 Let's see all the breakfasts and plus CV Africa. We stay with the conversation. I mean looking at the APC and the fact that you have not in Gavin's or the APC saying we're going to shift powers to the southern parts of the country. Now be the coax of our conversation this morning We have a guest joining us. Open up on Katara. He's a public affairs analyst and a political affairs Commentator if you'd like to say open up boys. Good to have you join us this morning All right then northern governor's elected on the platform of the all-progressive Congress APC have insisted that they would have or back a southern Narrative measures a presidential candidate of the ruling party in the twenty-three general elections the chairman of the northern governor's Foreman governor of platoon state sign on la long state at this while briefing state house Correspondent in a border the governor's 13 of them made the opposition known following their meeting with president Muhammad the Buhari and the presidential dealer Of the federal capital territory now in the briefing Governor la long clarified that the leaked memo that went viral on Saturday Was true position of nothing governor's and they came to your official Officially to consult with the president according to the governor president Muhammad the Buhari is not anointed any of the 23 aspirant expected to participate in the party's primary as a flag bearer of the APC rather he explained that the President acts the governor's to have a meeting with a national working committee That's the NWC of the party to resolve the issue of consensus candidate through a democratic means You also have a prayer to this time where you you have our guests saying the spinotrins Powered by the national executive council to the national working committee to actually elect now governor la long stated that the decision of Governors to return power to the sound was to ensure equity peace unity in the country Okinawa on Qatar is with us this morning a public affairs analyst. It's good to have you join us Okinawa, do you see this becoming a reality with all that's going on with the APC right now What becoming a reality that you know power would be The nodding governor supporting a shift of power to the southern part of the country Not necessarily stating whether I should go to the south south or to the south east or to the south west Well, you have a company of voices Occasion by contending and competing interests they Not I'm going to have retreated on several occasions the palm of sheep to the south and that is in consideration of the Genius leadership of the encasement column and here that have not been so tracked I'm saying the interest of equity fairness and justice like la long state Power to see to the south So that there will be this sense of belonging this sense of oneness And but you have a conflicted person such as a damu who came who addressed in the end of you see of the APC and said to them that What was named now and we can express in a case the children was a mountain one by mr. President although mr. President has come out to control Now he has no perfect candidate. Oh, yeah, we are not a mountain I cannot we have no perfect candidate because on the sister station is that he has a perfect candidate But it was not going to disclose the identity of that candidate for the safety of that And as a human being of course you have a perfect candidate my candidate. I've always said it's good to be but definitely the candidate for The APC chairman In the city president Lauer and so he was more or less trying to fight. We are yet to Assert the veracity or put you promise of that day And I will be missing the president coming out But the end of you see the sweet response I've also said There was no decision like that by the end of you see and I will be opinion of just one man And that they stand there They are in sync with the position of the government that far to see to the to the south now the danger of the not retaining power It's quite it's quite obvious, you know, because Like I said, you have the higher quality of attrition about you apocalyptic dimension occasioned by the issue of Sacrifice issues of segregation Maginalization discrimination and what have you the PDP in Northam candidates It's not a standard one. You're a standard there The PDP could just use in the sense that they could argue That dinner time was the last PDP president It's from the south not the south south But what would be There's huge for the ATC down getting a lover because they sit impressively with a member of the ATC from the north and So it is only logical at this point in time and the interest in the interest of one unit is That how I should see to the south That is the only logical thing And that is what the modern System of safe 13 of them I've said message go to the south and I think it should actually go to the south If we want this country to remain at home because this has gone to further Training it is quite insidious It has gone to put that in the very existence of our nation Don't forget that Yes, you might have a standard get up from the not from the ATC You might think you have more But what of the domino effect? It might commence immediately One year after or two years after and to save up these ominous track the not on God knows I assist it on the southern president And I think that is the best thing to do because if you talk about it here is that you need a not on a To if you have to win at the quadruple you didn't not on a to be denied and the standard That argument suck out of a clip of this in a proper job, but you need a spread So it is how to say we are not going to support another even if you have Majority of the votes you and you don't have the spread you cannot be declared a winner So why yes, you talk of the Realism if not of the not but enough cannot be done You need the support of the staff to make to know one region No one's own is insignificant all we don't have any zone What does that mean that those I'm going to ensure that they work for the success to have a success of a certain