 Thank you, you know right from the outset. I don't like this slide by too late to edit it But it says Examining the power of thought and I'm not sure if we're examining the power of thought here I don't know if we're examining the power of consciousness. I don't know if we're examining the power of intention Attention, I'm not sure what we're examining but but we're gonna have an interesting ride as we go through I'm also not thrilled with the idea of energy healing So I don't like anything about this slide. I don't even like my name. So the the the the the energy I think you call me Fred or something like that. So so the energy healing Implies that we have an energy that we can isolate and I don't know of any energy that's been isolated yet So I'm making this up. I don't know much about healing and I have no idea why you're listening to me I mean I do experiments and sometimes I do my two inches and sometimes I do them at 2,000 miles I get the same results Should is that energy, you know, I mean we got to think about this, but take some of this stuff with certain Rains of salt. I have my book is called the energy cure the publisher said to me This is the this is the cover and we're gonna call it the energy cure I said out they I said I don't think it's energy and they said thanks for your input No, yes First special thanks to everybody here. I mean, this is an amazing staff top to bottom Everybody here has been treated wonderfully and Bravo to all so the Ikliff has some areas of interest that dovetail with mine There I see from the literature and such you're very much interested in the power of human thought And we're gonna look at it quibbling over whether there's a thought involved But we're gonna be looking at some healing experiments, which probably human thoughts in there someplace Ikliff is also interested in connections and I could I could do four or five lectures on the side of our connections I'm pretty interesting data The only thing I'm gonna probably show you here is some EEG data and some functional MRI data Which indicates that in fact humans can connect at a distance and the whole thing will be Surrounding one way or another the idea of human energy my Agenda for the last Too many years has been these and the first is the investigation of the parameters of healing I'm gonna try to avoid saying energy healing. So again, we don't know too much about healing it happens But really what happens? We're not we're not really sure. So for example, if somebody does a hands-on treatment What's the dosage? How much do you need? Does a half hour treatment is that half of an hour treatment? Is it treatment by a human the same each time they do it? What does it take? Does belief matter? Does it matter if the healer believes? Does it matter if the healee believes? Does it matter? Does it matter? Does it matter? I mean so all of these things are all researchable questions and I'm not going to deal with most of them But you want to be thinking about Yeah, healing is going to happen and you're going to see that pretty clearly But what are the conditions under which it happens and how do we increase its efficacy? These are really there we can spend I could give everybody here 10 research assignments And you can spend the rest of your life trying to figure all the stuff out. I'm interested in the physiological correlates of healing So I have brain data And I don't know whether healing is related to the brain So we have a brain bias some of us use them some don't You ever dealt with freshmen But since we have the toys we hook we hook the brains up we take EEG's we do functional MRIs We do all that kind of stuff and so there I have some data on the physiological correlates of healing I don't know that they're the cause of healing I could at least say they're the correlates of healing maybe healing happens and then there's a brain consequence Maybe the state of mind doesn't matter Maybe the state of mind is a consequence of healing Not the cause of healing I'm not making a proposition Nor a preposition. I'm simply trying to suggest that we don't really know But what I'd like you to think about just generally is all of the assumptions that we ordinarily make without really having it nailed down And so I like to keep stuff up in the air and know what I know and be pretty straightforward about the stuff I don't know at the very end of today. I'm going to talk about some possibilities anyway of practical applications Can we bottle it? So healing using these unorthodox techniques Seems to produce pretty remarkable stuff, but can we take the healer out of the equation? Bottle the stuff and turn it into a conventional therapy It's a pretty interesting idea and so far we've got some indication. Yeah, that might be the case Development of or investigation of teaching efficacy I'm gonna kind of duck here and the scientific motherload here would be the last bullet Which is the development of a theoretical model. This would mean we scientifically have some real basis to understand explain Predict and I don't think that's gonna happen in my lifetime So it's a goal, but it's not one that I anticipate Solving this week. I don't have any proprietary information. I don't have another words, you know the secret in my pocket or something like that The both of these are available in the back. It's not a sales pitch. One is a story Another is the actual techniques I use in my experiments