 All right, so I see we have all seven of us here today. It's very excited. So given that, I'll call to order the meeting of the report commission. And we're looking at the motion that's for GM. And the remote commissioner could please acknowledge their presence for the record. Robin Gillian. To me. Excellent. Thank you. And we move on to item two, which is the agenda. Do I have a motion to group the agenda as presented? So moved. Move by Allen. Is there a second second. Any discussion or proposed changes to the agenda? We can alternate today. All right. Go ahead. Yes. I'd like to move. I believe the commissioner item to be with the other sound installation. And noise complaint items, if possible. Sure. So. Any, okay. So I wouldn't have to be above before item eight is my proposal. All right. So we have. We have that on the floor. Any other proposed amendments to the agenda? All right. Hearing none, all those in favor of approving the agenda as proposed to be amended. Please signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed. All right. We have our amended agenda. We move on to item three, which is public form. Is there anyone from the public who wishes to speak today? None. All right. We'll close down public form. We'll move on to item four, which is the consent agenda. Do I hear a motion to approve the contents of the consent agenda as presented? Move by Jeff second by Helen. Nick. Any discussion on contents? Just a few things. One big increase over last year. So we're 10% on the employment. This particular month, July over July of 2022, which is great news. We're still not quite back up to the 2019 numbers. But if you look at our fiscal year today, which is closer to the bottom and also in the chart there on page two, we're getting pretty close. Our calendar year today through July is 370,000. So we're doing really well from calendar year to date to calendar year to date 2019, which was our highest year in 10 years that particular year. And I'll also report that this past Monday was the highest number or the most passengers out of bounds. That's TSA security process that just over 2700 outbound past years alone. So we just hit that number. September always is a little bit lower of a month airline schedule. So I believe you can always see the dip in September, even on our employment numbers. When you look at it on a NATO basis. So we're going to see that again this year, but it's going to be consistent with the two months. 19 scheduled air carriers. And we're going to see the leaf beepers in October numbers from right back up. So numbers looking really good for this year. All right. Commissioner. Any questions for Nick on the contents of the consent? Hearing none. All those in favor of approving the contents. Consent agenda. We signify by saying hi. Hi. Opposed. Thank you. Item five. Second five. Action items. We start with 5.1 and GSA lease. I'd be willing to entertain a motion to recommend to the city council, the approval of lease agreement. Amendment with the U S general services administration. So by Helen. Second by Jeff. Discussion to be led by Nick. Sure. So this is a relatively simple. Amendment. It is a change from an amendment that you've seen in the past. As the memo states, we have not signed to that amendment because circumstances have changed. The prior amendment that you looked at and recommended. Was to. Be located. TSA. Which is managed by. GSA. The general services administration. To an alternate office location. Because of project next in our terminal renovations project. And working with the transportation security administration. We found. Alternate solutions for their permanent relocation. Therefore we're not moving forward with the amendment. That you've seen in the past. But we are moving forward with this particular amendment. Number two. This does not take into account the new office space that we're designing. You're going to see an amendment number three. When we finish designing their new offices. This is merely to. Remove old office space that they had. That's why you see a nominal. $30,000 decrease. In revenue to the airport. But that revenue in the associate square footage will. Increased. With amendment number three. We have our architect near teams on that right now. Not much more to share on that. Except that this particular amendment is just a decreased number for now. What are you doing? You're about to say something. No. I know. Three letters. I don't like. You know, in all honesty. Sometimes it's. Challenging to work through multiple government agencies. That are managed by. An agency that's not here every single day, knowing that the backbone of the airport. So there, there were some challenging pieces, but I think we came to a great solution with both PSA and GSA. Is that new. The GSA being part of this. I don't recall that. They're definitely. GSA was more proactively looking at all the government leases. So we went through the same scenario with the national weather service. Where we had a direct. Lease originally with national weather service or. The atmosphere. And GSA came in. And they were. Leasing agency from now on. And that's what we signed our new deal with. GSA has always been a part of the TSA's. Real estate transactions. But so that's TSA real estate office, the separate office for real estate. So you can start seeing that it gets. Multiple at a pass to this, this conversation, but overall it's, it's a great solution, great new office space, permanent space that is out of the way of all future projects. And I'm truly appropriate for the TSA agency and their, this is for their leadership team to be at this airport. I won't care too. That. We did try to bid on the over all yesterday. Office spaces. Because they're currently at the Kimball Avenue site. There's a office building on Kimball Avenue. TSA for the state of Vermont is currently in that location. We did bid on that to relocate them to the TSA. And that's what we're doing. And that's what we're doing. And that's what we're doing. That's what we're doing. We're, we're, we're not currently at that location. We did bid on that to relocate them to the airport. Here. However the bids were, were. We were not select. Well, we didn't, we actually did never bid on it because the bid timeline was too short and it was. It was clear that they, that there was a direction that they wanted to go in. commissioner's questions for Nick. Nick, just one for me. So in the compression of the space from roughly 2900 to 2200, what's the expected duration of that before they expand back up again? It's going to be about a year and a half. Yep. All right, commissioners, all those in favor, please identify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? 5.1 carries, move on to item 5.2. I'd be willing to entertain a motion to recommend to the city council the approval of an easement to the Champlain Water District. So moved. Moved by Helen. Right. And second by Jeff. Discussion? Basically, this is on National Guard Drive down below the airport on the opposite over other side of the, uh, Air Force, um, the tank, um, there's a road they need to put in a, uh, structure for their water system. And they, and it's on our property. So we're just basically giving them an easement to, for, for access to maintain and, and utilize. So, so for their system. So it's very simple. All right, commissioners, any questions for Larry? All right. Hearing none, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? That carries. And we move on to item 5.3. I'd be willing to entertain a motion to recommend to the board of finance the approval of a vehicle we purchased through New Car Board. So moved. So moved by Helen. Second by Jeff. And I'm going to translate you this one. Of course, you know, Dave Carmen, Deputy Director of Aviation Operations also here with us. I believe you've all met him. It's Andrew Gettner. Andrew has recently been promoted and is our new airfield manager, which manages both the airfield and the equipment that we have out there, uh, under Dave leadership. So, uh, I'll hand it over to you. Excellent. So this vehicle is a replacement vehicle for actually one of the older pieces of equipment. Older vehicles we have 2011, uh, F 350, but this right size is the type of vehicle that we need for what it's going to be doing on the airfield, which is, uh, a lot of calling trailers as well as, um, uh, carrying the, um, the sorting for me, which