 مرحباً، مرحباً، عندما نتحدث about the problem of talent in the Arab world we must start with education. Some may think that if you get additional degrees it will enhance your opportunity in the labour market but the situation is different in most Arab countries. The rate of unemployment among university graduates is higher than the rate of unemployment among other people. What can you tell us about the level of education in Palestine and to what extent is this education and graduating people who are ready for the labour market? First, allow me to say that all the educational systems in the Arab world overlap in terms of the problems. We need courage to change and we need to recognize that the existing educational systems cannot create a generation that is capable of entering the labour market. Let's ask ourselves how many of our children every morning like to go to school? The second question. How many of those children when they wake up and know that there is no school for some reason are happy? The answer will be around 80%. This is a thorny issue. Why don't our children like school and why is demand on school among children is sometimes very little? First, because we have established in the third world the culture of the certificate that the children learn from the test and from the test for the certificate and there is the pressure of the parents for this academic qualification until they get the certificate and also the culture of entrepreneurship is almost absent in education. Thirdly, vocational and technical education is almost absent because it is the victim of the social discrepancy. They want to be doctors and engineers and they do not heed on technical and vocational training and the last point is the social aspect as the society judges people based on their certificates and tries to classify them socially. That's why in Palestine we said the things cannot persist as such and we changed our curricula totally. Now on the 20th of August we will present a new curriculum that takes into consideration ethics and civics and also vocational training and also business education because we want to create a generation that is capable of breaking the stereotype. In the Arab world we put our children in school so that to keep them away from streets and we decide what our children want and this is a big mistake that we commit and I believe that this film attested to this reality that if I don't want to put my child away from school even if he is talented because we want to be part of the social classification which makes my children acceptable in society. In classes 7-9 our children will be exposed to different careers we will try to convince the children that vocational training is favorable because it establishes for a decent living and also we are changing the high school system. This terror created by the high school because many people here are smiling because they have gone through this kind of terror. The children are still in the beginning of their lives but they are terrorized before entering college because of the high school. Now we are speaking of rockets and space science and people are accessing different planets but the Arab world are still captives of the high school and the social classification and the grade you get from the high school. We have eliminated this on the 3rd of June we will have the first high school in Palestine after 54 years of the terror and we have opened our classes for an additional class for extracurricular activities so that we don't put our children in the same model and also preschool education has become mandatory because preschool education gives the entry more suitable point of entry Mr. Nabil The situation of the Saudi Universities is slightly better than the Arab world because if we look about the classification the ranking of global universities globally several are Saudi among the best 300 To what extent are these universities preparing their graduates to work in a giant company like Aramco In Saudi Arabia we are fortunate to have universities that are considered among the best universities in the world During 8 years or more we have attracted the output of these universities after working in Aramco Saudi Arabia the companies send them for masters and higher education and we also send them to global universities the best universities in the world and we noticed that they excelled and they came back to the company and they were of great benefit to the company this basic structure is quite important to us I believe that the company has been fortunate for having such universities The relationship of Aramco with the universities is strong and sound and strategic we rely on the universities only you have certain partnerships and you have your own academy at Aramco we rely on universities and mostly on other institutions as the minister said 70% of our employees work or are graduates from the technical education they have graduated from high schools but our company brings them and has around 28 training centers all over the kingdom and during the past years and frankly speaking these institutes have graduated several generations and continue to graduate generations in all the sectors of oil and gas for us these training centers are among the most important centers that made Aramco have its own internal employees the rate of Saudi employees is around 90% who work in all sectors they work in technical issues that face major challenges and during the past few years our company took this expertise and exported it to other companies to benefit the country and as part of our social responsibility to repeat this experience we have established around 15 academies outside Aramco to serve the private sector outside Aramco I have a question if there is a student who has enrolled in the Aramco academy is this enough and this person does not need a university certificate to be employed at Aramco it depends on the kind of work it is we have many jobs but work such as research and development but most of them for most of them the high school is enough in addition to two years of training in our academy in certain areas as for research and technology of course this is not enough but we need more educated people with higher certificates Mr. Adnan I would like your