 Good. Let's do this. We are live. We are live. Hey, you guys. Let's see here. We'll wait a few minutes here. How's it going? Hey, you guys. What's going on? Happy Saturday if you're in Korea or Asia? It's Friday evening in the U.S. right now. Yes. Good night. Good night. Good evening. Good afternoon. Yes. Good afternoon. Good morning. Wherever you guys are. Hey, you guys. If you guys are just logging in, I would love to hear from you where you guys are logging in from. Again, you are here on Psych2Go, the largest mental health online magazine and YouTube channel with 5.7 million subscribers now. Oh my gosh. It's amazing. It's so good to see all of you guys. We're actually just having a little chat today over coffee and as some of you guys know, some of the people from the bubble room. Look at this chat room blowing up. So amazing. So good to see you guys. I saw Australia just then. Oh, because you used to live in Australia. I'm Australian. Okay. My parents are from Singapore but I'm like born and raised Australian. Amazing. Wow, you guys. It's so good to see you guys. So again, my name is Yuri Choi. I am a performance coach for entrepreneurs and high achievers. I also have a YouTube channel as well as I'm a speaker and author and we have a special guest today. Psych2Go, CEO of Psych2Go invited this special guest today. We're so honored to have him here. His name is Leonard Lin and he is a model actor previously as well as now and he's also the founder of Wild Entertainment and Capsule Collective. So we're going to talk a little bit about what he's up to in the world as well as we're going to have an intimate conversation about mental health for men and mindset for men and how, you know, some of the topics that we get to touch base on today. I'm trying to talk and, you know, watch the chat the same time. The chat room is wild. It's crazy. I cannot say because you guys are sending love hearts. You're saying where you're from. This is amazing. It's nice to know that there's so much like this channel obviously has people from all around the world all different types of cultures. That's pretty cool. Yes, yes, absolutely. So by the way, you guys, we are actually in Seoul, Korea. I think some of you guys know that right now we're logging in from Seoul, Korea. So I wonder if there's any of you guys from either Korea or Asia even. It would be great to see you guys. So, should I introduce myself? Yes, please, please. If there's anything that I miss, I would love to hear from you. Tell us about you. You're up to some amazing things in the world. Oh my gosh. It's not all that. Yeah, we've worked really, really hard being my team. I'm Leonard first and foremost. I am from Australia. But my parents are from Singapore. It makes me Singaporean Australian, I guess. But I live in Seoul, South Korea for the last two years. Previously I was in LA and Vancouver, Singapore. You know, I live in many different places. But here I am in Korea right now with my good friend Yuri. And yeah, I am the founder and CEO of Capsule Collective and also Wild Entertainment. And this is how we kind of met each other. Wild Entertainment. So if you guys noticed you had Melody Flack join the live stream last week or was it last week? I think, yeah, it was about a week and a half ago. And if you guys were there, remember the Starfish story and we started Starfish Discord. So that was kind of cool. So about a week and a half ago Melody, we arranged Wild Entertainment and Psych2Go. We arranged for Melody to join the live stream. These girls really opened up. They told their stories. It was like a heartfelt. I was just like up there, like, you know, watching and then listening in and it was inspiring. So I was like, you know what? I'll come down and I'll have a chat with you too Yuri. And I'll learn a little bit about the importance behind mental health. Yeah, and you know, being in Korea, I know we talked about this a little bit and I don't know if you guys feel this in your own country, in your own way. I'm actually from the US sort of, from Korea. But I lived in the US for a long time and while, you know, there's still stigma that we get to break around mental health. I find that in Korea, it's like a whole new level where it's really not talked about as much. And I think it's true for a lot of different parts of the world. So today we wanted to talk, I mean, we can talk about both men and women as well, but specifically for men. I'm curious, like what are, I mean, first of all, like what are some how do I put this, what are some, you know, mental health challenges or things that come up for men specifically or for you just, you know, in general that you think is relevant. I mean, I would imagine a lot of stress related stuff or, yeah, I would just love to hear a little bit about your experience or your story. Okay, so personally personally, I haven't struggled with a lot of mental health, like, you know, issues or anything that's really a rise that's really critical, but naturally as a male, you know, you kind of like you go through a lot of self doubt and not just males, you know, everyone goes through self doubt. But men, you know, myself I would say, like I have pride. And, you know, along the way, you know, growing up, living in different countries, doing different things, you always have this self doubt of like, am I doing the right thing? And that's when, you know, you can feel a bit of anxiety or like little stints of depression, you know. So there was times, you know, not right now because I'm so you know, I'm in a good state right now. But to get to this point, you know, there was maybe two, three, four years ago, I went through a lot of anxiety because I was questioning like, am I doing the right thing with my life? Am I treating the people in my life the way that I should be treating them? You know, because everyone goes through like a couple of selfish years and selfish things. And three, four years ago, I was really selfish. You know, I just, I maybe mistreated a couple of people that I should have stronger relationships with in my life right now, but I was selfish. And then, you know, it's going through all of that you know, as part of my journey. You know, I felt anxiety, I felt, you know, doubt, self-doubt about like, am I doing the right thing? Yeah. And you know, I'm looking at the chat right now and it's interesting because there's a few people who put in quotes and I think this is definitely true even in the US, which is real men don't cry, real men don't feel anything, real men don't have emotions. And I want to say real men do cry, real men have emotions. In fact, I think really grounded like divine masculinity really comes from being able to feel and feeling balanced in that. Kiri, when's the last time you cried? I'm putting you on the spot. Um, like cry cried a very long time ago. But like to like tear up, like two months ago. Yeah. And like two months ago, teared up just like thinking, I'm a very sentimental person. So sentiment is what makes me cry. