 Boom, what's up fam? Anthony Johnson here today co-founder of the red man group CEO 21 studios 21 convention 22 convention 20 university 10,000 of things on the internet here at the hundred percent toxic masculinity today from our editing suite I had some technical issues with stream yard and browsers and bullshits and then the different office today Anyway before we get in today's show a very special episode of the red man group We're gonna roast all these fraudulent fucking losers who pretend to be alpha males But in real life are complete loser beta males We're gonna have a commercial where we talk about real alpha males at the 21 convention We're gonna have a lot of alpha males even the female there. You can see the Superstar Janis Femenko on the right At 22 you can mention for the ladies of course. We don't need a woman's planning at 21 convention Anyway, it's 15 year anniversary coming up soon 53 days out from you know today It's gonna be three conferences in one. 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So the sooner you buy the more you save. I appreciate it That's it for the commercial. Please let me welcome to the show mr. Alex from playing with fire And John Anthony from John Anthony lifestyles. Sup homies. How you doing? Yeah, I'm doing pretty good I'm excited to go into the fake and fraud fucking fiasco disaster of the century Like you guys I've been watching that shit go down, you know for what a week and a half now or something like that and It's just it's so it's so nice and amazing to watch and it's like really Very it's very entertaining, you know Like yeah, dude So what are you guys initial impressions of what happened and for any fans too that I haven't seen this and you guys can go Over some of the basics of what you've seen. I've been trying to keep up with it. There's so much delusional fucking crazy shit It's hard to even keep up. It's like happening in slow motion. Yeah, my last 10 videos were on this shit I like me to get back to the dating content But basically I've I think the most fascinating to me is that they even got into this position anyways And they're still gonna have a huge following even after all this But it really it really goes to show that Anyone out there in the internet, you know with the age of the internet can go online and say anything Yeah, and yeah, if you look at my some of my last thumbnails there And they can get away with it even when they've been outed and they can be outed all over YouTube and still get away with it So, you know and they they've just caught on camera with their defense. Oh, yeah, we've never lied We never scammed there's objective evidence of them lying everywhere and scamming everything and just creating a whole fake image Basically if anyone doesn't know the backstory It's two guys that suck with chicks that went on and claimed to be ultimate experts with chicks and then Just regurgitated red pill nonsense. They're just parroting stuff from rollo and kevin samuels and Just you know just repeating that same stuff over and over which is pretty toxic and they're making like a big cult of men Hate women be confrontational with women despise women, etc. I speak to all these guys in the phone Yeah, I can't just a lot of this comment content. I still don't get girls But now I actually hate, you know, they don't like chicks anymore that not not the sense of like they're gay But it's like a war They're making like they're against they're against female and there's no reason to be like that guys that actually get hot chicks Know that there's no reason to have this war and that you know And now that it's just it's coming to the forefront. I called them out immediately way back when they first came on the scene Oh, yeah, I don't know me a hater for six months and said I'm just jealous Crap I remember John we were talking for the show when that when you and I first talked on one-on-one months ago Like February and March or whatever it was this year I think you asked me about fresh and fit and I had pretty much the same opinion as you It's like they're I think Myron's kind of retarded like autistic or spurgy or something and they're both frauds like that that's pretty obvious that they're frauds and You know we agree, but yeah a lot of people bitched even to me And I didn't even do whole videos on them just comments like that in fact even in real life I went to a turning point You know college event back in a few weeks ago in Tampa and it was this huge thousands of college students there for this Conservative thing right and a lot of guys knew the channel They knew me there's some YouTube and a couple of them actually asked about fresh and fit Which number one told me that they were pretty popular but number two They're like what do you think about them and I'm like the frauds hundred percent loser frauds and these kids They were in the young 20s were shocked I would say that and I'm like man Just you know going there my you know channel you see some videos on it stuff I should direct them to you But you know it was alarming that they were so shocked by that and I can only imagine those kids I talked to you there were like 21 22 years old It must be shit and bricks now because they remember talking to me and never mind if they looked up your channel Seeing what fucking losers these guys were but no one wanted to hear it, you know For months and months and months Alex. What do you think about this too, man? You yeah I think a good place to start is to give a rough timeline of events for anyone who's not hasn't been following the drama It's like a full-time job to really keep up with all the all the shit. Yeah, I'm entertaining So let's first start off with Why did fresh and fit take off? So both of them up until Seven months ago were completely unknown so Walter fresh is working in tech Myra wicks.com. Yeah, myron was working in law enforcement and doing personal training sessions and whatnot They started a podcast was relatively unknown until They started having girls on actually had a pretty good idea of having a bunch of chicks on the problem is is I also Started teaching some bad ideas like for example that part of being a man is like, you know Just getting overreactive and kicking chicks out of nothing They also started creating a lot of fake drama because they realized that you know That's what gets used right like people want to watch chicks get kicked out There's also panders to a lot of guys who are like not successful women and bitter whatever and just kind of perpetuates that so That's kind of how it started. They exploded. They definitely became popular won't hold them against them So their downfall and yet John has been calling them out ever since the downfall began with the whole Abin preach thing So Abin preach are popular youtubers and they made one video criticizing some of the stuff that fresh and fit was saying specifically it was Fresh was saying that oh, I don't pay for sex because I want burning desire from women And Abin preach were like well, dude like your own seeking arrangement and like, you know You're basically using your podcast to get late. How's that burning desire? So they basically called out a little bit of criticism now fresh and fit really fucked up by their response So they said oh, well, we're so much better than you we get way more views you guys are losers They're attacking personally they attack preachers wife and then they said we're gonna challenge you to a boxing match Right. Yeah, then your second fuck up came when well, I've been preach when that preach said, okay I accept then they fucked up by saying actually, you know, we're just gonna lay off the YouTube drama So they indirectly turned down the boxing match that they suggested and it was just complete lost on them because like I think that's one thing That their audience is smart enough to actually realize like okay You attack the man's wife you challenged him to a fight and then you backed off like they may not realize all the contradictions and all the scamming that's going on but they realized that and that's why they lost I think something like 40,000 subs in 48 hours, which literally might be a world record I've never seen anything like that Beauty that's actually might be like an actual record like I'd be curious to see that and so then People started coming at them and then there's a whole bunch of other things that happen a bunch of girls starts now like Anna Quinn Like hey, yeah, my room was like, you know doing this and that You know and then some chick claiming that she's carrying my runs, baby I'm not gonna say whether that's true or not because I don't know I don't know any of these girls But yeah, they had an enormous amount of people coming against them way more than someone should which really begs When there's smoke, there's usually a fire That's right fire isn't what you what the people are claiming like I'm a firm believer that the truth is somewhere in the middle But even though the truth is somewhere in the middle is so pretty fucking bad So then the whole thing culminated with one of their former disgruntled employees Breaking in and they're basically being almost a shootout. Yeah, I think in my opinion came I'm gonna I'm gonna pull that up real quick Anthony John Anthony did a you did a video response on that, right? Where is that? Yeah Breaking here's the breaking. Yeah, this is pretty wild. I mean Myron pulled a gun on this guy and he threatened he's so Legally, it's kind of complicated and none of us are attorneys or like law enforcement But this was dubious, but then Myron pulled a gun and invited this dude in and I think threatened to kill him Which definitely negates any self-defense claims. Yeah, he said come in it. Yeah, he said come in It'll be the last the last time you live as well. Yeah, that's dude That's fucked man like I wouldn't be surprised if law enforcement gets in on this and like they're building kicks them out I mean, this is unbelievably fucking dumb Like just low IQ dumber than a box of rocks doesn't understand anything about the law like Common sense tells you if you want to have any kind of self-defense claim up to invite someone in your house and threaten to kill them Like that that just fucking so stupid man. Unbelievable The thing is I don't even think Myron is low IQ. I think fresh is probably fairly dumb like I don't want to be a dick, but it is. Yeah I think mom's actually a blunt average IQ because he went to northeastern. That's a pretty good university You can't get in there like I went to be you know, we're pretty similar I think that he is so in his feelings though and he gets so emotionally worked up That his emotions override his common sense. So initially if you watch that video, he was like, don't do it Don't come in it'll be bad. But then he worked up. He's like just come in come in, right And again, like I'm not even necessarily criticizing Myron's initial response because if there's two big guys outside my door I wouldn't come out either. I would be like, you know, like I'll probably would get my gun and say don't come in Right, but it's at what he did after but then he also they also lied and said they kicked down the door Which you know was proven later to be completely false. You know, we have video Yeah, yeah, they kind of took a took a somewhat bad story and try to spin it to suit their image Which is something I've seen them do time and time again. They take facts Yeah, we're just Trying to say I've been pretty sure responsible Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, I wanted to pull this up too though. So I do think Myron is more intelligent than fresh like fresh is legit Very dumb Myron has done some dumb shit. I don't know, you know, how low is IQ is but I do really think that he's kind of spurgy or artistic Like when I met him, he had this vibe to him that was really awkward and really weird And I see that today on the podcast that when he melts down and he freaks out in these girls Some of that is intentional to stir up like drama because everyone says they hate drama But all these betas they love drama, right all these girls they can't fuck They'll never fuck them all these skanks. Miami, right? No offense, Alex, but it's plenty plenty Yeah, they find the skankiest fucking retarded hose That all these betas can't fuck these simps and then they collect all these simps Then he has these these meltdowns that I think are signs of autism Like like you're saying is so open his feelings It's not even just a feminine and oh steve's on here too. Oh man. I see steve. Sorry, bro. Yeah, steve. What's up, man? Yo, what's good? How y'all guys doing man doing good man? Just making fun of how fucking retarded Yeah, how y'all doing steve? I was I was going through the fucking fresh and Fit clips extensively and I saw they challenge you to a boxing match too I'd love to tell you that story because I I told him one jump. I was if I can't cuss can I just I