So anybody here is free to know what I know Try it yourself Make your own lab test it on people plants animals vegetables minerals play And so I encourage as much as possible People to go out and try the stuff of the I just like to make a comment The image on the right hands-on healing and this is a training course in what's called the energy cure again That came from the publisher, but the techniques that I use are not healing techniques And that that needs to be clear in other words They're really based on a mental imaging technique. I helped to develop It involves extremely rapid mental imaging and I mean it's nobody would believe how fast you can mentally image if you practice a lot Takes a lot of practice to learn my stuff. It's extremely fast mental imaging Some people use this imaging and then apply it to healing some people use this imaging and I Don't know do leadership stuff Some people use this imaging and use it to build those businesses I'm using it to investigate healing. It has widespread use and basically It's a technique of mental imaging which is alleged to get you what you want If one of the things you want is to heal you can use it for healing if one things you want is to Make your business bigger make it bigger if it's again, you can keep going So it says hands-on healing But the hands-on healing technique is one application of this mental imaging the mental imaging can be used for anything today limited time Essentially three questions Can we take inexperienced non-healers not believers and Train them to cure cancer in a lab straightforward question Sometimes I use myself as the healer though. I'm not a healer. Sometimes I use other faculty Sometimes I use student volunteers But I've never used anyone in my experiments who are card-carrying healers I've never used someone who said oh, yeah, I believe that stuff So if I go and I'm scanning for volunteers for my healing experiments What do you think here's the deal and if you say oh, yes, I I believe that I think get away from Believers scare me. I'm not one I'm a skeptic means let's find out I'm not trying to defend a belief Believers come in all stripes. I know this is true. I know this is crap so I've spoken for example to skeptic societies and I come in and I'm going to present some my data and they're all sitting there like this And they're grumbling and they got frowns on their faces and all stuff And I usually start this by just nudging them and I say, you know, I'm the only skeptic in the room And they say no no where the skeptics aside. I say you're not skeptics. You're mindless believers You know everything I haven't yet said is wrong And you're gonna go to the grave trying to defend that I'm wrong even though you have no idea what I'm about to say And I said you all scare the hell out of me Now I can also talk to a group and they go. Oh, yes, that's the most amazing I think get away from me. You shouldn't be believing this stuff does healing happen if it happens it happens If it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen. You don't if you're talking about belief wrong wrong ball game So first question can inexperience non healers be trained to cure cancer in a laboratory straightforward question Is there a relationship between healing? Connection we're gonna look at some data on that and a question is healing related to intention and I could ask a subset is healing related to attention and I'm gonna make a distinction between a kind of a willing psychokinetic effect and simply intention and The bottom line looking ahead will be I don't think we can force our will to make healing happen The way we want it to though we can intend healing to happen But the means by which you get from point a to healing. I Don't control It's not up to what I want. So what I want, you know, it's nice, but it doesn't seem to matter a lot much so let's deal with question one or not I'm gonna deal with nice It's a nice tight model and what you have here is I've done a whole bunch I'm not gonna talk about all of them because I understand I only have Michelle. You said I only have four and a half hours Is that right and no breaks if it's down to four and a half hours So I have up there You'll see you City University of New York and it says to expert that means I've done two formal experiments at City University To its St. Joseph's College one at Arizona three at University you get the idea I've done these experiments in five medical schools eight labs total and one of the reasons I go from lab to lab is I if It works since I don't believe this stuff since it works The lab must be screwy, you know, let's go find a let's go find where I get give me a lab where it doesn't work You know because this this is too much So I've got a bunch of experiments on mammary cancer sarcomas Oncogenic mice I got a racy series on nude mice There's probably not many of you have seen mice clothes, but you know, so so I have nude I have extremely aggressive can't I have in vitro. I keep I keep going so I got a Boat load and again if Michelle will give me more than four and a half hours We'll get into some detail. So let's look at the first just as an example and these are going to be disgusting It's very good that we're not doing well actually you probably don't want to break nobody's gonna want anything after they look at this The only thing that matters here is The last line host survival 14 to 27 days This