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for admitting that. Yeah, I mean it happens. Yeah. Doesn't it feel good sometimes to, you know, like just acknowledge our human parts and our emotions and to be able to just be whatever comes through. Yeah, it's crying as human, it's normal. And so for any of you guys, especially men out there today, you know, we want to just acknowledge you if you, you haven't cried in 12 years. Wow. Um, you know, if you are watching this and you have felt shame for having emotions or having, you know, these moments of tears or, you know, even crying like know that it's okay. So let's reverse that stigma because I mean, I call it emotionally constipated. I've definitely dealt with. I've definitely, you know, helped a lot of my clients who have, you know, been feeling bad. And the problem I sense in that is that whatever it is that you're doing, your passions, your work, it really has to come from your heart. And when you're not connected to your emotions, which by the way I don't know if you guys know this, but you actually have neurons in your heart too. And so when you're not connected to that part, it's actually harder and you actually have to work harder to get the same results. Like you're not being pulled to your vision as much. And so it's amazing that you're able to connect to that. It sounds like you're very sentimental. You're able to connect to your heart. Pisces. Pisces. Pisces is sentimental. That's actually funny. I'm a Capricorn and I'm not very, like technically yeah, I mean Capricorns are technically very practical and but then I'm on the cusp of Capricorn and Aquarius. So my Aquarius side is like I love art and poems and all of that. But yeah, something about K-Drama. Oh, quite over one piece songs. So yeah, today you know, I would love to hear a little bit more about your story. I know that you mentioned you're willing to open up a little bit on what were those moments for you where you were feeling anxious and why do you think that was as well as how did you come out of that for you? What are some tips you would give people who might be experiencing anxiety or bouts of depression, you know, right now in real time and I'd be happy to share some of my stories as well. So the anxiety and like bouts of depression came from either like self-doubt about what I'm doing with myself in life and then secondly, I also got anxiety from the thought of losing someone in my life, you know, from past behavior or whatever it may be, just like I said, I'm very sentimental. There are two things, you know, like what am I doing with myself and also am I going to lose the people around me or am I treating people around me well. So like how I kind of came out of that was I kind of focused on, well firstly I meditated. I learned how to meditate. Firstly I learned how to meditate so I started doing that and I started making sure that I gave myself, you know, 10 to 15 minutes per day to just ground myself and then when I came out of meditation I would always feel rejuvenated. I would feel like, you know, I would give me fresh perspective because it's so easy to get caught up in your own head. Sometimes you're just like, alright, there's so many things happening and my heart would be beating really fast, like I would struggle to sleep but meditation was like part of the answer. I would do that and I would take time to myself and when I would come out of meditation I'd be like actually there's a lot that's good in my life that's positive and I just need to keep moving forward and I need to concentrate on what I'm doing currently. So that was the first solution that I gave myself and the second one was I just tried not to overthink anything. I really tried not to take anything, I became more courageous and I was like, okay, am I doing the right thing in my life? The only way I find out is if I do it and I give it my best and if it works, great, if not I'll be okay and I just stuck to that and here I am two, three years later and there's two blooming businesses that I'm really, really passionate about and they're doing well and I've met so many good people in my life and I retain all these good people in my life too. So there's a lot good that can happen when you just take time for yourself. I love that so for any of you guys who know me, I'm a huge fan of meditation and it's really cool because your energy is very grounded even though you can be really playful and everything. So I totally can sense that meditation is a part of your life and I don't know about you but for me when I meditate there's days where it's so hard to even sit for like a minute and then there's days I can meditate for like two hours. So during the pandemic... You showed us meditation, I feel like that's a nap. I remember when the COVID started and everything we were in lockdown in California and I just started meditating for like two hours a day because I knew the world was going to get chaotic so I'm like okay I get to ground myself and I had some really trippy meditations too where I would just like go into this whole other realm but that's a whole different thing but yeah meditation is amazing. I'm curious but do you guys have any experience with meditation or what questions do you have about meditation? I mean that's amazing that you've been practicing meditation for a while. I've been more irregular now because I'm in a good state but every now and then if I start to feel a little bit anxious or a little bit like clogged up here and here then I'll just wake up and take, even before I work out, I love to work out so I take care of here and then I take care of my body. Actually that's one thing I ask myself as well to my clients at times which is how is your body, how is your mind today, how is your heart and how is your soul and like really checking in with all the different layers. How is your soul? How is your soul today? I don't even know how to answer that question. How is your soul? How do you answer that? Let's check in. How is your soul today? I would love to hear from you guys on meditation and exercise as a great combo. My soul is feeling a lot of excitement. There's a lot of exciting things that's being created in my life right now in business. My soul feels present today. My soul feels present. I invite you guys to try that on too. I invite you to think about every morning, how is my body? Is it feeling good? Is it feeling tense? Is it feeling stressed? If so, where? How is your soul as neutral? I like that. That's a whole different conversation. We're actually a soul in a physical body. I'll share an intimate story with you guys. I talked a little bit about this in the last chat. I remember when my dad passed away due to cancer. When he passed away, that was the first time that I ever experienced somebody really close to me pass away and really kind of see that. I remember seeing his body that was physical vessel that was there, but he wasn't there. For me, that was like the I always knew there was a soul and there was a body, but that was the moment that I really got to distinguish