said she's got you know, everyone's got life stuff going on So, uh, thank you so much for coming on the show. We'll definitely get you on another episode I'm glad you had a good time And you fit in just fine and you can handle jake. So that's that's already Congrats. That's already he can handle jake. You can be on the show. No problem So sometimes you got to handle me, but I think I've been good today. I don't know. I love handling you Every there it is There it is I'm keeping it clean. I'm keeping it clean Janiel Vargas any of you picking up prince of persia for switch I'm waiting on the reviews if the reviews checked as well as the previews did Yes Sure I love prince of persia's franchise and I know this isn't like a traditional one. It looks good I'm gonna say no Because I already have Enough to play. I just got like four games for my ps4 Yeah, I'm trying to get through those Keep writing about these It's just a ps4 pro. It's not even that like it's not a ps5 it's It's not mad as mad as well. But if you squint the game, so let me let me get this straight So you're literally not gonna play a game That's not gonna do as well or not gonna be as big a deal as some of the other games you play, which is literally Discrimination against the minority. What? What what is happening just because Hold on. There's just not something. Wait, jake. Are you all We don't we don't plan it. Okay. I wasn't gonna play it either way Because it's not my type of game. But what does that mean? Well, then just say that What do you mean? Like that style of game. What what what what do you mean by the style? I don't know. I watched the trailer and I didn't like it. It didn't appeal to me. So I'm not gonna buy it I'm gonna stop pressing you. I'm we're just messing. This is just This is where we're doing them. This is such a Honest question. Hey a couple bucks. You guys gonna pick up prince of persia. Now it's a whole thing Me and andre sorry. I am probably buying it. I am on the probably buy I just want to see I just want to see if the quality holds up to what it looks like it is This looks like a really good ubi soft game. We'll see. I'll say it Why would I buy prince of persia when persona 3 reload comes out like two weeks later? Clearly gonna be the superior game Okay, is that a new game? No, it's a remake of persona 3 Which I'm buying a remake over a brand new game. I see how yes, okay 100% Because I know I don't know prince of persia. Well, how are you gonna know prince of persia if you don't try? Once you want to know persona one day? At some point you had to try games I knew persona before I played persona five so Hey, man, let him enjoy. I'm saying that there was a time in your life You didn't and you had to try something at some point anyway going on It's okay I'm sorry. I'm trying to stand up for this game because it legitimate It looks like one of the best games that we stopped has made in a long time I'm gonna wait to see if the reviews back it up. Yeah, I want to make sure the It just because it looks like that we've seen this happen before so let's wait wait I'm gonna wait for the review for example. I was pretty confident. It's gonna hold up I was into the sonic game. I thought it looked really cool But then reviews came out and it was like solid But I don't know. I just like it just felt like too high The previews for the game sounded really good a bunch of youtubers got to play it and it sounded good But again, it's a marketing event. Let's wait and see what happens If you're gonna tell me that Prince of Persia feels like Metroid Dread though, but Prince of Persia like to me That's like a huge cell. No, is it that? We'll see. We'll see. Yeah, it looks really good though. Yeah Take or 610 comes in with a five This is our last one unless we get one while we're talking says Andres finally played Metroid Fusion First time after Dread really great game Are you supposed to feel conflicted killing the nightmare boss? Is that the one that makes the weird faces? That's a good question. I think yeah, um, I don't I did it feel if I remember it correctly, I did feel a little weird about it But I don't I don't I don't I haven't read any interviews on it. I haven't done too much research on fusion I just played fusion and it's a good game though. Yeah Yeah, it's the one you play zero mission. Yeah, I have not played zero mission It's like the only that and the original Metroid 2 are the only Metroid games. I haven't played Gotcha Yeah, sadly Well, I heard zero missions like Gameplay wise like the same as fusion. Yeah, they both came on gameplay advanced I think if you had to play one fusion would be the one now Yeah, I'm pulling for I mean they're supposed to add zero mission to nsl, right soon Hopefully I don't know if that's been announced I think they announced fusion and people are like, okay now just announced zero mission. Yeah So like yeah, I'm