 real live hello people to the birth people of the earth can you hear me and your magical sound you know there's not enough Billy Thorpe in people's lives these days that's what I think I don't remember Billy short children of the son no familiarize yourself so all right what are the odds give me give me your over under on me needing a new prescription when I go to the eye doctor at four o'clock you need a new prescription what's your over under well I don't do what's an over under you need to I don't ask Justin to explain that to the everlasting frustration whether a thing will happen or not is not an over under well no I was okay under would be how much am I going to spend on on on a new prescription I guess what you're doing you're absolutely right you're absolutely right my my my over under is I think I was 20 30 last time oh got you so where we're what's the over under on the change I guess there's not much under because it's probably not gonna get better so that's a problem so you would set it as getting worse yeah and then you would determine but I don't know enough about eyes yeah I'm not good on the prescription lensing thing are you going far-sighted I yeah I'm these glasses are half nothing up up top there's they're just glass there's no prescription and the bottom half is for reading you're going bifocal territory they're progressive yeah well that's just a that's just a polite way of saying I don't have a baby left glasses yeah it's just it's just a polite way of saying I don't have the librarian glasses when they look up remember it became easier when reading and driving and stuff like if before I had I had just reading glasses right I'd only put them on when I was reading but then if I was driving and I needed to read the map right on the phone I couldn't read it so I got these oh man what what happened to my my pregame routine here what's weird is that over time because I have I have severe myopia that as you get older you tend to get far-sighted so it's kind of evening out it's slightly whittling away so they had to give me slightly less strong glasses but you know sometimes when I read it's just it's not it's just easier for me that it's not like I can't focus near yeah it's just that sometimes it's just easier to take off my distance site was 2015 oh wow my reading site was 2030 or however they just made your major changes coming to Hearthstone yeah I saw that Sylvanas in the wild Sylvanas Ragnaros and let's see other one there I don't play anymore as your Drake all going all going to wild wow Sylvanas that's that's the one that caught my eye because I like I said I don't play anymore but I loved using Sylvanas when I did play it's a really really really big card I would kind of assume that that you know this is that they want to just have a more wiggle room to do things like that and Sylvanas is just kind of the best version of my card Azure Drake though I think Azure Drake might be in the Azure Drake's on there when I it's like the end of my era they're like oh those cards you know how to use Tom yeah you those won't be no but now there's new exciting cards yes of course one will be meeting for the first time well I'll say yes but look at Sylvanas and Ragnaros and Ragnaros and Ragnaros they auto conceal it just it was the it was when they went to wild when they first introduced wild is when I kind of fell off playing because I would go in and I'm like I gotta redo all my decks and it just it was just too much for me to surmount I mean you could always just play wild I could have I totally could have I just was I think they had a messaging problem there where where they were like no there's wild but then they didn't really do anything with wild and they didn't make a big deal about wild and yeah and honestly I wanted to play ranked I wanted to get good so it was this is just this is not me saying anything wrong I'm just explaining my reaction my personal emotional reaction was oh I really want to do that but it's so complicated to do that I don't have time I'll do it later and I just kept putting it off and never getting that's the problem is that they have a wild ladder and they have a wild rankings and you can get great did they have the wild ladder at the beginning very beginning oh well yeah so maybe there's a little message I think they definitely had a messaging problem yeah well or even even if I knew that I don't know if it would have changed me or not because I would have still looked at the other ranked is like but that's the real right and that's and that was up yeah because that was that that's at the core of their problem is that standard is like well standard I mean standards were you know that's where I'm gonna play the real when you say the meta you are talking about the standard meta and not the wild totally well I'm gonna try to play Zelda this is where I'm at in video gaming the breath the breath of breath of the wild ranked the breath of certs the breath of the fresh breath of Zelda you know that would be a good tie-in with like a tic-tac campaign tick like wild mint tic-tacs yeah you think you think I'm kidding but I'm telling you there's something there I know you're I don't think you're kidding I'm taking 100% seriously Roger Altoid it could be Altoid 10s with limited edition like Zelda oh yeah the Altoid 10s could have a Raspberry Pi in them that lets you play the original Legend of Zelda on emulation ooh see now you think now you're cooking with gas mmm betcha still okay charcoal now you're cooking with solid fuels it's too dangerous to go alone take this take this all right we're about ready you guys you guys good yeah we got a hell of a little lineup here for us let's do it here we go daily tech news show is powered by you the audience to find out more head to dailytechnewshow.com slash support this is the daily tech news for Thursday February 16th 2017 I'm Tom Merritt Justin Robert Young alongside for a big day a big day of news Justin huge huge day of news and all the heavy hitters came out Facebook Snapchat Apple Google Tom I mean I feel like we should just Cameroon Cameroon is in the building don't undersell Cameroon United Nations is making an appearance yeah we got yeah just get right in yeah let's go with it Apple will hold its 2017 Worldwide Developers Conference on June 5th through the 9th but they're moving it to San Jose moving it back to San Jose actually at the McHenry Convention Center WWDC has been in San Francisco the past couple of years if you didn't know that several years really registration for tickets will begin March 27th and Apple says it will live stream all the sessions meanwhile Time Warner shareholders voted Wednesday to approve a merger agreement with AT&T the deal must still be approved by US regulators checking a box checking a box off the list there on the way to that merger happening or not and the Seoul Central District Court we just learned