 Hello everyone and welcome back to for the minions episode 34 before the minions the weekly show We talk about some of the hopefully what will be the spiritual successors to a paragon and this week We've got news and updates as always we got our poll results We got the highlights and then we got our topic for discussion which I kind of pulled from reddit But anyway, I'm your host the one and only man goose joining me as always is my lovely co-host Mandy Mal Mandy, how you doing? I'm doing well. I'm pretty excited. We have some fun stuff to talk about this show And we have a really cool guest mr. I am gamer 22, but we're gonna call him gamer for the rest of the show Thank you appreciate it. Yes Thanks for being here. Thank you guys. Honestly. I I'm so excited grateful to be here Really really pumped right here. I'm excited. Thank you. We're happy to have you I've been watching your videos on YouTube and oh my god So funny Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. What was your background with Paragon? Who's your favorite hero and all that? I'm sure people know by now. They figured out the thumbnail. Yeah, the thumbnail thing. Yeah Yeah, so but you know, it's okay Kalari 100% favorite hero was Kalari, but version Free version 27 Kalari before before they you know reworked or you know Vesectomy or you know What you know what they did to her was just you know tragic, but you know I really really enjoyed her right then and there I played this game before right before even several I was like announced or released. That's when I started playing this game. So like way back like right when it started so Really loved Paragon played it for so much so many hours Man, it's that's why I'm like here. I want to talk about it I want to talk about these new games. I want to be here. That's like just Paragon was my I was my I was my itch like we want that itch back, you know, that's why we're here You play Kalari when she was hard when she was oh an actual car Like what she was hard she was she was expert ranked all right, you know only experts could play her, you know It was it was the fantasy if you could land that old man, you could change a you can change the game Oh, I know a lot of people didn't really you know have experience with like really good Kalari's at that time because Learning the game and stuff like that so yeah But who if you had if you had someone that knew how to play Kalari, dude If you were even losing it wasn't over it wasn't over yet Because he's like a land to double if he's landed double or even a triple on a on a on the on the team triple old on him Yeah, he was he was amazing. I liked her and then they destroyed her, but it's fine Let's get into the news and updates and we're gonna start this week with Omega studios because they have been spitting out updates so fast They've been machine gunning them out They've they've definitely recovered from that alpha and they've fixed a lot of the stuff that went wrong with their alpha I'm just gonna go through the whole list here since there's so many of them Then we'll talk about them. So fringe added a new visual option Menu to the game so now if you know doesn't matter what kind of computer you have you have all kinds of new settings that you can Put in and he's just been drastically improving the performance of the game you could see the FPS counter in his streams and yeah, he's doing great things and He also created a gray box map specifically for testing out new stuff So now they have that tool at hand and as far as the entire team goes They redid the item system the function with the new combat system. So the item system now functions with gas and They finish the buffs the red buff will give attack power and a damage modifier As the blue buff will give me it gives mana for now And they do plan to have it give CDR like it used to in the future But for now, they don't quite have that figured out. So it just gives mana. So Whole lot of stuff coming out of a meta studios Mandy, I'll give you the helm since that's since that was your baby What I'm hearing from all of this is it sounds like They only have what like minions and towers left and then maybe we get our grubby little hands on an alpha Very tested out towers. Um, oh They they tested out jungle minions. They just haven't done the lane minions yet. I think I think that's one of the things They need to work on yet. Okay. Well, that's that's Exciting me. That's very exciting to me. I I've been Kind of hinting at the mods because I've seen the mods doing their internal testing and I'm like, yo, is it is it too late to be a What do I got to do I'm just really excited. I feel like for me personally Predecessor is going to be the one that scratches that itch that we were talking about I just feel like that's gonna be the one for me. So I'm Excited to hear all this. They are working so hard and I appreciate it. I think we all do Gamer, what do you think man? Oh That sounds I mean, I love when they have like updates kind of like this when they sign up that information You're just like, yes. Yes finish it do it. Yes Yeah, same same with Mandy kind of the same just like yes Something smokey was asking about in his stream that I couldn't remember You being a legacy player as well Hmm. Were you able to hold red