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It's also 50% off now if you want to get those programs because you're smart or you just want to learn more go to maps fitness products calm Just remember to use the code April special with no space for the discount. All right. Enjoy the podcast Hearing yourself. Okay, Adam. Oh, yeah Retired or nice and loud now. No, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm just bored with you I started the new diet last night. You started the newt. Oh, you're doing a carnival. No, I'm not No, I'm not I'm doing my own thing matter of fact. I'm gonna write a book afterwards. What's good. What's good? I don't know war. That's right. It's like Adam Navar It's a bit of a stretch. It's I first of all, there's no way I could do the carnival I like I like started thinking about Mike. Yeah, you don't have the discipline. Yeah, you're right Remember that one time when we fast only the most disciplined motherfucker of the group here No, actually, it's true. We all did along bring it up You give up first. Yeah, I did I did I think it was that you went like four But the main reason for that was I was already in fantastic shape and I didn't want to lose Anyway, that's a great excuse, you know, and you guys had a lot of flub still to go I figured like they could use three days Like it's flubber like it bounces Blubber and fluffy at the same time. Yeah, it's not even firm blubber. No, so I'm gonna do fine I'm gonna do like Elimination diet carnivore s whatever the fuck I feel like thing so nothing you're gonna do nothing Basically, no, no, no, okay. It looks very carnivore s. Okay. Give us the details break it down. What's the structure? ground beef and rice Ground beef and rice. Yeah, that's it. That's the that's primarily it I mean, I can have ribeye and tri-tip so meat and rice Yeah, rice is gonna be the one carb that I allow myself to have now I'm gonna have so that you're gonna eat like I do basically probably Yeah Look a lot better when I'm done. I mean he's got you there Hold on a second. Hold on a second. So it's gonna be red meat and rice and then that's it and that's gonna be your base Yeah, yeah, what if it's the rice dude? What if it's the grain? Well, so here's and the nuts a great And that's a good question. I'll probably end up having maybe maybe depends on how how bored I get of eating that way Some berries like we talked about I only need some rapini, right? You do you do rapini I don't I don't think that I don't think it's rice that's Affecting me. I don't think that's triggering my auto. I know sad you would be if it was a Little bit. I mean I could switch over to yams or sweet potato. Just fine. I got no problem with that. Yeah Yeah, you would be okay never eating rice again. I Mean, I guess if it cleared up my sorrises completely Yeah, so that's kind of so that's the mission here, right? It's like I'm not Trying to follow somebody's protocol. I'm doing a elimination type of diet I'm choosing to use a carnivore-esque type of protocol and really it is like there I'm gonna eliminate a lot of things that I eat a lot, you know, I eat a lot of vegetables I eat a lot of avocado. I eat a lot of bell peppers and tomatoes and things like that So I'm trying to eliminate a lot of those things that potentially could be it Obviously no sugars and refined carbohydrates things like that are okay, and yeah, that's not hard for me. This can be fun Yeah, you know what Justin? So we're gonna do we're gonna load this test it. Let's test this guy Well, it's only going for 30 days. I can do anything for 30 days. We'll sprinkle sugar in his water I tell you what though, I mean I started it yesterday I had I had you know shishimi and rice and then for lunch and then I went to also fish too Yeah, any any meat any animal meat. Yeah, any animal meat But I imagine that I'm gonna have to do a lot of ground beef and red meat because I'm not getting very much anywhere I'm not getting enough nutrients everywhere else So, you know, I think the the bulk of it your skin does look nicer today. Stop. That's what that's cuz it's a caldera Dude, that's what that. Oh, really? Yeah, you see someone making a little bit of a sheen. Yeah It gives me a little bit of a sheen. Oh, I mean it was like he dumps it on his face Andrew Andrew that is like two drops Andrew focus on the face right now in the head. Look at that I mean, it's like look at look at it's being it makes the sounds too shiny in my face. Yes easy It's very clean very nice fairy. Did you dye your beard you fuck her? No, really? I did not right Vic looking at this in here today Yeah, no, she didn't know she asked me though. Tell the truth. She asked me is he dying anything? No, nothing. See and she asked me she goes Do you do you want to color that and I said, what do you think it looks? She didn't ask me that no I say is younger than I said, how do you think it looks and she says well You're by far the most handsome out of the three guys, so I wouldn't change anything about me the same thing Are you lying to everybody? Hey, she didn't mean to offer to dye my beard. Yeah, she's like, no She told me she's like there's