hoping but they haven't they haven't added it yet. So Hopefully soon Yeah Do you have any thoughts on this mandy? There's a request from the chat for your thoughts on this Oh, um, I've only played Metroid dread. So I don't really know the old Metroid games. How do you feel about Metroid dread? There we go. It was nice. It was kind of hard, but yeah through it It's a nice challenge a more challenging game. Yep Hmm, would you say it was a delight to the senses? Yeah, it was nice She left it with a positive feeling. Yeah, no genuinely It's good. Um Are you are you gonna are you willing to try any of the Metroid Prime stuff? I have Metroid Prime. I just haven't played it yet. Okay. You have the remastered one Yeah, the switch one That's the one that's the one to start with Yeah, you know, what's gonna get her when they announced Metroid Prime 4 and she looks at it and she goes, okay It's time for me to finally Yeah, I'm probably what's gonna be as hell. Yeah Hey, whatever gets you into Metroid Prime Metroid. Let me Metroid in general just a great series, but Yeah, but I mean there is something to be said with it. It is challenging, right? So it's maybe yes, but then you look at something like, um, I don't know most souls born games They sell well, right? I'm they're challenging. So The the audience does exist for that kind of game I got a question What do you guys think is held back Metroid from being more popular? bad luck Like a story It controls are you mean are you mean the That's the only one was Metroid Dread at three mil like what's been preventing this from like hitting There is a lot of story Quality story in Metroid I miss it. I'm sorry No, no, no, no, no wrong what you said isn't wrong If you're not much of a Metroid player, you're not gonna know about the story the story the story is not Here's the thing. There's a really great story But I understand what mandolin is saying because when you just play the games from not being like super hardcore in the Metroid It's not really told to you very well Like that could be something that maybe holds it back a little bit from a story Like people who play games and love story, you're not playing Metroid for the story. You're not playing any nintendo games There's a few there's a few Xenoblades like to play chronicles zeno blades like the big story one. Yeah, that's huge Um Tell us a little debatable, but I think zella has I think I think I think with daddy jake's over there saying is like compared to Sony's games or like it's all hardcore story. So it's so many games are basically playable movies. So, you know So back in the day, I think 2d 2d metroid obviously, you know was a job It's a genre defining game. So like great amazing. It's sold amazingly But in terms of let's just say let's just let's define some parameters here in terms of 3d modern metroid, right? I think what's holding it back the most one for the longest time at least the Metroid Prime series Uh halo just existed keep it real with y'all like that was It always felt like it it felt like no, no, no, I'm talking about A lot of people played halo for the single player campaign like that is that is a multiplayer Sustained power But in comparison to in terms of like controls at the time the game cube I feel like that metroid was a more clunkier version. It wasn't as fluid as Say you have game like halo But but I think the metroid primary master has proven that it can be very fluid and very Welcoming and a more modern in 2023 even 2024 moving forward. Halo definitely a better gunplay I that's I'm saying is I think I think back in the day That was what was holding it back. Also the fact that it was on a console that didn't have a very large install base Game cube so and and by the time metroid prime 3 comes out It's the third one as we all know as youtubers if you put a number in your title and You know, nobody wants to watch part 3. They want to see where part 1 is and yeah Yeah, so I'm gonna drop the 4 for metroid prime 4 just to get more people in They might I don't know or they might or they either need to drop it as 4 or they either need to drop the 4 They could do it like metroid dread where it's metroid 5, but the Like the actual title on it says metroid dread so you don't feel like you have to play I think it needs to be like a re it needs to be marketed as like a rebrand or like a reboot of the series almost in my opinion Not saying that it needs to be very ridiculously different But I think in terms of a marketing standpoint, I think it needs to be this thing that's like, okay, hey We saw this this is similar to prime and it has a similar You know as this character is this great thing and prime sold well and whatever But this is I think that's I don't know the thing that we're holding it back I think there are things in the past and I think at this point They just need a a good marketing campaign and I think