 Even Bomb B, after that happened, did he reach out to you and y'all did some more music together? And when y'all did, what music was it and how was it the first time y'all came together to do that music after Pimp was gone? How tough was that? This nigga did all he could do to keep me in school, and while he was there, I was alright. It was tough. I think we were both really waiting to do it. I can't remember who called who first. I want to say I reached out to him first and told him I wanted to start on an album. I think that's how I can't actually remember, but we started working on Trill OG. And they would just pop out of him, man. And now all of them just sound brilliant. Everybody say that they would have been millionaires. Bobo included. If he had things set up for him, if he had just lived another 30 days, things was going to be so much diss of that. Were there anything planned with you and him or did y'all talk when he came during that time? When he was locked up, we were supposed to start the 808 boys. It was a production team with he and I. And I mean, that never really came into, well, it did, but I ended up not being a part of it. Why? Just like after he passed, it was just a lot of stuff. So the 808 boys didn't become a thing until after he had passed? Right. But it was two other producers that did it instead because first it started as me and Pimp. And then he was bringing some other guys into the fold. And then it just as time went on, we never really just did get it together. But was it because you basically kind of stepped back as Bunby said when he was on? He was on Beehive when he said that you kind of, you know, like it wasn't fun no more. Like what did you just kind of was it because you didn't pursue it and you didn't really have the drive to keep going with it like that after Pimp passed? Yeah. Well, when it came to stuff that he he had created or ideas that he conceptualized, I just didn't feel like it was it was my right to try to claim it. You know what I'm saying? Like I didn't want to be just like another one of those people that's grabbing at the opportunity now that he's gone. Because it was some of that going on. You know what I'm saying? So I just didn't I get what you what you're saying. But I also look at it from a perspective of keeping his legacy alive. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? It's a real thin line where you got to think about it. Because a lot of times people look at you and say, man, they're using his name or they doing this for cloud or they doing this to shine. But how much of that will look even if you were doing it to keep his legacy alive? People still going to talk. Yeah. They're not going to stop talking no matter what. Yeah. But if you don't do nothing, do you think PMC will be proud that you don't do nothing? Well, I didn't sit back and do nothing. No, but I'm saying what you got to think about what I'm saying, you know, I'm not trying. Would he be would he want you to carry on and carry because he didn't teach you or show you these things and y'all didn't work together those times. And y'all didn't put on those long hours in like I told Bobo. For nothing. Yeah. He would want to see y'all out here doing what he loved doing. Yeah. Am I right? Yeah, absolutely. So I know you kept, you definitely wasn't going to just not do the music. Right. But a lot of times when you see people out here cloud chasing, it can be confusing, right? But we also know that we got to keep that PMC legacy going. So it's like we can't worry about what everybody, I don't care what them dudes doing. Because they didn't really have a relationship with him a lot of times anyway. Like you did. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. I mean, but like he had different relationships with people that I didn't really know about, you know what I'm saying? Whenever he would highlight me, he just highlighted me, you know what I'm saying? But I didn't, he knew a lot of people, you know, and he was doing a lot of things with a lot of people. So I didn't know like the ins and outs of all of, you know, all I knew was what he told me, you know what I'm saying? What he was going to do and what he was wanting to do. And I'm pretty much like, hey man, I'm here, you know what I'm saying? Whenever you're ready to do it, I'm here. And like after he passed, man, it just, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I mean, just wasn't the same without him, bro. Mr. Lee said that. Mr. Lee said. It wasn't the same. It didn't, I didn't really have like a strong desire to, I guess, like any ideas that he had made just to, I don't know, man. It's just, just wasn't the same. It wasn't the same. It's like, how can you start a production company with the guy who's the main guy? But the guy is not like there anymore. It's not like I didn't feel like I couldn't do it by myself. Just wasn't, you know, that had those ideas had him written all over it. And there was no way that I, I felt like I could go