a lot of work with Sal. She's like it's a silver really works for you Yeah, I don't know how to take that. I have to raise your prices. It's a lot of dye Do is be here Anyway, hey, how fun is that with what do you call him funny Mike? Yeah, I call him funny Mike Yeah, so so people don't know this we got a guy coming in and he's an improv instructor. Yeah, and Justin experienced this already. Yeah, he did right just I've wanted this for you guys Justin took improv classes a while ago and all of us noticed He just how much better he was on the podcast. Yeah, he went from really bad. It's like not so bad He's now terrible No, but but this have to try you guys, okay So the goal is this guy comes in he has us do these improv exercises which are weird Yeah, but the goal is to Increase to get our flow to even more connection right like I want to think you know what you're thinking see what we're gonna say Exactly. Did you see that? It's a lot of fun though, right? Yeah, I think it's interesting I think it would be really hard to do that in front of a crowd though Isn't that what you do in the at some point? Yeah at some point and it kind of builds up to that So the hard part for me was when they would do monologues and things and they kind of put you on the spot You have to like go off on something for at least a minute a full minute and then to five minutes And I know you're just like oh, I love this because I can just keep talking forever like for me That was a bit of a struggle. Yeah, today's exercise. You're gonna be talking a lot. Yeah, I'm like, oh my god Raise my hand. I don't know I must say I'll do that one. Yeah, but I enjoy it. I think it's good It's definitely challenging But I hope it makes this better the people and the people watching will know Yeah, yeah, we'll see Can the audience see this big-ass banner we have in here Doug? I don't know. Not really This thing wasn't already about Sal enough now. We got a big-ass banner to remind everybody Everybody Is the champion showing the banner right now and So you guys can see what looks like it's just the book stuff You know what the goal is to have that behind me important when I'm doing video Intro, I'm surprised you didn't use a accordion when you're doing my music. Oh, that would have been damn I missed opportunity you missed out on that. Yeah, so that's all right. It's not bad It is a little loud. Now you start your branding you start your official tour this week. Is that right? Yeah, Thursday. I go to LA. I'm gonna do Max Lugaviers podcast good friend of mine. Love Max everybody knows max Jen Cullen She's gonna do her podcast and I'm trying to see if I can get Aaron Alexander to you at the same time before I come back So cool. I get to talk about my favorite subject. Yeah. Yeah, resistance Dude, did you guys feel did you guys feel the little mini earthquake we had over the weekend? Oh, yeah It was like a three point nine or three points something. Yeah. What was that? Over the weekend feel that no what day? Yeah. Was it Saturday night or Saturday? We were together Saturday night Yeah, it was like when I got home. I think it was Saturday night. Oh, really? Yeah. Do you know when it was? I think it was Saturday night. So here's a weird thing. I didn't feel it, but Jessica did she was upstairs I was downstairs and then she's like, oh my god. She called me. Oh, I fell. I mean, I didn't feel anything I mean, it was significant. It definitely kind of shook the house and I heard it and everything so Speaking of earthquakes, did you guys hear about this gender reveal party? I got to find out where it was that caused an earthquake. Okay, so I I saw that the headline and the title for that But that sounds like how does that happen? No, that's like clickbait to me. No. Yeah. No, it's real. It's absolutely real I'm pulling it up right now. I it was on a science How big of an explosion do you need to create to have an earthquake follow that watch so revealing? Okay, so let me tell you what happened, right? I'm gonna read so residents in a number of towns in New Hampshire reported a mysterious earthquake At around 7 p.m. On April 20th shaking homes and cracking Foundations so what they did is gonna tell us what they did here. Everybody's like, we heard this huge blast. I guess they used explosives To show like the the gender of the babies seriously Can we stop with these things? When did this start because do you know that other gender reveal party that like they Force fire the force fire the entire like this is up in like northern California I think so listen to this right so they used tannerite you guys know what tannerite is no What is that it goes boom-boom and they used it in a quarry because I thought it would be safe and A bunch of calls came in afterwards. They're like what the hell's going on here? There's an earthquake. I mean how many explosives are you so they went down to a quarry to do a gender reveal party Yeah, and imagine the explosion that they had to do for people to feel in their homes and crack foundations That's what I'm saying. This is this is just like you you think you're way too important, dude Yeah, like our kid is