that if as long as this is prime 4 is a solid game I think it'll flourish honestly So um a couple things, um, I was just looking up like the sales for halo combat evolved on the xbox Yeah, go for it sold five and a half million which Is really good because I remember correctly xbox sold about what 21 22 million back then So it's about a 25. Um, that's an stellar right, but I think we all remember that Halo was the game you played on xbox right like that Right, um, so game cube actually sold a little bit worse than xbox by like a million or two It was close to 20 million And metro prime originally sold 2.8, which is less than halo But also metro prime wasn't the game you played on game cube, right? There were some there were maybe a handful other games you would play over I only made that argument just because I think a lot of people at least a lot of people at the time At least when I was growing up. They always made that comparison with prime Right, yeah, I think you brought bring up a good point though. Um, it hurts me to hear you say it because I like no I mean, I'm not I don't agree with that. Obviously. I think metro prime is whatever. I'm just saying from a marketing perspective and a branding perspective I think that is that was it back in the day. It was the back in the game cube day I think that's what held it back or one of one of I actually but I think is I agree with you though, right? Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you, right? Um, I do think that I agree that there's something to how the way metro prime plays doesn't feel very He also says that your face is shaped like a clock He said that to me privately Anyway, that's not necessarily an insult and I did not but I did not say that. Yeah, I don't know. You're the one who said it Let him get his point out jake, right. It'll be nice wouldn't it? But anyways, so I think I make a great point about, you know Metro prime become a little more mainstream in terms of controls and stuff And I think there are steps to making that direction But um, I guess maybe uh, what I want to point out though Is that I think that the real big thing about hail back in the day It really helped propel it and the xbox was the online play, right? And so Metroid purists will scream at this idea some metroid purist, right? Because I would say I'm a metroid purist to some extent, right? Do you stream at this? I scream at your thoughts on f0 vs mario kart, but Outside of that outside of that I think we're usually on the same page. Um Um What I just want to say those I think metroid prime 4 has an opportunity If they introduce multiplayer Mm-hmm that could really make a big difference now I say that with the assumption that the single player is still a masterpiece, right? Like it still has to be still has to be The best possible adventure that they can make right? This is me me just believing that they're going to throw all resources they can to do both And it has been done before I mean literally metroid prime 2 did it Right now maybe the multiplayer can do a little bit better in metroid prime 2 But it's it's conceivable. I mean the heck halo arguably did it, right? They had some amazing campaigns and still had amazing multiplayer. So it's been done, right? But it does require a lot of resources So nintendo has invested a lot in a metroid from what we understand So hopefully prime 4 with the proper marketing, you know, right time It does it does get there All girl network had an interesting suggestion for a new name metroid prime tesseract Which is a four-dimensional hypercube. So it's still related to the number four Cool, I mean that is a pretty neat name. Obviously did we have to base the whole game around that whole thing but Maybe they Maybe I don't know like it's one of those we haven't seen anything But a logo back in 2017. So be anything, you know I would like to answer nate's question as someone who has literally only played metroid dread I even like dread. I liked dread. He didn't love it. But not for the normal reasons. Like I thought it was Cool, but I got about halfway through and ended up using a guide because I got bored I really liked the cutscenes and the The little bit of story that was presented there But it did feel really weird Because there were certain aspects of it that I felt like I should have known already And there were certain aspects of the story that felt like I needed to Have that pre knowledge. That's fair but The reason I've never picked up metroid prime At all like any of them even when it was remastered on switch is I don't like the first person And I'm not and I know that's like a key aspect of metroid prime But I think it would be nice if there was A way to toggle it so you could switch to third person because I like the third person like over the shoulder perspective Because I feel like I can get a much better sense. You could just be a