 I'm sorry, would you please call the roll? Here. Yes. Here. Here. Here. Thank you. Microphone seemed rather alert today. They are. There's some improvements in here or something. I don't know. I don't know. Thanks, Chris. It's a tip today. We can go. They don't want to make sense into the day. All right. It's tougher. All right. Let's find the roll. Congratulations, Mr. Mayor. Read me down. Thanks for the word. Well, Lord, you've allowed us to come to this place today to discuss the business of our city. We would ask that you might touch us individually and collectively. Hours to sense and yet to be sensitive to what we hear and what we act on. Bless us and keep us. Amen. Amen. Amen. Mr. Mayor, at this time, we will start our city council discussion with the first item, the Richland Penny Bull and Elmwood intersection, is Raven Gambrale, engineer with Richland Penny Program. And then I'll just go ahead and announce the second item because I know Raven and David are working together. There will be also an update on the Richland Penny Hampton and Calhoun Road Diet Projects with Mr. David Beatty, the program manager for the Richland Penny Program. Thanks, Raven. Good afternoon. Thank you so much for having us today. It's always a nice opportunity to get to talk about one of our projects and a project that we get to work so closely with the city on. Again, my name is Raven Gambrale and I manage projects for the Richland County Penny Sales Tax Program. I work for HDR, an engineering company. First, I wanted to go over just a brief overview of the history and the project needs, and then I'll go over what we plan to change with the project. The project was included in the referendum in 2012 that was voted on by the citizens of Richland County. The project was originally progressed through the Bull Street Development work that was done, and they did a lot of public outreach and worked with a lot of you in that effort as well and also had a public meeting here in 2016. In 2017, the Penny Sales Tax Program took over the project and since then we have been progressing the design and coordinating with both the city and SDDOT for the design activities. Our project is about 95%, 90 to 95% done at this time. The purpose of the project is to improve traffic operations through the Bull Street and Elmwood Avenue intersection. It's also to improve the safety and we also wanna make sure that we accommodate pedestrians as they go through the intersection. Just to quickly I'll go over a little bit of numbers. You can see that there's about 73 accidents over a three year period and we wanna help mitigate some of those accidents. About 22 of those were sidewalks related to some of the dual turning movements. Right now there's instances where two lanes will turn into three and it is a little confusing for drivers and so our project will help to eliminate some of those confusing movements. This shows the level of service which is essentially just the quality of the traffic through the intersection and it's ranked from an A to an F with A being very easy to get through the intersection and we're showing here the AM which is the seven to nine time frame and the PM is the four to six time frame and then in the parentheses is seconds and essentially it's your second delay. Eastbound would be going on Elmwood towards Bull Street and you'll see the difference which is in italics that you gain about three minutes in the PM that four to six time frame as you're going that direction and as you scroll all the way over to the right side of the table you'll notice that there is about a one sec I mean a one minute improvement overall in the morning and about two minutes in the afternoon so that's just a real reflection of it'll it'll save you time during your day just to get through the intersection. Right, but what is build versus no build? Okay, yes, thank you for asking. No build is the intersection as it is today and the build would be with the improvements that we're proposing. I'm sorry, so with the improvements you're proposing it only goes to a D? That is correct, you'll see that and that's a good thing to bring up. The intersection itself is constrained we have a historic wall against the Bull Street property there's also the church that's in one of the quadrants as well in the gas station so it is hard to do a full scale you can't really add additional lanes in this area so they're doing modifications which although it may not move you up in the alphabetical type evaluation it does greatly reduce and save time through the intersection. Here's just a general overview of the existing conditions. You'll see eastbound on Elmwood you have one left turn, a left through and then a dual right turning movements onto Bull. Bull as you're going northbound you can see you have those dual left turn movements a through and a through right which through is just straight through the intersection and then you also notice right here you have three lanes as you're going south on Bull Street I want to bring that to your attention because as I show you the improvements you'll see some changes right there this right lane is just a dedicated right turn onto Calhoun which is directly below Elmwood and then you'll notice that you have your right turning movement going southbound and then another right through lane adjacent to it. So let's see what we are changing with the intersection. This is a schematic of the proposed improvements through the intersection. One of the changes is that they're adding an additional lane along Elmwood. So now you'll have the left lane the left through a through and dual rights and then one of the bigger changes is now I showed you before that you had three lanes here on southbound Bull the right most lane which was just that dedicated right onto Calhoun is now being removed and the lanes are shifted over slightly. This allows for to maintain that dual left movement but then it gives you two throughs and a through right which feed directly into the three lanes across the intersection. Then as you're coming into town from 277 you'll notice you have this right turn movement the right turn movement is more of a free flow movement it is pedestrian controlled so there's a button you can push to stop the movement for the pedestrians and then you also have larger truck turning movements will turn from the second right turn lane and then you also have your through and then you're left again as well. So we're gonna go from three to two it's probably one of the most busiest turn coming in off of Elmwood on the Bull that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. You're adding a lane to the other side which already has four lanes but you're taking away from another place which is gonna end up causing more traffic issues especially coming in here where people are still trying to switch lanes because it happens every time you ride through that intersection. Right and that movement in itself because of the fact that you were turning from those two lanes into those three lanes did result in some of those crashes. I'm talking about you're gonna end up backing up traffic because you're gonna congest a highly and that is in the morning time at the peak if you're riding through there it's stacked up already and now you're reducing to add one to the other side which has less on going out or maybe coming in. The creepy move called the backup. And then you've already got all these folks who are already coming into the intersection still confused and switching lanes so you're actually gonna probably create more of a hazard on this side of it. Right they have studied with the traffic impact analysis they did study some of the adjacent intersections and how this impacts and effects and have taken that into consideration in the study. This movement that you would be turning into this right lane is very short and only turns directly onto it's a strict just straight right turn movement onto Calhoun. So now it gets these movements two lanes into two lanes going straight through. And I think what she's saying because that's where I come in in the morning from going straight to my office. What happens is you've got folks in the far right lane and as they make a right they know if they stay in that right lane they have to make a right on Calhoun so they turn right but then they try to immediately get over into the other lane and then but you've got the other people who are in the middle right lane they're in there as well. And so correct me if I'm wrong where you've been I guess what you're saying is you're reducing it but you're taking out that dedicated right lane. So as you've got those two who are turning right they still could stay. Well you're creating the more of a backup going the other way. You're not, I mean from what I'm seeing and just what when you're coming this way I mean you're gonna back up because you're stacking because you don't have that third stack lane. I mean that's the way I see it when I come right through there. And you're talking from full street that way from 277? From Elmwood and the board. No, I wouldn't go. How would you make a turn on the Calhoun and now you've got the dedicated lane. So turn is just not dedicated. Right now you have to turn right. But now. Is there gonna be an advance there? No, it'll be more of like a right through. So essentially similar to this lane right here as you're approaching full street commons. You can either choose to go through or go right. Is that the corner we see most of those pedestrian incidents at? Oh, the pedestrian that was asked for. Right, yes. That's why it's okay. That's right. And that lane on that block is just one block, right? It's just a dedicated turn on the Calhoun. It is a Calhoun. That's right. That's correct. It's only one block. Mr. Davis, I've got a question to go back, go forward. Now the truck lane, is that a, is signage going to indicate dedication for trucks? Yes. And not the far left, far right. That is correct. There'll be advanced signage that'll hang over the street so that it'll tell you which lane that the truck turning movements need to be made in. It's this one. That particular, actually. That one will be in the fraction. And so, Raven, is that that part where you just were? Is that an actual median? What is that? It is, it's a raised concrete area. Yes, just to separate that free flow movement from the other movement. Raven, is there a corresponding increase in the traffic? I guess Mr. Brickin is talking about coming east off on Elmwood. I mean, you'll see you'll reduce the direct driving turning onto the bull, obviously. We're gonna start seeing more cars stacked up coming off the 26th, coming to Gordesville. It is my understanding, no, from the traffic analysis and the things that they've prepared and looked at. Okay, let's keep on moving, though. Are you gonna talk about the no-turns Yes, so, thank you. Yes, so basically, thank you Ms. Wilson. With these improvements, it does mean that there'll be some loss of on-street parking along Elmwood, specifically between Wallace and Bull and then between Marion and Bull. One of the things that's we've been corresponding with the Department of Transportation is that they have a safety concern and have provided some crash data. To justify, and they have dictated, closing the median across our Marion Street. So right now, you're able to turn left onto