gonna be a boy or girl. Let's blow some shit up and show everybody Nobody cares. You know that these parties stop it these didn't exist when my kids were younger just like 15 years ago No, they didn't have gender reveal party. We were busy doing shit Like I was avoiding a lot of like kid parties. I know could you believe that? Did you watch the UFC fight this weekend? No, dude, but I did see the clip of maybe one of the best cards in And I was so mad I left by the way. I went to go see Adam, you know, it's house We went to dinner and you guys had a moment with us. It was nice. It was actually refreshing a lot less talking But yeah, it was great. I mean we I was there for the first one with You know where what's his name got his his shin just that's the one I saw broken half So that's this either the second or third time I've seen that UFC where the guy goes to throw a kick it's checked It was Anderson Silva that it did happen to And if Flops and it happened with against wide man wide man. Yeah. Yeah, yes Wait, so this time wide man goes and he's just doing like he's just doing a leg kick And he's he's swinging his leg around hits Connects and then you just see his leg immediately break and flop kind of over the back and then it isn't even realize it Yeah, yeah, it goes to stand on it. He's got no support boom false. It was heartbreaking, yeah, so the way that it was explained to me, so I'm not a Muay Thai expert I'm not a striking expert a little bit of boxing, but it's nothing and I somebody explained to me. No, there's no belts in boxing That was in the Brazilian. That's why I avoided it. Yeah, I'm all about the belts Yeah, so anyway, the the the way always playing to me is because the way that the the tibia is yeah If you hit it at the because it's kind of a long bone So if you take out a tibia, it's not perfectly round, right? It's kind of like shaped kind of like a disc like it's long, right? Yeah If you hit it on that end, it's very strong if you hit it kind of on the side It's much easier to break. So someone told me that is the result of a misplaced Kick because there's so much strength in the tibia at a particular angle Or is it also like an Unreported previous injury like you know from training that was my speculations. Yeah, but see I'm thinking like you would have to have a hairline fracture you would exactly but a fracture there you would you'd feel and you probably wouldn't be able to fight Right, I don't know. Yeah. It was just so so freakish how that all went down It was a very first exchange, you know, he's just and then boom Oh, man, that set the stage and then I guess the rest of the fights. I didn't even get to see him Later, they're all epic dude. Yeah rose rose fought for the belt So she was the first that was like one of the most inspiring fights, you know Which and she was a major underdog going into it. I bet my brother that I thought she lost her previous fight Yeah, she had she lost she lost the belt She had the belt before and then the girl that's got it right now. I forget her name, but she's badass She kicked her knock her out. Yeah Wayley has landed several of those inside Yeah, straight to her chin put her to sleep and then Usman man that guy just Joe did you see the post that Joe Rogan wrote about her? Oh, yeah, Joe wrote wrote him. Excuse me wrote about Usman just saying he's Pound for pound. He thinks is the best fighter to ever fight. Really? Yeah Well, he's he's too away from beating Anderson Silva's record, right? Well, Sylvan's was 16 Yeah, 16 but without a loss and he's just he just keeps getting better and this fight was really You know, he's a piece good. Yeah, because they fought last night That's right. He took him five rounds on a six-day notice last time. So I was really excited about that fight I was like, dude, this dude hung with Usman last time with a six-day notice 20 pounds over way He cleaned his clock this time. Oh, bro Did you see all like the debris just hit so gnarly so speaking of these fights, right? Did you guys see the the the posts in the shit that Jake Paul is saying to Dana white? Yeah Okay, so this is the thing now. They're getting to this kind of like trolling. They're going to this back-and-forth kind of like World War, right Jake Paul is much better at the like how to how to how to use media to fuck with the other I think it's him or do you think he has somebody's helping him? I don't know but whoever it is He does a good job because he put Dana in a corner because here's what he did instead of because Dana got mad He's like look if you approach my fighters under contract again We're going to you know do lots of action. Yeah, we're taking legal action So Jake did the the very smart thing. He said here's the deal. Here's how much I made for my fight Here's how much we paid Ben Askren, which is more than you pay any of your other fighters You need to pay your fighters more your greedy or whatever How do you how does Dana white rebound from that that makes them look really bad gonna cause a little bit of a stir amongst The fighters and you know some little bit animosity. I don't think so. I think they know that no But I