this right before we started the show approved a warrant for the arrest of Samsung head J.Y. Lee on bribery charges for an alleged role in a corruption scandal involving suspended president Park Young he this is something they had tried once before and been denied so they went and got more evidence came back and were successful the court rejected a similar request for Samsung president Park Song-jin who's also the head of the Korean equestrian Association and the whole thing has to do with horses horse competitions Tom dressage takes down the Samsung president if you are not up on this story do yourself a favor and get a reading let's move on to some more top stories snap Inc has set a value of 16.2 to 18.5 billion dollars for its upcoming stock IPO shares will be priced between 14 and 16 bucks they are expecting that to bring them in around 3.2 billion dollars in capital good change for him and in fact it'll be the highest valued US stock IPO since Ali Baba went public in the US on 25 billion in 2014 however this did come down just a little bit right from where they were initially trying to push it before the road show yeah in fact it feels like snap is being very conservative here and saying we just want to make sure we sell all of these and we get the the nice bounce that stays bounced unlike if you remember Twitter putting a pushing it kind of to the higher end and then you always get a little bit of a bounce but then it dropped down and it took a long time for it to finally get back above the IPO price there were some fears around Facebook when they went IPO several years back as well so this I don't know this is a new strategy or just a snap approach it is so funny that in a more mature world for tech startups and therefore the IPOs that they are inevitably on the march toward that something that is as far along you know in that chain a snapchat which we of course view to be you know silly or frivolous or or obviously toward a youth market because that's where their growth is is also the more responsible and and learning right you know like looking at all the corpses of IPOs and gigantic failures upon going public before them it's like no you want to know what you're right a Goldman Sachs let's lower our valuation so we can be more fiscally responsible in the quarter let's make sure that our valuation doesn't disappear in 10 seconds yeah now meanwhile investors please raise your eyebrows if you'd like this dog graphic to put a big uh and and of course you you may not use snapchat or you may but enough people are using it and they're making enough money and their momentum is going the right way that a lot of folks are looking at snapchat as something to emulate well i mean also instagram uh tinder acquired wheel a collaborative video messaging app that operates like snapchats live stories we all collect videos around themes like holidays or trips last summer a theme around on schwarzenegger impersonations got a post from schwarzenegger himself wheel co-founder paul brocadis did not give any details on how tinder might use wheel other than to say bringing people together to create let me let me just make the joke now he meant procreate because it's tinder okay got that out of the way now don't put too much pressure it's tinder like you know look uh wheel does something that's similar to snapchat but different right tinder wants to make sure that they stay relevant that they stay up to date so i don't look at this as tinder as trying to be snapchat but tinder looking at hey what snapchats doing is working for a lot of people there's some cool way for folks to get together uh in this way and and contribute to stories and meet virtually each other let's acquire that talent and take the four of those employees and put them on our staff tinder did a fantastic job of understanding that the exact target demographic that wants a dating site let alone something maybe even dare i say scandalously a little bit more casual than dating uh also have live on their phones and may not even have a computer and certainly don't want to go through a 30 page survey to find the love of their life they're literally just looking for somebody right now and that is the market that they carved out in the intervening five years since they've completely kind of dominated that space now everybody's trying to be tinder now all the match advertisements are a little bit more mobile friendly a little bit more hey you know just find somebody as opposed to necessarily meeting your soulmate that's going to bear your children so what tinder needs to do is not only guard against everybody that's behind them in that dating space but also the fact that at some point tinder might lose a little bit of cachet in the same way that plenty of fish did in the same way that match did these things tend to be a little cyclical and they don't want a site like snap or an app like snapchat being the de facto place where you would meet new people and and hook up with them hey it takes the pressure off snapchat too you don't you don't have to worry that that's becoming you know the meat market over there that's that's tinder's job it also gives them a little bit of a uh an in-house resource i think for people to communicate because if they use this as effectively very easy to take and send video messages now you don't have to go to another app to communicate with people and it gives a little bit more social proof aside from just a random tinder image to be like hey i'm down here at the bar you know come meet me yeah now it's now it's a little bit more uh friendly google home just added the ability to order items like toilet paper and shampoo from google express partners just by talking to your google home google express's partners vary by region but around the u.s they include cosco whole foods bed bath and beyond fries and get some computers guitar center yeah hey google home give me a guitar pet smart wall greens delivery times uh range depending on the items in the area from same-day delivery in some cases on up to three days and you can pay a yearly membership or you can decide to just pay a fee per delivery if you don't use it that often google is waving all the fees until the end of april 2017 for folks who shop using their google home and the way you use it is set up a payment method in your google home account and then just say the words and order me some toilet paper you said the words john uh tom have you ever ordered anything off any of these uh these these ai these voice ai thing i did when amazon echo first came along i ordered some dog treats i think is what i ordered how would you like that experience i it worked fine uh maybe i am just too paranoid well no i am definitely too paranoid but maybe that because i'm too paranoid i didn't like it enough because i i just felt like i then had to go to amazon.com and verify that it was there and that it was the