and blue buff at the same time? Or did you have to drop one to pick up the you could hold all three? Red blue and black. Yeah, that's what I thought I remember. I thought I remembered seeing him around And you felt like a boss had all three of money Let's go. I could take towers. I could hit you hard and I got man to bro Yeah, honestly for real you say you know that black off. Oh That black buff was yeah, that black buff is though. It was like, all right, let's put that on a gray stone. Okay, let's go in on the rampage easy Yeah, I'm excited about that. Oh man. I'm just excited about how fast they're moving right now like they seem to Doubled their pace as far as the work output goes one one on a predecessor I think they took a step back and took a breather after the alpha which it will deserve breather Yeah, but uh, yeah, the alpha. Ah, yeah Yeah, you guys got in I was I was I was like, you know, it's kind of sad. I was like come on smoke Bro, you know me and mongoose are basically best friends now Oh, yeah I'm here man. Gosh, you know Well, I hope you get in I think the first round was a lot of influencers and Creators and stuff, but the the second round should should cover a lot of just just you know Player lottery lottery pretty much drawing. Yeah, as it were and you can still sign up for their alpha by the way You can website. Yeah. Oh, so if you haven't signed up yet, you can go do that And then um, which I probably wouldn't be saying if I wasn't already in the alpha. I wouldn't be hiding that Well, where can you sell for the alpha you can't Let's move on from a man of studios to ethereal and uh, I do apologize. I ramped it up last week I thought that I was going to get some Something bigger than what I ended up getting. However I didn't want them to rush something just for my show and I also didn't want them to delay something just for my show And so the up there's going to be some major updates to their website Should be fairly soon. I don't know an exact date, but uh, I didn't want to give them some sort of time frame that they had to meet And um, so there's going to be a lot of really good information when that does happen So undyinggames.com Hit it up bookmark it and keep an eye on it because there's going it's it's going to be a lot It's going to be a huge dump of stuff that I know, but you guys don't know As a consolation prize though, they are Allowing us to uh to reveal one of their supports the sport That's not planned for the alpha But she will be this kind of shows that they are planning ahead for the future and Mandy you got your titties all twisted up over this girl. Why don't you introduce her? Oh, I'm so excited. We have dr. Grace and her mech Her freaking mech. I'm so excited. I love me a chick with a mech. I'm sorry. No idea. You're a mech girl You know everybody's got their stuff. I'm like I'm like a fantasy anime guy. You're a mech anime Yep, I am a mech girl. What do you fall gamer? What do you what do you think? dude, uh The images, uh, I got really excited. You know, I had like a little kind of like a kind of like a hard case Howard survive with the front of it and then uh, I Yeah, saw her out of mech and I was like, wait, is she gonna be kind of like a diva Kind of thing maybe she gets out of mech turns into the like, you know Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. Yeah, you know, I mean, but even though in overwatch Maybe diva is like a little freaking cinnamon stick can't freaking hit that chick. God dang it That's why people hate her so hopefully they have a a moderate hit box. Jesus, please Yeah And she is spicy, um Gosh, yeah, I don't I don't know that information. I don't know if that's like an ultimate ability where she calls in her mech But or if she's just Amazing, um, it looks freaking huge like compared to Like I can't imagine that thing It would just dominate a lane you could body block the crap out of so much stuff You could just stand in front of projectiles. I mean, yeah So I imagine the plans are With her being a support then obviously I would imagine her shield her mech is gonna have some sort of shielding, you know Ability and so I'm really really excited because when your girl's not a carry She is a support and so if I can be a support with a mech Just sign me up sign me up Yeah, you you you uh, you blew your top over the mech. I was surprised Yeah, I I was excited. I just got a text. He's like she's got a mech I know it's so funny Yeah In appearance she looks a bit like if you took decker and bellica and kind of mixed them together Uh, which I'm sure they're probably going to receive some flak over that like, you know The similarities between her and definitely bellica. She definitely looks very bellicose Yeah, I don't think there's so many there's only so many ways you could do futuristic Soldier girl, you know The way I looked at it was a nice little nod to paragon whether they meant it that way or not You know, it was kind of like we see you paragon players We we recognize that you are following our game and but that that's I'm not putting words in their mouth that couldn't You know, that's probably not what they meant, but uh, that's just kind of what I thought I was like, what's nice. It feels like home to have a character that you know looks like