is a standard animal model if there's a biologist in the room. They know exactly what's up there It's biological gobbledygook and it means strain type source all this kind of stuff This is the most studied animal model ever in anything There are literally thousands of experiments thousands on these mice thousands of published experiments Who knows how many tens of thousands And here's the short version you get a mouse you're gonna see in a second you get a mouse you inject it with cancer 14 days later some will die 15 days some more will die 16 days some more will die No mouse will live past 27 days. It's all and it forms a beautiful normal curve It really does standard deviation three days Plus or minus three days two-thirds of merded Thousand experiments so this is an off-the-shelf if you've been to any oncology lab person They know exactly what this is No mouse here's the bottom line no mouse has ever lived past 27 days So you do whatever you do you give it you give it you give it you try it you radiate it You do and no mouse. So Methuselah is 27 days. I'm gonna show you the progression That'd be the mouse This is a particularly easy model to work with It's all external. It doesn't metastasize. So it just grows bigger and bigger So you're gonna see ugly stuff here. I don't have a pointer that works, but you can see this mouse is down to three legs The tumor is eaten one leg You don't have to be a biologist to see that the fur is not looking good If you could see the eyes the eyes aren't looking good This mouse is not gonna live and so basically what happens is the tumor gets bigger and bigger and bigger The mouse dies to one of two ways the internal the internal organs are crushed and Or it it saps the energy out of the rest of the system. It dies of malnutrition usually a combination It's a really ugly way to go But it's easy to measure You don't need to be drawn blood. You don't need to you don't need to you don't need to so what we do is this I'm gonna show a picture of just we take Amazingly good-looking people a curiosity is we've tested ugly people. I can't heal So that's what I mean, it's a clue, but I'm not sure how to interpret it This I'm only gonna show pictures of me because I protect my by my volunteers So there'll be a couple of pictures of me and here. I'm treating a mouse. I'm going through this imaging technique It may look like I'm meditating. I guarantee you. I'm not meditating. I'm sitting there bored to tears There's nothing more boring than healing. It's God awful and I'm sitting here. I can't tell you what I'm thinking You'd be censored, but I'm sitting there thinking How did my life come to this? I'm sitting there day after day fondling mice, you know, it's it's not a it's not a great place You know, so I don't know how it got there And you do it hour after hour. I mean, you know, it sounds exotic, but Lab work can be extremely tedious. So we do this and we sit there and you can see five cages there a Bunch of things are going on. I have a geomagnetic probe going on. We've got random number generators running in the room We're testing for I mean a lot of stuff. It's going on and it really is God awful. So Here's what happens. This is curious This goes to the question. How should we think about healing and? What is the role of intention and what's the role of attention? I I expected The first time I did this experiment we get a cage of mice We do our mental imaging put our hands down and we they'd be injected the first time we did it We we got to the mice three days after injection three days after injection nothing big has happened all that kind of stuff So what we'll do is we'll go Thinking of it as an analog to radiation And we'd prevent it from growing Now what happened instead is the tumor starts to grow and I said well it didn't work, you know, and it was fun Let's move on I Got talked into do it a couple more days Keeps growing a couple more days a couple more days gets bigger and be a blackened area appears on the tumor And I'm sure this is terrible the tumor then starts to ulcerate And I'm sure these things are dying the thing has failed Let's call it off and say you know it was it was a fun trip, but it worked I still get talked in to go in a couple more days and what happens is The thing ulcerates now you just saw a mouse. It's in really bad shape The eyes are still clear now the coats clear, but I got this ugly thing that you're about to see I Get talked into against my objection The tumor then implodes The mice is the mouse is cured and it's cured for life It's pretty interesting And I'm flopping on the floor not knowing what to do with it so here we go Just a couple of pictures Depends on I don't know how good the angle is here and what we can see. I think the next one is You see the beginning of an ulceration that that doesn't look like it's a good thing. Where do you see the next one? Now look at the coat Look at the coat. Oh, it's fine I didn't carry this mouse because we only have certain amount of time Michelle's only going to give me five hours But if I followed this mouse it would implode and it would live its normal lifespan different kind of cancer sarcomas notice the dosage We give at least twice the lethal dosage So this isn't a casual thing. We're doing and we're doing this in labs that do that been doing this for 20 years This this particular sarcoma is a little bit or this sarcoma is a little bit less