is the, uh, solid ESP used for the, uh, for DS, by the way is, uh, basically what this is, is we're trading in two vehicles, uh, for this, we had trading credit of $23,000 for both those vehicles to bring the total price to $55,152.90 cents. And, uh, one of the vehicles that are being traded in are going to be, it's going to be replaced by a electric vehicle. So this new big one couldn't be electric. Not in that size, right? Not in that size. And the, the quantity of hours that we're going to be needing to use it. But the exciting news, and I desperately was trying to coordinate this so that we could present it all together. If it's priming on the purpose of this particular Ford vehicle, uh, was pretty instrumental to make sure that we have it on-site prior to the winter time. Uh, we are, uh, purchasing three new electric vehicles, uh, three electric vehicles that the airport will, for the first time ever, be in three electric vehicles. So these will be two new trucks and, uh, an SUV for daily operations of, uh, the airport. And that's where we're starting to make our, uh, aggressive trans, uh, transformation into an electric vehicle as much as we possibly can. But I wasn't able to get into this. Okay. But we learned that. Yeah, exactly. All right. Mister, is there any questions today? Okay. Uh, Nick, with this aggressive, uh, transformation into an electric fleet, I imagine that we have a number of charging stations that are set up to allow that and encourage that transformation. No. Okay. So we have 12 electric charging, well, probably 14 electric charging stations because of a couple of residual ones, in the parking garage, right? And those are for our customers and we're also looking at expanding the number of units out there as well, or at least upgrading them. However, when these new electric vehicles come into the fleet, we need to make sure we have charging stations at the appropriate stations that these vehicles are going to be assigned to. Uh, if, for example, the airfield shop and mainly the terminal and our new snow removal equipment that we're designing right now. So as we, as we purchase these, we're working with the Burlington Electric Department and cream up how to install additional chargers specific for our fleet. I'm sorry. Finish. Well, I just had a quick follow up. Um, and the source of that electricity that's going to be used to power those new vehicles. I know that we've talked, you've talked about the sort of, uh, the number of different diverse systems that we're trying to sort of plug into. Uh, how is, how are those batteries going to be charged? So we're using green mountain power and Burlington Electric Department. We have both utility companies that they've built here. BED is mostly responsible for terminal area or the geographic area, JMP is everything else. Both of those companies are now 100% renewable energy sourced. So we're using that electricity. And as we design our new buildings, like the terminal project for our new snow removal maintenance building, we're looking at making sure that sustainable items are added to power as much as we possibly can, whether that's solar or other means. But for now, those sources are from 100%. Okay. I just had a, um, at the city council meeting last night, um, the city of South Burlington agreed to, um, make a proposal for, there's a federal and state program for, I think it's municipalities, but I would be curious if it included, um, airports to, um, fund station, um, you know, charging stations and we've applied for four at our public works and four at, um, I can't remember where. For the fleet. For our fleet. Yeah. And I'm just curious if you were aware. So I will, I can't remember the name of the logo, um, but I will send it to you. I don't know if it's available for airports, but it's worth looking into for a good amount of money. We were, we were going for $500,000 or something. Wow. It's, it's, and that's why we are working with our utility companies too, because there's, there's other offers. There's rebates and there's also offers associated with adding charging stations. We haven't heard of this. Well, maybe the city of Wellington can, because they are a municipality, but it's not very good job for a director of planning. I will take that. Okay. We will send you. And just related to what Helen mentioned, I think under the new federal IRA, inflation reduction act, I think there's tax credits up to $6,000 for going from a gas powered vehicle to an electric. Yeah. Excellent. And, and that was our way of working with BED, especially BED. Although both companies do offer those, those, uh, the guidance to make sure that we're following not to get some of those credits or rebates. It's exciting though. We, you know, obviously that's not about the F550, but it's making a huge step forward. Obviously that too, you know, after we, um, and it's crazy. And these aren't just cars that are going to be sitting. Two of these vehicles are going to be right now. We're looking at the forward lightnings because they're on a state bid. Uh, right now, one, both of them, one is going to be assigned to the airfield associated with, uh, I'm sorry to the term, sorry, Andrew, uh, which is going to be our, their only daily vehicle for everything that they do, uh, for all of our facilities maintenance, not just the terminal, but also all of our other buildings. And the other one is assigned to Dave and Stacy, which is our operations department. So that will be the primary operations vehicle again, daily checks out there. I'm very excited about it. We should see savings in fuel too. I think so. Absolutely. I just went to another meeting, the South Bronx, and we were celebrating a year of using four electric buses that within a year traveled 29,000 miles and they saved, you know, nine tons of carbon. I mean, you know, so it, those are things that if you're looking for metrics to share with the public in terms of reaching, um, goals, you really can track it. And it's very impressive. Certainly. So these guys are driving around all day long. You've probably put on a lot of miles. That's what I'm expecting. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Commissioners, any further discussion on this topic? Seeing that, all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Right. That brings to close 5.3. We move on to item six, which is just the construction update from Larry. Okay. First, I'd like to say, um, I think, you know, everybody's read the report, um, you'll notice that there's a lot of projects that are going through closeout. That means that the, the grant is approaching four years old. In fact, we have one grant that approaches four years old this month and the rest will start next year, if you will be next year. So it's become a priority for me to get these things closed out so we can get, get the final reimbursement for the 10% we don't get till we get these closed out. And I can clean up this list and, and, and, and slim this report. Secondly, I think I've provided photos, information, and the report is, if you have any questions, I have, you know, I can answer any questions. The exciting part is we are scheduled next week to meet with the FAA to review our five year CIP with them, which is concentrated really on the next year's funding, but also looking out for the four years beyond that. Next year, we are planning on applying for projects with a value of $75 million, which is huge, which is the runway 1533 rehabilitation, then the next project, the North relocation of the North Concourse and the SRE building, which is all funded, all types of funding is being used entitlement, discretionary, progressively direct good spending, and bipartisan infrastructure bill money. So the money's already been scheduled for that, but we will be focusing on those three projects for grant applications next year. And I provided, like I said, I provided photos, you'll see that the way out, but it's moving along in great shape on schedule, should be done by the end of the month or close to it. The cell apron, as you can see the storm water infrastructure is going in, the mass excavation is going on, which means that they put the subbase on and end up basically paving it. Pavement on that cell apron is dependent on how we're doing it. Of course, we're getting summer now after not having summer. So hopefully that continues into late fall and we can get pavement done this year, but