little Because that's third person, right? I mean kind of but it's not the same because then like you pop it up and then If it was over the shoulder like resin evil 4 for example with that would that be like, oh, all right, or like fortnite Yeah, I'm thinking more like fortnite And I feel like if it was a toggle that would be great Yeah, I think resin evil 4 to me is a better comparison just because resin evil 4 is more of an atmospheric game The metroid is a very atmospheric game. Yeah, but I mean the camera perspectives are very similar. So, you know, um Yeah, I mean I I I understand what you're what you're saying I I do feel like there's a lot of people especially a lot of nintendo Gamers that aren't accustomed to first person um I don't feel that way right a lot of other nintendo games do it like xeno blade is technically third person Zelda is third person like yeah, but the first person modes are booty No, that's not this it's not the same Like, you know, I don't I don't like move like I don't like moving around the first person xeno blade It feels if the game's not designed for that like you can do it. It's a kind of like a neat little novelty um, like so like I don't know. Um, I mean there are other there are some first person games that have a third person mode like elder scrolls, for example, right? um Well, too, and you could play first player. I believe in toggle it if you want to See that's another good example. I didn't know you can go Technically added it to win waker hd as well Yeah Yeah, I was great in win maker hd because like The the fun part of that is being that third person perspective where it because the link is so floaty and flies around Yeah, so my problem with this is it like it's been done But it has it ever but how often is it done where it feels like that's how you can get a lot of people to Enjoy it in that way, right? Like because they could add like a like a flimsy third person mode But if the game's not designed with that in mind fully if you play the game entirely in third person It's not designed without fully. You might not really enjoy it in the way. It should be enjoyed, you know um, and so I'm not saying they can't do it. I'm just I don't know. I I understand where you're coming from though I also had a little bit of a more cohesive story That I didn't have to like really deep dive. Yeah In I I I do agree that while the story is great if you actually deep dive Again, this goes back to mandy's like it just doesn't It's not in your face enough. It's not told well I mean the same thing happens like this is one of the curse of the cheers of the kingdom Some people be like, oh, it's a great story, but maybe it's not told in the best way That's kind of similar to Metroid where I don't You can pretty much play the entire game and not even realize the story is happening Yeah, it's it's very easy to like beat the game And literally you just remember a few lines you read somewhere and that was all you got for story I see this is also one of those tricky things for me because I actually like The way they tell the story in the Metroid Z series And you also in cheers with the kingdom in breath of the wild where it's not in your face about it It's if you choose to seek it out. I like that. I like they have that option So I don't know I mean I might just be well the thing is the kingdom though still sell It's still sold 20 million copies open world game open world game Well, we don't metro prime four I know what I'm just saying that like the Metroid games weren't really open world and you still had to seek it out which is kind of It's weird that you're in like what is a more linear style game And yet the story isn't there when you play a lot of linear games and that's one of the biggest That's like one of the biggest benefits of linear games is the storytelling And yet they still made you have to find it And you know, maybe maybe the thing is maybe what they could do is like they they do have a more in your face story Right, and maybe there's like there there are more cut scenes not so much It takes away from like experience, but it's still my it's still kind of more there Yeah, and it's enough to kind of get you to want to find out this feeling I have this feeling Whatever they do a metro prime four That I think uh, if it if it does get popular Uh Hardcore Metroid fans are actually going to be like some hardcore Zelda fans and not like it Because they're going to take away a lot Anything new Yeah, because like you're like oh, I like how the story's done Yeah, but what if that they just totally redo it and that's not the way it is and it is in your face the whole time And that ends up being extremely popular because people love in your face stories Look at all of sony's games. They love when the story's in your face. Sure I mean, I'm also open to change right like I'm not saying you in particular kingdom