 All right, I'd like to now, I would now like to call the August 22nd, 2020, of course, a registered board meeting to order. Uh, roll call. Uh, Rick. I'm just curious. John Hay. Here. Paul Mer. Yeah. Phillip Schruppelbeer. Schruppelbeer. Here. Al Wolman. Here. And Council Member Tim Waters. He might be late because he indicated that he was going to be here. Okay, so he's not a president. Okay. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Fine. Here, two lines. Yes. Um, can I get approval or the agenda? I haven't changed. You want to change that? It seems on. Well to so I would like to change the order that after we do public and body heard that we knew business A business A first. That way, our visitors don't have to stay here all night. It's as much fun as we want to be. So after public invited to be heard, if we could jump down to 7A. Got Jen heard 5A. I was like, that's what we do, everybody needs to be heard. I'd like to make a motion that we have heard the agenda as modified. Second. I do have a motion. Okay. So it states that Ryan moves. So we're on the agenda. We're going to have minutes yet. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Okay. So approval of tonight's agenda. Perfect. On to approval of previous months. Next. So I have one, two comments. It says that Ryan moves for the present and absent. I'm not sure. He was good. He was not there. He was not here. And then the other thing is, again, in revenue, we keep putting a decimal point. It's really 143%, not 1.43%, et cetera, et cetera, all the way through on both revenue and rounds. Although it will be a couple of points. So not where we're really at. And approval as modified. Second. All right. Number seven. What's up? I thought we just did the X and J here. You got a first and a second. Okay. Can we get a vote for the approval of the previous months next? Yes. All right. Relax today. Yes. Yeah. The GG is not that well. Nothing good. So public invited to be heard. We have a community members here. All right. So we'll skip to, as our agenda's been modified, to 7A, new business, information on anticipated 2022 election ballot questions. Hi. Hi. Becky Twell, director of strategic integration. We're here to share some information about items that are on ballot for November. I don't know if you're the best place to talk probably. The first thing we'd like to share is a video. Okay. In 2013, Longmont experienced a 100-year flood that resulted in over $53 million in damaged Longmont infrastructure. Area homes and businesses were damaged and bridges were flooded or washed away. In response, the city of Longmont initiated the Resilient St. Brain Project, which not only focuses on repairing what was lost during the flood, but also aims to assure that future floods are not as destructive as our community. Beginning in 2014, conceptual plans for improvements to the St. Brain Creek Channel and the necessary funding were established. Half of the required fund funding was approved by voters then, and this year, voter approval is needed for the second half. So far, these funds, combined with federal grant funds, have been used to expand channel capacity for the St. Zone Ranch to Sunset Street. We also replaced greenways, creating space for people, water, and wildfire. Several bridges that stand in St. Brain Creek within the city were replaced to allow increased flow levels to pass every year. These improvements have helped significantly reduce the extent of the flood line, so fewer properties are at risk of flooding. As we approach the final phase of the project, the city is ready to see voter approval for the second half of the funding. On the November ballot, voters will be asked to approve the issuance of $20 million in storm-drainage bonds to increase channel capacity from Sunset Street to Gover Street, protecting people, property, and infrastructure from future flooding risks. While the city continues to pursue grant funding for this next phase of improvements of the Resilient St. Brain Project, work cannot continue without additional funding in place. You can think of bond funding like taking out a mortgage on a house. Using bonds helps pay for needed improvements now, while spraying out the cost of those improvements over time. That means that both current and future users share in the costs more equitably. These are all considerations to keep in mind in voting. Here's some reasons why voter might be in favor of this ballot issue. And here are some reasons why voter might be against this ballot issue. A yes vote would allow the city of Long Island to issue $20 million in storm-drainage bonds, along with existing fund balances and adopted rate increases to complete Resilient St. Brain improvements to Gover Street. A no vote would mean bonds would not be issued. Adoptive rate increases would still take place. Those rate increases, plus existing cash balances, could be used for identified projects, but other funding sources would need to be found. The safety and resilience of our community and the face of future voters are essential. We ask you to spend some time researching the issues. Ask questions if you have them. And most importantly, vote. Vote. Learn more about the storm-drainage bond issue at LongLondColorado.gov.slashmallon. The election day is too big to remember even. So from there, in addition to the question regarding storm-drainage bonds, Sandy's going to make this look better. Maybe. Maybe. Hey. All right. Cool. In addition to the ballot question regarding storm-drainage bonds, we also have some additional ballot items in place on the ballot regarding the charter and some of the charter. So we're going to talk through both of those issues. I think the video probably told you a lot about this. Okay. So here's the disadvantage. I don't know if that's here. Provide some factual information about the style of issues. So why is this ballot item coming before you? In other communities, you might not see this type of ballot issue because enterprise revenue bonds can be issued without the public under TABER. So TABER has requirements about like towards improving new taxes and debt issuances of those tax financed funding streams. Hey. That's a little better. In this case, the storm-drainage utility is an enterprise under TABER. In other communities, we can see this kind of question. But there is a charter requirement in Long Rock that says that voters approve all issuances of debt. I think it's great because we can share information with you and make sure that the community is aware of the city. So just to reiterate, not a tax. Not a tax, not a tax financed bond. So these are a few photographs of some of the areas that were flooded in 2013. How many of you were here in 2013? Most. Okay. So you remember between what the project is, and essentially it's taking, personally it's a great project, and proves from the census you have over the street, necessarily animals have specific questions. And then again, that's the same equation from the video, that the outcome of the vote doesn't necessarily impact adopted reading reasons we already in the musical, but does that mean that it will be for slightly longer, same equation from the video about some reasons why folks might be in support of this valid question? And why those might oppose it? Let's talk about the charter and then do questions on goal. Okay. Sure. Great. Great. All right. Very good. Hello. Thanks. I'm here to talk about the charter and then since the city council is interested in running this ballot, there are two valid issues that the council has approved for your consideration. The first one really is the clean up and straight lining of the current charter. It includes things like what you see here includes the city to allow the city to use electronic signatures for documents. A lot of employees who don't split a lot of money to participate on retirement boards, right? Now you have to be registered to have their own city a lot of money to participate in our own retirement pension boards. Our administrative approval for lower than cost agreement with other governmental entities. So these are things we call the IJs and the government library events. See what I'm saying there? That's a good thing. Where really those become administrative approvals when they're at low rents and at low cost. A lot of new election rules with state rules. So right now the election calendar for the state actually has different dates in our election calendar. So we've been to very good state. It really is between the charter allowing city council members an option to end their term as they run their general position for council. So the ones that you see the first four, those are really a charterly up election issue. And the second one is a separate issue which allows council members to be able to design their seats