that we are not our bodies. We're just a soul that's walking around in our body for a hot minute for a couple decades. Realizing that there's that soul part, there's a spirit part within every single one of us. I actually connect to that part often. When I connect to that part, I feel expansive because everyone has a soul. Everyone is equal in that place. This is one of the things I get to look at whether it's looking at different kinds of people, different skin colors. People have so many judgments that people make about other people, but I see through that. I'm able to see that there's layers and then there's a soul behind all of that. When I do see, I know there's this huge thing going on right now with Israel and Palestinian conflicts. When I said that, it breaks my heart because in the end, we're just all souls and we think we're so different based on religion or skin color or all of this, but in reality, we are all the same beneath our skin bag that I call we're in a skin bag. Yes, yes. While I don't want to go too deep into that particular conflict, first of all, anyone who is affected by that whether it's mentally or physically or if you have any family who's involved in that situation, my heart grows to you guys as well as to... While I don't want to go into the whole conflict, I want to make a statement that we get to make a stand for harmony, healing and unity and love and so all of you guys who are here today you guys actually doing the work, doing the inner work, doing what you got to do to take care of your mental health, know that you're part of that solution because I believe that when we can actually heal ourselves on a micro level as well as when we can heal the actual intimate relationships or friendships or whatever that you have, that's when these bigger conflicts gets to be resolved. Yeah, those worlds are so chaotic and though, notice that through things like meditation, we can actually calm ourselves, we can come back to a peaceful soul, peaceful heart and from that place, yes love Desalene, thank you LP 999 and I actually wanted to ask you so I love that you are taking care of your physical health and I think that's actually a huge part of taking care of our mental health because it is so interconnected as well as you will literally get a surge of endorphin and dopamine by working out, so how has working out been effective for you in that way? So the way I view my fitness, my well-being I used to be a professional swimmer and I thought back alright what was I like during those days and I was so focused on pushing myself to the limit physically and it always made me feel powerful, confident, strong, so I wanted to get that feeling back so then I dedicated to myself to be like alright well I'm not treating fitness as a cosmetic, I'm not thinking of it as a cosmetic workout, I'm thinking of it to kind of push myself to do something that I enjoy and it makes me feel good and I like taking care of myself so that's how I view fitness and whenever I finish a workout I feel exhausted but I feel really in control, I've done something for myself and then I feel confident and I just go about my day, I always do it first thing in the morning so that it structures the rest of my day and after I do a really good workout I feel like I can do anything and I feel really focused and that's like the main thing as opposed to those period of time where I wake up and I didn't know what to do first, now I'm always like I'm gonna wake up, if I need to meditate I'll meditate and then I'll go for my workout. It's just 45 minutes a day and it's nothing, it doesn't take up too much of your time, it just takes a little bit of discipline but it sets up the rest of your day, it sets up your life, it sets up your year, it sets up everything. Yeah, totally That's the way I view my fitness and well-being now Yeah absolutely and I believe again that's our soul taking care of our body because our body is the only thing we have we might as well take care of it and love on it, right? Here's the thing, the only thing I realize you can control in life is yourself. There's so many external factors that are out of your control like other people or whatever's happening in the world but I always focus on myself and if I keep focusing on myself then I feel like I'm always going to be in a good like mind state. Yeah, absolutely. Sorry my hair looks fabulous There's a question, is there a time of a day that works best for meditation? Honestly, for me, when I'm in a super good flow, I try to like have a meditative days there's no good or bad times however I will say this I start the day, sometimes I don't even get out of my bed and I'm still in my bed with my eyes closed and yes from the outside it might look like I'm sleeping or taking enough but in fact I'm actually just checking in with my body doing some deep breathing and before I actually get out of bed this is something that's so yummy for my soul which is I will just scan every part of my body and just thank it and by the end you know when I get to my toes from head to toe I'm like so thankful I'm already in a very abundant mind-fed and you know as long as I have my body and I'm still breathing like anything is possible and I get to remember that so that's a really good time to meditate for me as well as when I do like mundane tasks sometimes that I don't want to do like doing the dishes sometimes I kind of turn that into a meditative practice for some people I think meditation at night is good and honestly whenever I have a minute when I'm you know taking a subway or in a taxi sometimes I'll just meditate and any chance I get like really but what about you when do you typically meditate? Morning time. Morning time. Yeah morning time it's just like as soon as you wake up because when I come out of meditation I feel energized so I don't want to do I don't want to do that before I go to sleep I feel like I like doing it first wake up and then I just dedicate 10 minutes to it where I open up my eyes and then I'll have coffee and I'll do whatever I do. Yeah yeah. Usually my routine. Yes another so I you know this is really the theme of what's coming up here is that you know when we talk about mental health we think that we have to do these grand things in fact a lot of the things that I end up working on with my clients is actually going back to the basics of what I'm hearing is like consistent meditation, consistent workout, consistently you know nutrition or eating healthy I mean all of these little micro habits actually turn into you know creating that momentum so that you can actually have that foundation of your mental health that leads to you know a good mental state so. Yeah. Whoa do whatever I'm gonna get a chance you know yep yep yep some tips on what to say to someone to say okay so um yeah what other questions do you guys have for us you guys would love to hear some questions on the wild page I said I asked some and then there was quite a few there was a few people that asked me some questions let's have a look okay so