Marion Street or to turn left out of Marion Street onto Elmwood and the Department of Transportation. There'll be a lot of no-name deli fans, man. That's a great idea. And you know that's an impact on a driver. But that is a bad way to talk. That's right, that's right. You made that turn out to be dangerous. We're certainly thankful to be here to tell you about this as well and make you aware of this. They, D.O.T. did pull- And they're taking away the Calhoun designated line so you're double-hitting them. Because that's your turn around and you miss it, you come right back. We can't agree to be trying to agree. Because if you miss it, for the first time, as you can't get over it. I know you love all these state-tree engineers, but keep on going. Yes, and just a couple other things to note from the drawing. I haven't been fixing roads since 2004. That we will, there will be some right-of-way acquisition required. Some over here in the Bull Street development area. So can you, so the green on the Bull Street side, is that being covered by the penny? Or is that being done by the developer? There is a little bit of it that's being done by the penny to help tie in to their roadway. So we need to make sure what improvements we're putting in tie in to what they have. So we will be doing some. The red line that you see on the page, that is essentially what area we're looking to acquire because there's gonna be massed-arm signals and other things there, so that we need to make sure that. Don't overpay, it's 90,000 an acre. Make sure they charge you the same amount they do to everybody else. Thank you, I will write that down. And then a couple of other impacts I just wanna note to make sure that you're aware of. With respect to the Elmwood Church of God, I have gotten the opportunity to speak with them a couple of times. They had three drives along Elmwood, and with this project, and just the safety of the free-for-right, those three drives are proposed to be removed, and then they will still have access along Wallace, and that will become their major access point. There are also some trees along this area, some larger trees that will need to be removed for some of the construction of the project. Back over to the bull street. Are those bump-outs there that you see? They seem to be protruding out a little further, so are those... I don't believe there... There will be some construction there. It allows for us to have the crosswalk. I cannot tell you. I guess I'm trying to say that in the middle section is that a bump-out to protect the folks walking? Is that essentially what that's for? And to line up, if you don't mind if I go back to one, and to somewhat line up more with what they have today. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, and then the mast arm will actually be in the center of this median for the signal. I've discussed most of these already, some removal of the on-street parking, the closure at the Marion Street, driveway closure, right-of-way acquisition. Where is the on-street parking? Okay, there's currently some on-street parking. I believe it's approximately five spaces, right through here, actually, yeah, right here. And there's about six right down here. And then this is just a closer view of the Elma Church of God. Pretty much went over all the impacts there. And then this one is at the gas station. You'll notice that the radius is increased. This allows for those turning movements, those truck turning movements. What's the cost of the project? Right now, our overall project cost is about 3.2 million, and that includes every aspect, design, construction, social inspection, right away. We get neither money back. And we expect this will have, this will obviously mitigate the accidents. What do we think it'll do to traffic flow? The, it should, yes, about, and some of the movements, it was up to about a three-minute improvement in the time that you would get through the intersection three minutes faster. In every direction? No, not in every direction. Of course, I'm curious about coming off of 277. Okay, that would be the southbound. And then in the morning, it looks to be about 30 seconds. And then in the afternoon, it doesn't increase a good bit more. That is correct. So you'll be able to continually move unless someone does stop for pedestrians. We do have a signal that allows them to push it and stop for the pedestrian. So I'm understanding that's completely. The southbound, obviously, 277 and it should go from 72 seconds to 43.1 seconds to go from where to where. I'm sorry. Just to get through the intersection. As you're going southbound. Once you get to the intersection. Right, to get through the intersection. To the intersection. Yes. And David, will you all be communicating and be widely with the city so we can help the communication during the construction process? Absolutely. And leading up to it. On my south quarter three of 2019 and maybe quarter four, there's no best time to ever do these things, but I'm trying to think about timing and food. Right, and we want to make sure that we also incorporate some of the, if we can incorporate events, since there's a big event facility right there. But we are under, right now, we've just began the right-of-way acquisition phase and we're doing a little title research and then we'll start approaching different property owners. So we want to make sure you're aware of this before we start doing those as well. Thank you. I noticed this weekend when I was coming into town on Sunday, which is I think, Robert, I called him and I was going on Elmwood was shut down, but that was DOT, I think. Is there the ability to work on Sundays for these projects? I don't know, we're a little far out, but is that a consideration? Right. Has that been going on during the work day? What was happening on Sunday? That would have been a disaster. We will include some laying closure restrictions and some restrictions within the contractor based on DOT standards because of how busy this intersection is. We have your cell phone number to give constituents when they call. I can certainly provide it. She'll have a new one by a few three of 2019. Which in all seriousness is why we asked David on those years of the transportation penny project. It is a project in the city, but it is being administered by their team. And as is the next project that has some interesting things that I'll just know about. Thank you, Wavie. I'm getting caught. I'm making some health advancing. This is where you've handled some of the issues in the past. I think North Main Street. Can we make sure we spend some time with those folks at North, I mean, at the devil? Just to figure out there any ways we can help them. Marketing, mitigation, just let's just think about it. I think, I assume they're probably the most adverse they affected themselves. And we've done some stuff in the past. Wonderful staff directed. All right. Thank you very much. I'm David Beatty with the penny program. I work with Raven. Thank y'all for having us today. And I will try to be as brief as I can. The Richland Penny project included in the original referendum back in 2012, 87 separate bikeways that were all listed and they each had an anticipated dollar amount included in the referendum. Well, of the 87, we kind of narrowed it down to what we thought that there were seven that could potentially be a road diet, which a road diet is when you remove one of the lanes. So we identified about seven and we decided to move forward studying Calhoun and Hampton as the most likely to advance at that time. So we had a public meeting back in June. We had about 55 persons in attendance. It was worked by both city staff and the penny team staff. 52 comments were received both at the meeting and over a two week period after the meeting. It was about two thirds were in support of the both Calhoun and Hampton road diets and then about a third either did not support them or had some concerns about each. So we put two thirds in the positive category, one third in the not positive or with concerns. On Calhoun we really had two concerns and that was the St. Timothy's Episcopal Church along Calhoun between Lincoln and Park had a concern with losing up to 10 spots with an older congregation. They needed every spot close to the church and then transitions had a concern about losing about 10 or 12 spots close to transitions was their concern. And then the third group of concerns was really with loss of parking in general. And that was more focused along Hampton than it was on Calhoun. On Hampton, what we went to the public with is we were gonna begin the project really at Maine and do Sheroes, which is just a pavement marking, no lane modifications, it's just a bicycle symbol with two triangles above it that you can see today on Lady and Maine. We're gonna do Sheroes in that one block and then really going all the way from Sumter to Hardin, what we're gonna do is take the four nine foot lanes and replace them with three 11 foot lanes. And I'll explain more about that in just a second. Now on Calhoun is a little bit different. We're gonna do the beginning of the job in Sheroes really from Wayne onto Lincoln is what we went to the public with and that ended up being a concern of St. Timothy's. Then we were gonna do a road diet really beginning from Lincoln and going all the way to Pickens on the other side of Bull and then once you got past Pickens we were gonna do Sheroes again all the way to Hardin. And this is just a picture of what will the Sheroes look like. On the left is existing a two lane road with parking and we just paint the symbols on the road and that alerts traffic that there may be both cars and bicycles on that route. Now a road diet, this is what I'm talking about. There's a lot of four lane roads in the city of Columbia with nine foot lanes. And on the left is the existing condition along a lot of Hampton and Calhoun. You have six feet of parking on both sides and then four nine foot lanes. And the issue with four nine foot lanes is they're too narrow to be quite honest. And they don't have the capacity of what you would think four lanes should because driving most vehicles you shy away from the car that's immediately on your right. And if you're in the right lane you shy away from the parked cars. So you never truly have two cars traveling next to each other in the same direction. The Vine Street has the same issue. Lady Washington. So the road really doesn't act like the capacity of a four lane. Then if you have anybody turning left they block the lane and the person behind them has to go around them creating the opportunity for accidents. So what we would propose, remove parking on the north side only. And at this point this is what we showed on both Calhoun and Hampton. If we remove the parking on one side and we change the four nines, three 11s we could add a five foot bike path and then park cars on the other side. And so this scenario with a road diet improved traffic and you improve safety and add bike accommodations, but you lose parking. Those are your pros and your cons. I've kind of explained the whole shy distance. Originally what we're showing and where we're at today is on Calhoun to mitigate the public's concerns. What we're recommending to you is that we leave the parking in front of St. Timothy's Church on Calhoun between Lincoln and Park right behind