right item uh i suppose if i got used to it i wouldn't have to do that every time but i i don't prefer to shop that way and the kinds of things they're always talking about amazon did this too but google home is is talking about oh your daily items your toothpaste your mouthwash i i just buy those at the store still i am old fashioned that way well i mean listen i'm old fashioned too i just ordered off my phone uh so i think that there's there is a nerve wracking problem with this kind of ordering and i think that the more you add different layers to it uh the less people are going to use it i think amazon is in a very unique position because amazon is where you get everything so you can order fishing line and toothpaste and and you are used to them being able to send it to you at a low price at a small shipping charge or and it knows your favorite brand and which one you all that stuff yeah you kind of have to get in the groove uh i think this is a bit catch up by google home but i in general find this entire space to be a little i think you said a perfect anxiety anxiety inducing yeah it did not relax me and i never did it again oh what a convenient way for anxiety on whether i screw something up totally over the next few weeks in canada and the us facebook will roll out the ability for page admins to post jobs on facebook and received applications through facebook messenger applications can pull personal and work details from users facebook accounts users who like a job opening will have a similar job postings of beer in their facebook news feed posts will expire after 30 days we saw you liked product managers so here's more product manager positions uh that's going to be annoying i can tell you that right now however big shot across microsoft's linkedin bow here yeah it's it's certainly far from doing what linkedin does but it is facebook taking a bite out of that market or he's trying to you know they do share a lot of common dna with linkedin linkedin of course is the professional resume uh social network that everybody kind of feels obligated to be a part of facebook is obviously a little bit more of a soft social interaction and yet how many times have we all found an old friend or somebody that we met at the bar and the first thing we do is click they're about to see where they work there is there is a lot of that that kind of goes into how we interact with facebook but this is a classic let's just throw these like you know functionalities against the wall and see if they stick according to facebook this came out of surveys from pages and popular pages that ranked the ability to ask uh due to solicit job applications as a very high priority for them and to be honest i think it might work i you know i the more i think about it as we're talking about it the more i realize that it's not an either or if i'm a hiring manager and i want to find somebody if i think i'm more likely to see the kind of people i want to hire on linkedin then that's where i'm going to post that's where i'm going to look however you get different people if you post that job opportunity on facebook and so if you're like i'm not getting the right applications on linkedin maybe the kind of person i'm looking for is over on facebook and that's the way it should work we shouldn't have just one social network we should have multiple services that that specialize in different areas and so this may not even be trying so much to take a bite out of linkedin as i was saying earlier but but trying to provide a supplementary source or it may end up providing a supplementary source that says hey you can't reach these people on linkedin because they're not that that feels too professional for them or there or whatever but there's people on facebook that you would be able to hire and find so maybe post there maybe post in both places or there's just more people that check their facebook ultimately this is a two-stage problem for facebook number one they have to provide a service for which the employers want to be a part of but it will succeed or fail based on the kind of candidates that these people wind up hiring if it's you know in in six months or a year it's like oh geez well of course uh betsy failed she's another facebook hire then this will not be a success if it's the opposite and betsy is the employee of the year then man facebook's got something going on beatmaster says can't wait for drunk applying instances how about drunk hiring instances over messenger you're hired you sound great ibm will use its watson internet of things platform with visas token technology to allow internet of things devices to act as a point of sale uh so this this is not you this is not google home shopping for you this is devices being allowed to purchase things for companies if you need an example how about an office coffee maker that is constantly resupplied and charges the company per cup so it just this is constantly resupplied by the by the eight o'clock bean people or whoever's servicing it and it just can charge the company as it's used a little more esoteric but a device in a supply chain could allocate purchases to the correct cost center within a company so it's actually not charging anyone outside of the company it's just saying as the things move through oh that that should be charged to the facilities and that should be charged to the creative division et cetera et cetera a few other things that watson is going to be used for french railway sncf is implementing watson to improve railway performance and rico is building cognitive whiteboards that provide voice technology note-taking ability some real time translation and analytics you know this is a fascinating idea on paper to see this we will obviously see where the rubber meets the road when it comes to the technology working all the time because you know this is as good as it will perform but you know as far as internet of things uh breakthroughs go which we have you know covered certainly over the last three or four years this seems pretty red i i feel like this to me points out that internet of things is going a little bit the way 3d printers go so 3d printers was oh i'll be able to print things at home that part has not yet worked out i still think it may but it has not but 3d printers are very successful in the enterprise and in industrial applications i feel like internet of things is going to be more successful in people's houses we all are using thermostats and door locks and and light bulbs to a certain extent that's you know it's more successful than 3d printers in that way but where internet of things is really booming is in the enterprise uh is is like oh this is where we can really sell a lot of these units and get a lot of innovation and this points to that for me where it's not worrying about those of us who just you know want to have our refrigerator or reorder things from amazon it's saying