was gonna eff him up I'll go ahead. I don't give a fuck. Okay. Well first of all real real quick. They call they called you that they're making fun of your weight They said you're fat Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I uh See, I met myron at the 21 and I sat right beside his cake ass when he like A1 was saying anthony was saying he was timid He was soft spoken He didn't do he was right beside me matter of fact. He was at the dinner table with us And what happened from my point of view what I saw was He kind of cheated the game because he came in as a fitness instructor He wasn't a a quote unquote dating code. He didn't know anything about women He only knew about working out and stuff like that So he got with another guy D. I know I only wanted to mention his name, you know the the the sharp guy We'll just say sharp guy the sharp mama sharp. Yeah He got with mamba and mamba Hooked him with the tamasis and all those other guys Where then he Started mimicking their stuff to grab all their people in and then the the workout guy became the quote unquote dating coach All of a sudden where he learned from the sharp guy how to create a studio And he knows the guys like girls. He'll put a few girls around and stuff like that. So we were on a show And they start, you know, I because I every time Myron says something or that's not his real name You you you you you you got his name. We're food are more follow I just call Whatever his name is So when oh do go go go go go do boo was uh talking on a sharp show Uh, I kept nailing him because everything he's saying was Regurgitate. He was like a rollo tamasi. Yeah, man. That's that's full of bull. That's bullshit That's bullshit because I was I was calling him out. So on the back end I said I said look I told him the guy I said look You were you were effing fraud and I'm gonna call your ass out every time I'm wanting to show with you I'm gonna call you out for the fuck shit you're doing and then he ran in the sharp guy in the email I can show you to say that it will you gotta kick kick Steve off because he's gonna mess up my brand And that's what the sharp guy was about the branding. So but that's when he made the video Talking about he wants to box. He never challenged. I told him I was gonna get him on I'm not here to To threat myself a big brother. I was just saying I want to talk to him I didn't say I want to hurt him, but I said I wanted to talk to him Yeah, without without But he then said that he challenged me to a boxing match Come on, man But yeah, I'm fat. I'm old and I'm bald, right But I'm bald by choice number one And if you look at some of his videos if you look at the back of his cranium right there He's going bald himself. So It's all good fellas Yeah Would you would you uh, if it could be set up? Would you you'd still box it? Oh, yes. Oh I would do it. I'm a 50 year old, but I still got a little bit left in the tank. Yes, I would do it I'm not even I'm in Orlando. I'll box both of them at the same time. Yes Both of these I swear to god, I'll do it if they're watching I'll gladly do it. I'm in Orlando. You can come here. You're in Miami I can come there. It's whatever both of these losers are like in middle school and high school I used to see guys like this, right? And I got in fights with some of them Because they would talk all this fucking shit taught like I'll bark no bite And when they get into fight, they literally go down in one hit Every time someone talks all this mad shit They get hit once they get hit in the nose or in the eye and they fucking cry and they run away I've seen this. I've done this and when I was growing up in school, right? Now. I'm not talking about some street fight I don't want to get like legally in trouble, but we can find a boxing ring or whatever the fucking do illegally and film it Let's be alive on youtube You saw what happened with preach preach accepted and they went radio silent. Of course they apologize Oh, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry They showed the dms. They said hey, we're we're all the stuff. They're leaving them on red So they again, they talk a big game, but then they don't they don't back it up I don't do that. Like I don't normally fucking threaten people to a boxing match But when these losers do all this bullshit They threaten all these people to fight fight fight fight fight and then abin preach nevermind steve now They like i'll fight you and they run away like little fucking girls, man That one guy the fighting shit, but uh, definitely a big fan of debates, but they yeah, they'll never debate anyone They want to debate like chicks and shit. They don't know Oh It's amazing to me too because they bring these like, you know Middle of the road iq at best, you know these skanks out of miami And I've seen him try to dunk on these girls like where your stats at where your stats It's like Dude, this girl's 23 years old and just you found her on tender or something like she's a fucking clue Of course, she doesn't have stats to pull out of her ass Like all the only stats they do they get from rollo There's something that's very important to point out which I think goes on set So when a girl comes in the studio, they take their phones away So the girls are the huge disadvantage because their points out the girls can't fact check them That's no way to have a debate right and you can pull out facts. I can't fact check you I can't pull up with my own statistics, right and the the reason that's because they're frauds I mean, we got to just keep make it very clear these dudes are little con artists like Yeah, they're trying to they're trying to stack the odds in their favor Steve made an interesting point that I forgot. Myron was a fucking Fitness guru and quotes again. He was no guru there either But he was a fitness guy that got the idea to start teaching dating from fucking rollo and donovan Yeah, it's a whole gaggle of these like birds like this gaggle of losers and this gaggle of frauds I view it as like a whole like little miniature mafia of like these posers And I see like we talked about previously rollo is at the top of all this If you look at this whole network of frauds, they all suck rollo's dick It's like it's a pyramid scheme really Rollers at the top like this poke of red till fraud, right? And then he has these little underdogs that do his bidding and sell his book And they all worship him like gods because they're all fabulous little weirdos that have no dad around I mean, when's the last time you saw any of them talk about their now? I'm not saying now If you don't have a father growing up, whatever, I mean being raised by single moms a bad thing, but Like they they screamed to me like fabulous broken mama's boys like donovan Like who's the biggest I see you know, I've been thinking about lately with three stooches and I see donovan I see donovan miren and fresh ceo as like three stooches of three fucked up little boys We think that they're men and none of them are men They're all just like just fucked up little weirdos Did you did you see the the new video of scu of walter? Did you see walter's video? Of what did he do now? Wait, wait, wait, y'all haven't seen the video Which one of walter going on an interview I was trying to figure out if that was a defaker that was real I don't it looks like See the thing about the game You can tell who has game Because game goes beyond just women, you know, you can tell You know, just his language his body language to that guy He you remember he was holding a little poodle everything is is is me is like they he's a cute little dog and yeah Yes Walter yeah, I was trying to figure out that was a defaker or not. It's fun. Oh, I look I look real and his dress was caught on walter That was great. It was grand cardone. They did some interview or something. Oh, you guys see day one. I'll set it How is it on youtube? Kevin wilders channel. Yeah, it's gonna be the first Yeah, you got a Ray wilder and pulling it up right now He's he's been also like john he's been calling out fresh and fit like relentlessly for ages. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see There it is Yeah, dude. Yeah, you got to play this Have the audio play through the stream you guys hear the audio No, no audio One second. I got a when you when you share the screen. There's a little checkbox to share. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I'll make you guys think this is real. I'm like 50-50 I think it looks totally real to me. It looks real to me. He looks like he's scared. That's what he does Defakes are good though nowadays This this water here I wouldn't tell it over me However, since you asked me I will This water here is very good for you as a lot of nutrients in it as well. However at the same time This water can be Or not be important to you. You know anything about bees? Not particularly sir Just bought this property in Nashville and bees are swarming the property creating honey Things running down the post to the office and they wrote me and said, hey, we have a serious problem with honeybees And then they didn't tell me what the solution is What can you do for me now? I can do a number two. You sound like a robot, dude No Everybody in here has been a good guy so far except for the first two people I cut this morning They were probably criminals now might be a good time to try to save yourself Listen here. Thanks more sounds. Here it comes. Okay currently, sir. I am developing my skills in sales However, we did a personality profile on you. Walter needs help with problem solving What do I do about those bees? First, we need to research how to get rid of bees And second and secondly, he says that he exudes ego strength and self confidence Do you see it? How much money did you make last month? $120, $30 a week is what you made last month Yes, sir, how much money did you make? I'm doing a 10x rule. I really would like to make a hundred thousand. Yeah, Michael. Why a hundred thousand, dude? Done. You don't have whatever it takes Nice to see you. Okay. Thank you. Good luck to you, all right. Thank you We get worn out looking at resumes, so we end up hiring Walter and then nobody shows up Hey, what? This is hysterical. This is right. Yeah, this just came out. Dude, when was this filmed? Is this pretty recent? No, it's gotta be old. Your show was old, but this came out yesterday. Again, I still think it's probably defig, but it's hilarious And and this is the guy who says he's had sex with 1500 women in one year flat He fucked up with three women a day every day for a year straight Dude, this is this is like massive con artists. I have videos actually I was gonna do a whole takedown video on my own before this fiasco Just to kind of help us show along with john anton. He was doing There's videos where walter says he fucked like 500 women and then he fucked like 1500 women That are like a month apart and it's like bro. You fucked a thousand women in a month This is people laws are super ridiculous. They're saying he's 20 as well in the in the fake press releases. They're saying he's 20 now Yeah, how old is he? What is the real age? I don't know, but he's definitely not 20. Yeah, he looks a little bit older than that. I don't know What a shit show man, what a fucking shit show and the the new paid press releases that have been coming out the past month They all say that he's a rising music star Yeah Well, that's what takes me off because like I have earned media from my company Like where we actually had the media come after us for real and we didn't pay anyone to do it And that does give you some level of authority or credibility is like you got to earn that shit You know you got to do something worthwhile for the media to attack you or support you or whatever And they've done none of that. It's all fake like I remember early on that when john was doing his videos You know months ago They were saying he was in fox news and I was bullshit He wasn't he could probably get sued for that by these companies for falsely reporting They didn't they it's not legitimate right when we do it at 21 convention. It's fraud. I think technically it's fraud. Yeah He's presenting himself to be this like esteemed authority and he at the end of the day It's it's it's like it's like when Napoleon Hill was doing and shit like that The dude that wrote thinking grow rich He was just like giving out awards to famous people so he could appear next to them in newspapers And all he was saying that he was like that he came up with the quote There's nothing to fear but fear itself. It's like just completely fabricating all kinds of outrageous shit The thing is that a bunch of people believe it. Yeah You know the old saying is there's a sucker born every minute But I think in the atmosphere we need to say that there's a simp born every minute And all their fans that are left. I think I think the most intelligent ones at this point The least dumb they all