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This is Dan and Jordan Burke Welcome to divine intimacy radio. You're radio haven of rest your monastery of the mind Hermitage of the heart monastery of the mind right you want to throw me off with how you I did okay, I Mean we just move forward. Well, we can we lift our way I don't want to waste any time. I know we lift our hearts and minds to heaven to draw on the wisdom of the saints and The teaching of the church to help us to navigate the tumult of this life and today. We're with I have to say One of my favorite guests ever with a movie that is in my top five list of all-time nefarious Carrie Solomon, why don't you introduce Jordan? Carrie Solomon is the writer director and producer of nefarious He's also made gods not dead. Do you believe in unplanned among many others? Welcome back Carrie Thanks for having me again. Yeah, and for folks if you missed if you missed the first The first show you you got to go out to spiritualdirection.com and check it out Carrie is a blast. He's devout on fire Catholic and we I just loved doing this the first show with him and if for some reason this disappears off of YouTube I you know, I guess what's funny? Well trust your radio Here's will know this or our email friends, but head out to rumble. We begin to post on rumble because Some some of these platforms, of course are very up just for speaking the truth Unfriendly to the truth so What I wanted to get to so I had some involvement with Ted Bundy. I work for Dr. James Dobson when Bundy was headed for death row and Dobson was one of the most prominent evangelical figures in the 90s under Ronald Reagan. He was on the pornography commission was very famous and and was part of what was called the moral majority with Billy Graham and in those guys and I was in I worked in the office of the president and the So we've got thousands of letters because Bundy as he is on death row. Of course, he was a Sylvester serial killer He wrote to Dr. Dobson because he he was gonna die. There was no it was nothing It was gonna make the execution go away But he his he had kind of reinvigorated his faith in prison before he was dying. You said doing a Bible study He wanted to help guys and help the world understand how incredibly destructive pornography was But at that time I was Protestant I had converted to Catholic Church. I didn't really understand possession I didn't really understand all this but we met with the district attorney the Prosecuting district attorney and his wife who had befriended Bundy, which is fascinating and When we met with them They she described being in a room with him. He was brilliant Of course, he did his own defense and he was very good at evading the police and you know all that but he He there were times when she would talk with him they would talk with him And he was totally normal and then there were times when the evil was so palpable She had to leave the room now Protestants don't have a theology for this of he's a believer and he it seems totally legit to me But yet he's probably possessed, right? Or he has this grave evil So this come brings me to my point about nefarious my question about nefarious carry Was was it based on facts? Was it a conglomeration of? serial killer cases or was it How did you come up with the the story? Oh, I think we're always Influenced by things that are in real life in you know as we go through Life, there's a thousand a million different things that influence us and they stand the back of our head or whatever And it's how we learn it's how we grow But the bottom line is no we didn't base it on any true life story or anything like that What we based it on was We wanted to do we would always been fascinated with the idea of C. S. Lewis's screw tape letters But it was kind of forcical and it was comedic and kind of you know and you know, I'd looked at Chuck Many years ago, and I said we should do something serious about that and then you know I was a convert in 97 98 so My mom was Protestant my dad was Jewish Which so it you know how I became a Catholic only in the Lord's hands Which was amazing best thing I ever did but so we we we just felt That it was a great thing to do I mean we just and I will tell you that the Lord has had his hand on us when we did unplanned I I went out and I got unplanned about three four five six years before we were gonna make the movie We're all excited and literally in my head the Lord said not yet And I was so bummed out and he made us sit on the bench for like five or six years And then one night Chuck and I were both in the office over a conference table Getting ready to do something. I don't know. Maybe it was God's I don't remember and The Lord said now then both of us heard it in our head and we both looked up and that's where we started on plan What I'm driving at is this is that two years later, you know, we brought it out and then within two years Roe v. Wade was overthrown and so I know that the Lord used on planet that perfect time We were so bummed out When when we got the rights four or five years ahead of time that I was