 As a breakfast in Placivia, Africa, banditry has become an enterprise making millions from the abduction of victims. They use lots of the money to buy more weapons and then reinforce and strengthen their capacity to continue what they're doing. The Nigerian government, the Niger State government, I beg your pardon, says over 60 motorcycles on specified number of cows and ams were recovered from terrorists and at least 200 people, 200 bandits have been killed in Niger State in the past days by operatives of the Joint Force, Tack Force in Rafi and Marag, local government areas in a gondola. Now in a total of 60 motorcycles were recovered and on certain number of cattle were also returned to their owners. Meanwhile, the Niger State government in a report says that bandits have taken over 12 local government areas in Niger State and no fewer than seven communities have been submerged in flooding in Sheruro local government area due to the ongoing construction of the hydroelectric power station in the state. We're being joined by security expert Yawso Getso this morning to make sense of all of this. Now, the Niger State has 25 local government and out of 25, you have 12 being occupied, dominated by bandits. Yawso Getso, just recently the government said that they had killed 20, according to the reports that we have, 20 bandits have been killed. And now we hear that 12 local government out of 25 it's in the control of this bandits. Is this not an irony? But as far as I'm concerned, it is the government that is fueling this crisis. I consider government responsible. I consider the people on power responsible and I consider the security operatives responsible and I consider the federal government of the federal republic of Nigeria as incapable and on serious and not really ready to fight this insurgents. Why? Because I had made mention time without number. That's one, the kidnapping business and other criminal criminalities that is happening in the North West and North Central, particularly that of Niger State. The criminals are known. The criminals location is known. Their hideout is known. And this activity started from one community out of many number of communities in the 25 number of local governments as you mentioned. When it is started, we have had a number of programs and a number of clarion call and we have provided free services, expert services at no cost to the government through local and international media providing professional ethical norms and values and guidance and patriotic approaches for how to deal with this situation. I want to tell you that I have been telling the government of the federal republic of Nigeria that there is no location of bandits that is not known to me. There is no location of bandits that is not known to the councilors that is not known to the local government chairman that is not known to the members of the state assemblies and that is not known to the members of the national assembly and that are not known to the members of the Senate of the federal republic of Nigeria. And at the same time, I want to tell you if you don't know, let me tell you the architectural structure that we have as far as formal and informal security structure that we have in all parts of northern Nigeria and in all parts of the country in Nigeria. One, we have community leaders that we call white heads. We have community leaders that we call district heads. We have community leaders that we call village heads. So all these village heads collect information through the other informal and formal structures, generate this information, and deliver it to the white heads every day and every now and then. That is one. These white heads used to meet with the district head whenever there is a serious intelligence information, either serious or un-serious. They normally provide this information to the district head. And in almost all the political words, 774 political words. And likewise, especially in Nigeria state, which is the subject matter, there are outposts here and there, at least in each local government, besides the division and police office, you have other outskirts, what is called outposts. That is a police outpost in the political words and other communities that are large. So at the same time, you have what is called, you have four primary sources of information, sources of intelligence, sources of operations, sources of making sure that they provide a kind of policy to ensure security of life and properties in all the locations. And there is no local government that you don't have division and police officer. There is no local government that you don't have the LSO, that is the local security officer, who is the representative of the DSS. There is no local government that you don't have a commanding officer of the civil defense. And there is no local government where you don't have an immigration officer who is in charge of that local government. These, among others, including the special tax posts, including the joint tax posts, including the special marshals and special co, as well as the civil vigilante, they work harmoniously in addressing and attending to ensuring provision of security of lives and property. So how comes, even at a time when Nigerians are suffering from getting the fuel, when Nigerians are finding a stain, two, three mates at the fueling station, even in Abuja here, where I'm talking to you, before we get fuel, how comes the bandits are getting fuel to fuel their vehicles, 200 motorcycles, 60 motorcycles, 150 motorcycles, and move, travel, and drive a ride between one kilometer to 60 kilometer to 100 kilometer to go and conduct their activities successfully and pull out. All right. Yahooza gets an interesting point you've raised, an interesting point you've raised about the bandits being able to fuel their motorcycles to drive many kilometers to go wreck havoc. We're talking about banditry. Before now, what's Boko Haram and Iswab? Let's just get a sense of who are these bandits? Two weeks ago, we had bandits killed about 1918 soldiers and six or seven police officers in KB state. When they attacked the convoy, no less than, of no less