hey you know in an industrial supply chain you could really speed up efficiency and bring down costs if you have these sorts of things managing stuff yeah and for a lot of these companies especially the ones that are plugged into enterprise level uh clients if you can sell a whole new set of whatever's to each company because now you'll save money in the long run uh with these internet of things technologies and that is something that they are very interested in beef in our chat room has got to get rich quick scheme he says adds himself as a coffee machine to multiple business networks smart move and the jt0 says i keep hearing about watson being thrown at things but i have yet to encounter anyone who has an opinion about working with it it's because it's generally working on the back end uh you're not working with watson you're working with things that have been empowered by watson and so far those things you know have worked pretty well yeah when i was at the collision conference a watson and ai is in general we're definitely a gigantic topic and and a lot of what the people from ibm will tell you is hey give us your problem and we'll let you know how watson just makes it easier and then suggest some new ways that we can make your product a little bit more robust so so you are you're generally not unless they want to trumpet it because they think it's going to bring a little uh cachet you're not going to see the like big glowing thing that you you know but see doing the commercials that you know when foot yeah on or anything united nations special reporter david k has called on the government of cameroon to restore internet service to northwest and southwest regions of the country's uh boyah capital of gemeroon southwest region is sometimes called silicon mountain for its concentration of successful tech startups internet service has been disabled in the region since january 17th to combat protests by english speaking minorities against the french speaking central government yeah so you know there's there's a lot going on here uh and we won't get into the the the reasons for the protests so much as the fact that this is a place that has been touted as is one of the growth areas in africa for startups uh bbc did a great story back in april of last year about you know there've been more than 50 successful startups come out of there in the past year and it's just been gutted by this and on top of that just and when we were talking about it before the show you pointed out that it's not just about the businesses that are being undercut here which is bad for cameroon in general but also about the idea of hey if if is internet access a human right yet is it like power and water yet well you know and and you bring up something very very interesting beyond the idea that the internet is something that we rely on more and more as a populace part of the reason why if if let's say an autocratic government was shutting off power you would want to make sure that you know the factory still ran or that the uh the the methods of transportation were not impeded because what you want to do is quell descent right not the economy for which creates the tariffs that keeps the government uh you know fat with cash yeah because the idea here is there is a couple of protest organizations in particular that cameroon declared illegal and wanted to stop from organizing so they shut off the internet as part of that and now the internet has intertwined itself so closely with the economy that you can't just look at it as like shutting down a pirate radio station or something you know this is uh in fact radio radio is a great example that it's not radio it's not television you can't just shut that off and say well now you guys will will lose your way of speaking to a mass audience it's everything it's it is the way that business gets done uh and that's on top of the fact that it's the way that we all interact with each other so this is a fascinating story to me yeah and and uh we touched upon previously and it may have been in daily tech headlines uh the winner of the google coding contest this year was from boya and had to travel to the capital the french speaking capital to get internet in order to let google know yes i i i have heard that i won and and i would like to accept the award and travel uh to mountain view to take to take my award and and get get the benefits of it which involve being able to like work at google a little bit and meet some people maybe get some of that internet take back get some of the internet right exactly hey folks get all the tech headlines each day in less than 10 minutes you can subscribe to daily tech headlines dot com the perfect complement to the daily tech news okay folks gartner had its latest worldwide smartphone numbers uh show apple take the top spot away from samsung still with 17.9 percent this isn't a huge chunk of the world smartphone market but apple is now on top on planet earth samsung number two uh likely because of problems with the note seven huawei comes in at number three followed by oppo and then bbk gartner lists bbk as its own entity bbk actually makes some oppo headsets but also makes vivo and one plus brands on the operating system side uh we've pretty much hit two operating system android has 80.7 percent of the market share ios 17.7 percent that's 97.7 of the world market right there so blackberry is now rounding to zero percent you know that's pour a little out for that uh and windows is i think at 1.1 percent which is it's not its lowest point to be honest but hey i'll tell you what uh i feel like it's like that scene in arrested development where they get uh the bluetooth uh gets upgraded to it don't buy and everybody's really excited so with apple technically writing high but also seeing its number its market share and its sales numbers slowing right the velocity is slowing it's not growing as fast as it used to yeah a lot of eyes are turned to the next iphone this is going to be the 10th anniversary edition and it's going to be a big change and so we've been paying attention to some of the leaks i call these leaks not rumors because they come from sources who generally have cultivated reliable sources that tell them what's happening within apple last week kgi securities analyst ming chi quo reported that apple will launch three new iPhones this year with wireless charging and oled displays quo also reported an additional graphite sheet would be needed for better thermal control nine to five mac last week noticed that apple is listed as a member of the wireless power consortium so that bolsters these claims bloomberg was reporting a similar claim about the wireless part and then quo added more details to his forecast for the next iphone and the letter investors obtained a letter to investors obtained by apple insider uh quo says his sources indicate the phone will not have a physical