someone you recognize Bellica support was an option. A lot of people played bellica support and it was uh, it was pretty it could be fierce. It could be fierce Um One of the things they said they were talking about is, you know, they wanted they wanted to point out that she's covered Head to toe in armor They've been kind of called out a little bit on overly sexualizing some of their female characters But they they really want to drive home that they want the outfit to fit The the character and they're not going to focus so much on what's overly sexual and what's or or not So, you know futures to soldier girl is going to have full armor Whereas leia the jungle queen is going to be dressed like she's a native in the jungle, you know, so I think uh I like that route. Um, you know me. I prefer the over sexualized stuff and Everybody complained and ruined it for me. So I mean look at malaya now. It puts so much clothes on malaya. Oh my god Too much clothing We're going to break that shit off like uh Soul caliber. Yeah, just let it let a game be what it wants to be and I'm saying a lot of people You know complain and they're have like this tunnel vision of what they wanted to be. It's like no, it's not It's not your game. All right Go make your own game Geez, you're not working every day day and night trying to get this thing started like just just let them let them do the thing I mean, I have to say as A girl who I guess should be offended by over sexualization You know, I never thought that they looked over sexualized at all. I mean unless I'm just used to it, but Ain't nothing wrong with some titty. We had it first year on for the minions. She is fine. Okay, chill New t-shirt right there. Teddy's never hurt nobody That's right Is that anybody else have anything to say on ethereal? I think we're good Game, are you good two thumbs up? Excellent. Oh, yeah. All right. So moving on made a buff. We got nothing phoenix rising We got nothing as I said made a buff kind of going to go in the back burner Like phoenix rising usually is until they uh, so they get some stuff going so let's uh, oh, yeah And I want to remind you guys, uh, I always include the um the social media links in the video description So if you want to check out any of these games on your own Please do so especially their discords are very good places to find some information But let's move on right now to the poll results for this week And we're doing the most impactful ultimate thing again And we're almost done with the preliminary rounds and moving into the semi-finals And uh, this week we had steel terra the fey twins barrage and then twins ventilate since he had two different ultimates throughout the course of the game and uh Steel won by a pretty good margin. Um, he had 50 percent of the vote the It was really between steel and the fey and the fey had 35 percent of the vote. Um I agree with this one, uh as much as I love the fey. I think steel's ultimate was a bit more impactful. Um I I know what the fey I used to I used to get so mad mad when people would break line of sight for the Fly trap and then it would just wouldn't work whereas steel It was an immediate effect effect and it would always work and it could It could either start a combo or finish a combo, you know what I mean? So Very cool stuff. What do you guys think of uh gamer? I know you said you you felt steel kind of would would have edged this one out Yeah, definitely a lot more people like to play steel than the fey and the place fly trap It was a little bit too slow Uh because you could just do the purity sensor and then you just wouldn't even the whole team would just be fine And then they was just like, okay. Well, that was fun Yeah, so steels was a little bit more quicker and it wasn't it was really hard to react Uh as fast. So yeah, still shield slam was a knock up slows people down creates, you know, crowd control So, yeah 100 that one was that one's a lot better than the fey's uh terra is on top of the forest I even played terra. So One of the comments of the poll was who's terra I Like it's kind of it's kind of shitty that her ultimate beat twins. So I mean Barrage was more of a wave clear Then like a team fight And then ventilate was just Ventilate was good if people used it right, but Oh my god I mean, I did casting call forever just you know casting different games And so many people you would see him just using ventilate point blank and doing jack shit Like absolutely nothing with it because it was hard to control Point blank if people could just move and you wouldn't be able to hit him It was it was really meant to chase somebody down and finish him off. So yeah, it was that last that was that last It's ever poke. Yeah So not not not that impactful not that impactful Yeah, so I I I agree with the uh results this week. Definitely steal. Mandy did did did I get what you think? Um, no, but that's okay. Uh It's because I don't care what you think because you don't care I I agree with the results. I think um, you know I I did go ahead and vote for fey because I felt bad. I was like, I want to win Oh, but with that underdog Yeah, I I always like that underdog I actually I voted for steal and then I saw he was winning. I'm like, let me go ahead and give fey Let me give fey a little a