a person than the deputy governor of KB states. Who are these bandits and how did they get so powerful? And thank you very much for this question. As a criminal and criminality therapist of a West African forest, as well as the expert on security intelligence and investigation, I want to reveal, I want to tell you that bandits are those mostly members of those communities that are most of them full army that pick up arms as a result of their cattle that have been rusted and injustice from the government and judiciary as well as the security operatives. And this started many years ago because time may not allow us to give the full history of what happened, but we call them most of them are full army, hardsmen. And I want to tell you that 99.9% of these bandits are Nigerians and while 99.9% of those who are bringing arms to them who are importing arms to these guys, foreigners, the armed traders, 80% if not more than that are Nigerians. The armed transporters are 99.9% are Nigerians. The armed movers, 99.9% are Nigerians. And these bandits are members of our communities in all parts of northern Nigeria, that is in the northwest, in the northeast and is in the north central. And 99% of them are known to the communities they are attacking. So they are relating, it's not that they are new or they are coming from far away or as proclamation by the government of the Federal Republic of Nigeria through the Minister of Information sometime back and many times to the statement credited by many other principles of the government of Bahá'í administration that the bandits are foreigners. It is really not true. Bandits are Nigerians, bandits are citizens and indigenous of Niger state, of Sokoto state, of Zampara state, of Kaduna state, of all the state where they are operating. So these are the bandits and they are in possession of more sophisticated hands than what is obtainable in the hands of the Nigerian army. More sophisticated and more dangerous arm and weapons than what is obtainable in the hands of all the security operatives in Nigeria, in Nigeria. To our surprise, the inability of the government, lack of passion and lack of interest for the life, protection of life and property of common man, that is what is promoting or have promoted because the activity of the bandits started from the remotest part of the communities in northern Nigeria, in Niger state. It started from one local government and one community and we have one separately. Yahuza gets all information to the government to do the needful in order to deal with the situation but inability of the government, incapability as excavated in realistic and practical term that government is incapable of dealing with situation or government is part of the process or activities of the bandits and other criminalities in the forest. Yahuza gets all, the Niger state government has also given some reason why the activities of this bandits despite efforts being made to ensure that this menace has taken away has been on the increase. We've talked about the conventional security architecture that the country actually has and the fact that it makes vulnerable some of these communities. For instance, the response time and so you find out that some communities are in isolation. Before security personnel gets this a lot that you have bandits around, it takes three to four hours before they can actually get there. Don't you think that this should also be an issue of concern? I disagree with that. Why? Because I told you in each and every local government there used to be division and police office. There used to be. Local security office. You said there used to be. Division and police office, local security officers are present of the DSS, civil defense commandant, immigration in charge of the local government and there used to be a meeting in all the 774 local governments in Nigeria every month which is called monthly security meeting where hard earned money, taxpayers' money are being used for repression. Taxpayers' money are being used for transportation to the district heads, to the wide heads, to the police officers and everybody who is attending the monthly review meeting. So if this is happening and if a simple criminality will be the politicians are using it and conducting elections successfully and delivering a polling box and every other material successfully and peacefully to other moot areas, how comes they are saying or they are proclaiming that they cannot access some of these communities? It means that is exposing their negligence. That is exposing that is on seriousness. That is exhibition of incapability that is demonstrating and practically the government is making it very clear that the Nigerian government under Buhari's watch is not serious, is not committed and is not capable of managing the security of life and property. So then if they cannot provide security for life and property, how can they tell us that some of the communities are hard to reach? Where are the hard to reach communities? How are they delivering the polling boxes? How are they delivering the election materials? How are they delivering their key messages for when they wanted to be voted? How have they crossed all these communities when they were campaigning in the 2014, 2013, 2015 and 2019 before the elections? So this is unrealistic. These are kind of a shady excuses that cannot be accepted by us. We know all these communities. There is nowhere in Northern Nigeria, no community, no settlement, no hard to reach terrain that I don't know. Where are the difficult places? What is the importance of communication between the Division of Police Officer and the 3rd Commander of the Police? What is the importance of the communication between the controller of the immigration and the immigration staff of the local government? What is the importance of the communication between the commanding officer the 우리 and the state commandant of the civil defense and that of the commanding officer of the local government? What are they doing there? So how are they communicating? And why does that mean if that's the case, then government should come out and tell us that they