aggressive than the mammary cancer and It goes according to very similar kinds of patterns. So you can see it's it's external You can measure it you can weigh it you can do all those things and the mouse dies in a pretty similar way now if we do the This particular sarcoma Gets better in a different way than the mammary cancer One way is that you wake up one day and the tumor like it like it you let the air out of a balloon Second thing that happens, which is pretty interesting is that the mouse mysteriously grows an arrow on its back We can't figure where that comes from cure for cancer might be arrows So in one it just it lets it's like the air came out and another way you can see a similar kind of Evulsoration and this will go to full cure and once it's cured. It's cured for life and by cured for life I mean we can re-inject it for two years with cancer and it laughs it mocks us The mouse is immune to cancer We can do this with people And so I'll just show you a couple of slides though the people complain when you stick them in those little cages And so so this is a six weeks apart MRIs We can do it by thermal imaging. We can do it by blood tests. We can do it by we can do it by we can do it by that Kind of stuff, so you get the plot No mouse has ever had a recurrence They're immune As far as I know no person has ever had a recurrence And so the question among the questions is is there's some immune response being stimulated Which can then be used to perpetuate the cure going forward and can we do traditional immunology to turn this into a conventional therapy That's part of the plot That's too ugly. Here's here's the other analog to this or an extension of that. We can take cells out of a remitting tumor One that's starting to implode and put that into a fully infected mouse no healer no That mouse will be cured and Once a tumor has been treated it will no longer seed forward Meaning you keep the cell line going by taking a tumor you grind it up you have the cells you put it in you keep it another host Another host another host Won't do it anymore. So the the cell line dies The cancer is dead once you've done the treatment That's reasonably interesting Here's an additional observation healing is not linear and this goes to another question How should we think about this healing occurs in sudden bursts and this is true whether you're dealing with animal vegetable or mineral So this is my favorite pictures ever This is an ulceration pretty obvious. It's not as big as the other one But underneath you see day 22 you're gonna see the same animal six days later Six days that's pretty cool Do it again just because it's pretty cool No objections I can tell it's pretty cool and The only reason you can see anything is because the biologist looking for the thing and it's freaking out and flopping on the floor So there is no sign of anything anywhere. You do we do histology at all stages? There's cancer There's cancer says cancer says cancer. There's cancer that it's cured for life. So even in imploding tumors There's viable cancer cells you can't hear raise it up Should I start over? I don't like this first slide So so we get we get these sudden bursts of things that go on The it looks like it's getting worse. It's getting worse and suddenly it changes Suddenly it changes. So it's not this nice little linear path to cure. None of that ever happens and things look It's bumpy. It's up and down. Nothing's happened. Things are getting and then it's gone Which is also pretty interesting now To tie some of the stuff to Dean's earlier Presentation he was talking about random number generators. We've tried doing this. Let's say this is a random number generator I'm pretty sure it's not but let this is a random number generator And we do the the mental imaging and the healing technique to the random number generator nothing happens So we're treating it like it's a client, you know, or it's sick or something like that. Nothing happens If we put the random number generator in a room and we treat mice in the room That it goes wild if the mice are cured it no longer goes wild That's pretty interesting These are some geomagnetic probes that are in the room and in the hallways and around the campus and all over the place And we get very anomalous waves I'm not going to go into the detail but we get very anomalous waves and I'd be happy to give you details or Academic papers the kind of stuff nobody reads And so we we we get these anomalous waves we get these anomalous waves sudden sudden and then a last row and then they're gone and they happen in all the mice the mouse room simultaneously Once the mice are cured doesn't happen anymore So if there's a need being expressed in the room It happens Other observations is very quickly if you put your hands out spin the cage mice don't like that But you spin the cage you put your hands out as long as they have cancer. They'll move to your left hand As soon as they're cured, they don't have anything to do with you makes no difference how the cage is aligned These are interesting observations So we go to as I go through this another question of My three questions is Connection related to healing I'm going to show you some EEG stuff again. This is with the same mental imaging techniques And I'm going to show you some bonding with human subjects once again. We get really good-looking people and We do ugly things to them. So in this