 Welcome to Toffy TV. It is the Footie Show daily. Now do we have some more clarity after the weekend of when the Premier League is going to start? It's an odd one this because it depends on who you listen to over the weekend. You either feel like the Premier League is very, very close to coming back or isn't coming back at all. It depends on what you listen to but certainly from the point of view of I suppose the football clubs it does seem like there are definite plans in place and I think some teams have even retaining this week to come back to training. Yeah, Arsenal Westam and Brighton I think it is have all gone back today. Or be it there's still some social distance and measures in place for them but the training with the training ground. Not using the buildings, they're just using the pitches, spaces between them and doing, they've got their own ball and stuff like that. I suppose potentially that's a way of doing it if you're maintaining your distance but you're right, there was stuff over the weekend I think you were saying before. Gary Neville was saying he doesn't see how it can because he's got the messages he's receiving for his hotels and his restaurants, they're very different than what's being put out for football but for me football will be viewed very differently anyway. We've already seen Formula One, I've said this season starting in July. The Bundesliga is still going for a May the 9th. Returning to football they started training last week or a week before. So there's some sport and events that are beginning to put themselves in place. Just numbers that won't be really. Well they are but I mean the Bundesliga is saying May the 9th. May the 9th is very close to 27th of April today. So you're talking what, 12 days? That seems... That to me seems bizarre. It's not realistic to me. This is what they're saying. Until that happens then yeah obviously there'll be obviously being there of course. We're still in the midst of this thing at the moment which is what I think a lot of people are kind of going, there's no way this can happen but I think there's two. There's kind of like two things going on here. One thing is we said this last week like the moral side of it and you know not enough PPA and people are still dying of alarm and rate and the rate of infection. Okay the rate of infection is no.9 now isn't it below 1. So every person you come into contact you'll infect less than one person. That's what they needed it to be. But then people are still infected everywhere so there's that side of it and then you have to like almost draw a line there and go and then there's like football which will be viewed totally different than this side. It will, it'll be tested differently, it'll have tests. Rightly or wrongly people can be outraged on social media all at once. We can sit there and go it's a disgrace that footballers will be tested but nurses may not be. It's bizarre that thing you think of it in your mind. But they will be. I just think it's a big distraction. Tachdych personally. What way are you sitting at the moment? Do I think it should come back? No. Do I think it will come back? Yes. I do think it's a lot easier to put stuff out there. I mean the Grand Prix one to me just sounds utter nonsense. But it moves country to country. How can they honestly say that in this country it's going to do one thing unless it's going to go lad so just put it on like a couple of tracks. So for that I just find that to be utter nonsense. I think the Premier League will have something in place and I think that they want to try and gather momentum but I find with all this I find it all to be just so poor on detail in terms of like an exit strategy and over the weekend we've had exit strategies from other countries and they might be a bit further down the line. I just feel like it's a bit like once you start pushing the notion out there with it being almost like Chinese whispers and I think that's what they're trying to create is that that just makes people feel like life's getting back to normal and like you just said I don't think life is getting back to normal because it's great having all these numbers saying oh the infections are low, the infections will be low because people aren't meeting each other but that doesn't mean that the minute you not create normality but people feel like there's some normality that infections will just go back up again. I just think they've got to be very very careful about almost like making it feel like things are going back to normal. But I think the government have criticised the government and rightly show for some of the stuff that's gone on but I mean seeing something today Boris Johnson said he can't come out of lockdown regardless of the pressure that people are saying right we need to get back to normal now because of the economy, the economy. It's about people's lives. What you would hope is that while lockdown is there big chunks of this fire is a dying off that's what you're hoping for because people aren't meeting each other and once people are infected have gone through that incubation period and there will still be carriers who might still have it and we don't know enough about the virus still to know whether or not it does die off after three or four weeks and then it's gone. Obviously what we're really trying to do is just buy time for these vaccinations or for treatments even maybe not even vaccinations but seeing something at the weekend on Friday it might have been a red something a Warrington hospital have changed some of their ventilators and have used stuff that you usually use for sleep apnea and it's got rid of it in two days. No but that's not, I don't think that's got rid of it I think that's just a ventilator day that's how they deal with the shortest ventilators and that's all great I've got no problem with that there's a lot of different talk going on about but I think that's the problem is that I think what it does is for me it feels almost these conversations and it's a way of trying to regain control but what I see at the same time is like that's great but wouldn't those conversations be better if they were actually in an actual plan at some point and I think it's been don't get me wrong you don't want to run before you can walk so you've got to have things in place I just feel like what I mean by that is that you're trying to keep things quiet but you know that they're leaking stuff at the same time Well we've got a project restart it's called I've got the laptop here because the story's on it Premier League ramps up plans for resuming season Plans to resume the Premier League season will step up this week in what has been labelled project restart Arsenal, Brighton and West Ham all opened their training grounds to players for individual work on Monday the league is hopeful of a potential junior eighth restart finishing at the end of July and that fits in with European competition UEFA's European competition plans this means that full training