 Hi. Oh, I'm just just getting ready here, everyone. Hello. I Didn't see you there. Oh, hi. Oh, hi Veronica had a lovely birthday weekend. We're talking about it earlier. Mm-hmm If you want to know everything Veronica did on her birthday weekend subscribe to our patreon Yeah, yeah, sure you betcha. How's everything else Veronica? Fine All right Sure, have you read over your no Hard to pronounce names. Nope They didn't give you DD Xu Xing. Thank you Do you want to read it? I don't think you have anything that bad. No. Oh I did give you Kong's burger groupin I'll say just like that Kong's bird groupin Do do do do you Have a nice day. Ooh Delaware governor signs blockchain legislation into law Should do everything in the breathy voice Okay That's actually clipping the way That is the definition of clipping right there Why is your whispering clipping that is the weirdest thing ever Wind After weeks of anticipation Delaware governor John C. Carney Jr Signed a bill making it explicitly legal for entities to use blockchain for stock trading and record keeping His last name is Carney. Let's just not pick on someone for a last name Chang Uh-huh and Sheep Belmont is not a vampire hunter. I do not merit anything and your name's Take yourself we're gonna throw it down the stairs Whatever say that to you that's that's like one of those I Shouldn't see those common ethnic jokes that you get where I get I would go with more like add an e and it's change That's what they had at the at the one CES or not CES e3 2005 the GameStop booth was right next to the Sony one and they had a they had their They're shown off the PSP and the whole thing was changed, but they made the e Backwards so it just looked like Chang It's like way they're celebrating me Give me give me give me. All right. Well, let's just go ahead and get started then Okay Control are you ready miss Belmont? Mm-hmm Here we go Daily Tech news show is powered by you to find out more head to Daily Tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Monday July 24th 2017. I'm Tom married Veronica Belmont alongside. How is it going miss Belmont good? I'm older now. Oh Congratulations on making it on another trip around the Sun. Thank you You're still younger than me though, right you didn't pass me forever more Forever more and the Raven says for maybe I'll find something in the DNA app store to change that Yeah, no, if that sounds like oh, what is it really like it's literally well Okay, if you're thinking you can buy people's DNA. It's not that but it is an app store for ways to interpret your DNA Which I I find fascinating. We're gonna talk about that in a little bit. Let's start with a few tech things you should know Ride hailing company grab has received two billion dollars in financing from DD Xu Xing and soft bank Now if you want to keep this straight Follow me closely DD Xu Xing operates a ride hailing service of its own in China grab Operates mostly in Southeast Asia Grab is competing in a lot of those markets with uber But uber is no longer competing with DD Xu Xing because it sold its Chinese operations to DD Xu Xing last year I'm confused. So basically Grab is getting money to fight uber outside of China Okay Perfect Sundar Pichai has been appointed to the board of directors of alphabet He's the board's 13th member and remain CEO of alphabet company Google Diane Gree head of Google Cloud was a board member before joining Google and is the only other alphabet board member from Google I Mean if I were gonna be game of thronesy about this I'd say this was positioning Sundar to be moved out of the CEO position potentially Because you give somebody a board seat to thank them for their service, but I probably doesn't mean that to be honest Well, maybe I'm not sure who would be next in line Diane green Green sorry it was written green. I wrecked her name my apologies Miss green for casting aspersions on your name and also misspelling it Yes, Jung executive vice president and head of Samsung's chip foundry division told Reuters Samsung wants 25% market share in chip contract manufacturing within five years Samsung split its contract chip Manufacturing away from the rest of its semiconductor business in May So Samsung makes its own like Exynos chips. That's now separate from Samsung just saying we're a foundry Who wants to rent us and we'll build chips to your design for instance Apple We would like to get your business back for that. So they're going head-to-head with TSMC All right as part of a review of Amazon's proposed purchase of Whole Foods The U. S. Federal Trade Commission is looking into Amazon's practice of advertising discounts Amazon is accused of advertising discounts from prices higher than what Amazon previously sold the product for which could constitute deceptive pricing That's I mean Not not unusual that the FTC is looking into Amazon Whole Foods for sure It it's Amazon denies that this is a problem They say we compare it to our own but other retail prices and that's fair So the interesting to see where that goes Here's some more top stories Microsoft announced it will add an AI chip to the next version of its hollow lens Augmented reality headset or as they call it mixed reality. I call it mixed-up reality No, I don't the AI coprocessor would mean faster processing times and more mobility since data wouldn't have to go to the internet You wouldn't have to go up to the cloud every time you want to process something that would happen on the headset Microsoft is designing this chip itself and Samsung's over there going we'll build it for you We can do that actually Samsung mostly does memory, but I'm sure they wouldn't mind talking to Microsoft about it Pretty cool though because it could mean less need to have the hollow lens connected By wires or wireless And you'd be able to play offline more often stuff like that