walking around moping because we really wanted to do it and the Lord said to me not yet doesn't mean no it means not yet and I was like oh You actually mean what you say behind the word, you know that kind of thing I know that sounds crazy, but that was what what happened So I believe that the timing on this was what made us do it that the Lord because we wandered here and there And he kept bringing us back to it. So I I just think it's like I would ask your viewers When you walk at your house in the morning, is there something wrong that you feel it in the air Is it everywhere? Is there a doctor? You've never dealt with before is there some kind of evil going on and the answer to that is of course Yes, that's why this movie was made because the Lord has separated the wheat in the chaff and I think he's reaching out He wants to reach out to the chaff still and still call them and he's telling people look you have to stop I am a god of mercy. This is your enemy. This is the enemy of mankind. So that's why basically we did it You know, I I'm sorry good. Yeah, I couldn't agree more I mean, obviously I've been involved in exorcism ministry and I've heard demons myself, but I but I know we know a lot of exorcists. We actually have one on our staff at the Avalon Institute and All of them will attest that cases are up That cases are harder than ever before it's one of the reasons I was motivated to write spiritual warfare and discernment of spirits Was to give people an easy Handbook, you know to understand the everyday Movements of the enemy and how he inspires and you know, you did brilliantly in the movie You one of the most powerful things about it was you the demon Described how he's slowly and I know Jordan you enough Yeses and a few in few enough knows give increasing rights over the victims physical and mental processes, right? From the demons mouth from the demons mouth and I'm sure The I could just see Carl's Martins behind that line your your exorcist Advisor, but so the movie wasn't based on an actual case or anything, but it is based on fact in the sense that It's Authentic to what does possession what can possession look like so authentic to how does one become possessed? Whether whether you really out to do it or not because isn't that was fascinating to you about this character is you get the sense He didn't necessarily want to be possessed, but he ended up possessed which is scare the hell out of everybody who listened to this I mean look this is this is real I mean they they just did a study seven out of ten people in America believe that they have some sort of mental problem four out of those ten Four out of that seven believe it's demonic in some form or fashion if you really if those numbers you're accurate That means we're talking tens hundreds of millions of people having this problem And I believe it's because we're headed towards the end Frank. I believe the devil is frantic. I will give you Yeah, I'm sorry. No, you keep going. Yeah, I'll give you something that will blow your mind Yeah, this is the first time I'm gonna announce it because we kept this silent because there are a lot of people who say oh I'm gonna go do it To give you an idea first of all the reason that this movie is so been attacked and they're trying to Suppress it is we take the devil We pull him out of the darkness and bring him into the light and we show what and he hates that Because he works the best in darkness and in shadows right whispering and doing and people don't really believe him This movie by the time you're done you will believe in the devil But you will believe in god and you realize that the lord is more powerful. However when we did on plan Literally the day the moment the second we Put it out piracy across the internet went crazy. We lost between 10 million and 40 million views Wow, and we said to the lord we got on our knees and we basically said to the lord lord I know this is theft But we forgive them we give it to them for free because I don't want to depend on all these people And in a very unique and weird way You're promoting the gospel. We're You're getting my message out right now the investors aren't too happy, but you know Just go do it right and so we literally don't let them do it On this movie. I want you to know what I've never said this before. We're in week six. Do you know how much uh Piracy has occurred how much Not one Not now wait a second wait a second if you don't understand what I'm talking about Every single movie gets pirated tens hundreds of millions up. There is not one Video online now they say there is but they lie and that way you buy in they get your money But that's not it's not there's not a nefarious online six weeks That shows you two things The devil is scared of this movie and think of the grip he's got on people Just think of the grip that he can and they don't even realize it. They're not stealing the movie Thieves steal And we don't have one What kind of power what kind of grip on mankind do you have When you can say no no one's going to steal this Unbelievable in mathematics anomaly it cannot it cannot occur