begins on the 18th of May for Premier League teams there's a meeting on Friday of top flight clubs which has happened before Premier League's been suspending since 13 March there's 92 fixes still left to play all games will be held behind closed doors there's talks ongoing about making them available free to air one issue under debate on Friday will be what approved stadiums will be used and whether there'll be a limited number of grounds or neutral venues so what's still getting floated around is people aren't going to play their home games which is mad first of all however a return to your action still depends on the government's fire test being met especially in increasing testing also hinges on the conclusion reached by regular cross sport meetings of senior medical officials discussing the health protocols for competing behind closed doors the move was described by a source closer to the plans as a quickening of pace and intended to help resume sport within weeks Dominic Rapp said on Sunday amateur sport won't return this summer due to the level and scale of interaction but professional sport may be able to return because of the scale of testing that will be introduced so when that kind of language starts getting used from me it's that they are they've got the plan they know what they're working towards it's going to be the only thing my criticism of it and it is a criticism because like you said before the morality side of it it shouldn't even be it's a game of football, it's a sport so it's irrelevant almost but the other thing is is it just what is the motivation I know what the motivation is is just creating this game on neutral territory to have all these games now it's going to be like a football bonanza there's 92 games there that need to be played are we talking a 3 o'clock kickoff and a 7 o'clock kickoff in the same venue with a turn around because we know that that venue is being deep cleaned and those players can go in and whatever or is there a couple in between two games between a game sorry so it's going to be 10 venues then and how does if it is some particular venues and I've heard and you'd think you'd think it would be new venues so go to some I wouldn't imagine would ever be considered it's too old it's got it's not a bright and shiny thing so then where's Everton's advantage so if Everton are playing I'm trying to think of a team well we've got Ben OK let's say we play no but I'm thinking of like let's say we play I'm trying to think of one of out of way games one of out of way games yes spare spares is going because they've got a new stadium do spares play their game at home if they're one of the stadium things or do teams who play their home games do they play their home games somewhere else so they don't get a home advantage because no one else is getting a home advantage these are the things that I think I'm thinking about like so I've seen in Man City's grounds Etihad did they play their games at the Etihad well I've seen something saying about St George's Park on the show pit so there's no stands on there there's just a show pit isn't there so there's like a little stand but what I mean is there's a show pit so it's just going to be essentially on a field in the middle of St George's Park so it's that do you know what I mean it's like almost like I've seen people saying if we can't have the fans then we shouldn't be able to bother with it there's no way football is going to go there might be a vaccine till January and that's being like optimistic so we won't play 40 till next year that's not going to happen it's an industry that needs to be playing no but at the same time it's that though and I agree it has to come back without fans because like you've just said if it comes back in if we don't get this vaccine or we're not progressing towards a vaccine but I go back to what I've just said how is a competition that starts with one set of rules able to finish with another set of rules you wait for a token or fee for a token bringing in five subs so an additional two subs an additional two subs so that if we've got a lot of games in a short time players aren't getting fatig well how does that fit in with what I mean is is we've had a competition so far and we've gone past the halfway stage so I always think well at least if you if you have to change a rule that rule would come in halfway through or whatever now you're talking about a different set of rules you're talking about no fans you're talking about no home advantage you're talking about changing the number of subs like I've just said there I know home advantage is more important when you've got fans there but they are a home they get that feeling of being a home you know these are the things that worry me for it to be a for it to be a sort of you know a competent competition yes if it restart the people will get the two wins and they will be the champions fine but what about the teams at the bottom what about the likes and knowledge you really need that home advantage villain you need that home advantage home for the european places need that home advantage that crabby and that roar to keep them going where the club that need it these are the things to me that that I just think don't make it a fair competition well if we bin it which is an option the biggest indicator that that could happen happened in holland on last Thursday of friday they said friday I think it was it's done no champions I actually were going to well you would have said but probably I'll talk with alchmar day enough champions no relegation the league just would restart again in september they've said as this season didn't exist almost right so is that is that really what well that's not going to happen and the reason it's not going to happen is because in holland so many of the clubs said to the league you decide it and the league said they're like we'll decide it what's going to happen in this country clubs would not leave up to the premier league to make that decision no no but what if we run out of what if simply just run out of time and what I mean by that is every day that goes by and no decisions made when it can be it's all very well the other side to it is it's all very well clubs going right come back to train and come back to finch farm come in don't go in the building don't get your car, socially distance go over to there and there's take a ball and off you go and we'll do training and I can call on to you whilst you're standing on my own and I'll direct you to do different things you know I've shot some here to go keep it and still save them because you're mad but if there's no if there's no way that those matches can be played what's the point in socially distancing and training if when the minute that game starts you don't social distance what's the point I'm not being funny if you're training so does a decision get made in a couple of weeks where they go right lads the rules are slightly changed obviously you can all train together you've