Did you talk about that article that was floating around about the overuse of the term AI? No, I haven't seen that But but AI is definitely getting thrown around a lot right now. Yeah in places. It probably doesn't belong Just gonna put that out there. Yeah, I don't know that this is an example of that or not I don't know enough me processor, but I can imagine it either way I can imagine it being a legitimate like machine learning processor right on there Sure, I could also imagine it not really doing AI stuff so yeah Microsoft has listed the program paint as deprecated in the fall creators update of Windows 10 Deprecated software is no longer developed or maintained a newer version called paint 3d was released last year And will become the only supported version of paint in Windows Or went out for a pain survived by its ancestors by its descendant to paint 3d I mean first of all deprecated doesn't mean removed So paint will still be there for a while outlook express for instance survived a long time I think it was just removed in the last update Or maybe it's being removed in this update But it you know it just didn't get developed and that's what's happening to paint paint will still be there It just won't be developed. So well, it will start to age She'll start to look weird. I don't even know how to take screen grabs on Windows without paint Like I don't even know you can just do print screen. Yeah, but doesn't that just always opened in paint for me I don't know you could you could still get the screen capture without having it auto open in paint And you could have it auto open and paint 3d Tom, you're just confusing me but paint 3d is going to be the thing that you use for this stuff It's just kind of you know, this has been there since Microsoft Windows 1.0. I know I miss reversing still So I'm certainly not gonna let go paint very easily No one else remembers no reversing the Financial Times reports China's bingo box has more than 12 Unmanned convenience stores in operation with almost 200 more planned by the end of August customers unlock the door with an app and Then scan items for payment theft is deterred by video monitoring and China's policy of real-name registration Arrivals store called f5 future store has six outlets in China So while Amazon and Alibaba are playing around with these super fancy versions where you just walk in and walk out with your stuff And they scan you the whole time these smaller companies are making a lot of headway with a slightly simpler concept That's so cool. Man. I love stuff like that I really want this to come to the United States Although I feel like it's going to be abused horribly because people don't care if they're on video. They don't care They don't give a crap. They don't care. That might be true. And the other thing is the neighborhoods They always put these in low crime neighborhoods They've described it as we don't put them where there are hooligans I don't know if that's a translation from the Chinese or not, but it's pretty hilarious But yeah, it depends on where you put them to whether this kind of thing can work I do like the idea of somebody trying something a little simpler than what Amazon's trying Amazon and Baidu in their various countries Are basically trying to come up with a thing where doesn't you wouldn't need video? It would just track you the moment you win in and know like we know who you are and we're just gonna charge you like There's nothing you can do if you walk out of our store with the thing We will charge you which is a little more theft proof But also if they don't come to the United States and keep the name bingo box and f5 future store I'm gonna be very upset. I know Is somebody else have that trade name? I don't know let's make it happen The Wall Street Journal reports that Yara International and Konzberg Rupen have developed a 100 container Automated ship that will eventually have no crew their Norwegian built Yara, Birkeland is set to be launched Sometime in 2018 with GPS radar cameras and sensors It would be launched with a crew move to remote operation in 2019 and become fully autonomous in 2020 Sully sentient With a high The ship costs around 25 million about three times as much as a traditional cargo ship and this is super interesting because the cargo shipping Industry is undergoing major issues right now like a lot of the big shipping companies are Going bankrupt having trouble. They basically like they built these giant super cargo ships and those have like Not done very well. It's a really I mean this could maybe be the shake-up that helps the industry this kind of thing Where they cut down operations? They spend more money on the front end But they cut down operations on on people and by kind of streamlining the rest of the process through automation So, I mean it sucks for the people who work on the ships But at the same time I might keep these industries open, you know For the for the future. Yeah, an increased capacity even though this ship costs around 25 million It's Expected to pay for itself in the savings of operation over the course of its lifetime So so it's 25 million not seem like that much money for an Cargo ship, right? I mean so that would imply that a normal cargo ship costs about 8 million, but that's a lot That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money for me I'm not gonna be build my ship. Yeah And yeah, and anytime we have this job this this kind of story and and the one before us too with the convenience store It's it's eliminating a type of job and and so keep in mind that there isn't just one type of job Or there is not a limited time amount of jobs and when we eliminate one That's that's work that will never be replaced by another type of job These types of things generally cause companies to say we will now be able to hire new types of jobs