think what it does that's Brennan shops been talking about that forever, right? But what it does is it could stir up so much like oh, we want to see Jake Paul get his ass kicked Or we want to see whatever that he may actually get an opportunity to fight someone who's big If there's a lot of money small smart to that he was pointing at, you know, John Jones and they're trying to get him to fight You know in that fight that everybody wants to see now What's your pressure on that? What's your guys's take on something like that right somebody calling out like you was like What do you think the solution is or do you think that Dana should pay the fighters more or do you think that I mean if It wasn't for the UFC a lot of these fighters would never even be known like where do you where do you stand on that argument? So here's the reality. I know business. I don't want to hear the reality. I want to hear Europe Yeah, my opinion is based off reality You guys know enough about business to know this it's easy to look on the outside Like oh, they deserve to be paid more right the reality is that Dana White took the UFC Which was a fledgling company. They were barely making money if none if any at all and turned it into a profitable Business so to look on the outside and say these people deserve to make more money You have no idea what that what that looks like how he's running it And he had a mountain they've climbed to get and he's done a good job of building this incredible brand So can he pay them more? I don't know and what does that look like now in my opinion? I think he's doing a good job. Obviously UFC's crushing right, but will this pressure change things? I don't know I mean, I think naturally they're gonna continue to scale up like they have but I agree with you So that's I was curious which way you would go with that because it reminds me when I worked 24 and I'd have trainers right that when I was managing there when I had trainers that were working underneath me and You know, they put in a couple years in there They get pretty good at what they're doing and then they start looking at the math like man I'm only making you know, 50% of what this person is paying for and they ride away. I just like this is you know bullshit This is bullshit. I should be getting paid so much more if I go do this privately I get to collect all that money But what you just don't think about when you're in Working for that big massive company is the amount of leads and revenue They they potentially generate for you that you would have to try millions of dollars of marketing They've already put that's right all the materials. That's right. You it's no different than a teenage kid Telling his parents or her parent or whatever. I'm gonna move out. How much is rent? I could afford that I have a job here. It's not that big of a deal on every parent, you know that here's this is like, all right Yeah, go and see you can actually do all that cuz it's way more challenging to think right you think it's so easy It's the same thing when people look at companies and say the CEO is getting paid so much and the employees or whatever Why is this happening or whatever it's not how it works and Jake Paul could make that argument all day long that you know Oh, he's playing politics, which is smart. Yeah, it's smart and like his angle is smart But it's still you're talking about one fight, you know, how many people does Dana employ? No, how many fighters that wouldn't get a big payday like that Because it's not a big celebrity fight that are making legitimate money that have the opportunity to work their way up the rankings and Actually get paid and how long is Jake Paul gonna last doing this? There's only at some point. He's gonna have to fight a real fighter because people are gonna want to see better and better fighters Right and once he gets his ass kicked the show is over There's not gonna be a show anymore But now that he's winning they're kind of excited and people hate him. Yeah, but he loses a couple times It's done. He's a couple wasn't one Tyson fury or whatever like I was hearing talks of that's the rumor because that's a real fighter You know, that's that's somebody that you know boxing wise like it would really like put a star isn't there's two furies Right there are their brothers or there's a there's a Tyson and then there's another one, right? Maybe look at this. Look at the fury boxing brothers or something like that. I think they're related, right? There's two guys that I know that there's Tyson fury, which I think is the most famous in the big one I don't follow boxing. So I know somebody's cringing right now I'm trying to talk about boxing, but I know that who he's calling out isn't the the big It's not the it's not the main main dude, but it's another it's his I don't know if it's a brother Maybe Doug could hurry up. I heard that he was going that there was talks with Floyd Mayweather that's his that's his older brother. Oh, it is Logan and him have been talking about okay Yeah, and I thought he booked that didn't he booked that I may be that would be interesting But Floyd you know Floyd he's all about the