little boost because those were definitely the two that were The the main in this race as you can see by the results Um, but unfortunately fey's just had way too many, um, but not a lot but more I guess counters you could say Then then steal. I I usually judge these by how fucked up I got by these ultimate And I got fucked up a lot for fey's steal Well, I mean you didn't play a legacy back with steal would put shockwave on So he would hit you with the ultimate Oh man, I hope elit comes back. We've discussed this on the show before I hope all of them come back dude. I hope like another notch Like just like what thirsty lord rg says britic just all of them come that was like mine That was that was like the core man. I love those guys. I watched them all the time Shane Lynch They might come back I love those guys I'm geeking out over here. I apologize. Sorry mongers as well. That's why I'm on the show. I you were first But I I thought it was already, you know No, we're near as big as a lot of those guys and those guys were way better at the game than me. I'll tell you Really big Okay, that's what she said and Let's move on right now to the highlight reel um I'm kind of running low on highlights So if you guys have any highlights that you want to send in just go ahead and uh Throw them to me on discord or link them in a comment in the description below or whatever I kind of had to had to dip into some of the old uh casting call highlights for this one But uh the the last one is from creed who hosted the the the show recently and it's a pretty good pretty good Revenant clip. So uh, let's go ahead and get into the highlight reel That's died x has the purple buff and he's growing around looking for some fun And it looks like he's founded with a low health nabash pops that rocket out takes him down pretty easy He does miss the mine on giddy and giddy is going to try and get away He's bobbing and weaving but he can't bob and weave out of that rocket rampage Alting up going straight after howlister trying to take him out of house There's going to use the make it rain to get out of there prevent the escape for rampage and take him down Now aurora comes in with a big cryosism But how is her to be able to back up just far enough away so he doesn't get frozen He did take a little damage nice pull from rictor sets up another rocket to the face for twin blast Now aurora has got to be careful here. She's under her tower, but she's well within range of another fucking r2000 rocket Here it comes. It's not enough, but the boulder from rampage picks up the kill Dangly balls in the blue team are waiting out the perfect opportunity here She comes in with the cryosism after the glacial charge frozen simulcrums out follow it up by the thunder dome That is all four members of the red team wiped out immediately bellica just stays back in her base and says fuck that noise i'm going home For this final clip we got creed who hosted the show recently and he is bearing down on fig mal the shield has run out He's going to pop in with a couple shots get him low enough to blow him those kisses from hell And take down fig mal, but he's not done He's going to he's sharking around he sees the people are taking some damage sparrows trying to get away He pops her in the back of the head She's trying to run and now it looks like aurora wants some she's going to try and hop out of there He's going to run her down takes her out with another auto attack He puts fey in the heather realm fey brings him back with the fly trap, but that's not going to be enough He takes fey down as well. He's extremely low in health now It probably needs to go but his teammate is asking for some assistance with this bellica He's more than happy to oblige So he can pick up that pentakill Oh Shit boys Okay, everyone. Welcome back. I hope you enjoyed those highlights But for now we're going to delve into the topic for discussion this week This is a question i saw on reddit recently and i thought it was uh Thought it was interesting. Um, would you play a new moba if it was created by epic? So uh gamers you you were excited about this and what do you what's your thoughts? Oh That's a That's gonna be a no Maybe No, I can't I can't no that was too much disrespect. I couldn't do it. Uh, I'd be like, you know what? After after fortnite launched and all that and then they were like I know snip snip and everybody's free though. So it's okay. No, I was so mad. I was like No, no, I wouldn't I would be I'd be so mad first of all camera if it happens if it happens like camera wins He's got to go. I need him fired immediately Number two I need Dave superville to come back and he needs to be the head and then Maybe maybe at that point and then all the r team comes back. I'll be good balance team needs to Yeah, back out balance team needs to go new balance team and then yeah, maybe I might consider it if thieves superville came back Steve Yeah, that's a superville. That's a really good point. Yeah, Steve superville came back and they fired Um came with them does need to go. Yeah, but definitely donald muster donald muster was the Was the real shit. I'll point at that. Oh donald mustered. I didn't even know that name. He has a horrible man Yeah, he's a horrible person He uh, that makes that donald