That we couldn't afford to before because we were spending all our money staffing the cargo ships but There is also the problem of people who are like but all I know is how to operate a ship And if I can't operate the ship and you didn't hire me for logistics on shore I need help transitioning so It's a tricky subject because it's not as simple as like this just eliminated jobs and now fewer people will be able to work That's not how it works, but it also doesn't mean there won't be some pain in the transitions. There always is I just want to add my two cents. I think there's also So part of the money thing with shipping is there was a glut of shipbuilding back when everyone was Training and they didn't think there would be an end to it. The other thing there wasn't enough crews To man all the ships to 100 so this could be a good way because then you can more effectively allocate resources and still be Flexible to demands right because the shipping route will always won't be from like the indian ocean to the pacific Or from the india ocean to the atlantic Yeah, yeah, and so you can you could effectively say well, you know what markets changed I got a ship that can sail itself for the most part Maybe just a handful of crew to make sure it doesn't crash into an iceberg Um, and you can more effectively figure out where you can start putting your money instead of having to have like Ships of a certain size of a certain capacity Really only make money when they're full if you're half capacity Even if you're running from both sides of the pacific or the atlantic You might be losing money because you're not running your full capacity. So this could help effectively allocate all those Issues or not. Cool. We'll see. Thanks, roger. Yeah. Thank you roger. That's good insight Uh, and if you if you like this sort of thing, uh, big gym in our chat room and in our audience operates the trade nerd Dot com and does the tech in trade podcast you can find out all kinds of cool stuff about how this affects shipping and logistics Finally at a party on august 1st, wisconsin's three square market will offer its employees the opportunity to have an NFC chip implanted between their thumb and forefinger About 50 employees are expected to volunteer for the implants Employees with the chips will be able to log into their computers use copy machines open doors and buy snacks Three square market aka 3 2 m is a vending kiosk company. So this just kind of goes right along with their business It's a little bit of a press grab. They're not the first company to do this There's a few european companies who have done this sort of thing Uh, it's it's a biohacking movement that's happening that that encourages this I have been asking for this forever Forever you're like, well, how could I work for three square markets? So I can get this chip in my thumb and thumb and forefinger though like that's kind of a soft part That's like, yeah, I cut myself there once I already had to have stitches there once so maybe well there You've already got some room pop those back open gross But seriously like there is a privacy concern with this, right? Like as much as it would be great to just be like, hey, I can just wave my hand at stuff and pay for it and unlock stuff You also need to be able to Not do that and not have anyone scan that chip when it's not authorized And one of the easiest ways to do that right now is put your phone away or take off the ring or whatever it is You can't really do that if it's implanted in your hand. No, that's very true And this is going to be a problem that only gets worse with age Um, we're going to see it's going to become a lot more common than we're going to start the same way We're seeing with the internet of things the kind of security vulnerabilities that become apparent over time with having these kinds of devices In your home with their varying levels of security You know nfc is not completely secure bluetooth is not completely secure There's there's going to be problems with with this kind of technology Especially when it becomes a permanent fixture in your body. Yeah for a semi-permanent picture The the the security stuff can be mitigated I would Always hesitate to say any kind of security problem could be fixed because it's an ongoing battle But you know things like what IBM's experimenting with where you can secure an entire enterprise and just encrypt everything I mean The potential is there to make those sorts of things a lot more secure than they are right now But even if you fix that you can't fix the fact that it's in your body And you know, we've all seen the movies where you have to dig out the chip It's not pleasant That's what you want to have to do. So I don't know what you do about that I also fully admit right now that for years scott johnson and i particularly have been talking about someday Kids are going to be talking about you get the implant. Come on grandpa, and we're going to resist and this Could be it Could be that thing where I'm like I don't know if I want that Yeah Folks if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes You can keep up to date on all the stuff You know, we had stories in there like nes Classic or the s nes classic accidentally going on sale on walmart friday and the fallout from that Go subscribe at daily tech headlines.com or you can get it as a flash briefing on the amazon echo Or in the anchor app, which you can get in the app store or at anchor dot f m Okay A startup called helix Is launching a website it's up right now where you can go helix dot com slash shop and Buy apps for mobile or desktop To explore your genome Now helix charges you 80 bucks for a partial sequencing of your genome So you just have to do that once and then after you do that you can choose from a bunch of different apps They're priced at various amounts in