that all depends on the weather. So are there any questions about internet here? I guess my priority now is come to the top of the pile is to get these surrogates closed out because they're approaching three or four years, both and we're done. Nice to shrink the size of your report. Yeah, that would be nice. I mean, we love the work you're doing, like half of these are closed out. Yeah, I could remove them if not. So that's my goal is to get these things closed out, because we want to clean everything up with the other act. So Nick, did I miss anything? No. All right, commissioners, any comments or questions for Larry? All right. Thank you, Larry. We move on to item seven and community connection, 7.1 noise data from Anna. So I reported on the noise comments through the 18, I was out this past two weeks, so I can follow up with an updated graph for those items for the comments by town and the comments by aircraft, happy to do that to update those. We also added it's under to the parcel map as well. I think we added last month, but they updated it a little bit so you can see the still it's set parceled out from the 65 to 66 DNL individually all the way through 75 to 76. So it's a little bit more detailed. That's under the second item there. Those are the only things I really wanted to point out for this month. If you have any questions. So on that, what's the difference between the dots and the line? So the lines are the actual contour or average DNL. So orange line is the 75 and then all the way on the outer edge green line is the 65. The dots are specific parcels, so houses and each dot is color coded to see within them that one decibel level or average decibel level where they're located. So when you go to the outside, you see more of a darker blue, which is clearly in the 65 to 66 range. Each one of these houses, we dive even further to the to the 10th of a decimal point, which average decibel level they're in. And that's what determines the their eligibility in the sound mitigation program. And then of course, if you get closer, you see the orange to red dots, which are in the higher left. That's all I'm thinking. Really this map is, I mean, you can run maps with those contour lines with however many you want to, but the FAA requires these three particular lines. Richard, any questions for Hannah? Yeah. All right, then 7.2, the residential sound installation program update. Okay. I think I reported last month that we had an issue with a window supplier for phases one and two, which was initially the pilot in the second phase of these projects. That's been resolved. We're finishing up the by American. We did sign the contract with the contractor for the modification to go to a different supplier. And we will be starting on the phase one and phase two homes on September 25th, with the goal of being finished by the end of the year for those homes. We did receive the grant for phase three, which includes the 52 homes that were designed under the phase two grant. So that was about five million dollars we received for construction. So we did that and we're moving through the contractor by American phase and all that kind of stuff right now. Also in phase three, also what was included there was the money to reach out to the next 50 homes and start designing those next 50. So the projects that we have decided to have funding for right now under phase one and phase two will start September 25th, late due to the window manufacturer phase three construction, which was designed in phase two, which is we'll start in the spring next year of the 52 homes. And we over this winter, we'll start engaging with the next 50 or so homes. You know, it'll be more than that. We're identifying a lot more than that because people don't always want it done. So and about 50% of those homes are actually at Winnowski. So that's an update. And that prepares us of course for next year as this grant that we just received two weeks ago as we design those out, we're going to be prepared to apply for another $5 million grant by May of next year, build those houses and design the next 50. So change my $75 million to $80 million. Can you let the people who know, I guess there's 12 that are going to get their windows pretty soon. Have they been notified about the stuff? Yeah. All each and every one of our consultants and ourselves are reaching out directly to them because it is it is an unfortunate. Well, it's hard to wait. It's been many years and then it's been many years and it's been, you know, of course, we've been working with these particular homeowners for 12 months at least to design it and of course wait for the funding to build it. So uncontrolled circumstances of the bankruptcy of this window manufacturer and thankfully the FAA was on board with approving this next component so that we can get these purchased right away. But all of them are aware and all of them are very eager and very anxious of course it's September 2 so we need to consider that timing to put this in and we're working delicately with these first one out of the houses and of course the next. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. I'm curious for the Winooski homes that you're planning if you're coordinating with city staff. We have a new housing director that you met earlier this summer and others for outreach, any landlord, supporter assistance with contact information, anything along those lines. I know it's we might be a little far out but I'm not sure if you've already gotten that far. I can we can make that happen. We're probably at that time to start reaching out to that because we will be we have to sign the contract for this next phase but yeah that'll be happening over the next several months so we can do that. So like Larry said we just got a grant for this next phase just a few weeks ago. We have not signed the contract with Jones Pay Group we're just finalizing that now so we can execute it and then absolutely would be very happy to coordinate with city staff same with South Carolina to do that as well. Yeah that would be appreciated. Thank you. And a follow-up question. So this the insulation sound insulation phasing is based off of the 2019 noise exposure map. I'm curious if that will change at all if the contour lines are adjusted with an updated noise exposure map. Great question. Will the contour lines change? I don't know until the the radar information and the schedule that we shared all comes to fruition would be later next year. If the contours change however the same houses and less for some reason the 65 DNL came dramatically closer to the airport which I am not saying it will be. The same houses are next in line for the sound insulation program so that those houses would not change in if they're already in a grant. We would not be changing those houses I think either way whether it's designed construction or or application for the following year to construct the ones that we just designed. So nothing would change with the homeowners and the property owners and the tenants that we're working with today. The only thing that would change is part of the noise contour map would be the very outer edges of eligibility that might change but again it's unknown at this time. Right and obviously yes it is unknown and it's not too far of a stretch to do the thought exercise of if those change how would that impact the sound insulation efforts. I feel like that's an easy question for me to get at City Council. As far as what product we're putting into a house and in terms of the number of houses that might receive sound insulation if the contour lines are expanded or or another there's also the possibility they could be adjusted inward as opposed to expanded outwards so there's a number of possibilities they don't change they expand outward or they move inward in which case in what ways if any might that change the sound insulation phasing and plans. Really not at all because it's again it's just the 65 or the the properties that are closest to the 65 that would change and we are years away from from approaching those homeowners so it really wouldn't change at all. It might change more dramatically for South Burlington depending on where the contour line changes on the east and west side of the airport versus when you ski because there are that contour lines go further into a new ski but again the property owners that we're working with today regardless of