alright these are some questions that oh these are great how to cope with social anxiety um okay so I mean I've never experienced social anxiety but or maybe like a couple of times when I'm in a very very unfamiliar environment I know absolutely no one but I think that that starts with you you know like if you are always consistently like working on yourself and you're able to um you know um improve on your own personal confidence you'll be less likely to be affected by your surroundings and that's where um that's the starting point and that comes down to like you know what you're doing with yourself every single day meditation you know nutrition uh fitness um working on your career all of these things if everything in that sense is going well when you put yourself in uh an unfamiliar environment you'll be less likely to be affected by that environment because you're confident with yourself anxiety I will personally I personally believe that that comes from how I feel about myself during that time um yeah and um social anxiety I believe you know that can stem from about what other people think more than what you think about yourself and you know this is a this is an example that I utilize sometimes on my clients which is if I want to look at you and say you are a pink frog you would look at me and say you're I've been called out before and I look at the pink frog and it is what it is most people would be like okay like uh I don't know what you're talking about um what I'm saying is you know so like certain environment right so it's it's it sounds so ridiculous to hear that someone's calling you a pink frog um what I'm getting at is you know people may call you a lot of different things in your life that may or may not be true about you however a lot of times when we aren't sure of our you know what we're really made of we start to believe these ridiculous things whether you know people are telling you certain things about your looks or you know how you are and you take that on as a part of your identity when you don't have to and that comes from like really getting grounded into knowing who you are and know what you're made of so that you can actually say no that's ridiculous and someone might be like oh if someone were to tell me like you're stupid I'll be like okay that's ridiculous because I I know who I am and that's not a part of my identity and I can just you know go ahead and deflect that away so um when it comes to social anxiety that's something that you guys think about any kind of anxiety comes from you know really taking on like checking in with the external reality more than checking in with your internal reality so again you know just like what you are saying going back to the habits that really build your foundation of who you are and if you guys are watching this right now this is an exercise that you can also try on which is maybe sit down and write down your 10 core values of what you're made of a lot of times we're making decisions based on these core values anyway but we aren't sure what those are but when you can get super clear on what are those things that you truly believe in that you truly are made of you can start to do uh create an alignment in your life so for example for me you know some of my core values is integrity some of my core values include creativity love um so compassion so some of these things so I get to check in and say okay am I am I being true to who I am who I get to be in this world and when I can say yes to that anything what other people think do not matter and in fact um a lot of times people will react to you but they're not actually reacting to you you might think someone's mad or someone's you know being unkind a lot of times that has more to do with their own relationship with themselves rather than they you know what they're really perceiving from you so I hope that helps um did they mean did they make the discord channel yet I believe she has so if she has we'll go ahead and include oh yeah um I think so yeah so uh just to kind of uh refer back here so Melody has created a discord channel I believe um so that we can all have a conversation about mental health you know ongoing conversations so um we will get that link and post that in the comments or in the caption below so that you just can join um what are the questions are there so another one was what are the main barriers that start people from seeking help if they struggle with mental health that's a really good that's a really good one um and again that goes back to how thinking how other people will think of them or how people perceive them you know um and people are often scared about what other people think but here's here's how I view things now I think that most people like 99% of people are always thinking about themselves they're too busy thinking about themselves to worry about you know what's what's going on with you so um you know if let's say you're worried about how it makes you look or how people might might think of you they they really don't think too much about it what's important is how you think about yourself and it's really really important for you to think all right well am I experiencing like you know a little bit of depression a little bit anxiety and everyone goes through it like I never thought that I would go through it but then I felt it and then I came to the reality I was like okay well I probably should do something about this I can either talk to you know my family or my best friends or I can think about like what I need to do with myself to overcome this and how to get myself out of this yeah um but yeah I think that's the main barrier the main barrier is always thinking about what other people may think or um how maybe other people may look at you but really like they're not concerned too much about you they're thinking about themselves and how other people think about themselves that's so true how other people think of them right everyone is naturally born like a little bit selfish and since we're like all right what do you mean a little bit yeah very selfish everyone's thinking about themselves and so because everyone's thinking about themselves you should too you should think about like what I need to do for myself um to take care of my mental health my physical health my everything um and yeah don't be too worried about what other people think I know it's easier said than done but as soon as you can start thinking like I'm much more important than anybody else yeah me like I think I'm more important it's very of course you care about the people around you but the most important person is yourself totally and you know I can speak from my own um my own experience I remember um after my dad passed away and I think after one of my bigger breakups back in the day like I I went and got you know help from a therapist and it was so amazing to be you know just to even like intentionally put myself in that room felt healing felt like healing it felt like self-care because it allowed me to really explore these emotions in a very