of abandon ship And I think Alex was saying too. He's right that they uh, let's pull this up They've lost 50 000 subscribers in the past like 10 days. That's what you see here on social bled Which is I've never seen that implosion in my life on youtube. I mean, usually when people come after you There's probably like what 500 600 responsive videos at this point maybe more usually that grows your channel, right? Even if it's negative This shit they've they fucked up so hard The the media is so negative It is so obvious that they're fucking losers that they're bleeding subscribers Like look 10,000 in a day 15,000 in a day 6,000 4,000 3,000 3,000 1,000 I don't believe this thousand plus bullshit. That's got to be an error 2,000 negative 1,000 1,000. Let's see how low they go today Like I I'm amazed they're even still on youtube you guys have thoughts on that Like how are these fucking losers still on youtube? Why are they not in jail or something? Well, that's the thing is that's the thing is it's not like youtube comes in and says okay They were faking a bunch of shit shut the channel down They can still exist and tons of their followers aren't even aware of how deep this goes plus they did a five hour Q&A giving a bunch of bullshit responses. So now all their fans think that it's just like a conspiracy against them Yeah, rollo. I think is the one spearheading that by the way, he's coaching them Someone was putting that for real he he's on the stream someone reported in the chat today here on the stream I saw there. Yeah that he's on some other podcast talking about coaching them what to do like when I went after him Which I'm not even done yet by the way that's probably that motherfucker going down son more even more and more and more But rollo basically He doxxed over 50 guys in real life to a feminist reporter He got outed with proof of this an objective fucking proof and evidence And then he just fucking ignored it and this is like the biggest reason I've ever seen in the man's sphere Even worse than fresh and fraud or fake and fraud But then rollo just kept playing along and nothing happened. It's like dude. You're a massive fraud These guys I think are going to burn though Like they they have pissed off like such a huge amount of youtubers at this point That I think they're like piranhas that are just going to eat them alive now YouTube piranhas and a community. Hey, he's a huge in Miami. Yeah, that's right. Talk to me about that, Steve I don't understand black culture in perica. Oh Well, the thing is is that you know when you talk about Haitians, I mean you don't you don't mess with Haitians Jamaicans, you don't mess with those money You just you don't talk bad about that community because that community will come there That's a come together community and it's really large especially in that area So it's not even the two guys that they uh, I forgot that I'm preaching Thank you. I yeah, I don't know that but I what I do know is that That's why he was quick to apologize because someone got to him and said listen when you're talking about One Haitian or you're saying something about a Haitian you're talking about a community of people And they don't play by the rules of we're going to go to the police and and write anything if we see you We're going to jump you and do some damage to you Yeah, what an amazing shit show man I uh, we'll see if that is that why he's got a walter bought a gun. Maybe that's why he bought a gun Myra already had one I do think that one, uh, just to be objective that one has been sort of dispelled because there's proof of them Like again, like I'm not a professional fan at all. But like and they in their stream they Uh, they fucked up with defending a lot of things But that's the one thing they were able to accurately defend because there's a video of them like actually applying for the license weeks ago So that one is like kind of a misnomer, but yeah, the other ones are pretty much true But walter that was his first gun like myron Amur feudal or whatever the fucking Yeah, I know the walter applied for the license before the whole incident. That's what I'm saying But you don't need a license to buy a gun to carry a gun. You need a license I think it was a concealed carry license or something. Yeah. Yeah, that does take time. That's true. That takes like a couple weeks I've had I have one too Yeah, it's just weird timing on that he would show it off that seemed intentional to show it off and That was super fucking dumb. Yeah, that was that was just pure stupidity. But dude, what's crazy is like not that shortly after Uh, fucking Amru was having like brandished the gun when that dude was coming in to beat his ass. Yeah And that could that could have turned out way worse Imagine the dude walked in and he shot him or some shit Best case scenario their podcast is canceled forever. That's the best case scenario worst case scenario He's in jail for half of his lifetime But in terms of legality that is very dubious again, obviously not most of lawyers but when you're taunting the person And encouraging verbally saying come on in and it's called on camera. Like you can't go back and say I didn't say that Yeah, that becomes very dubious. Uh, I think it could go really just would depend on the judge the lawyers and all that stuff Like you could easily spend half his lifetime in jail for that for advanced water charges Steve Yeah, no, I was just saying that there was was weird is is that There they had the guy outside the door had someone filming him And then uh, walter was feeling du du ba da and and they were uh It I don't know because if it was a break in the the the door wasn't even broken It was like as if I don't know if it was I don't know if it was Was but yeah, they show There's proof that the door was not locked. Yeah, but why would why would you incriminate? See, why would you not only incriminate yourself? But film you making threats if it was real because then if he left all I do is call the police. Here's the footage and Uh, he's arrested somebody's getting arrested, but it's odd. Nobody's getting arrested right now. No, nothing's happening That's it's I've seen the video john did a breakdown because they the dude who came there They did a video too and he that door was unlocked He just grabbed it and opened it and he walked in a couple feet and then he backed out And yeah, so what myron did I think what myron did is probably brandishing a weapon I'm not an attorney or law enforcement. That's my opinion And threatening to kill somebody if you're inviting him in that's that's very that's all in video too I mean he incriminated himself in a serious crime involving a weapon And he's a former agent for homeland security or some shit like I gotta say too his handling of a firearm is absolutely fucking retarded never mind the whole situation Like this guy has no idea what he's doing with the firearm Whatever he did for homeland security had nothing to do in the field or like with weapons nothing He's probably some paper pusher for bullshit in an office somewhere in miami Um So let's talk about let's cover a few more issues here So let's talk about the simp response the beta male police that have been coming out Now for fresh and fraud or fake and fraud they have been dying down Because the public is so against these fucking losers, but you still see simps even now You probably have them on your channel john and maybe alex too, right? They still fucking come out and they still bitch at you So have you seen that john on your channel? Like what do you think about that these I think it's I think it's hilarious guys will say like oh you count the number of girls you stopped with You're a simp you live with three percent any girls. You're a simp It's like what the fuck are you talking about you get your dick suck? Yeah, no, it's I think a lot of guys You know, it's like a power trip thing if they if they're jealous somebody or something like that You know, they want to like make up for it's cognitive dissonance. It's finest These guys aren't getting shit. They're drinking off every night and they see a guy getting a ton of chicks How can we call that guy a simp? Oh, he's a simp because of this because he's living with girls But I mean I mean the simps for for fake and fraud Like even if there's overwhelming overwhelming evidence that they're pussies and losers and frauds and con artists That's the thing a lot of a lot of guys don't even care Like they just get they just get the enjoyment of watching the fucking drama and bullshit on the show So they respect the guys on that on that dimension a lot of Like like we're looking at stuff like how can we get guys the best information? Most guys don't even a lot of them don't even care about getting good information I've found a lot of my best videos about about the game have have low views You know people people want fucking bullshit and drama and they've given them that environment. They've they found The formula, you know, I said about much my response for you. This is like the Jerry Springer formula Yep Inside a bunch of fucking bullshit between trashy people and everyone wants to see what happens next You know Like for example, if you're a Scientologist, right and you have someone say hey, dude, isn't it kind of weird that you give 10% of your income to a church We're talking about you're weird for not doing that It's kind of the same thing and they just basically repeat age So anytime I personally have a critique fresh and fit It's like you're cloud chasing because that's the only defense fresh if it has whatever anyone attacks them They always say they're cloud chasing right because they don't have to address the argument They can just dismiss the person now, right? This genuine, I don't know counter Their only response to all my points is that their channel is bigger That's they're literally only defense. They said our channel is bigger and the story. That's all we're gonna say about it And how is that how's that a defense against a whole bunch of it's not it's a it's an argument from authority It's a logical fallacy is what it is. Yeah, it's just It's it's what little children do because they're not men. They have like no accomplishments in life Beyond the channel blowing up over the past few months. That's like a very temporary new thing, right? And the mob is fickle. I mean look at how fast their fans abandoned them When I went after rollo, we lost like 5 000 subscribers or something Which you know, I expect they'll be losing fans because they're like they're zombies. There's rollo dick suckers So who fucking cares they're losers anyway. I want I want them to get away from me But to lose 50 000 fucking fans in a couple days Those I mean that's that's just amazingly how bad you fucked up. They see through your bullshit now is what happened It's not just a disagreement Well, alex alex was about to hit my hit my point exactly. It's a cult mentality same with uh, tomasso Whatever his fake name is It's it's the same anywhere Uh, you have a lot of these young boys who have the umbilical cord attached to mommy And then when they take that umbilical cord out of mommy They look for a male that represents mommy and they attach it to them and then they follow So they're like it's like defending defending them is like defending their mother because Like you said, they have they they it's like they they fall in love not like a cuddle party love, you know, they It's like a coat, you know, like you were saying at the top of the pyramid This is our master you he can never be wrong He will always be right and you know, and he's just going to give him the kool-aid to drink and They're going to defend the top of the hive and that's why they will lash out at these two men right here because They don't want to see the truth because seeing the truth is really going to show them for the dumb asses For following them. So they don't want to they don't want to look at that mirror They rather just hate these guys and uh worship the other one, man I'm gonna say quick the same thing happened with with like rsd in the in the dating world Yep, I've been I've been showing all kinds of evidence about rsd fucking ripping people off wasting people's time But people are are huge rsd tyler fans and so they just they just stick to him no matter what so it doesn't matter What logical argument you could literally even even show them like the entire path of like the scam And with evidence and people are gonna say oh, we don't care. He's cool There's so bought into that image to admit that these things are true and that they were wrong Is to admit that they wasted a whole bunch of time and effort and money and they were You know and they were tricked and all this stuff and they'd rather they'd rather just make that person the enemy That's coming in to challenge that belief system. Yes Just one more thing that I found interesting So me and Kevin Ray Wilder we did a