opinion you are a businessman and lecturer at several universities I would like your opinion the problem that we face is that we have talents and we have employment but it is impossible to have talents unemployment without an economy this is an integrated process what is talents what are talents talents are potential human potential and this is either this is utilized either positively or negatively based on the educational environment in schools and universities and the social environment so if it is activated in a proper manner it will give us positive outcome that would lead to creativity at the individual level and at the group level and also creativity with money through transparent methods and this by itself would lead to a local national product and which constitute a start for a local economy that would lead to employment secondly if you are interested secondly if the education and upbringing is negative or not correct this makes this potential give us a negative outcome that would lead to depression and extremism this would be an economic extremism rather than investing in people this by itself in my opinion is extremism rather than invest in people for 5 or 10 or 20 years so that there will be a return on investment even 20 years later this is important there will be economic extremism social extremism and religious extremism therefore each child has his own potential how can we activate this potential the educational system in the Arab world is mostly obsolete and it has this patriarchy the first in class every child wants to be the first in his class this leads to depression among children you cannot rank second or third you have to rank first this mentality lasts with children until graduation and they adopt the same behavior and work that's why people want to dominate and control socially, politically and elsewhere this kills the spirit of teamwork and growth and kills the economy therefore we need to focus on personal skills rather than technical skills there are 3 point ceases how can we grow and increase this potential this happens through education in class 1 and even before we have to strengthen teamwork teamwork is almost absent we are successful as individuals but we fail as groups our companies are mostly owned by one person we do not like to share this is a very serious issue and our money does not believe in many of the ideas and the brains that exist locally therefore there is a brain drain because of the absence of an enabling environment therefore the educational system must be changed fully starting with class 1 so that it would allow for neutral specialized committees to get to know the potential and the skill for each child and try to strengthen these talents through certain educational systems at the basic education or at the level of secondary education and this would alleviate the burden of universities upon when they receive the students our students concentrate on getting good grades rather than innovation creativity those who get the grade of 100 or 95% in the high school they would go to school of medicine although they don't want to go to the school of medicine maybe they have some talent in religious studies or the opposite maybe true but we classify our students according to their averages rather than their talent and their creativity خديجة I would like your opinion you are an entrepreneur and we know that entrepreneurs need technical skills and personal skills such as leadership and other skills have you acquired these skills from the school or university in the university the university played a strong role in developing my skills education in education we need to go to schools for memorizing and for getting knowledge however in university we gain real experience the number of years that we spend in university has an impact we are in the internet era and everything all the knowledge exists in the internet and we can get it online there is a need for new standards in education we need to give our students things that they cannot find online such as improving their own skills and to open the give them the enabling opportunity to unleash their potential so it's a two way process not only one way the students should not only receive they shouldn't be on the receiving side only but they can also be interactive we will take now a short break and after the break we will continue our discussion about education and the women participation in the labor market stay with us thank you just stay with us just one second just one yes no maybe just one what do you want? I want to be a doctor I want to be a doctor I don't want to be a doctor I want to be a doctor really? yes education continue quickly and the women participation yes okay do you have it? okay thank you thank you I am ready I want to be a doctor watch the Arab ladies and gentlemen welcome to this session moderated by the Arabic at weft the Dead Sea about the talent revolution minister let's go back to the topic of education there are demands that since we have about to have a fourth industrial revolution and given the very quick changes in the labor market therefore the changes in the educational sector must keep abreast with such changes hence there are demands for the online education currently the online certificates are not accredited do you believe that the Arab countries must accredit the online education certificates frankly speaking yes the educational system must get out of this of the box and to be able to use the high tech to improve the skills of people as for the accreditation institutions these take into consideration the concern that this person has not actually studied this material for which he has obtained the certificate however it is a very simple process when a person gets a certificate online maybe there can be an accreditation exam held on the subject that he has studied in order to verify that this person has actually acquired the relevant education and that there is no fraud therefore we cannot stay away from online education but we need to speed up our steps towards that education especially for the Palestinian society that is suffering from a state of isolation therefore online can resolve this problem of access to education I believe that advancement of education is very important