had your two weeks training and now do you know what I mean I think what needs to happen is is we need to know by the end of the week what's going on like if there's a plan like May is me this week so stop stop leaking stuff through the media and come out and just say right we've got a plan and this is what we're going to do for the next two weeks players will train in the training grounds but all separate they'll do their individual work and basically that's to climatise them back to a training ground and get themselves and they'll go home and then they come back that's getting themselves two weeks sorted and they'll be individually tested two weeks we get the balls out we're all in it and then three weeks later we're starting whether that be June the 8th around there that seems to be the date needed and this is the plan and I think like I said many times I think when you're in a certain moment you are thinking about that moment you don't know what's going to be here next week of course we don't I just think that this week we just need to have a plan because that's what other countries a little bit further down the line are doing now but I think that's what we need and then we can all start coming to terms with what's going on because I just think at the moment there's just too many voices coming from all different places that have got all individual ways of looking at it and motivations as well you know going out Liverpool obviously or Gary Neville saying the opposite of course so as I said I have no personal problem with it restarting and Liverpool winning league I'm not asked it doesn't that's not my motivation of not seeing Liverpool winning honestly I've known since September they were going to win it, it's not a big thing for me now so let's just find a way sorry let's just find a way to just say this is what we're doing rather than oh this is what we might do no get a plan together if you've got a plan and tell the public is it safer though to just say it's done when we're starting this September and then what that does then is it gives the world four months to be further down the line but what if we get to mid June and everyone's like we're back to normal no no listen I'm not arguing with you but what if we are we get to this June not back to normal what if different people are starting to go back to different kinds of jobs and maybe like Germany's playing and they're playing behind closed doors maybe Italy's playing and then that's where people our teams can start preparing for the next season yeah well that's fair enough I know the biggest thing is being Italy because I think I said last week on this they said immediately they weren't finishing it immediately and now we're talking about June the 2nd and you're like because even though we will be further along and we'll be like relaxing lockdown I mean no one knows how that's going to go that's what I'm saying if you said I don't think measures will be lifted on May the 7th because to me it doesn't make sense next week to just lift the measures if you then said there's another three weeks lockdown that takes you to the end of May I'm not saying it will but I'm saying if they did and it got to the end of May that's given breathing space for this pandemic to no no I'm just so everything by then you would expect it down here because people who've been with people to know what it means we should be right down here then let me just say this before we get finished right I think a big problem with all of this is how actually our media is reporting this on yesterday Saturday sorry the death went up again so like over 800 right I've seen a terrible horrible story yesterday on Twitter that I shared with you about someone who works for Southampton and this guy he's literally a gorilla in the matter of days and passed away someone in his 30s with a 5 month year old baby and I thought but over the weekend we had these stories of like life's getting back to normal and it's like it's not who said he was getting back to normal because of the 400 people that's what I'm saying it's like there's this narrative of oh we're over the west now it's fine and yet but in other countries it gets played through the media because we don't we're not pushing these people and yet in other countries people are looking at our country going how many people are dying in your country but in our country it's like oh it's we're all back to normal and we need to give a few people a tell enough because they went to the park no it's like if we that's what I'm saying it feels like it feels like people are like oh come into dying I feel like there's more cars on the road and that's what I'm saying it feels like people are just like oh we're bored of this well you get bored because the message is slacking off and people are starting to talk about getting back to normal I feel like that's one of the big issues is the media and not the media are like oh this is fine and they're doing a great job and it's like whatever the job they're doing whatever right but it's not getting back to normal people are still dying in massive numbers and people are getting told who have passed away could be they're saying 20,000 yet it's probably more close to 40,000 so I think we need to get a bit of a grip on this and start and that's where the messaging is so important for me to come out and say what you're doing but say it in a way that's not little bits in papers that have been leaked to people you're going to do it come out and say what you're doing properly and get it down and then we'll all be like well that's the point in the future we're heading towards that now I think they're just trying to trip feed people so that when they do come out and go bit tune the 8th people go I will be there that message to know what I mean but I might be wrong I'm just but I think that's what it is but I just feel like you've been treating people for weeks but is that to try to show people that we will get there there is light at the end of the tunnel I'm not saying it's right I said last week they should be centreising everything to make the people go but psychologists in to actually show them how to talk to people because they don't seem to be getting the message right at the moment so there you go let us know your thoughts when do you think it should come back how do you think the Premier League are handling it and do you think it's right it should come back at all and as we mentioned that's not just because of riding a model way but right because neutral grounds is everyone going to be playing at neutral grounds are people going to be playing their own games what's the plan if it is late August September it's not going to be neutral grounds then that's a question from another day no I'm just thinking out loud flip the things it's mad let us know your thoughts in the comments don't forget give this video a like subscribe if you haven't already and if you want more great videos the link is in the description see you later