 with Fury and Mola. That's the situation. That damn it. I thought it was another half an hour from now. I said, you're late. I really said the link and I was like, well, I got to wait for a half hour. Hey, you sent me the link to like go hop on a grenade. Like with this shit show of a stream, I come in. I'm echoing. His mic isn't working. He's fucking muted. Like, what the hell's going on? Whatever, this guy's got a yellow filter. He's got a jaundice over here. All right. I'm hacking away. Meanwhile, everything's falling apart. I'm on Rolling Stones trending for saying something I never goddamn said. You agreed. She said women ate Star Wars and he agreed. God, it's the worst thing ever. She said women ate Star Wars and I laughed. And I'm like, oh, my God. And instead of like, she's going off on a tangent, answering the question that I asked her about Charmine's stupid ass comment. And I'm not going to interrupt her. I'm just going to be like, well, whatever. I think my reaction says it all. But yeah, somehow that means I don't want women in Star Wars. So whatever, write an article about me. That's what journalism is now today. So, OK. Yeah, well, you come to learn pretty quickly whoever you're talking to. If you don't, in essay format, disagree with everything they say that you don't necessarily align with, then you agree with them completely. It has to be in essay format. It's actually fucking weird, dude. It's like, you got to have like a bull on PhD thesis. Well, actually, there are about 72.8% women that are actual Star Wars fans. It's like, no, just let her talk. Who cares? She just said she doesn't watch Star Wars because they know what it is. Well, and I mean, if you were to develop a perspective anyway, if you said to her like, actually, it was plenty of women that are interested, she might have said like, no, I understand that. What I mean is, you know, it could go different directions. You never actually know. Oh, she did. I've spoken to her several times afterwards. And she's like, she was hit up by NBC to comment. And she's like, this is such nonsense. What is this? She's like, did I do something wrong here? I'm like, well, you said women don't watch Star Wars and they're pretty upset about it. She's like, yeah, I see that. I guess I was wrong. Do they actually watch Star Wars? And I'm like, yeah. And she's like, oh, well, OK. Well, I guess I made a mistake then. Oh, no, easy. Well, you can't make mistakes on the internet, not allowed. It's true. And again, that's why you should just never ask a woman her opinion about anything. That's really the lesson learned from this entire thing theory, I feel. Oh, no, that's going to get clipped, too. Do your essay. Go tell Ryan he needs to be killed. No, Ryan, you can't say that. Like, as much as I would say, as men, humans are equal. We need to have equality. And like, everybody can. Now people are going to think I'm being sarcastic. You just can't win. Yeah, you know, I've never been sarcastic in my life. I don't really understand what that feels like. But it's just a weird time. It's just trying to take the heat off you, you know what I mean? But I appreciate it. I think you add more. He said he said that you should never ask a woman their opinion. And he agreed. Don't let's go next time. I had you had a bunch of fans that are lawyers reach out to me and they're like, you know, you could sue them. I'm like, what? No. What is that going to do? And they're just going to change the title. Who cares? Yeah, I don't know. I assume you weren't watching because you didn't even know you're supposed to fucking be here. But I was watching. It's the worst time because I was literally ready to go. I was just like, I have discord open for some reason. I think it's my fucking microphone on. I didn't see the notification. So I was just like, no, a theory will do me as soon as we're about to start. I was just waiting. It's the worst kind of late ever. I wasn't doing anything. I wasn't even like editing or fucking talking to anybody. Really, I was just sitting here. Fucking sitting there staring in the space. Yeah, I was like, I'm ready to fuck. I have nothing to do. I wish the stream was going already. So what I said before you got here was there's so much gasoline about that entire story right now of people saying for anyone that says women have never been interested in Star Wars. I've been a fan since 1977. I love it. It's like my mom got me into Star Wars. Yeah, it's like there's there. I don't think there's very many people that are actually saying that nobody that actually knows anything about Star Wars is saying that when it's actual Star Wars fan is saying that what is OK is to acknowledge that there might be certain demographics that are like Star Wars is more feelable, like there's more boys that have been interested in Star Wars historically. That doesn't mean that girls weren't. That doesn't mean that there's no women. It just means most of the audience was made up of boys made up of men. That's OK. It's OK for different audiences to be interested in different things. Right. In fact, that's exactly what Bob Iger said in his biography literally says that Star Wars when purchased from George, we recognize that it's always been a male dominant brand with about I think he said it was 94 percent men. So so shock me. Yeah, go ahead. Or it was maybe even 96. It's it's in the book. Like all you got to do is pull up the book and type it in. In Kindle. But. Yeah, I don't really see what the big problem is. It's just one person who's never seen Star Wars set like I don't like she made a mistake. Well, why are we is it true? No, it's not true. Of course, there are so many women who like Star Wars. I think we all know that. So what's what's no one's trying to silence? What it's just such a weird concept to me. I don't really understand it. But it's OK for things to be like more like by one gender than another. I made the thing with Barbie. Just what if if they had taken the Barbie movie and tried specifically to market that movie not to women, but to men make the entire thing market everything towards specifically men. I feel like a lot of people should rightly be upset about that. It's like I grew up with Barbies. I was a big fan of Barbie for a long time. I followed along this. I had all these things and now you're trying to inherently change the fan base for some reason. Like you'd have the same type of thing. I think that's probably way more female dominant than Star Wars is male dominant personally, just a guess. But it's nothing wrong with acknowledging that different brands appeal to different people. That's OK. Not everything has to be the exact 5050 split. And I think it's actually nice that Disney's appealed Star Wars to women as well, because when I have a daughter one day, hopefully she's going to enjoy. But that's the thing is that she would have enjoyed Star Wars anyways. Yes. So in my mind, it doesn't make much of a difference. But you know, I remember I had a friend. She was like, oh, I think it's really cool that they have Ray now. And I'm like, yeah, but they got a Soka. Soka is much better character and actually has some good character development. What do you want? Like your daughter to look at Ray and be like, oh, everything just kind of comes easy. Well, no, you want a really good fleshed out, developed character. So if we have females like Assange Ventress, which is why I'm happy that she's coming back. Because it's like it's dope if we have chicks that are actually written well and not these stupid, horribly written characters like Ray or Riva. That's what I'm hoping for. Yeah, Riva, I'm all in favor. Yeah, I think good stories will draw people in, will draw more people in regardless of their gender, right? Telling good stories as opposed to targeting them. That's a crazy idea you got right there. That's literally what I say in the Internet. It's it's clipped out. It's literally what I say in the Internet. I'm like, I'm like, what's your view on what Charmine said about a time of woman shaped Star Wars and not so much focusing on the gender of the character rather than focusing more on the stories being told and the character development? And then she went off on her on her bit. And that was and that was the end. That was my last question. It was the end of our discussion. So whatever, man, the Internet is always going to try and paint me a certain way. And that's fine. Yeah, I mean, well, I'm glad everyone on the Internet takes me completely seriously and with all my contacts at all times. I was going to say, what do you have to get to Ryan's phase where it's just he's given up caring? You'll just it's not even playing into it. It's playing well past it at this point. I have given up caring. I don't I don't care. I cared for years ago, but when the Pablo thing happened, that's when I that's when my metamorphosis started. I stopped caring. Yeah, like it is what it is. And everybody here that like watch whole thing context, they kind of get it. There's going to be people that hate you no matter what. So whatever the reality is, whenever you look at it, all this stuff in the landscape, whenever you look at your like ratios, when you look at the comments, people have in your video. It's like it could seem like from a random Twitter perspective because, you know, one person that really despises you gets a lot of likes or whatever. When you actually come back and like look at your channel, like, OK, this video that everyone's so upset about apparently has a ninety eight point nine percent like ratio. So like who's really mad about this? Is it people that watch or is it people that just, you know, don't watch or never would anyway? I don't even really, to be honest, care about that. It's not even like a ratio thing. If I have like one person who's my friend and cool about it. So I've had so many DMs and messages from so many women in my request folder that have actually been really endearing being like, this is insane. I can't believe they're saying this about you. You don't know me, but I watch your channel. I mean, my husband love your channel blah, blah, blah, this and that. And it's like, it's nice to see. Nice to read, but that's not what you see out in the media. All you see in the media is Rolling Stone bullshit article by some dumb ass wrote it because they've nothing, nothing else to talk about. And that's journalism today. So it's like, yeah, do you think make your money? Well, it feels like I'm stuck in a bit of a juxtaposition of like, simultaneously, I see it. And I'm like, well, yeah, that's what always happens. But then simultaneously, I'm also kind of like, huh, there it goes again. Another one because we've had it on on EFAT now since 2019. We we said that Jenny Nicholson had a bad take on Joker, the movie. And it's followed us forever, where it's it just comes up in tweets and read it threads all the time that they did a stream like, like being misogynistic and saying that a woman is like, awful at reviewing film. We were just like, no, we didn't we said that she had a bad take. She said the Joker was bad. And she said, just to give you an example, she said that what's the film about how he is not supposed to take medication? And we were like, no, that's not what the film is about at all. And it's really retarded that you'd say that. But then because it was her, we had like, you can find it. It's just every day, because it's a really good like point farming thing. We like, there's a podcast that talked about it for 11 hours. They just ripped down women because women are not allowed to have opinions. We said they were like, that's like, think the third woman we've covered in like a bazillion episodes. We very much more so go after male creators, mainly because I guess that's there's just more male creators than there are female creators on average, not necessarily in the world, but on YouTube. It just seems that way. Those situations, I like to thanks. Thanks, Caidio, I'll probably be live later tonight. So with those situations, I like to. Kind of just take, you know, what if what if the person we're talking about just swap genders for a minute? You know, would people still be up in arms? You know, like, for example, the thing you just said with Jane Nichols, Nicholson, but yeah, Nicholson. If you were talking about a man, would people be up in arms? You know, probably not. Well, they provably went. We did like a movie bar or whoever else we've done like 10 hours on them and nobody gives a shit. It was funny. We did one like famously on, I think it was not synthetic man. It was cinematic venom. We like ripped him apart for, I think, nine hours. And he's come on in the past month. He came onto the show and we like out of back and forth. It was really chill. And it's just like, yeah, because we're not like trying to destroy people. We're just looking at the videos and kind of laughing if they have, you know, crazy perspectives or whatever. Right from up the OV. But we did it. Ninety nine percent was men. First time we did it to like a woman or like I said, maybe the third time. I can't quite remember. But pissed off the internet hugely. Yeah, I just remember I gave a take about a Batman movie that's followed me around for a while. Dude, yeah, what the fuck people keep feeling like he's hanging out with a racist, like. I mean, right. I have people who don't like you in my discord defending you on that point. They're like, listen, you can rip into Ryan for like really valid things. But that video, he just he was not he was not saying he hates black people. It's not what it was like. No, not at all. And it's like, and I'm even like, listen, I'm super fair. I'm sitting in my car. My beard's a little long. I think I've got a hat on maybe that one. I look super racist. I get it. But yeah, the take was not at all what people make it into. And then I think the thing that makes me more upset than anything else is the stories evolved into he hates the Batman because it has too many good black people. It's like, listen, I really like the Batman. That's the thing that depends me more that they think I don't like the movie when I actually did. I gave it given it eight out of ten when I when I watched it a lot more than I gave it. I think I would downgrade it like after a couple of rewatches. I think that the end is such a mess. I'd probably, you know, bring it down to like seven or so. But I still really enjoyed it in the first two thirds of that movie. Actually, I really dig it. But yeah, I mean, you guys just keep talking. I'm innovating, OK? OK, go. He's evolving. He is. I felt like you do you you do your takes now just knowing they'll get clipped and almost playing into it like on FNT. The favorite thing for me on FNT is I feel like you and I get cheap and quick jokes in that nobody else hears like we have like this little tunnel that goes underneath everybody. Yeah, I get it. Yeah, it's just a little op in a comment where, like, like in the middle of shad going off about like AI art or something. I'm about to shoot myself. What did he say? He was like, oh, my kids, they love the merchandise to do with something that he was like, oh, they want they want like a pillow. It'll be that French. They want cheese. It'll be like what the fuck was it? I mean, my kid asked me for bat cheese. It was. And he did the study was like, what's wrong? Bat cheese. Like, that's weird, Chad. What are you talking about? Is that yeah, my kids obsessed with with Batman. He asked me for bat cheese and you just start dying. And like everybody else, like it's just staring at their phones. This is like a three hour mark, right? So people are like disengaged and you and me are just dying. I mostly was dying because you were dying. Just milking bats and making cheese. Bats have nipples. Can you milk them? But yeah, dude, it's legit. It felt like nobody else on the cast had any clue. What what had just been said, I don't know. I guess people in chat got it though. So did you again, since you didn't know we were streaming, very did a reaction to the Bad Batch season three trailer, which all right. Yeah, I've had a couple of messages about this. So that's that's that's the end of it now, right? This will be the last season for the Bad Batch. Yes. Last season of the Bad Batch. But there's any bad batch for the record. We haven't seen Clone Wars either. We haven't seen Clone Wars either, man. Well, I mean, it's good to clarify that, right? Because I might have seen Bad Batch and not Clone Wars, which would probably upset you more. Yeah, that would because it's be so weird. It's really much better. Yeah. Um, yeah, I listen, I know theory you've been like begging from all to watch Clone Wars. I have to and I think for different reasons. I think because you think he's going to love it and I think he's going to hate it. He's going to hate it. I think so. Did you hate it? I had a really hard time watching it. I didn't like it, but it was Star Wars. I was like trying to get, I was trying to consume it. I had all the DVD sets up through season four. And then I was just like, like, Mal coming back was like my breaking point where I'm like, I can't pretend that I'm OK with any of this. When you didn't watch season five. Well, I watched it all, but like I actually bought the DVD sets and I watched a lot of the special, like behind the scenes. You know what I mean? Like I have all those sets all the way up through four. And then I was like, I just can't pretend that I'm like that I love this, like I love the rest of Star Wars. Damn. What didn't you like about it? Well, we've talked about it a lot before. It's I feel like. I feel like it's hard to justify in my mind that a lot of things that happen in Clone Wars are like actually in line with the movies. I don't believe that Count Dooku fought Obi-Wan and Anakin like eight times in between Geonosis and when we see in Revenge of the Sith. Right. I really don't like the way General Grievous is depicted in a lot of it. Like the fact that the first time. Like and this is not a soca in like season six or something or season five. This is like episode seven of the Clone Wars, that when Grievous meets Ahsoka in in that little passageway on the ship, she shouldn't survive that encounter, like against General Grievous, but she actually goes toe to toe with him for about 10 seconds. Yeah, like like she should not survive that encounter. No, she should have been dead. Yeah. So there's just like things like that along with it I really didn't like. And I think that people really love Matt Lantern's portrayal of of Anakin and I get it. But I don't think I can connect the characters with Haydn's portrayal. I think it's a different character. I think it's from the beginning from the Clone Wars movie in the first season of Clone Wars all the way to then it feels like a different character to me than Haydn's Anakin. So it was really tough for me to connect these things in my mind to the movies because I didn't feel like it fit. So that was a big problem I had with it in general. Yeah, no, I could see that. But the thing with Anakin, it shows more of like a nicer side of him. The Anakin from from Haydn, I felt like was, in my opinion, better because it was just and this is a directing thing. I think they needed to either use Haydn or they needed to find someone that or direct Matt in a way where he wasn't so I don't want to say optimistic, but maybe a little more. Broody like Haydn was, yeah. Well, like in his head, it especially because I believe if I have the timeline, right? We're talking about like six to eight weeks after Attack of the Clones is when you first start off in like TCW, that is not a lot of time, especially when Anakin should have been like recovering from injury and things like that. So it just it's just a different and I get it. It's, you know, it's geared towards a younger audience and things like that. So I understand. But at the same time, you know, I think all the Star Wars, you know, should be attacked like that, that audience, that same age demographic. Right. And but it just didn't feel like that to me. No, yeah. No, I don't disagree, man. But I still liked it. I just I think it just has a completely different feel. And I think that's what kind of what it's like. It's own thing almost connects the stories in a different way. Yeah. And that's why I'm interested to know what Mala thinks of it. It's pretty crazy for somebody to right now in 2024, go in and watch Clone Wars for the first time. I think it's going to be interesting. Well, he's supposed to watch the 2D one with me with the one by Gendi Tartarovsky. Oh, that one. I love that. Yeah, I was sick. I love it because obviously it's like the animation style. It's like a little like overboard and stuff like that. But the feel of the characters. To me is much more in sync with between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. Yeah, I feel that. I feel that. I don't disagree. Ryan, what's your take on the Mortis stuff? The Mortis stuff is weird. But I feel like the Mortis stuff, there is there is George in the Mortis stuff. Yeah, 100 percent is like a George thing. Yeah. I guess my my main problems with it are the fact that it's carried on so much specifically for Ahsoka, like since then, where people want to say, well, they have every excuse in the world for Ahsoka is like, well, technically, she is, you know, she was revived by a force God and blah, blah, blah. And also the other reason. I like the episodes themselves and like the idea of them being in this dimension, but the entire description of balance as is described in the Mortis arc runs counterintuitive to the way George has always described what balance means. Every time you hear George talk about the force and being in balance, he's not talking about a balance between the light and the dark side. He's balance means the absence of darkness. And when any darkness starts to creep in, it throws off balance. Got clips of him sitting there right in front of like the Clone Wars staff with Dave Floney taking notes while he's talking about the force that way. So the idea then of creating this system where you have someone who's trying to keep the dark and light side in balance is a little bit counterintuitive to the idea of the way the force is being described before. If that makes sense. Theory is not convinced. I remember the scene you're talking about where go ahead. Let me see if I can find that clip where George is specifically talking. I remember the clip where everyone's taking notes. It's it's. Yeah, yeah, there's there's anything I've learned over the time of getting really into like understanding the fans' perspective with interacting with the man, you know, reviewing Star Wars movies. It's that there's a couple of schools of thought on this, the balance of the force. And some of them are pretty funny. I mean, do you cover the the Freddie Prince, Junior, Rand's theory? I did. Yeah, I did. I was absolutely ridiculous. I don't know. Funny, though. Where is the problem is where he was like, you have you have Palpatine