for human advancement we cannot speak about economics or startups or technical education improvement or even political competence except through appropriate education I agree that we need a revolution in education in the Arab world and we need to move away from the obsession of certificates people have different skills and different potentials and we need to address these skills away from the memorization strategy that is used in our education we need to move away from conventional education to deep learning if a person has a certificate through online education what is your reaction in Aramco we have figures that show that only 6% of people who have online certificates actually graduate so is this online education a solution for the problem or we need a hybrid model between online education or distance learning and classroom learning I need to comment on education first I have a different point of view from the other panelists we have spoken a lot about the role of education and the need for change however I personally believe that there is a big role for companies and the private sector and the parents in my opinion education is responsible however there are others who are responsible based on our experience in Aramco we have taken people who have received no education and who come from different traditions from all over the areas of the kingdom and with training those persons have become senior leaders in the world in their own sectors true that education plays a role however there is a responsibility on the private sector as for the distance learning and online education just like most other companies we not recognize it because there is no international accreditation for these certificates not internationally but in the Arab world actually but we can also judge the potential of the individual maybe this person has potential but this person could not get a conventional certificate but he received it through distance learning and so long as he is gifted and through the personal interview maybe we can benefit from his talent we always look for people who are of different nature sometimes we recruit not only based on the certificate but on skill some say that the illiterate is the one who does not know coding and programming for in the future everything will be focused on mathematics and engineering and other sciences should universities in the Arab world focus on these particular topics or should we teach the student how to think the changes in the labor market will be very rapid and perhaps what we have to teach is to teach how to think schools aim to develop the potentials of the child whether the child is at school or at university level education is to give tools to develop the different potentials of the student and his talents given to each human being each human being has certain talents distinguishing him or her from others such as the DNA the fingerprint and other such examples and every person is creative the challenges how can we find the center of creativity in each person so far we do not have such systems education is a tool we have four persons in the world who had they been born in our part of the world or studied here would have died out Bill Gates Steve Jobs and these are people who do not have university degrees however they studied in schools and in an environment in a family and society in general who had they not had such potentials they were able to develop this into a certain vision and they had the determination and the passion this created a big energy in them which turned into a positive energy and there was a financial mechanism that invested in them and they built these big companies their income is over bigger than the budget of big parts of the world hence we have to have in place mechanisms that at an early period will identify these talents among children and nurture them whatever the class level of the child in some cases we might even be dealing with people who have no education but to identify such talents is a duty a national duty and a human duty and even a religious duty but no child is the same as the other each person is distinguished we should also put in place mechanisms for increased participation of women and this mechanism will not be effective and efficient in the absence of democracy and leadership in Arab states leadership plays a major role the leader should have a vision and we have some examples of this in the Arab region there has to be a vision in order to lead the people including the educational and financial and investment systems if we are to bring about changes we have to increase the participation of women which is almost lowest in Arab countries are there laws that could protect the rights of women perhaps in Morocco there is a law that protects against gender disparity at the labor market how far is this law efficient in order to bring about the necessary social and economic revolution that we aspire to in the region and the importance of society should participate and this means men and women and youth whether male or female the sector of youth and the sector of women are rather marginalized today in relation to the economic social and political spheres this marginalization can have its effect on their presence in the economic field because the politicians draw up the laws and if the laws are drawn only by men then there will be no laws to create a suitable environment for youth and women to enter the labor market in an appropriate manner hence the needs and requirements of youth and women from the labor market are different the world has been tailored out to the priorities of men therefore a woman 90 days after birth she has to go back to work without giving any consideration to her rights perhaps for further maternity leave for the laws have to be adaptable to the natural situation of each sector of society hence to include women and youth in the political decision making will ultimately lead to the integration of women and youth in the labor market conventional companies that have been operating for the last 30 years do not provide the necessary environment for youth to develop their entrepreneurship which could be in different areas this may not be only restricted to new technologies it could be also in the role of youth in