addition to your 80 bucks Areas like ancestry health fitness etc about a dozen companies have apps in the dna app store And there's some interesting stuff in there, but veronica. I know both you and I have done 23 and me This is different than that 23 and me and ancestry dna do genotyping But helix is doing a partial sequence including the exo which are the expressed parts of your gene that make proteins Yes, that was exactly what i was just going to say I mean to steal your words, but so so you've you've does this sound good to you? Like it's not sequencing the entire genome. That's still more expensive Yeah, I mean it does sound very cool. I like the idea I've been happy throughout the years of my my continually upgraded information that I receive From 23 and me as their technology gets better and they run new research And they typically start to learn a lot more about the genotyping that they've done with with your spit Over time. Uh, this is cool. But at the same time, I feel like it's a little more Hmm, how do I say like trendy in a way? Like I almost feel like some of these apps are kind of jokey Almost like the wine one. There's one called venome That's supposed to be able to tell you what kinds of wine you'll like based on Based on your genome and that seems a little bit like I don't know about that one yet wine explorer is what it's called And you're supposed to find hard to find cured in wines uniquely tailored to your taste preferences and scientifically selected based on your DNA Like I just want to know if I'm like predisposed to certain types of cancer I don't really need to know like what kind of wine. Maybe I'll like better. I know what kind of wine I like it's most wines Okay, I I think I think you're right that there's some trendy stuff You know like the one that prints certain parts of your unique DNA sequence onto a scarf Um, I'm sure a lot of you will think that's cool. I got a scarf with some DNA once from rogue tess. It's awesome Um, that is very trendy and and a little bit, you know on the whimsical side. I get that All of these give you the science behind them Now there's not a lot of science behind the scarf other than like this is the sequence that's unique to in almost I have a QR code based on my on my DNA Yeah, the the wine one does base itself on science And I'll give helix credit for for having a section called the science behind it on each one of these telling you You know, especially the medical ones like here's what you actually will find out and here's what you won't Uh, there there's a lot of worry about whether Companies will be responsible with this sort of thing because it's easy to over promise And scare people with the medical stuff But getting back to the wine one there there is science behind that, you know, you can tell Whether people are more likely to taste certain bitter-thick compounds or yeah, but that's that's But this is the thing that drives me nuts because I'm a I'm a bitter taster for example But I like how bitter tastes so they're making assumptions on your personal taste. It's not what you're making Maybe they say oh bitter tasters should get more bitter wine and then you'll be like, oh, this actually really works That's the part that that is Less clear to me. It's like, okay. There's science that tells you how people taste How you apply that to picking a wine is the part where I'm not sure if that works or not Yeah, I guess it just seems a little like I don't know Pseudo sciencey to me a little bit which I I understand that there's science behind it It's half science to me, right? It's like, oh, you've got science. There's a real part of this that's science There's another part of it that I don't know is science And I don't I don't know that I but there's other things that I can do that probably, you know I mean, there's a lot more information here By there's genetic screening. Yeah Yeah, there's there's a lot of cool stuff that that they can do so I think I'm I'm I'm moderately excited for the technology I like that you can choose which kinds of things that you you can get the apps for but at the same time I'm like with 23 and me I paid a lot more upfront perhaps But I'm gonna keep getting stuff for free for like many many years. I don't have to pick and choose I don't have to be selective. It just gives me all the information as it becomes available It is a little android versus ios Right like like uh helix is giving you control They're saying hey, we're just going to charge you a lot less 80 bucks rather than around 200 bucks We're also going to give you more information because we're partially sequencing. We're not just doing genotype But you have to pay for the parts that you want So you have control over what parts you get whereas 23 and me it's you pay more upfront But then from then on you just get everything we can and we don't have as much information So we won't necessarily give you everything that helix could give you But you won't have to think about it. You'll you'll just get it So I I think it's an interesting Development not even just from the helix versus 23 and me standpoint But from the standpoint of these things are getting cheaper and cheaper and cheaper. Yeah Yeah, and and the idea of making it a platform that says look We're just the company you only have to trust us with your dna Like we're the company that you put your dna and then we empower these other companies to make use of it And you decide which ones of those companies you want to share your information with or not I do this does make me want to go the route of trying to get my entire genome sequenced by using something like Veritas genetics where you get the whole genome for a thousand bucks That's a lot of money a lot of money right now and a lot of money coming down. Yeah, so maybe we'll wait a few years Because why don't I learn valuable