the federal courthouse and go with Cheros. Then we would begin the road diet at park and carry it all the way through to Pickens. So you would be losing parking on the north side only a total of 21 meters spaces. And I think there's a couple of free spaces and maybe one handicap space. So a total of 24 on Calhoun would be lost. So we would accommodate St. Timothy's by leaving those and doing Cheros. Transitions, city staff has stated that they can effectively replace the parking that some of the transitions folks use today listed another block over. So I've personally spoken to Mr. Craig at transitions and he's good with that concept. But he said if we could do that, that that would alleviate their concerns. So Calhoun, we think we can accommodate both concerns and we would minimize the amount of parking that would be lost. Hampton, on the other hand, had more concerns with parking and that could be debatable whether or not those impacts would be significant. I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder. But I presented this presentation to county council. Their subcommittee last week, their transportation subcommittee and then presenting to y'all today and what council, county council asked and recommended is that we defer moving forward with Hampton. And then another thing that I wanted to point out to you the section between park and pickings, an original concept in an effort to save money was if we just went out there and ground up the existing pavement markings, which would look less attractive. I'll use that word. Well, numerous folks have said, including county council, it would be a much better idea to mill and resurface that whole entire section between park and pickings. So the total project cost is gonna be a little bit over 1.1, 1.2 million. It's funded by the penny. The city staff has been gracious enough to offer that they could help remove any of the parking meters that would be removed. The signal heads that may have to be realigned with any arrangements could be done by city staff. I really think I've covered everything. The schedule, our ask is, here's our ask. If city council were to approve this project at council tonight, I'm presenting to county council tonight, and I hope to be able to tell them city council has approved it, county council's ready to approve it, and then we can prepare the plans late this calendar year and we could advertise for construction in the spring and go to construction. We'll see how we do with Calhoun before we take another bite at the apple with another project. Now, go ahead. You can come back to us before you do anything. Absolutely, absolutely. All right, let me ask you this. Has there been any conversation with the Robert Meals? Not to my knowledge. All right, let me ask this other question. On Calhoun Street and other side of the Bull Street, where there he is, residential parking, and you there from Bull Street, all the way down to the street out there. Okay. What do we do with those persons who use that excessive, or residential parking? What happens to that car? In that section, beginning at Pickens, beginning at Pickens, going all the way down the hill to Hardin, there would be no impact. Pickens, beyond Pickens. Beyond Pickens, correct. So we would only be doing Sherrow's anyway. There was no impact. Pickens, perhaps? Pickens, Pickens. That one block. That one block. You got one block in there. No, sir. Actually, they have a little parking grab. Is the, the digest? It's the eye cleaning, the foot cleaning. Yeah, we have the law firms, and you have the dog's office. And you got another block. Are there any resins at that front? No, not at the front. It's further down beyond the. Beyond Pickens. There's no parking there. Yeah, Pickens is the very next block off of Bull Street. We're looking at that block. I don't believe so. So, so on Calhoun, between Bull and Pickens. Right now, there. Correct. Which they would be losing. Right. So that's, yeah, it's no parking. It's just a dedicated right away. So if you're coming to Pickens, you go over Bull, there's one lane where you go straight, and there's one lane where you have to turn right on Pickens. So you're saying we would lose that. Yes, ma'am. And there is no parking there today. On that piece. Yes, sir. The Bull Street project had in their parking design and remarking of Calhoun Street. Is this going to be done in conjunction with that? Or have y'all taken into consideration what their future plans are for remarking there? We have not addressed this specifically with Bull Street development. No, sir, we've not. Well, Bull Street and DOT both, I think, have plans to remark Calhoun Street. Up or down? There's all the way to Creeks Street. I think it's on the right or on the left side. We are for the name to make sure that we talk with the people. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you. So, and I guess it's for us when we were just talking about no name. So you're talking about losing parking spots on Calhoun Street and then losing parking spots on Elmwood. That's going to impact that business. But I know folks who will park even that far along to the other side of the block because there's just no parking here. It will impact the business. Other than that, there's like the office building there. I guess those are the folks we need to make sure they're aware of. Which is for sale right now. Is it the office building? The old school building. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But now I'm talking about where First Steps is. Oh, OK. There's a couple of offices in there. First Steps. South East Court. Oh, yeah. So that was part of the discussion that the staff and I had, which is why we wanted, why really didn't want y'all to hear this for yourselves. Because the addition of the bike lane, the discussion about the removal of parking, some businesses, I think, David, that's probably a fair depiction of the public outreach that the sentiment of two thirds to a third. I don't know that everybody potentially would be impacted and made it to those meetings. I mean, I don't know how we tell that for sure. So I do think it's important to really have a better picture than everybody who's going to be impacted. Well, thank you then, Nova Drive. We talked to BPAC about this as well. Even in addition, I'm not sure what the Penny's budget allows for. I mean, I told BPAC, I go knock on some doors with them, particularly on the Hampton Street. It's really making sure we're communicating as much as possible. Everyone gets their information from various sources. And then me, a feedback I got from merchants along Hampton Street seems to have been addressed and mitigated. I've seen a whole lot of them the last couple of weeks that have not had any additional feedback. I'm not sure if they should consent to be addressed. Initially, there was some great communication I assume they've been addressed, but these are folks who do have myself on there very regularly. That was a bit of a hard one on the street. But I think it's because it's going to be on hold. Yes, so whatever we can do, I think that build up as the manager mentioned in the communication, I'd be happy to get part of that. The Hampton Street project is the one that concerns me, losing 81 spots on Hampton Street. More than I would have included to lose. I do support the roads dying. I think reducing the four lanes to three with a turn lane is a smart move. You've got to figure out how to get parking and bike lanes between the two projects. You're talking well over 120 spaces disappearing. What's the dollar impact of 81 and 36 of the meters? Ravens takes away 16. It's all within a four block area. Our path forward would be taking city council's direction. On your wishes. If you were to tell us to move forward with this project, and I expect county council to tell us to move forward with this project. This is the schedule that we could be on. I would recommend, and we've already discussed after action by both bodies, sending out another letter to all of the affected business owners up and down Calhoun. Let them know of the decision and of the schedule. That would be another opportunity to tell the public what is going on. Yes. I'm sorry. I think yes, we should do that in the stand schedule. I think we need to have that communication and then have that communication there if that's itself in a meeting where we can have some face-to-face questions and questions to recognize. And that's the thing that I'm pushing. It would seem to me that the thing that we ought to do if we're going to follow this schedule, residents in the community association ought to have that kind of conversation, that kind of dialogue. They've heard a little bit about what we want to do, but I think it would be to our advantage that they hear exactly what you want to do and to allow them to respond. And particularly, that's in the Robin Neal association. And I can speak on behalf of the penny team. We'll be glad to do as many public meetings and as much outreach as we can. We want us to approve the CalHoon project. And after you get it finally designed, you're going to do the publicity with the CalHoon neighborhood. Correct. What I would ask is that City Council approve the project as presented today. We will immediately follow up with additional public outreach through letters telling them that we are moving forward. We would go forward with the design and we'll come back to you again before we go to construction to make sure that this body is fully aware of the schedule. Is there a part with councils? There is no issue other than the effective schedule. There's no issue. Well, you know, you learn through your mistake and I would simply prefer that community input be the first step and shortly after that, there's something we need to talk about in depth and we do that and then let this food then be the next step. It would certainly help me a lot and help this. And if I could just add and I do agree Robert Mills needs to be involved because Robert Mills, the neighborhood or the association covers the residential and commercial and Ellis is an excellent job at making sure that you know, go out and stuff. But really for Calhoun, really who's affected are the businesses. I mean, because really the residential part of that starts at pick-ins which is not going to be affected. So where I'm really concerned is you've got a lot of small businesses and not just that foreign Calhoun that I have a Calhoun address but I think we should need to do the block over. So you're on Marion, you know, that block Marion, two blocks of Marion that are adjacent to Calhoun and then whatever the next street up to Thumper at least. I think we need to make sure that those businesses are involved and invited to the meeting. But I would agree. I think just having, you know, you can adjust the schedule, you know, a month or so I would think that we could have a good neighborhood meeting to make sure that people are aware of what it is. And I would also suggest, Miss Wilson, I think the way we communicate is very important and you know, you hear people say when it's parking automatically, their mind is going to go, I don't think that's a good idea. I think we, it's incumbent upon us to make sure we're educating people on why this is important. The safety, you know, the other things that I don't know if we do that enough. And