respectively if they like to run for agency. Give you a little example that sounds kind of confusing. But if, for example, a council member would like to run for mayor. For example. And that council member would run for mayor. Now there's a vacant seat that now has to go through yet a second election. A subsequent special election. And you've heard the cost of both elections as opposed to if that council member were able to give up their seat at the time of running for mayor. You could actually run both seats at the same time. This is a voluntary option for candidates if they would like to be run for city council. And that fills that council spot right away. You may know this year we had a little setback where that did happen when council member ran for mayor. They did get that role. And then at the empty council spot we had a real hard time running for the whole election. It's a redistricting year. It's a census year. There's all sorts of problems. And nobody would help us. So we're waiting until November. That's a long time to wait for the set of council members. Our argument. So this is about language that you'll see for the first one about all the changes for straightlining and modernization of the conduct of city business. Those in favor believe that amending certain sections of the city charter in the one system up here would modernize and streamline the operations. But those opposed to say the residents should not change the charter which is the master document for city members. When it comes to the election one that I just talked about, here's the actual ballot reading that you'll see. Changing the cultural charter to allow for prospective vacation of current office. Those in favor believe that making this change would save money and time by not needing to conduct a special election. Making this change could help ensure that the mayor and his council members are showing the city without unnecessary agencies. But those who are opposed believe the residents should not change the charter which is the master document for city governments. And it's not clear that candidates will even use this option if it were available Okay, so like I said in the video it's important to make sure that you're educated on all the different issues and it's most important that you vote ballot to be in your ballot box if I didn't launch over the issue. So back to Mayor, both here to answer any questions that you have about any of these three ballot election issues. Going back to bond issues for a second. What determines the industry? The market. So when? After, so if the ballot question hasn't been asked vote, then at that point we could start the process of going to market for the bonds. So it's the point, it would be nine days after the election. So it's when the bond sale occurs there's a competitive, there's an option process. And so it's the interest rate that's prevailing in the market at the time that bonds are sold. Is there any issue about timing? Yes, absolutely. Because right now, it would be a horrible time to do this. Correct, yeah. So that's certainly something to keep in mind. But having the authorization doesn't necessarily mean that the sale would happen immediately. So the soonest it could happen is about 90 days after the election. But the project isn't scheduled until two to occur until 2024 or anything. So anytime between sort of January of 23 and when the construction needs to occur the, you know, our physical advisor could kind of market to make sure that the best interest rate available is what happens. You know, it's clear to me whenever they sit down because I know there'll be a lot of people that will be a certain group anyway and worry about if they're going to do it right now the interest rates will be way out. I hope that we could do maybe six months to a year from now. Right. Let's stay calm. I just need to comment. Jill Golden, who is the newest of our time, probably as good as a guess in terms of the H.E. financial office. Well, Jim would not be waded into a market without being real clear on what's the right time and what will be the refinance opportunities because that's the other part. As long as the interest rates come down we're just going to see that. So we're not locked into that for 20 years or 30 years without an opportunity. Jim, that's great. You know this. But I mean, part of the reason we're doing this is because all our friends and networks make sure that as well. It's really important information right now. Whatever it's worth. Thank you. How should this be unified? I don't know. Other than if somebody could explain that the time limit doesn't mean it's going to be done right away. Somehow I wish there was something in that it would explain if somebody were to read. Of course, it's the other issue. But if somebody were to read a little bit about it that doesn't mean as soon as this thing passes. But if you know of any nation now we're going to go out and sell some bonds. Thank you. I don't know. But only because of what's going on right now is more people are more in tune because of the interest rates and all the stuff that's going on in the center. I would think that would be one thing that would tend to have people not go for it. Unless they understood hey, we're going to do this at a lot of times. That's great. I was curious about the interest rates as well because most people like myself are going to throw across the bond and maybe it would be helpful if we knew what that interest rate would be. The other question I had is we mentioned sunset over. What is being taken out of the flood playing along that reach? There are some maps that are part of that valid webpage that you can take a look at. To a certain extent the improvements from sunset to over are going to complete the changes to the floodplain downstream of that. Some examples are the south side of the creek heading east from sunset and that's what is being taken out of the floodplain. So is this a supplement that has already been done for mitigation for that reach? The whole thing is mitigation. True, true, true. If we've already done the work on those easter reaches, why do I care about this and I'm just playing games. So this is really the last piece of those improvements so that the whole thing we have conceptual design the whole length of the creek within the city also. And it's going to happen. Yeah, there you go. That's kind of hard to see. The interesting thing is it takes the rest of that. It takes 100 years. It's currently in the floodplain. It enables the slip flow. It's going to be west of over. The whole plan is going to be about the slip flow design that moves water back into the channel. Which is only going to be done if we have 20 million dollars to make this investment. It takes 800 more acres out of the floodplain and it's still in the floodplain. It's all of the developed areas of the annexed portions of the city except that there's one commercial property in some of the floodplain. Okay, and again, just playing devil's advocate further. A lot of people are going to view this as okay, you're making this taking all of this space out of the floodplain for the riverside development. So I just heads up there and you might need some resistance with that. Second thing is there's a lot of news in the paper about the bank swallows. How do you guys intend to combat that? Oh, yeah. Sorry, Tim. Sorry, man. You're the one that's going to hear it, so. You're very cautious. So in the technical know, that was released in 2018 really talking about the conceptual design for this area. So obviously there's been a lot of conversation and counsel about that. We're aware of the bank swallows and we've committed to preserving the nesting opportunity in this area. We have specific nests that exist today but there will be that appropriate habitat to welcome the bank swallows back when they migrate this way and interact with the completion. I think the terminology is restore not preserve. Correct. The abacus one was the preservation which would have predicted the slip-down design and would cost millions and millions more. The restoration of the habitat is a different kind of approach and there's some evidence that it works to bank swallows that perspicuity about their nests is the environment and I hope you'll appreciate this in this decision where people and their property now don't care about bank swallows but we're going to first put people first and their property can then attend the bank swallow habitat restoration. That's fair. Like I said, we can double zone and get a bit of it. So I have a strong point of view on this one. Two more questions. Is this in any way affected by these golfers? Is this going to take us out and just let play if we're in one? I can't read your map. I don't know the answer to that. Second question. You're asking