stuff that could make me live longer now if I knew but it was if you only knew this in 2017 Veronica, we could have saved you but now you'll only live a normal lifespan instead of thousands of years Uh, yeah, that is my personal fear that I will be the last person to die Like they will they will be like, oh tomorrow. We're pretty sure we're discovering the solution to immortality. Sorry, ma'am Oh, yeah, yeah, totally totally just get your brain frozen Problem solved. I don't think that really talk about I mean, I'll trust the wine The wine has the brain freezing. The cryogenics. Yeah Uh, I I think this is incredibly fascinating and I think it's an area to watch. We're going to see more companies Turning sequencing your DNA into a commodity and that thousand dollars is going to come down And once you can sequence someone's entire DNA Uh, there there are limits to what you can do with it But you can do a lot more and this sort of platform is really interesting to keep an eye on these apps So just real fast are not cheap like the explorogen the one that's sleep patterns Whether you're a morning person or night owl 25 dollars wine explorer is 30 dollars In in in in sito may I guess in sit home I would get because genome. I guess yeah, I guess it shows you how what percentage of neanderthal DNA you have So 30 dollars. Yeah, and I already get that from 23 and me. So I wouldn't pay for that one, right But maybe if I didn't have 23 and me, I might be into it 30 dollars seems high for that Some of these others are in the hundreds of dollars So yeah, you can end up spending a lot more than you would on 23 and me But that's the app store model, right? It's like we'll get you it's the free It's not freemium because you're paying 80 dollars to get sequenced But give you a low price on the sequencing and then get you in the door And get you to pay for other things There there are serious apps in here too. Mayo Clinic and Mount Sinai Health are working on apps There's a diabetes test a cholesterol test There's even one that that fascinated me called meal planner Where they give you a 12 week program of meals They think are nutritionally suited to you and that you might like that one's 120 dollars. Oh, it's too much money Fill out a survey Just like fill out a google form and say what you like and then have someone But this one will be able to tell things about like what kind of vitamins your body is likely to process better I mean I get again. There's some science behind which things make me gassy Yeah, maybe would that be worth 130 dollars? That might be worth. I already know it's broccoli Well, that's the thing a lot of this stuff you could deduce on your own through cauliflower experience, but Real quickly before we do move off of this I want to point out that helix is partly funded by Illumina Which is the leading manufacturer of ultra-fast DNA sequencing machine So the more people they can get to use helix the more of those machines helix will need so There's a vested interest there And the other thing is if you're still confused like wait, what's a genotype versus the partial sequencing? I mean, this isn't a biotech show So I don't want to go too far into it But I had it explained to me really well once and I thought this worked for me Veronica. You tell me if this works for you Let's say there's a bunch of lights coming from across the street And you're trying to figure out where the lights are coming from Genotyping would be just looking across the street from where you are and pointing and going Well, the light seems to be coming from over there on the left and over there on the right Right, and so you've got some information and you can do what you want with that Sequencing would be walking over to the other side of the street And finding a bank of lights and saying ah the third one from the from the right is on is flashing on And then complete sequencing would be walking all the way down the street and finding all the lights That's a weird. I don't really understand that example, but okay, it's not a real life example because flashing lights across the street from us But I get I get what they're after which is like you can you can genotyping is saying There's a variable that we can see but we're not actually going in and finding the act You know, we're like not finding every bit and with sequencing. They're going in and finding every bit. Okay Cool, that's cool. I am into it. I want to do that. I just don't want to pay $35 for a nap Well, yeah Maybe the prices will come down if more people do Yeah, um, anyway poodle puncher does point out that at christmas you will often have lights flashing across the street. So there you go Thanks, everybody who participates in our subreddit You can submit stories of vote on them at daily tech news show reddit.com and facebook.com slash daily tech news show Time to check in with chris christensen find out what's going on in the world of travel This is chris christensen from amateur traveler with another tech in travel minute One piece of good news and one piece of science fiction The piece of good news is the laptop ban. We've talked about a couple times on this segment is done The trump administration says that there's no need for it anymore because they've gotten what they wanted in terms of additional security Whether that's the reason or not it's done and i'm glad to see it go In terms of sci-fi Tom you were talking recently on the show about the hyperloop There has been a suggestion made in fact that has won a design award for hotels about a hotel That would travel around the country as a car in the hyperloop kind of like the old railroad cars except a whole lot faster An interesting idea if we get a hyperloop, maybe we'll also get really fast hotels I'm chris christensen from amateur traveler So the idea of the sleeper car was it took you