yeah, what you got from your other Doug nothing nothing no connection Fury fury boxing guys. No, he's got no connection. I have no I have to look it up on my phone Oh, you have no connection. No, it's not going to the tech Not again Doug Speaking of Celebrities that are really annoying. I know I'm not a basketball fan, but boy does LeBron James Irritate that crap out of me Wow is that guy annoying super annoying? I'm just glad he's finally getting some pushback from all his bullshit, dude I It sucks because I'm such a I'm such a fan of his game, dude like he's he's Ruins it he's one of the best players ever played but the thing that I loved about You know Michael Jordan is he left the politics alone, dude He just stayed out of that Kobe did a good job of doing the same you know Okay, so here's the problem the second you have an opinion and you act virtuous you open yourself up to all your Hippocracies and LeBron is chock full of Hippocracies loves to call out some stuff Really does he really care? No because he's paid very heavily by a country that takes people because of the religion puts them in working camps and Violates human rights all the time will never say a word about that right really doesn't give a shit He wants people to think he gives a shit because he's behind his you know was super expensive 20-foot walls and whatever Full of crap. I hate that a noise. Yeah, you know you're over here talking about oppression But yet you've got children making your shoes that you're fucking puzzling out dude Come on, that's what I mean like he's opens himself up and he acts like he's so whatever, but he's not you're full of shit You're just a very very wealthy talent lucky man. You're a lucky man. I think he went too far though on this one I think this one even even my even my like super left friends are just like oh, you know Yeah, we don't want to that was a that was a pretty Justified shooting by that officer. I mean he was he saved the life of somebody else I'm sorry if I'm if someone's trying to stab me. I hope some a cop shoot some I really do People die from knife wounds all the time and by the way, have you guys seen videos of? People getting stabbed even after they've been shot or stabbing other people after they've been shot. Yeah, it happens Yeah, so it's not something that you you know you you take lightly. Yeah, that was very very justified. Yeah No, I agree with it, which is that's what's going on, right? I mean that that officer is not in trouble or anything like that I haven't followed it since like in the breaking I made a comment about LeBron saying something right afterwards I just this is so stupid for you to just open your mouth and open your mouth so early like it like Happened and then he right away. He was already now There was that funny meme that went around because he was saying apparently like oh the police officer could have Didn't have to use that much for I don't know something like that and people are like This is the same guy that falls down when someone touches him. Yeah I don't there's a lot of there's a lot of memes and funny So I've seen like some skits that our officers are doing on tiktok now, too. They're like hey LeBron Yeah, yeah, that's smart. Yeah, I was having this conversation with Jessica the most powerful Communication tool that exists right now is our memes or short humorous videos But memes for sure if you want to get your point across and you want it to spread fast If you make a funny meme or a meme that's like tongue-in-cheek or whatever that people like Within days that and it actually has a strong impact It's the political cartoon of today and political cartoons have always had lots of power So yeah and speaking along those lines if you guys seen the this is right I'm sure you guys got tagged if you guys seen the articles about this climate plan and how they're they're like Oh, it's gonna limit us to eating four pounds. Yes. I have so it's okay. Is it true It equated to like a one burger per month. So it's okay. So there's this is this is I love this right? So no not exactly, okay What what he said what happened was is Biden came out and said by the way I love when politicians do this they make a promise for some time in the future free pizza for everyone We're not gonna be around because it's like the next guy's gonna have to worry about it You know, so he made this thing and he said we are going to reduce We're gonna cut our emissions in half by 2030, of course You'll be out of office by then and whatever the next guys have to figure it out and not a big deal But anyway, this is what we're gonna do. So so I forgot what was this university came out and said, okay Here's what would have to happen in order to accomplish this particular goal And one of the things that they wrote in there was we're gonna have to limit our red meat consumption By like 90% and so that's where they got that that but it wasn't part of the plan for us to not What about all the factories around the world just immediate like an insane amount of carbon dude So I heard that was bullshit. I heard that like a Fox News stat that went out. No, it was just trying to make