live stream and we actually invited on fresh and fit fanboys to debate us And for example, we had one guy who was coming in really hot in the comments He was like you guys are just fucking cloud chasers. You guys are losers You guys are just jealous. We're like you come on the stream And we kept like saying dude come on the stream debate us He finally came on and we're like, okay, so explain to me why we're cloud chasers She's like, well, you know, you guys you make a lot of content criticizing them. I'm like, okay Do you disagree with our critiques? Well, no, not necessarily. I think you guys have made some good points Okay, so shouldn't we be able to criticize bad ideas? Yeah. Yeah, yeah Okay, so what's wrong with what we're doing? Well, I guess nothing and then he did a complete 180 I mean it was interesting cases like dude, you know what you guys are right You know, he wasn't being a huge fresh and fit fanboy to say you guys can see who's put on the spot It's easy to be a fucking troll in the in the comments afterwards. He was like, yeah He literally said yeah, I was being a huge fanboy I was wrong and again, that's an extreme case. Most people won't have a 180 on that But we had a guy after that who was really defending fresh and fit And it took me like we took 20 minutes to break him down because I was like, okay Let me ask you a question Wouldn't it be hypocritical if for example, I kept talking about how this best Instagram course ever and that I can just use game to get shakes off Instagram And then you saw without doubt proof of me offering to fly girls out and leveraging a podcast to get late Would that make you think I'm a hypocrite? He's like, you know what that would make me think you're a hypocrite I'm like, okay. Good because that's exactly what fresh or fit got caught doing and there was like 10 minutes 10 seconds silence or he's like Shit A while to think of a counter argument, but then he was like, yeah, you know, okay, fine You guys may be right. So yeah, I think there's a lot of cognitive dissonance that's going on there But like, you know, they have 400,000 fanboys, you know, I can't like to beat all of them one by one Well, they they did now it's it's tank. Yeah, now it's less It's gonna level off at some point But I was thinking too about the sharp mama donovan sharp, you know captain chart And a lot of when I put out the truth about him that documentary It got a lot of views really quick And he took I think a big hit from that on many levels emotionally physically financially the fans abandoned him And I think fresh and fitter going through that now as well except it's like a 10 times the scale, right? The donovan thing didn't really break out of the mana sphere except it got the black mana sphere And that was about it But these dudes, you know, fake and fraud have hit, you know, huge youtube channels of enemies now 500,000 subscribers obviously to my channel to 335 all your guys's channels, you know, 700,000 subscriber channels I've been preach have 1.4 million 1.4 million exactly and there's there's a bunch of these channels covering it It's like they have really screwed the pooch on this And some people are trying to come to their defense. I think that's what rollo is doing for them He's doing it in a very snake like clever way Because if you just came out swinging for them or in like or donovan who stayed out of it completely because he knows He's a fraud too, but rollo is being rollo is playing very careful with it, right? He knows how to manipulate his own audience. He's very manipulative like like a like a nasty fat woman But see it rollo is smart and he's telling he's starting to coach him advice I guarantee you behind the scenes he's talking to them every day He's trying to save them because he wants to ride their coattails He really wanted them to blow up and then use them as a platform to expand the rollo pill his cult of Hypergamy and rollo bullshit and all this fucking his god complex is feed it more and more and that now is like falling to shit I think I was talking with socrates the other day one of our speakers And he made the point that Basically rollo is like cancer the ultimate cancer of the manusphere And he has and he has like the opposite of a mitis touch You know the old story of mitis like the king or whatever right touches things that turns the gold Everything rollo touches turns to shit. It turns it blows up in his face Donovan is a good example Right the more rollo got tight with donovan and vice versa The more toxic and retarded donovan got and he made enemies and he kicked people off the show He came after me out of fucking nowhere And then i'm like fuck this motherfucker look at fresh and fit right fake and fraud The more rollo got involved with them when you kind of coached them and all his bullshit The more toxic and retarded they got even now they still suck rollo's dick rollo's the godfather blah blah blah Rollo's a fucking feminist traitor who hates the manusphere and hates men I proved that years ago on my channel with my truth about rollo tamasi so I don't know i'm going with this but it's just It's amazing to watch and as fucked up as it is I think it's a really big red pill for the manusphere like the manusphere talks about the red pill And a lot of cases that really means the rollo pill But I think that really the manusphere is very blue pill And that's what all the fans of fake and fraud are blue pill Like they're they're too dumb to see through the facade of this this fake alphanus What do you call a pseudo alphanus john you call a pseudo alphanus behavior? They're all just fucking beta males and it's the it's the sheep leading the other sheep without the blind leading the blind Now that blew up in their face at an extraordinary level Yeah, I think that the uh, the manusphere has to accept this unfortunate truth Which is why shouting up. It's unfortunate rollo. It's the end of the day a beta keyboard jockey. Thank you There's no experience at all I just don't understand like imagine you've never trained anyone you have Loose having cash for 30 years and you're like trying to teach guys how to be a personal trainer, right? Will you ever listen to that guy? No, you'd be like you don't know nothing about bodybuilding, right? But for some reason Again, you could say he's a theory guy But how can you have the theories without the practical experience? Oh my god, you are based on going out and having women and relationships They're not based on just sitting around like, you know and just jotting things. Oh, this makes sense. So Yeah, just to me. It's crazy how people think he's the godfather of the manusphere like Guys need a stricter stricter standard of uh evidence and stuff when these people make claims because our niche is especially difficult Where literally anyone with a fucking camera can just And say they're a rock star with chicks. I mean we just cover that with fresh Oh 500 chicks on a way to thousand away 1500 You know it just it just changes with whatever sounds cooler and they make these outrageous claims. Oh, he's 20 now You know all this stupid shit But without without receipts without infield footage without good testimonials without other advanced guys vouching You know, what what do any of these claims mean? They mean jack shit, you know, you know, it'll be really cool Actually, this we should actually put this into practice We should we should like orchestrate A total a total scam just to show everyone like document the whole thing Like grab a grab a random dude make some press releases Have him make a channel and and you know, he go on and when once he hasn't fallen We just unraveled the whole thing and say hey look this guy doesn't know shit And we just did this to show you This is what you're doing with all these other coaches And just because they get a whole bunch of subs doesn't make them any but any any more legitimate. Yeah One thing that I want to just Like but uh, rollo is afraid to debate anyone who disagrees with him Like I publicly challenged him to debate multiple times. He won't do it He won't debate anyone who disagrees with him. He only wants to do like the circle church type of Well, let me actually add some some meat to that One second here rollo has debated two people That I had two speakers and he got his ass whipped at both times And yeah, I'm gonna show you and that's why he doesn't debate anybody So here's his debate with One second. I'm uh pulling this up How do we get this boom So this is a debate where uh, dr. Sean Smith the clinical psychologist for 20 years I know him. Steve knows him. He spoke in a 21 convention several times Now look at look at their faces at the beginning of the show, right? And by the way Now I haven't asked Sean about this but You know, he used to do this before the train wreck podcast with rich rich cooper here I'm rich group rich channel to my knowledge. This was the last episode Sean was ever on with rich and I don't think and their buddies or they were anyway I don't know what they are now, but I don't think Sean I don't think rich necessarily wanted to kick Sean off the show I think rollo got so fucking butthurt in this show Because Sean has no tolerance for pseudoscience and this fake Bro science bullshit the role is empty, right this keyboard jockey nonsense Sean's a real Sean has a real phd in psychology. This dude's a fucking badass, right? Uh, so look at look at the face there And look at the face here. Look at this The whole thing is like this. I mean the the longer it goes the more crazy you got Because rollo can't take no for an answer Sean has no tolerance for adding this bullshit And this is just one. There's another one. I'll show you guys too rollo debated, uh Stiffon molly another speaker at 21 convention a famous youtuber had a million subscribers Stiffon molly new brought rollo on his show and rollo got his fucking ass handed to him And then rollo after that all of a sudden stiffon molly news the devil, right Before that molly news cool. Steve, you know molly new you met him at 21 I that dude that dude is happy to debate anybody talked anybody Have a level-headed conversation about ideas and shit And all of a sudden rollo says that needs that I have text messages of them coming after fucking uh stiffon molly Let me pull this shit up. Hang on. Stiffon molly new hypergamy It's not on youtube because they nuked uh Or is it They nuked it off youtube this whole fucking channel and see if I pull this up so once uh bichard coper looks like zodiac with his sunglasses bichard I play this what is this bullshit? I was gonna say uh one issue where why rollo doesn't want to debate anybody He can't control the narrative Exactly There it is. I found it. Oh, this is the whole thing too. I gotta download this shit I only had half of it So it starts off fun rollo's all fucking cheerful, right? And by the end of it rollo's fucking is this a little bitch Anyway, you guys can go watch that if you want to watch rollo's buddy and get his ass handed to him These are two examples of high profiles of psychologists philosophers like real fucking dudes And never mind anybody in the monastery rollo won't do anything anymore because he's a fucking scared little bitch Rollo is the biggest bitch ever in real life like people have no idea People meet rollo and they're shocked at what a fucking he's like a little like someone said he's a lesbian He looks like a lesbian. That's what steve. That's what steve was just saying about about myron. That's the thing It's like it's this all fucking bark You know, they they build up this whole facade that they start to buy into it themselves But when he's not on that in that fresh and fit studio, he's just a weak little bitch all the all the rest of the time Exactly All types of offer for rollo all smoke a shit little weed beforehand. So I'll be like my cognitive capacity So my mind will be barely working and we can have a debate. We can stack the odds in his favor and then we can see how it goes Rollo really has a god complex like I've never if you notice some rollo goes on his podcast and shit And it shows whether it's one on one or one on with five people whatever No one disagrees with them and if anyone does it's like this huge awkward thing because rollo can't handle it And he just like in his whole show probably they're called sick I think the best way to call it sick of fans right like little miniature cult leaders is rule zero thing craps you're all that crap No one can disagree with them They all have to buy into the his theory of epigamy and the rollo pill and all these acronyms and all this fucking bullshit about women It's never about men. It's always about women, right? It's never tough focusing on yourself and shit Yeah, it's a massive Because I've guessed on my podcast all the time who I disagree with and we have respectful debates I'll debate at any time. I don't give a shit like if you as long as you're not like a troll. That's