a long time to get somewhere. So you needed to sleep But I guess the idea of the sleeper hyperloop car would be like it's just cool to like go to sleep in san francisco and wake up in argentina or something I know where would you where would you even be able to sleep for eight hours that you wouldn't already be at your destination? I know right. I get I mean, I guess the idea would be maybe it's just constantly looping You know, I do like cruise ship. Yeah, maybe I do want to try that that um That bus this is a different story that bus that goes from san francisco to la I think it's called coach. Maybe your cabin And it's just like a it's like a red-eye bus, but it's like decked out really nice like a sleeper car and a train And it's supposed to be not that expensive either like less than a flight In the yeah, the idea is that you take the time that you would normally be sleeping Right and they just drive you from one city to the other and then you wake up the next morning And you're there because they've given you and they're not packing you into small greyhound seats They're giving you a nice big a lay down thing. Yeah. Yeah, huh. Yeah, I think I've heard about that I can't remember which one is what it's called. I think it's called cabin. Okay. Anyway similar idea Interesting. Well, maybe chris will cover that as well You can go check out what chris christensen has to say about travel at the amateur traveler dot com. I'm sorry amateur traveler dot com The website amateur traveler dot com and send your picks to us folks feedback at daily tech news show dot com Messages of the day. I will read the first one. Mike and sunny kansas city says On friday shannon mentioned the philips hue first gen was not supported with the amazon echo This reminded me about home dash assistant dot i o Home assistant is an open source project that allows you to take control of your internet of things platforms and essentially bridges the apis I imagine with a little bit of code you could easily set up an echo to interact with the first gen hue It's built on python and easily runs on a raspberry pi for any listener interested in knowing how to get started ben from the youtube channel bra Automation bruh has great tutorials. Uh, you can find home assistant at home dash assistant dot i o And ben's tutorials at bruh a u t o m a t i o n Dot com bruh on a bit not too different from like ift For example Yeah, it's got kind of the same idea except it's open source instead of run By an independent company. Thank you, mike. Would you mind reading the next one? Sure, uh detain us patient anthony from hot and humid long island long island says, uh, just got this app on the apple store It has an interactive map that will show you the eclipse path if you put it in your location It will show you the times of the event and how much the sun will be eclipsed I'm still poking around the app, but so far. I love it. It is called eclipse safari by simulation curriculum corporation Yeah, so if you're getting excited about the eclipse coming up in august Uh, you can go check that out and finally dwayne in germany reporting in on an enterprise installation of windows 10 Said what a day I had today swapping out pcs that are windows 10 ready Spent the day migrating data onto windows 10 pcs in my vault. The windows 10 migration is going Really fast happening a lot faster than the win seven migration from vista and a whole lot easier For instance outlook was a breeze unlike with windows 7. It was basically a one button setup procedure after clicking on the icon Amazing edge has some issues with compatibility with some of our military sites and programs I knew this would be an issue. So ie is front and center on the task bar. It works for standard websites Surprisingly, the store is accessible, but I don't know what the limitations are as of yet Cortana is also available for pc and web search, but it requires a login for all the other features I thought about logging in with my microsoft id, but then I came to my senses They track everything on military pcs tomorrow. I'm going to check it out a bit more But man, this transition is really smooth and fast and dwayne works for the air force If you're wondering it does not work for microsoft I just thought it was great to finally get an email where someone's like Did a thing and it worked out really well instead of the horror stories that that we often get instead blazing fast Nice, so thank you dwayne and thank you veronica belmont. What do you got going on to tell folks about? Oh episode Three Of irl is out today More security stuff. We're doing the first three episodes. We're kind of connected about their various Topics. This is called hack jobs. 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I took it this morning myself Our email address is feedback at daily tech news show.com We're live Monday through Friday 4 30 p.m. Eastern 20 30 utc at alpha geek radio.com and diamond club.tv And our website is daily tech news show.com back tomorrow with jason howl as our guest talk to you then Show is part of the frog pants network get more at frog pants.com I hope you have enjoyed this program dna dna You seem less enthusiastic about the dna store than I thought you would be Oh Yes, you did seem surprised when I took a more You know cynical route. I was confusing your enthusiasm for being chipped Yeah, with your general enthusiasm for dna. That's possible Anywho anyway, what should we call this show? We should call it finished Yes, one of these days that will actually be the title of the show Like watching paint die Like watching paint die. I don't get it Wait a minute, whatever floats your bot. This isn't that's what is it dark redeemer just Baking up things whatever floats your bot would be the cargo ship. Okay. That's that one makes sense Like watching paint die. It's like a