no They took this university's the hypothetical and then pinned it on but Biden didn't say specifically that all he said is He didn't say a plan actually he just said we're gonna cut emissions in half by 2030 Yes, yeah, I hate reporting on even shit like that because then it's not even real news Yeah, it's not really he didn't say that's you know, we talked about this along. Yeah, we thought it was a long time ago It's like you gotta be so careful now because the things that go viral are these like absurd extremes Yeah, that do not represent the majority a majority people don't agree with that You know and somebody is they're taking a a study or a single thing said and then they're taking it and they're running with Something crazy. That'll never work here. Of course Well, here's a thing though, and I've gotten a discussions in our forum about this This is how you know when someone's really serious about, you know improving Our climate, you know reducing pollution Do you support nuclear power if they say no, you know, they're full of shit because there is no technology at all today That even comes close to nuclear power's ability to give us power with minimal or almost no waste And I know this because the technology today is with nuclear power is incredible that literally could solve everything right now Well, they don't want to solve everything One side has their lobby group and the other side has their lobby group and they like to keep it that way I mean you guys saw that whole You know where they uncovered CNN and and how they basically that one reporter was kind of unveiling that a lot of It was propaganda that they were like really like they had massive efforts in that direction to You know get Trump out of office and so the other part the second part of that was now We're gonna turn towards climate control and that was like the big initiative from like the news media Yep, you need to have a scary problem Right you gotta have it you get people to do what you want because I'm telling you right now We could really solve it if you if you do your research and look at these Current generation nuclear reactors is the ones that in the past that have caused problems were old tech By the way, if you add the nuclear disasters and you compare them to the oil disasters and the pollution a lot of stuff They didn't come close anyway, but nonetheless the current technology with nuclear Extremely safe extremely efficient and produces little to no waste But they don't bring that up because that's an actual solution what they want are you know more problems Let's have more problems fear fear fear. Yeah, let's get scared. Anyway, let's talk about our workouts How are you guys doing with your training? We haven't talked about we talked about last episode But we haven't seen each other since yeah, no, yeah, I posted I posted I don't do that enough I know every time I do that I get all kinds of traction on my social media I think it added a bunch of people and I think the views on it are beyond anything else that I post anytime I do like me exercising so funny exercising are my food. It's like everybody wants to everybody wants to see But we were we had that debate recently about the the parallel squat and so I did a video. Oh, I saw that Yeah, it's very nice looking squatting barefoot. It's been a long time to get there Right like so it took me a long time to get that kind of depth It took me even longer to get to a place where I could do that with good control barefoot Without my my ankle now. Are you while you're doing it? Are you still having to really concentrate on everything or does it feel like it happens? No, no, no I have to really concentrate. So that was only 185 pounds, right? Which is relatively light for me for squatting. Where do you find that it breaks down in that same? Position my feet feet, but how much weight? Oh, you mean I count how much? Yeah, um, if I'm moving to 25 10 plus reps, okay So or if I'm hitting 315 and above then the feet starts to break. Yeah Then that's and that's the reason why I work I'll work with like a lighter weight like that because that was the intention The intention was you know, I'm squatting barefoot. I'm not trying to load I'm trying to depth control and feel my feet gripping the ground and see if there's any breakdown and you know I could I could do that slow and control with 185. It's hard to do that with 225 and above that deep that slow and control people don't know this but but you know, you had You didn't have you had terrible mobility. Yeah years ago when you started when we well, you know, we're working out together Yeah, so this is a dramatic change. Yeah, it's been a it's been a long time that I've focused on it And I tell you what the thing that the thing that's most impressive or that I think it matters the most is Is the pain relief? Yeah, it's great that now that I squat that deep that I've been able to develop my legs with less effort and you know I love that but I actually have completely eliminated my hip and low back pain that I suffered from for so long And I just I get it now. I understand what's gone. What happened is I just I limited