different companies the same applies to women in job interviews for example there are studies that say that women focus more during such interviews on the work culture and the nature of work rather than focusing on the salary they will get which means women have different expectations from the labor market than the company sets so therefore have you personally faced difficulties during your work being a woman I faced what any ambitious person man or woman would face for the ambitious young person wants to implement his ideas our companies with their conventional methods do not allow the way before new ideas and new initiatives and if you want to work in a company you have to be committed to the preset framework as a woman there are certain issues that may obstruct we are speaking of a glass ceiling that exists a glass ceiling that you cannot go through to advance within the hierarchy of this company there is no law against for example women getting married but statistics indicate that women are more at the base of the hierarchy than at the upper echelons this means that a woman who is building a family is obliged not to take up certain jobs now let us move on to another topic you are managing tens of companies what is the participation of women in your companies over 50% because we are based on teamwork any development any economy any building of society should have teamwork the team does not mean everybody is the same it is based on diversity a team of 5 persons means each one should be different in their experience and in their way of thinking so that they can come together and build with their uniqueness build something and a female worker is a basic component for success how many of them are in leadership positions 50% I have a CEO a president a vice president we do not distinguish between men and women it is only the qualification that counts and there are many women who have the qualifications and the experience similar to men or more with all due respect women are more committed than men this I have noted there are even studies that have demonstrated that that companies managed by women are more profitable and women are good at multitasking also yes that is true and they take their job seriously Mr.Nabil how far do women contribute in Aramco at present we have 35% participation for women 5% participation of women but we want to expand this let us think of it as a process as a pipe and in the new generation there is a large number of women and as the doctor has said women are more devoted but their productivity is better and their achievement in schools and universities is better so we hope that the future will be positive for women in the Aramco company yes there is an orientation and there is a vision for raising the participation of women from 22% to 30% yes and Aramco has a major role in this vision between Aramco and GE these companies they have established a training center for women in Saudi Arabia where 20,000 women are employed and Aramco has taken certain areas such as business processing invoice verification and other work at the IT help desk and allocated these positions to women hoping that they will be managing them in the future and we hope that in the future the numbers will go up and at present they say that the minister of education should be also the minister of labor so what are the decisions that should be taken to increase the participation of women in the labor market we do not have a certain quota for the number of women in the different boards of companies is this required would I want to be both on education because we should abandon spending on armament and to devote our money on to education we have stored sufficient weapons today we have to store the other weapons human resources I want to speak of two points first it is well known that most of the excellent graduates are females the second fact yes yes go ahead please yes I know you support me the second point is to have mixed schools I believe that some people consider this to be secondary I am not for classifying schools between male schools and female schools with all due respect to all schools of thought that uphold this we conducted a study in Palestine to see the impact of mixed schools we found out that males perform better 60% when they are in mixed schools and I know that the public knows so you all want to join Palestinian schools we welcome you however the performance of females goes down 20% in this case just to complete a picture this means devoting attention and respect for women should start at school on every mother's day we say this is the mother who nurtured me and she stayed up long nights and we praise the mother and then we forget the other side of the coin she gave birth to this man and then she raised him it's a comprehensive process so it is time to go beyond speaking about the quotas women are present in the very presence and life of men and the quota should only be to say that there should be a place but society should be able to put the right place in the same position away from any distinction or discrimination now the best figures say that women are somewhere between 16 to 20% in the labour market and this is a very low percentage women are also absent from the political scene where decision making takes place I do not want to count how many prime ministers in the Arab world are women or how many parliamentarians it is most important to have women take up their part when we speak of a revolution it should address all the concepts of traditional life that we are used to and unfortunately in our Arab world we have seen disasters there should be a quota for women until we reach a stage where women are truly a main player at the team level we still have a long way to go in our culture and in our society in some Arab countries and we have to have until that point we need a quota we have teamwork no need for the question should the minister of labour also be the minister of education because this would also entrench patriarchal society one person holds all we should go back to the roots this goes back to the fact that there is a big gap between education and the requirements of the labour market now this might address a systematic issue of all problems the problem is unemployment and not