riddle. Oh like microsoft paint I was wondering if he meant to spell die d y e. Yeah, that's funny. Yes Now that I understand that it's funny Uh self self driving boaty mcboatface. Yeah, all right. Sure. Don't rock the bot. Don't rock the boat face was already Autonomous by the way So that's redundant Well, maybe all self-driving ships should start with the name mcboat Body mcboatface. Body mcboatface was a was an unmanned vehicle So just saying Forever more Actually, it might not be self-driving. It might be human driven just remotely Remotely piloted vehicle. Yeah stage two Uh, forever more free shops Who looking free shops? No You don't like that one No, uh bingo is its name of samsung puts its chips on the table Ah That's funny. I am the capped all now Captain ai ai and Uh self-driving pirate ships If you track it better to put a chip on it Tom tells us how people taste Paint joins clippy paint is now dry Shop till you bought maybe science We run a bite ship that Science tomation science tomation Biance come on grandpa time to get shipped We're putting your neck like the dog broccoli makes me gassy Fast women in fast hotels Rip pain is ai the new oh i sos shipping jobs sailing away Oh, yeah Who's the ro who's the robo captain now? Getting to know yourself isn't cheap pience instead of science It's have science to me wine apps. I don't need no stinkin wine apps Uh daily biotech news show nippy at the helix of 23 and me Hyperloop sleeper car chain charges by the hour What do you think v Um Well now I kind of like like watching paint die. Yeah now that we understand it. Yeah It's not our you know main subject, but no, but that's okay I'm writing the descriptions to be a little more inclusive It was always a it was a bigger problem when the description would only talk about one thing and the title said something else, but I see I even put microsoft paint in the description. So that would That would work Do you have any other uh Any other suggestions roger before we decide for sure? Uh head over helix No Head for the helix Head over helix a double helix helix go to the helix copter Nope. Nope. Nope. Nothing. Nope. I'm not I'm hearing no reactions No No, I have to put roger in the id3 tags today Oh, yes, he talked because you talked Oh, I normally just put you in regardless who talks Even if you're not here Oh, I shouldn't do that. I shouldn't put me in when i'm not here That's false. We'll get the f tc on us Why is tom barron on in this episode? Why advertising a discount? Why why why Why You're just done with it all aren't you veronica? What do you mean app store? Call me when it's real So this is called cabin This is a sleepaway bus called cabin. I did good option Founded in 2016 cabin formerly known as sleep bus Is launching a charter bus service between la and sf that allows passengers to fall asleep in one city and wake up in the next For a hundred and fifteen dollars one way Okay, it's not cheap It's around the same as airfare Yeah, and 23 other people on board Like oh No, so the the only way it could be considered valuable is if the bus drops you in front of where you need to be Like you know what I mean? It's not dropping you off at a bus terminal That that is the only way it could be considered valuable No, i'm Okay, let me rephrase that the only way I would consider it valuable For that for that money is if it drops you in front of where you need to be Yeah, I would say they they launched a pilot last year for 48 dollars a ride. That's what you were probably seeing Because 48 suddenly it's like oh, yeah Yeah, but that's just a pilot. You need the bus to go with it Ah, roger's a dad Get it I mean there's a value To not having to deal with the airport, right? Being able to just like not waste time productive time. It's time. You'd be asleep anyway, you know relatively speaking So to me it would be like how how sure am I that i'm gonna sleep? Yeah, I mean I'd have to take a pill for sure I could only sleep sleep. This is the thing the only time it's restful sleep Is if you're in a at least semi or fully reclined mode. It's really hard to sleep if you're sitting I always have a harder time sleeping in like hotels the first night After I've been there a night then it's fine So what you're saying is you need to do one run in the bus and then No Yeah, I have to do it three nights in a row Ride cabin dot com I want to see do they have pictures on there? Yeah, well, I did it. I did it. Uh, I found a business insider article about it. Okay Hey, wouldn't it be cool is if you could kind of do that same service but Tie it with like a ride-sharing Carpooling service they're like about the size of a capsule hotel They say that you're the the review says that the person who tested it out was five four and could not sit up In the cabin which is kind of understandable. Yeah, no, they're definitely like just room for you to lay down Also, they're only a curtain You know that could be a safety thing And there's like a also. Yeah, that makes me creeped out like I'd be worried about someone like Trying to get into my cabin Luckily, it's so crap they won't fit. Yeah, maybe intellectually. I know it's not likely but just that that Plus noise and there's like, yeah, there's like a there's like a hangout area And I like maybe eventually we'll charge more, you know, so this is for you away from like the Yeah, I'd like if they stay up all night talking, I'm gonna get really mad Really really mad So Yeah, not probably why don't you fall us? Hmm Interesting. So how many capsules can fit on the bus? Just like it's like 36 or something. Yeah What are the safety features on board? Hmm the bus has wheels and they turn Can I share a sleeping cabin with another person? No No, they're not big enough. No, you wouldn't want that. I don't think how many bathrooms on board one Mostly if at night It's probably not