are my favorite So I'm not I'm not saying you in particular you are you are much more open-minded as a game or two changes in a franchise Um, but I I just think that I just think there are some hardcore fans are going to be like no You took away my corridors. No, you took away this. No, you took away that. Oh no It's going to be like, yeah, but they're trying to like take Metroid to this next level They put a triple a budget into the stamp thing. They want this to maybe not expecting You know, you they're not going to go in expecting to do tears of the kingdom numbers But like going in being like, hey, this is going to be a five million. We want to hit 10 million Like that's a goal for us. What can we do to actually make this appeal beyond What we've always done like what do we think is holding this back? And I think that's part of the reason why I spent a development for so long and even switched developers Is like just trying to figure out that identity for the game to finally break the barrier that honestly Um, a lot of Metroidvania is a bit of a hard time breaking outside of very specific indie games That have really blown up way bigger than Metroid's ever gotten and I go back to this I like going back to a lot from software their mainstream Their games have a lot of Metroidvania elements. Yep. It can be done Yep, absolutely. It can be done. I don't know what the answer is. Nick, how do you feel about Soulsborne games? Can you give me an example of one? Elden Ring Never played it Dark Souls Never played it Bloodborne Never played it Arbor and War Never played it I don't think he's playing it Arbor and Warblade Is there a Warblade and Warblade? Is that the Soulsborne game? Yeah, it's the second one I know Sekiro exists. I've never played it Do one No That's not them, but He's never played it once before You can say Eliza P which is a Soulsborne style game and he just hasn't played them But you know you wouldn't know how he'd feel I know that type of game Have you played Hollow Knight? Yes, I absolutely despised Hollow Knight That's like the concept of that Oh my god I couldn't get farther than two hours in Hollow Knight Where when you die and you lose all your souls and then you can go back Nick would know that he does not represent the opinions of Nintendo Prime On the whole See, I didn't like Hollow Knight And that's why I was so hesitant to play Metroid Dread Because I know they're both like Metroidvania type games I don't like that style of game I just don't That's just not for him So you didn't enjoy Metroid Dread I enjoyed it Because it was a Nintendo game If it didn't have the Nintendo If it didn't have the Nintendo IP attached to it I would not play it I respect the admitted bias that made you enjoy something more than he normally would 100% I will admit I have a Nintendo bias over everything I'm not ashamed of that I respect people that can recognize That like that bias increases an enjoyment that you might not have felt if you played it Well at least you're probably going to give Prime 4 a try Because of that Nintendo bias I'll think about it They got to really show me If they wow him with the trailer Okay What made you get Dread a try then One of my friends told me it was really good And I got it for Christmas So it didn't cost me anything So what he's saying is he needs to win a bet on the podcast To get it for free and then he'll play it Yes If somebody handed me Metroid Prime 4 If you're going to get on out on a bet Maybe you can help him out with Metroid I think it's cool to talk about how you feel about it Because you're not a Metroid lover But the same story I should probably be the one that makes it Yeah maybe But I also think we should consider We look at the sails of tears of the kingdom We look at the sails of breath of the wild Like yes there's a lot There's a vocal group that are not happy With the direction Nintendo has taken Zelda But the sales numbers tell a different story Right So Oh we're never going back to the old sails Why would they 20 million back to back 30 million back Why would they even consider going back And so my point only with that though Is we can talk to a person or two That hate Metroid or dislike it Or maybe that's a strong word But you know what I mean Just interested by the franchise And what would make them like it Isn't necessarily going to be the answer either I mean that's the thing I don't know what the answer is The thing is because I like Metroid the way it is It's like well I don't see what the problem is But then I'm like yeah But then you play all these other games That are much more popular And you start to realize they're a bit more fluid The stories are told in certain ways Because they love to be And they love more freedom And Metroid's not necessarily always been about that freedom It's actually been about limitations I do have an idea though There is something