and then you have Anakin. And so Palpatine gets over to the dock to create two darksiders and then the force counters with two twins being lightsiders. And then everyone's just like, oh, Yoda or Obi-Wan. He's just like. And also what about his own fucking character who is still alive? Canaan is still there. Like his character that he plays still exists during that timeline. And he's so stupid, he forgot about that. We cover this all. I don't I don't know why he would go on that. The main rant of talking about it is where he it's people like him who really purport the idea that because you don't like rape means that you don't like girls. He's like, you're just mad because Han Solo gave the Millennium Falcon to a fucking girl. And it's like. Cool, dude. Yeah, let's use that because it's that you have to purport this absolute nonsense. Cool. So maybe she's a shit character. How about you never had a problem with a Soko or a Soj or Mara Jade or Basilashon or any of the other. You're crazy. Most people didn't say much about Gineoso either. It was kind of like he said anything about Gineoso. She's fine. Why? Because she was written well. She was written OK. It's not like an opera compared to Ray. I mean, oh my God, well, compared to Riva. Yeah, you can. Gineoso has a start, middle and end, I guess, of the Empire like ruining her life and then she gets to strike at the heart of the end sort of thing. OK, I'm sharing this clip from George right here. All right. If you can add it. Oh, sorry. There's too much mucus in my next time. All right, here we go. It might be a little low, but I got to turn up as much as I can. Yeah, the core of the forest. I mean, you got the dark side, the light side. One is selfless, one is selfish. And you want to keep them in balance. What happens when you go to the dark side is it goes out of balance and then you get really selfish and you forget about everybody. Ultimately, you lead yourself because when you get selfish, you get stuff where you want stuff and when you want stuff and you get stuff, then you get afraid somebody's going to take it away from you, whether it's a person or a thing or a particular pleasure experience. So that's what I'm talking about there. When he talks about balance, like to me, when I when I hear him talk about this, the balance is not a balance between light and dark. The balance, it means absence of dark. When you start to go towards the dark side, you go out of balance is what he said. Do you know what I mean? Can you play it again like we're 20 seconds back? Yeah, yeah. The core of the forest. I mean, you got the dark side, the light side. One is selfless, one is selfish. And you want to keep them in balance. What happens when you go to the dark side is it goes out of balance and then you get really selfish and you forget about everybody and you ultimately lead yourself because when you get selfish, you get stuff where you want stuff and when you want stuff and you get stuff, then you get afraid somebody's going to take it away from you, whether it's a person or a thing or a particular pleasure. What's interesting about that is that I actually think the English he's using is not quite precise because I actually agree with Ryan's interpretation. But the words he uses when he says you have the lights on the dark side and there's a balance, the implication is that you stay in the middle of them with a line like that. But the thing is I don't think that's what George means. I don't think he means stay in the middle of light and dark. Yeah. And that's what I mean. He's talking about it. He's not like writing a book or an essay. I think he does. I think that's exactly what he means, actually. But I don't think that matches the O.T. story at all because then the inverse of that, this is what I'm saying, the inverse of that would mean that when you're pure, when you're selfless, that it throws the force out of balance. That would be that would have to be true for that to be what he means. No, but you've got to look at how he wrote the prequels. The Jedi fell because they were way too entrusting of politics so they were not in balance anymore. And that's why Duke left. That's why Qui-Gon wasn't on the council because he just didn't give a shit. He said, these guys are just full of shit at this point. They're not really trusting in the force. So I think there's something we could take away from this, actually, that there's more underlying in there than the thing about that is they also fell because of a hypodoxide user. He killed them all. To me, the the story of why the Jedi fell is because they started this dogmatic adherence and allegiance to a government instead of to the force. Now, that to me doesn't necessarily have anything to do with them. You know, get a little more towards like darkness and flying out of bounds and that to me, that is a lesson that when you start being aligned to something that is not the will of the force, that's the end result of what we saw. That's why the Jedi fell. But yeah, yeah, go ahead. I could see that. No, I just said the way I think he wrote the prequels is that they were so flawed, that the Jedi were so flawed with their politics that it just completely throwing off balance. But then in the end, it also makes me wonder like, you know, how much of a hand did he have in Luke going on after the turn of the Jedi with how he started to use the new Jedi or his new philosophy of what a Jedi is by using more aspects of the force and kind of being like, well, we're not going to follow the same rules as the prequel trilogy or the originals and kind of just go along with, you know, like, oh, I can't use the force powers because then I'm a dark side. Instead of actually he was like, oh, no, I'll rather use all these powers and then have my ability as a Jedi to dictate remaining in the light or not just by not being a bad person instead of being afraid of, oh, if I do this, then I'm a bad guy or if I do this, I'm a good guy. He was more so and that's what I liked about Luke. And that's what I was hoping we would have seen in the last Jedi that he was more so powerful in his choices, at least. The funny thing about this is I find that like at this point, we get into the interesting nature of like political systems falling apart, as opposed to the Jedi fell too far into the light. And that's what they like problem was in the prequels. Yeah, I would argue like that's I find the prequels super interesting for the fact that they show like how a system can fall apart from the inside. But, you know, I wouldn't want to discount as well that most evil son of a bitch in history was the one that was controlling things from the inside. That also matters. Yeah. So so like that, yeah, that's why when when I when I see that George has said, like, I get it, bringing balance by knocking out Palpatine and himself. I'm like, right, so the dark side, once the dark side's gone, there is literally. Yeah. Yeah. And that's kind of that's what I mean, because if you're if you're going to argue that, well, that that way of seeing it, that balances this perfect like equal thing like is kind of portrayed in mortis. And that's kind of why I have a trouble like connecting that, because to me, that would mean that if you're selfless, if there's all this pure and goodness in the galaxy, that the force would be out of balance. So when when Luke Skywalker there on the Death Star, blah, blah, blah, you know, Palpatine dies, Bayer is redeemed. Now the force is out of balance. Right. That's that would be like the implication in that. Right. It doesn't really like, like users. We've got to get some dark users. We covered someone on EFAP who legit was under the impression that it's individual count of users like that. That's how you balance the force. So if there's three dark sides, we've got to have three light sides. If the three dark side is kill the three light side is three light side is are immediately born like they were convinced that's how the world works. Right. And it's kind of weird with the Jedi. They're like balance, just if there's zero dark ciders and like 10,000 Jedi, it's like, well, that's not balance. So then I guess that's why Dave created Bendy. Which, honestly, that thing fuck confuses the shit out of me. Yeah, funny name. Like who is this? Who is this giant cow? Like all there's also a watch rebel cow. Mahler's also not watch rebels. So he doesn't know Bendy who's basically there's a giant cow, there's a giant cow, a giant cow. This sounds like a meme. You fuck with me. I don't think he's a cow. Is he? Bring him up. Oh, let me look at him. He's a he's a cow. He's a big cow. He's like a giant cow. I need to tell Rags and bring him out of this. He's a giant cow. He's not Chad. What is he? Yeah, everyone knows Bendy the giant. He looks more like a moose to me. Whatever, moose, cow, whatever. You can milk him both. Be careful, though. Hold on, image. I'm pulling up this image. Here we go. Giant cow. Here we go. Yeah, famously drunk three. I didn't watch rebels. Yeah, he's in my team. I'm sharing it. Yeah, this is a Ben do the giant. Man, he does what exactly? He's like a force guy. He's a he's some, I don't know. What a goat, a giant goat with antlers. He's a space goat. Yeah, and he kind of voice by Tom Baker. Well, that's cool. It is voiced by Tom Baker. And he is kind of sort of described. He essentially provides guidance to Canaan specifically. It just so happens that they end up making base on this freaking planet where Ben do just so happens to exist to give this guidance to Canaan, but kind of teaches him to embrace a little bit different aspects of the force. And again, this is so this is nothing to do with like this is solely a Disney Dave Filoni like work. That's what rebels is. So yeah, I don't what do you make of him vanishing with the throne? I don't freaking know, dude. Like I rebels to me is. I get some people love it and I, you know, there's some people I know that like means a lot to them and everything. I'm not a big rebels fan. I think there's a couple like, you know, cool episodes. I think for the most part, the reason that people are so attached to rebels is because they're attached to Clone Wars. So they really like when a soak is there. They really like the mall episodes, like all of that stuff because of how much they care about Clone Wars. I don't know if the characters of Ezra and Canaan stand by themselves all that much in great grand scope of Star Wars. However, I will say that I think that Canaan and Hera's connection is is cool and seeing what Canaan does to save everybody. It's, you know, it I feel something when that happens, even if I don't really like the characters. So I think that rebels is a little bit worse than Clone Wars. But I I get why a lot of people are very attached to it. Yeah, I was never too into rebels, to be honest. But yeah, it was OK. It was all right. I just didn't find myself getting so attached to the characters, like you said. I hate listen, I hate Sabine. I'm not a big fan of Space Aladdin, Ezra. Yeah, I don't like Ezra very much. I don't be like I like Canaan more. Ahsoka pops up again, Mahler. Ahsoka pops up in what season two of Rebels and you find out that Ahsoka lives. And, you know, she's played a very instrumental role in the creation, the entire rebellion, by the way, is what we find out in that. And then at the end of season two, end of season two, I think, right? Where she faces Vader, right, theory? End of season two of Rebels. Don't ask me, man. I don't know Rebels all that well. But yeah, I think so. Yeah, I love Disney Star so much. But the end of season two, she faces off with Vader and this entire huge Sith temple is like crumbling around them as they've gone there to get a Sith holocron and Maul happens to be there. And he tricks Ezra to help him get a Sith holocron. It's a whole big deal. But anyway, they freaking battle and Ahsoka is facing Vader and she decides to like stay there and fight and let them get away because I'm not leaving you again and a lot of people thought that was like a super powerful moment. And the temple comes crumbling out around them. And at the end, you basically see Vader emerge from there very damaged and battered and beaten, but Ahsoka is dead. That's the implication. And until season four of Rebels, when Ezra uses the world between worlds to essentially go back to that place in space time and pull Ahsoka into the world between worlds. There's two seasons between that payoff. I think so, right? Season, like a retcon of that point as opposed to some of the intended. Hey, I mean, I'm I might like I could have the seasons wrong, but I don't think I do. I do think that was world between worlds in season four when he saves Ahsoka. Yeah, that's why it's all has no idea what Ryan's talking about. Unfortunately, I do. I had to edit a lot of the Ahsoka episodes. And so I had to go look at those clips. Yeah, I didn't. I'm not a fan of World Two Worlds. I mean, I think there's a lot of fun, interesting stuff we could get from it. Like we saw on the Ahsoka show, but at the end of the day, it just doesn't really. I just don't like time travel stuff. And as much as Dave Filoni wants to say it's not time travel, I mean, you're literally going back in time and altering that timeline by taking someone out and died, like, how is that not time to argue the only way it's not time travel is that it is time travel plus. There are things you can do in the world in worlds beyond time travel even. But you literally, yeah, yeah. You see Ahsoka limp out of the temple as well. Yeah, but only afterwards. Only after she was taken out of there. And then she went back in. Yeah, I don't even know what happened with that. Yeah. So the original version, she dies. And then the altered version of Ezra, it's like what, she pretends to die or she escapes. How does that work? As Dave Filoni. Yeah, maybe we'll find out in Ahsoka season two. Will between worlds confirms the timeline Star Wars is fixed, meaning Ahsoka was always meant to be saved through the Will Between Worlds, which I don't even know it's correct. Right. The implication is that that action by Ezra that takes place a couple years after happened and we saw that happen, that she was saved in that moment. That's why it happened. That's why she didn't die. That's what that's what that is. She didn't actually die. Chats was saying the chat saying, I don't remember. Yeah, like that's the order of. That's the implication from what happens as you see that she gets saved by Ezra and pulled in the world between worlds. And that when she then exits the world between worlds, there is kind of to me, that's the implication of that's the timeline where she gets saved. And that is always what happens. If that makes sense. Yeah, but that's what we're saying. Well, what's chat saying that that happened in season two that you see her that you see her limping out of the temple? Yeah, you don't see that in season two. You don't see that in season two before the world between worlds. You see that we can pull up the scene in season four, right? Like in season two, whatever the door closes and that's it. We don't see them again. Vader, Sith temple scene from rebels. Ryan, Ryan, look, this is the internet. This is the internet, look. Ryan, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Ryan is right. I see people say like, Ryan has no idea what he's talking about. I was like, why can't you just say you disagree? Ryan has no idea. Yeah, look, I can't really remember. I'm trying to find the full scene so we can watch it. I'll do you. So let me see what I can find while we're talking. You guys can keep talking while I'm looking. That's in season two. Yeah, I was reading Chad. OK, so she does limp out at the end of season two. We're. Well, maybe it was planned. I don't know, because I was curious if if what we saw overall then was him changing his mind for Loni or whether or not what he wanted to do with the soccer or. No, I think he always planned to not have her die. You know what I mean, 100 percent. Yeah, I don't think you'll ever never actually kill her. OK, then you would have to find out again. You'd have to find out why that happened. The idea that. The idea that her and Vader were fighting and they just, you know, before Ezra came there that they just decided to stop and be like, well, I guess we're done now. If he walks away, I don't think that that I don't think that will happen. No, probably not. But again, how the fuck can I find this scene? Vader, Lisa, Temple season two rebels. Oh, I typed in a soak and dies and I think I found it. At least it looks like it. I don't know if this is what you're looking for, but. I popped it in private channel. And I get this lighting right. I just can't. So it was real death. Is this like an edit? I don't know, because I'm just not familiar with what theory was saying about the door closed and you can see that in there. And then. That's just that's just like an edit, I think. This is an edit saying that this is how she should have stayed dead. Just for the record, surprising about the people who feel that way. Well, it's just it's a very fitting end. You know what I mean? That's pretty good, I guess. Like that, that to me, even as someone who thinks that Ahsoka should have died in like the Clone Wars time frame, if you're going to keep her alive, I do think that that's that's a very nice way for the story to end is her facing off against her old master and saying, you know, I'm not leaving you. And that's how she perishes. If if Clone Wars all came out today, I don't think it would be received. It was quite well. I think there's better or worse than it currently is probably better. So from my experience with my channel, I was like the only Anakin fanboy. I was made fun of for being an Anakin fanboy for years. I used to have the cutouts behind me and this and that. Oh, he only cares about Anakin and this and that. And now Anakin's super mainstream, Haydn's mainstream Haydn's in Star Wars. So it's like, I think if Clone Wars were released today, it would be so well received beyond beyond even Clone Wars season seven was. So I think it'd be great. I mean, I think you might be right in terms of just everyone be like, this is closer to what everyone would actually want, as opposed to, you know, Riva or just shows that I like I've never met a single person. I've never seen a single thread online about how great of a character Riva was. It's really hard to talk about a story without sounding like an idiot, as in like she wanted to kill innocent people in order to get to have the chance to kill Kenobi because he's the reason that she was killed. You know, like it's just like it makes absolutely no sense. And it's just so nonsensical to even have that to be a primary focal point of the story, which is about freaking Obi-Wan and Darth Vader. We don't give a shit about this new made up character. Piss off. Yeah, so basically what happens to catch them all are up. There's this big confrontation. There's a Soka and actually, to be honest, they ripped off this part for the Obi-Wan series, you know, so I don't know if you've ever seen people talk about that. But essentially, the temple's coming down around everybody. And you see I want to see the Vader part where he walks out. Come on, probably a little before. Fuck, am I? There's a scene where you see Vader walking out right here. I don't I'm keeping it down so I don't get hit with the music. You see Vader walking out of the temple. You see the fucking owl. Oh, that's the sister, right? Yes, exactly. And then see him getting better at this. And then down here somehow, you see the limping form of a Soka right here. Oh, and that's from season two. That's from season two. So they always plan to go back and save her that way. And what I want to know is what happens. Right. Because she never shows back up for years. And she doesn't show back up. So what I want to know is like what happens to a Soka after Ezra pulls her out and then she goes back to find her place, which I think is here. In the world between world or oh, yeah, sorry. How does this make sense with Ezra pulling her out then? My interpretation of it is that in a lot what a lot of people say is that a Soka didn't want to didn't want to mess with the timeline of things. So she went back here to let things play out the way they should have played and waited there for a while. What? Yes, instead of just immediately coming back and helping out with everybody. You agree, theory? I'm sorry, I was not paying attention. I was blowing out my freaking brains. People who you came up with. I was farting. OK, I was freaking blowing my nose, man. I'm just doing mute and do it on camera. Yeah. And then you get the sick thing at the end of Ezra with a sip holocron. And at the beginning of season three, he's like, yeah, I'm super edgy now. I cut my hair and now I'm using the dark side. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't think it was a like a retcon to do that. But like, I think I always planned on doing that. The plan will stay. Yeah, I think Filoni planned that. Not a great addition, I reckon. On my brains out. Isn't it like anybody dies now? There's a question of the will between wills. Yeah, that's the problem. Right. And I'm still kind of confused with Ahsoka. So it's like, you know, when she fell off, did she get resurrected or was that a dream or was she just floating in the water the whole time and he was in her head? I've seen so like I've seen a lot of fans of it claim that, yeah, she did die an Anakin like that sent God back in the game, so to speak. Which I don't know what to say about, you know what I mean? I'm just like, I don't. Looks like how many times are you going to die when you cut her head off? And she's going to keep living. Well, is she even killable now? Is she like Ahsoka the White, where she's like immune? But then again, she ran away from Baylin. So, you know, I assume she actually is still is she can be killed, I'm guessing. But I don't know, would that even make sense if she was killed? So if she fell off a cliff, how she alive? Did you watch a lot of the any of the behind the scenes stuff that they showed with Hayden and everything? Because when when they're talking to it or even when that line that everyone's pointing to to be like, obviously, this is Hayden who already went through the fight with Luke and like knows all this stuff. They're they're talking about it like they wanted it to be super ambiguous. They didn't want to define it. I think they wanted people asking these questions and whether making up your own theory or story or whatever, they didn't want to define it at all. Hmm. That's how I feel about it, at least. But it's also she's potentially immortal because she's fused with a daughter from mortis. So who said the daughter got killed? The daughter did get killed, but she's following her around as the owl called Morai. What I'm saying is that if the daughter got killed, how is infusing yourself with the daughter making you immortal? Because the daughter got killed by another god, like another DT being. So you're a mortal other than other mortis beings can kill you. Yes. Or unless you have unless you have the dagger of mortis, Mauler, right, which is why Superman getting stabbed with a kryptonian sword. Or unless you're Anakin and just uses a lightsaber randomly. On Reva. Yeah, so I imagine if I got all of this first hand from the stuff itself, I'm probably not going to be super happy with it, especially compared to just. I don't know if this is a bit insane and lofty compared to just having characters going through difficult or interesting or different things. Like this this feels a little like it's it's trying to be bigger than it has the capacity to control, especially with the will between worlds. So the the daughter basically dies because the son is trying to kill the father with the dagger of mortis or the blade of mortis. And like the daughter gets the way and he stabs her. And as she's dying, the father fucking uses the last of her life essence to bring a stoker back to life. In the third episode of the mortis arc. Yeah, it's a little confusing. I think I think that's what happens. I just OK. So like to try and level this out, like when I think of the stuff I love about Star Wars and I'll use a prequels as an example, like the war above Carson, like that shit is super cool and interesting and arguably grounded. When we start talking about the gods of mortis imbuing people with power in order to fulfill prophecies and move them to just like, OK, like that's that's distinctly less interesting to me than the invisible hand is trying to escape the battle with Palpatine as captured. But they're also trying to force Anakin into a position where he may have to make a choice to lead him down to the dark side. That stuff is way more interesting to me. Ryan, someone said that Anakin never stabbed the sun. He did. He stabbed the sun. Well, I don't. But didn't he just kill him with his lightsaber? Did he actually use the blade of mortis? That's always been like a theory, like right about the sun out there. No, he didn't use the blade. You're right. Because I think I talked about that at one point in God, he did some fucking video about I went on some rant on something in a soak about potentially the sun or some manifestation of the sun popping up in something. And I think I brought that up. Let me see if I can probably soak it. He's probably just going to come back in season two. Yeah, like he's because he like he's ain't killed forever. They just used a lightsaber. So then he'll be back and maybe the dagger of mortis will be somewhere. And so cool. I have to find it and him for real. So she does. Yeah. So Ray does stuff that Luke can't do. And Ahsoka does stuff that Anakin can't do. That's how right. But there was sort of like I remember there was like a horcrux thing. I connected it to Harry Potter because I remember the father severed his tie or whatever by killing himself. So that's how the sun was able to be wounded by Anakin's blade. So the father stabbed himself with the dagger. Then Anakin stabbed the sun. So it's like, well, technically he should be dead. But on a technicality, they could always not. I guess we'll find out on Ahsoka season two. I guess. And this is why I don't really like the mortis arc. It's like so much of it is and even when they come back. The implication is that they all like took part in the shared interdimensional thing that happened. And they're like questioning was that real? Was it a dream? Whatever. And again, after that happened, Star Wars, Kenny, that's good. After that happened, what they try to do in the expanded universe. And that's how we ended up with the Abolot thing was they bounced off mortis. They took what they did in mortis and they did a little play off that. Like, OK, there's a father, a son and a daughter where, you know, was there ever a mother and they try to do this Abolot thing? Somebody who wanted to be a mother but was not. And, you know, I ended up becoming this dark fucking force being that Luke has to team up with people to destroy. Yeah. Where do you guys hope this goes? What, Ahsoka? Mortis. Into another power dynamic. I hope it's not Thrawn. That's the freaking the big bad because he's honestly been written out to be like an idiot. So I don't know what I hope comes out of all of this. But what I fear comes out of all of it again is just what I said. That Ahsoka continues to like up and up and up like power level to being. This is what I could see happening potentially. What if the intention was for Balan to become essentially the representation of the sun and Ahsoka's the representation of the daughter and like they they end up kind of they're the ones that are battling it out for the good of the fucking galaxy. I don't know. Ryan just wants every star was buried and die. Eventually, yes. I like some of them could die. The ones I don't like, I wish could die. I agree with that. But Ahsoka to me, I've talked about this a long time. I think that Ahsoka living through the original trilogy is kind of like really stupid. And the idea that. The first scene that we get between her and Luke Skywalker. Is not like. Luke telling her about what happened with Anakin at the end and her like sharing experiences like is wild to me. Because if you're going to keep her alive, if you're going to have a part of this, that is such a missed opportunity. That is the one thing that a lot of Ahsoka lovers, they wanted to see so much. What happens when she meets Luke and realizes that Anakin at the end redeemed himself after all of that stuff that could be a very powerful moment for people that care so much about that character and the journey. And instead, we just see this little like one off two minute scene of her in Book of Oba Fett wild. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I was really hoping that we would be able to see her and Luke talking and it can show up and then they're all like, Oh, my God, like, hey, dad, for us on EFAP when we saw that episode, we were like, isn't that the girl from like all of the Clone Wars and those Vader and how come their conversation was so stilted and weird that we had comments being filled with things like, what the fuck was that conversation? Where was where was everything between Luke? And we're just like, oh, shit, this is way worse than we even we realized. Yeah, I was hoping that their first interaction that we'd see on screen would be between them never having met before. Yeah, maybe them coming like I made a comic for join members. I made a few pages of a comic a few years ago and it was essentially them just meeting for the first time. Like sick. As far as I'm concerned, we have not seen Luke since Return of the Jedi whatsoever. Yeah, yeah, we have not. So I'm going to do a plug for a couple of seconds here. Well, all right, plug it. Here we go. If you guys want to get your sabers, now is the last chance between the I think it's twenty fifth when the manufacturers go on holidays. So you won't be getting your saver out till at least February 25th. But if you get it in before then, then you'll be able to grab one. So these are all neopixel, very high quality savers. Very, very nice. I really like them all smooth swing and everything that you want. So go check them out through savers.com. One question. If you stab someone in the stomach with one, will they survive? Yeah. Authentic. Yeah, especially if you use the the anti saver. Go. I like it. So Mrs. Do you have a dooku saber? Yeah, so I'm actually working on a major website right now. Just insanely expensive and takes a lot of time. But it's going to be a massive store front on there. And as you'll see that probably the next couple of months being built every day. It's being worked on. The dooku health is my favorite, I think. So it's pretty bitchin. So I love I did you read the Darth Bane trilogy theory? I did. So it's one of my favorites. Second book is very rushed, clearly. But one of the really cool things they do in that book is Drew Karpushin, who obviously, you know, architect of a lot of co-tour shit, got really into detail when it came to lightsaber combat and force techniques specifically for battle and things. And Bane gets given a Bane gets given Bane receives a curved hilt lightsaber from the person who's teaching at the Sith Temple. And it really goes into detail about how he's able to use it to manipulate and enhance his strength and things like that throughout his combat. I just find it really cool. So it kind of makes you rethink what do is able to do and how he's able to manipulate it that way. Well, it was written. I forgot which book it was written in, but it literally said his curved hilt allows him to emphasize more power on the downswing or something like that. And to like spin it. It was it wrote it nicely. I forgot exactly what it was written out. But yeah, it was like literal spec reasons why they designed it that certain way for the character. It's cool. Yeah, Darth Bane trilogy for anybody that that hasn't read it. Highly recommend. Takes place a thousand years before the OT and explains the the beginning of the rule of two. Curved hilt is a hack, but it's harder. It's harder to use. You've got to be really good. And he was so cool looking with it. That's what matters. I guess we should start reading soupies. I'm sorry, guys, I haven't been sleeping much the last few days. I've just been like working that crazy and keeping up with the sales. And then I've been sick and traveling. So I'm just kind of my conversations of a little brain dead, to be honest. So thanks for carrying the conversation, guys. He did it again. He retconned another person's work. Ventures died and now she's lost. That's something that I've heard people talking about. So just want to give me some context. She's she's in the trailer, but you're happy to see her or I'm happy to see her. Yeah. Well, I'm I'm not if it actually is a retcon. So there is a statement out. All right. Ventures dies in a book, Dark Disciple. She dies in that book. It's a new canon book, you know, supposed to all fit in. She appears in the Bad Batches in three trailer. She should be dead at this point. There's some speculation. People are saying, well, maybe it's a flashback. There's a statement on Star Wars dot com about, hey, we're after she apparently perished, they're happy to announce that this is going to go in line with the events of Dark Disciple. So some people are saying, well, that means clearly that she's dead. And it's just going to be a flashback. And some people are saying, well, the way they phrase that sounds like it's another retcon. Yeah, I think it's a retcon the way they phrased it. Why would they say it apparently? It wouldn't make any sense. They would only say that if they were getting ready for you to understand that she's no longer dead. Literally, apparently. Well, she full on died. She got electrocuted by Count Dooku and got roasted. Apparently. Apparently. A lot of people are saying they intend to align it with that book. So. Right. That's what they said. Said, let me pull up that statement. Hold on. Interesting. I'm a Dave Guy, but Dark Disciple was a great book. Makes me not want to read the books anymore because they could have a huge waste of time. You did this to New Dawn book as well. And that was the first that was the rebels book, right? The first like one of the first books you don't publish. Yeah, then I have hair on the cover. I can't remember. I think it has anything as Canaan and Hera on the cover. That was like to me. I think that was one of the first books that they published. I mean, again, it would have happened with when rebels was about to come out or did come out. And I didn't read that one. Did you? I don't think I read it. No, New Disney. I don't think I was going to read that. I did read Tarkin because Tarkin was in the works before they made the decision that they weren't going to do you stuff. And they ended up changing a bunch of things. But I kind of wanted to see what the with the bones of it were. I did the audible. It's dope. Yes. Perhaps Ventress will end up screwing up the empire's plans and Vader will have to come in to fight her. Well, maybe he wouldn't be much of a fight. Well, you never know. Yeah, we remember him against Seer. Oh, my God. Everything. And that's yeah, exactly. That to me, I talked about that as well. I'm really tired of seeing people fight Vader and escape. Yeah, or like beat the shit out of him. And he like narrowly beat like. Fuck off, this is Vader. Stop it. Yeah, like, oh, man, I needed a draw. They were able to get away or wow. She really went toe to toe with Vader before finally losing. It's like, no, she didn't. She couldn't. No man could. No woman could. It doesn't don't even make it about gender. It's no being alien. Whatever, could what I did. I liked how they did it in you can only do it so many times. But in the first Jedi, Jedi night game, Jedi survivor, is that the first one? No, fall in order, fall in order and fall in order. Where as soon as you realize Vader's coming for you, it's like Cal's just running. You know what I mean? Yeah, I forget that moment of time and she gets like needed. How's just running like straight up? I'm running for my life. But you can only like do that shit so much. I know. Do you think they'll make a Ventress show or movie? Probably not. Can't say plus. Hey, what's up, dude? He goes with Dark Deceptive Storyline and Star Wars Concurrent. It's just that apparently part throws me off. Yeah, like, why would they say that? Like, why would you say apparently perished? And this is not screen. It's not comic book movie. This is Star Wars dot com. I mean, let's see if I can find that article. Maybe they don't want to, maybe they don't want to spoil the book. And why would you say apparently perished? I don't know. The theory could be right. They use that language because they're kind of idiotic and they're like, we'll say apparently so we're not confirming anything even though. So no one can be like, you spoiled the book for us. Wait, Moeller, what'd you send me? Is that a link? What is this? Hmm. Oh, in the private chat or whatever. That was just about the soaker and stuff. Oh, got it. Golted. Well, cool news. Plenty is doing canon. We did the legends. Bring back characters that died is lazy. You know, how good is D? I haven't read it. It was a good book. It's Quinlan, the Saage, Dooku. If we get Ventress, do we get boss? I see that'd be nice, but maybe in the future. The ventress can come back and so it can come back and the emperor can come back. Then why can't Luke come back? Because he can't fucking be careful. You wish for as well. Fifteen episodes, their season finale will air May 1st. Can't wait for theories. Watch buddies. Oh, that was 15 episodes. That's crazy. Well. No, because there's three episodes of the first night. So it's a good premiere. Yeah. So it's going to be like 12 weeks. So that means. Wait, will I have to watch them then to step the date? Oh, I don't even make sense because I've to see the first two and then you're going to want me to see rebels and you want to see Clone Wars. Yeah, you got to watch Clone. You got to watch all seven seasons of Clone Wars. You got to watch all four seasons of Rebels. Then you got to watch two seasons of Bad Batch and then you need to catch up, Mauler, so hurry the fuck up. Thanks to me first to do that. Yes, we'll give you to May 4th. Oh, Jody Foster admitted she was off to play Leia. That would make Han a big perv for hitting on a 14 year old. When we look at Padme with. Padme with. It wasn't hitting on him. You could film trying to fuel fan arguments because they have no creative ideas and had a best further the story, but they know how to say something. So they fueled the divide to keep fans on that and keep fans talking about that side of Star Wars that's so dumb. Hmm. I mean, there's a lot. I feel like we just try and search for anything that can make any of this make sense from like a better point of view sometimes. And I don't know, man, sometimes I don't know. It's not. And I was talking to it. The stuff you guys know, I hung out with Nick Gillard a few days ago. Right. Well, we were talking on the phone too last night was two nights ago. And it's just the amount of. Difference between Star Wars now and when George was involved is quite interesting. And I, you know, in response to this comment, I really think that it's not even so much that they're trying to divide a fan base. I just don't think they really know what they're doing. It comes down to just ignorance, to be honest. We can find clip after clip and interview after interview of George shitting all over traditional Hollywood studios. Yeah, for like the way they've done business. And, you know, then he sold Star Wars to Disney with the implication that he might have thought they were going to treat it a little bit differently than they did, but the truth is now it's like it's like every other one of these big studios wouldn't even have need to have seen the sequels to have known that they've gone in a completely different direction. Just look at the culture. Look at the fan reactions. Like, whoa, the fuck happened. And that's like the prequels who up to that point were famously known as being like the divisive Star Wars films. But now they've been completely dethroned for that aspect. Yeah. And I really don't know what the future is, like what it's going to be like for them. I think when you look at the reaction of the prequels versus the reaction of the sequels, I'm someone who loved the prequels, obviously. I understand some people didn't like them, but that you can kind of understand how people can have a lot of preconceived notions about what the story was, right, about how we got to this point. When you know the end point, it's way easier to talk and like pretty definitively about how you get there. And when you see something that you don't think like that didn't align with what you thought it would be, you can maybe be a little upset or whatever with the sequels. After when there's no end point, I feel like there is so many infinite possibilities in people's heads when you go out to see how the story of Star Wars could have continued, that there shouldn't be as much inherent vitriol from people that thought there was this fixed point. And it only makes so much sense for these things to happen. So the outrage we saw for the sequels was to me far bigger than a lot of stuff. We saw for the prequels was less reason to be so. There was just a coverage that said George is rolling in his grave. See what Disney has done. He's not dead. He's not dead. Assholes is alive. Bro, I I saw a clip of him from a couple months ago and it looks sad. But he's getting on. He's nearly 18 now, right? Yeah, he's getting old and he's not like the best shape. But it just he like got out of a car and he was like walking into like something and it's like security like there's obviously fans all around who wanted autographs or whatever and a security is like, you know, don't crowd him. Don't crowd him. Don't crowd him. And he just looked he was walking so gingerly. And I'm like, man, he's getting old. Sucks. Yeah, so me and Nick were talking about Nick brought it up. I didn't there was a shit ton. I didn't get on camera, but yeah. Yeah, he's getting old. So it's that if women were fans of Star Wars, which which other Star Wars actors are going to be a mega con, do we know? I mean, Gina, it's going to be like the Clone Wars. Ashley Eckstein, Atlanta. James Arnold Taylor. Well, so I think that you and I think a lot of the Mandalorian people are going to be there minus Pedro, obviously. But so I guess I don't know if Tomorra Morrison is going to be there. Oh, I'll be cool. He may be. I don't know. There's a massive guest list. But I'm pretty sure Jean-Claude Esposito is going to be there. Oh, Katie Sackoff. Is Katie going to be there? I don't want to say for sure. But they've also got some Ahsoka people there. I know Ezra is there. That's cool. He seems like a nice guy. I don't care much about you or whatever. Yeah, I don't care much for Ezra in terms of character. In fact, I care more about his character in live action than I did in animated, I think. And I think he wants us to better. For some reason, he just hits better for some reason. If women were fans of Star Wars in seventies, then they should be OK with the already massive female representation and presence in the stars. I don't know, dude, just don't don't ask me that shit. Anything I say, just anything I don't say gets turned into something. I don't mean they do say. Thanks, Katie. Onwards and upwards, man, don't worry about the haters. Let them hate. It will be their undoing and caramel will do. Oh, yeah, man. I don't even I pay no mind, dude. I have a very iron mind. It doesn't these things don't bother me. Whatever there is a the only thing that bothers me is. How much I actually love and appreciate women and I don't want anyone to ever try to insinuate that I don't. That's probably the only thing that actually bugs me. And from interviewing someone on my like psychology relationship channel. And she says women don't like Star Wars to be skewed into me saying women don't have a place in Star Wars. I think it's just asinine. I think it's slander. I think it's bullshit. And I don't stand for it. I don't agree with it. So if anyone wants to write articles about me and say that that's who I am, what I am and talk that's on them, I'm not here to change the world. I know who I am. So the people who know me know who I am. Yeah, when I saw those articles, I was like really excited. I'm like, he joined the club. Yes. But then you had to clarify things. I'm like, well, whatever. It's lonely. Yeah, well, you know, like Muller said, I'm making my way up the ranks in the Easts. Yeah, I collect them. You'll work your way to the phobes eventually. I'm like maybe one day. The sexism king and Ryan's the racist king. You got to come to our thrones and collect like a little token and then move on to the next level. It's like it's like Thanos collect all the stones. Mm hmm. Whenever there's a full new Star Wars content, you guys should review old non-Star Wars Lucasfilm productions. That's actually a lot. We'll just we need a Howard Duck review. Oh, OK. Sure. If you want to do like Indiana Jones or something, please. You don't want to do Howard the Duck. All right, man. OK. It's your opinion, I guess. Organized chaos and synthetic man. Who are these who are these people? Oh, my God, if you got those two together, that would actually be pretty hilarious. So they're a war. Let's just say they're about as crazy as each other on both sides of the spectrum. Where are they right now? YouTubers, but both like insane. Oh, send them a link. Fucking hell. Yeah, dude, send them a link right now. Chat, good. Go notify them right now. And if they're down, we'll send them right now. Go help them down to either of them care about Star Wars like at all. Oh, no, no, no, they're not. They're literally just people