where they are in the process we're going to continue to work with and then next houses in the left that are outside of the 65 because of the change map would still be next in the process. Okay thanks. While we're talking about noise exposure map what we did also click the noise exposure map schedule this will be our updated 2024 existing conditions noise exposure map as well as a five-year future forecast. Both maps are required by the FAA. You need this map to apply for all of these grant fundings that we're talking about today so this is an update to our noise map you can see it does take us to a public a few public meetings both our technical advisory committee meetings and a grant noise exposure map in prominent period in late spring early summer next year 2024 so we're diligently working with our consultants HMMH as well as the Jones pain group are the consultants for this particular project we have the grant we have the projects or the contracts and we're just moving forward with kicking off our technical advisory committee performing the technical advisory committee with with feedback from yourselves as well as the community and then collecting lots and lots of data for air track control, Air and Aircraft Guard, Army National Guard, Heritage Aviation and your attendance many many different groups to make sure that we have the accurate information data type of aircraft etc operationally into this pattern so within within around nine months we'll be looking at a noise exposure map that news news exposure map of course would then be D-Map and really we're looking at the 2029 map that would be the map for eligibility for our sound insulation program or any of our noise compatibility programs. That's really effort for noise of course unless there's questions we have our noise exposure map update we have for sound insulation program update and both of those currently are happening right now and we're going to have a public meeting next week that's going to have some of this information but you're probably ever got that your list of topics. That's a good point and then the more we say it the better. September 14th, September 14th at the Chamber of Elementary School we're having a public meeting two purposes one to talk about the new multi-use recreational path and one to update the community on our noise compatibility programs inclusive of noise mapping and sound insulation. Very great. Related to noise exposure a couple meetings ago maybe four or five I mentioned a story about traveling on 89 especially north and how suddenly it was that sort of overcast day you know how this large this intense noise was right over the car and I could just sort of see an accident perhaps happening this is people were wondering if it was a crossing passing or what the world that sound was at that time you mentioned that you were aware I suggested that maybe Department of Transportation might be able to put up some signs coordinate with the airport let riders know when when planes are taking off especially the large military military planes I know that nothing's been done on that and I'm not calming you out in any certain way on that but I just don't want to lose that part and I know that as we start to take care of these homes which should be done first then that there might be some ancillary issues that that flow from noise that perhaps could occupy. Oh excellent that that is a great point we did request those signs both on 89 and on line kicking our passion road. So we'll follow up with what's to to see if there's a dish plan we have a follow-up. All right commissioners any other discussion on this point? All right hearing none we will move on to the relocated item nine commissioner items the brand you want to take this one. Sure thank you yeah I just wanted to make sure we had a little bit more space and time to discuss this as you know I'd asked earlier the summer about who would be on the committees how people would be named to the committees etc I got some additional information from Nick and the team this past week so thank you for passing that along it looks like some updates have been made to the sound btv sound website so again thank you for making some updates to that. Earlier this summer you mentioned two committees so the technical advisory committee which is on the work plan that's shared in the packet you'd also mentioned a regional advisory committee but that's not named on the work plan packet I'm curious if that is still intended to be convened? It's a combination so I misspoke and combined our different projects so I for the regional and the technical advisory committees we formed that as part of our master planning process not as part of our noise program for the noise program we had our our TAC committee which is inclusive of our regional advisors every I mean we can name we can rename the committee if we need to but it is an all-inclusive committee or meeting with both representatives of town and our technical folks which I think is really important to make sure that the users and the providers of the aircraft are also at these meetings that we can start having an open dialogue on operational aspects that get entered into our noise data so it is just the single committee as part of the NEA process. Okay so for my clarification the list you shared with us this past week is that for the noise planning efforts? Correct. Okay. It's specific to our noise exposure map but we're gonna that that meeting is going to be a very broad conversation about all of the noise projects. Okay. Thanks and we had our mayor and city manager had asked about if there was any process to nominate additional folks to be considered for the technical advisory committee and the mayor mentioned a couple other schools that we have K through 12 schools I see St. Mike's on your list and was also curious about CCB in Winooski as another consideration for potential nominees for that committee. Absolutely. I believe we actually had CCB on our last meeting so we're oh yeah we do have CCB on it. Yes we do have CCB on the committee and the suggested members from the other school districts we're going to reach out to those as well. I think that's great I think that makes a lot of sense and as far as your first question there is no official or formal process for nominations or adding this truly is a public meeting. We're going to be we'll be advertising these and posting these on the website and these are also as far as the committee and the conversation goes we'll have a we'll add folks for those that that would like to be added based on some of these recommendations. Okay yeah if there's I it may already be on the BTV Sound website but if there's a way to sign up for newsletters or notifications that might be helpful to to add for folks that want to get specific heads up for when meetings are. I and speaking of that I'm on the Burlington City Clerk portal and I don't see the September 14th public meeting posted there would it be posted somewhere else yeah next week's meeting yeah so we advertised it in the other paper where we posted it on a front porch forum it is on our city website we're coordinating with South Burlington's community catalog your websites or at least a link to the airport one social media and pay the sponsor advertising within the community what else am I missing for advertising we've done a pretty robust advertising over the last couple weeks on this particular meeting yeah and maybe it's just I maybe it isn't something that would normally be posted on the website along with the Burlington Electric Commission the DRB those are boards in city council meetings and board meetings from the city council or airport permission meetings those are those are those informative public meetings okay all right great thanks for clarifying that I think I had one more question can I just interrupt that that point can that be something that is added to the spot on the website around the city website around the airport commission so to identify some other groups or meetings on on the city of Burlington's website that's that's what Brynn was talking about she went is that right you went to the city of Burlington's website and couldn't find anything about this and I'm just wondering if there's a way to post it with the airport commission you know information so that because that would be a logical place for people to go I think yeah um for some yeah let me think about