my own department Yeah, so I think it's pretty telling when someone refuses either Doesn't want to do a debates in the first place or Since a point refuse to do debates that probably means that they're not confident what they believe in that's the only reason They wouldn't do it. It's otherwise. Why would they not? Yeah, he's a fraud basically exactly everybody who disagrees with him is If you notice to your projection right rollo calls everybody a grifter and a fraud and all this bullshit So mld is doing to mld just did a stream. Oh, I've been preacher grifting our fresh and fits. What's shut the fuck up Yeah So let's talk about the culture of fraud in the manisphere and we can go like a round table Steve You know, what do you think about is it important for men to call out? Uh and make conflict then, you know, this should be genuine. I guess Call out frauds and their spaces like, uh, I'm a do fubba dobo I do Yeah, that's that's important because The thing about manhood and game is that game recognize game game always recognize game And you can always recognize those who have game versus those who don't and and you you have to I mean I don't even have to it just it's just something that happens when you when you're around pipe hitters You humble yourself talk and you you share knowledge But when you get around the humans that try to pretend or cave fave their way Trying to get into the table with the big the cool kids. They're just they're the guys in high school One of my boys said the best they're the guys in high school that wanted to sit at the big table They walked around the big table and all that other stuff So they left to another school and created a big table and tried to be the cool guys But the week you can always recognize weakness in somebody when you can tell when they get emotional You see a lot of emotions out of irolo and especially my uku-dubugu and uh, walter you see out of those You see a lot of uh, a lot of emotions a lot of mommy coming out of them because like y'all are saying A man should always stand on this square and a man should always be able to debate his points of view It without without even the hesitation. You want me? Let's go do it right now. Boom. Boom. Boom, but they don't They remember they're mimicking each other So they're parroting other all they're doing is right morillo want a cracker, you know, right? I see rollo. All right, rollo this right rollo, you know, so they just mimic So when you force them to get in front of a real person they bitch John thoughts um Say the question one more time Yeah, so what do you think about the culture of fraud in the man's sphere? Is it important to call people out for being losers and fakes? I've got like 40 videos. I I just did like 10 more on on fresh and fit, but I I've called out so many dudes In the man's sphere. Here's the thing. It's like You anybody that knows these guys like I'm kind of like the sounding board for a lot of these guys Like if say you know these that these guys are full of shit any any particular coach Then you have definitive evidence of it without a channel you have no voice Right, so even if a whole bunch of people behind the scenes know that these guys are full of shit Whoever has the biggest platform wins and I only got 27k subs But when you put out videos like this another and then and then some big channel comes along like abam preach and picks it up YouTube's algorithm shove fuckloads of video or fuckloads of views into those onto all those videos I made now in the in the recent past and everyone's like holy shit But those videos all have massive dislikes because for like the past six seven months everybody thought I was just a hater Which doesn't even make sense because it wasn't just my opinion in those videos I always I always show evidence and show You know support for all the different claims I'm making it's not just oh, I don't like these guys Um, and if they're not if they're not full of shit, I don't attack them So, you know exactly exactly That's really I'm glad you brought that up because if I don't care, you know If I didn't like fake and fraud that's different than coming out for them being frauds I wouldn't come out for them either right the same thing with donovan and sending the rollo I don't there is no beef. I haven't these guys people say it's they call it They accuse you too, right? What do you have with them beef? It's like I don't I don't have beef with them There's no like personal fucking vendetta. It's that they're a fucking loser and they're fraud and they're hurting men Like they're they're preying on them like like parasites For money and these dudes need real help like I hear that I hear the fallout too the past 10 years I've been coaching every I've been almost a guy to talk to it's always the same story It was usually rsd, but I there's a mix of red pill disasters in there too It's yeah, I spent a bunch of time effort and money. I got nowhere. I went backwards That's the story I hear thousands of times. Yep. And so then I go on and I say, hey, look Do you want to go down that same path? Do you want to waste years of your life? And and even worse than wasting all those years eventually that then the guy gives up Or he or he starts to get so depressed or start or start shifting towards like, you know Just giving up on women all together. I talked to all the guys are like, okay I tried all this pickup stuff They tried it with scam companies And multiple scam companies and eventually they said fuck this because all those companies say, hey, you're the problem You're the problem. You're the problem. It's very rare. I can't get a guy very good Regardless who he is. I've even gotten guys in wheelchairs late And you know game is real And and it can be taught and it can be taught very quickly, especially when you when you know it really well And so I I take I take offense on a personal level and these guys come in claiming to be experts as anyone should in any craft If anyone came into any space and said, hey, I'm the man Blah blah blah and then and then just fucking wasted a bunch people's time effort and money Yep You any real expert should have a very real problem with that and should speak up But then you got guys like like bulldog mindset who I respect That says no just kind of take the pc route and just handle it offline and stuff But I think this shit should be made very public Yeah Well, if you notice good, you brought that up because the public thing because they're always donovan did it and so Myron or uh armor of foe duel and all these fucking rollo all these fucks, right? Like oh, let's keep the private private private private, right? It's always private, right? Private, you know, what are they doing exactly the scamming in public and they don't want the truth They don't want the sunshine on the fucking bullshit They do because it shows the world what fucking losers there. I'm fucking manipulators man Yeah And look what and look what you take like I've experienced a lot of the repercussions pretty hardcore like I've had multiple strikes on the channel. There's been multiple peers. I've had two strikes on the channel I've had to private all the exposed videos and just be really pc for 90 days until the strikes clear. I've had uh Endless slander posted on on reddit and videos I've had to sue modern life dating over all the slander because he took it way too far with all the slander claims He made and then people paired all the slander. So there's lost business. There's damage to the reputation There's stuff all over reddit that says the biggest scammer in the community Even though the direct the direct opposite is true just because I take these guys on so you become public I get death threats all the time all that kind of shit But I don't give a fuck because you know at the end of the day like I think it's important these things be known and there's no there's no quality control Like I said like anyone can come on the camera and say anything And I and I see the result these guys guys have a mental breakdowns guys are slipping into big depressions We're here to help men and collaborate and and push community forward And most of the most of the coaches are dragging it in the opposite direction Tales from the Rollo's 54, I think Look at look how much better Steve looks Steve you said you're almost A turn 50 on the 21st, but and a happy later birthday a1 You look like you're in your 30s and look at rollo. He didn't fucking take care of himself Yeah But this is what I understand and again, I don't judge men and please everyone listen I don't judge men, but How can you look at him and say he has game? How can you look at rollo? And say he can go get some women. I just it breaks my cake-ass brain to even try to think about Hi, I ain't doing I ain't Rollo Tomasi and he doesn't even use his real name. I mean Mercy Tyler same shit a little a little fucking Ginger weirdo like when I when I hung out with him. I took a live program with them in 2012 And I was going around the chicks were all given reactions afterwards. I talked to them. They say gay weird creepy awkward But all the fanboys think he's banked 5000 girls and all this kind of shit And it just goes to show like what a charismatic call figurehead can do you pretty much can get anyone to believe anything Yeah, that's what the internet right? It's it's this veil It's the computer screen and these this this distance that they get, you know, psychologically from the guy That's where the veil comes from like when you meet Omar Fogel myron gains He's he's kind of fucking weird like he's kind of spurgy like I was saying I really think this dude is uh, Whereas I think he's autistic a little bit, right? I don't think he's some massive He's he's definitely super weird like when he hit me up Looking and he was trying to like hardline at 500 bucks for bootcamp. I'm no way in hell I'd ever do And he was just saying all kinds of really really strange like you just tell he wasn't He didn't he lacked basic common sense basic social skills and I texted Because that because he did a balance for I'm like, dude, what's this guy's dealing in outside? He's really fucking strange Dude, rollo is the exact same way rollo lacks basic social skills He can't He can't not only can he not get laid if he got divorced tomorrow or something like that if he wanted to right He can't even like sit down and have a beer or a drink with other men and just be chill Like I met alex in her life and alex is a fuck. We met at a cigar bar I had some buddies. He brought some buddies right and we just like chilled out for a bit We had cigars and shit alex is a normal human being who also then teaches men how to do stuff with women, right Rollo can't do that. He's a fucking weirdo. He has zero friends Have you ever heard anyone watching have you ever heard rollo tamasi talk about having a friend any friends a single male friend? What about Richard? He has he's friends of Richard Cooper, right? Oh, they're not friends. They're just dicks. They just suck each other's dicks, man Rich Cooper is less retarded than rollo, but he's still a fraud Cooper's just a big uh, he's super greedy like he's all about money Like it's not only he's he's all about money to an insane degree not like some like i'm a badass business guy What he tries to pretend to be he's just a fraud who's just like out to get money too He'll do anything to get money out of guys say anything whatever he has to fucking pitch It's all bullshit. It's all it's kind of a vibe I got from him. Let me just add in one quick thing Yeah, good because I just agree with what bulldog mindset said also I respect the guy but yeah, he was dead wrong about that and I actually made a comment saying that As a community at the monastery if you want to grow and evolve you can't just ignore the elephant in the room You have to call shit out You will never grow and evolve as a community if you just keep ignoring shit and like oh, well, you know It's better be just keep focusing on myself, right? But then if someone gets more subscribers with you the community narrative will shift in that narrative direction So part of being an accountable member of a community is to call out bad ideas. That's what you know John's been doing really well. I'm doing to some extent myself. You know, you've done as well I'm not too familiar with your work of the man mindset, but Yeah, so I think that you gotta keep doing that and it's not being a hater It's not cloud chasing in fact If my goal was to gain cloud it would have been much more advantageous for me to actually be positive To what's it called fresh and fit they live down the street for me if I could get on their podcast I'll get way more views right and that was my goal to cloud chase. I would just do that It's not you gotta call out bad ideas Yeah, you got to call it bad ideas and bad actors. Those are two different things, right? Now they're typically interrelated like the rollo pill