that hate me and Mahler. Oh, fuck. OK, I thought you got I thought they were like Star Wars people. Like one hates Ray, the other one loves Ray. I think organized chaos pretends to like so they might be that. But yeah, oh, shit, we should have led with that. OK, well, no, they just like I don't know, synthetic man. I don't know who that is. I've heard the organized gas guy. Synthetic, yeah, sometimes people send me like this guy called you this. I'm like, shocker, but get in line. Yeah, take a number. Take a number. Oh, someone just had a good suggestion. Get Grace Randolph on the stream. I'd be up for that. Sure. Yeah. Hey, talk to Grace about Star Wars. And that's a woman as well. So you'll be a little uncomfortable and afraid. All I got to do is show up and people will feel the words for me. The thing is, I think people hate her more than you. So do they? Maybe. I don't know. It's it's I don't know. I there's honestly, I feel like I have some whenever this shit happens. It's not publicized, but the amount of love that I get in DMs is absolutely ridiculous. It's so nice. It's kind of an unfortunate feedback loop of the way this whole thing works is that it encourages you to not be like to be bubbled or somewhat because because I think you as well as the I and others, we like to try and find alternative points of view. But like when you're dealing with a whole crowd of people that literally say stuff to you that's that you're just like, well, that's the complete opposite of me, though. And then you've got a different crowd of people who know you. Like, well, I'm going to hang out with a crowd that know me then. Like, there's no way I'm going to spend a time with people who just absolutely hate me and hate everything about me. And then I can like develop bubbles, I guess, what I'm trying to get at. Yeah, I know the I know what you mean about the bubble thing. But for me, I just I don't know, I just speak my mind and it always gets turned into some sort of thing and people just believe other people who talk about me. He said this. He said that. It's like, well, why don't you just ask me? You just talk to me and you'll see for yourself that it's not the case. But it's so much more lucrative for people to come up with a story or a rhetoric about me than to just like, hey, what do you mean by this? Did you actually know women don't like Star Wars? I never even said that. I never said anything. I literally, literally. I mean, if it were two women in that, if I was a woman in Saudi, I said that. And she did I as a woman did the same reaction. I'm like, oh, my God, nobody would bat an eye. But because it's me, it's all of a sudden now I'm saying women don't have a place in Star Wars. It is so unbelievably. It's not even nonsensical. It's just like you're. Is this like a fairy tale land? Like it doesn't even make sense. I can understand if like I said something, I didn't even say anything. So it's it's so strange. Part of it, though, right? And I assume this could be applied to us with maybe Disney or something. But everyone is much more unified and clear on when they have villains or people they can sort of just be like, you're there's nothing redeemable about this creature and we can all be unified and taking it down is to if you were a person with with like dimensions and different ideas and stuff that gets too complicated and weird and we don't like that. No, no, no, no. He's just a monster. That's much easier. Yeah, but no one really ever takes the time to just like actually talk to me. They just like throw insults or make fun or whatever. So it's fine. I. Oh, yeah, I've seen it. But I see it for all of us, honestly. I was telling Drinker about this. I saw a thread that was so fucking funny. It was can anyone catch me up on what is wrong about Molar and Critical Drinkers like that was like the thread title in two of the top comments. Well, Molar is friends with Critical Drinker. Then underneath that was Critical Drinker is friends with Mola. So it's just like it's just perpetual that point that it's pretty circular. Why? Why? What's wrong with these guys? They're friends with each other. Got it. Yeah, that's the problem. And then well, now that we're all friends, it's like, you know, just. Well, that'll be a big old triangle. It's like, do you know that Mola speaks to Ryan? Ryan speaks to theory. Theory speaks to more and we'll fucking reverse that whatever. It's just like, yeah, that's enough. The Triumvirid of Thanks, Ajani. I've seen a point this time. It feels like a new phenomenon. They'll do that. And then someone underneath will be like, oh, and also they and then makes up really crazy shit. And then someone underneath that will be like, oh, I always felt like I knew that about you know, I used to watch them, but I'm so glad I got out of that phase in my life. I was just an angry person, but now now I'm enlightened. I don't have to deal with that. It's like, oh, good for you. The entire premise of how that red started, though, it's like someone who doesn't know, they're like, hey, can somebody tell me what's wrong with all these people who has no idea about who you are, right? Right. Somebody tell me what's wrong and why I'm not supposed to like them. Yeah. Well, well, well, Ryan's racist. He hates black people. You know, like a Batman. It's like, what do they say about Mola? I don't even know what they say about you. OK, the main thing that gets said about me is who I talk to. That's the primary thing. It's always a fucking laundry list because I like talking to all kinds of people. Right. Yeah. Did you hear him talk to this? And I was going to say, you're the next one on my list, but that I'm also on your list now as someone. Yeah, we're on each other's list. Right. Yeah. No, I'm. Yeah, I don't even know what I'm more like a chameleon. So there's like a new thing every week and then it dies down. And I'm like, oh, cool. I'm not on the main news. Maybe I need to do something to fire up the analytics a little bit. It's so weird. I never get shit for anybody I talk to. Usually it's just other people to get shit for talking to me. Yeah, you're involved with the barrel. They're right. Yeah, it doesn't really get any lower. I'm like, I'm patient zero. Yeah, literally, literally. I see that Ministry of Wrong Think mentioned Faro let my women go. I have something I could put my Faro hat on if you guys want to be great. That's your buddy, Mal. Yeah, to Michael Douglas. I grew up with female characters raised the worst example, Star Wars Theory. I'm not a YouTuber, but having a chat with you would be an honor. Oh, yeah. Any time, dude. Hey, try to say I'm racist. I love your racist now. Did you know I'm part of Egyptian? Cool. I don't take offense to it. Why would you? I'm on the same. That's what you didn't even get the joke. You guys are becoming too woke and wokenized. Well, no, but we were we were in it. I was like, Ryan was definitely Ryan's never not fucking joking. This whole thing. I wish other people would get that, you know, instead of taking everything at face value, but yeah, I control like the Faro controls of women are allowed to be fans of Star Wars or not. So we'll see by the end of the stream what I think. And what do you think so far? Do they have a place? Pretty fifty fifty, to be honest, based on what I've seen. Geez, maybe one day. I have a great week, fellas. May the force be with you, especially during the unfortunate drama for barely alive news articles. Oh, yes. Very Prince Junior is a dope. I am not a fan of him. He's so angry, those clips that he says those things like what the fuck? You can't be that angry at that wrong. My favorite part is my favorite part of that is. Dave Filoni taught me everything about Star Wars and he got taught everything by George Lucas, so there that's literally his argument and that he proceeds to just spout bullshit. Yeah, it's like, dude, you're you got a pretty cool life. You're a good looking guy. You got a cool wife. You got literally Buffy as your wife. Like, why is it fucking depressed dick? What's wrong with you? You're so angry. It's weird. Yeah, I just don't like it when people purport that absolute nonsense about you're just upset that the money in Falcon is giving to a girl. Well, you can't say those things. It's just ridiculous bullshit. So is that a super chat seems to be about would Luke really have gone to the dock side if he had just killed the emperor? Probably not. I mean, the thing about it is like you just it really depends on the individual of like how you interpret the scene, I suppose, but that the implication I got was that he was teetering on enjoying the power. That's what like return of the Jedi covers a lot, right? Even from the beginning, Luke is experiencing a lot of a power burst. And we're not sure exactly where he's tapping it from. A lot of it seems to be frustration, anger, bitterness, maybe. And that he overcomes that sense near the end there. And the emperor is like, for fuck's sake. And that's why it's that's why it's so unique, right? It's not this. Well, to the end, just by the means of it's why are you taking these actions? Not the action you're taking. It's why are you taking these actions? If you're doing it out of selflessness or out of like defense or out of because of necessity, OK, but if you're doing it for revenge or to be cruel or whatever, that same action can have a very different ramifications indeed. Indeed, 310 of Palpy got out. A lightsaber and attacked him as Luke loved to kill Palpy in self defense. Unique anger. Yes, only if he is all the Jedi. You guys rock, keep on being your best selves. I'm so pumped, Mahler will be watching 2003 Clone Wars. Could you hop on EFAP minis for it? Yeah, anytime. So many things we get with editing that I would probably just watch it. And then we talk on Stargift about it is probably going to be the stuff we make. Yeah. And then he can clip that. Yeah, I mean, I'm home in a couple of weeks. So then we could, unless I should, I should be, but let's open in it. If either way, I'll just. Yeah, it's all good. Let me just watch it. Though Palpy is going to murder tons of people, killing him while he isn't currently holding a weapon attacking. Luke means Luke would lose free will. That's just in that moment. That's what Palpatine is commenting on is Luke's state of mind and what he's what's behind him as to why he's making the decision. I mean, he does go to swing for him, right? And Vedas, but then people are saying, oh, he was trying to save. And you know what the stupid book, which one was it? Goes in and like changes some shit around with the return of the Jedi, which really bugged me. Is this from a certain point of view? I think it is. I hate those ones. That's the same one where it made Luke like gay. I were made Luke attracted in the Empire Strikes back one where what? Yeah, yeah, because I know Obi-Wan's gay now, but I didn't know Luke was gay, too. What was gay? Empire Strikes back from a certain point of view. Everyone's gay. It's these stories about the from a certain point of view stories and these stories from like different random characters that takes place like a guy that walked by Han and Leia arguing and like in the hallway at Hoth, right? And like when in between them, it's like, what about this guy's? You know, a five minute story about his life and there's one where Luke is attracted to some fucking some random dude. Let's see if I can find it. Really? So yeah, there are those stupid ass ones where it's like random Joe blow off the street, walks by Java's stool sample in the gutter of Tatooine or something and like we'd get a story about his life. But then it's also dope ass stuff. Like there was one narrative set by Sam Whitmore, which I really liked regarding Vader having a dream about him as Anakin with Luke killing the emperor. And then he wakes up. I got that that was like such a dope fan fiction. So sometimes they do have really cool stories in there. Other times it's just pretty pointless and unsensical stuff. There was another one where it was a cute little tidbit where it was, you know, the blanket that Yoda has when he dies is quite on Jim's road. That's nice. Yeah, Ryan, question from Chad. Why do you watch Star Wars when you clearly don't enjoy it? Well, what have I said that I don't enjoy? I hate the existence of Star Wars because, Ryan, let me let me let me just interject here for you. Yeah, like I fucking hate those because it's like we love Star Wars so much that we are angry at the perversion that has become Star Wars in certain episodes, shows, movies, media, books, whatever it might be. And especially when there's a dumb ass comments like Charmine saying this time a woman shaped Star Wars, I think it's it's just showing that things are being so changed from what it once was, which was primarily actually not even primarily literally the only thing about it was telling good stories. That was fucking it. There was nothing else. Right. But now it's all about it's time a woman shaped Star Wars. It's a fuck off. Like, I swear to God, if I were to come on and say it's time a man shaped Star Wars, forget cancel, I wouldn't even have a YouTube channel. YouTube would take me out. You know, but it's totally acceptable. And this is what I don't get about the equality, which I'm all in favor of. That everything is OK for a woman to say. But if a man were to say it, it's completely irreversible and it's not acceptable, and that, I think, is the problem that we have in society where if one thing is wrong, it needs to be wrong. We can't say these things. The fuck, especially when it comes to Star Wars, let's just talk about a good story. Let's just make a good story. I don't care who you are as a director. I had this conversation with Nick. He thinks it's absolutely bullshit. That guy's most old school son of gun I've ever met. It's super ridiculous. And I hope that one day we can all agree on that, that we need to tell good stories with Star Wars and not focus so much about the gender of who is telling these stories. So for me, really the only thing that I really don't like from Star Wars before Disney bought it is the Clone Wars. I love I love the Star Wars movies. I love probably. 80. About 80 percent, probably of the expanded universe stories that are out there. There's some that are shit. You know, when you have 140, 150 novels, whatever the hell you're talking about. Not all of them are going to be bangers. Not all the storylines are going to be bangers. There's certainly some ones to suck. But for the most part, I love almost all of it. The vast majority of the video games that were published by LucasArts, I really enjoy. So, you know, it hasn't been until to me, Clone Wars. That's the controversial thing about me. I don't like Clone Wars, right? But then all the Disney stuff, there's almost nothing of enjoyment that I've been able to get out of it. So if you're talking about Disney Star Wars, I feel like they've taken it. They've taken something that I loved, like the franchise that I love more than anything else. And I think in a large part, they've destroyed it in a lot of ways. So, yeah, of course, I'm not going to like a lot of that. But then to add to the other reasons, part of it, all three of us, partly our job to watch, review and assess this stuff, a lot of the channels that have been built on. It's like keeping track. And I've seen someone use this phrase and I kind of like I want to implement it a bit more, but great keeping as opposed to gatekeeping refers to just like a quality assessment being like this should be this should be considered and supported and celebrated and pushed forward. And this shouldn't be. And that you do that as someone who's experienced with the IP or, you know, even if it is a perspective that someone will be like, you're not a professional, you haven't done this, you haven't worked for him, but it's like, oh, yeah, but like a lot of people are invested in my perspective and so I should provide it. It seems that that would be fair. By the way, this is just another reason on top of what Ryan said, on top of what Theory said. I feel like there's a lot that comes together for why we check out the new stuff they produce, even though we may be in a position of expecting not to like it. Yeah, we're still waiting for for the projects that come out that we can go. Oh, that was fucking awesome. Yeah, I mean, me too. So I did look it up. By the way, it was not a different point or a different point of view. It was Luke on the bright side, which is a short story published in stories of Jedi and Sith, and that was the center of that Wikipedia controversy where they put Luke under the LGBTQIA plus like list. And that was why because a one story from Sam Mags in that book where he had him basically being trapped like, I don't know if like some ice collapse or something, but I had him being trapped. It was on Hoth, which is why I thought it was from a different point of view or from a certain point of view, but him trapped there with like some random dude in a tunnel on Hoth. And then so he has a romance with a random dude. He has a romance. He has like fleeting romantic feelings. It's not like he kisses him or anything romance. Now, like, you know, we get stuck in here any longer. If we need to stay warm, I might consider fucking that dude in the ass. That kind of thing that you just got to read between the lines. All righty, then. Come wait for the. Animate adaptation of that. There you go. He's gone. He killed it. Imagine if imagine if the next Rolling Stone hit piece about that and they have to put this video together of me wearing this thing. And all the comments are like, can you please explain why he's wearing the Othcals? Like, I don't actually know why he's wearing that. So I do on my stream, on my streams, usually that I do every Sunday, I end up clipping like a couple of things out and like putting a standalone videos. There was one I did just with this on and I just went through the whole thing like I was just doing a normal video. I never acknowledged I was wearing it. I never explained it. I just clipped in and put it out and the comments were wild. You should have a bunch of different hats and headdresses or something. Yes, look, so for the record, I don't fuck the record. I don't care what character. Again, I don't care what gender they make a character. I don't care with sexual sexual preference or whatever. It doesn't matter to me. As long as he's a good character. But when they take pre-established characters that are known to be straight or gay or whatever and they change them, I don't understand the purpose of that. Like Obi-Wan Kenobi, we know he's straight. We know he's been with Satine. He's but all of a sudden he's now bisexual or something. It's I don't understand. And if like, let's say Qui-Gon Jane was gay and then they want to make him straight. Why? Why are we doing this? Why is there such a focus on that? Let's just focus on these characters and how they were pre-established by George. If they're new characters, cool. But I think, what was it, Holdo? I think Holdo is the first gay character, was it? Wow, great representation. I think so. So and that's the thing. First of all, there were gay characters in the expanded universe and have been for years before Disney took over. Yeah, that wasn't the focus of a lot of stories. And some of them, especially in Legacy of the Force, there's a Mandalorian couple, they're both dudes. And you almost like don't even notice it when you're reading because they're not making a big deal out of it. They're simply letting you know that these two dudes are married and have a family or whatever. Right. But to your statement about why do they do it to existing characters? The reality is they do it because if they create an original character, these people are such poor writers that no one will care about that original character. We've seen that over and over again. So it's not important. So what they do is they take a character that's known, they take a character as a fan base and they do they make that change one because people will notice and it'll just get more attention. And then it's like, hey, look at what we have. We have this now. It's almost like they've claimed a scalp, which is kind of weird. But that's how I see it, at least, because I just think it's too difficult for them to create original characters that people actually care about, to have authentic representation. Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, personally, I'm just of the philosophy that you're your sexual preference and your sexual identity is probably like the last, the least interesting thing about a human being. You know, so it's like I it's none of my business, right? It's it's a private matter. It's it's not my concern. You know, same goes for you, right? So it's like, I think we should just judge each other on who we are as people. And then when you're coming to writing stories, who cares what they do in their private life? Oftentimes, and on the context of the story being told, right? Like how relevant that will even be. But with Star Wars, it's like, I just don't even see why it's coming up ever. Well, yeah, like, like with Lando, now he has sex with robots. You know, like, yeah, that didn't add anything to solo. Like, how does that help? How does that help me? How does it help the character when they say he fucks his robot? Why, you know, it's really horny in case you didn't notice already when he tries to hit on Leon. Well, yeah, literally in front of home, it's like, well, OK. That's like a power play, right? Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah. What I got from revenge of the Sith palp hid in the light. He knew both the light and the dark side studied him both while using the light, he remained on the tech. No, I don't think so. I think I did it with the dark side or whatever. Literally clouded the shit out of everybody who has powers. Pupps there. Six out of 10, bro, you got 10. Yeah, I think you just caught on to that after you've gone to literally five of there has I have maybe slept like a few hours the last several days and I have like mucus stuck in my brain. I'm like very slow today. Nice. So I think if Luke had killed Palpy right then and there, he'd stay the same person. I think it's wonky storytelling and wonky movie. So if he fights Vader and then just chops him into pieces, like the what the attitude and motivations that would require him to go that far would likely have meant that he's like, you know, started down a path now that would allow him to do it to Palpatine, do it to anybody that ever crossed him or he ever thought was out of line. Like that's that's the concern we have for Luke. And him refusing to do that with Vader is an outright like I'm drawing a line. I ain't crossing it sort of thing. It's a very spiritual and character based thing, as opposed to a literal like, but killing Vader is good and Palpatine is good because they're bad guys. So it's a bit more than that because the prior one said like, well, so Yoda would have gone to the dark side if he'd killed Palpatine or vengeance. It's like, no, I don't think so. Yoda is like strictly there almost as a, you know, the paladin of like the Jedi order he's coming there to stop Big Batman. While Luke on the other hand is still a Jedi in training for the most part, right? He still went entirely short exactly where his paths going to go. Yoda is like 900 or something. He's he's been, you know, he's been kicking on for a while and everything. I mean, he only learned to talk after he was 500. But because I could work out you're right. And that's one of the things I actually really liked some stuff that they took in the expanded universe and the new Jedi order series, which is a little bit controversial. Some people Star Wars got a little dark then and some people didn't really like what necessarily happened. One thing I really liked about Luke's arc in that is that he is so scared of his students falling to the dark side and himself being tempted that he ends up being so he doesn't want to engage unless it's like purely defensive, right? Because he remembers those lessons, seeing what the dark side can do to people. And he doesn't want to be the aggressor for fear, not just for himself, but also for all of his students that that they can lead them to be susceptible to falling to the dark side. And you see him really struggle with that and that's kind of his failure. That's his weakness is that he's so fearful of the dark of his students falling to the dark side, he kind of has to overcome that and be open to like doing what needs to be done and having trust in his students, having trust that he's trained in the right way. And then that's how the kind of rest of that series takes off. So that's what you to me, that's what you have to do to a character like Luke, is you take those things that are like we've seen play out that are his inherent strengths and tweak that into you can see how that might become a weakness if he's too unwilling to come to battle and waits too long. And instead, what we got was you know, due to his sitting there thinking about slashing his nephew in his sleep. Well, to be fair, I've done that with family members of Bad Dreams. Yeah, of course. People like, well, you know, he didn't actually do it. Well, he was but he was standing there thinking about it. He was thinking about it. Well, and he was ashamed of having thought about it. And Kylo reacted to the act of it for trying to kill him. So the idea that this is some chill moment of a casual thought is it ain't. Oh, what a mess that moment was. That's probably where Star Wars died, wasn't it, that scene? I saw somebody say, how did Ray get pregnant with Kylo's force baby? I actually have a listen. If Lucas films listening, if you're still working on the script for the Ray movie, I have something I think could be very compelling. I want Kylo to have impregnated Ray Skywalker, you know, force impregnated her life force as a baby going in there. But because Ray's so broken up about everything that happened, she seeks comfort in the arms of Finn immediately in the aftermath of Ben Solo dying and they have sex. So she's actually has twins. One of them is black and one of them is white. One of them is Finn's baby. The other is Kylo's baby. And really this is a story about how them as brothers with different skin color get together and save the galaxy. So the I will approve the story if they can have a false battle in the womb. There you go. I'd love that. That's my pitch. Do it. Come on. I want to see it. Great time to walk in. I'm a little probably at a big of a hate, Dave. Ryan, I'm really looking forward to hanging with you, man. I'm a couple of weeks here. Yes, it's going to be fun, dude. Yeah, yeah, it's going to be good to see you. Who else is coming? Gary drinker, critical drinker is going to be there. Gary is going to be there. Some of his crews are like extra girl in quarter black. Garrett will be there. Obviously, you know, Jay is going to be there. Yeah, we're supposed to hang out. I was going to Disneyland, Disney World. X-ray is going to X-ray girl is going to be there. Yeah, it's going to be fun. Yeah, I think I think this bruise coming. I don't know when he's going to be there, but yeah, this bruise coming over at some point. Who? This bruise, he's a British creator. Yeah, cool. On this note, by the way, about Dave, I'm curious if I wouldn't have to do a single thing. I have a feeling Dave's going to ruin his own reputation in the next few years. It's going to crash and I disagree. Oh, well, you know what, pin it, everybody. Check back in three years time or so. Back in three years time. Should we put a bet on it? What do we bet? Easy, yeah. So the bet to be absolutely crystal clear is that you are going to think less of him as an artist after his next like however many Star Wars projects. To be fair, I don't want to put like three years on it just in case he releases nothing in three years. Then I would be like, oh, well, I'm fucking make sense. Well, whatever is his movie, let's say. Yeah, after his movie. OK. Alrighty, I was trying to put on it. Wait, Ryan, where would you fall on that? I've had the lowest opinion of Dave Filoni literally since 2008. So when I get the other people, what does he think? Oh, 100 percent. I can tell you when I first came on YouTube in 2019 is when I started my channel, whenever I used to criticize Dave Filoni, I would get so much pushback from people that was like usually my worst like the worst feedback was when I was saying what I felt about someone like Dave Filoni. Four years later, completely different story. There's still some people that certainly are going to that certainly defend him. But now that we've seen the scope of his work outside of cartoons and I think it's getting exposed to a larger audience, you have a much different perspective coming from people and I can tell you that his reputation has decreased significantly over the past four years, because more people now are familiar with this work. That's to me, that's like the bottom line is more people have seen it. Right. I could see that. Well, people like you didn't even bet you didn't even put anything. I was like, I saw someone suggest we could put like a saber on the line. I'll I'll buy another one if I lose. Every fucking year, if you lose, you've got to buy me a saber. Malarbonne, Annie, episode three. Thank you, Malar, appreciate that. Oh, hell yeah. Well, the Dark Apprentice one, right? You're good. What? No, yeah, yeah. I'm pretty sure I got that one. I didn't get the shadow one. You didn't get any three? No, no, I got Dark Apprentice. Oh, that one's sick. It is sick. Yes. It's got the crystal inside, which will close. So in and whenever he releases his Mando movie, we'll ask if your opinion of him has gone up or down. And if it's down, then I get to have a hand to go. Let's say. No problem. Yeah. OK. OK, you. OK, you buy one or I send you one. Right. Mm hmm. I can have a minus of this. No matter who comes out. What's that? I could be dead in three years. Don't you think so, Ryan? It'll be fine. My hate will sustain me. Exactly. Yeah. You're a fucking pharaoh hat. Except I have an asshole and can poop. So it makes more sense for me to stay alive than him. I highly doubt Luke would be weak enough to let the killing of the most evil man in the galaxy dramatically change his life. It's kind of like looking at the reverse direction, not to keep talking about this. But you're seeing it as like killing Palpatine. Why would that make a person evil? It's like, it's not really about that. It's it's Luke's motive to commit to the action. I think Ryan was saying that earlier as well. Yeah. Was it the whole time? Oh, no, I was just I was just adjusting. I never noticed the snake. I just see the snake now. Yeah, it's gorgeous and cold. It's cool. Are you going to bring it with you in Florida? Yeah. I'm in Orlando. Oh, OK. In Orlando right now. Cool. And then like to this comment. Yeah, of course, people can be we literally see you have five minutes after it. Well, 10 minutes, 20 minutes, whatever. We see Vader redeemed, but it's not about that. I also think that person. Everyone is different in terms of their susceptibility to like light and dark. I don't think it's like the same for everybody. So there are some people who are just like stalwart and some people who are like really shaky and then some people will probably like fuck the light side. Dark side all the way, baby. I hate to put Ryan on the spot, but also I love it. Ryan, you can also say no. But chat, how much would you like it if Ryan were to become a regular Stargrip Mondays? This is what he does, right? He does it live so that you can't escape. Would you be asking me or asking the chat? I'm asking chat. Fuck you. You have a choice. Well, your chat, I am like the last Jedi to your chat. There are some I mostly don't I mostly don't look at it, to be honest. But when I do, it's just like some of you guys want me to actually fucking die. Spam, my vote is yes, by the way. And I count like half of chats vote or whatever. So I think that we're already up to 50 percent, at least. But I was going to say as well on top of that, I think that, Ryan, you are super controversial to his chat. But it's funny because you've been softening a lot of your opinions. I'm more than aware of that. And to be honest with you, so am I. Oh, yeah, it's the way it's how you. I think you suffered yours as well somewhat theory in terms of like me. You're more susceptible and like like chill with harsh criticism. You try and meet them halfway. We all are, but like as time goes on, we'll probably be more harsher, maybe with my friends. Exactly. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. If I'm on my channel, like talking to my chat, like I'm not going to like hold back at all. I might use some hyperbole because everybody there is familiar with me and like my takes when I'm here. Obviously there's a lot of people that don't know me. So I'm going to give my actual take, but I might, you know, present it in a way that's maybe more appealable to somebody who fucking hates my guts. What's wrong with that? It's like in our respective home bases, like on eFab, Dave Filoni is seen as like a child who can't write anything. But here I'm like, well, I'll be clear. I understand that he has a point of view that he's learned from this and that and he's done this and achieved this, but I think he's failed here, here, here as time goes on. The three of us can probably be a little more honest or not even honest, a little more brash, because the audience will have a better and better understanding of how we speak and how we think. The poll is up, it was. So go vote. The poll? I love that you just try to trap Ryan. Bro, the reaction to the reaction to was it was the last week when I was just like, when needs to happen to a baby. I don't like, he just needs to fucking die. It's like, hey, you need to be a little more brash. I already, I agreed with you. That's why I was like, put him in a meat grinder or something. I was like, whoa, I don't recall saying that, but I certainly could have. Well, the thing about that one too is that it's not even a harsh hot take because a lot of people in Chad believe he should be killed as well. I think it's, you know, our heart is take. Sometimes we're not even sure which ones it'll be. We'll see. My hot take was that I gave the Batman an eight out of 10. That's like my historic hot take. Well, you're now at 600 votes. That's pretty good in a minute. I guess I got to do it. I don't, I can't commit to, I can't commit to every single week, but I will, I will try to be here. I'll try to be here. Two o'clock, PT, five o'clock EST every Monday. Wait, so the time you guys started today, is that our normal time now? Yeah, let's do that as a normal time. Okay, okay. I need to like absorb that information because I was, I was so fucking confused today because I think I'd agreed to it, but I forgot I agreed to it. Yeah, I probably should have updated you. I'm sorry. I didn't sleep and then I ended up pulling paypal at fucking six in the morning. He was nine in the morning a year and then I went, went, got breakfast and I came back to bed and I'm like, oh shit, it's time for starter. Let's start. Oh shit, the bad batch is out. Oh, okay. You know what's crazy is that I just noticed as I looked at ever since I ever since I put this hat on, I don't look as yellow. It's like it changed the white balance. I don't look as jaundiced as I did before I put this on. Yeah, no, yes. Great. But I look fucking yellow. Dying, dude. And before he keeps this on all the time now. I would love it if he did. That's balanced. There we go. It's okay. He's better lighting than what the fuck I got going on. And I will just use this horrible. Look at this. I got this like random light hanging over my head here. And I ended up breaking back. I got this lamp shade over here. I don't know what I'm doing with this thing is figuring shit out. Does this microphone even sound good? Yes, that's all right. It doesn't sound as good as it should, I think, right? Because it's a show microphone. Yeah, I don't know what's going on. Well, yeah, is that just a USB connector? Yeah. USB-C. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It should sound better. Before you came on, Mahler, I don't know what the fuck he was using earlier. But then he grabs that. It sounded like shit when he first plugged it in. It sounds better now. Well, you see when I arrive, quality just cranks all the way up. Even other people's microphones. Mahler's always cranking it. He's cranking his willy. So if Luke tried to kill him while in a state of calm, he'd be okay. In theory, yeah. If Luke was to execute Palpatine to prevent something really bad from happening or whatever in a calm way, but not like that scene is a really bad example. Because Palpatine's like, look, look at all your friends out there getting fucking killed. How does that make you feel? And Luke's like, oh, yeah, not great. Not great, actually. You know, it's not like he's not a good state of mind to make a decision. It's literally just like Intervenge of the Sith when Palpatine is like sensing how much Anakin hates him and how much he wants to kill him. It's like that same exact feeling. You know what I mean? Yeah. The term light side was never mentioned in the OG films. I always assume the force wasn't dualistic, but the dark side was just the force corrupted for our balance. I'm inclined to agree. Yeah. Can I try something here? Let me know. Do it. Do you want to? Last time he did this, he just like pulled the plug and muted himself. How does this sound? Does it sound better? It's such a little nub of a microphone. Yeah, it's like, man, that's a big old condom for that. It's not even meant for this thing. Couldn't find it. Yeah, does this sound better or does this sound the same shit? So it's kind of the same. I'm fine with that and always better going in raw. Yeah, rather than have some big ass thing in my place. I'd rather have a small penis in my face than a big one. As a man, yeah. Even if he killed Palpatine anger, it's a righteous anger, isn't it? Not all anger is born of malice. Can't the dumb force distinguish the two? All right, to end this, if he had killed Palpatine, he may have been able to not go crazy and start using the force to dominate with power and kill everyone or everything. He may have been like, I'm okay. I'm balanced. I understand. I'm blah, blah, blah. But the character himself was like, I ain't striking someone down in the state of being that I am. I'm instead going to follow my father's footsteps, knowing what he knew before he turned and everything. It's not just the mechanics of the force or what could happen to him. It's so primarily focused on Luke, what Luke is thinking at the time, what Luke knows and what decisions he feels he needs to make, especially staring at his father, knowing that he made the mistake when he was faced with the same decision. Thank you, Jesse. I still... What? I was just thanking the super chatter for his 10 super chats. Yeah. Yeah, dude. Thank you for that. I personally think that if Luke had killed him, he wouldn't have been like, okay, now I'm going to join you, dad. I'm part of the dark side. I don't think that's where it worked. No, I don't think that that's what the film is arguing either. I think it is trying to say that Luke will now use anger and force to engage with what he believes is right, to the point where a layer or a harm could be like, oh, we need to do this, and he's just like, no, you'll do this, and you'll do this. And it's just like, okay. That's what happened to Vader. Now, he got misled and convinced that this would be right for the galaxy, but he decides to use the dark side to further what he believes is the right thing for the galaxy and for the people he cares about. Right. Yeah. Yoda himself says the Sith must be destroyed in order to bring balance. The entire prophecy that Anakin would bring balance to the force makes no sense if the force automatically balances. Correct. Which is why I'm saying that mortis doesn't make sense. And why that's my interpretation of what George is saying. I'm with you on that, but the people who would make that statement would then respond with that is the force, automatically balancing by bringing Anakin in to do what he does. Like, that's probably how they would frame that. Yes, but by balancing it, he doesn't make sure there's an equal number of Sith in the Jedi, right? That's not what the chosen one does to bring balance. The chosen one erases the dark side to bring balance. Yeah, because there's actually no more Sith at that point that we know of, right? Correct. Now, of course, that gets a little sketchy as you continue on. Yeah, because there's going to be more and more and more. There'll be like, actually, there was a guy called Grumbo who has three lightsabers on his face and he would kill him, too, because he was... Yeah, Grumbo, the last surviving Sith. The last Grumbo. But that's why I mean, that's why I interpreted that way from not only what George is saying, but also from the way it was described, like all the way up through everything for several decades of Star Wars storytelling. All right, we got a thousand votes, over a thousand votes. 88% say, yeah, let's have Ryan. I guess there's no more choice now. The will of the people. The wills. The wills of the forest must bring balance. And I think I am here to bring balance to this podcast. All right, Bendu. By eliminating the Sith. All right, go, go, boy. Bendu has proved the force isn't female. Sorry. Yeah, what about that? Did we ever ask Bendu his pronouns? Now you see Ahsoka limp out of the temple, as well. That was the video we played. Were that far back? Yeah, yeah. So if you remember, like, when Ezra pulls Ahsoka in season four, she's about to get sliced by Vader. Right. My interpretation is Ezra prevents that from happening. Ahsoka goes back to the world between worlds in an opening that is in that same time and place. That's her, like, after. So why did that always play? If she's limping out at the end and we're like, oh, so she's alive. Why have the will between wills thing at all? Exactly. And there's a thing like, it's not like Ahsoka comes back in season three or finds her way back. She's out. Everyone thinks she's dead and has been dead for years. Yeah, so that was always confused about it. I'm like, well, if she's all right, then what's, what, it's not believable that Vader couldn't kill her? Yeah. And that, that's kind of why. Or is it just left to interpretation? Like maybe we're just supposed to be like, well, who knows what happens? I just follow me. I know he likes to leave shit to interpretation. It's true. I like that. I don't mind it. As all great storytellers do. That could be used as a generous shield, I think, at times. It could be, yes, for sure. He does not like to give like hard definitions on shit like that. He's always like very squirmy. Like, well, I, you know, it really just depends on your, on your point of view. Yeah, but I love that. I actually like that kind of stuff because it's like, oh, cool. Like, okay, so I can kind of like go any way I want with this sort of thing. Yeah, your name's literally fucking Star Wars Theory. Of course you like that. Well, yes. Sorry, I want to be able to use my imagination a little bit. But I have no imagination. No, I know you want direct answers. Well, I'm still more in between. Do you ever do a thing on Inception? Like a video or coverage or anything? Yeah, because the end to that is totally up to interpretation. Oh yeah, I hate the ending of Inception. But that, the thing is ambiguity in ending like the thing is probably one of my favorite horror movies of all time. And that's a hyper ambiguous ending. Well, depending on who you talk to, it's hyper ambiguous. Then you have like Blade Runner being depending again on who you talk to, ambiguous as to whether or not it's a replicant. I'm trying to think of like other famously classic sort of stories that kind of would Joker, 2019 Joker, whether they were like, you know, as the end, how much of it happened in his head, how much of it was real. Again, I want to make sure because fucking shagging it triggered. It's like, no, it's down to every individual. What I'm saying is the fact that there's a big fight between people as to whether or not one ending or the other one suffices, you could argue there's an ambiguity for those. Wait, you think in Joker with working Phoenix that a lot of that was happening in his head. There are people who run that theory because of how the film closes out. But for me, personally, I think all of it happened, you know. Yeah, like there's obviously some that clearly he did have in his head, but the, the brutality will like once he figures that out and snaps out of it, like he understands that I think all that's real and how it ends is real, which is, but the way it ends. And this is why I hate that we're getting a second one. The way it ends is so perfect because what is up in the air is what the fuck happens to the city after this, right? We don't need a second one. We don't need it. And I hate, I hate that we're getting a second. Oh, Ryan, what if it's good though? Would leave Lady Gaga. Yeah. Well, Mahler, what if it's bad? That would be the time where I am like, well, we shouldn't have got this. But if it's good, I'll be like, oh, no, hold on. I don't think alien never should have got a sequel. So really terminates and never should have got a sequel. Can you please explain to me how there are moments that made you believe that it could have been all just like in his head? Because in the end, he's just standing on that cab or that cop car. Was it a cop car, I think? And he's, well, if you remember, it's all framed as like, he's talking to a psychiatrist or whatever. And then he came to the end or, you know, how much of it do you 100% believe? This is part of the problem, actually, because now I'm saying like, it's a musical. People say it as to why it's evidence that it would be bad. It's like, they're good musicals. So calm down. But also, you know, how he imagined the girlfriend. He imagined a whole relationship with her. It's like if that was confirmed in his head, then it's like, so is it going any further than that? And I think there's a couple of visual cues. I don't know if it was like with clocks or something, that there's things that are out of whack in certain shots deliberately. And so some people theorize that all of it was in his head, but that were like a fantasy or that some of it was. Like I said, I prefer thinking that most of it was real. Yeah, I think it's yeah. I always thought it was real. I don't know if that's an interesting theory, though. I like that. I like that kind of stuff. I like theory channels. Joker theory. Well, do you guys see the theory of Kevin McCaus to grown up is jigsaw? That's fun. What? No, that's hilarious. That's amazing. People are way to any of these connected universes now. I love that. That would make so much sense. That like we saw his beginnings. The beginnings of like these ways to like torture people, put them through these games was like everybody walking through his house and home alone. That's fucking awesome. I would do it. I would love to watch that video. There's a video. Yeah. Yeah. There's a video for that. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I'm going to watch that. Did we watch the Whittler-Sacoff interview where he admitted to working on a secret project with Ron Moore? No, let's see that. That was on Katie Sackoff's YouTube channel. Oh, cool. While there's critique, series of the sequel trilogy is legendary. Long, though. Yeah, I was talking to someone last night. She's a big fan of your channel. She says she's watched that video three times over. Which one? It's like a sad one. It's the 11-hour one. Which one? I don't fucking know. I don't watch all your 11-hour shit. I'm not going to sit there. I love you, but goddamn, I'm not going to sit for 11 hours. All right. I give it a thumbs up regardless. Cool. Yeah, I do. Sure. Well, I'll drag it to the end, you know. No, I didn't mean that. I mean, I feel I'm happy to hear that someone's enjoying it, is what I mean. Oh, no. I'm obviously going to help my voice analytics. I appreciate it. YouTube, I watched the whole thing. OK. Don't wait. Not Force Awakens, Mahler. The only thing I want you to do before you die content-wise is finish your Force Awakens critique. You and fucking everyone else. I'll get to it. The big reveal of that is literally just I'm desperate to try and work on things that just calamities happen, where an editor is working on a project and something goes horribly wrong. And so I'm like, I'll help you out. And then fucking a month goes by and I'm like, oh, shit. I haven't been able to work on anything else. Lord of the Rings messed everything up. But man, was that video worth it, though? How long does it take to make those 11-hour videos? Obviously, it's a stream. Like 12 hours and then with editing. Oh, is it? You're right. But if it's fully edited, the longest I've spent on a fully edited video was seven months, I think. Jesus Christ. World Between Worlds was the Deus Ex Machina to save Ahsoka because she can't beat Vader and Florida knows that. Again, though, I thought that the implication from the original was just that the building fell and they both sort of got separated. Adding the will between wills to be like, see, that's how she escaped. Feels like it creates more problems that it solves. Right. That's what I also thought, too. I'm like, OK, something must have happened and they separated at some point. Thoughts on theory? Palpatine using the world between worlds to escape the exploding Death Star. God. He opened it. He opened a portal to the world between worlds as he was falling down. You know who else did? Fucking mole as he was falling down. The rise of sky with the book said was that while he was falling, his soul already went into the fucking vessel on Exegol before his body hit the ground. I just, I don't know. I get that everyone likes Palpatine. He's a really fun bad guy, but maybe he dies. No, don't change. Yeah, he's dead. George wanted him dead. He's dead. Well, it's crazy because this was in the expanding universe, Dark Empire, very controversial because they also had a clone of Palpatine and it was using Force Essence Transfer and like all these things. And when that came out, people like, there was a big split. That's like historically, when you go back, that's one of the more controversial things. Now, George did approve that storyline. What they wanted to do was have somebody running around in Vader armor for that storyline and use that as a way to get Luke Skywalker involved. George vetoed that but said it can be a Palpatine clone. But that was set up a little bit differently. Luke engages it completely differently. And now when you look back at that, people are like, God, it wasn't too bad when they did this, was it? Compared to what they decided to do for Rise of Skywalker. But it's just funny that they ripped off a plot line and did it so much worse. Riva was worse version of that chick from Jennifer on Order and Hux became a worse version of Agent Callas from Rebels. Older ideas made worse. They do a lot of that. Apparently Hayden Christensen is rumored to be voicing Shadow of the Hedgehog. Shadow of the Hedgehog on the new Sonic. Yeah, I heard about this. I hope that's true. I want them to name it Sonic, Shadow of the Hedgehog. I need him to call Sonic a liar at some point. Shout it at him. Darth Bane versus former Master Kasim is my favorite lightsaber duel outside of episode one to six. Do you guys have a favorite duel outside of the movies? Yeah, mine would be Luke Skywalker versus Jason Solo. And basically just a little bit before Legacy the Force ends. I fucking love that duel. Both of them end up prefucked up. And ironically, Luke has Jason dead to rights, but he doesn't kill him because his son is watching and his son wants to be the one to fucking he really wants him dead. And Luke realizes that I can't fucking kill Jason, even though he's such a big threat, I can't kill him right now because I can't have my son watch that happen. And I might fucking follow the dark side if I do it right now, too, because this is after, well, I'd be spoiling a lot of Legacy the Force. But I'll just put it that way. Seeing those guys go toe to toe is great. Probably that fight for me in the Plagueis novel where Palpatine goes to actually save Plagueis. And he's like going through that. He's climbing that vent and then he drops in in this room full of these... Fuck, who was it? It was these very rich... It was supposed to be the secret society of people and Plagueis was getting indoctrinated, but they were all actually assassins. Dude, he literally sets the place on fire and kills massacres everybody. Just uses the Force to explode people. Just fuck, yeah, X-Men shit. I also like how you see Plagueis gets injured in that and one of his hearts stops beating. And they really go into detail about how the moon physiology and what he's doing help keep himself alive and shit. Yeah, I really like that book a lot. I think it's really cool. I was quite fond of seeing that final fight between Mole and Obi-Wan. You mean the two-second fight? Yeah, I don't know if it counts as a duel or not, but... Of course it counts, yeah, for sure. Seeing that out of context that I was told this is not representative of the quality of the show. It's wrong, but I was like, oh, okay. But this is kind of cool though. You know, if you're stuck with... Darth Maul is definitely alive, then that seems like a pretty strong ending again. Yeah, wow. Maybe he's alive again and again. Striking a balance. Maybe Riva finds him in the desert. Striking a balance is vital. Excessive devotion to the light side leads to strictness. Like the Jedi ban on marriage, a fundamental human need. This aspect of Jedi shows corruption and distortion. Can't wait for Admiral Hldo beating Thrawn in a suit. I wouldn't count it out, honestly. I really wouldn't. We're getting Hldo, right? And she'll be like a plucky, aggressive officer that's gonna actually do really well. She's actually like best friends with Hera. Yeah, why wouldn't they do that? That's right in line with everything else. The book, Supernatural Encounters, might provide insights into this. However, it's considered canon, non-canon, possibly part of the EU. Yeah, Supernatural Encounters is gonna be a hybrid, to be honest. I know they're using a little bit of Disney lore in there as well. Essentially, a bunch of unpublished shit that they've discovered and they're trying to get out. My favorite thing listening to this is realizing how gay Star Wars is. So when we were sitting there arguing over how exactly the daughter died and how exactly the son died and all this shit. I love that shit. There's a clip where Dave Filoni said George Warren is so good at dying cloners. Yeah, I know. Never catch you guys live. Glad I did. Love the podcast of Spotify from Melbourne. That's really it. What's up, Phillip? Thanks, man. Thanks for catching the podcast. If they pull off ventures, coming back. Did they gotta pull off ventures live action? That's what we need. Yeah, there's really not enough strong female characters and Star Wars right now that could really use another. I mean, technically, there really isn't. I know you're being sarcastic, but I actually know I fully agree with that. There's no good ones. No, there aren't. I think the actual good characters are already written by George. I don't think is there one good character besides Jim Urso? This is like an OK character written by Disney. A good female character. Kira was all right. Rose Tico, obviously. She was great. She almost cost the entire rebellion their lives. Bro, I wish I like. When I went to see solo in theaters, the theater was empty. I really wish I could have been there with like just a room full of people when Darth Maul showed up. Ninety five percent of them have no fucking idea why Darth Maul is there. Yeah, right. Because they didn't watch Clone Wars. Oh, wait, are we including everything from Disney? You ask him because, yeah. I mean, pretty much everyone in Andal that has significant screen time is pretty strong. And you've got plenty of women in there. But the thing is Mon Mothma isn't original. Or I can't remember all their names. I keep forgetting the fucking Kino Lloyd's name. It's such a fucking Star Wars name. All the Star Wars names, like if you need to repeat them a couple of times before they like embed in your brain sometimes, it's always like Jimbo John, that sort of that format. Grumbo. Yeah. Grumbo. Grumbo. It's not easy to remember. That's what Job makes Georgia so strong as a character. It's very easy to remember. Binker, you know, the Binkster. That sort of thing. Binkster. What do you have? You know, some of the names that you just fucking forget. What's the female Imperial officer's name? What's her name? Diedra. Oh, did you have? Oh, yeah. That's got a Diedra Miro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, Star Wars name. Yeah, that's like when I start up co-tour and I just hit a random name generator, like Diedra Miro or whatever. You just want to have someone who's just like, I'm John. Like, oh, hey, man. Do you think Survivor's Guild can be enough of a consequence of Dunwall? Huh? I don't understand. I guess they're just trying to say is giving someone Survivor's Guild after resurrecting them enough to justify doing that. Basically, whenever you resurrect a character, you want to have a cost. That's the best way to try and justify it from an audience standpoint because something needs to be taken. You can't just give it all back. It ruins the... The payoff. So, yeah, maybe you could work with that. What's up, Matty? That's it right there. People working on Star Wars have no idea what they're doing. A bunch of people who have left Star Wars for its success to enhance their own careers. Star Wars Theory and Maul have y'all seen the 1997 Perry, of course. Troops is like the number one fan film as one of the originals. I have not. I like... Ryan, do you think you could pull it up? True. Let me see. I like how the sequel is one. Maybe we'll watch it another time. I like how the sequels insist the galaxy was at peace during the 30-year gap between 6 and 7, yet the Disney Plus shows have these crazy galaxy-changing events occur. What did they accomplish in the OT? Yeah. Well, it's just trying to create the remnants, right? So, they're trying to continue the story. It was a really big mistake to set everything up, like, oh, yeah, like a year and a half after returning the Jedi. That's when the last battle was fought and there was just nothing else after that. It's so insane to imagine that, that with all the control that the Imperials had over the entire galaxy, despite their leadership crumbling, despite Palpatine being gone, it would take so long to model all that shit up. And to me, that's one of the biggest faults that they had was making it so a year or two after returning the Jedi is when the last thing is fought and then everything's peaceful to the point where they demilitarize. Even though it puts you into a fucking bind for any storytelling in between there. Even at the end of the Clone Wars, erasing most of the Separatist leaders, a lot of the Star Wars stuff that came between three and four said, well, you still got some Separatists in different places that you got to deal with. I was going to, we were talking about the 501st last week, I think, the storyline in Battlefront II. It's like, what they basically do is clean up after the Clone Wars because there's plenty of different pockets of people doing different crazy things. And yeah, the Empire would be more poised to do that than even the Separatists were. Wouldn't be the first time. What was worse, sequels or Game of Thrones final seasons? Sequels. Ask these difficult questions. Is Star Wars just way more embedded so the damage feels more significant? But I mean, they were pretty surgical in the final season of Game of Thrones. They destroyed everything. And that's not it. That's not easy. No, it's not. It's tough because people very much like think they have a reason for it. It's like, well, Dan and Dave ran out of story. Like they ran out of George's things. And people still are like, I can't wait till George finishes. I mean, wins a winner will probably come out after he fucking dies. We'll get like an unfinished script. We're never going to see Dream of Spring. But like, there's still so much. It feels like it pretty easy to separate those two things for people. But I don't know. And also, I honestly thought that after the bad taste of Game of Thrones left in my mouth for season seven and eight, kind of half a six, that I was going to hate House of the Dragon. I've never been more pleasantly surprised by a series than House of the Dragon. I cannot wait for season two, dude. It's going to be dope. Yeah. Well, we'll be covering that together with Gary, right? I think. Yep. Have you read Fire and Blood, Maul? For Maul? But. Hey, Dave. So, well, I made a decision. I was like, I could read it, but at this point, I think my preferred format is now going to be watching the show. And Gary was saying that it's more enjoyable as a format as well, because the Fire and Blood is like a history, right? Like a description rather than a story. Yeah. Fire and Blood is basically a Cliff Notes version of Westerosi history. Yeah. And it's told from three slanted perspectives. So it's very tough to figure out which one is real, which one is exaggeration, blah, blah, blah. Something about format change that happened was when we did the coverage of the first few episodes, me and Gary, he was just flooding in spoilers, as far as I remember. I wasn't paying any attention really, because I didn't know anything about it. And I was just like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what we'll go. Yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's what I care to do. As the episodes went on, I would stuff be like, you know, Dave is really awesome. He's like, oh, yeah, just wait until I was like, you know, you don't need to tell me. And then I think even people in chat, more and more people who would start to like the show are like, yeah, don't fucking talk. Don't even speculate based on the book. So that's going to be weird, because you guys are going to have to save that for your own stream, maybe, if you want to speculate based on knowing what happens. We'll see. I feel like the only clones to make it out of season three will be Gregor, Rex, and Wolfie. Hence why they were the only ones alive and rebels. And they would be very possible, but I don't see them killing off the entire Bad Batch team. That would just be kind of weird. And that one random one that Obi-Wan ran into on that planet. I was more interested in that fucking dude's story than any of the rest of the Obi-Wan series. Yeah, I remember being like, oh, what does that mean? What's that? Oh, nothing. Okay. Yeah, literally nothing. Thanks, Deborah. Yeah. Thanks, Joby Harold. Well, we say that now, and then like the next hour's announcement, spin-off, like Toonie, the clone that you saw in this. Toonie. We're going to get a 13-episode Disney Plus series. We're spending $300 million on it. Yay. He's going to have like a female companion who's better than him. He's spending $1 billion on it. He's like, why? On Toonie, the clone. It's just desert. And then it's just like this nice, cat-ful Rufus. Yeah. And Rufus falls to the dock side and he's like, no Rufus, please. And they're like, we're not sure if there's going to be a season two yet. Fads are mixed on it. Yeah. We're going to sit there speculated about Toonie season two. And no, I see that's a theory guy. He made so many videos already about it. Fucking people are about to be weighed as well. Wait. Yeah, that was unfortunate. I love the idea that he said Darth Uchi. Somebody said Darth Uchi Disney Plus series. Uchi's got an interesting story. I want to know about him. Rip weighed, man. Yeah. Pulling out for weight. Like I said, 98% of the audience went, who? Oh, shit. Do we know that guy? Damn. He's dead now, I guess. And then 2% because they're so confused. We're like, no. Wait. Not him. Wait, wait, what? It's the way of who? No, please. Service theory. We should test your metal via rags. You two should talk about stars before the prequels and hand door. If you survive, you'll be a true master. Who's rags? It's my co-host on eFap who's, I guess, more known for being a bit more... What word can I use? Abrasive could be the word. He likes the prequels, but he would call them very bad. Oh, yeah, sure. I think that'd be a fun discussion. So many chat said an Admiral Ackbar backstory. They don't care about it. No, it can't be a character that we care about. They would be like, whoa, why would we have to take a character you guys actually give a shit about? No, no, no, no. Let's give an actual... Admiral Ackbar was a fucking slave who worked on the Death Star and was assigned to Tarkin. And then this episode, he kicks him in the face and says, you'll never be in a position of power to do anything to this structure ever. He's like, hmm. I have put a crush for long enough. Yeah. Trust your weight. Yeah. Trust your weight. Chumps into a fishbowl. Flushes himself down a toilet. Family guy-style. Just like twists around you, yeah, yeah. Oh, man. And Luke married Mary Jade in the EU. They had a son. That's right. Can I ask for a favor? A member of the John Williams Fan Network Forum has started a petition to get the complete soundtracks to the OT released. Could you guys maybe give it a shout out to help the music get the release they deserve? Why doesn't it have a release? Wouldn't that be going against George? It's not a petition to get the complete soundtracks to the OT released. They mean including bloopers. Every time, you know, violin is fucked up, and they're like, ah, cut. I don't know exactly what that is. I don't know exactly. I mean, in theory, I could imagine that there was some stuff that they recorded for it for scenes that maybe didn't make the final cut or things like this. So I can see there being some stuff out there that we haven't heard. That is funnier now. It's just so funny, man. It's just so fucking funny. Especially when I'm, like, talking serious. Yeah, the seriousness. Yeah, I mean, the reality is I'd be all for releasing all of John Williams stuff. He would stop fucking copyright claiming everything that has two seconds of John Williams' fucking score. Jurassic Park, Indiana Jones, Star Wars. Motherfucker claims every single thing. I can't play a damn video game. I can't play Battlefront without this fuck. As if you need more money, John Williams. Stop fucking copyright claiming my shit. And you know what? John is specifically targeting your channel. He's like, that Ryan's, you know, playing Battlefront II again. I know it. He kills three again. Dead. Finally, the mainstream media got what they wanted. Now Ryan's going to be the hero. Yeah, I don't know what they're dealing with now. The pharaoh hero. Yeah. The unknown hero. I keep breaking this fucking chair. God damn it. Yeah, no, it's really annoying how they copyright so much shit that has, like, .2 seconds of the John Williams song. It was like a nine hour stream I did. It was like maybe 10 seconds of, I think, one of the songs from Revenge of the Sith. And fucking they took the whole stream. All nine hours. Fuck him. Not John Williams. Like, who was it? Fuck John Williams. No, not fuck. No, never. No, he can have all the money he wants for my channel. But. He can't have mine. I don't have as much as you. I don't have as many fucking subs as you. I need that shit. Trying to live here, John. You're like fucking 90. Got enough? You don't need money anymore. Fuck. Now this is going to be my fault again. Random. But after I saw your video with Nick Gillard, I knew I recognized him from a movie. I figured out he's the German soldier in last crusade who's laughing at Indy through the periscope on the tank. Nick's been in a lot of different movies, a lot of different projects. Yeah. People just recognize him for Star Wars. They've been a ton of different stuff. Be thankful. It hasn't gone full non-binary, preachy like Star Trek Discovery. I've known. I've never known such a god-awful story teller. Kylo's turn on the dark side never made any sense. Your uncle tries to kill you, therefore you become a genocidal maniac. I guess they don't use already. I don't know. Dark side. Because Snoke had been whispering to him at night on his phone or something. Yeah. Well, you have to read the rise of Kylo Ren comic book arc. Oh, God. Snoke is where Snoke is. Where Snoke is actually like communicating with Kylo and like doing that shit to him. Snork. What is his name? Should be. Fuck it out. Snork. What I call Grogu the other day. Yeah, I remember you fucked it up. I remember something. It's great. You're getting the mucus out of my head. Mahler, do you think Dave can improve with more live action? Represents Ahsoka was his first project. Yeah, yeah. It's more than possible, right? Like there's no reason why it shouldn't be. It's just that from keeping an eye on him, not even like fully, I just I get a sense that giving him more power and more creative control is not the answer we're looking for. So I worry that it's going to get worse before it gets better. But hey, you know what? We'll see. Maybe I'll be getting myself a little lightsaber. Who knows? Maybe. Can't get any worse. Chat, make sure you're hitting that like button right now. Nepes. 