for mitigation between sunset and over. Are you going to come back five years from now and say I need to fix them over? It's a great question. There's not currently a plan for that. Certainly I think it would be a policy decision to continue the improvements and our recommendations would be to look at the cost and benefits of payment. Do you feel like this stretch is going to have significant benefit for all the work that's been done thus far and protect long-term? Yes. The way we do that is it's been through the few modes cost-benefit analysis calculator you just kind of segregated another question for me. So FEMA's kept in mind? We're done from FEMA? We may still get additional FEMA funding and so if we are successful in receiving additional flood mitigation grants that would offset the amount of money needed from a lot of issues and could certainly save a lot of money but the initial flood funding from FEMA we're wrapping up with the rest of the section so we've taken it literally as far as we can down the river and other federal funding GPR, we've had lots of funding sources because that might be a when we asked for the first $20 million in bottom money we said okay we know we get started we need flexible funding and so we then fit lots of different grant agencies to get us much farther down the river than the original $20 million investment because we could then target where those funds went to make sure that it would be used in kind of the toughest spots to be able to apply for a more down-to-acid project I was really able to find a coverage map so there's more information about would it take after me? So I'm totally sure actually when I look at this it looks like perhaps I think it does I think it does it takes care of the issues that back up on the Gulf Force because of what it has it's huge this Gulf Force is the one that does not fall apart I'm going to answer that question both on the effects on the water peaks and what's left in terms of going the additional reaches of the water costs Your thanks for all the questions I think we found some videos some photos that we did damage assessment in the first place from this and they already had kind of re-found their homes once everything flooded and came back without any help at all so with some help we think they'll be probably okay Thanks We have one of those really awesome fly away they have to run though there's a lot of swallows under bridges right now No questions on the charter amendments come on Stupid question, I assume we are the only people who are given this presentation too are you planning to do it to the NGLA? Yes and if you know what everybody else is interested, go free to let us know and we're happy to come and see with other folks we just spoke at museum board this is an advisory board Is it chamber having community communities in? They are, it's Friday I will I'll be there with the council for a little bit a couch talk at 4.30 Here's part of our council Hello I guess I'm a little funky but it's an outdoor living room we set up where the happy election officials come and discuss the rent shoes City council's at the 4.30 They didn't let me moderate them so Going back to the charter issue the very first thing that you have I just went through a process of 200 documents and I had to sign and I had I did it once by hand which took about an hour and a half and the other was electronic I did that in about 10 minutes It was incredible it was just wonderful to be able to do that right this person It makes it a lot faster and we have 5, 7, 6 cultures I got a man You made that fast My first year around Are you scheduled to come to Park Street right forward? I don't think we are Are we scheduled for Park Street? I don't think we are Are we scheduled for Park Street? Yeah So sort of relating When does the bike path open on your left hand that's been closed because of the work that's been done and that should be a good question to have You didn't have to follow up Josh had said fall fall? Yeah and he said yes and you might help out for your work I was really looking forward to having that done but then there is work that will start on the next reach which is for the art department years That's by Isaac Walton Yeah So will that be closed? Will that be allowed? Isaac Walton, the building? Yes Okay, current status for construction that is this one right here that is Isaac Walton Yes So quarter 3 of 22 is construction and I think that will be open a little bit for all of us and for everyone So I also want to be gracious Well I think it's actually like the red part that is behind the left hand I can't see where that is I'm just telling you the fences are up You can't You can't ride a bike through this I think he said fall It should be there Well isn't the bridge being replaced to Boston? Yes Yeah I want to ask you one more question If that bond issue goes down can you at a later date bring it back up again? Yes That's part of the reason for going this year is that you're here So you can still bring it up again because right now everybody's scared to death Nobody wants to spend any money at all and you know I'm the business chair all the time so I just know what's going on and it's just a horrible time to come out and quote that Sure I'm going to issue bond at some point in the next 18 to 24 months it's going to help us time It's a horrible time to do this I'm very sure What are we seeing right now? You touched that last question about where the bike passes but we'll make sure you bring it back because I would hate to tell you this Come on Tomorrow I guess Thank you I really appreciate it Thanks for everything you do for our hearts and conditions We really appreciate your advice and your involvement in our community Thank you I'll be back in 15 minutes Alright So Thank you Thank you Thank you Absolutely We had a chance to look at the sub packet That was a revenue Pretty good huh? Yeah Through July revenues are up 90,000 around or down 364 So the revenue if we generate it around that's what we do The increases that we get this past year membership sales have increased tremendously after the $8,000 revenue membership sales Right now people are spending money but your last comment I got an email today from the golf course orders association the three question what are we going to do when we start seeing down I didn't answer it but I'm looking forward to seeing what their what the general census is going to be on what we're going to do as an industry So far with COVID it's been wonderful you guys try to make tea time of course it's a bowl it's been very good golf is still strong I don't see it going down yet but I think it's something we definitely need to keep our goals on keeping my out of it I also wanted to mention last month I mentioned to you guys that I lost all of my car from an HDAP Danny put out an email you guys see that I got six kids tired it was wonderful so I don't know if you guys put the word out at all but I appreciate that with our jobs being seasonal we get a lot of high school and college kids and about the middle of August we're scrambling to get the staff and this year's going to be the worst I don't regret that so thank you guys for talking to me I'll go ahead and do Sunset Ryan's not here Sunset continues to be a good course to talk about this is an actual revenue year today $3.776.21 for the year out of 15.44% so on face to cash it's a tremendous year at Sunset probably easily a record break they are doing great over there and for everybody that went to the celebration that was pretty cool that was pretty cool and say everybody out there and to celebrate 100 years a lot of folks had a good time saw a lot of smiles so that was really good very exciting we were continuing to just hang right in there year to date we're up 6.9% we had a great month in July it's amazing what we're projecting and how far we're coming in over those projections and still $16,000 over what we did last year which was a good year and this month is looking really good as well I agree with Sam things are going to change hopefully not too much hopefully what we have is a lot of new golfers that have come out of this and the hope is that they keep playing and that just continues I'm very fortunate because I think we've really grown the game during this time and a lot of people that wouldn't have played golf out of the golf the hope is that they just continue playing golf that's about all for 20 weeks I'd say that while I'm here tomorrow I'd better talk a little bit more so I'll say more in a few minutes thank you so I would say the golf players for those of you that I was standing include that in your packet the three areas that Paul had brought up have been those changes that have been made and unless there are other changes that someone would recommend that I think we're ready for