candidate That is the meaning of So if you talk of the not some majority It does not even arrive because of God knows we'll give their votes to the staff And that you reduce the votes of the not on a anything both of a tickle For the issue of I think we start a candle. He has a cloud. He has a number He has this so if you don't give it to the not Then I think it will be I Because already I've said we want this out. I think it's not time. We won't Ensure that the spout and candidate in magic as the president My advice to those not on government a simple We will quickly take a track now, please stay with us. We will be with you shortly, let's quickly look at this track, we will be right back, stay with us. The interests of unity, the interests of peace and also justice, we recommended that the next president should come from the south. The governor of Kogi State chose to excuse himself from meeting with Mr. President because he believes that he does not agree with our position. There are 14 APC governors out of the 19 northern states, 13 of us are on one page on this subject and we all came to see the president, but the governor of Kogi State excused himself and it is within his democratic rights to excuse himself. We look at the totality of the issues in our country. We believe APC with 22 governors, APC with a president that has delivered a democratic dividend across the breast of this country, has everything going for it. What is the political brinksmanship that we need to bring so that every component of Nigeria will feel important, like I said there are northern candidates of northern extraction and we are not ignoring their capacity or their interests, but we felt that if political expedience can encourage a step that will bring more peace and resonate with everyone across Nigeria, we are bold enough to see it. Mr. Nkutara, you've listened to that. If you had what those members of the party said, what are your thoughts on that? What are my thoughts? I mean I just said, what they said really corroborated what I've been saying. In the interest of peace, unity, fairness and justice, that's what I'm going to say. And they only corroborated what I've just said, I mean there's nothing different. Especially when because you know our political engine is over gifted and the nation is headed slowly but slowly. Just on Sunday, we had what happened in the war. The nation is headed slowly but slowly to prevent the movement. And that is what is going on, who are those sentries? That is what they are trying to prevent. Because we are almost, almost, almost at war with ourselves. And this will put us first time. When a section of the society believes that they are not wanted, when they believe that you are not a hegemony. Of course, you know, I always say every spirit will go satirized. When a man is pushed to the wall, he bounces back with the double death. And you know what that means, when a man bounces back with the double death, he kills one and repossies. You know what that means? Of course, it is not going to be a child's thing. And that is what is going on, who are clever here and trying to avoid. And that is why we say, let it go to the south. There will be that wonder. There will be that unity. Between them, they have made a mistake. Like I said, it has an excuse. Jonathan was a southern president. Okay, fine. But let it be a fair contest between the north and the south. And let Nigeria decide. There has to be a choice. Are we going to go for a south or not? Are we going to go for a north or not? You know, you should have that choice. Like you know, you have that choice. Not, not, not. So you are between the devil and the deep blue. There is, there is. Open a book. There is a school of thought. Open a book. Yeah. There's a school of thought that, you know, the PDP haven't taken a, a northern candidate, someone from the northeast in the present of Ticoto Buacar, who is a, they were Turakia Damawa. Is it the Razira Damawa these days? And that someone from that part of the country, like Ahmed Lawan, is the right person to match him. Otherwise any candidate from the south would be toast, as far as Tiku is concerned. I have already done this analysis. I, I told you this, you know, even before now, unless you, for a point of emphasis, sorry, I've done that analysis. I said what? We are talking of unity. We are talking of oneness. We are talking of fairness, equity and justice. Now, even if you talk of majoritarianism, better for strength. If you like, have 21 billion votes from the north. If you don't have the strength, you cannot be declared a winner. That is one. And so even the south should deny you that strength. You can't admit. That's because there has to be a real mix. Number two. No single north another. I believe that the most popular north another today, that the sitting government is over. No single north another today can arrogant itself, the crowd go away hard in the north. Which was an advantage to him. In 2014-20 he said I'll give you my vote. That is number three. Number three. You are texting north and governments in support of a southern country. We are talking of governments. We are not talking of ministers. We are not talking of commissioners. We are not talking of advisors. We are not talking of legislators. We are talking of governments. And we are all seeds of the path of the government. The sitting north and governments are cloning for a southern country. In the interest of the country, the sitting north and governments. That's southern governments. The sitting north and governments will work as citizens for the measures of victory of the southern country. So what are we talking about? So what are we talking about? Should the northern governments of the all-progressive congress... ... ... ... Mr. Koteira, I don't know if you can hear me. I'm just trying to ask you another question. Should the southern and northern governments have gone a step further to say southeast, for instance, not just south? If we're talking about... If we're talking about... 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