 And this one, Jack, has your name written all over it. So as a trainer for CFRE testing, can you share with the audience of the nonprofit show how this process works? And then also, if you go in a little bit further to let us know, Jack, is it worth the financial and the time investment that's required? Yes, so CFRE is Certified Fund Raising Executive. That's what the credential stands for. And yeah, it does take time. I run study groups. There are other study groups out there that you can engage in or you can engage it in a self-study program. CFRE on their website gives you lots of great things. But what I think is really important, what does the credential do for you in your career? And what it does is it shows that you are committed to the field. You're already showing you're committed to the field by attending the nonprofit show. That's a great commitment. This is also a commitment that you show to the field. It gives you credibility with your peers, with your leaders in your organization, with your boards and also with donors. And that's really important. It improves your career opportunities. There are more job opportunities for you. It improves your skills and it also enables greater earning potential. I love to tell the story of a woman who was in my study group, Jared. She had dropped out of the field.