home button or touch id sensor but the bottom part of the screen will be reserved as a function area for virtual buttons and there will be some kind of new bio recognition technology that will take over device security and there were no details on that meanwhile mark bloomberg's mark gurman says his sources indicate apple's testing a new 4k capable apple tv box that may come out later this year so i want to focus on the iphone for once uh on this just show anyway we haven't really speculated on on new iPhones in a long time uh we've got oled screens we've got wireless charging uh we've got uh what else what else do we have here we've got we've got toby keith song we've got oled we got wireless record we got good old fashion buttons going away uh so is this the thing that brings back the acceleration does apple even need the acceleration of iphone sales i think apple would like oh sure acceleration in their iphone sales it obviously is kind of the big chief engine for them and it is a mature enough platform at this point that they have to start thinking about well where does this go we've had an amazing 10 year run what does the next 10 year look like uh not only for the iphone but also for this space because part of the reason why they have lost a little bit of steam in terms of their growth is just the fact that the market has really caught up with them uh you know the the android uh handsets that were a little janky in the beginning of long since come to maturity google has uh wised up and realized that they got to make their own hardware either in direct uh communication with the manufacturer or all by their lonesome to make sure that the best experience gets into their consumers hands so for apple you gotta look back and i'm sure that there are very very smart people down there in cupartino that are looking back at the history of the iphone and seeing well what has moved the needle for us in the past what can we do now that will make people say well i gotta get this one sure i just bought one last year but this one is the best gotta get on it immediately what triggered that in in in the past when people were on a little bit of a tighter refresh cycle because it used to be form factor change function addition that was form factor change in a number function addition in an s and the seven has been the first one where they didn't change the form factor on that cycle it's basically the same form factor as the six and the six s it added water resistance it took away the headphone jack which i don't think people see as a huge benefit most mostly it added that cool rear dual camera but but the seven was the first time where we're like this one isn't that much different and even then the word around the campfire was which is why i think that you're even further in the right to call these leaks and not rumors that this new one coming out this year was going to be the big change that that if seven underwhelms you don't worry because this everything changes next year that that's yeah and some of the rumors are three different sizes there's rumors of a thousand dollar price point unsubsidized those those are a little less reliable but goes along with the general trend of big changes so let's take a look in in the past uh uh based on what we are able to find uh in terms of iPhone sales it looks as if the the biggest jump was in q1 12 uh a q1 being their their iPhone corner basically yeah it's a little the fiscal q1 starts in october so it's the the q1 for apple it's always the holiday quarter yeah uh and that was that was a huge jump for them uh and and that was 2012 the iphone 5 the first time that they did the the lightning connector and it was the second one with siri which means siri was better yeah and it was the longer display finally finally they changed the size it was a bigger screen uh and this is still in the era where people were making fun of the note for having such a ridiculous large screen not for its battery no no no no and certainly two years before apple decided to revolutionize the game by doing a gigantic plus version uh which came uh two years later with the iphone 6 and 6 plus in uh the in in 2014 uh so at this point now the the and granted don't cry for me i argentina when it comes to apple because now their their their sales have seemingly topped out a bit at 74 billion per like holiday quarter it would 78 this most so they jumped up to the in the 70s in q1 2015 uh largely because of of more international sales chinese sales etc and then they've they've edged up since then uh over the past two years do you think that this this gooses them even even further that this is uh that what well here let me ask you this edge to edge glass no physical buttons and let's let's imagine that the touch id is something that is absolutely mega easy to use and super cool and better than any other bio recognition thing let's just for the sake of of argument let's just say or at least say that that's how it's going to be sold uh do you think that that that makes things move further or is this just a world in which every phone that comes out from every provider does something super amazing at this point things have hardened into a well no i'm an android person or i'm an ios person and i'm just going to buy the cool hotness and apple people will buy the cool new apple thing and those who ain't won't there's a there's a few ways to to come about this first of all acknowledge that apple never does something for the first time yes android phones have had virtual buttons and wireless charging for quite a long time that's always the way that's not really a knock that doesn't actually affect iphone sales that android has done something first so i'm not i'm going to discount that because that's going to be the first android fan response is like well that's not new that doesn't really matter to people who buy iphones what matters is do i need to replace the iphone i have so there's two questions will you get people to upgrade faster will you get people who just bought the seven or even the six s to say you know what i need this new iphone in in large enough numbers to make a difference and then there's a separate question of is this a phone that pulls people over from android to say wow that's really pretty that's a nice implementation i know i could get that in android but i really like that for one reason let me answer that second question of my own first no i don't think any of this does that there may be some software functions that will do this and i may be wrong when we find out more details but from what we're hearing here i don't think this is so compelling that it's going to sway a ton of android people over the reality distortion effect of the big hoopla and the tenth anniversary might but not the specs themselves on the other hand folks in the iphone universe this does look like something where you're like where you're saying