that Nintendo has been doing That has worked So they did it with Breath of the Wild They did it with Tears of the Kingdom They did it with Mario Odyssey They did it with Pikmin 4 And so you might be thinking Like what am I getting at here All these games And they've been all structured In a way where If you're not someone who likes challenging games You can still get to the end But if you do like challenging games That challenge still exists If you look in the right places And so the challenge with Metroid Going back to what Mandy said about Dread Like for her it was a little bit challenging So maybe that impacted her enjoyment too much You probably prefer games that are Not trying to torture you So they may have to rethink Metroid That larger mainstream audience To the point where it can be played In a way where You don't have to be a Metroid expert To get to the end But at the same time That is a big part of what Metroid is So they still have to find a way to have that challenge That still exists at the same time And that's challenging but it can be done Yeah I don't have an 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that To be all over the microphones all the time Sanitize Look at Ruby I've tried to cough away from him I know you have I know you have I know people were asking about To be fair, my kids are nasty Everything they touch was in my entire house He's so cute Let's see here We got From Eric, let's hop up to What are you guys going on? Any upcoming content? You can find me on my channel At Mendeley Plays And you can follow me on Twitter At Mendeley Plays Yeah, so What kind of content do you make? For those of you who might not know I make Nintendo content, list videos About gaming, RPGs And I livestream every weekend Hell yeah All right, let's just keep Jump around like crazy, Daddy Jake Hey, what's up? I don't know if they want to know what you do But what do you do and where can they find you? I don't know if I'm going to do YouTube anymore But I have a YouTube called Jake Randall You can also find me on X, slash, Twitter Wait, is that like serious? You don't know about YouTube? Or am I crazy? Are you doing another bit? No, no, I just We never know with you Yeah, I really don't know I'm asking I've been just really, really happy the last few months And I've just been kind of living like a small, simple little life And I just feel really, really nice All the time and there hasn't been room For YouTube in that and I'm okay with that Because I'm happy And I just want to keep doing that for a little bit Let me know if the podcast ever makes you unhappy And I won't kick your ass off The podcast was one of the changes I made In the middle of the year that helped get me To structure some more schedule So I still like doing the podcast It's not my channel, so And it lets me stay connected to it a little bit So I like that, but you can always Find me on onlyfans.com slash two inch destroyer You can always find them all It actually exists in this time It's not saying it Go ahead and check it out I haven't seen anything posted yet But I also didn't pay to be a member I'm getting monetized And stuff that takes a little bit You better have free membership before I'm just kidding Yeah, I don't want you to know how it works I've never signed up at all even All right How about Favlam Well, my name is Favlam I am the resident Twitch streamer Of the group, so if you follow me anywhere Follow me on Twitch, that's where I'm most active However, I would really appreciate a YouTube follower We're almost at 400 actually Yeah, I live through YouTube down below If you subscribe to anything actually though Like I'm most active on Twitter Or Twitch, excuse me, but I'm I'm really pushing To grow the YouTube and we've posted Uh Shorts every day except for Like on weekends and we've been I have like two or three Longform videos cooking Like they should be out either next week or the week after Like they will be out My goal is to have a video a month Maybe two if I can really push there Love longform videos for you, honest I know I said that to you before It's coming, I promise, it's happening I have the script written, I just have to sit down And like record the longform I've done it with shortform, I just need to sit down I mean it's just hard because again I work I also work 40 hours a weekend, some days I just get home And I have this fucking thing And just to remind in the chat, that's not the only thing that's coming And pushing to grow So remember, check out Onlyfans.com slash two inch destroyer Hell yeah Whoever gets to three He's got to close the onlyfans And on the topic of Pokemon I am doing a short series It's on Tiktok, it's on YouTube Short and it's on Instagram Reels About each Pokemon intro The intro specifically I'm doing it and ranking them on a tier list So we've, the current Today's episode was about silver and