investing in the human resource and creative person gets lost in this whole process and nobody pays attention to his creativity and it all turns into a negative energy we are going to speak about entrepreneurship but before that miss Raida wanted to make a comment we want to hear your voice Raida درغم from Al Hayat newspaper Beirut Institute minister I will protest about the quota because this undermines the ability of women to catch up with society as should be if we are told that the quota is not up to our level this is a deception no I did not say that but in my mouth I said that the quota in these days is imposed just to reserve a place but it is important for society to rise up to a level where we go beyond this and that we focus on qualifications I said I believe that in many cases women supersede and they achieve better than men and they deserve this we should support the idea of quota in all Arab countries women are in need of find filling their place and this quota should only be for a transitory period and not permanently I would like to comment on the quota in Morocco we call we have been calling for a quota since the 70's and from that period till today hasn't brought us to anything over 30% and currently women constitute for 50% of society but I agree with the quota if it provides for 50% and then we would say that we are reserving the right share for women and then in this context we would choose or select the more qualified the more achieving women and the more creative women but the quota as we are used to it at 20% or 25% that we find not sufficient the quota should be 50% very briefly because we have to take a break I want to comment on the quota for women in my opinion it is very important and if you allow me your excellency I will differ with you in our company we look on the long term and we look for the areas where women specialize and it is good to see women entering into fields that were totally monopolized by men in the past in our decision making we discuss should we take more women engineers or women in other areas if we do not do this then we will not be able to increase the percentage of women thank you we will take a short break and then we return to discuss entrepreneurship and the fourth industrial revolution now this is it this is it now enter after the clip yes now now we can start can we start welcome welcome you once again to this seminar at the world economic forum at the Dead Sea on the talent revolution certainly when we speak of job creation and encouraging talents we should create an environment of work for entrepreneurship we have talked to محمد عصفور who have established a success story in entrepreneurship in the Arab world as they faced and let us listen to them he is a hunter he is a hunter he is a strength he is the most important he is the most important he is the most important he is the most important in business and in the audience I don't understand what is the most outstanding you're wearing مصاري المستثمرين احنا صراحة محزوظين بالمستثمرين لأنهم بتعاملوا مع الشركة كأنها شركتهم ومستعديني يشتغلوا معنا حتى نحقق النجعة السوق نفسه والصناعة نفسه عام تتطور عام تتغير بشكل كتير بسرعة يعني عام ينكون احنا ب.. مام اللحق انه توماستر اشي بروح بتغير كمبليتلي وبعدين بقلب لا اشي تاني انا سوف كن صريح بهذا جو انا اصعب اشي اندي صراحة التوتر انهلكت اندباحت اسمع انكسيوم على بسكوبان على مهدي اللفل of stress اللي عام من واجهه صراحة كتير كبير لما يكون مستعد انه يغامر بكل اشي ويخوض التجربة بكون جاهز لريادة العمار اذا قررت ابنتك او ابنتك ترك الجامعة لتأسيس عمل خاص بها اتسمح لها بذلك يا باي سؤال محرج انا بدعمهم لانو انا واب لارا سوف كن صريح انا ضدن نظام التعليم المجتمعات العربية انا بولم احكو مع امكو انا بدخل انا ما بدخل اهو هالحكي هذا مراه يجب مرتي اكيد يعني او ادبيتها داما موجودة اوود شالنجدم او ادبيتها داما انا من الناس اللي رفت احكي قلت لهم ديش كم الجامعة ومرضيو وكتير انا مبسوطة هم ما خلوني اتركي جامعة اذا واضح هنس اسميس احتاج المال احتاج المال احتاج المال فقط 8% احتاج المال يجب الان يجب الان يجب الان اسميس اوه اوه we can compare to sixteen percent 10 20% for richer countries though we have many institutions that support the المقلرة اوه why has not it reached I am glad you have selected the conference because they have mixed up the whole method of thinking the world has changed first we used to in the past نحن نسأل ما يجب علينا to wear our children, today our children choose what smartphones you should carry in your pockets or what computer you should buy, hence we should ask them what future they prefer and if they choose we should not interfere or tell them we know more than you do and you should go and study this or that at the university. سمت time we find some students want to think outside the box or establish SMEs in the Arab world, today a person might think of establishing a company on the internet or making use of technology in one way or the other, as long as the generation of parents are not very close to this development, to these developments they will not be able to contribute positively. سمت time in the past a child who used to love to play football they would say he's wasting his time, today one of the most important sources of money making comes through playing football, our waste time singing today among big money makers are those who are involved in the world of art and singing, hence we should allow space for such talents. سمت time and in our schools curriculum should encourage entrepreneurship and the establishment of entrepreneurial projects and not to think of joining the public sector, most people want or seek a stable job that gives them healthcare and social security, which only the public sector can provide but this sector is saturated and it will not absorb anyone, hence we should encourage our children to go into companies such as خربيش and other such companies, the Arab world today is more accepting of SMEs but not as much as we thought they would be in the past. سمت time have you found problems of financing in the past I stayed here for some six months trying to garner Arab capital but unfortunately there was no suitable culture or environment for investing in the unknown which is science, they are ready to invest in something tangible such as a hotel but to invest in knowledge سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت سمت