gonna get used that much. I don't know. It just looks a little too summer camp I don't remember sleeping too well at camp I don't think anyone did it because it's camp and it's creepy. I I didn't I couldn't sleep In college, I couldn't sleep if my dorm roommate was home and had the light on Yeah, I couldn't sleep because my roommate would bring strange men at back the house around 1 to 2 a.m And then have an argument in front of my room. That's why I couldn't sleep. Yeah the noise Sorry You seem you seem to still have the issues with that roommate. It's like really I think I understand It's like two a.m. Why are you having it? Are you now? And where is that roommate now? I have no idea didn't keep touch, huh? Yeah All right friends all right Well, you should you should take a cabin trip down to la to visit us And then report what it was like. Maybe Maybe All right Alrighty Bye. Have a good day. Bye. Okay. Bye Check your phone for cute baby pics from Roger Did I do oh crap? Well It's not the end of the world Just uploaded the wrong Oh, you uploaded the wrong video. Oh, no, no I want the I think I have the wrong id three tags Oh, that's what happened. Okay It's not I just put the wrong id three tag in there we go All right. Well, I haven't put it anywhere yet. So it's it's not a problem So I just need to re upload Be up be up. I need to re up There we go. Now we got the right one check news Need to copy the description again And yeah, because I uploaded it and then SoundCloud The link in SoundCloud said The Friday title and I'm like wait a minute. Did I approve Fridays by accident? But no I just didn't properly update the id three tag Um, Ethan Kane I for when I'm on When I'm on os mac os I use id three editor to edit the id three tags I don't remember the name of the thing I use on windows Interesting sleeper bus Also known in the osa as an entertainer coach An entertainer coach, I've never heard it call that it just sounds like a completely different service on the bus It's like karaoke and like video games karaoke video game re uploading Man Sorry wordpress does this weird thing I always use wordpress in html mode in text mode. I never use visual mode But if someone ever goes in and looks at a post in visual mode wordpress Helpfully removes certain things from the html code. For instance, I'll have a href equals blank Around a link so that I can paste in the link later. Yeah, right? It's part of the template But if somebody goes in and looks at it in visual wordpress decides Oh, well that href doesn't point anywhere. We'll just take that out And it leaves the anchor tag in but it takes out the href I'm like, why don't you just leave the code just leave the code where it is stop Polish my code wordpress. What if I hit preview? Does that do the same thing? No, it's it's either visual or text. There's no preview preview doesn't impact that at all Because I usually just go to preview to copy the um No, I know what it is it's ethan canes going in and working on the show notes Which is awesome and it's great and he should do that and he should do it in visual Because it's easier for him to do it that way. I have no problem with that I have a problem with wordpress munging my code Munging munging. Yeah, stop munging You know the munging sounds like And it's not it's it's totally not a problem. It's just one of those minor annoyances By okay show me in the editor where it touched your code It was right here on this anchor href tag Right here Yeah It's all right I can type a couple of quotation marks again Not a problem Oh really ethan canes says it's the same copy paste process I thought there might be an advantage to using visual to copy paste like it preserve links or something for you It is so not his fault though The wordpress tool should not work like that But it does but it does I know what it's doing. It's trying to clean up code for people so that you have nice clean code and I admired that That goal I do Oh, I just saw this uh In the chat room from ken from chicago said to us Tom and roger that there's a new james bond movie coming in 20 link link Don't pass along things that you see in chat room unless someone includes a link Is that true? We don't know I mean, I actually trust ken from chicago pretty well, but still I please put links when there's when you say something is breaking news I don't see it I don't see it anymore That's why I didn't say anything about it because I was like I don't see them my feeds and then I I'll post it Ah deadlines a good good source for this stuff So it sources say or is it an announcement? Next to stoneman james bond film franchise now has a release date, but that's said To said today, but there's no other details So, yeah, so there's another film Yes, we don't know we can assume that it's probably not daniel craig because he's pretty much indicated he was done Oh daniel craig has one movie left on his deal is expected to return as 007 so never mind. I'm totally wrong about that I want him to fight his evil twin that looks exactly like him except mirror imaged So when they do the uh visual effects, so below his ear Okay Like watching paint die I have got the post made. I've got the thing published I'm even going to listen to it now just to be safe Listen to the podcast Why don't you listen to what the podcast? I did not listen to podcasts on my drive to san diego on saturday Because you were trying to figure out your way around traffic man listen exactly and I don't want to listen to words So I had music on the whole time because it was so trafficking Wouldn't it be great if the car just drove itself and you were just like yeah Right. I'm right the whole the whole self-driving car. I find very seductive Okay, it works. Yay All right, thanks everybody for watching hanging out. Have a good day. We'll talk to you tomorrow with jason howl. Bye