Yeah, I just love this man. Yeah I love your passion. I love what you're doing with this movie. It's obviously god's working Uh nefarious folks you got to go see it go out to who is nefarious dot com And it's also flashing on your screen if you're watching the live stream make sure you go to rumble dot com Uh just in case this gets pulled spiritual direction. Got dot com page and it's where we're going to begin posting a lot of our content Yeah, and is that what you wanted to know just we're going to break. So we're going to break So we'll be right back with carrie solomon writer producer director of nefarious A movie that I think every catholic should see You shouldn't be afraid of it It will not scare you to death It but it will Light up your brain with some of the most important information you could have at your disposal To understand how people get possessed. So you don't ever end up in that place And to understand how to fight the enemy the truth about the enemy nefarious who is nefarious dot com will be right back Okay, so the next one is 13. Yeah um So we covered that would you be willing to talk about some of that you mentioned in the first show some of the um The spiritual pushback you experienced. Okay, by the way, you're good. It's gonna knock you down Unbelievable. We had an exorcist. We had father martin doing exorcism. Yeah I'll I'll make it quick. But the bottom line is I will tell you If you don't believe in the devil declare war against him and see what happens. Oh, yeah Well, in fact, we we we're very well acquainted because of our work. We we uh, yeah, we actually Uh, this well we're live streams. I don't know. Yeah, you gotta be careful. I might I'll tell you offline Something interesting you might find interesting and you might find actually helpful too Um, okay on your markets that go this is dan and jordan berk. Welcome back to divine intimacy radio We're talking with one of my uh, one of the most fun guests of all time But for all the right reasons carry solomon writer-producer director of nefarious passionate on fire unafraid fearless catholic love this guy You got to see this movie so carry Tell us about so being in deliverance ministry. We understand what retaliation is and in fact we're we've got a Something we're going to be publishing soon that has That helps people understand in deliverance ministry how not to Experience retaliation at least as much as not more than sometimes you sometimes you're gonna get it like I got through Well, you're always gonna get it. Yeah, you're always gonna get it. It's just how severe it is But you guys, uh, it's legendary actually when I first heard about the movie Um, just in from a guy who works here on the site on at the retreat center. He um He has a some family members involved with the movie and he said man You got to you got to pay attention to this nefarious movie. They are getting hammered behind the scenes. They're devout catholics They they uh, they're they're uh, you know, they're being uh attacked and that sort of thing. This thing's real This is gonna be great, you know, so I'm like whatever, you know, because I've just you know, I've seen everything But when I saw the movie, I thought okay. Yeah, I get that So yeah, tell us carry about the uh, some of the kickback and the problems you've had with the movie Well, I would tell your viewers or anyone that's watching listening and so on and so forth We don't believe in the devil declare war against them and see what happens And that this movie does so for starters. I mean, let's not even I mean I could go on for six hours We're doing a making of thing that we'll go over but I will tell you this Let's not even talk about emails that won't be sent or get lost or anything Electrical cell phone that don't work suddenly and you're standing in the middle of new york Whatever, it's just crazy. So we have a priest on set on every movie 24 hours Day seven days a week. We do mass adoration. We do the whole thing. We do confession practically every day And his appendix explodes and he almost dies And takes him out. So first that so then the priest is no longer on set, right? The uh, we have covid hits the crew wipes the movie out Literally we had to stop the movie for five months cost me six hundred thousand dollars And then what happened was we we and chuck was very smart. He took me down to the set. We had to keep the set Up and that's what cost the 600 because if I had torn down the set, I'd never be able to get it all back together We knew that I wouldn't that the movie would never get done. Um, you know, so we had that we had an illegal strike That came out of nowhere a totally biased totally lied Unbelievable, uh, the union just came in basically within 10 minutes called the federal government on us and basically said we were doing Horrific things and stuff like that. I'm like, what? Okay, they were like, you don't want these people to work. You don't want them to make a living. I'm like, I hired them Okay, I mean, so you know, it's went up there We have had we had eight accidents in the first 11 days totaled cars And then but but