is a set of toxic cultish ideas from the fraud father Yes, you know this guy from mcdonald's this guy But it's it's both you need to call out the ideas which is what if you look at the the debates that this guy had with Dr. Sean Smith and stafan malinu That's what happens They call out his bad ideas and he can't handle it because he's a bitch and a fraud So then we have to go after the fraud himself in addition to the ideas the other guys can take down So both I think are useful It's the ideas we got to go after to expose the truth and then also the individual And that's where it gets heated because then you have like these uh A comment they're put in the chat these guys that are in the cult. They have emotional attachments to these people, right? They've invested like drama saying time and effort and money For even on patreon even if it's like six months, right? It's not even that long They've been paying 10 bucks a month 20 bucks a month down the drain To someone who is ripping them off the whole time didn't know anything about women I can't get laid. Walter weeks is probably fucked like 20 chicks, right? If that like his whole fucking life He claims about 2,000 women or whatever the there's there's a whole bunch of shit I've been sitting that haven't released yet. I can't even keep up with it people people There's a dude that literally that pays escorts in miami And and one of them like went on on their show or whatever and he's like, yeah, I talked to the girl about it and like She she's like, yeah, we never like had a three Basically, they're just like making up fake claims on the show to look cool And the girl's like, yeah, we told them they could say that just to sound cool like stuff like that It goes it goes so far. They want to do everything they can to paint themselves out to be like the ultimate Ladies men, but there's there's it's all hollow Someone asked the funny thing is that any girl who I've shown fresh off the podcast of many girls And any girl who looks at walters like what like he like fact of matters He has a pretty severe stutter problem like he has a very hard time articulating like Yeah, I don't want to like make personal attacks against him But he needs a speech therapist, you know if he wants to like help his whatever person if he was if he was innocent I would say don't make personal attacks, but he's a fraud I mean at that point, you know, you get what you you get with urine man You act like this fraudulent piece of shit. You scammin out of money that I'm gonna fucking make fun of you But he's a dude. He's the ceo. I I have on my to-do list. I'm gonna literally order that same ceo shirt and the ceo I'm gonna make a Yeah But yeah, the idea that he's like a ladies man is just hilarious to like any trick ever that's watched it Yeah Anybody that has game The same with rc tyler. It doesn't stop them from becoming ultra popular. That's what's so fascinating to me It's like you couldn't do that. You couldn't do that in like basketball or you know, like fucking poker chest Or anywhere where you'd have to like prove your real your real skills You wouldn't be able to do that shit Well to me again, I've been doing this for over 30 years So I remember back with the pua puas with the squeeze pages and stuff This is like a kind of a squeeze page all over again What they're doing to these young men is saying that oh, I understand you, you know I understand you're going through all these problems, but guess what? It's not your fault It's her fault. It's the woman's fault. It's the it's the trees the flowers and everything like that So it takes accountability from these young men and they love that they love the fact that they can't look at themselves And then they would that's the that's the catch all because They want to they want to feel like they are about something they want to be part of a community They want to be something so they they change their language They change all this stuff and because they learn all this stuff That's when they protect the one because they feel like that one is the one that loves and cares about them so much that They don't want no harm to come to them. So it's it's amazing That's that's exactly right though. That's that's a really good point is that um They they just want to feel like they belong somewhere and when they don't have to take personal responsibility They can say oh, it's just a woman's fault. It's an easy easy way out They don't have marketers that came into this space like girlfriend activation system They said oh, you don't even need to approach Just get our product that the girls will come to you and that you know That happens to be one of the one of the areas guys struggle with the most Isn't that can be it's the same way when you have like weight loss scam pills Like don't you don't need to go to the jam or watch what you eat. Just take this magic Fat melting pill. Yeah, that's more than one one guys. I gotta get going. I got okay, but uh, yeah Thank you for having me on it's good chatting with all you guys Alex, hey, well, yeah, Alex if you I was coming to 21, right? Oh, yeah Hey, get at me. Alex. I I show first. So I mean we'll tell me if you need to be picked up. I got you. Just let me know I'll have a little more. Yeah, I'll see you there. I'll be there too Say what you say what you john, you know, I'm a huge fan of yours. Yeah, so absolutely. Just let me know Let me know Definitely So this guy says dark killer 5t1. I changed my beliefs once I found john's and anthony's channel Thank you, brothers. You're welcome man 100% Yeah Yeah, I know our names are so similar people accuse me of being you all the time I'm not people call me. Yeah people. I think a lot of people from other countries too. They say they like say surnames first So people call me anthony all the time. I don't know if you could call john all the time, but I get called andrew a lot actually. I don't know why But and I appreciate this guy's saying this because like man, I actually I've been in this community for 15 years Over 15 years really since 2005 when I found the pua community and I actually care about it I care about the issues I care about when I was young especially when I stuck with chicks I cared about getting better with chicks putting my dick and women and that takes effort and time and skill and repetition and like learning Learning through experience in my case as well as studying, you know throughout the community and stuff Writing dude, I've written probably like 500 pages of fucking field of ports back in the day Trying to figure out, you know chicks trying to figure out myself trying to figure out how to navigate You know bars nightclubs and shit These losers on these podcasts like the the fraud father and fake and fraud and the sharp mama and all these fucking faggots They have none of that. They have no experience with women in any way shape or form It's all bullshit. It's all scammed to get money out of you guys. It's sick, man It's really sick and the fact that they not only are frauds in and of itself, which is bad They pretend to care about men. They pretend to care about the ministry. They pretend to care about the community That's the sickest thing of all is they actually care to like they pretend to care about all these other more Oh, it's how you put it ephemeral issues, you know what I mean? Like these like these very abstract issues right feminism and masculinity and the family and fatherhood It's all fucking bullshit. They don't give a fuck about any of it. That's what these I think that's what fake and fraud are really exposing It's they are such frauds It's such a massive level that a lot of guys heads are exploding, right? So like I can't believe these guys aren't for real. They're not legit when they've said all we care about men We care about helping you and all this fucking bullshit. We're gonna help you with your credit now They have videos and like credit cards and shit now. It's like This has gotten so fucking out of control. But I'm really glad they fucked up so bad, you know And they got ab in preach to come in big big swing in with that shit Like that was like john had great videos on him for months and we talked about him too in here on the red man group But then you had these giant channels come in like nuclear weapons Just bombing them with videos, man. I hope they get kicked off youtube straight up I don't give the fuck at this point. These motherfuckers are so toxic and so scammy and so fraudulent No mercy, man. Fuck. Well, dude. I mean that gun situation. I mean that's exactly that's getting pretty close You know, they're basically like a standoff about to be a shooting broadcast on youtube There's no way that's the last time that kind of shit's gonna happen either All they do is fucking drama market all this shocked, you know, what do you call jerry springer stuff, right? Like eventually someone's gonna get punched some chicks gonna get hit See, you know, someone's gonna fucking fall off the balcony. Someone's gonna shoot a gun They're gonna get their ass beat by Haitians or something in Miami Like these dudes are are a World whirlwind or a whirlpool this down where like a toilet flushing of just loser fake fraudulent hyper aggressive ridiculous beta bullshit Uh, only only rivaled by donovan the sharp mama as far as i'm concerned Let's talk about the other frauds in the man's sphere. Someone was asking about erin clary So if you guys want to ask about frauds like by name, I'll go into it But some uh, john, do you have any thoughts on erin clary before I get him? I'm not too familiar with him to be honest He hangs out with uh, you know the fraud father and all these guys. He was on fresh and fit a lot I get I get sent so much shit though because I'm like the one channel that fucking tells me everything pretty raw On these dudes. I don't hold him back. So people send me all kinds of shit if I search my email Can you continue discussion? I'll tell you what people told me about him. Sure. Yeah, his name is uh, erin clary I've known him for a while like he's he was a blogger back on the day. I think If I had to go left or right on it I think I would lean fraud on erin clary because he hangs out with so many fucking he's like not He's not a massive fraud like the fraud father and donovan and shit But I think he's like basically a secret beta male gamma male And he's just like a keyboard jockey And so he attracts a lot of beta male sims like that. They're also with the fake and fraud people and the fraud father That's why he hangs out with them birds of a feather flock together, right? If you're not a fraud you tend to get away from tamasi pretty quickly, right? You know whether it's uh him fighting with stifan molyneux Or obviously he was with me for just a couple years and i'm like fuck this loser And I have videos from 2017 way back in the day 2017. I said it right in front of roleless face I said on stage at 21 convention. This guy is either like absolutely genius or a completely fraudulent bullshitter I said that right to his face back in 2017 because even back then when i was first getting to know him I was on the fence I was like, this is either really cool like theory or it's just absolutely some loser Pretending to be some theory badass like a keyboard jockey Like back in the pa community. So we called these guys, right? All they did was right They never went out never bang any chicks never did anything They would just write and write and write and write endlessly like they're fucked up in the head Who's fraud father? Who's some other frauds we should get into uh, we got for example here your whole fraud list, uh, john anthony is pretty nice A really nice clean list of frauds Oh man, uh, Derek moneyberg is one of the biggest frauds i've ever seen holy shit that dude is mega fraud Do you think Derek moneyberg's a bigger fraud than fake and fraud fresh and fit? Yeah, for sure I mean, they're both they're both lying about a lot of stuff But what came out from the the Derek thing and he has like an active lawsuit Uh going right now again against one of the guys, um, which you know, I don't want to I don't want to it's not me, but basically I don't I'm gonna be careful what I say, but um It was revealed from someone that worked on the inside that he writes none of his fucking content for his courses He hires like 19 20 year old kids to just grab stuff off the internet Right, so it's regurgitated shit But then what they're doing is they're creating homework for these guys to create problems that didn't exist that their upsells can solve And they're just trying to extract as much money as possible with these guys they're trying to use high pressure sales tactics predatory lending And coerce these guys into just getting as as much as many loans as they can and sign up for as many of these programs as they can And on their live programs, it's the the dating uh coaches are just sales guys And that are just trying to upsell