very safe container and at times I'm not you know I'm not like a psychologist per se but as a coach I hold space for a lot of my clients as well and here's a concept actually when you are able to identify an emotion if it's a negative emotion by talking about it it actually decreases it so that's why it's really powerful for you to be able to give yourself that space to talk about your emotions whether it's you know with your therapist with your coach with your mentor with your friends parents or whatever now the cool thing is when we actually are able to identify a positive emotion it amplifies it so when someone um can see that oh you look happy doesn't that like make you feel happier um and by you know helping other people or helping yourself or other people recognize these emotions if they're positive they're going to amplify it and if it's negative it's going to dissolve it so it is really really healing and I think one of the things um again like this blows my mind because in you know Korea I believe there's a lot of hush hushness about mental health and people seeking health and I see people all the time you know coping with these stressors in an unhealthy way rather than in a healthy way because they never you know it took the time to really understand what's going on and so I just see people that are stressed and that are reacting and I'm like oh you know how wonderful would it be if they're able to either meditate get some help here's a thing in Korea um and it's it's just the culture around here that like you know how people view you and the perception of you is very important it's just you know in in career wise and and stuff like that so that that's why like people are not really facing head on when it comes to the mental health because like they don't want to admit that like this is something they may be experiencing when everyone experiences this every single person experiences this yeah so whatever you guys are feeling whatever you guys are going through especially if you're suffering silently I want to I want this to be a message from the universe for you that you get to you get to acknowledge and you get to feel okay and you get to accept yourself and that you're not alone in that you know um I've had many people in my life who experience um mental health and because they didn't take the proper steps to take care of that it actually led to you know even bigger things like suicide and um you know a part of what I believe in a part of my mission is actually to eliminate suffering from the world because if you look at the word disease it's literally dis ease it's a lack of ease in your body that really leads to not only um you know serious um situations like suicide but actually even physical health can be you know uh endangered you know I believe that diseases like cancer diseases like you know some of these auto immune diseases that come along and we don't know why that happened I can tell you like 99 percent of diseases are all related to stress because we're not supposed to be in a state where we're constantly chronically stressed out we're actually our natural state is ease is abundance is feeling peace in our bodies so yeah I'm curious you guys I would love to hear from you guys what is landing for you guys how is how is everyone doing where are you guys talking in front would love to hear from you guys um when people around you don't believe in mental health how do you make sure that you do have mental health you do have make sure that um I'm I'm assuming okay how when people don't believe in mental how do you even make sure that you do have well you know what like notice that you have more awareness of your body and your health whether it's mental or physical health than anyone else so it's okay it's honestly not a big deal if other people don't believe that you have a mental health you know challenge and you feel like you do listen to your intuition listen to your body like you own your body you can do um you know what feels good for you and if that means getting help from like a counselor at school or seeking out you know different kinds of help in your own way do it um yes love what you said about recognizing negative emotions to decrease them and recognize impotent ones to amplify them currently writing that down in bold letters love it tanner thanks for sharing so let's actually um talk about this real quick like how are you guys feeling if you can identify a positive emotion right now that you're feeling in your body please share like I feel amazing I feel great I feel at ease I feel good like what is a positive emotion right now in this chat that you guys can amplify by identifying it with us real time you feel neutral okay perfect um yeah I can't wait to hear you guys peace neutral relax feel normal at ease I feel excited if you'll come I love it how are you feeling I feel I feel calm that's good I feel calm I feel happy I'm always happy oh this is beautiful I feel home oh yum I feel great I like that I feel grateful I feel growth that is beautiful I feel happy I feel empowered I feel um relax yeah you know what makes me really happy all the time just like funny things so you guys should follow his instagram his reels crack me up it's so fun and I agree I think um I actually talk about this idea of playfulness often yeah playfulness is so healing it's it really is like I don't know like whenever I'm feeling stressed out I'll just like watch something funny or I'll do like I'll make something funny and I'll just be like I'll just laugh to myself because it's just it's silly and then I'll just be in a different mindset I'll just be completely different person than I was like half an hour ago yeah and for me like I dance in the morning so I'm like a crazy person but like I'm like walking to my shower and I'm dancing like I am like waking up my body like listening to some good tunes like that always gets me in like a good state so you know after I wake up I've meditated in my bed thank every part of my body before I open my eyes and I'm dancing to my shower like it's so hard to have a bad day yeah it's like how you start off the day yes yes okay what other questions do you have these are good questions okay um how to tell myself wait how to tell myself I'm normal but to me it's not normal I'm always worried what is your best advice always worried okay first of all can I just say I do not like the word normal none of you guys are normal none of us are normal like what is normal I'm really weird like I'm seriously weird so I don't know like don't believe what you see on the internet don't believe you know what people put out in terms of like their front because everyone is a weirder I love being weird I own my weird it's a good thing yeah why why do you want to be normal I don't want to be normal you know like it is what it is just be happy be you if you're weird and then this people are going to appreciate you for you out there and there's people that don't appreciate you for being you and you don't necessarily need to be around them you