that yeah I don't know how you do it but yeah the civic clerk site or the board site is is for those um those are all of the meetings associated with public meeting law and um you know require for advertising I don't see why not it yeah let me think about that work with the city to see if there's a way I think South Burlington did post it on the meeting last for next week well maybe not I haven't checked that but I mean in the past when we had the fact that I remember seeing it on our website somewhere okay so maybe it's possible for Burlington to do that as well I don't I don't see why I'm not maybe it's not a secret and you want it to be well publicized that's right yeah we can work with our IT director to figure out how we can logistically do that that's what certainly my mind is happy to do that I'm sorry thank you no I appreciate it um yeah I don't know if you add for some of your notifications if you include our um communications director for the city of Winooski but um you know he he certainly would benefit from having a heads up a win um public engagement opportunities are so we can cross post those through our levels as well is that still Paul Paul yes yeah great absolutely yeah thank you um yeah I think those were kind of some of the main were the main questions I had I wanted to just have a little bit more time to um have a sense for the work plan the timing um the communications uh leading up to various public meetings and hearings what to expect on the website um things along those lines so um I appreciate adding this to the agenda today thank you Bryn uh we now move on to the directors oh one other quick question that's related to the previous minutes and the presentation by Nick Claver just wondering if he mentioned that that or someone mentioned that city council your presentations by him I'm just wondering if that happened and how that was received or any sort of feedback um that's that's my first item on my report I guess I just eager to all right so let's move on to the directors report so you don't have to wait much longer I'm just kidding that's my second item oh I have to make some introductions first so I'm super excited and incredibly happy that our reorganization process went through then you all very much four years to four of course this was several months ago everything's coming together and we've hired many many new people we've promoted a few folks and we are introducing new folks to our airport team I think I've already introduced both Stacey Levely and Andrew Gettner Stacey is not here right now but she shall join us in future meetings I'm sure both Andrew and Stacey report today really focus on safety security and field equipment both Stacey and Andrew were internal candidates and promoted from within the airport uh Stacey is the operations manager and Andrew as I mentioned before is our airfield manager so congratulations to both of them and uh if you want to say anything you can report and next up on our list is Mr Jeff Bartley Jeff has accepted a position as the director of innovation and marketing I'll let Jeff introduce himself but I am so excited to get Jeff on site here he officially had not started yet he starts 12 days but uh very excited to get him on board again that position he was a new brand new position as part of our reorganization and is going to be very welcome as part of the leadership team Jeff to Jeff Bartley I'm coming to be a champagne valley fair the 10 best days in summer which ended three days ago thankfully but I'm excited for this opportunity I know this is a high functioning high performing team and so I'm clapping up the bits to get moving on the 18th they got one more event I got to see the next one through um so thank you I appreciate you all and that's some additional updates on the reorganization we do have three positions now remaining essentially in our total reorganization the deputy director of aviation administration is still ongoing we're going through our third process for that position and just last week I we posted two our last two managing positions which would report to this new deputy director of aviation administration um so that uh we're not going to have anybody by October but hopefully we'll have some good same November and December time for it to fail all of our positions so Nick just on that because I know that we were hoping to not post the manager positions until we have the deputy director in place so does this indicate that that's taking longer to fill then correct yeah the deputy director position great candidates and I haven't uh I have not ruled out any of the candidates that are going through the process today however I'd like to see a little bit more movement on the true manager positions even even prior to selecting or possibly reposting our deputy director position and doing a larger search for for more competition okay thank you but yes that was the original intention was to hire a deputy director first uh taking a little bit longer how broad was the search for our manager positions they're they're local we do no I'm at the deputy oh deputy director position we post on our industry website so that's a national okay advertisement and it's very geared towards of course the aviation report industry um we're most likely going to be working with a larger firm which does a little bit more an advertised promotion and you know a bigger outreach and national I heard that was I don't know now I heard it too uh so updates on the presentation by attorney Nick Klappers from our last meeting on the regulation of aeronautical activities we did put this in front of our transportation utility and energy committee which is a subcommittee of the Burlington City Council had a very similar presentation that was shared with you I shared that with them had great feedback had some community and public feedback as well some good questions that were able to be answered during that that particular meeting by attorney Klappers uh he uh yeah he was able to to to present very similar that conversation also ended with a motion on the presentation and that motion was to accept the presentation and information and submit it to the whole city council of Burlington and then of course at the discretion of the councillor is whether it would be on a consent agenda item or a deliberative uh conversational uh item that's still to be determined on which meeting and which type of agenda is going to be put on of course at the at the purview of the city council president um I thought I thought it went really fantastic again lots of interaction both at a public forum in some back and forth with some community members on regulatory aspects as well as of course the committee members which are city councillors of Burlington uh both Gene Bergman councillor Gene Bergman and councillor Mark Bartolo were very interested in this this conversation and I am looking forward actually to to reviewing that with the city council as they so choose thank you uh next item on my list here is um Larry did have it in his construction report I did just want to report that Larry and I reviewed our future capital program with Marie Marie's not able to join us today but with Marie and we have a letter already said we have an 80 million dollar next year program but we have a very robust aggressive capital program specific with federal funding uh over the next five years next week we are meeting with our FAA delegation from the airport district office of New England and we're going to be reviewing and essentially approving these projects over the next three to five years uh of course it just doesn't happen once a year we have oh my gosh weekly monthly wait we're on the phone quite a bit with our our FAA partners so they're very aware of our capital program this is the official and it's the guidance that they have been delivered every year it has to go through this process and and reviewed and approved essentially within this process so that they can put this into the funding request with the total federal delegation and budget review so that's happening next week we're uh and very excited to move that forward uh with one like FAA we found another well topic yeah yeah so essentially we do um so the FAA has an airport district office and that's New England which was directed by by the director uh his name is Luke Garrison uh amazing person and really really strong relationship with the director um and then