so maybe we can work in conjunction with opinion and we make sure that's communicated because we know what people are hearing and what we're hearing. But concerns we're hearing, we know how to address them. Yeah, so I want to be really clear, David, because my understanding is that you all are not doing public outreach anymore as you're administering the project. So you will do that and you want city staff to collaborate with you. That was my understanding that y'all don't do public engagement. That's not an entirely accurate definition. Okay, well let me, that's what I'm asking because I want to know accurately what is it. The Department of Revenue and Supreme Court said that the penny funds themselves could not be used for public relations. We are conducting project specific public education. And it's not necessarily a play on words, it is a different subject of a specific project meeting with the specific affected owners. We want project specific public education to have immediately. And we have had assistance and leadership from city staff. So thank you for that and we were supposed to continue that. If we're going to have some public education on talent, I think we need to overly take that opportunity to show them what's coming down. Especially that block right there is affected by both. Yeah. Well Cahood and Marion. So you're talking all those businesses that just talk about No Name, Deli, those law firms, there's like a CPA firm. All of those are affected by both of those projects. Right. We weren't happy to work with you on that sooner than later. So your schedule has impacted too much. Thank you very much. David, as soon as I guess there is a date set, we as the representatives area need to get it on our calendar so that we can be present. So can we work to coordinate with staff and make sure it works for our staff? So our next action item will be to schedule a public meeting and do the appropriate public education. Yes, sir. We'll work with you on the timing of the council members can attend. Fantastic. Thank you so much, David. Thank you, buddy. Our next item is the Clean Water 2020 Update. Mr. Clint Shealy, assistant city manager for Columbia Water. Good afternoon. Thank you for the opportunity to come and talk about our Clean Water 2020 program and what we've been doing. Two meetings ago, we all approved the next year's program contract and we committed to coming back and just telling you some of the some of the advancements that we've made in the past year and just kind of give you a status of the program. So that's really what we wanted to do today. Give you a little more detail and talk about some of the really good things that are going forward in our wastewater collection and treatment systems. I want to thank you first of all for your support in funding the capital projects and the program and the different operation and maintenance programs that we've needed to make the progress that we've made so far. I want to thank the program management team. Brian and your group really are doing an outstanding job for us and finally thank Joey and our city staff. They are really dedicated and working very hard to make positive change and I think what we've tried to do is structure this presentation to show you some of the changes that we're making while we're making those changes and how they're building toward results and so we're going to show you some of those positive results that we kind of previewed two weeks ago or two meetings ago and then give you a little glimpse I'm going to have Joey speak a good bit and we're going to ask Brian to come up and speak some. Councilman DeVall, you're probably wondering where Ms. Jennifer is and the iPad knows how we're doing mobile city works and Joey's going to speak to that technology Jennifer was going to be here but she's sick today but I will say that if anybody wants a demonstration we can come give you a one-on-one demonstration of how we're using mobile city works. It's pretty impressive. Joey? What we're going to talk about today we're going to focus a lot on the smart technology that we're using in our system today and really I'm trying to work towards and I know we say this a lot but we mean it when we say we're trying to work towards being best in class in what we do and leaders among our peers and as we stand here today we've got a national conference going on and we've got folks there competing in that national conference and also speaking at that national conference so we're not just doing it here we're showing people nationwide what we do and how we're making a change so I think that speaks to a lot to the successes we're making so just some of the ideas of the technologies we're going to be talking about today we're going of course mapping is one of the key things it's the foundation to what we do GIS and that was one of the first things that we embarked on improving in our system CityWorks we'll talk about our work order management our asset management system CityWorks is how we collect customer complaints how we collect issues in our system and how we keep track of that and what we do Brian's going to come up and talk about dashboards it's a new technology that we're using it's a high level how do we keep up with our key performance indicators and some of the other technologies the hydraulic modeling that we're doing to build our capacity assurance program to make sure that we are properly tracking the flows we have in our system so talking about CityWorks for those of you just as education CityWorks is our computerized maintenance management system it is our work order system this is how we keep track of the service requests that we get or the complaints that we get about a leak in the road to an SSO to anything related to our utility and that could potentially turn into a work order and then it keeps track of the work we do in our field we implemented CityWorks as a city in about 2010 and we utilize it not just in water and sewer but we utilize it in public works in other areas of our city as well and since 2010 the city has made great investments with our IT with our utilities public works all of us working together to make changes to improve the operation this is where I would have Jennifer come up and talk about the process but just wanted to talk about you know we're making an effort to go to go mobile with our CityWorks and that seems not that difficult but it's really difficult with the utility our size but the old way and the way the majority of the utilities use CityWorks today is you get a if a customer calls in with a leak and they report in a leak it creates a service request in customer care in this group a service request goes through the system to someone in water who has to get in their inbox who has to dispatch somebody to go see it they may have to print something out get a report back and just that process alone could take a day but if we're doing work that a work order is generated then that paper has to go to a district supervisor for water who has to do the work document on that piece of paper hand it back in that information that they hand it back in has to be input and all this could take at least three to four days to work in some cases some cases it goes quicker some cases it goes actually longer depending on the level of work but as you can imagine if you're a customer and you're trying to find out what's going on there's a lot of dead time there so we're trying to improve that with our mobile system so with our mobile system we've actually implemented this in wastewater today and they have tablets in the field so they get a service request in the field they're able to respond to it enter the data in the field in the service request then turns it into a work order so then it immediately generates a work order in the field and we're able to dispatch at that point to go do the work there's still a time for that to take place but we don't have that time of a piece of paper being printed to have it turned back in and have it be entered into the system so with the mobile way we're really moving to the 21st century way of doing what we do so we've implemented that on wastewater we are by early next year we will have the ability to implement that in water which is probably going to be a larger impact to our customers because the majority of the service requests that are generated are water so so I think it's a success on the wastewater side we've seen that we're soon going to be able to roll over to the water side we still have the process of it's not just immediately closing the field you still have somebody that QC's the data to make sure everything goes in improperly so there is there is that time as well but it's a much faster way of doing things so some of the smart technology that we're using smart manholes this is a remote way for us to be able to monitor the level in our system an example is during the storm we didn't have to dispatch people during the storm to check for SSOs we knew mobile leave guys sitting at home knew whether or not they had to go out and look because of our smart manhole system so we don't roll a vehicle like we always roll the vehicle during the storm we still occasionally do in certain areas but now we're able to remotely monitor that so that's a smarter way of doing things talked about the GIS we are heavily investing we have on the wastewater side we are now starting to on the water side we did our gap study within our utility one of the biggest comments we got from both divisions was we need a better way of mapping our system so we're investing heavily in our GIS today we utilize a system in our treatment plants called Hawk Wins which is a it populates data through our treatment process or all of our staff have the ability to see the data and it's able to make they're able to make data driven decisions so they're making smarter decisions at our treatment plants and our process and that actually extends out into the distribution system I mentioned hydraulic modeling with the improvements we're making to our GIS we're making improvements to our hydraulic modeling which ultimately builds up to our capacity assurance program which is a program we were required to have but we're going to have one that's going to be able to take we'll be able to analyze a tap from the point of the tap all the way to the treatment plant to verify that we have capacity which is not a lot of utilities have the ability to do that so another one is dashboards and I'm going to let Brian come up and talk about the dashboards we're creating like Joey said what he's getting at is making data driven decisions that kind of fits into the larger umbrella of business intelligence you hear about a lot big data data mining and what you see if you read business articles and stuff you see the companies are using these to make better company decisions and to ultimately make more money what we want to do is bring that concept of business intelligence to the utility industry it's not really been here historically so what we want to do is be able to use tools to be able to make those better decisions because if I can get you making better decisions more efficient decisions and the correct decisions in a timely manner you're going to become a better utility so how do we do that all these things Joey just talked about create data there's a whole bunch more we could bury you