know like that brings up another thing like for me my environment is really important to me you know I can wake up and I can have like good vibes and I'm meditated I feel good about myself but then if I surround myself with people that I don't I'm not in that mindset I in that mindset of like you know like a harmful mindset and I can't possibly use all my time to you know put everyone in a positive mindset but you then become a product of the people that you surround yourself with yes so try to change your environment too because I did that I changed my environment when I don't think it's working for me and hey life then life's good I people appreciate me for being a weirder like all of my stuff all my close friends everyone's like all right Len's weird but we love him yes because you're your own unique flavor of weird and that's what makes you awesome right yeah Australians are weird you guys have awesome accents but I love the Australian accent and you guys so yeah normal for me is like a cage I lived a very normal life for a normal life for a long time you know I grew up in Orange County nothing against Orange County is a beautiful place but I grew up thinking that everyone literally in my reality I thought everyone goes to school goes to college graduate work for at a corporate job for like 60 years and then die like I literally thought that was the formula that everyone was supposed to follow to realize when I start to step outside of that reality I realize there's so many opportunities so many different things I can do with my life and I started being so weird and I loved it like I started doing all the things I excited my heart I started painting I started going to poetry jam and you know it uh reading my poetry I started dancing on these things and like I can random things anything that would light up my soul I would do and it started to change like just how I look at life and how there's just so many opportunities out there and yes and how how being weird and have been authentic to who you really are actually for me it freed me it freed me so much so yeah be weird just be okay with being weird it's the best it's liberating you just feel free and you're kind of like I don't have I don't have to pretend to be anyone to do anything to I just gotta I want to be me yeah there's still you know a lot of people saying like how do I become how do I be normal don't don't be normal yeah don't be normal and also um on the part about um one of the questions was how do I stop worrying um you know sometimes we try to suppress our worries and it actually gets amplified so instead you know what I would invite you to do if you have any you know worries that's like running in the back of your mind take a minute like you can have your own worry time so you can literally set aside five minutes ten minutes where you get to all you do is worry intensely you write down write down all your worries and you acknowledge them and then after the 10 minutes you just rip that page out and go about your day knowing that you can come back to that space of worrying the next day and you'll have plenty of space for it but for the rest of your day you get to actually carry on not worrying knowing that you have time to worry um intentionally another thing is um worrying you guys is praying for what you don't want every words that we say into the universe is technically like a spell so if you're like I really really hope you know um I get I don't fail my test tomorrow or whatever you're actually creating this visual in your mind and speaking into the universe what you don't want and guess what whatever vision that we give more energy to more attention to it's more likely to happen this is why visualizations are really powerful so what if instead of worrying about what could go wrong you give energy to what could go right oh I can't wait to do well on that test I can't wait to find out how that went and really you know focusing on that can bring your thoughts back into um a positive state and another thing you guys is that you're not your worries you're not your thoughts you're not your emotions you are like we talked about you're a soul with the physical body and sometimes we have these chemicals that are firing up in our brain that make us think that we are those things we are thoughts we are our stressors we are um our emotions but notice that there's a part of you that's really observing those thoughts observing those emotions and there's that that being that's not those things or else you wouldn't be noticing them you would be them so when you can actually create and acknowledge that space between your thoughts whether they're worries or whatever and your emotions and notice that there's a being behind that that's watching it happen focus on that being part and that's why I think meditation is really powerful because that's how you get to really connect deeply with that part of you which is your soul so I saw a really um I saw a question in there like maybe two minutes ago and it was um I assume you know a lot of you are still teenagers or you're young 20s and one of the question was like how do you um deal with depression when your parents don't understand and what I'll say to that is like you know I love my parents and my parents are very loving I'm very lucky um but like they don't understand a lot about me or my sister you know maybe what we're doing what we're going through how we're feeling because parents are human still you know like parents that they don't get everything right and it doesn't mean that if you tell them that you feel like you have depression maybe they think that you're overreacting maybe they think that it's a phase I don't know but this is something that you've got to take in control for yourself you know whether you're you know a teenager or you're you feel like you're still not an adult yet you can start you can think about yourself no matter what age you are and you can be like all right well if my parents don't understand or if my friends don't understand I understand and I can deal with myself I'm not going to rely on the people around me um to kind of understand what's going on with me I'm going to take into action what I think that is going to get me through this you know so you know it'd be great if your parents could understand you but that doesn't mean like all parents will always understand so that's my answer to that because a lot of the time my parents haven't understood what I'm going through you know my choices in life but you know I've I've made it through because I there are things that my parents can help me with or understand what I'm going through but there's a lot that they can't understand so I need to deal with that myself yeah so please you know your parents don't understand take action into your own hands and be like okay what do I need to do myself that's really empowering um to really take the charge you know take the power back to know that you can take care of you before even your parents or even your friends or it doesn't really matter