and i've been saying since the five there's no reason to upgrade if you if you still get what you need out of the iphone you have uh every year it's not enough of an upgrade i'm wondering i'm questioning that this time around i look at this and i'm like oh led plus wireless charging is pretty compelling and the virtual buttons could go either way it could ruin the experience and change my mind against it or it could make things much better because i was pretty skeptical about the seven's virtual home button and it shocks me every time i turn the thing off and i press the button and it doesn't feel like it got pushed down because that haptic feedback works really well yeah i think that's really the that that's that's the biggest thing that makes me think that an edge to edge display will be something very special for this new phone is that like that haptic feedback is is just they are just on another level with that uh so my my my general philosophy is to not bet against apple when they feel like they really want to push something uh because they're good at pushing the stuff that is incremental they're good at making us think that force touch is going to be a revolutionary new way to interact with with with your phone and that they are indeed brave for eliminating the headphone jack and all of its cumbersome legacy problems uh if they really have something that is special that looks great and i'm sure i can just see the ads now as it seamlessly shifts from the the iphone that you've known in love with a new flashy os that is more productive than ever to with that gorgeous oled edge to edge uh display now it is the best way to view movies the best way to play games on the larger form factor it is it is like nothing you've ever seen and is this glowing infinity stone in your hands uh i think that this could be uh you know something that is markedly different than what we have seen out of the iphone since the five and man kv87 just nailed it in the chat room make that thing wireless charging and usbc just ditch lightning i know they won't do it but that that would that might put it over the top especially now that you've gone usbc on the laptop yeah but the problem is like at this point that would actually annoy me as a person because like all i got is lightning cords i am i am flush with them so i swear to god do not make me buy another cord or another dongle uh thanks everybody who participates in our subreddit you can submit stories and vote on them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com let's get to some emails here dave writes in regarding regarding mark's idea about having a separate password that would wipe your device so if someone compels you to give their password you you'd enter this password and it would wipe the device uh dave says i've heard of other apps that do this sort of thing and here's one of them at ghax.net it's a tool called privacy look that has added disc wiping as an option so it does a bunch of other things it's a it's a privacy protector for your android phone but it adds the ability to set up a password that would maybe just wipe out the contacts or the call log or the memory of the device entirely so these kinds of tools do exist on android if you want to use them but then jason from new york city said hey in response to mark's suggestion that cell phones implement a kill password to wipe your device if you're prompted to unlock the device by authorities and if your goal in using such a feature is to avoid hassles and delays at customs i think wiping your phone would just cause more delay a customs agent who wants to inspect your phone but instead finds a wiped device will likely raise their suspicions and lead to additional screenings and delays more so than if you simply refuse to allow your device to be searched while i could see value for this type of feature in say a robbery scenario customs probably isn't the best place to use it i tend to agree especially if you are in a sorry especially i know this is like that's a look see he listens especially if uh you are are in a situation where where that becomes a real problem i think that there is a line between good hygiene or a political uh uh unease at people being able to rifle through your stuff by way of their their you know governmental power but if what we're looking at is an easier way to get through customs i don't think just providing oh here officer and they're like well this looks blank nothing shady going on please go on in mr blank i like roger's idea of have an image of your phone that you put on before you even go to the airport that has a limited number of things so it doesn't look suspicious but it just doesn't have a lot of your data and then you restore the previous image of the phone after if you're really concerned about it that's probably the best way to go about it i agree what do we got next oh regarding microsoft having the xbox announcement at e3 on a sunday brian writes uh while other companies haven't said when their own conferences are scheduled this seems to be a signal that they might have announcements that would be contingent on a scorpio unveiling that is to say that bates though usually has their conference on a sunday night might benefit from being able to fully talk about scorpio yeah microsoft usually likes to do there's later so they can drift in on others announcements especially sony right uh so so this is them saying eh you know what sony already came out with their 4k box uh we're not worried about that what we want is all the game makers to be talking about how great their games are going to be on project scorpio and it's really smart because this way they can make sure that they control the narrative of e3 because if everybody goes and talks about well hey and look how it looks on scorpio and that's just the de facto 45 minute point of any and all uh demonstrations going forward throughout the conference that is good for xbox and whatever it's not going to be called project scorpio it's going to be called xbox one 4k or the xbox four one k or it's going to have a different name and they're going to want that name to be pounded into your brain by the rest of the the video game although i hope they i hope it's it's hank scorpio from the simpsons uh jamie in it's raining but at least the snows finally melting vancouver writes i was listening to your conversation with scott about chime chime is amazon's new uh video conferencing service and the potential for it to be a viable replacement to skype i've been listening to various podcasts for years and every single one of them tries to use skype for talking to guests and listeners in most cases especially with scott on his various frog pant shows skype is extremely unreliable new updates come out and render seemingly trivial tests inoperable like being able to add a person to a call or hanging up on a call and it seems like in 2016 there