to approve the buy-offs I'm going to improve as long as there's amendment I'll second all in favor all right maybe it would be quite that long all right back to you business presentation Ryan yes Ryan why you're doing that you just roll my arm all right so right now I'm going to double team I'm just going to do the operation side gone this year maybe kind of take everyone through a little different snapshot how it all works we had let's see several outside events their corporate events company called CEU supply company out of Boulder our Sue Wesley had their big tournament here we're used to Twin Peaks primarily for fundraisers so a lot of my high school alumni had a fundraiser the American Legion held a fundraiser dance convention throughout the fundraiser Silver Creek they had a fundraiser Skyline Football raised $12,000 in their fundraiser it's a term order replace it's having a fundraiser on 910 and on that same day we have a double shotgun University of Colorado hockey team just having a fundraiser here it's an idea of all the different tournament type events that we run we're going to end up hosting five high school tournaments between the girls and then three boys events this fall 17 men's club events starting in March actually April every Thursday we have two groups of women that play the 18 holders have 24 players and 9 holders have 30 to 36 players that's every Thursday all summer then we are competitive events we run the Spring Invitational here at Twin Peaks we might do a ball but it's still a chance and then the Bulldog City Championship which is run by all three golf courses which had 106 players this year everything remarkably smooth it really did go well it say half the players now are coming in from out of long month which is kind of neat because we're bringing people to our golf courses from out of town when we're supporting the event so that's really cool to that end the Colorado Golf Association we're going to be a mid-am qualifier here in a couple weeks on Monday in September here and then the evenings on Monday nights we have what we call the Bob League and the Suez League on Tuesday nights we have the Array League and the Nurses' Base Production League Wednesday nights we have the Sweets Clots League which is about 30 to 40 women and that league and the DD League and the Suez League so we have three leagues on Wednesday nights so we send them off both nights Thursday nights we have what's called the Ted League which is our longest running league and they have 40 people that play these things happen every single week all summer long then Junior Golf I love you women I describe Junior Golf Carolina we have first step and next step and we have 12 next step sessions and we get 10 first step sessions so the next step are the overkicks there's a playing component to that that playing component generated 232 rounds for the little ones after they finished so they went out and played 232 of them in the course and some went out and played 9 goals so that was really awesome and first step events is the summer league what it is like in kind of just a week we've got to talk about some of the bigger events but very different in all three golf courses we have such diversity in all three golf courses and Sam has a whole bunch more corporate dense ball area space was there last week lot more corporate stuff there and then a lot more fundraisers here because our price is cheaper which means if you're running a fundraiser so it just makes sense so that just kind of gives you an idea of how things are from weeks and I wanted to say too that I can't say enough about what I'm in this group my goodness but of course we have a going on 50 year old irrigation system and they chase leaks all summer and they put the water where it needs to be it ain't goodness but nature helps us out the last couple of years the courses are the best conditions it's been in all year it's the greenest it's been and by the way I'm in this group the city tournament I can't tell you the feedback we got was so nice to have a guy play 18 goals and I have one complaint everyone did not stop reading about how good the greens were and how great the golf course played and I got to go out and practice the course and kind of mark the course for how we wanted it set up so we actually put a lot of thought in it making the golf course present really well for the players and give them a chance to really shoot a good score so it was really neat so I can't thank him enough in this group and I can't thank Jeff enough for kind of how do I say trusting us and empowering us and giving us the ability to go and do what we need to do to get things done and that for us it's really been great all right I'm going to talk about some of the maintenance stuff I'll kind of go over the projects we have kind of a mover to the future some little information for the rest of the year and there will be room for any questions if anyone has it so we'll get started the year with doing a three weeks project out of date one of our largest projects we've had so far this year was the car path renovation on five p-box the car path that we've had in the works for the past year and a half and COVID had to disrupt the scheduling of it the company we had scheduled for had well too much work got enough workers last year and we kind of got pushed off of this year we finally got it done and it was finished up June 17th this year so this kind of presents a four after both of the areas here so now we have a little bit of car path it goes from the restrooms to the five p-box area with the turnaround area by the janity on five and also you notice here on the lower right hand one we also laid some sod and put in sprinklers so if anyone who's been familiar with the area knows that this for the longest time has been a big dirt bank now has had grass stored growing on it all along into the sprinklers and the sod that was put in that area so we're going to be happy that it finally happened and I think it's a great improvement in that area we'll be have a good visual improvement for the golfers team and also some big use area so one of the other projects that I had done this year is not as exciting was replacing this full screen closure here in the parking lot this is important it is important so the only closure of the four supports had one that was still saving all and the other three of them were broken off in the ground so had a company come in review the whole enclosure so now the two support beams in the front are now metal I-beams so they won't crack under the pressure of the gates when they're opening closed Sanitation department really appreciates not having to fight with the gates every time they come to get the trash at the golf course so not as exciting as Carpath but equally as important one of those things that needed to get done it's added a little bit of visual improvement out there in the parking lot for everybody I can tell you somebody who takes the trash out of you you just didn't know what you were going to get when you were opening that thing before and now you just kind of pull that little black handle down and it opens up real nice you can see kind of faintly here he barks the old gate yeah black top to make it a little harder without this one no problems I'm not kidding it's real nice I'll just go give it a little go before you leave so we have that done and also I'm the agenda for this year one to get that is a renovation of the women's restroom on the golf course this was something that we did the men's side I believe it was last year already because the whole wall that separates the two restrooms was really unstable so if you ever been in there that's because that wall didn't have the support needed for the sinks so the construction crew that came in went that in from the men's restroom side that's where all the piping and access was so this year I still need to call and get some pricing I want to get the women's restroom updated like the men's room so we will have stalls so this is the men's room on the right just to give a visual example of the colors so the green stalls will be painted the kind of tan beige color and then the white walls will get repainted and the RFP board that separates here where the gears are when we're done this will be nice shiny white so this is something I still have on the docket for this year I just wanted to do it once the golf course plate kind of slows down because it will make the golf course the restroom unusable for about a week or two and after earlier this year after we had some issues not being able to get any temporary restrooms I figured it was better to be done in the slower season of the year so once we started getting here towards the fall started getting some pricing and fit this project moving the biggest project we have going on here's