what they think as long as if you acknowledge that you want support or help that's something that you get to do for yourself absolutely yeah it's kind of like all right you know I'm from a traditional Asian family so like my parents be like I want you to be a lawyer or banker or a doctor but like deep down you know when I was maybe 13 14 I didn't want to do that maybe I want to be a professional athlete but they didn't want me to do that what am I going to do am I going to give that dream away because that's what they wanted it's the same type of thing where like you know your parents think they they you know always know what's best but they don't truly know what you want and you need to take everything into your own hands yeah and try to understand what it is that you require you are your own human being you are your own adult yeah that's really powerful I love that I'm curious like what did that look like for you because you did really take a different um route like you became an entrepreneur you became an actor you became a model I feel like that's a very non-normal non-traditional route what did that look like for you standing up for your dreams and standing up for that route that you wanted to take and I'm kind of curious like how did your parents react to that um you know my my my parents um they're very traditional you know they're Chinese Singaporeans they want stability they want this they want that but what they we grew up in a different generation you know that simply put like we didn't have things like the incident they didn't have things like the incident around growing up and um you know a lot of you are going to grow up in a different generation than I am now I'm 31 so like I'm still much older than I'm guessing a lot of our audience today but um I had to you know think about what I wanted to do with my life um and I was very you know I'm a risk taker but at the same time I like to know exactly what I'm getting myself into so I you know I I thought to myself if I want to do something as long as I work as hard as possible something will come out of it you know you you can want something in your life but if you're not willing to work for it or give yourself the right direction to achieve something nothing's really going to happen um but I think the world is changing and if you want to do whatever it is that you want to do just dedicate yourself to it dedicate you know a year or two and then reassess is it something that I should be doing with my life if not it's never too late to change you know I mean there's no like stop when it comes to there's no like age limit when it comes to something you know I started these two successful companies at the age of like 20 29 and then there's people out there that started a successful company at 19 and there's a success there's people out there that started one when they were 40 50 there's really no limitations it's about how you wake up and how you want to use your time yeah yeah it's no right answer because you have to wake up and you have to do what you want to do every day so you decide that don't let anybody else decide that for you but success is directly correlated to how much effort and how much work you're willing to put in and how much passion you put into your work yeah so and also believing in yourself yeah you can self-activate that definitely um yeah absolutely yeah and um so yeah I'm curious how are you guys doing what's landing for you what is you know what is resonating with you out there would love to hear from you guys um and you know again today we're here um you're right now by the way you guys if you guys are logging on right now you are on site to go which is the largest mental health um on my magazine and youtube channel in the world for those of you guys who are here right now and making a stand for yourself and really learning educating yourself about mental health and really in this process of healing yourself or you know healing with professionals or whatever um know that you are part of this movement you know we're here to really bring awareness um of mental health to the world and know that you're okay wherever you are and to bring you know healing to every single person because I do 1000% believe that when everyone can take the power back of their own healing their own mental health like this world will become better um for sure so yeah yes yes yes so I saw another thing about oh no I missed it sorry yeah so I'm curious were there any other questions that we can address well he's gotten a bunch of questions on his instagram and by the way what is your instagram and people want to follow you oh so my instagram is it should be in the the caption there but um it's it's lennadlim it's l-e-o-n-a-r-d-l-i-m and yeah I mean leave me a comment leave me a message um telling me you know you've you've seen me from here and then like maybe we can connect I would love to hear like where you guys are coming from how you're doing um but I think um yeah one of the questions was um like how do you deal with overprotective parents that's a that's another parent thing and I keep going back to this question because you know I've actually had a I mean it's a sad story and I don't want to bring up specifics but I had a a friend a staff member lose a family member um because of mental health and depression um and it was I don't know if there was like overprotectiveness but it was like a parent parent relationship and um what I'll say is that like parents can be you know can be overprotective and sometimes they're not but that's just their way of showing love and um I mean I think that um again it goes back to like you thinking about what you need to do for yourself yeah and whether it's overprotective parents or anything else that you see as an obstacle right now remember that the universe is always conspiring for you to be happy and for you to be successful and I share this because my parents were very very overprotective for a long time but because of that I became this person who had to like stand strong in my convictions who had to make a stand for things that I really wanted and um you know I actually ended up leaving I used to live in Colorado in high school and then I moved away to California because I wanted to create my own path so even though they were overprotective because of that it actually strengthened more of my rebellious side it strengthened my um conviction about who I am because I had to because I felt like if I fell under that um I would just you know become who they wanted me to be so it pushed me into this direction where I got to like really create my life more powerfully so in that way I'm even thankful for my overprotective parents because in in the process of in the journey of it I actually became exactly who I got to be and I'm thankful for that so notice like you know all these things that's happening in your life whether it's your parents or whatever notice who you're becoming in that process and notice that it's all happening for you even if it doesn't seem like it and even