them on two more programs The whole thing is just one big money grab And when they get on the the lives every week for the course, it's just to upsell more products Everything's just centered around upselling and then and then he's doing you know buying fake press releases on forbs. He's doing Yep, what's it called? You know buying all the followers on instagram. He went from like zero followers in may have last year to now over 2.5 million and you know the thing is is like How do you stop that? So there's a class action lawsuit Going currently that hasn't been served on him yet, but isn't the works And basically you just need a whole bunch of the victims to come forward tell their stories You know, they can either willingly have the people involved creating the content tell the tell what's going on or they can subpoena them But a lot of this stuff has to be handled legally like the modern life dating saying all that shit I can make response videos, but i'm also He's been served with a lawsuit And that's ongoing because he just went and made like 30 slander claims Dude, I had to file a lawsuit as well as here against two former speakers because of the donovan shit Like that's how I had to file for the first time in my life. I had to file a lawsuit against somebody, you know And that's not even over. There's more too. The first hearing is on august 30th and like on monday Right, we have to go to court and all this bullshit It's gonna go on for months and months and months because these idiots fuck around and find out And they associate with frauds and do all this dumb shit. It's sick man. It's really sick I mean, it's a whole I would say like John we talked about this a while ago. Maybe steve can comment too like I would say at least 70 of the manisphere content creators are frauds Like on some on some level there's different degrees of this like the fraud father's at the top Derek moneyberg is a massive fucking fraudulent fuck up the fake and fraud obviously this is this huge blow up But really it's like so many of these losers losers in real life Aaron clary is a good example. I think it's just like a negative and someone called him a nihilist. They can fucking lose her And that pretty much sums it up It doesn't mean he wants to hurt men. I mean, there's different There's different like predatory levels of this, you know, that's what I see Some guys are just pussy pussies and there's bullshitters Some guys are really hardcore scammers. I really like they they get guys like you said I've heard of that too even years ago. I'd hear to that Their sales guys would encourage guys to take out credit cards and get loans Just to buy shit from them and get down Yeah, that's that's the thing too is like he made like a stocks mastery course for 5k like real estate mastery course And the guy that was behind a lot of that stuff He's like, yeah, dude, he's bringing on 19 year old kids I don't know shit about the topic to train like wealthy businessmen and stuff on these things just by regurgitating stuff from the internet And you know and then and then you dig a little bit further behind the scenes And he's starting off all his company meetings with with chanting white power and stuff like that And I said all that on youtube. I made a I made a video saying he's erased this piece of shit Siding all that documentation. It's not slander. He's doing it. There's other wow damn Damn, man, you know, I see if I heard tony bruno was called white the other night Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah Yeah, so someone's asking me am I suing uh, george bruno. Yeah, I'm suing george bruno and zack small It's all public. You can search orange county of florida court records to follow it The court will publish all the documents that they believe are Not sensitive in our public, which is pretty much all of it. So yeah, you guys can go watch that and the first The first court thing is on monday that august 30th And we'll see where it goes. You know, we'll see what the judge says and all that but so far it's looking pretty good Someone else is asking about Let's see Sterling cooper so yeah, sterling cooper. I don't know that guy. I've heard some good things about him He does hang out with a lot of frauds I do know for a fact because he said it publicly on video and we reviewed it john on red man group before Sterling cooper sells pictures of his butthole the gay men on only fans Come on, man, straight up man. He told rollo. He told Rich cooper to their face rollo was licking his lips man. I was like Straight up man, it's on red man group like 130 or something like I heard I heard about that That's fucked up. So I don't know what to make of that. How do you advise dudes on how to be alpha? If you take literal pictures of your butthole and sell them for five dollars The gay men on only fans. There is no shame Yeah, that's That's either completely satiopathic in which case you're fucked up in the head or It's just fraud bullshit. I don't know man You know that makes you wonder too what he does behind closed doors, you know, if you oh, yeah Some guy offers him a grand to give him a blowjob or something like that, you know, he probably does If you're gonna sell pictures of your butthole to gay men, why wouldn't you suck their dicks? I mean, come on This guy goes on rule zero the cruel zero shit all the time and gives mice Advice to men on being an alpha male Step one take a picture of your butthole with your legs up in the air and sell it to gay men on the internet That's what passes for advice in the hemisphere and that shit is cosine that dude's been on fake and fraud fashion fit He's been hanging out with rollo on his show and all their shit for a long time That's what these fucking weirdos are into that is what these coaches sell Like that is what me and john and all these guys have to fight with these people Who endorse dudes who sell pictures of their butthole and give charge charge men for advice on how to talk to women I don't think women like men generally who sell pictures of their butthole to gay men But that's just my opinion, you know, I could be wrong. I guess Yeah, I mean It's so fucked. It's like I've been like, uh, horrified the past decade watching No, watching watching who number one who the role models are and watching how bad this how bad the systems are And and knowing from a lot of stuff behind the scenes that those guys suck with chicks like more more so than average guys That's the thing like a lot of the big leaders in the space only leaders in popularity Fuck with women They're atrocious And and they don't need to provide proof all they do all they need to do it is be able to tell fake stories In a convincing charismatic way. That's it. Yeah Hey, let's go. Let's do a positive one here So they're asking about Andrew Tate and the tape brothers. I've met Andrew Tate several times and his brother His brother with the fucking anything Tristan Tate. Yeah, they're they're they're totally legit I think they're legit too Now I get why guys would ask this because their lifestyle is so extravagant But they're legit. I mean cobra straight up Andrew. I know better than Tristan I've talked to both of them a lot but particularly Andrew And he has real charisma like one of the black guys I was commenting on like that big jack dude that Did the the walk-in and all that he was talking about you Tate and he's right Andrew has real charisma with women in real life and you can see that you can see that just talking to him for five seconds I was dude as a fucking He's a man and he knows he's a man He doesn't apologize for being a man and he's fucking like 400 500 women or something Like it's really obvious. Yeah, he claimed 450 Yeah, when I I did a I did an interview with him and he and I was saying like what do you say to these people that Let's say you're fake and all this, you know Krauser was saying that his kickboxing career is fake and a bunch of shit And so what do you think about these red pill guys talking shit on you? He said I've got a bunch of supercars. They're on the bus. He's like, I've got seven girlfriends. Well, you know, they What do they got nothing, you know, I don't have shit And that really says it all, you know, you don't need to you don't need to fucking You know, what do you need to say to these guys these guys that talk shit that have zero receipts Is everyone feels and then guys will go on my I got hundreds of hours in field people like modern life dating and Troy Francis they'll go and critique my infield. Oh, look at this. Oh, he sucks. He hasn't They don't have a man. Let's talk about Troy Francis. I think he's gay, man He talks about he said any whole His background his back. He said that Yeah I'll make a video on that dude I already did a video showing he was covering all the gay all the gay parties in london. Did you see that? Oh, man, I don't know. Maybe I think I saw it. Yeah, yeah Dude, if you pull up my go to my type Troy on my on my channel and it shows the article He was covering gay and trans events. That was literally his job Before he became a dating coach check it out This one, uh, yeah Just scroll Wait, there was there was that that's the girl from the hand Oh If you scroll a little bit, there's like the news article Tranny Show the show the news article let's see, uh Keep going a little more a little more a little more Um, keep going. It's gonna show like it's like this london Yeah, there's ryan stones girlfriend There we go. There's ryan stones girlfriend. There it is right there. Look at this shit No, man. Come on, man This is what this is what Troy was writing That's what I mean, dude. It goes so deep it goes. What's his real name? What's his real name? Oh, uh, John Lucas right there Who wrote articles on training night clubs and gay song parties go a little bit more. There's another screenshot on a little bit Right here right here This is written by him gay nightlife is dying grinder and gentrification I heard he was on grinder, man. Tony Bruno told me a while ago Yeah, what are you explain this? Steve what do you think is is can you give dating advice to men if you sell pictures of your butthole? Is that to me that's off limits as a as a convention a professional convention organizer for For you know male speakers to talk to men. I think that's pretty that's pretty gay That's what you think about that's fruit. We call fruit booty, man. That's That's What's his obsession? Why was his job all about gay nightlife? Oh, here we go again. Look at this He's talking about gay partygoers LGBTQ night club culture this is supposed to be a dating coach for men Is that in it man You can't even make this shit up like if I wanted to write a narrative about these guys real back stories I couldn't even do better than this. They're real back series are insane. I mean look at this guy. Let's not forget about him Oh god I thought donovan was the worst of the worst next to maybe the fraud father, but I mean, yeah fake and fraud have taken a team level I mean troi francis now putting you know any holes the goal and the gay night clubs and the pissed dungeons Well, dude, you know, you know, it's you know what's what I realized on this on this Our chat here when steve said that myron was just a fitness guy I remember back two years ago. He was hitting me up saying hey We should collab my fitness stuff with your dating stuff and I mentioned us to alex At the beginning of the podcast. He's like, yeah, he was hitting me up for that too So this literally just a guy that was concerned with fitness That all of a sudden, you know created this platform where he now says number one dating podcast Where's he getting his dating information from rollo? yeah, oh Befriend it befriend these guys in the red pill world and then just regurgitate their information and then claim to be a dating guru Yeah, they all just regurgitate rollo stuff. Exactly. It's all the rollo pill the cult of the the fraud father I mean and then become the sharp mama. I mean, look at this fucking guy Well, how do you explain this shit? Oh, look at look at this shit with troi How do you explain this shit with the uh With the fucking gay nightlife coverage You can't I mean, I'll send you the video too where he says any hole is the goal And he's talking they were talking about transsexuals and stuff So that tells me he's either gay or bi I would think bi is this kind of like, you know, but who knows? I mean, maybe he's just gay. I don't know And if he's gay, you know, that is what it is, but you can't lie about it It's the lying. That's the problem, you know, I mean, would you would you would you buy dating advice from somebody if they were gay? If you wanted to put your dick Of course Oh man, and how about this guy the pedo man the pedo stalker he stalks children I can't officially say anything else about this guy till the case of I'm not suing him in a lawsuit this motherfucker. Oh man I created that monster too, man. I led him