particular case we a bunch of pairs, but you have a bunch of Leads a Bunch of leads on someone else. We're sampling every 500th of a second and that other person is someplace else We do the techniques I'm doing now Other people do this too. I'm doing the techniques. I'm doing this rapid mental imaging just as an aside I'm doing it right now It doesn't attract it anyway from what I do and so I'm sitting there I'm doing the the techniques and then I think of the other person in another room In another part of the building. So let's say Dean's over someplace else Here's what happens Two things happen one immediately our hearts go into synchronization This is old news. We never even published this. It's old news So you got heart math and they do this stuff pretty routinely and what seems to happen and this is just a qualitative observation It's something along these lines the person doing the imaging has the dominant heart And so the person in the other room Who's just hanging out not doing anything consciously just hanging out their heart goes into then They connect and now they beat together and they'll beat together as long as you're doing this The brain of the person doing the mental imaging Don't take this too literally Goes to the other person and they kind of go into a resonance and the brains go into a phase lock That's pretty interesting too again has nothing to do with belief The person who's and you get very anomalous readings and we can again technical ease on other stuff We should do that offline But it you get a signal that people don't see and you get the signal that people don't see and you get them in both brains simultaneously This is pretty interesting. So let's go to Healing and intention and I'm phrasing it here is healing different from PK psychokinesis Dean earlier talked of Wonderful studies that were done at the Princeton Pear lab Just as the one probably doing the most where the the operator sits there and with intention Either makes the bouncing balls move to one side of the other some deviation from chance Takes a random number generator of one sort or another using various forms of random number generation And and they will it if you will or they try to make the Deviations so you had a normal distribution and it becomes slightly skewed Statistically see actually it doesn't become slightly see if there's a mean shift. Yeah, it's not sorry So it there's a mean a statistically significant mean shift that's Willing in other words my task is to make the Distribution go that way or my task is to make the distribution go that way I am imposing my will on some random process in The case of healing as I mentioned I initially thought I can impose my will on this process so Powerful me With my intention as an analog to making the random number generators come a different I'm going to prevent the cancer from growing. Well tough. It grows. We've never been able to do it follows its own rules It's not us imposing a system on nature In the case of the random number generator a physical system in the case of cancer a Biological system, but it doesn't follow the same pattern So if it were doing what I wanted it to do I would get mice Prevent the cancer from growing life is good if the cancer grew I take a mouse with cancer Impose my will it would go through what I wanted to do that never happens never So the tumors develop it does its own shtick so consider this in the problem of how should we think of all this is Healing a response to need but isn't a response to this is what I am imposing on nature So I'm going to show you another experiment Healing cell medium now. They are moving now from in vivo stuff bodies living stuff to in vitro stuff cells in a dish Not really, but cells in a dish the cells in a dish in vitro Have to be given nutrients and stuff in order to stay alive So what happens if you treat the medium? So now the patient is a bottle of glop History bottles a glop standard off the shelf stuff. This is use Anybody here who's ever done cell culture stuff, you know exactly what you're looking at So you're treating the cell medium now I'll let you think about this for a second. So now I've got I don't know how to phrase it charged cell medium treated cell medium We did something to the cell medium and now in that cell medium. I grow cancer What should happen? So you're not sure isn't that neat? That's why that's why research is so much fun Because you get to test your assumptions and you find out you're almost always wrong. I'm almost always wrong. Please stop listening to me If I make a proposition Bet the ranch against it. So we're treating the medium and then we dump the cancer in Slightly more involved in that but you're treating the medium. You dump the cancer in. How should the cancer respond? This is and the reason I'm just letting this hang out there is because I want you to feel confused I'm not interested in your comfort What should happen? Well, you can see that it depends on how you think of healing If healing is a psychokinetic effect, I can fix the cancer. I can prevent it from growing I can I'm a powerful guy And so I do all that kind of stuff and it bends to my will but now I've just treated the medium So it's got whatever X is in the medium Interesting question. Now we dump the cancer cells in What does it mean to have cancer in a treated medium? now a lot of people have a bias about cancer and I'm harping on this because