in and make him shine and thrive the way he was going to make him shine and thrive. Just, just because of the type of person he was, you know what I'm saying? And his ideas were great, but they came out of his head. You know what I'm saying? And they fit him and they fit everything that he was doing. You know what I'm saying? And it went right along with him, but with him gone. It's kind of like, you ever see on, on when they do those horror movies or like special effects on TV, you got somebody in a suit standing up and then the body leaves a suit. Yeah, suit just, it's not the same. It just wasn't the same. Yeah. I look at it like, like I said, when I, when I look at a lot of different things that happened, even, even bum be like after that happened, did he reach out to you? And y'all, y'all did some more music together? Yeah. And when y'all did what music was it and how was it the first time y'all came together to do that music after Pimp was gone? How tough was that? This nigga did all he could do to keep me in school. And while he was there, I was all right. It was tough. I think, I think we were both like really, really waiting to do it. I can't remember who called who first. I want to say I reached out to him first and told him I wanted, wanted to start on an album. I think that's how I can't actually remember. But we started working on Trill OG. I started sending them tracks for that. And I think he's, I don't, we never really talked about it, but I think he was really just didn't have a desire at that particular moment in time. So I think when he started thinking about the whole Trill OG thing, he was like, okay, he's ready to get back in it. You know what I'm saying? So it kind of gave y'all a place of bridging the fact of, so when y'all did that was at the first project after Pimp had passed. That, that, that, that Bumbi had done or had he done other projects? I think did he do one after not that may have been the first one that he did after after Pimp. I know it's been a while. Yeah. But I mean, he's had, he's had successful albums even before that. Of course. But I think that might have been the first one that he did after, after Pimp passed. And when, when, when you guys done y'alls, the Trill OG project together, it had to be different. It was totally different than working with him ever that you had ever worked with him before with Tim being gone. Yeah. Because see, I hadn't, I didn't get the opportunity to work with him on his other albums before that. Yeah. So we hadn't worked together at that point. But the way that Trill OG came together, man, it was just like, it felt like making an album. Yeah. I'd always wanted that feeling as a producer. Yeah. How many, you did the whole thing? Huh? How many songs did you do on? Nine. All of them. Well, no, no. Way more. Way more. I ended up doing like the majority of them. But I think sonically, man, to me, that's, that's one of my favorite albums from him. Not saying that because I worked because there's a lot of other producers on it. Just the way that it came together. And if it kind of put me in the mind state of how, not that I was there, but how Snoop and Dre worked on the chronic. Yeah. It felt like making an album. It felt good. Yeah. It was like that feeling I had always wanted as a producer. How long did it take y'all to do the project? And just how did y'all send the tracks? Was it a thing where y'all just sending them all? Was it, was it, we had a point of emailing them or sending them? Yeah. E-mailing was capable. You could send stuff, email back then. But like what I did, I went to Houston and stayed there for a little while. Locked in with them. They had locked in and it actually got me a place out there where I could stay. And then after I was there a little while, I went and stayed with some, with some relatives because I got a lot of people out in Houston. So during that whole time we was working on the album. I think it took maybe, I want to say about seven, eight months or something like that. Wow. It took a while. It took a while because they went out, you know, they got, you know, a lot of great features. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? A lot of great tracks from a lot of other producers like Justice League. They had some heat on that. Who else? Oh, Big E. Big E had some stuff on there. Yeah, he was over here. Shout out to Big E. Yeah, Big E. What's happening? Yeah. Okay. So what do you remember on that trilogy that he said to you that something that sticks out in that moment of time? As far as like in a conversation? Yeah. In a conversation or something that sticks out. I can't really think of one thing. It was like after we finished the album, we had like a whole album release thing at the studio. Really? Yeah. Got to see a lot of people. A lot of people that I grew up listening to. So it was great. And we had the opportunity to take it to Atlanta, take it to the studio and play it for a lot of rappers out there. So it was a great time.