here's what's interesting All the cars are totaled not one scratch on any person Not one scratch on any person. We had, um We had so many things that went on that were, uh, crazy just relentless So eight car crashes. No one gets hurt. So the devil attacks to destroy But the lord protects us because he told us he would protect us. Okay. And so that's why we go forward in in faith The other day literally less than a week ago my producer He's putting his baby in the back seat of his car And basically the baby's foot gets stuck. So he leans in to put him in the car seat A car hits the door leaning against him at 45 miles an hour of suv ripping the door if he should be dead He's left standing there with the baby his wife and the other baby. They're totally fine other than being scared Okay, so like a torpedo shot at him two days later My marketing guy the head of marketing and also one of our uh producers He basically parks his car goes towards his house a uh person falls asleep and slams into his car taking out his car completely This is a constant the roof to my building in burbank the roof and it's a big building Ripped off and made us have to go find other places and it scattered the team and slowed our marketing effort At the premiere we did a premiere with and we invited father carlos martins. This is going to freak people out Uh, so we're at the premiere. It's a press junket. You know, you're running all the people through Uh, all of a sudden there's noises coming out of the couches And the light in the room is flicking on and off on and off on and off The sound mixture that brings all the sound for the people that don't understand Suddenly dies the cameras get corrupted the discs and again, so I call up father We called father and and come to the room. So he goes to his room. He makes holy water He walks in a room. He says stops and he says I know exactly what this is walks across the room Put says wind it's back to the window five stories up nothing behind him Opens his book starts doing his holy water opens his book starts in in latin Doing an exorcism in place of a place in other words and he starts doing it as he starts doing it Female voice behind his right ear demonic voice Chanting in his ear trying to distract him and break him from doing it He gets in and everything is in latin. It was really cool. And so what happens is He gets it apart in the exorcism And you tell me how cool this is when he gets to the pot where it says behold the mighty and terrible name of jesus christ The noise the chanting behind his ear gone the lights stop flickering the voices and stuff in the couch gone Everything else works He puts his stuff away like in other words just another day at the office walks out and we go downstairs and he starts blessing the theaters I this is crazy stuff But but what's amazing to me is that the lord protects every single person that works for him Every person that loves him nothing can occur Nothing can occur unless the lord allows it. So he allows the devil to do his petty tricks and to destroy things But not the people Yeah, I think that's really important It's really important. So we don't you know, some some catholics when we start talking about this Uh, and and we don't we're not obsessed with it. We're obsessed with jesus and his church But there's a real battle and real war going on and if and and there was a key in the movie There's a line in the movie that represents the wrong kind of thinking about this And I I thought it was in our notes, but I couldn't find it where he talks about You're losing you're already losing What's the line the so the therapist? comes back in after a pretty um intense moment And uh nefarious says to him. Are you ready for round two? And the therapist james says I didn't know this was a fight and nefarious looks at him and says that's why you're losing I I such a brilliant line. I have to tell you So what does that represent? And this is the important thing about this folks Is if you think you can avoid the fight, you're already losing right if you're not in the fight You're already losing you cannot be a wuss and be a christian You just cannot be so if you're afraid to go to this movie because oh Maybe I'll attract the enemy the enemy already knows who you are and where you are Happy to hand you remote and new batteries for your remote and another bag of chips Until he kicks your butt into hell before you die Because you're not fighting because you're not strong So don't be afraid of going to a movie like this You you need to you need to learn about spirit to warfare in any way You really ought to buy spirit to warfare and discernment of spirits And I I don't I donate my royalties. I don't do this to make money So i'm not promoting the book to uh to make money I'm promoting it to help you to win the battle spiritual warfare and discernment of spirits The second one I wrote is devil in the castle tricevavila spiritual warfare and the progress of the soul But every time you advance the kingdom of god, you're also crushing the kingdom of satan And if you're not crushing the kingdom of satan, you're not