this is one of the few hypotheses I ever got right again, please don't listen to me. I predicted that If it's not a psychokinetic effect and we've got juiced up medium and we put cancer cells in there And if healing is a response to need What should happen? It should thrive We're healing cancer What does cancer like to do? Well, it likes to reproduce What if you give it juiced up medium wouldn't that help it now look at this I'm not talking subtle stuff here. I'm talking minimum because it depends that we a 600% increase in cancer growth That's not we don't need to do a bunch of statistics on that 600% increase in the growth of cancer now my next prediction which I haven't done yet And I'm probably wrong is I want to treat the medium Get some supercharged cancer and put that supercharged cancer into a mouse my prediction It'll implode As I suspect that healing is a response to need and we'll go to the higher order need If it's just cancer cancer has no need other than to reproduce If it's cancer in a in a body that body has a need to get rid of the cancer if we're sending the charge Up and down the food chain Who's using it what depends what the need is Cancer in a dish. Oh boy. I got thank you notes from it Cancer in a mouse that's supercharged cancer should have more energy in the system. It should implode faster speculation Tentative hasn't been done yet Functional MRI. This is pretty interesting too. So functional MRIs Here's one of the ones I was wrong on we go into a functional MRI measures blood flow in the brain oxygenation per Leader per per volume per time and it it works in a contrast mode. You got to have an on you got to have it off So you've all seen pictures of brains and it looks like parts are lit up You know so the the the right parietal lobe is lit up and you go and people mistakenly say oh look that part is now Working, you know as if it's not otherwise. It's always working and you get little shifts and all this kind of stuff and it's EEGs are actually I think more powerful and more functional MRIs But we do on off. So my question was can healing toggle in which case we could take it in MRI and do some experiments Could healing toggle now my guess again? I'm almost always wrong is that it would not be able to toggle in other words the person using the techniques is going to be prompted in an MRI and say on and then you're supposed Do the techniques and then they would say off and then you're supposed to stop and then on and then off I didn't think people were like light switches, you know you turn them on you turn them off you turn them on turn off, so I said yeah, let's do the experiment my prediction is no it won't work egg on my face This is a control run, but we get pretty clear up and down You can see look at the the little graph going up and down think of it now again We don't have time to go into the technical ease. I'd be happy to do it offline on Off on off on off on it toggles. It's the damnedest thing How do people toggle? So I report toggling so we keep putting people in there do the technique stop doing it do it stop doing anybody can Do this it toggles on and off? I'm not sure how to think about that So we once we knew it could toggle then we could do a really interesting experiment double blind Person lies in an enclosed MRI With their hand sticking out Their task is to lie in an MRI with their hand sticking out pretty simple to do What do you do lie down? Show your hand do whatever you want to do not asking you to heal not asking you to do mental imaging Not asking you to do anything at all just lie there with your hand sticking out We have a bunch of envelopes and The bunch of envelopes have been gotten from a veterinarian Some of the envelopes or sham envelopes. There's nothing in them some of the envelopes have like one hair and a little picture of a cancerous animal 600 miles away gotten from a vet and Some of the animals are horses some of the animals are dogs you got cats We had I think we had some sheep we had some and so we had only all these Some of the cancer some of the animals had cancer some didn't and they're all in this thing and it's blind So the person's lying in there They're not told to do anything at all just lying in MRI and some guy in the experiment has a stack of envelopes one And then it's prompted put hat drop Take out put the next envelope drop Take off drop take off drop take off This is gonna sound bizarre 100% the brain turns on exactly like that When the envelope had a need It did not turn on when the envelope didn't have a need No conscious awareness at all the person lying in the MRI is lying in the MRI It's an ugly noisy environment. It just goes Lying clang and all this kind of stuff the brain turns on in the same way as if you deliberately did it as Is it possible? Healing is an autonomic response to need Now in my experiments, we've had enough people do this so we have people who are extremely sensitive Some people who are bricks all can heal The extremely sensitive people when they put their hands around a cage of mice go I can feel it Something's happening and they get all a tingle and this that and the other thing and the bricks over here are going What and then they have connection envy, you know And so so the people over there are getting all excited because of this feeling into this and that and the bricks are just sitting there going what Doesn't make any difference in terms of