in data some screens I'm going to get to here a little bit the city work system has 220,000 work orders in it right now that's big data and that's just for maintenance on the collection system so how do we use this in a way that can actually help us make better decisions so what we're going to get to here using the dashboard as an example of using business intelligence here this is just one example of a dashboard we've got several pages but I want to focus on this one for a little bit so what you'll see here is some kind of you know it's phased out a little bit with the light here but you can see some quick KPIs can that be expanded a little bit? Not really not really I don't think so sorry about that I'll be happy to show it to you afterwards if you want but what you can see here is some dials and gauges we're going to focus on this one here for a minute and what allows us to come in really quickly and say hey we're supposed to inspect 160 miles of pipe this year how are we doing what if I want to drill down and learn more about that I don't want to sift through 220,000 work orders and so this tool is going to allow us to do that I'm just going to show a quick demo I did today on my desktop and I recorded it so you should be able to see and kind of ride along with me here for a little bit so you can expand it and see our goal is 160 we're at 113 right now that's about right that's through September we're pretty much on target so if I'm the utility director I'm not freaking out I just want to make sure we're still doing good I can then go in here and drill down and now I'm able to get to a whole lot more information than I could and a whole lot more than I can get from the system so I'm to clear I was filtered just on 2018 I'm not going to open it up for all the information we have historically which goes back to 2011 okay zoom back in here on the map and what you see again this is kind of user-friendly it's very intuitive I'm pretty sure my daughter would be able to figure this out so you can go in here and actually see information and see the overall levels of inspection that we're doing you can see this thing started climbing here in the last couple of years that's good we can see that very quickly we could get back out if we wanted to we can drill down more also you can come in here I'm going to click you can see the blue is CCTV inspection that kind of red color is SL rat and that inspection actually goes through and yep we'll see so if I go in here and click on the years that were historically CCTV I can see the price that we've paid historically for CCTV back when we were doing just that is a dollar forty one cents a foot it is it is that's running a camera through the pipe if I come in here and do the last three years we're doing the CCTV and the acoustic that really cool acoustic inspection I can see our cost are down to thirty four cents a foot now so when I'm budgeting for next year and setting targets I've got some really good information I can now try to base decisions on and this is literally live as fast as you can click it on my screen you can come in here for the last three years that are still highlighted and see the trend we can see we traditionally fall off that's probably because we're on task to hit the target so we can ease back off we can also go in here Gills Creek and Mill Creek are two basins we have a lot of problems in I can filter now just on the last three years in those two problematic basins and all the information is changing as fast as I click including the map you can see where we've done work so it allows you to be able to drill down click very quickly and be able to see any troubles I can also go in here if I'm just very concerned about a particular neighborhood or area I can go to the map circle the actual instances of where the stuff's happened because we capture it geospatially as well based on asset ID and now I've got specific information for a certain time period for a particular neighborhood okay there's nothing magic about this particular example that I've got but it shows you how we can go through any type of work order any type of information that we capture incredibly quickly so if you talk about smart cities digital making better decisions having this at your fingertips as a utility person is revolutionary there's nobody else in the country right now doing this to this level other than Columbia not by the first of the year but it is coming it will be coming and see that's the thing is with doing Joe's going to talk in a second about asset management doing the right stuff the things EPA tells you to do becoming a best in class you're capturing the data you're doing the stuff so you've got the cake this allows you to put the icing on it to actually learn from it to really make those better decisions there's a lot of utilities capturing a lot of data there's not very many utilities that can use it to make great decisions at the end of the day this is great if we have to utilize it and collecting it and having it in our fingertips there's no good if we're not using it it's best to do it and that's the frustration of most utility directors they have this information but it's too much they don't have to sift through it this allows you to do that so it's the worst in the country right now there's a lot of people looking to try to copy this now okay I'm going to show you one other one other example here this isn't exactly the dashboards but it is related to it and this is another example of taking where you've got information that usually sits in different parts of the city and put it in one location so this is a zoom in this is a pond this is over in the Saluda River basin and before if somebody got a phone call they're going out to do a service on a pipeline they're going out there with only whatever's written in that work order whatever knowledge of that line is in their head and maybe some paper maps that were in the truck that was the way life was a couple of years ago now with the information we're doing I'm going to show you how the guy going out there working in a truck has a lot more information so now with the tablets and the mobile technology they can very quickly filter and see what's been inspected I can see that this line has been inspected I can also click the history of what's been rehabbed and see if it's been rehabbed or not and I see that it's not I could then go click on the line and this can all happen in the truck while they're driving down the road because we've got mobile technology now I can pull up some information and I can see there's a real bad defect right here I can highlight it and pull up some additional information I can go here I see a bunch of information about the pipe but I can also literally pull up a picture of that defect you can see this isn't a great picture it just happens to be when I clicked on you can see some cracks in the pipe so as I'm driving out there I can see the life history of this pipe if we've inspected it before we would have had this information but would have sat inside somebody's computer on somebody's desk back in an office not in the hands of the guy in the field that needed it so we're now able to take the information of this entire organization and put it in the hands of everyone and that becomes powerful so those are the type of things we're doing so we say we're going digital we're not just doing some digital things we're going full digital and going really kind of cutting edge and doing some stuff other utilities aren't doing to make you better that you're going to see okay so Mr. Davis rehab repair yes sir traditionally whenever we say rehab it's generally a repair to the line like putting in a new liner sometimes we'll talk about asset renewal that could be a replacement or rehab usually whenever you're doing rehab on a pipe you have a quick decision cheaper to replace it cheaper to line it that discussion from my perspective lately I don't think it necessarily means we have that big problem with the system but things happen there's not spills there's more water that's it's been from my perspective I'd like to see I think that's an educational moment for people in the city especially in the neighborhood especially in the areas where you know we have a list for repairs and so forth and so on but they can see what we do what it takes to get there and one of my best experiences was to see the camera go through the pipeline from the truck and so forth so that's exactly what backs up this technology right here they don't know that but also absolutely well I remember sitting in this room being challenged by Mr. Wilson to have the utility become a leader among their peers right become the leader that other utilities look towards and we're doing that now in the collections and have the ability to leverage that in the future over to the drinking water side as well we do we're actually going through a large effort now we've named them all we're going through the system now there's about an eight year time period in the consent decree that we have to go out and actually survey them so we're actually going out and surveying all the assets as well so every now and then we'll find that eight inch line is really a 12 inch line or vice versa that line's not on this side of the street it's on that side of the street so we're going through and not just having a better GIS which is the foundation of this asset management approach we're actually locking in where those assets are so that our grandchildren won't have to go hunt for manholes they'll be able to walk right to them it's a very different way of doing business a much better way well with that I'm turning back over to our Joey okay so Brian talked about the way we used to do things and the way we we did have a lot of this information previously but having it at our fingertips makes us a better operating utility so that's one of the things that the dashboards and the GIS and all that brings to the table so but having a good asset management system is really what a best operated utility has so it helps us in planning we take all this data putting it into this asset management system and it helps us in our future planning of our system and that's going to help us in the long run to make sure that we have a more efficiently operated utility and help minimize costs in the long run as well so the benefits I mean best utilities have a good asset management system so we've talked about mostly talked about wastewater because that's where we've focused a lot of this attention on but the intent from the beginning was we knew we had to do it for wastewater we don't want to just do it for wastewater we want to roll this over into water so that's what we're doing now we started last year leveraging what we've done with the Clean Water 2020 program now we're doing it on the water side we're making improvements to our mapping as I talked about earlier we're doing that today we just hired two new GIS texts and that's their sole focus is to input water into our GIS from the data we collect in the field we talked about the city works mobile we've done it on the wastewater side by next year next calendar year fiscal year we will be doing it on the water side as well and the goal is to improve our operations but ultimately we're going to be improving our customer service we're reducing that dead time when we get a complaint