should be a more robust solution for podcasters like you tom and justin and all the other people i listen to every day every time i hear a new announcement for a possible skype replacement i always think of you guys and your constant hardships with skype and its many limitations i love all these shows and look forward to the day when a better solution is in play and there are no longer stupid skype moments every day thanks for letting me rant well i mean you are preaching to the choir so much we are literally clapping our hands and chanting hallelujah here's the problem with skype man it's so good it sucks it's been the standard of reliability for so long that they really let the train move them by in terms of doing any kind of real wholesale retooling of their underlying tech there's a great chapter in in the plex the book about google where google was very very very very close to acquiring skype and ultimately they made the decision to not do it because they would never be able to fully integrate it because of the way that their tech toward uh they would have had to just either keep it a separate thing like microsoft effectively has or just staple it onto something else without any real integration uh this is the reason why skype's unreliable unfortunately it's kind of like a highway at this point you can't just fix the the highway that runs through the center of austin texas despite the fact that everybody who gets stuck in traffic that's all they would want is just instantly for two more lanes to be on either side and everybody's commute to get cut down but at the same time everybody's on the highway bitching about it so you can't just tear it down to rebuild it it is it is just the ultimate catch 22 yeah and granted this show we use hangouts uh and and the reason i mean what what justin's talking about there is skype use skype because you know everybody else use the skype so when you say hey i'm going to call you on skype people know what you mean and they generally have it hangouts we use because it allows for auto switching which is really fun and makes things easier and also you can just send people a link and usually that works as well that's about it there's hardly anything else video wise that is as reliable i know we just said it's unreliable but there are other options out there that are even less reliable uh and and makes it easy to to get people on so if even just because okay download this program it's called shy now give it permission for your microphone now give it permission i can't see myself well you have to go into settings and then go into video and then find i can't see myself now just go to yeah a logitech like this is you do not want to do that every time that you have a guest on you just want it to be able to work and skype just works until it doesn't and it makes you want to throw yourself through a plate glass window well thank you right justin robert young i'm very glad that you've not as none of us have thrown ourselves through a plate glass window in frustration at skype or hangouts uh but you do still continue to host a ton of podcast which is great i certainly do everybody can go ahead and check them out uh of course probably the biggest one uh now is is politics politics politics if you enjoy or don't enjoy 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i think uh yes gotta replace that wire the the wire it's it's my five season series about dealing with this particular patch cord um which could be easily replaced for like eight bucks or seven bucks uh so titles can you hear me yeah we can cool i bless the internet down in africa it's a riff on the onk toto uh who by the way also wrote um that song for michael jackson what's it uh human nature oh wow if you ever they actually do uh they do a cover of it like the original um demo of it and it sounds really bad compared to michael jackson apple does things and stuff tinderlove for apple's next trick they will make touch id disappear apple knows the way to sam's day also a rift on the song by dion aurick uh sam song story about sam's song group chief blows up tinder spins that wheel w e l not sure if you just misspelted or if he was being something i'm not understanding probably just a typo okay uh facebook din skype is a highway do you want to write it all night long um it's the only song i know from that guy tom cochran or whatever uh samsung bounces back it stays bounced a lot of tinder stuff tinder creation wheel of tinder apple grapples with their appeal we got good old-fashioned buttons going away don't cry for me apple teeny jackie herron's like oh no mention of pilot x now that they're rolling out today uh because all the ink shares backers uh are getting their books now i actually haven't seen a physical copy of it by the way um but i i will mention pilot x finally on daily tech news show when it hits shelves on march 14th when people can actually just show up in a bookstore and find it well um i bless the internet down to africa's tops apple does things and stuff uh second i don't know none of them are really knocking me out today not to say they're bad i'm just maybe i'm just uninspirable let justin pick justin won't like it he hates everything yeah especially these titles i think you're gonna make one listener very happy that you did that today i think it'll be the biggest time i get email based on this show because it's a steady drumbeat of people being mad at me for saying x special i'm just i just saw the one recently i didn't know it was a drumbeat oh no i it comes all from all over all podcasts people i yeah i talk a lot man yeah you know i always tell them i break i understand it i'm not saying you're wrong i'm just saying i like i do a lot of stuff yeah what's the one there's one that i always get uh heck for oh cupult instead of couple yes but yeah i don't know why you say cupult i don't know where it comes from either it's it's i am in my head i hear my dad saying it cupult cupult yeah to cupult things together and i not not what i'm saying couple when i'm talking about two things i say couple but when it involves like you know cupoling a train or or something like train cars cupoling oh man i i kind of like uh faced in would probably be the most the the safest choice um i kind of wish there was a way to do the i bless the internet down in africa that didn't come off as like kind of sending yeah i mean it's a great toto play yeah it doesn't really work with the story though well and also it's like headlines or the the titles are always like all right it's in my feed do i listen to daily tech news show today this is the snap judgment like does that make sense like faced in is like oh link did linkin merge with uh facebook i don't know are they fighting what's going on i would say faced in faced in as much right faced in faced in done sourdough bowls of clam chatter for everyone hey uh all right guys i'm gonna wrap