gold Tomorrow will be about crystal And we will continue to keep going through every single Pokemon game I want to watch that, that's cool I'm considering making it one I'm considering going even doing the spin-offs And then also making it a Video essay at the end of it Like combining it all into a video I'm telling you, the video essays, I'm excited for it for you Yeah, I kind of want to do, I kind of want to write somebody I have some video essay ideas cooking as well So that's what I'm saying, I have like the stream Longform I have to convert over And then into my story I'm most excited for like the video essays Like I think it's fresh I think, yeah I appreciate that I think Andreas would too for like For like Zelda content Hell, yeah Anyways, that's me, that's for the blame I appreciate you all, thanks for having those podcasts again And yeah, you're all wonderful people I remember he's a professional Nintendo simp I am a professional Alright, well I'm no longer going to just wait I'm just restart, what do you got going on And where can they find you? Well, I'm currently enjoying Time with my cat, she's right here So cute Beyond that Well I try to make Nintendo videos almost every day We're talking about something tomorrow I think I know what it is Unless something crazier happens in the morning To my mind So I try and Go in depth with Nintendo news and theories every day Tommy bear knows the scam Here we go Should he be saying that to me, not him What? Should he be saying that to me? I didn't say it at all I was over here, I don't know who said that I brought that person up But that was one of three people brought up in a video And I was like, eh Tommy bear knows told me to watch and exploit me a thousand pieces I had to pick a thousand pieces Of wash out of my dates soup Because of Tommy bear knows Hey, what's up? Geez Alright Nick with no K What are you going on and where can they find you? I just look to your podcast, I don't know what else to do Honestly, the best way Because it's either that or you're following me on Twitter I post stuff on Twitter But honestly, if you're going to follow anything Follow the podcast, it's the nerdiest podcast We do Movie and TV shows mainly But we are going to try to slip In a couple more video game episodes And If you were disappointed that tears of the kingdom Didn't win game of the year at the game awards We're going to have a little bit of a fix for that Soon Which will be announced On our first episode Of season six Which is dropping on Monday So we've been on break for a little bit But we're coming back We're coming back strong We're doing, you know, I'll just say it We're doing our own awards show this year And there does happen to be A category for game of the years So Hell yeah, trying to be your hype man Thank you You're on this one for tears of the kingdom daddy Jake Steve, here I don't know Cause it's It's an awards show, but it's open For voting So like we've put up Auditions For voting Our fans, our audience It could be swung It could be swung, I'm just saying I literally could just make one mention On my channel and it would win There you go If you want to do that, I wouldn't be mad No, I have to see if I made a bet with Jake I'd have to agree not to do that Cause then that's like tampering Then just don't make a bet with Jake Cause he'd rather be tamper You just want to send people to your poll It's alright, I can do that Let me know what's going on Anyways, let me know Let me know when that's gonna happen I'll advertise it I'll see myself out Alright, cool Alright, well I am So I say it Actually, I don't say it every day anymore I used to say it every day Anyways, that's my name I run Nintendo Prime I've been doing it for a while I just do Nintendo news And all that stuff I haven't heard that one 20 billion times Not for me Anyways, yeah But lots of love over everything else Makes it all worthwhile You gotta slurry it all together Like a nice little slush puppy slush eater Hey, why don't we get off camera and start sharing some love right now, Nate? He's in the show now What are you doing? As soon as you end it End it only when you want some love Alright, we're going for another hour On Mario Kart vs F-Zero I'm just gonna leave I'm just gonna leave Alright guys, thank you so much for tuning in We'll be back next week I think Sunbro Nation's coming on next week So that's gonna be fun I haven't finalized the guest list for next week But I know he's coming on next week So that's gonna be a lot of fun Otherwise, we'll catch you guys later One thing I will say If you want to tune into this after it's live On video on demand I would appreciate comments down below What you thought about doing an 8 person panel Often or not This is new for me I've never had this many people on the show before When you have 8 people on, Jake and I get really testy Apparently Besties Bye everybody