we're able to actually when Angie's folks get a call and they want information on a customer called in previously the intent is for Angie's group to have that information to be able to relate to the customer effectively so talking about the CD talking about wanting to give a regulatory update we're happy to say that most of the programs that are required by the CD have been submitted and have been approved by EPA it doesn't stop there that means we have to implement all these programs and the programs that we've that have been submitted are really operation and maintenance and assessment how we assess our system those type programs what results from that is the meat of what we've got to do it's the work we've got to implement it's the rehabilitation we have to do to our system so of the programs we have four programs remaining the two last programs that we have to submit are the hydraulic model report but also the capacity assurance program and the capacity assurance program as I mentioned earlier it's built off of the hydraulic model every tap that we add to our system somebody has to certify that we have capacity in our system it has to be built off of a well calibrated hydraulic model because as our requirements go we're allowed to surcharge slightly in our system and if we don't have a good hydraulic model we're not going to be able to be able to simulate that so it's important that we have a quality hydraulic model because as I mentioned earlier we're building this capacity assurance program that most utilities don't have but it's something we have to have as part of our requirements the next program we have to submit in November is our infrastructure rehabilitation report and this is where we actually tell EPA based on the condition assessment that we did for our major lines what rehab what projects are we going to do for that condition assessment that's to do in November of next year 2019 it has to be completed by 2027 so for our major projects and we have to complete by 2027 the other infrastructure report we have to submit is called the Supplemental and that's for other than major so major pipeline is pipelines that are 15 inches so it doesn't sound like a lot but when you think about large pipeline these are big dollar projects and when we're making investments these pipelines are 15 and big dollars these are the trunk lines of our system these are the major arteries of our system so that program yes sir I'm talking wastewater I'm sorry yeah the regulatory update for our consent what we have to submit on the wastewater the report has to go in in November the projects have to be completed by 2026 yes sir so that's this is when we do all the condition assessment and I'll walk through I'll move to this this slide this is a basically a roadmap of our consent decree so each one of these acronyms which if you ever have this type of program the first thing you have to do is learn all the acronyms that you're given so the first one is the sewer mapping program so you can see we're starting here and then we're working our way to get to here so our sewer mapping program that we had to submit that in 2014 that was our first program due to EPA as Brian mentioned earlier we had eight years we have eight years to complete that so we're still completing that today and that builds on the hydraulic model builds on the hydraulic model report that builds on the capacity assurance program so there's each one of these are building blocks so the next program we had this one of the next programs there's other programs but these are the programs that develop projects the next one is their capacity assurance program that's how we told EPA this is how we're going to assess our system to assess the condition of our system that turns into the IRP which is the infrastructure rehabilitation program so we told EPA how we're assessing our system now the next step we have to take and as they do in November of next year is based on that assessment of the major pipes this is what we plan to do so that's due in November of next year and that what turns into a report which is called the IRR and then that is broken up into three groups of projects based on priority and criticality of the sewer line that we're working on so that there's a three-year term for the group one highest priority highest criticality all the way to a seven year for the group three that's where we say 2027 but we also have the supplemental which is basically everything else that we didn't include in the initial report so once we get through this roadmap it'll be about 2028 time frame 2028 2029 we can start our process to negotiate out so people talk about what's our time when can we get out of our consent decree this is the roadmap that lays that out we could reach it before we could reach it before yes sir if these projects do not require that time to complete we could we could reach it before we're saying now 2027 2028 because we we've seen some of these results and I don't want to give you I want to make sure that we complete it in the time we tell you we have a plan we are in planning stage right now so but I guess you know we could ask that question a lot how long what's the date you know there is no date in our consent decree it's this we have to everything builds on itself so once we complete all these programs and we successfully reduced our SSOs which is ultimately what we're ultimately what we have to do as part of the program then we begin to negotiate so we wanted to just give a snapshot of this is a snapshot of just all the ongoing projects we have today so the gray is the limits of our system in the highlighted areas or areas that we have a project today that project could be a project that we were planning we're designing or we're in construction but you can see that we're working pretty heavily on the wastewater side of our system so just some key projects we've got up here the this is crane creek we've already talked to you about crane creek these are some SSES projects this is where we do the condition assessment of the system that battle turn into rehabilitation projects in that area this is the planning of in order to meet our current customers but also our future customers our current service area and our future customers we have to we're analyzing the capacity of this this major artery in our crane creek this will become a capacity assurance program project or capacity assurance project this is downtown this is smith branch this is rocky branch we're doing a lot of SSES work in these areas these are the older areas of our system these are the areas that also have the potential for development so if we don't do we do these SSES projects that finds condition that turns into rehabilitation projects that removes INI, builds capacity in our system but then we also have a major sewer line that we've got here it's called the rocky branch sewer line project that we've approved engineering on we're soon as we collect the easements we're going to be ready to be in construction this is going to be a critical project because if we have if we don't do this project we could potentially have an issue where we don't have the ability to add large customers in the downtown area so this is when I say downtown this is USC 5 points so this this is a critical project that we have to complete then of course we got lake catherine over here lake catherine we have bid lake catherine we only have one bidder and we are rebending lake catherine we have one outstanding easement to collect on that project right now so that project is going back out very soon so we have well over 60 projects those are just some big projects we talked about but just some key projects but just on that screen we have well over 60 projects today going on what was the project on lake catherine this is the we have the dredging project that we went into agreement with lake catherine they helped us get some of the easements but we do have to do a draw down when we do the construction of the we're basically replacing the pipeline that goes around lake catherine they grabbed the pipeline that goes around no sir it has not we've completed design we have one outstanding easement we did bid the project anticipating we would get the easement or the necessary easements we only had one bidder because we only had one bidder we wanted to go back out with it and we wanted to re-evaluate our engineering and we've done that so we plan to go back out very soon anticipating we're trying to recruit more folks to come in and bid this way that bid came over budget is what he's trying to say yes sir thank you the storage project we yes sir we're in construction yeah okay so and we've had a lot of compliments on that project several people from the five point association yes sir SSO update Clint mentioned the results so all of this investment that we're making what are the results we've made a significant reduction early on in the program we hit the numbers so we brought the numbers down but now we're starting to bring the volume down which is critical to we have a number of SSOs every year but if we can hit these ones that are high volume that's critical in what we're doing so that's what we want to show here so here's some bar charts of the past five years or including this year five year look back so the large jump here this was the 2015 flood this was Matthew because the following year remember we had another hurricane so we had some large volume SSOs here we have since implemented the Crane Creek project and other projects to reduce this volume so we had a 57% reduction here just in those two big numbers there and we in turn had a 71% reduction here and that's goes into calendar year 2017-16-17 but where we are today we're at an 86% reduction today from last year so these are some very large reductions in volumes as a result of the investments we're making so when Clint mentioned results earlier this is the result of the investment we're making we're trying to do the math for this year 93,000 one last flooding two last floodings in about 50 days less rain helps it does, that absolutely does help but the projects that we've implemented to address that as well yeah I mean that's a good point so 14 was a dry year so you can look at that this is the volume so here's the numbers so if you look at the numbers you can see the early years we had a great reduction in numbers that's a result of the operating programs that we implemented like our grease program we're heavily looking at investigating proper grease traps and other public education on don't flush grease down your drain so that hit a lot of the that hit a lot of the early early year slope down but you can see we've somewhat leveled off on the number of SSOs even though the volume has drastically gone down we have somewhat leveled off and a lot of that's due to we have a lot better accountability today on what we have going on in our system so we're catching a lot more so this year I think it's 180 but about 180 so that includes SSOs in our system but it also includes SS on the service lines so of those 180 147 of them were less than 500 gallons 113 of them were less than 100 gallons we record one gallon we're the only utility around that records every gallon so if we have a one gallon overflow it goes into that counting most utilities record 500 gallons or less that's what they're required to record or