mustered. Yeah, I could tell he was just like, all right guys How are we gonna make more money out of this game? That's exactly what it was. Yes. Um, I kind of uh I called him a bitch in my um Murdoch overview video But what it was they brought him in he was an expert on making money off of mobile games on monetizing mobile games And they brought him in after steve superville to direct the game and that's when we started that's what shit Really went down to hill. Yeah And like some of the heroes that they brought out I was like Like what are you doing? Oh, no the time to kill. Oh, no multi shot. What the fuck? Multi shot. Oh multi shot. No self-respecting carry ran that shit. Gosh Why'd you look at me goose? Why'd you look at me? I wasn't looking at you, but I'll call you Gary tea you use multi shot, Mandy. Did you use multi shot? I may have tried it. Oh my god Listen really He's your favorite who kong is that it? It's like we're talking about crack I may have tried it, but just what Listen, everybody was doing it. I felt I felt It once I did it once it was just so easy. It was just so easy to do it again Just kept on you know clicking the gem and using it again I didn't really have to am I just kind of shot in the general direction and I'm sorry And before I do it, I wasn't even aiming anymore This is your sparrow this is your sparrow one multi shot gem Thanks I don't know if yeah, if they did make a paragon too, I feel like it would be Um, it would be like a drug like I would hate myself for it, but I would have to go back. I would have to go back Yeah, I mean if they made any other moba, I would tell them to go fuck themselves, but yes same Yeah, that's my that was my exact answer if they brought paragon back in paragon's heyday Absolutely, I would play it again. No questions asked. I probably wouldn't even feel that bad about myself Just do it But any other moba? No, thank you. I you know, I've I've said numerous times. I'm not even necessarily I'm not a moba fan so much as a paragon fan So that's why I mean it it introduced me into the genre and made me a fan But it was it was paragon in itself and and what it Was as a game that that brought me To mobas, so I'm not like I don't I'm not I don't need an epic moba in my life. I just need a good third person moba in my life Epic moba. I don't need no Oh, no, that's an interesting question. You know, I love that question. That's awesome question Yeah, the good one sometimes it's good for something Yeah, sometimes Little too far I didn't read it in the comments. I'm sure there was a crazy. Oh a comments is read or just filth man. Don't even look in the comments Don't do it. You like scroll down like what in the Man, I need to poison my eyeballs today. Let me take a look at this Yeah, yeah, I'll read it So, uh, is that it? Does anybody else have anything to say about the topic for discussion? Yeah, no. Yeah, look at fortnight. I don't want to play fortnight moba. No, boo that. Yeah Right on So let's move on to plugs. Uh gaver. What do you got to plug man? Uh, I twitch Yep names on the bottom of the screen Look it up Actually, I couldn't put the 22 in because of the font I use so oh Well, I am underscore gamer 22 is my twitch slash dot tv. Come follow me. I hope we're gonna have a great time in chat much love And he has a youtube too, which I like I said I've been watching his come as uh, his video isn't a pretty goddamn funny I can't imagine. I mean, he's a pretty dull bag. So yeah So manny, what do you got to plug? I twitch as well. Um And that's it Wow All right, as usual I got nothing to plug. Uh, so, um, I left everybody with a question last time I'll leave everybody with a question this time Would you rather Take a full on punch from grucks like right in the face Or wear his loincloth as a headband for a day And I'm talking like a hot summer day where you got to run around outside and shit You can't just sit inside an air conditioned room So Mandy, what would you rather would you rather take a punch from grucks or wear that loincloth as a headband? Take a punch gamer When that loincloth I would be proud to wear that I'm taking the punch. All right, cool. Yeah, I'll take that. I want to get good knock to another Entry. Yeah All right guys Go ahead and let let me know what you think what your answer is in the comments below But for now, this is the four the minions crew signing off. You guys have a good one Man go All right, and we'll start it up in here in a few seconds here. So oh wait, wait. I have a question Yes, go ahead sit your hands How how do you want me to to enter? How do you want me to introduce you? I am gamer 22 or so? Well, yeah, I like to be called gamer. I don't like the whole thing. You'll you'll get really tired. You're okay Like I'm yeah, and this can be awkward. So just say gamer Be good. All right. Yeah Like yeah, yep Yeah, I don't know you can just be like I this because well I don't know because my twitch is I am gamer 22. So you just say that and I'll just be like call me Okay, cool. And then we'll have a plug system at a plug. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How's that? You can plug yourself Thank you That was a rude thing to say to our guests In the night with all due respect. Well plug myself That do mean with all due respect