3,000 a year. How's my favorite Irishman? Hey, you know what? Theory, he got it right eventually. Okay, yeah, yeah. Fuck. Yeah. How long of a flight is it from? From Scotland. Is he from Scotland? Is drinker from Scotland? It was Ireland. Scotland. Fuck off, whatever. How? Scottish people talk like this, like Braveheart. I know Irish people talk like leprechauns. See, you can say that. I can't say that. I got to remember it. There you go. What do Welsh people talk like? Well, Welsh people talk, I guess. A lot of them anyway. And then you get like the fucking rugby players who talk, I guess. Yeah, and then you got like the billion English languages. To be fair, sorry, accents. You got like all kinds of variations of all of them, but those are like, I guess, the four major for Britain. What's cockney? It's like people that sound poor as shit. That is what I think. Right, Mahler? Pretty much, yeah. You get some rich ones doing it, I guess. Fuck, dude. So what's a London accent? Well, right now it's like, thank you, come again. There's just all the accents that everybody's around. I don't actually know if there's something of a London accent. I don't think there is. Well, I guess it's just proper English, like James Bond. You do? I'm from England. I'm very old. No, I don't know about all these streaming business. Nigel Fulbury or something. Patrick. So then what was Austin Powers? Mike Myers. Yeah, like the accent would be just English. I don't know about this, but I'm not even that good at specific. I just know the broad ones, obviously. I figure it should piss Americans off when people say an American accent because there's like a thousand of those, right? Yeah, but the thing is, we're such a big country, right? So people that are in the Northeast are going to sound way different than people in the South or people in the Midwest and shit like that. For you guys, obviously, it's a much smaller country. Like regionally, it kind of makes sense why you have, you know, those different accents. Like your Northeast would be a certain area and your Southern accent would be like a certain area. I get it. But as Gary said, we talk gooder. A new one? Like someone I've never said before? Fuck, I don't know. Um, Ryan, help me out. Are your hot, your new Star Wars hot tank? Well, I think you told me, like, I wasn't supposed to reveal this. We were DMing earlier, but you actually told me that Bookabove, if that's your favorite show. Well, no. The amount of like the writing, you know, the fact that you had, you know, 14 pages of script for the entire season, that you actually like love that. Once the Rainbow Vespas came in, I was like, so this is my show. Like that's, that's just, that's it. They made this for me. Oh, yeah. Anakin's force goes, we'll get Rape Freckers. Then, uh, I like that one. Let's do it. Keep Ryan so that Rolling Stone has an easy target. Yeah, that's really what he's doing. He's fucking deflecting. He's the meat shield. Hiding behind the headdress. Hey, you can't get me now. I'm diverse. What an idiot. Who wrote that article? What an absolute reined dead idiot. So horrific. He agreed. I love the headline purpose personally. Fuck you. Fucking horrible article. I want Baby Yoda and to be so horrific that it traumatizes everyone who loves that Gremlin. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. My favorite part of my favorite part of season one was he got the shit kicked out of him. He was in that little bag. The stormtroopers. That was pretty good. That was pretty good. Yeah, it was hard to watch. I was like, no, somebody did like a three hour mix of that just to Toto's Africa. Just with them punching the baby over and over. I love it. I just played at the end of my streams and then get copyright claim from fucking Toto. Probably probably just by humming that right now. Legends. Quinlan Voss goes to the edge between light and dark, but always vigilant in his ideals as a Jedi. Hey, let's secure any other hand, not so much. Yeah. Quinlan Voss badass. All right. Can see the great Pharaoh please bless my harvest. Bless you, my son. When AI develops more than we can more, we can remake the sequels based on new Jedi order books without needing any re-actors in the future. Well, that's what I'm doing, man, with the freaking dark empire. It's not far off and a few years we'll probably be able to do that so easily. Resend. Did you see the recent interviews between? Oh, and I read this one, bro. You're just behind. That's why you said resend. Yeah. Sometimes they get angry, though. Like you didn't read it. The people, the people won't do that. That's what I'm saying. Oh, oh, money. Oh, let me. Oh, let me read this. Oh, I know. Sometimes you're going to chill and that comes. Dude, that's what I have to jump for, theory. There's fucking, there's fucking, there's streamers who don't even read super chats. It blows like, you see Dr. Disrespect. He doesn't even fucking read them. Yeah. It's like, you know, like four or 5,000 a stream. I assume it fucking reads like two, 10. Yeah. Imagine if like you're a person that sounds like $100 super chat in like how much I love you and watch you every day or whatever. And then there's like one dude named like Boner King 69 who sounds like a $199. It's just like, thanks, Doc. He reads that one. Yeah. Well, yeah. So like what we do on FNT is getting out of control. We're having 17, 18,000 people watching. We basically read all the big ones. We read all the big ones on stream. And then Gary typically does a super chat square up. So for all the other ones that are set on that stream, because we, you know, we only go three or four hours and there's a lot of super chats that get sent. So we read the big ones that come in on the stream and then Gary will do a super chat square up. He'll put that on the channel just specifically release it. And so everybody gets the chat right at some point. But it's if we were to do an entire stream read every one be going along. No, this is the thing that I think all of us learned gradually is that the more you read live, the less likely you are to get through them. Obviously, EFAP went from doing the show and then reading super chats. And then we ended up with capping out our stream time like YouTube caps at 1145, I think hours. So we decided to split them into the stream show. And then we do all the super chats in a block offline. So the the messages that come in, that's what came in. Drinker was doing open bar. We were doing a lot more live. But then he knew like the show was going to be pushed way too fast. He was like, well, do as I'll do bigger ones. Or actually, I think he reads from the beginning to somewhat to the end. He tries to go for like three hours ish. Then we do a catch up episode. Real BBC. We do, I think, from the beginning. And then he does a catch up stream as well. I was just thinking to myself like, basically, if you're a regular streamer who responds to super chats, you've got two streams most of the time because you're going to fucking do the catch up part of it. Right. It's just about it. Well, it's just about making sure the audience has a certain expectation, right? Yeah. Yeah. No, I, yeah, that's cool. F&T is fucking huge now. It's crazy. It's good. We almost hit 20K the other day, which is. That's amazing. Good. Wild. Yeah. And you want to make sure that people's messages that are sent in are addressed. And when you get to F&T size, it's starting to get actually almost impossible. But from what I can tell, Gary's still doing a good job of keeping on it, which is impressive considering how much he runs. Yeah. No, that's good for him. That's why I have time to make so many videos because I don't get as many super chats, you know? So Gary spends all his time doing super chats, square ups. Well, your videos are quick. They are. Some of those are like four minutes and they're like. I'm known for being fast. Yeah. See, that's what Mike zero is doing now too. And he's killing it. He's literally fucking like anything that starts to like do well on my channel, Mike zero all of a sudden has a story about it. Or it's like. Well, he's just. It'll be like, hey, it's Rachel Zegler story took off. And then next time I'm going to see Mike zero is like, Rachel Zegler takes legal action against Disney after blah, blah, blah. It's like, yeah, Mike's killing it right now. He's getting these. I wish I had no shame to just make up stories. Is he making them? I didn't watch the easy making them up or is he? Yeah, they're not real. Yeah. Or is he just commenting on the news? He's making them up. You got to say, you got to say in my opinion, otherwise you could be. In my opinion, he's full of shit and making it up. Probably a good dude. But he is. But if you see a story or a headline from Mike zero, it's not real. In my opinion, that's Ryan's opinion. So in my opinion, that's Muller's opinion of Ryan's opinion. In my opinion, no other opinions matter. That would love to turn pretty like a Friday night tight. So for Star Wars, that'd be cool. I mean, like a big panel and we just talked about. I guess everything you're talking about. But I think it would be fun to bring on guests over time. Like, like, but like polarizing guests, like people who like can fucking hate us or something or, you know, whatever. I think that would make it interesting. I thought it was funny when you have like, I can't remember which stream it was. It was one of us talkers where someone in chat was like, fuck you, theory. Like you missed that. The other day you're like, you want to just jump on. He was like, no, I don't want to go anywhere. And he was like, they never came on the stream just to be a cock and chat and then leave like this. Yeah, yeah, they never do. And I have so many times. I mean, like, hey, I'll invite. And this goes to anybody right now that's watching. I know there's a lot of people from Twitter or Rolling Stone or watching or whatever. But it's a clip something out of context. But if you ever want to just come on and talk, by all means, just let me know. No problem. I have no problem with that. I encourage that. I think communication is really important. Also, FLEAM language was mentioned in an earlier super chat there. That was, FLEAM language. It's something that just happens over on EFA. We use certain words that are kind of magical in a way, like, like Tism, Wombo, FLEAM. They replaced it in other words so that you'll understand it in context eventually. Got you. You need to reset a stone if you watch that show. That's what he's saying. Okay. Yeah. Like, you're feeling pretty fleamy today, it seems. FLEAMy. I thought she was meaning like FLEAMy because I'm like, yeah, yeah. They mean, yeah, that would work. He's like, yeah, you just got an accent. Ah, I see. Yoda says the prophecy Ms. Red could have been. Anakin did bring balance by killing off a majority of Jedi. At that point, there was way more light side users than dark side. That is the Freddy Prince Jr. like explanation. Yeah. He's Sisyphus. Well, Michael Cain basically admitted that Inception's ending is real. What? I'm laughing at that because that's what what fucking Freddy Prince Jr. said. I know. He's Sisyphus. Know your Greek mythology. Is real because no one said that any scene with him in it is real. Mark O'Cain. He's got one of the best. What's his accent? English. You can sound like if you want to say Mike O'Cain. No, I know. I know. But like you were saying, there's different dialects. Oh, yeah. No, I was saying that there's so many that I don't even know the names of all of them as might be better to ask for that. Like, yeah, you'd be able to tell you. Okay. Yeah, that'd be cool. Yeah. I always wondered what Michael Cain's was. Chat, do you know? It's not Cockney. Cockney? Explain to me if this is correct. You know the what is that fucking movie where they not Secret Service Kingsman Kingsman in the beginning of that where they're like in the bar and like that's Cockney, right? We can barely fucking understand any of them where they're like, oh, you really think that? So like whatever you know what I'm talking about. I think he might be Cockney, but like relax sort of. This is the other problem with accents is that within the same accent you can have like different sounding people because of how they, I don't know, how well they annunciate, I guess. You ever see that movie, the Twins with Tom Hardy? What was it called? Oh, no. Tom, he just plays two characters. I know you're talking about that. Are you thinking about Nanum? No. Here you fuck it. He does play two characters. Yeah. Yeah, totally. Venom three hype, huh? Yeah, I can't wait to see the same story again. Adam Webb is going to be killer though. I've had many dislikes about theory, but never with misogyny. How the F do you get the idea theories misogynistic? Almost the Disney is paying people to say it. Yeah, sometimes I wonder that. The thing is, like there's people who hate us literally because of the fact that we like do damage to the overall perception of maybe Disney Star Wars and they're just like, can I get something more real to hit them on though? And literally you're just like women. Then they go, ah, got you. He hates women. There you go. Got him. Everyone going to hate him for real reasons now, instead of just saying you don't like Star Wars as it currently is. It's kind of dope. It's actually brought out so many women that have messaged me and been like, these people are insane though. Thank you. It is insane. I've never taken it fucking seriously. It shows they do it all the time. You get to make you into like a crazy villain. I've just never experienced a situation where I literally don't say a word and yet it's as if all of a sudden. Well, don't you know silence is violence theory. So say I say something on this stream and you don't immediately disavow or say that's wrong, right? Then if you don't push back on hatred and bigotry or wrong opinions, then you yourself are responsible for it. I just agree with that. Yes. It's not enough to be like a normal person. You have to be an anti-racist or you know, shit like that. That's kind of like the level we're at. I disagree with that. I just let people have their own opinions. I don't need to correct everyone on it. You can have a tough time escaping the misogynist label when we rename this stream the misogynist triumvirate. That's what we're going for. Hey, Moller has Moller. Now Moller will not be in trouble ever. I disagree with that. You know what? I'd be right. I disagree with you on that one. It'd be funny if you guys see like, okay, let's see on the stream to see if folks like, oh, I just agree with that. Just got to make sure. This one's for you, Ryan. Off to have a question. Ryan read Star Wars of the Public Commando series by Karen Travis. What's your opinion on this series if you read the books? Yeah, so they're not like my favorite, but I really like how they depict the clones in that. And Karen Travis actually had a lot of problems when Clone Wars came out because of so much of the work she did, kind of building up that culture and how much really got fucking erased with TCW. And it was enough to make Karen Travis basically just fucking leave. So I like them. I think they're pretty good. Not my favorite, but I enjoy them. Biggest soupy of the night from Jay Mac. We appreciate you. Have any of you seen a channel called Renoke Gaming? He covers movie gay monsters diseases and goes into the science behind this. He's a gay monster. Movie gay monsters diseases. That's some friend shit. I'm gonna eat you. You better run. Yoda's retarded brother. Eat you, I will. He has a biology background. So the videos are interesting. I always think of friend shit. Was that like a plug or something? I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, I always think of Fringy when I watch the channel. I mean, sure. Row and note gaming? Yeah, I mean, sounds like fun, I guess. I've never heard of it. But I have now. Yeah, interesting topic for sure. I would like a lore that was about gay monsters. But 50, dude. 50. Jay Mac. Okay. This Jay Mac guy, he's given like 50 to 100 to FNT. I'm pretty sure Real BBC, EFAP, Adam and Stitches Stream and this one. This man, he's a member person. He just members everybody for every stream. So you're a member here? Well, he's not a member here. I think this is one. Did he become a member after that? Oh, he's a member now. Yeah. Yeah, there he is. Thank you, man. Thank you, Jay Mac. That's cool. Soma's really good. Soma's on stream for $3 right now. Who's Soma? It's a video game. And it's one that everyone should play. It's fucking Bola. Oh, we got it. Are you doing a fan meetup at Megacon? Yeah, eventually when I'm there, we'll figure it out. I mean, I'm pretty sure. Usually how that stuff works is like someone just takes a photo and then someone sees me and then the line ends up on it. Randomly. So we are going to Beaks and Gamers, FNT crew. We are going to do a fan meetup on Saturday night. Location, TBA. We're still finalizing the details. You have to figure out between one of these two places. And then we're going to announce it probably tomorrow or maybe the next day at latest. We are going to be doing a meetup outside of Megacon as well. So if anyone's been waiting for that. Maybe we should collab on that. Maybe. I'll let you know. Oh, my God. We're going to fly Mahler out, too. That'd be great. I'm just kidding. He's show up. He's banned. Passport got revoked. Damn. Wow. He didn't think he could be there. We wouldn't even know. We wouldn't know. Well, we'd recognize his voice. That's what I want to do when I first go to a meetup with you guys. I want to turn up. I was like, hey, everybody, I'm a big fan of FNT. With big glasses on or something. You could all be like, oh, hi, hi. That'll be like, it's me, by the way. Do your Han Solo voice. What's my Han Solo voice? You've done it. Different parts and Force Awakens, I think. Your Force Awakens review. I did for Han Solo. I thought you did, didn't you? Do you mean like the Sebastian Stan or? No, sorry, not Sebastian Stan. What's that? What's that? Alden Ehringreich. That's all Alden Ehringreich. Yeah. I don't think that was his name. But yeah, sure. He had changed it because it was so controversial. You've never done a hair support Han Solo impression. I don't know. I don't. It doesn't sound familiar at all. His name isn't even. Sorry, his voice isn't even that memeable. It's like a normal voice. Yeah, I guess no one took that 10K, eh? So I made a, did you guys see that? I made a offer to anyone who can find a clip of me where I say women don't belong in Star Wars or Star Wars isn't for women, that I'm going to give them $10,000. Well, clip that. I already said it in writing and I said it in a video. No, I mean, you literally just said it. We've got a two-second clip of you. Fuck off. Wow, we got him. We got him, boys. I will take a finder's fee. They need to, they need to link back to the video through the context because there's going to be some AI fuckers out there. I will be making no offers about that. Claude is the strong female character to me. Mauler, why do I remember that? Claude, the fucking weird penis monster. Those are saying like, why would I remember that? It's like, I don't know. That's just stuff you remember. He just looks like a friendly guy. He would be a, he would be a gay monster. He looks like a gay monster. He does. He looks exactly like a penis. So of course he'd be gay. But I do think that the fact that we remember Claude's name and we can't remember a single character from Andor is very interesting to me. What the fuck? I don't even know what that means though because Claude doesn't even have a line. I know, but it's like that fucking like stands out. Claude the penis monster. Oh, I don't even think like, I don't think anybody's like is, there might be one time they run by like, hey Claude, like do this or whatever. He's like, I don't have arms. But I just love the idea. You go to a stall, it's called, it's like Mark Hamill's light is big and everyone else is having this huge queue. And you're like, oh, what's this for? It's like Claude, obviously. He's signing autographs and stuff. What does he sound like? I don't know. I feel like that's what he sounds like. He sounds like a Han Solo. Bro, what if he opened his mouth and he's like, well kid, I don't know what to tell you. I don't know what happened here. The message transfers shit. Suggestion for the next Star Wars, for the next sins versus wins. That's the movie you guys see as a middle. What's the movie you guys see as a middle of the road should be Suicide Squad? So yeah, they're saying we do a on you fat way that we put cinema wins and cinema sins against each other. We score them on how good they do an assessment of a film. First one sins one, second one wins one. So now we need and we did like a bad movie and a good movie. So now we want to do like a middle of the roads movie and see which one wins. What are they going to do in the Mario movie? See what assesses that better because that feels like a middle of the road type thing. Yeah. Yeah, I think Ahsoka was a good character in the playoffs. What are you guys? Well, my answer is worthless. Well, we're Orion though. I think everybody knows mine. I don't like it. That's right. He's the one that I deserve. Tell me about what Nick said about his fight with Hayden in the temple being so brutal they had to downside it to a hologram. Yeah. Well, yeah. Go watch the freaking go watch the vlog or go watch the clip on my Instagram. But essentially, yeah, we were supposed to get Hayden fighting. You know the hologram that Obi-Wan sees? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're killing the kids. Oh, it's always the same. Tell you guys. Oh, yeah. Okay. So we're just telling killing. No, not the kids. He's killing Cinderella and choking. Yeah. Yeah. So that was actually a full on fight and Anakin like the heads dudes and just fucking chokes one out, crushes them. So mean. Yeah. George actually cut it out. So it was. It was like too violent, right? So we like made him shrink it down to like you get a little taste of it on a hologram that you could get away with it to show some brutality, but not not just Anakin dismembering people the entire time. Yeah. Like I would I would love to have seen Anakin vs. Indralic. We do get to play through it and revenge of the Sith, the video game. But yeah, like seeing Anakin go up against like essentially the Jedi battle master at the time would have been fucking awesome. Oh, wow. Order 66 movie where nobody actually dies. They'll escape. And then we make a bunch of TV shows. Be great. Like that would be great. The origins of every survivor border 66 season one 64 episodes. And we couldn't fit them all into season one. You do like weekly releases and it goes over a year. Well, then you have to do that storyline of like what happened during order 66. Like they tell us all the Jedi go killed. But I don't know. I don't believe it. What were they covering up? What were they doing in that building? They called 66 because that's how many people actually died. What's up, Kevin? The true kick. He said Indy is a hero. You know, Jones game made for modern audiences. So you know the Indiana Jones game. I find it interesting that everyone seems to be on it. Um, he is Scottish and Swiss. I believe, right? Yeah, but well, it depends on are they trying to say because this is in relation to the accent conversation, right? What's your economy? Well, yeah, but, you know, not all of them. But like if you're talking lineage, it's different than the accent, obviously. But I do think that Bond is Scott part Scottish part Swiss. Am I making that up? I am not familiar with the are you talking about like Fleming's original Bond versus like what he is in Doctor Know or whatever. Yeah, Fleming's novels meticulous to describe James Bond, Scottish, Swiss background. Yeah, there you go. I love James Bond, dude. So yeah, just quick, I was going to bring up the Indiana Jones thing. I was curious if you feel the same way, Ryan, but I thought from the trailer that looked like an incredibly lame game. And then everyone was like, oh my God, it's that clip. That makes people think it's going to be bad. The thing that made everyone like it was the music and punching people. But if you look at it, it looks so scripted. So I actually was like OK with the trailer in terms of it feeling like an Indiana Jones adventure. You know what I mean? I was like the things that I didn't like were first person gameplay. If I'm if I'm playing like me or whatever, I'm fine, you know, being first person. If I'm playing a fucking character that I love to see like Indiana Jones, I kind of want to see Indiana Jones. Also, the whipping looks a little bit strange in first person. And I feel like just the character that Indy is with a whip and then a revolver that the gameplay could get really repetitive, just whipping people, bringing them in and punching them. I think genuinely everyone's imagination is what makes them think the game would be good from that trailer. If you watch the trailer and pay attention to everything they show you, it looks really simplistic and at times really restricted. Like I could imagine you know the puzzle piece that he puts on the wall, like a gear or whatever. I could picture there being a huge room and it's like there's a wall, there's three gear pieces and there's three gear slots. Yes. That'll make sure you put the right one in the right place and then hit the switch and that's it. Like I could picture that's what it is. I could picture that too. For me, just seeing what was there, I didn't mind like the entire store, like the idea of it. I liked how they, like I like that opening sequence with the guy talking shit to him when he's buried in the sand and everything. A lot of it felt like a James Bond adventure but there's, it's way too soon to know if that game is going to be any good. Yeah. And certainly there's one line that stands out when she's like, let's see if you can keep up. He's like, what? Me with you? Whatever. And then he just goes to a face. Keep up with this, bitch. Yeah. What's that? Who was that? Let's think of the final James Bond movie. I didn't like it. I think that that Daniel Craig's James Bond is disconnected from all the other Bond movies. I think that's really the only way you can look at it. Even like from the, I really like Casino Royale. Like I fucking love that movie. But from the start of that, if you're doing a Bond origin, you can't have female M. Like it makes no fucking sense. And they transferred from female M to Ray Fiends. Am I saying that right? Welshman. Yeah. To Ray Fiends, who is supposed to be M from the first one. So it doesn't make any sense. Yeah, it's weird. With the journey they put Daniel Craig on, the ending kind of makes sense because this is not James Bond like we've seen before. This is James Bond who is fucking obsessed over Vesper Dine. And that's like, that has just been the shadow that hung over in the entire time. And I hate it. Like I hate the choices they made. But in terms of what they did in finale with him going out the way he did, it makes sense for what they did in this version of James Bond. Just what happens. It's a fucking terrible version. Yeah. And it's him going out, going out at the end like that. I don't know. It's not yet character development. I get it. But that's James Bond, man. Yeah, it's it doesn't fit. Like you really have to disconnect that in your mind with every other James Bond iteration we've ever had. There are probably some actors who hate the roles they play and get away with it, but he didn't. Like you can fucking smell it when you watch those films that he hates being Bond. Daniel Craig. Yeah, he hated being. But he said that he would rather like have fucking his eyes pulled out and play Bond again or something. He said he'd rather slash his wrists and play James Bond again. And this is before he signed up to do the last one. Yeah. Didn't he get paid like 230 million euros? Oh, yeah. He got a lot. He got a lot. The thing is, if you watch, what was it called? Fucking Conor Masalis and Spectre. Those two specifically are fucking atrocious. Skyfall is like bad, but weird. Skyfall relies a lot upon nostalgia. And I like Skyfall. Cassina Riles is the best one. I like Skyfall. Quantum is horrific. Spectre, I like parts of it a lot, but they made it way too convoluted. I kind of hated it. Like there's parts of it I like, the problem is so fucking convoluted and it's like the third time in that series that like, oh, Bond, you're too old for this. Oh, you're washed up. And it's like, OK, we fucking get it. But having him be his half brother or his adopted brother and their dad died, all that shit was way too convoluted to fit into one movie with Blofeld. Yeah, yeah. By the way, you know Ray Fiennes. His full name is Ray Nathaniel Twistleton Wycomfiennes. Jesus. That's like. That's crazy. I get why you shortened it. It's like Albus Wolfrick, Percival, Brian Dumbledore. Yeah, some 50 million names in there. You guys have middle names? Yes. I have seven. Really? I'm not going to tell you though. I've adopted myself lately. Is one of them Rufus? Three of them, actually. I figured it was one of them King Tut. I wish. See, now you look pale with this thing on. I know. Now you got great hair. Don't worry about it. Well, listen. No, thank you. Not that I don't mind the compliment, but from you, I don't know how much it means. It means a fucking lot. A bit like I could have some hair and you'd be like, God, I'm jealous. Yeah, I'm like a wisp like going this way. You're like, oh, God, I'm so envious of that. Yeah. I could just imagine running my finger through it. Yeah, it's like Alpha. Excited for the Vader episode two. Just wondering if you have any creative plans for original music score. Yeah, it'll all be original. Probably all get fucking copyrighted again. Even though it's original music. Hail, everyone. Really enjoy you all taking talking together with respect and understanding like this. Would love to hear theory and Ryan's opinions on Kray's viewpoint of the force from Code Tour 2. I didn't play Code Tour 2 and how she wanted to destroy it. I think the Sith triumphant were actually pretty awesome. Yeah, I think we talked about that a while ago when I was on. Yeah, you got to play Code Tour 2, man. The restored content mod, the best way to do it. That was a rushed game because of how massively popular Code Tour was. The fact that I think that game got made in like nine months. And obviously they used a lot of assets from the first one, but they changed a lot of shit too. Really could have done with another years worth of development. But in terms of like Kray's viewpoint on the force, Kraya is one of the most. You're going to see a lot of videos. We searched about Kraya on YouTube. You see a lot of videos of people breaking down the way she talks about everything and the nature of the force itself, the light side and the dark side. And it's very interesting. And the fact that she set out to basically fucking destroy everything and bring everything down, kind of a unique backstory for somebody. Please excuse me, guys. I just have to... I'm dealing with the Saber manufacturer right now. So I'm still here. You're excused. Ryan, if you could read that one, I'd appreciate it. Julianne Casade for Aussie 10. I thought it was fucking Italian. Maybe it was Australian. Fury, I've reached out before regarding my main channel. It's blocked here. I cannot super chat or interact. My main channel name is SWP1. Can you help me, please? You're my only... That's weird. I don't know why I'd be blocked. I have no idea. Sometimes I wonder if YouTube is trying to take over. But yeah, I noticed that on my gaming channel for over a year now, people can't really super chat much. Strange, I don't know. Very strange. But it seems we're working for everyone else. How many super chats have we got tonight? Over 170. So he's saying it's user error, Adriano. That's what he just said. Sorry, we don't know. I'm sorry, man. I'll have to check the blocked account, but I don't think you're blocked. Yeah, legend Tom Hardy is the Kray twin. To be honest, his accent is so thick on top of his mumbling is almost not audible. Mahler will have to judge. Great movie. It says Night King 01. Well, yeah, I haven't seen it, but you can't go wrong with Tom Hardy, right? No, Tom Hardy's dope. Yeah, he's pretty cool. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, he's pretty cool. Yeah, he's cool. That was great. He's never had any characters that are in Audible or Mumbly. Juan? I think his most, I think his most in Audible was probably in Lawless. Lawless? Okay, you guys remember that? I don't know. Was Sheila buff in that? What's that supposed to mean? Sheila buff. Big play quay. Mahler, all your podcasts start in the middle of work. You Welsh fuck. Love your work show. First time super chatter. Same for 3RK. I'm sorry. Big play quay. Well, my friends are on the other side of the planet. Okay. So all the British people have to suffer if they want to listen to what I'm up to. Well, he's American. Huh? He's American. How do you know? Because it says 499. Like he's super chatting American dollars. Yeah. He could still be in Britain super chatting dollars. I don't know how this shit works. I would say pounds, whatever. I mean, I like maybe he's using a VPN. I don't know. Yeah. Big play quit. I'm just saying big play quay. Sounds like an American. Well, then also he called you a Welsh fuck. In that case, that's his fault because you guys, this is on your time. Whatever. Wait, what time is it in America right now? Yeah, this is like 831 p.m. Oh, wait, you said middle of work. Wait, is that a middle of work for you guys? I guess it starts. Maybe depends on whatever you watch the fall bed. We have more than one time zone because we're actually a big country. I'm a suck kind of does. Yeah, you're a suck because they're usually says hey, this is on it too. And I have to be like, you mean Pacific, right? He's like, oh, yeah, five Eastern. When this one is like, we started five now. Miami time is what he said. Fuck off. Five Miami time is what he's got. Whenever we book American guests every time is a different fucking set of letters. They're like, I've been see flea flea. And then one day as these little dibble is like, fuck the day that. Okay, so officially, if any of you got an Annie episode three saber from me, spam one right now. If you ordered it before today, then yours is going to be coming out. He's going to be shipping tomorrow. So you still want it out quick. Get a few more orders in until the 25th. After that, it'll be in February. It's also some race guy worker. Twitter fans get so mad at me when I tell them she's not a Skywalker. Oh, that's dude. It's you just got to be like, yeah, whatever. Honestly, they're going to have their own rhetoric on it. And that's honestly Disney's fucking fault for creating something like that and dividing fan base like that. But at the end of the day, you know, people are going to enjoy what they want to enjoy. And I think that's I'm all for that. So as long as everyone can enjoy, that's great. I mean, I think you I just didn't even realize they should be controversial. The fact that she could just go like, I'm a Skywalker. And I was like, no. Imagine Palpatine said that would we be defending it as audibly like, yeah, Palpatine is a Skywalker. Look at him go. I firmly believe that people are able to choose their own identity regardless of whether we're talking about gender or race or surname. So I have no problems with it, obviously. Someone who likes a lot of felonies work, especially Clone Wars, I've loved seeing Mauler and Ryan on the show almost as if you can talk. You can like people who don't agree with everything you agree with. Yeah, they're honestly, I think of them as good friends. So thank you for Cass. Yeah, I mean, people don't get that. Uh, it's so weird. Like you got him. You got to you got to hang out with people that are in your echo chamber that are yes, man, like, why would you want that? It's so much more, I would say, inclusive to be talking to people that have different views and opinions of everything. It broadens your horizons and makes you more capable of being able to ingest other forms of opinions. It's great. Maybe if I'm just the things to disagree with Ryan on like passionately, because I always feel like you bring out a hot take and then I'm sitting there called FNT like, I don't know. I just seems right. Then, uh, you know, one day while we've been sitting here, I've had three of these three fucking leaders, man. I got to take another piss. That's a lot. I like as crazy as it sounds when I'm on FNT, I'm usually like the person who's trying to like dial it back a little bit and give what I think is a little more like balance perspective because it just depends, right? It's like kind of like what theory just said, if we're all just fucking shitting all over the same thing. Well, let's think of it from this perspective. What could they be thinking this? Could this have been what they meant? Even if I don't, like even I'm not super and, you know, devoted to that frame of thought, just because I think it's fun to actually have those discussions and hear those arguments. But well, let's challenge you right now. Uh, say that what is the best aspect of Dave Filoni as a creator? The best aspect of Dave Filoni. Um, I think that, uh, what is true is that Dave Filoni and his work on Clone Wars was able to get an entire generation of people actually invested in like the character of Ahsoka, right? The, uh, by generation, I mean the people that happened to be watching Clone Wars at that time. So he has been involved with a character that one time people really liked. I like you have to give that to him and a lot of people really like to soak it during Clone Wars. So you would think that in theory, he should be able to tell stories in the Star Wars universe, even if they're ancillary attached to other characters that people could get invested in. But I don't like that. You know what I mean? I don't like her character. I don't like pretty much anything I've ever seen Dave Filoni do. So it's tough for me to tell you what is the best aspect of him as a, like a creator is. Um, this is what I'll say. I actually think that, you know, Dave, I think Dave is very knowledgeable about Star Wars. The problem is I don't think he gives a fuck about anyone's vision except for his. I'll say that. I think Dave is very knowledgeable on Star Wars. Um, I think it's undeniable, but the problem is it doesn't come with like a reverence for anyone else who's worked on it. He only cares about his plan, including even fucking George Lucas, by the way, like George who wanted Ahsoka to die, who thought Ahsoka should die, had arguments with Dave saying, no, she has to die, blah, blah, blah. What have we seen Ahsoka becomes basically the center of the Star Wars universe. And for Dave Filoni. So good that you wrap that up right when he arrives so that, you know, he doesn't have to experience any of that. Dave, we've talked about it before. Oh yeah. 100%. But yeah, I was convenient. We just solved World Hunger. Yeah. How'd you do that? Um, we decided to go the Thanos route, kill half the population. Oh, sick. Nice. The other half can eat the corpses then. So just reduce the demand. Yeah. Don't actually increase the food. Okay, cool. Yeah. How has nobody thought of this before, the fuck? I don't know. People are so dumb. Hot take. 80% of Bond films are really bad, just big budget explosions, exploration, B films, also Bond being Scottish, I believe. Lemming added in after. He may have done it after like Sean Connery was cast maybe, but like certainly in the novels. As for big budget exploration, B films, I thought there were some reason I read that first time and thought they'd said like they were, well, it doesn't matter. They're probably thinking of Roger Moore's era more than anything, I'd imagine. Roger Moore's era is so hit or miss. Yeah. It's like awesome Bond movie. Fucking dog shit. I don't have some Bond movie awful. I love Roger Moore, but he's yeah. That era is kind of like my least favorite Bond. I would rather see 10 Timothy Dalton movies. Timothy Dalton was great. Roger Moore was, I didn't really connect with him that much when I was a kid. I think Sean Connery, Timothy Dalton. I didn't like Pierce Brosnan's portrayal of Bond. He's my favorite. I like him. He's like to me, he's a, Timothy Dalton was a little bit ahead of his time. Timothy Dalton, like especially shifting from Roger Moore. I guess I've been like the one, you know, shifting from Roger Moore to Timothy Dalton or like so polar opposites because Roger Moore, all the super like slapsticky like outrageous type of things. Timothy Dalton's are like pretty fucking dark. And I think that was too vehemently like shifted one way. I don't think people are really ready for that from Bond. So I think it was kind of ahead of his time, but Pierce Brosnan's a good balance. So he brought it a little bit down, little more like light in tone than Dalton was certainly. It was crazy to me about Brosnan's run is like GoldenEye. That's my favorite Bond film of all time. I think like I have so much to praise about how they did it. Tomorrow Never Dies is like, it's fine. It's getting a little bit weird. And then Will is not enough is really goofy. And they're like they completely losing touch with wherever they had. And then Die Another Day is a clown film like that. It's so weird how they progressed over the four films just becoming more and more insane. They got out right like Die Another Day is freaking because Die Another Day is the one with the solar late like satellite like fucking laser beam, ice one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The guy with diamonds in his face and the yeah, the aging sleep thing. Yeah, there's so much goofy shit in there. Madonna's question. Watch it. Is she? She is. But she also does the theme song Die Another Day. Which one was the one with Grace Jones? Let me find out. Remember that one. Oh, Mayday. You mean a view to kill? A view to a kill. Sorry. A view to a kill. Yeah. Is that with Sean Connery? I want to say Roger Moll. But a kill to a kill. I don't remember who is that one. Kind of a bundle. A view to a kill. Isn't that I thought it was more but there's one like later one that that Sean Connery does. I don't remember. Yeah, yeah, it's view to a kill is Roger Moore. Okay. Yes, Grace Jones. Cool. Roger Moore's seventh and final appearance. If I comment on the chat, they won't even show. I think I'm blocked. It's weird. Maybe you maybe you two blocked. Yeah, I have no idea. But you mean Super Chat's coming through here. So what's up Rossi? You have to be a misogynist to comment in this chat. Yeah, God. To be consider a Skywalker pretty sure you need to lose at least one limb raised just taking the easy route. By not. Yes, I know. She's just getting a leg up everywhere. Well, she loses other people's lives. Oh my gosh, bro. Another 50. Jay Mac. Thank you. What the heck? Because he likes my hat. Yeah. It's insane. It's definitely the hat. It is a hat. You're a good luck charm. Rockin' it. Rockin' it. What are you guys doing tonight? Because we just finished Super Chat. I need to fucking leave pretty soon. This is a longer and I shut up. We should probably wrap up. Because there's something I want to show you as well. The off stream for a stream idea potentially. I'm not sure. Okay. Wow. It was a four hour one. No, I was doing it for half an hour. Yeah, three and a half hour. Crazy. Nice. Okay. Cool. Well, I assume we're not going to be doing it next Monday. Because of Megacon? What is next Monday? Next Monday would be a couple of days before Megacon, but obviously you're mobile. It's 29. No, I'll be in Orlando by then. There you go. So we could even do it together. Maybe. She could wear the hat. You can with that. Fuck yeah. Dude, let's just do that. Just invite myself over to your house. Hey, man. What's that? Oh. Oh, saying this is a bond guy that thinks on her magic secret service is the best in the series behind Casino Royale, which I have my opinion is pure to the book. Yeah, I didn't. I don't think I saw in her on her magic secret service. That's George. The one George. Lasin B one. No, that's the one George. Lasin B one. Yeah, he did. Right. What else is I think a lot of people when looking back on bond are mainly remembering the films they loved. They're not thinking about the many they kind of ignored and went, no, that's not that one. It's not that one. There's a lot of not that one. And there's some like moon raker where people like it's goofy, but come on. Yeah, love is. Yeah, it's really up to. It's up to you. I can understand the perspective. Yeah, right. All right, boys. Well, that was it for the show tonight. Mahler. I'll stay on. Sorry. Ryan, can you stay on for a sec too? Sure. Okay, boys. We'll see you guys next week. If we don't, there will be announcement, but there's going to be a ton of videos and blogs and fun stuff of all of us actually hanging out in person. So stay tuned for that. Megacon is going to be pretty wild. Love you all. Check out the sabers. May the force be with you. Mars. 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