on the red man group way back in the day I was like, I just some dumb kid it'd probably be fine. Maybe he's got some things to say You know, who knows you never know, right? You know, I try to try to be open minded with these people And then they put any holes the goal and they they take pictures of their butthole and Then you got to fire a man like trump, you know, you're fired Yeah, uh, john, what do you think about rhinestone steve? You got any comments on ryan as well? rhinestone hasn't gotten any heat lately. He has a friend up put his girlfriend up again Is that in your video? Yeah, it's in the toy video But yeah, steve steve can weigh in I I don't know a whole lot about him that he tried to talk shit And I made that I made a video against him But that picture of his girlfriend. There it is. There it is. Let me blow that up. Yeah What would you what would you rate that that chick there? Uh, I'd give her like a five maybe a five and a half It's a little bit like let's still be like miss piggy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah for sure. I'm trying to be nice. I mean, you know She's pretty fat pretty chubby She's not like a balloon though like a beluga whale Apparently that's the uh, the latest thing to call people's wives. Why is he even married? He doesn't have any kids of this woman. Like why is he even married to her? I've been even though I mean, I know because canada has common law and ship but like why If you're not gonna have kids of the woman, why is she even your wife? Like what is the purpose of this? This is fucking stupid Yeah, steve you any thoughts on ryan? You never got to meet him at 21, right? I never I never really got a chance to meet him, but I mean From where I'm from you don't take pictures like that. That's like I'm Looks like he's getting ready to hang out with chloe franc Hassan I mean look at this this That looks like a dude I mean that looks like uh But then again english women are really ugly man I like english women are someone like australian woman and someone published one on the planet Look, he's not he's with another tranny in the beginning. There's there's some like Asian tranny There you go. Oh, yeah, that's a that's supposed to be a check. That's some no. No, that's some known tranny. Oh my yeah It's definitely a dude, man Dude any in fucking my run and shit, too. There's like some cash Chrissy. Yeah Yeah, there's some hey, how do I find the pictures of? What videos have my run with the dudes go to go to type my run? Oh It's the first Myron exposed the second video Have you seen these Steve? Yes, I said yeah, I became a I became a fan of John's ain't that that was here Right here. Yeah, that was dog when he showed me Like, you know, this is this is why I first dropped his real name though What's blurred there is the Amru foodle and he any privacy struck it so I had to fucking blur it So I think you're removed But this is what I understand How can you see these real legitimate photos and believe this guy has game? I you would never see me laying with a dude like that Like what I mean wait And you got Troy Francis in the corner right in a piece about game nightlife What but but how do you even how do you take advice from that? I don't I just there's no Yeah, dude, it's not even that these that these It's not even that these guys are just bad coaches. There's a lot of fucking homo shit going on It's an amazing clusterfuck right Wait, we're gonna get Steve laughing wait go to it go to my my videos type RST Tyler gay Wait, watch dude. There's I compiled all the clips where he's making jokes about being gay doing gay Fucking motions watch watch Watch the beginning play can you play the audio about this here? Do you hear the audio? Yes? In me run it run it. Oh, this is really good. Let's let's get Steve Now is talk about how Luke Converted me and got me to come out of the closets Come out of the closet. Oh, we are totally gay. So you know that, right? Watch wait, let's go to what is this? Oh, I hired a dude off Fiverr Go go back. I want to show Steve one more part go back to that video one more time Where that's for a little bit a little bit. Oh, look I dressed up as Tyler here. I got a lot of funny shit. All right, so play Play a CD play right after this. Oh, yeah, play the audio here. All right, watch this So that's a boyfriend. All right without further ado Oh It's projecting what a pussy is but literally I guess right If Hang on we got to get down and hang on a second hang on We've got we've got video of him like like sucking dick on a straw in there Guys that are good with chicks wouldn't do that ever never would do that man Never What's the John you killing him with this stuff? Oh Yeah, it's it's fucking terrible It goes wait. I have like a long list of shit Right enough time in the day Let's get let's get into this one here. This is me. This is your real good one. Oh my gosh This can be a real good one. This Alex did a video on this of the day I wish you're still on the show John you can you can be some comments on this Let me skip the ad here you guys can see this. Yeah I Was fucking two ads come on you two be killing me. Oh, I thought that was him. Okay Okay, here we go. You guys ready Devon slept with a lot of guys gentlemen Devon has a high body count You think I don't know that my own girlfriend has had sex with a lot of men you think that I think I found some special Snowflake who does who declined parting through her 20s even though she has a great body Give me a break guys. You think I don't know It gets better it gets better. Hang on hang on. Where is it? Thank you. It's right. I love the great body claims, too. That's just funny Oh, yeah, hang on watch this 7% certain that I am not the biggest dick ever that Devon's ever taken and The way I thought is not the best sex she's ever had she's had bigger and better than me She hasn't told me this but I know I'm almost positive Devon's had bigger better dicks than mine But if I ever found out what one of these guys look like if I ever found out That one of those guys had a 12-inch cock. You better believe I'm gonna be f***ing insecure. You kidding me? What man? I love a 12-inch dick Devon's had bigger dicks than her now. I gotta see what that dick looks like. Of course it makes us insecure That's another reason why men don't, men of value, don't commit to women with a high body count Put a f***ing ring on it man. Look at this guy. Don't commit hot men of value. Don't commit to women who fucked hundreds of men He's had bigger better dicks huge dicks. Well, the worst part about that is he says if I find out that there was bigger dicks I've got to see those dicks Yeah, this to me is endlessly funny like every time I watch this I crack up laughing man This is so f***ing. This is his wife, man detox look at how he talks about his f***ing wife Because we know the more cocks that have been in you The more huge cocks that have been in you. It's just mathematical if you've been with five guys Okay, all right We can deal with that if you've been with 555 dude, you've probably had at least 10 12 cocks in you that are probably north of 10 inches guaranteed Guaranteed Yeah, I gotta go dude. Yeah, I can't He's the dick expert man. He's a statistician. We gotta we gotta we gotta show steve this one last play With this fruit booty The tiger one that we we did uh, we did a looping clip of him f***ing sucking dick on the straw That shit's really good. Is that the end of the straw video? Yeah. Yeah, where is it? Dude, these these guys the thing is you're like some of the most popular guys in the atmosphere This is why it's so insane. Yeah I love y'all This is a meat show man, it's it's endlessly they give us so much material. I mean It's like a comedy show, man. It just doesn't stop You both said you a box you both said you a box mire and and f***ing preachers has got the challenge out there too Oh, yeah Why don't we f***ing why don't we set it up? Why don't we just I'll set it up. I just want to say set it up tell him. Yeah, we can go We can go dip our hands in glass tell you I don't give a shit We can do like Kirk spot. Shit. I don't give a f*** if you want to fight me. I will step in the ring I will I didn't eat. I had no idea. I will do it and I'll again. I'll fight them both I'll fight them both. I will I'll fight them both too at the same time. If that's legal Well, these guys if they're the kind of guys a little bit out of one hit 100% Well, let me just say this before I go. Hey john. Hey, man. I'm a huge fan of you Why he's man you a dog you just a I'm free. I'm your buddy man. I don't want to be on your bad side the way you You kill motherfuckers and keep your foot on a motherfucking neck I love making these videos that I'm thinking about pivoting the channel a little bit And I just doing like half my videos on just reaction reacting on the f***ing parts in the space Yes, yeah, well respect to you and a one. Yeah, man. Always happy belated birthday. Thanks, man My man, I rocks with you. I'm in for life. You know that man. Don't f*** with a one you f*** with me So I just want to say to you guys man. It's been a pleasure Well, not this last half man. This last half with some f***ing sickness Oh man, y'all what's what's what's the message there? I mean, I I kind of lose hope sometimes if if that kind of If that kind of should exist and these are the most popular figureheads in the space That's what blows my cake ass mind. John. I don't under man. Look, look I got a straw a dude sucking the straw right now burned in my eye Get off this In rsd rsd was the leading company for years, man Yeah, but that's it's a gullible naive disillusion. It's like I say man Hey, look man, I appreciate both y'all man, but we we're in a battle where we we're just in a battle That's just how it is. It's the it's the real ones versus the lion manipulative snake oil salesmen that are really hurting these young men While we're trying to help them. So I I love men like this and alice came on I mean, these are the guys that people should be rocking with And it's sad that they are following these guys that don't know what the f*** they're talking about. But again, john A1 man, thank you for having me on y'all really kind of destroyed the last second It is. I mean y'all really made me I brought us a pep-toe Y'all hurt my stomach with that. So Man, I'm a hot y'all later, man. Y'all be good. All right. Yeah, thanks man. I respect to y'all, man Yeah, man This commenter said, uh, glad I tuned into this I learned a lot about the nonsense out here Fellows just being your own mask and framed. Don't be fooled out here by frauds today should have been proof of it all Yeah, I mean, there's so much right? We just did a little show on this john But I mean your your channel has a bunch of videos my channel has a bunch of videos Thank god, there's hundreds of responsive videos And they try to they all try to protect the scam like I've lost my instagram my facebook from calling these guys out I had lost my facebook group. I lost They try to copyright The videos any any time they can And get all and they just try to censor all the information anybody that I have I have receipts of donovan sharp the sharp mom He he did over 45 attempted strikes on my channel copyright and mostly privacy strike privacy strikes mostly 45 separate fucking strikes on my channel all you make a video about it I'm gonna make a video. Todd v just tried to strike one of mine down where I was calling all his method piece of shit That's the thing that he failed at all What's that? Oh, he failed on all of them all of one of them worked on red man group temporarily The video went down. I fought it and two weeks later. I got it back up So they actually took the video down and then I got it back up So that's pretty fucked man. Yeah rsd They tried like four or five times some of them went through what I appealed them And then I had to threaten the election and they just stopped completely because You can't it's against the terms of service to just abuse the copyright system too. That's right You can lose your channel when it's not a real I started having lawyers review And say okay This is good to go and then they come in and just try to copyright it so that they can get the bad information down about them Yep, you know Man, well, it's been a good show Uh Yeah, man, I think we'll wrap up. I appreciate your time. I'll put links in the description to everybody's channels He saw today john anthony alex playing with fire steve the dean williamson man mindset John will talk soon. Appreciate your time today Yep, and check out for those of you that's still around check out platinum dating system dot com About my eight week mentorship program underneath my my face here Yeah, I always I always love tuning in for these. There'll be a lot more videos for me on these topics in the in the Manosphere sounds good man. Look forward to them. 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