advancing the kingdom of god, right? And I want to give you two I had a feeling we're going to go this way. So I had my Catechism of the council Trent ready. There's two lines that were perfectly perfectly Or there's two sections in here short sections that were perfectly Shown in the movie and that also will drive home the point that you just said So this is from the catechism of the council of Trent It's called the audacity of demons from all this we may understand that the power of these enemies is great Their courage undaunted their hatred for us enormous and unmeasured That they also wage against us a perpetual war so that with them there can be no peace and no truce There are many who because they do not feel the assaults of the demons against them imagine that the whole matter is fictitious Nor is it surprising that such persons are not attacked by demons to whom they have voluntarily surrendered themselves Hmm, that's wow council of Trent awesome And that's driven home in a huge way. So I I got another I got another question because I I I love the the name of the psychiatrist. Was that on purpose the second psychiatrist? um You can you can say please you can Okay, good enough If you after spending an hour with me All right Moving on Uh, and I think we've already covered this but uh, I'll just ask you carry Should the average person be concerned about whether and whether the devil is real or not You know gosh I mean, I think I mean, this is uh something that I'm passionate about so Chuck is passionate about I think every christian, uh, every catholic needs to be passionate about look. We are in a battle Yeah, we've we seed our authority to the dark side They don't go away. If you just look politically in our country The other side has not decided to stop attacking They're going for the gold and they will not stop lying Cheating increases doing foul things increases the demonic does not the council of Trent phrase. He just read Is exactly why we made the movie. It's exactly this is a perpetual battle We can not as catholics just sit back. They will find you. They will come for you. They already know where you are Yeah, and they know where you are. They're demonic They they've been watching you from the moment of your birth to destroy you But the thing is that in christianity for some reason the problem is in america We have a good life and in a good part of the world has a good life not all of it But the bottom line is that we build these christian ghettos thinking that we'll lock out Everything will oh those people speak bad words. So we won't associate with them That is the exact opposite of what jesus says We should be attacking You have to understand the authority of god has been given to us to rebuke the darkness We by just standing in a room of darkness give off light We're more powerful than the enemy and people have got to understand We've got to get fired up about our faith. We've got to get fired up about our god He's calling us to carry our cross. He's calling us to go forward and battle on with christian soldiers I want to let you go on for like an hour, but we don't have it. Tell people how they can support you in the movie Uh go to the movie. I mean that would You know between you know, it's rather than watching something horrific on tv that was corrupting your soul Uh, it would be nice if you supported the movie because the bottom line I know people think that you know, we go in a room and click our fingers and this magically appears It doesn't work that way And so, you know, you got to support her go to fandango go to the movie theater And if you don't catch it there, it will be on various places like apple and amazon who are not our friends By the way and and do bad, you know brutal brutal things to the movie and you don't look we're fighting suppression Yeah, this is this is a serious issue. There is a reason the devil is trying to destroy this movie Keep going. Yeah. Yeah, I mean so Folks and and I'd like just to talk to our editor if there's a way I want to uh If you can cut out anything in the earlier show or anything to add this back in but I want to say to everyone Uh for so we get it on terrestrial radio. I want to say to everyone Get the trailer drop it on your facebook page. Oh, yeah Drop it into any of your social media. Drop it into put it in your email list We're gonna do everything we can To promote this movie And to to help get the word out. It's that important With that carry. Thank you so much for joining us and for all your good work. Please thank your team For us. Love you. Love the work you're doing. We'll be praying for you and doing everything we can to help get the word out Appreciate it guys and uh, appreciate your your viewers and listeners. Uh, also praying and stuff God bless you guys and by the way, you guys are fighting a good fight. I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you Okay, see you. See you Until next time may the god of peace make you perfect in holiness May he preserve you whole and entire spirit soul and body you're approachable at the coming of our lord Jesus christ amen You