just a little brief update on the Twin Peaks irrigation system so earlier this year we went out put a bit out for the entire irrigation system with pump stations and the controllers we piped in the ground it came in over budget and we kind of had to regroup and figure out what path we wanted to take so we decided since we had enough money to do the pump stations we actually turned this into purchasing two weeks ago and purchasing is currently working on getting the official bid together and this will go out the bid here in the first part of September for programming at the two new pump stations tied into the whole irrigation system so that way the heart of the irrigation system will be updated and then from there in November we'll be going out the bid for the rest of the system along the sunset so it's kind of going to make it a two part project now so this right here kind of gives a little example here on the left of a schematic of what our new pump stations look like this here on the right is kind of a brief overview of where the new pump stations will be tied into the existing irrigation system the existing irrigation system is the red and the new stuff is the blue so once this portion is done and we move on to the new stuff whatever company comes in we'll be able to tie in where the blue is without disrupting around the pump stations and then move out from there to the new piping whenever that phase gets started and we'll send the presentations for Twin Peaks and New Creek up to you tomorrow so that it's really hard to read yet but that way we can get on the PDF like this I tried to clear it up but it's just small from workers so as part of this portion of it that I'm here will also be in the new central computer which will be a great asset for the new pump stations the new central and the pump station will be able to talk to each other and that way they'll know the computer will know what the pressure is on the system and the pump station will know what the computer wants to do so they can work hand in hand to optimize how the system runs so it'll be more efficient say power less water unlike the system we have now where we plan for how it runs but it might not run that way something similar always runs the same way twice when we set it up we're right in the north where's the central computer located the central computer is down at our maintenance shop so it'll be on site? yeah it'll be on site so it'll be a physical computer on site but part of the software is it can be remotely accessed through an app so like currently now I have access to Twin Peaks and sunsets through the different apps so if something ever happened it can be adjusted on the fly from afar or if I'm in the field working on something you can send out a signal to the system to test something from in the system instead of having to run back to the shop test it and run back out to see what you're doing cool test and I assume you can stop the system if it's raining all I can stop it I don't know if it'll be part of this phase or the second but there will be a weather station at some point so in this part it'll be right now where we communicate with the clubhouse staff hey is it raining? hey it's raining in here you guys should come take a look and then we'll shut it down which this year we've actually had to do an awful lot with these random rainstorms we've gotten in the area but nature always is the best sprinkler system when you can get it any other questions on this time I assume that you know how much water you're using now yes we have a lot because what's going to be really important when you get that done is to be able to say okay we were doing this amount of water and now we're going to use this amount of water and bring that home because I was in charge of our system in our H.O.A we had a thousand heads and it was put in 1986 and it's still there right and I had somebody sit all all the seven problems you're running into oh my god so anyway just we had you know people coming in inspected for water and what we're doing they're buying all this kind of stuff and one of the things that we did do is we changed the heads there were a thousand heads and they were pressure sensitive we are at this relatively small area but you can go two blocks that way and the pressure would be one way you go two blocks this way the pressure would be something else and you're trying to say okay I want to put on a an inch of water over three days or whatever the case may be but if each over here and each over here it'd be entirely different and so by putting these heads that were sensitive to pressure we actually reduced our water by 25% and the grass was as green as it ever was and so and the nice thing about for us because we were part of the H.O.A we went in for a grant we got the grant paid for it and etc so but if people are going to criticize you or criticize us at any point in time we definitely want these these statistics and figures to prove that what we're doing is the right thing well this not here it's a little scary this is a small portion of it but unlike a residential system that's kind of a hairy bone you have your water and it moves out this new system will be completely looped so one area will be getting water from numerous directions that help even the flow and the golf course and right now this system we currently have the heads will throw about 90 gallons a minute at 110 feet at 100 PSI the new system is designed to do 65 to 70 feet throw at 60 PSI and the heads will throw about 60 gallons a minute so already on paper we're already ahead of savings and we'll be we'll be moving from currently we have around I believe it's 800 sprinkler heads and we'll be going up to 1400 sprinkler heads just because of that spacing that shrinks down which will make it a lot less room for air if it's ever windy any dips of pressure so you don't have as much throw for it to have those bad spots that have it in between the heads so it'll be a lot more to be performed in types than this current system we have the point's good with them every time whether it's the river set development or any other project first question is do you have enough water and we're not far away from people arguing that the golf courses are unnecessary luxury we don't have enough water which is not true but having those data would be really powerful you've heard the past couple of weeks or so of the National Limits is the Colorado River hey Brian I have a separate question about the gold crushers and in general I'm able to spend a fair amount of money putting them on for golf courses can you just tell me real quick how you kind of maintain that I know that from the tee box at 9 to the club house at Sunset with the plane kind of building gullies you know the turn around at 8 getting worn out same thing here in the back of 5 a little bit between 10 or 11 how do you maintain that do you drag it like a baseball field and what do you do so the gold crushers we use or the red crushers we use at Sunset I believe Creek has used some of the same product so it's a crushing material and it has a binder in it it's called stalock when it gets the moisture in it you pack it down and eventually over time it will harden its concrete but it does almost like concrete but it does when it does get wet get a little soft so in high rainstorms it does tend to flow a little bit but the way we would maintain it is you either get a device like a box blade or we have a scarifier on the back of one of the sand pros you rip it up a little bit put down new material and then you just compact it and then just keep compacting it in the middle cause I think all the rain is having an effect on it it's a few places where it's somewhere at Sunset on number 9 we are learning that it's not probably the greatest how do you mean great and that great is a lot steeper than we thought but the guys over there have been the goys as they can and trying to patch it as much as they can it's just an ongoing you see it, put it down you pack it and we have some extra stuff around the maintenance shops to fix any pop over goys that come up as you go through the year thanks alright the next slide is another upcoming one here for this is this is slide of 2043 projects so up there we have the irrigation system replaced that we hope to get going any address any items on the fixed asset inventory we have so everything we have on the golf course it'd be like fridges or heating tables up here kind of air compressors at the shop the toolboxes all we put a life on them so every year we address what things need to be replaced so each year we put a fixed set of money to go through that list and then replace any items we need to each year which also kind of goes into the next one where we'll be replacing the driving range picker so the picker part on the front