healing efficiency Whether you feel a connection or not healing happens Well, you know what you're doing not healing happens Healing might in fact be an autonomic response to need and the subjective sense of connection may or may not be Experienced reasonably interesting So cautious summary in the interest of time can non healers be trained It's not an interesting question anymore. Is there a relationship between healing and connection? Probably, but the connection might be a connection. It's not necessarily conscious And what are the person subjectively experiences that are not is I'm not sure how to say this right optional It doesn't seem to matter in terms of efficacy is healing related to intention It's not a psychokinetic effect in the sense of here I am willing the random number generator to go this way Willing the random number generator to go this way I can wheel my brains out Nothing's gonna have it doesn't make any difference the mice go through the pattern that the mice go through and it depends on the cancer There's all sorts of other things that we don't have time to do because Michelle's only gonna give me six hours It doesn't seem to be a psychokinetic effect the imaging technique has as an image that the thing is already done and So yes, there is an intention obviously there is intention you're putting your hands around a cage You know for a certain length of time every day Until following the experimental protocol, but you do not seem to will the process You clearly intend to get to the end where the mice are cured But you don't seem to be able to volitionally dictate the process by which you get from point A to point B so the question is Can we capture it and essentially the question is can we reverse engineer it? So here we have a cure. It's a cure. It's not a remission here We have a cure you can take cells out and put it over there and that'll be a cure. How many generations can you cure? Can we turn this into a conventional therapy? I think is a is a worthwhile question. Basically, can we bottle it and? Bottling we're using metaphorically So could it would it be a vaccine would it be a bottle would it be I don't know It's probably it's beyond my P-brain ability to envision how this is going to come But can we bottle it? I think it'd be fun to bottle it Now the plan I have just to let you know If I can bottle it I Want to essentially just for fun because I'm a nasty destructive person Give it away wouldn't that be fun folks. Here's the cure yours And I do that only for destructive reasons. I Don't like the industry and so my initial targets cancer But we're also getting and because I I've taught some workshops in how to do this and people are doing interesting things Among I mean there's a lot of stuff because Michelle will only give me seven hours is is that Some of the things work with this technique some of the things don't work with it and there's some things that Don't seem to have an effect at all. We try this clinically some of the stuff We go usually from clinical experience and then take it into the lab Among the things we don't seem to have any effect on at all and I mean for all practical purposes nothing Parkinson's Nobody who's learned these techniques and you know you can happen for yourself Nobody who learns these techniques has to date been able to make an impact on Parkinson's so someone who's got a shake I Mean you get a very minor reduction for a very short term in some of the symptoms, but it's absolutely not impressive And I would say by any reasonable assertion. It's a failure. So some things don't respond Some things respond benign growths for the most part don't respond malignant growths respond More than that the more aggressive the malignancy the easier it is to fix Because I think the energy comes from the system. I Don't think it's energy So if the system has high energy and it's coming at you like a freight train you get a treatment and it leaves like a freight train Something that limps in limps out So you're looking for how fast does it leave depends how fast it comes back. It's almost like paying it playing the tape backward Parkinson's nothing. I mean nothing, but now a bunch of people I've never tried this But I got people from various places in the States independently reporting and this is kind of cool Alzheimer's and they're talking about immediate dramatic Reversal of Alzheimer's I haven't tried it because I like the final rodents But they're talking about doing this on people and they're going oh, yeah, I did that I did that I did that I did that and I'm looking at these practice groups that I'm thinking there. Of course. I'm a skeptic. I'm going really you can Alzheimer's And everybody's reporting you can do Alzheimer's maybe we can reverse engineer something like that We've done if Alzheimer's is an inflammation problem. I've got a whole series of inflammation in vitro studies going on now at Brown they're very Very encouraging We'll see so we're looking to Turn something on orthodox that came from a confused mixture of intention attention thought Consciousness something it seems to take on a life of its own that we're just starting to understand and see if we can make this conventional Let's take the gift. That's just sitting in front of us and I'm trying to raise the labs and such to Put the cure up So I leave you with this probably violation of copyright and I thank you for your kind attention