if it reaches a body of water of that 180 147 of them we would not unless we reached a body of water we would not have to record so that's huge when you talk about numbers when you compare yourself to other utilities so it's always important to note that we are this will continue to go down with all the investments we make even though we've somewhat flatlined today we've hit the big boys we're still hanging fruit so now as we continue these our SSES our condition assessment we're making those investments in areas that we have the root not routine but every once in a while SSOs do the roots, grease collapse line those are the biggies that we see a lot of because we have older infrastructure you're going to have those type issues in your infrastructure so we're attacking that today to turn into rehabilitation projects that hit those issues that ultimately is what's going to bring our number down for SSES with that plan I'm going to let you or does it you help me out so I think the automated metering infrastructure will allow us to and will empower customers to know if they've got a water leak quickly rather than us going out and manually reading that meter they'll have access to that data it will also allow us to automatically push a leak alert to the customer the day or two after their water use pattern is indicative of a leak so that's really really important for us in terms of and that's where we get a lot of customer feedback and a lot of frustration from our customers I didn't know about this leak I got this high water drill a couple hundred dollars so I think that will hopefully help stem some of that the other thing that we're doing with mobile city works for wastewater maintenance some of the frustration that that y'all have that we have that our customers have is I called in a leak two months ago and it wasn't addressed or three months ago and it wasn't addressed and we get that we see that happening occasionally and so that's a work or that was generating a piece of paper that was handed to somebody and there's opportunity when you're passing around whether to sit on somebody's desk because it's in a stack or for that piece of paper to get lost when we're doing it electronically you can get that real time feedback that the person in the field can be empowered when they're doing that work to close that work order that automatically puts it in the system and then that reports right back to our customer care staff so that when they're on the phone three days from now what's the status they can look and see real time what the status of that repair is so I think it's going to help our customer experience I really really hope it does we're investing a lot that those two advances are going to make life better every day for our customers when do we get there again? so for AMI we're in negotiation with the vendor we've selected the vendor we're in negotiation right now for the contract that's a three year roll out of installation of meters I saw the request for 15 new iPads for water distribution come through yesterday so that is happening we're working and all these things that Joey's talking about I said thanks to our team and program management but they impact our own internal internal city departments IT is supporting us finance is supporting us HR because we're hiring more people legal because they're reviewing more contracts you know this lot of work that's happening is touches a lot of folks so they're supporting us as well Joey mentioned the infrastructure rehabilitation report the IRR and that is an EPA deliverable that has to happen by November 2019 there's a contract on Consent Agenda tonight that feeds that populates that infrastructure rehabilitation report so you'll start seeing those things that are happening and they're reviewing all the assessment and packaging up projects but that report is going to populate a whole lot of infrastructure spend that we're going to need to do to our our major infrastructure our larger infrastructure one final question yes sir we're on we've always been on on pace meeting the requirement and reporting does EPA bodies come to Columbia and look at them so no sir in general they do not come to Columbia we report through attorneys and through our program management staff and true true if we have heavy heavy rainfall events we could have a problem in the Rocky Branch Village Basin or Lake Catherine we can have if we don't have those projects and we can't get those projects in quick enough so they've been designed we're trying to get easements we're trying to get those projects in the ground those are our next really high priorities and that's 35 to 40 million dollars worth of work that you're going to see come to you as construction contracts the not too distant future so we're we're on the gas pretty hard about that finally I wanted to touch on on spend just what it looks like right now versus what the road ahead is so far council has approved about 220 million dollars worth of projects that are related to the consent decree Brian's original estimate was 750 million based on some conversations that we've been having we think that the capacity number is maybe going to be a little more and the rehab number is going to be a little bit less as we do this work to populate the infrastructure rehabilitation report and then the follow on report that we're going to get a better feel for what this total spend is going to look like and so we come asking for 80 million dollars a year in CIP for wastewater improvements we are projecting that path for the next five or so years and maybe be in to drop off a little bit beyond that well hopefully a little less than a year we're going to have a better feel for what this looks like and we'll be able to give you a more realistic projection of what that spend is going to have to be to meet the requirements of the consent decree because what's in that infrastructure rehabilitation report become enforceable deadlines of the consent decree so much more to come but again thank you all for supporting us and we really appreciate it and thanks to staff any questions thank you very good I'm pleased from where we've been to where we are now just one question that's constant and you mentioned about how much a year 90 million 80 million I would be interested in how much of that stays local yes sir local dollars it's a whole lot of dollars and two things in my mind the way that would help us look good one that we do there are local contracts plus as a result of this we are helping to build capacity of smaller businesses so that they can participate as well I don't know where we are with that but that's that's a great interest I think you all are doing a good job but I think we would really put a crown on that if we could show how much of those dollars are still in this community Melissa left out but I know Clint Melissa and those weren't really closely together she was kind of a they are always improving upon the system but there are different programs that OBO administers they're now cracking those along with Clint and his team before us we do a bid that's a whole formula that I have to finally ultimately sign off on about the challenges of participation so I think we're monitoring it very closely we can also prepare for the it's a great question we'll look into pulling together some of that information and also I remember it within the last year so may have been the last update that we did we had the economists come in and talk about the impact on the local economy and that was pretty impactful we'll get some numbers together for you thank y'all yes sir I would love for it to be a question for Mr. Taylor but I will try to that is for our stormwater improvements and Jeff is probably a little more knowledgeable about that than I am final presentation of the industry improvements to Honorable Daniel J Rickerman in the staff somebody give a background let's start thank you for letting us come today to give you a little background of how things are going with Park Street improvements just to give you a little background we have been working with stakeholders, business owners, Vista Gill thank you Meredith for coming today to work on the corridor along Park Street from to Jervay that is an area where a lot of head in parking not a lot of pedestrian movements are very safe so we've been talking to the groups about how to bring in safety for the pedestrians as well as a issue with roll carts so over the past several years we've met with stakeholders we've last decade okay I wasn't going to say that but it's been a while so thanks to y'all we brought you forward the CHAL design contract they are actually here as well today to answer any questions about our rendering we've got some preliminary renderings on the corridor so they have been working diligently at looking at the corridor getting the survey information confirming the information and they have come up with the rendering that I've got here on the computer okay that's Jervay well so it was the sidewalk it's the parking it's the visibility the smell the name it and it's a major thoroughfare for our visitors that come and utilize the convention center hotel and it's a gateway we've been talking about these improvements for longer than I count it's been at least a decade if not one of the things that they're showing is an enclosure what I've been pushing staff we're going to find a way to do it is to make that where it goes underground and then comes up with a lift not necessarily this this hydraulic system but do it simple like the old they do it in New York in places and others where it's basically a platform that goes down and all the roll cars can be on it because we're going to spend to fix this whole area up and then have the trash still in the middle of it people eating hair walking there and everything so finding the right and I know Robert then had looked at this and there's only one company here that does it here yet and if I can so our original design was to take the elevated views and actually put roll carts in this would have a rinse out area and some electrical areas we've got a cost on that I'm going to skip through this fairly quickly and get to where you want to talk about the second one was an underground system there's two underground systems we actually saw this system here with the metal container in Orlando last year I would guess looking at the truck compared to what we have it's about 250,000 for the truck plus underground I don't know about that we don't pay federal exercise tax so the other one is the lower right and it's called a semi-suburged system there's a company in Greenville that's now doing this they've been telling us they're coming to Columbia for about nine or ten months they wanted to drive their truck from Greenville down here to service one of these and that's not a really good business model they have no backup trucks I did hear the other day that they have a truck in now that they're supposedly sending to the Columbia area I still don't know if their business model is there it is a great concept they take a six yard bag they put it in basically an inverted storm water pipe the bag sets in it's secured you put your waist in you pick it up it's about an extra $40,000 for a crane arm on a rear loader garbage truck you set it over the truck you pull the rope garbage goes into the back of the truck and you