each sub department so when we're talking about safety for example Dave has a liaison for our certification of our airfield and our inspections if we're talking about planning projects noise or master planning and Larry and I usually have that direct conversation with a planner and that's their title uh same with construction with regard to a construction then we have one single construction liaison and the they have of course many of them in office but one is assigned to pertinent air so and the environmental which is south president south reports and really really great partnership um may i say better than ever it's a really great partnership that that we have uh hence the reason we have such a strong aggressive possible capital program great um quick update on project next which is the north terminal replacement uh we're over 30 design on that particular project uh we are we haven't been that project out as a construction manager at risk process as we as we explained at the prior meeting this allows us to hire a contractor very early in the process so that we can have that contractor and the design team working together to design this new building and hopefully look at every single angle appropriately um and and save us costs and time in the long run it's a highly complicated many many phased project so we want to make sure we have the right folks and the right team and the um the right budget in place prior to moving this forward uh having to report that we have gone through the request for qualifications process again this isn't a full design and that bit select the lowest bidder process this is we designed 30 we bid out the the qualifications for contractors based on the 30 design and we went through an extremely independent and robust scoring process to select the contractor for this project uh we did receive five bids on the project and we selected one contractor to move forward based on the qualifications the experience on similar projects the pricing that they they put forward and that pricing of course isn't for the full project it's for the time from today to a guaranteed maximum price what is it going to cost us to fully design this project with our contractor in hand um and those bits came back from zero dollars all the way to uh close to three hundred thousand dollars um to report on interview too so and then we we had a very intricate interview process with the finalists the three finalists um again we had five original bidders narrowed down three selected the contractor that's moving forward with us which will be angle birth construction they had an amazing team they had a great presentation all of it it's very very difficult and like I said independent scoring process they um they bid zero dollars which is fantastic for the financial purpose of the airport so that we can really design this with their help they'll have their own architect team and and engineers on this uh do a guaranteed maximum price that that's at about 80 percent of the design uh we're going to come in forward to you with the next probably the next month uh we'll get a contract so you see that uh with our engineering firm and that'll get us to our guaranteed maximum price that guaranteed maximum price is the price of the construction so that'll be close to 35 and 40 million dollars and that's guaranteed to angle that's guaranteed to that's why they'll be needed for zero well the angle birth that's right angle birth will get hundreds of subcontractor proposals and bids for the the subs for the work I mean like we did with the qta there were hundreds of people that bid on the portions of the qta different aspects of it so this really helps and construction manager at risk this really puts the risk in construction manager at risk because they don't get anything if we don't there's no guarantee until we sign a 90 price with no property object it's Florida with pricing doesn't get hard by so that the risk right now is on the contractor to get us to what we're looking for and it was an extremely robust approval process with the fba this is uh this is one of the first projects in new england that i'm aware of that fba is approved however across the country it is a very normal process for airports to start moving towards so that the risk is on the contractor initially and that there's limited change orders in the future because they're part of the design right off the panel and we're not opening a bid and finding out it's 10 million more than we have that's right you know we're five million or two or whatever we're gonna we're gonna help the way so we go get right and have that highly competitive process for the subs following through yeah so making a lot of progress we get a lot of work over the winter to do both getting to a design getting to permitting and really getting ready for construction for next year we have a lot of permitting this winter so it's a lot it's perfect it will be in front of many south front of the block for the next couple months yeah um uh quitshift to the north terminal renovations projects if you walked up this this top lower hallway i'm sure you saw uh we have both of our automatic exit lancing one in the north one at downstairs in the south uh they're working fantastically much better than we had at least i had much better than i anticipated new technology so there's a little bit of um uh holding our breath as we instituted this but their fantastic passengers love them the flow of traffic and experience truly is much better and the new area especially in the north renovation area is just totally and completely different larger space more seating all receiving is now installed and a much broader area for passengers to sit eat grab a cup of coffee and just get a little bit of elbow room up on the north side so we're we're weeks away from really finishing that project we are looking to actually purchase two new two more automatic exit lanes so that we have that redundancy in there at bays and you can improve some of this we're just working our way through some of the paperwork to see if we can actually do that as part of this grant not a hundred percent sure yeah but we'll see otherwise it's a great phenomenal uh in my album and it looks really really good um same with the hotel just a quick update on the hotel uh they also they in te w corporation who is the hotel construction contractor and uh coordinate uh is the hotel management company they are finishing up their design of the spring hail suites uh that design does require some amendments in south burlington's permitting process so we'll be doing that over this fall and winter and they are scheduled to start troubles on the ground april of 2024 for the new spring hail suites btv hotel is that been announced publicly yes yeah yes uh because we did go through a couple of couple of different versions of this only allowed exclusively here's um how many how many uh that's 125 about rooms what about rooms all right what about rooms uh so really looking forward to that once we once we finish up some of the the fun finishing drawings of this we'll come back with a full presentation both with d w uh to share some of those updates and their or formal process looks great looks really great uh if i talk about the september 14th that's next week that is our public meeting on our community landscaping and recreational path uh as well as updates to our noise programs so it's a dual meeting uh september 14th at 6 30 p.m uh that's being held at the chamberlain elementary school um and we're we're really going to hold it in a town hall style meeting we're going to be verbally talking about these projects we have many poster boards to share with the community on new record not concept recreational path concepts it's not a final design so we want to hear from the community and the neighbors and and those that are adjacent to or or anybody um to this new uh investment and we'll share those details in the pathway design uh we've worked significantly with the city of south brones and staff uh both in the planning of all connor has been a huge help uh all the way to jesse laborer and of course the dbw team uh to make sure we're we're designing this an appropriate way to take herbs and other required necessities around the community um and to attach to existing public amenities like bike paths all the kennedy drive all the way over to existing natural resource uh areas um uh i'm looking really