don't have facilities, they don't have equipment, they are not ready, they are, then the government should resign. The whosoever should get out of the office. That's the reality. Yeah, who's against it? We're always seeing from. It's difficult to reach energy states. Yeah, yeah, who's against it? Yeah, Mr. Getso, we're always seeing from these reports. It may sort of paint the wrong picture, if you're not careful, of what is going on in Niger state. And it may threaten to overshadow the successes that have been recorded in the fight against banditry and insurgency in the northern part of the country. Because I think the governor of Niger state, Sandy Bello, did mention it a couple of days ago when he visited an internally displaced persons camp that they've recorded some successes. For instance, if you look at three days ago, a joint security task force in that same Niger state killed at least 100 suspected bandits in an operation at Bangi village in Marigaloko government area of Niger state. And you have other such killings of bandits and criminals in Niger state. So are we not being unfair to the government of Nigeria when we take these reports and do not look at the successes recorded in the fight against the criminality in that part of the country? Let me tell you, all these are political deceits. The governor's statement is a political deceit. The federal government statement, if they are in support of that, is a political deceit. I have told you, and I have said it time without number, and I'm going to repeat myself once again, there is no location of the bandit that is not known to us. When I say us, I mean the sunny pillow himself. I mean all the district heads. I mean all the Amias of Kwantagora, the Amias of Mina, the Amias of Bidya, and all other Amias. I mean all the district heads. I mean all the white heads. I mean all the councillors. I mean all the National Assembly and State Assembly members. I mean all the three senators from Niger state. And I mean all the police working in Niger state. And I mean all the DSS working in Niger state. And I mean all the immigration and the military working in Niger state. Let me tell you one thing. Do you know that we have an Air Force training school in Niger state and very close to where these bandits are operating? What is the essence of the barracks that we have in Niger state? What is the essence of the police command? And I said it and I'm repeating myself and I repeat myself that the location and hideout of all these criminals are known. And all these bandits, their commanders are known. Their relatives are known. Their locations is known. It's not, they are not in the hands of us. Have you, that's a quick one. A quick one, yeah, who's that gets a very quick one. The Commissioner Police in Niger state, Balakourias, is saying that the rural dwellers and those affected should not hesitate to report to the nearest security outfits. Any person or group of people who they may know may have a link with this. So have you reported, gone to the discourage agencies, even if the DSS has to say I have information? Very quickly, please. I think the order of who's in this and on this, not only to Niger state governor, even to the DSS, the IGP, the DGNIA, I have met them one-on-one. Let me tell you, I'm not just telling the story. We have to let you know. I have met them one-on-one. So being part of the show. I go to Iboard. And I have mentioned- Yeah, who's that gets, so. I'm really sorry we have to let you go. I'm really sorry we have to let you go. We know where they are. The Councilors know where they are. Thank you, yeah, who's that gets. So we have to go. Thank you very much. So you said you've done that already and I want to appreciate your time this morning on the program. Thank you, Edwina, good to have you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. And all the best in Abuja. Mercy is quite a passionate response from him. I mean, people are suffering over that part in that part of the country and they are displaced in Niger State. People can't stay in their communities, in their homes, in their villages. It's really, really sad indeed. Well, we just bring you this latest report. There's a letter that is making the rounds. It's no longer a secret what you have. The letter saying notice, notice, notice. And this is last warning. It talks about saying that we, the unknown gunmen has concluded that from now on henceforth, there will be no residing of the national end term on the national pledge in any school and in any gathering. That's the letter there, but I'm not sure if you can actually see that. But we do have a resident from Emo State, if I'm not mistaken. Kelechi, who will be speaking from us right away from Oweri. Kelechi, it's good to have you join us this morning. Can you quickly tell us about this letter and what does the letter say? Okay, good morning. We hope that we can make sure that that's correct. And so, let's hope that we can make sure that we can make sure that this letter is safe. That's about to become aware of it. And we must make sure that it's compliant with the letter. So, what we're trying to do is ask an office and start to round the day that 15 is in, for it out, 15 is in that case, that 15 is out, about what we're doing, our morning, the day that we're talking about. Kalechi, can you hear us please? Unfortunately, we have been able to have a smooth connection with Kalechi, but as soon as we have all of the details, and of course we would have that reconnection, but that's the much that we can do at this point in time. We hope that everything would actually be all together, everything would be one. We constantly have faith in the entity called Nigeria, and we all have a responsibility to play. Well, that's the much that we can take if you missed out on any part of the conversation. It's alright to follow the conversation on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagrams at Plus TV Africa. And Plus TV Africa Lifestyle, subscribe to our YouTube channel. I am Messi Boko. Thanks for watching. And I'm Kofi Bartelsa. We'll be back tomorrow right here. Keep watching Plus TV Africa.