of the tractor out there will be replaced it's definitely seen as wear and care over the past what would you say I think is he I've been here 17 years and it has to and it wasn't me then no I can't say that for sure we had one replacement well we went to the tractor we went to the tractor retrofit of the tractor we had to get a different picker at that time so that's probably 7-8 years so it's definitely time to get a new one it gets pushed around it gets pushed around I'm sure if we put an odometer on it it gets pushed around quite a few miles out there around that driving range then one of my other projects I have going on is replacing sections of the title here around the clubhouse we have on the left here the far north end you can see by the picture a little bit it's starting to push towards the parking lot we have this picture in the middle where one section was already brought out and fell over and then this picture here on the right it's pushing towards the ditch so next year you can find a construction company and decide how much of this Taiwan we need to tackle and that will be on the projects for 2023 looking forward is your project number sort of we're going to see this project because PRO 191 PRO 191 so this is the idea and this is what we have proposed Harold the city manager will be presenting the budget next week to council and council bills through September and October with budget meetings and sometime in October we'll find out what council approves but we'll see to see how people are doing on the 30th PRO 191 PRO 191 this will be out there what next we have here is coming up can I say something about that container wall that's the first thing somebody sees when they pull it in there so you know, you have to make sure that they sell it over there the last couple years it's really been our goal to improve the golfer experience out here as much as we can but the visibility is very important one of the challenges we had with the 2018 bond election which was a great thing because it brought in $6 million to the to the golf fund one of the challenges golfers don't get to use the maintenance building at U Creek and everything else is below ground still very important things but we're really trying to put an effort into replacing or making improvements that have a direct impact on the golfer in their experience and on the side those are important because your golf courses will look better for the golfers the next one here is coming up here under a month a small aeration at Twin Peaks was scheduled September 13 so I have a little video here of when we did this last year so we're going out with the solid coatings that are going to vent the greens a little bit it's an air, it's a nutrients it will water down into some surface of the greens and open them up for the year and that way it will help reduce the compassion that we put on the greens so this kind of a year we definitely start seeing some of the wear and tear on the greens from all the mowing, rolling and everything else to keep us up in good tournament conditions so this is just to help get the greens healthy going into the winter and so this is our operation in the next slide I have here so this is we're doing the same thing we did last fall at this time so on the left is a closer up picture of the times we're going to use they're either an X or a plus depending on how you look at it and that way it increases the amount of surface area that we're putting the time into the ground but it's not making a bigger like a hollow time so this way it heals a lot quicker so this picture here is the after the area last year so after this we roll hot press, put down our fertilizer drain them smooth and water them in and then this picture here is about a week later where everything is going through and you can see just in those seven days it's already made a huge difference on recovering back to where it was almost before the operation and then I don't have any other pictures past this but then another week after that it's like it never happened so that's what we plan to do here at Queen Peaks coming up on the 13th of September and the next one here I don't understand what you're going to do here's a picture of the Queen Peaks maintenance crew or should I say what's left of us so right after this we did lose four college students so right now this is what I have left here at Queen Peaks including myself to do the daily operations on the maintenance staff so there's seven there's seven of us taking care of well eight counting me counting and taking care of the golf course of daily operation, mowing set up, cutting cups irrigation, planting work on equipment so just like Sam mentioned it's that time of year where we lose seasonal health and it's kind of do it over again to get through the shoulder months then next thing you have anyone has any questions for me other than what's asked I've got a stupid question that goes back to what we talked about before sure it turns out RHEA and the person that works with our system is the person that maintains the St. Graham school district system and one of the things that the St. Graham school district system has done is they've got a product to put on all of their graphs which allows the graphs to go deeper into the ground which means you use less water so we decide to do that in RHEA and use the product and it has helped dramatically and I don't know if anybody would ever question you about what's your soil like on your golf course if people start really getting crappy about this and so I don't know what it is I don't know we actually had people come out and we're certified to look at the clay our soil and and then after we put the product on and it really made a difference and it really helped us reduce the amount of water that we were using and so you know St. Graham school district does it and they've made huge steps in that direction and so I don't know if it's something that golf courses consider looking at or not looking at or whatever but at some point in time and there are companies now that they have products that you can use just for that purpose based on the type of soil that you have and I don't know if it's a mere one looking at or not but so just going off of how you explain it I'm sure Dan will have the same stuff but it sounds a lot like a waiting agent or a small surfactant that helps the water get down through whatever your stuff but what it really is is that dilution of the soil, I hate to say that but sort of but what it's really about is allowing the grass roots to go deeper into the ground and our grass roots were about like that and now they're like that and that makes a big difference in not only water you have to use to that screener but if you're really interested I'll give you a whole bunch that way that'd be great Dan, thanks Dan and I also do every year throughout the year be with agronomists in the area that come out and do soil samples so we can so we do know how much we need for what our ground soil is and what we need to add from different areas so we do take a look at all that different stuff and see what the course of duty can help us with a little better I just brought it up because that's a generation that they jump up at some point in time before Dan gets going I just want to say we're fine with explaining relative to the verification of the greens and those pluses or x's and that whole regeneration process from an operation standpoint that the golfers don't need to hardly know that we're doing it and then the golf course is very flavorful so when you do a springer application and we pull cores out I mean it is destructive and it takes forever for the grass to grow back it's a full six weeks before you finally have a really good surface again and this happens very quickly and even while it's happening the ball still rolls good people can still cut good so I really appreciate that they're doing that to help us revenue-wise in the fall doing it this way as opposed to pulling cores because people will call are you pulling cores? No, I'm not and then they'll make the tea time so we'll do it next, go ahead Dan alright, so I'll talk about some projects that we got going on this year at U Creek and then to you that we have going on for next year also so it's 2022 projects we started this one as the number 10 approach so we did this drain it was pretty early in the spring but if you play out there, this is back at the beginning of the ditches right here so this area, it's kind of all bent grass, it's just over time it kind of turns back grass, takes over the right grass so it gets really spongy in that area if you have a little pitch or a chip shot in there it gets so spongy that it'll just grab your club and you wouldn't be able to get a good lot so this has helped out a lot in fact, on the irrigation too