you know my my dad's passing um back in the day it was you know a very very difficult thing and trust me like during those times I had my share of grief anxiety depression like all of those things came up because I was losing somebody that I really love but looking back even that I can say like that was happening for me even though it's really hard to say in a sense that you know because of my dad passing I ended up leaving my corporate job I started my you know passion uh my career that I'm passionate about where I get to deeply help people heal and you know live a happier life and it really put me on this trajectory of the path that I really needed to go so whatever you're going through right now know that it's happening for you even if it's hard for you to accept that right in this moment one day you're going to look back and be able to connect the dots and realize realize that it was all happening for you all along so I just wanted to share that with you guys and um yeah Leonard so how how does it feel to connect with the psych to go audience and I know that you guys have actually a partnership starting with psych to go and some exciting things happening share you know a little bit about that for us um you know wild entertainment my my company which is we have like over 50 plus uh content creators celebrities artists and we're going to have a partnership with psych to go and hopefully we'll have more and more of people in entertainment voicing out you know their experiences with mental health uh maybe we'll do some write up on articles um but we're going to be sharing a lot of our perspective and bringing more normality to the whole topic like I'm rarely seen talking like anything serious I mean for those of you that have seen me on the internet it's always something just like really silly really playful playful really funny because that's that's me I'm like I love to just have fun um because when I'm not working and I'm on the internet it's always just fun but I think that this is such an important topic because like I've been through it I've been through it my family members have been through it my friends have been through it everyone goes through it and I just want everyone you know the audience to know that like like everyone does go through this because I mean if you visit my Instagram after you'll probably look at the photos the videos and be like there's no way this guy's ever been sad because he's just like I'm always just laughing being funny like I just make silly videos I post like you know happy content and that's because I'm actually genuinely happy but there's you know happy and sad it's normal yeah and I just want I wanted to connect with an audience to to know that like I go through this too and yeah I love that I love what you said about normalizing these things that come up in life like emotional challenges mental challenges there's something called law of rhythm in the universe and that really says that everything has a rhythm everything has a season and what I know about myself and a lot of people around me probably every single person in the world is that not everyone's always going to be in a certain season you know just like there's you know spring and summer and fall and winter like we go through these different seasons in life and you know wherever you guys are you're perfect wherever you guys are like know that you're gonna there's going to be a different season that's coming and even if and that's another thing too even if you are happy like really anchor into that feeling and know that things might not always be there you know in a way that it's going to always keep you happy and also know that's okay but really connect to that present moment so that you can really enjoy enjoy everything fully every season fully as much as possible so I'm so excited to see what you guys create you know what I love about what you guys are creating as a partnership with psych2go and wild entertainment is that I don't know about you guys but for me when I look at some of these celebrities when I look at some of these people on you know Instagram they have massive following like they look like they really are happy all the time they are living this perfect life but I think it's going to be so powerful to hear directly from those people to know that every single person even if it looks like they're living a perfect life they're going through things and for them to really speak up about that I think will be really comforting as well as empowering for a lot of us I'm really really excited to see what you guys create and so yeah me too me too yeah wait you know we wanted to uh so like we create a lot of all types of content you know my my creators we have you know comedy beauty fashion lifestyle and everything music but we wanted to do something you know that's really important which is invincible you know we want to take a moment to like talk about what's important as well yeah so um thank you everybody for hopping on today I really really appreciate you guys um take a moment right now with us to acknowledge like one to three things that you're grateful for either from the stream either to psych to go or either about yourself I would love to hear from you guys like today I'm so thankful for psych to go for creating the space for us to um have a little chat and connect with all of you guys it's always an honor to connect with every single one of you guys as well as I'm grateful for you for creating the space with us yeah thanks for having me yeah and I'm grateful for everyone who's logged on it's so good to have you guys here probably I'm grateful for you know the new forum like this to talk about something you know a little bit more serious but very very important in life um I've never really talked about anything really seriously internet before except when I'm talking about business maybe but this is it's really important and um yeah I'm grateful for so many things this being the one that comes to head right comes to my mind right now yeah yeah well thank you guys so much um feel free to follow us on Instagram mine is at Yuri1C and yours is at it's Leonard Lim just leave us a leave me a comment leave me a message um and yeah just interact with me I would love to hear from you guys yeah thank you so much for all the questions for all the participation for I know some of you guys probably been here with us for the last hour so really really appreciate all of you guys I hope you have a magical day magical week um May is a mental health awareness month so we're having these extra chats on site to go to really acknowledge that and really come together to bring more awareness please please share a video from site to go with your loved one so that we can really spread this awareness and create this movement towards bringing more awareness as well as healing to the world that's really what we are passionate about here so again thank you guys so much love you guys I love you guys thank you so much for being here and we will be back probably soon bye y'all bye guys