looking forward to that meeting works you know we've robustly advertised as this at the floor and uh we're we're hoping and expecting a great turnout in the community uh feedback both back and forth uh on both of those programs our rep ad as well as everyone's uh i larry and i was straight after this meeting we're going to be attending the south brunton natural resource board uh this is related to the september 14 bike path meeting we're going to be sharing our those initial concepts with that board um i've met with the board two times already over the last six to eight months as well as some of the board members specifically to make sure that we're we're hitting some of the highlights of um what the board truly looks at like like natural um uh species of plantings that are going out there as well as uh where the bike path and preservation of existing trees and other uh areas uh they've been they've also been a very big help after this meeting after this commission meeting we'll be at the natural resources board to present those details uh and answer any questions of data also three and then four years ago we did go through the drb process for a master plan and sexual and for this for this project four years four years now yeah thank you um it's the uh quick update on the patrick lady burlington and we're at airport uh branding changes uh we're making very great progress and expecting a community event sometime in october uh date to be determined um and we're we're still moving forward with our branding and our logo redesign and rename uh so we have some great exciting news of course uh and uh i invite and we'll uh i've asked him to invite um the commissioners if there are any questions or or feedback uh initially um happy to go through some of them um again uh we're planning a uh celebration uh sometime in october that we'll make sure that we invite you all to and that's all i have for you tonight i have a quick question good right um just to have to care us that i didn't think about it before are we changing the three-letter identifier for the airport that is not changing btv thank you god i just was like wow the f a a implications of that um okay so nothing changes so it does it so when you do the branding it's going to say patrick lehi and then burlington international airport or that's that's right it'll say it'll formally it'll have our official new name the patrick play burlington international airport also known as btv okay cool thank you absolutely uh yes dave had one more thing and this weekend september 9th so in three days um is an amazing awesome really great exciting day uh for many reasons but one of the reasons is because it is our three-year required triennial emergency exercise every three years we are required by the f a the whole day uh essentially an exercise to simulate a um an event like an aircraft incident uh that that would require mutual aid response from all of our community members this is a major event and a huge kudos to to dave karmic for for supporting this and organizing this working through this uh and we're expecting 140 150 people um plus all of our mutual aid responders from asics to wiliston to south burlington uh colchester winewski uh to uh at least bring a truck or two to support the exercise and simulate an event of this nature we have actors that will be portraying an arm and uh yeah portraying some of these things um and it is a surreal event and extremely serious uh exercise that all of us get to uh simulate like i said but also um practice our roles if there are it and is a emergency event from a triaging situation all the way to communication media relations everything uh it's the family at france um responses uh so airlines tsa the air or airport operations for my international guard is a major component of this event um as well like i said as are all of our mutual aid responders yeah ambulance is hospital like you know if you know that's yeah it's because part of the airport most of it is part of that scale exercise great the hospital is part of this event so the we'll actually be transporting our actor passengers to the hospital so they can also simulate um some mass injury simulated exercise to them uh we'll be posting on social media there might be some fake uh smoke and things like that to simulate the event so we'll be posting and and we you know displaying signs so nobody's looking out the window at three defense because uh while we're not using an aircraft uh there'll be school buses uh which essentially is an aircraft without the wings they'll be out on our airfield um but we want to make sure everybody knows this is just an exercise just so you're not doing it while during the day or evening when you actually have real flights taken oh it's it's it'll be intertwined with that it'll be done um all morning not saturday so the people coming to take their flights are notified of this correct no the back to the traffic okay um is there are they going to restrict any of the traffic nick are we closing runways are we uh we will be closing one of our runways for the for the morning yes all right i will be closed and it's already no dumbed out and all that i'm like the last one to know not not unusual yeah it is not it is not uh notified to air missions that that's what no temp stands for is to notice the air mission uh it's not nowhere in doubt right now maybe because um many of the the uh the players right the people that are simulating being on the job when an event like this happens of course they're not part of the planning process for who are simulating this event so when our phone rings well right happen that phone call will say there is an event at a particular location on the airfield and and uh you know part right so part of it is um it's done in real time and you can only have it's it's evaluated right you guys get evaluated on your on your response and you can't get a proper evaluation if everything is too scripted that's exactly right this is highly evaluated we've hired a consultant team uh to develop I think 80 to 10 people who are consolidated to fly in tomorrow you know evaluating every firm everything from the hospital response to our airport operations team our maintenance response our engineering response as well as airlines and you name it it's being very evaluated and of course we'll we'll learn from it and we'll make sure we implement any of the things that we learn and discuss into our airport emergency plan which is a very robust and formal plan for responses yeah that's all right mission's anything else for nick or move on i was wondering if a rat that was going to play nick i'm playing drag oh us all right we'll move on to item 10 which is follow-up items so 10.1 is the q permits for taxi i do have an update for you on this particular one however no action tonight um so the update is uh i was going to get additional information on the airport commissions we're all unioned legal authority to make changes to our taxi driver queuing permits that we sell the city of burlington regulates all vehicles for hiders or there's inspection process and the license and process that goes through the city of burlington however the airport has a separate segment of permits that we sell right now i think we're around 45 47 i don't know if anner jillian you know the exact number uh somewhere in average yeah um that we currently sell that number was authorized by the airport commission and our legal team has has been able to research this which goes back decades um but this this is the authority and only the authority of the airport commission to make the determination on the number of taxi queue permits sold at this airport uh i would like your but i'd also like city councils feedback in the mayor's feedback on um you know just shifting that a little bit that was essentially made back in the 90s even in the 80s but isn't what's recently in the 90s based on traffic flow and all of these other circumstances to allow uh quantity of updrivers to tend to be the same for me um however for now because that's going to take much longer for now at the next meeting or not it's over i will add this as an option item to increase to recommend increasing the number of queue permits sold at this airport in in my research both working with the vehicle for hire for a board working directly with taxi driver owners and operators as well as some of the representatives of the the vehicle for