as you can see, it's got a little drier than we would like over here but I think this project has helped out with this approach a lot I think it's a lot more playable this year than it had been in the past and it's worked out pretty well any questions about it or anything most of you guys play out there so you probably have seen it and then we added a lot of irrigation this year mostly to the first side and number 13 this is the path over here but this is a picture kind of hard to see but you can see in the picture here there's you can see where the irrigation was hitting and where it wasn't so with that we put pads all along this path here kind of in between so it's really helped out that's as luscious as it's ever been probably since the day the place it was built it was much water to handle because there was a couple spots that got a little wet out here so it's adjusting all the time getting out there and seeing what's wet and then right inside when you get into the pewter you can adjust percentages we'll start at 100 I think we have it down to about 50% so I think it runs half the time that it would if it was for the ET that we put in there so it's probably run about we did one in the late fall last year on 17 too and that one has most grass it's been out there a long time too and the reason that's significant everybody is people hit the ball right on number 13 pretty much all the time because you get it left during the hazard of the houses so they hit it right well before when there was no irrigation there and not enough irrigation that ball was rolling right over the hill right across the path into the hard pan this is going to hold a lot of balls up as they get off that right side of that fairway so that's great homeowners you know the balls don't get all the way out there it just gives a better look it helped out a lot one guy pretty much did all the work too so he was out there for 2-3 weeks just now thinking away at it he likes to just kind of go heights out there and he did a great job this is the area that we're going to use that's something that I talked about last one so this is 12 the area where carts not supposed to with a lot of blue flags out there these days so they wear that out we put ropes here this will just clean it up and then we can open it up with those blue flags this is on 10 same type of deal you can see this area here we put a type of material in it before it was more of a hard plastic honeycomb type stuff it worked for maybe a couple of years but as you can see it didn't do it it was supposed to it just kind of wore itself back out and this is number 2 to the west side of number 2 where everybody likes to drive down there so this will help clean that up we'll get that it'll go about 4 feet out in the length of that and then we'll kind of restock the other area hopefully that will help clean up that area and then probably a couple more three right in that area and number 6 I think is on our list we have a lot of material to do to do all those areas other projects that we've done this year is in the early screen you know everybody talked about how bad it was coming out of the screen and it was so we did a lot of repairing on where areas out there we bought a lot of portable sprinkler heads that we could put out in different areas we got a lot of seed, sand topsoil compost that helped that going and we got a good majority of them filled and there's still a few that will take some time but it's better than it was in the spring and then right before the city turned a couple of weeks before that we topped off all the green side markers you forget about how many shots that hit out of the air and sand or the wind blows all that sand out of there so there's a couple number 6 to the battle that you don't realize it until you kind of hear about so we went and checked them all and topped off all the green side we had plans this year of doing fairway bumpers but I think people kind of like fairway bumpers to be a little more firm and be able to kind of pick it out of there where on the green side you want to get under it so that's where we shifted our priority there to the green side instead of the fairway bumpers this year and then there was a couple patches up on the deck up there when one of our guys walked we hired kind of counters walking and he almost sank right through a whole spot so some of the boards had brought it out up there so we got a construction company up there they just kind of cut the it was an inch plywood and they cut that out and re-did it and then re-patched it so those were three of the projects we've done so far and I forgot to put it in there but we are going to re-do the parking lot up there September 19th so they're going to come and do that which is way overdue so coming back on the 20's we should have a new new parking lot re-striped and re-paid or laid over so that will be a big improvement we're going to get to that and then this stuff is projected for 23 so this is the retaining wall on number 11 you can see how it's splitting and all this is gravel that's falling through there and this has actually been put together a little bit by our city staff the operations guys went out there and tore the whole wall down and kind of rebuilt it and it looks great right now so we are trying maybe to get them to do the other side and save us maybe $100,000 but it's going to come down to what the engineers think if it needs to be done but an actual geomagnetic firmer or something like that but they did a great job and it's holding on really well right now so that's one of them for 2023 which will take a good part of our CFP budget if that's what we're going to do and then we want to finish the path on number 13 with the with the crusher materials and then there's some stuff that's starting to wear up on the clubhouse like around the printers around the cottage up there maybe some of their few areas up there there's a railing down there that's getting a little loose-modulated and some quotes on that so that's some of the other couple of products that we have coming up for 2023 around the clubhouse and then these are these are our guys, mine guys right here mine is a couple of the other full-time guys that were on vacation last week but yeah we can't do it without without our help we have a couple more than Ryan does but we have a few more acres too so yeah those are the ones that make a hand happen but on a plan I can't do it without without a lot of help so I appreciate those guys a lot that's about it for you Greek anyway any questions for you Greek I'm going to do the third one right now yeah no I don't have big problems this has been the night here for the last two months I mean did something happen? no nothing happened well the irrigation we had a irrigation problem it looked like something happened so yeah it was just it just burned the irrigation satellite went out and they trip every once in a while and if you don't catch it it doesn't turn itself back on or anything so you gotta go find a problem and it happened late June we got it back it was doing pretty good it happened in July again we sorted the front the front right and the front left and we gotta do a little bit more in the back so it's a little rough right now we'll take a lot of top dressing some mowing we're going to go to a temporary green on number three for till Friday morning Friday morning we'll open it back up it's not going to be 100% there's going to be grass there so we'll get it back give us a couple weeks and three green we'll keep up with the rest there are 25 older irrigation systems you drink as well I mean I've just been playing here a long time I've never seen him play I've never seen him play Dan's got to work with out there they're doing a great job there's a couple of sleepless nights because of that I think that's the reason I was surprised with the time around I've never seen him the greens were really good this year but somebody told me hey, the green is great I said yeah the increase in challenge to make it a wall-to-wall green because of all the hills, insulation and the rubs you keep those greens in the fairways flood if the fairways is right they can stay over the draw we're kind of more a fan of them because if the rubs are a little bit dry we're going to have a little bit of a dryer or a thick flush but Dan used to do less water and the horses played with fur and asked him hey, are you going to do that? any items on the board? I don't have anything the risk of people getting the wrong impression we got them but I had this question asked what is the city where the horses have any sort of policy or procedure with regard to doing recyclable trash if they do but we we don't have the receptacles yet we're working with sanitation and we'll have those in the club houses at least that's all we need