it up right i will talk to you guys later as always a pleasure absolutely a pleasure as they say in southern illinois johnson tells me his dad said it a pleasure yeah talk to you later bye all right here's text jeb doesn't like the way i say wow a while either a while other one bother you i don't even know what that word is a while awh i le awh oh a while yeah a while now i'm just driving text jeb crazy it's funny i have my my old roommate used to pronounce is insidious as insidious insidious like what great now stoic squirrels like uh giving suggestions cool whip cool whip whip you know that's just because of stewie on uh family guy whip the whole whale whipped whipped cream whip wash or you say wash i don't say wash wash i used to when i was growing up i said washington and wash i say wash now i've been able to train myself on some of these things but a while apparently is not one of them yeah cup couple i'm gonna i'm really good that's where i'm gonna put my energies because that one doesn't make any sense i tried to defend it i'm like ah it's a regionalism it's an accent nobody else in greenville says cupol i don't know where that came from um the rye and spine falls mainly on the pine oh it was zoe's like don't get me started on new ga that's a that's a us versus england australia thing new get that's a read that is definitely a regional thing we we all say new get here that's just the way it's new god that's like i remember when i went to australia and they had ads for nissen cars and it just by me well no it's weird is because nissen in the us is the maker of those instant cup of noodles and so when i heard nissen ads i thought i was expecting it's like why why are the why do you why do you have a why do you have a payment plan for a poll of noodles and then they said that's the other one that bugs me that uh brits and australians and kiwis do actually south africans do is uh mazda as mazda mazda that one doesn't bother me for some reason that because it's it's exactly the guy's name or one of them well then then i get this one a lot beatmaster says new get is a french word so they should know new ga but then we don't pronounce all borrowed french words in a french accent we don't say the exception no no but we do say filet like when i was yeah some we do some we don't you're right like what we were we were in the supermarket in the shade we're shot i was looking at it's like fillet yeah look at the steak fillets it's like someone said fillets i said what the look i looked at my girlfriend this thing what the hell's a fillet i do like say kebab instead of kebab i like kebab better than kebab i mean kebab is closer to the original but here's the other thing there is a point we're trying to pronounce something exactly the same as its originating language is silly like roger rootger there's like it's germanic yeah and there's uh three different it's like roger rootger like because a lot of people like show me is not exactly right tom i'm like it won't be i'm getting it i'm roughly correct because i'm speaking english if i would speak of chinese i would try to nail it speak of mandarin oh mandarin yeah uh is it mandarin for show for show me is it i guess it's the name yeah can't use would still say show me yeah would they pronounce it differently uh they might like and then would that be wrong because it's mandarin name if you're a mandarin speaker yeah but that's what i mean like this is one of those things that spans the the entire stream of human existence definitely i'm sure people back in roman era in the roman times you're saying that's not the way you pronounce it in latin although did did they pronounce did they call it latin back in the day uh like did they i don't know that i'd ever have ever known the answer to that that's a great question i'm very curious now think about like like you were once did they call it roman romanese romanese oh here's a here i was gonna put in a little fun fact that uh i remember someone said like why weren't you called uh you know like you have a uh uh you have a uh englishmen and irishmen scotsman oh right yeah but like frenchmen frenchmen uh but uh like when you get to the the far east you know of japanese chinese right in fact china is usually a derog considered to be derogatory and no one says you know i mean the poneman is is is valid in certain cases but uh i think it's because the way i understand is because the the way the people that discovered or not discovered the europeans that bumped into those areas first were the portuguese and that's kind of how they they their enunciation oh okay kind of influenced the way it was pronounced over the years what about the german germans the germans well you know there was no germanic country or germany right yeah it wasn't it wasn't it's not a word in german yeah it's aleman right or or sorry that's that's spanish it's deutsch deutschland yeah imagine if someone else got to name all those places russland kind of germs germs germs germs germs germs germs germs germs i i call myself an usin a united states of american usin usin usa from usa i actually started thinking that way when i took russian because uh in russia in russian the the the initials of us and a are are so they when they say usa they just say scha they just run it i'm like oh we should just say usa yeah but the usa it's what's an initial right it's not a well no yeah but it's they're basically pronouncing the initials which we do we do that a lot yeah oh yeah but like uh for example this is between uh like norad um there's a whole thing between initialization and acronyms yeah we could treat usa as an acronym i used to call it usa then we would pet says it sounds too jar jar doesn't like it well you can know what's the other one that people but it was so handy because you dig you didn't have to do the whole americanski thing you just say visha vishai just quick done you knew exactly which american country you meant to like nasa nasa nasa oh look this guy just joined the chat room i was i was uh talking about you earlier this guy laser there's an acronym yeah yeah we're just going to usa the land of enchantment wait what is the land of enchantment that's new mexico welcome to new usa the land of enchantment new usa new usa there's a new mexico oh man i a friend who grew up in new mexico and quite often she would have to get in fights with people from catalogs who would tell her oh we don't ship to mexico it's like it's new mexico yeah we don't ship to any part of mexico she'd be like it's in the united states it's a state in the united states took me forever to figure out that there was no new england state new england's really yeah you know like when you're a kid oh i'm gonna go to new england all right we are done for the day thank you all for hanging out with us we appreciate your support and we will do it again tomorrow when we'll talk about arsa conference arsa