hire and taxi community that are on the board um and see these interactions every day it is very clear that we uh the the set number that we sell today is far too low we need additional permits out there um some we do have an issue with specifically between 11 p.m and 1 a.m 2 a.m in the morning when our late flights are coming in there's not a lot of incentive for some of these drivers to come out here even though it's extremely busy we can have a thousand passengers coming on those planes during those couple of hours um however the permitting is the quantity of permits is absolutely needed to increase the availability the waiting list right now is over 50 taxi drivers uh are just not having perfect so they have this airport and uh and want to and that doesn't include uber of course that does not include uber but uber and lyft are regulated under a different program called the transportation network company program we have a separate contract with with tnc networks um and they are also charged separately which is at this airport two dollars per pickup and drop off uh in downtown burlington it's a little bit different um uh costs eventually and over time as we work on construction and improvements to our front entrance i would like to see an automatic system so instead of q permits sold we would sell a device to go into a vehicle uh which would raise and lower a gate to access q in the queuing line out there so we and and we make control that and control the revenue associated with that as well pretty much based on a pickup and drop off as a cost of a queue permit five uh just over five hundred dollars a year and unlimited sort of whereas like i said uber and lyft are being charged two dollars per pickup and drop off which immediately goes on to that uh cost to the passenger all right jim um nick thank you for that just as a heads up as you're preparing to present this next time i i had the privilege or the burden of being on the council as we roped the uber regs and if you can provide us with some data not just about the demand side of why you know what the queue is but a better understanding of how uber and lyft fit with that because they're separate and i'm just i'm not convinced that by and i i also recall the taxi drivers being you know it was treated it was a privilege i'm just not sure going ahead and issuing what the impact will be so having the uber data not just the taxi data i think will be helpful to this board and coming up with a recommendation excellent i can i can do that thank you all right commissioners anything else on this topic okay i really like the idea the sound of the idea of having the the people with the permit having some sort of task to sort of raise the game because i'm just thinking i'm i i'm probably wrong with this that any person could get in that line and just pick someone up um theoretically yes absolutely if there is no controls no control visit the barrier controls that would say otherwise however our master team accidentally monitors that so they have to check in with the ambassadors and fit into the queue line and we have our ambassadors out there throughout our operational time periods including midnight and early morning so but it can also be very busy and the ambassadors have other roles out there both in the security and a passenger experience perspective so so yes something could happen for sure where an unpermitted driver could come in there well i feel better now that the ambassador is out there especially late at night and stuff like that so yeah they do they do a really good job they they also log some of this information not every single driver but they log some of this information we do have different tiers of of classification so we have a queue permit but also have a contract permit for example hotel shuttle buses or shuttle bus which is another conversation we'll probably end up having especially it's our new hotel conference on our right now we charge around a hundred and five dollars per year for a hotel to make free the gossips that's a little bit concerning today so there's there's other there's other avenues that we can set these access control methods into that queueing line concerning and well wait we're not charging enough yeah well it seems so the other guys are being charged well well from those perspectives right the hotel of carol is i mean i guess from the hotel room right you're making the revenue to to pay for that similar to a taxi driver to pay for your queue permit but what we're not seeing is the parking revenue so when when i hope when we want to hope and there's lots of advertising cuts are out of the community where you can spend a night in a hotel and park for three well days or seven days and then get dropped off for free at the airport so just just some control methods to make sure that we collect the appropriate data to share with you and others which is that after the girls and so nick are the taxi drivers required to just use the meter or can they just charge whatever they want no there's a very set rules of costs maximum costs airport costs associated with that they have to use the meter there's there's very regulated rules by the city of berlington that they have to there's also a what's the word i'm thinking of a method to report any misuse or or perceived misuse of those rules to the vehicle for a higher board and there's there's hearings and everything associated with allegations are misuse of some of the taxi regulations interesting i've had some very different fares charged from those taxi drivers so i was very curious about that thanks right there's anything else on item 10.1 all right and then before we conclude this commissioners is there anything that we've talked about today that you would like to be like to have added to this discussion in the section for next month so that we remember to circle back to it so anything that came up that peaked your interest today. All right so hearing none we will close down follow-up items so next up is a proposed executive session so i would entertain a motion to move into executive sessions discuss these negotiations with the berlington school district where premature disclosure might place the city and the airport at a disadvantage. Are those recommended motions on there no two motions oh they weren't in the in the packet when i looked at it they weren't there but i kind of winged that one okay okay but if you have something you're looking to read instead yeah all right so so i'm making the two motions concurrently no no yeah so i'd like to i would entertain a motion that the i would like to move move that we have an executive this this is which should enter into an executive session to hear information concerning contract negotiations regarding the problems in school district which would clearly which would clearly place the city at its disadvantage if they part of general public knowledge okay let me find out let's hear a second sorry so we move into no and then you do a further one that says who can be here right oh the next the next movement sorry that it's a two phase helens right the next phase is based on those findings there's a motion to go into executive session and noting for the record who from airport staff will be included in that conversation okay so there we only have the first second so i said you vote on the first option so all those in favor of the motion on the floor please signify by saying aye aye opposed okay so based upon so second motion based upon that finding i'd entertain a motion that the commission go into executive section to receive confidential updates on its contract negotiations regarding the problems in school district and don't you include the people and and invite include who is going to be at okay which would be just airport staff okay so commissioners and the airport staff which is Larry, Hannah, Andrew, Jillian, Dave and myself okay but Dave is here right where did you okay okay i will move to that okay thank you how i can say thank you any discussion all those who don't have heard uh we'll vote first okay then are these guys gonna just that was my question what happens with including there's tom btb right so we traditionally got a separate sign and i don't know if we can sit with them tonight what's that can we just shut up no because we have permission or something we used to have a separate Zoom session so he's actually he's in the chat saying he's stepping out