to do we collect all the cans and we put them in a safe room and of course there are guys that go around on their device every Sunday and they separate the trash from the cans I play level 7 and they always segregate the trash to some degree but I don't think we have official signs and our guys they actually do wow, yeah something I'm just curious I went to the 100 100 year meeting or celebration at sunset so I decided to go around and introduce myself to a lot of people there and I said my name is John Haiti and I'm on the board and I want to thank you for coming to our meeting to our celebration we really appreciate it and if you have any comments that you would like to bring up I've got a board meeting Monday night and so it's you I would like to share with you when I got the feedback I got back and the other thing probably around 300 people went through I think about 225 230 hot dogs ran out of what do you call it but I think there were about 300 people the other thing I noticed the majority of people were seniors maybe because they got the time to be able to go there and all that kind of stuff etc so most of the people I talked to were seniors one of the issues that came up by a couple of ladies was why don't we have a bathroom on the fifth home at sunset they said they really complained about since we got there now the two they said they thought it was just a disgrace of how we were being maintained what I didn't do was go and ask them what was wrong etc they just like complained about that they said can't you just bring a wire line from the street over to put some clothes in you've got a portion built just finish it off that was one of the issues that a couple of ladies had another issue that came up in multiple times was a calling for tea times and we didn't answer at the golf course so I went to to the word of Chicago or whatever it is and they said they just thought that was terrible and I said well look if you don't, all you have to do is take them back to the golf course so I did interact with a couple of people but that was an issue that they had for whatever that's worth somebody else came up is anybody familiar with the ditch that used to happen at sunset some people some people there said I've played this course since I was 7 years old and he was about 70 years old right now and he said we need to put that ditch back at sunset and I said I didn't know I knew what you were talking about and he said no I'm only kidding but he did bring that out so from there was the ditch so you can include it you want to talk about water problems yeah it was a sandstone ditch so it was made out of sandstone pieces of sandstone that ran across started about halfway down number one in Dave Orvis's yard went across number one went up the hill on number two top of the hill on number two it fed in right over there and then it dropped down and the ditch itself still exists because you can hear it going down number three but they had it filling in because it was just leaking everywhere it was really cool, it wouldn't be wrong as a kid I thought it was the neatest thing ever but it was not functional that was the problem the oh there was a couple there that said they just played it up in Lublin and one of the things that they had in Lublin that they really liked was a senior couple's lead and would we ever consider having it here here at sunset or one of the golf courses etc. I don't know he said I thought he was going to move down to Longmont but he wanted to know whether any place for that or not or what you do or what you don't do somebody like that used to step up and just formally there's like a family interested in that because we can't do that I don't know how we can't start our own the leagues come to us we might we might be able to help out with the process but somebody that has an interest like that they need a perfect person we can help them with marketing it okay I understand I couldn't like this and I just bring up the meeting Sam we had a group there that just raged about your staff they raged about your staff they made them they said you were definitely wonderful they went down and started making they made them so that's funny the way I work at you another thing somebody wanted to know why don't we open the screen up on 3rd Avenue over there and just as an aside I was playing there in January with three guys and they were hitting it from the blue teams and one of them really was really good and he hit the ball 300 yards without even trying anyway he hit the ball from the 13 on the blue and hit the tree at the top of the rise on the 3rd yard and then there's that big tree up there he hit the top of that tree into the 3rd Avenue and the 3rd Street and a car came by and hit windshield and broke it and you know the neighbors he went out and took it and everything was fine but well he said he had been considered several times but the cost was so so much we just couldn't afford to do it so I didn't answer that's a perfect answer okay let me that's why those trees are there those trees do up a little bit right there on the right side see why do I think of that jeez they never fall they never fall well that's also true that's also true so the other thing though that was common all the way through everybody grieved about the conditions of the courses this year with peace and sunset they just grieved about how wonderful the course conditions were so really everybody couldn't say enough nice things about the free courses these things that brought it up were sort of you know they weren't really except the toilet so that was that was when I got back I had talked probably about very important people most of them were you know the tables and everything like everybody thought what we were doing was fantastic so that was really nice I just want to pass that on to you I think what you did was great Brian I have a question for you so the bathrooms over there they're not supposed to be public bathrooms the maintenance and sunset so you know those two real bathrooms no no in the court they were talking about the fifth the fifth hole that's what they did John what Al is talking about is literally 75 yards from where those port parks are at if they drive across southern fairway into the maintenance area there are bathrooms right there yeah they have a bathroom there's no way we're going to spend $200,000 to put bathrooms I know man I didn't know there were bathrooms I didn't know there were bathrooms here and there were a couple of the elders they said where do you get free cars again yeah thank you very good free cars again I said I like what I need too so the free cars were a special we ran to bring people to the golf course with the number of folks that are playing golf right now there is not a need to run a special and until things may change then we would revisit that and it may never come back because what we will do first is go to dynamic pricing which then sets the price for everyone not just a specific segment of the golfing population our answer because we get that a lot in the creek as well when you get the senior special on Wednesday you know we have a senior special Monday to Friday we have five days we have a senior special we just don't get free parts anymore what do you ever consider you know to the past add the car keys to I think for the seven day week pass right how much to add cars to that I can't get the free cars so I know I can get membership like yours or here or there we have the free cars now that's a car oh you're talking about you can pay you can pay these deep membership we get this a lot I don't know so what if you add a car to that I think that's no we can because so many people rather this walk so Al to answer your question in a different way though if you bought the elite membership which I think we sell an elite membership for all three courses for $3,500 $3,500 that includes free fees and rainfalls all three courses that would be or you could buy individually you just wanted to buy one for you and you buy one for you and you get your free cars out there and you pay when it comes to the other courses what you have is the annual pass you pay a u speed and then you pay a car fee but there is an option now $3,500 get all the math and see which one makes the list I have one other item I'm almost 84 years old and I've come to make meetings and I've got listen I can't see these people etc would anybody consider just having a picture of all of us together or something would that ever be something that we could do we can do that next month let's make sure that Marshall's here as well this is so that I can look at him we were in Nathan's so that would be all for you guys thank you I'll do my hair next month we're in each one I'll move to a turn is that it? I'll favor I I'll take some baby I can't thank you you're welcome