cycle through the load the issue here is even though I think this is a proven method and I think this is a great method for Columbia we just need to make sure that these trucks are readily available and they don't break down and somebody's still going to be in business three years from now so Robert when you said is there somebody else that they're currently going to be doing that gentlemen told me last week that the truck was in that they had to send it to the paint shop and they needed 14 accounts before they would ever bring it to Columbia but remember we've been going down this road for about nine or ten months and they've been going to do this business so until they land in town and I'm a person that you got to have a backup truck if one of our garbage trucks breaks down we've got to have another truck to actually service something their idea of servicing this if it breaks down and I know a lot of you may not know this is to get a bagster truck for waste management which is a non-compactor vehicle and actually put it on the truck drop it into a roll off and take it to the landfill uncompacted which there again is just it's not a good business model the other drawback to this is the cost of service the cost of services is about twice as much as a regular service for a loader so Councilman Rickerman wants to go somewhat simple he says or underground and I get it so we would have to develop a system that would be able to submerge the one on the right is something we pulled out of the UK very sophisticated it actually goes underground there's some passcode swipes that you can swipe from the electronic devices to allow use for where they put the garbage in the top we would come by as a service operator bring it up to the level pull the containers out and service it the other ones in a system that I found last night that's on a scissor lift which maybe we could do electrically but we've just started talking about this we have Chow now looking at this to see if they can provide us some kind of costing mechanism to what it would cost and we still have to worry about what is truly underground at Park Street to know that we can actually put this underground I think what the whole point is is nobody's looked at what's under there so let's look at what's under there before we spend you know $120,000 to put something on top it's probably not going to provide us the best solution the whole purpose of cleaning up this street is so that you can see from one end to the other and use it as a gateway and not so much as a trash bin because and Robert knows because he's been involved I mean they met with every owner they've tried to get everybody in the two block area to work together on you know sharing dumpsters and everything else and they got nowhere it's time to move this thing forward get it completed fix this gateway I think that's a trash can issue if we can figure out the right way to do it you know which would be a hydraulic that would come off and so in the evening they could bring it all up everybody fill it up and then put it back down which would be great for Starbucks and these other people who have it on the corner of the Bay Street and other places that's just interesting that block I'm curious I'm not as worried as much about geotechnical as I would be infrastructures and fiber or utilities water or sewer would you agree it's not like five points where when you went underground you kept going and you kept going and you kept going and you kept going but we would like the option to explore this a little bit more so we can find and like I said Charles just seen this today we've got them looking at it and they're looking into it I believe you pulled up the same picture we did out of the UK right now so I'm going to turn a little bit last pit over to Dana I believe it's the schedule so going back to Dana's point though of what does it entail of Spanish underground yeah so Chow and Associates has been working on the survey piece and we haven't done any so to speak SUE to really pinpoint but if we were to identify a location we would want to do a little bit more detailed test holes just trying to determine the footprint of where we would put the underground garbage we would be very conscientious about making sure that there's nothing that we would conflict with and that would kind of help us but right now we've got a pretty good survey of where our water sewer, gas, fiber all those items are located so we can kind of get a feel for where the best place would be to locate it and then maybe get a little bit more detailed on that subsurface underground exploration which is a technique that transportation engineers use just while they're doing road widening and that kind of thing so Charles has been diligently working thank you so much for attending so if there's any specific questions we can certainly bring them to the forefront but right now they are working towards a 90% middle for January 24th and this is all based on their NTP that's why it's so specific 100% by February 24th and permitting completed by April our major obstacle right now we've got the funding for the design however we don't have all the funding for construction we did, we were successful Miss Wilson asked for the pennies $177,000 and we have just finished the IGA with them they should be sending us that check to help us with the construction but like I said the construction cost is estimated at $800,000 and $36,000 there's funding for this project great the question really is what are we going to fund and at the end of the day I think what we have to do is identify this hydraulic piece first and foremost because you can really finish up the design I'm more concerned in the time frame because you're going to have massive construction going on everywhere for infrastructure that's when all the road crews and everybody does their work is May through November that is not a good time to be bidding March and close to it we'll have to do it after definitely we're going to put some lipstick on it so yes we'll move forward with identifying opportunities for the hydraulic underground we'll start looking at that with Chow definitely I know that Meredith and the VISTA as well as all the business owners are interested in funding other funding opportunities we've been meeting with them we have a meeting this Thursday where Chow is going to come in and get their feedback and input for the design so anything that needs to be done we've been talking back and forth we are just looking at the west side because the east side didn't have as much support so we wanted to move forward and have at least one corridor that was going to be safe what's the most critical corridor out of that block probably the west side challenges it faces I think it would be good and maybe Chow and all the parties can get together and look at the schedule what's can we get that bid out earlier I think you're going to miss an opportunity on construction with all the road work that's going to be happening next year it's going to be a challenge for us agreed I was going to say that would be great if you could tell me where the funding is coming from too he's saying us let's figure out where to take it bro I've got a perfect source for work that's what I'm talking about right now so go back to the the picture of the the version that one build that is 121 so now we're going to explore the underground see what that is so the schedule that you have absent us finding out something about the hydraulic system and going underground the schedule would be implementing that by September 20 that's what Cal has given us what goes in there are the regular road cars that they have now that's what would go in the above ground the below ground may be something completely different or it would be the roll carts on a lift which would be the easiest quickest way to do it the one thing we've got to figure is do what we had capacity up top we just got to make sure we've got enough area to put 12 or 15 roll carts underground at the same time it may be that we go to one yard containers or roll carts .52 but if you do the roll carts on a lift yes you don't need that right see all that training I did on that if you go to that system though we don't have a truck that can service that not the system but the high dwell technically you actually could retrofit one of ours if you wanted to but that would be crazy to be much easier just to have a regular rear end loader pull up there and take the roll cart out that's the simplest, cleanest way to do it and it's been done before it's not something new that you need I just want to be clear though it's not a cost savings or an efficiency thing this isn't about that I actually was thinking about increased cost there was a need to buy a truck to service something different than what we already do we're trying to, I'd like to do it with what we already have I think our goal would be to service it with a rear loader they do make larger containers for rear loaders they dump similar to the same way that we've got now so I would like to see a larger container on wheels versus 12 or 15 like an auto container where you got a two yarder in there that can go with the lift in the back hospitals use a lot of those is there space ooh, ribbon cutting engine we're going to have a motion for executive session Mr. Mayor and there's a couple additional amendments for well, additions for executive session as well I'm sorry one last thing we've talked to local businesses they're well informed on timeline and everything else oh no they've never seen any of this I think there's going to be a meeting Thursday Dana, the meeting on Thursday the mayor was asking how much detail were you all be giving the merchants as far as like the timeline so they've asked to be very interactive with the design they're laying out the drawing that is before you and I'm sure most of it represents the discussions we've had today we're going to make sure that they're good with that before they continue to the next day so they have the rendering in my sense I took it out of Howard's expense account in my sense is other than the first month of football that probably lines up with what they want to see in the schedule that's about right some is better time right some is better time right some is better time right yeah right in school and it's close with the discussions I've had yeah if we could move it up two months it would be much better Eddie yeah I'm ready I make a motion to go into executive session for a seat of legal advice pertaining to matters covered by attorney client to 30-4S 782 municipal fees for seat of legal advice relating to pending criminal potential claims pursuant to A-2 Caleb vs. City of Columbia discussion of negotiations to propose contractual interest pursuant to 782 so the city discussions of matters relating to proposed location or expansion of services, the courage of location or expansion of industries other businesses pursuant to 782 development project discussion of the development of security personnel devices pursuant to 783 and discussion of negotiations of proposed contractual arrangements of 782, ad hoc committee agreement for seat of legal advice for matters covered by attorney client pursuant to 78 and I'll recognize pursuant to 782 also resolution 2018-098 abandoned building second discussion previous question hi yes hi hi thank you