my body from going that that deep It's it's a it's a place that my ankles and my hips should be able to do Because you never did that you lost it. Yeah, and that and that's exactly was the what the post was all about is just you know For those people that you know Gravitate towards the other guy that was debating us about the whole parallel thing is Okay, you know Just be careful, you know because I was that same kid who attached himself to people that were you know Promoting messages like that that this is you know Here's the best place to build your quads because as a 20 year old That's all I cared about and then I found myself in my 30s not able to squat down all the way to the ground and sit there Comfortably and you know if someone would have told me like do you care if you lose out? I would have said yeah I think do you think if you went back in time and talk to 20 year old Adam Do you think you'd be able to convince him? I do I think so because Because you I didn't I have more muscle on my legs. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, you would have to say it that way Yeah, yeah, hey by the way doing it this way. You're not gonna lose muscle Yeah, like this the pitch to me would have been this right so if I'm going back and I'm pitching 20 year old me And I know and I know it's important because I know there's people listening right now I don't care right right. I don't want to lose muscle by focusing on the way I would start it would be like hey bro check this out I'm gonna show you a way for you to do less on your legs and have as much more muscle if not more muscle That's how I'd start it and then on top of that I'm gonna make sure that you don't have any chronic low back pain that's going to riddle you in the next five or ten years So to me that would be the selling point is because if you just went from the pain angle when you're 22 and you feel pain-free You're indestructible. Yeah, I gotta listen right. I'm not I'm not listening. Yeah But if you sold me on that I would be able to build as much muscle if not more muscle by learning to go Deeper full range of motion and here's the steps. Yep in order to get there that you need to work on so that you can do that That's what would probably well. I've adjusted my workouts a bit like because I was starting to feel a bit of hip pain Zumba. Yeah, stop my shit. Yeah. Yeah, cuz you know, I was going crazy with that And so I just completely I'm doing you know lateral style training especially on leg day for for for that reason But I've been actually gaining quite a bit of strength in my overhead press again Which is something I really wanted to you know get back at and see what I could press with that So that's been kind of fun, dude Cuz I've been doing a lot of rotational work a lot of mobility with my shoulders and kind of reinforcing bullet proofing them And now I can really see it start to elevate. What are you gauging as you're like? What are you measuring for the overhead press? Is it a push press or strict standing strict standing press? Strict press, you know where you're at right now like before Yeah, so I'm about 205. Yeah, so which is good which good first for me But I got up to like 225 before strict and then you know anything over that I'm definitely doing a push So your goal is to get past your old. Yeah 225. That's my goal So I got I got to give you credit because I've been doing a lot of the sled and I've made it now a consistent part of my routine Huge carryovers to yes my squats and my deadlifts huge carryover to deadlift even huh? Well anytime my squat goes up This is true for most people right anytime your squat goes up your deadlift will probably go up Not the same the other way around right deadlift goes up doesn't always mean my squats, but my squat goes up I know my deadlifts goes up and I don't have your guys's mobility I can break parallel so I'll get the lights if I were to compete or whatever, but I don't go lower than that I just don't have the mobility for it, but my squat has gone up You've been working on your squat for some time now, dude And you just said what you're like 415 I was doing singles with 415 working out My max I actually felt like I could have gone up as maybe as high as 425 and it was because of the sled Oh, wow because what I'm doing is I'm on Saturdays I load the sled up as much as I as I can so it's a heavy drive and I'll drive it for you know 30 steps in either direction and it's not you don't get sore. There's no negatives, right? So there's no eccentric load on it. I'm not getting sore or anything I definitely get a little bit of a pump, but then when I go work out with my legs I'm like, where's this strength coming from and then what I'm doing also is I told you guys are playing around with failure so the next three weeks I cut my volume down and So rather I'm literally cut my volume down one third down a whole third And then I'm going to failure on a few sets, right? So today was my first going to failure on deadlifts. Oh Bro, I put 315 on the bar and I'm like I'm gonna keep going until if my hands give up or until I know My form is 20 reps were fatigued first 20 reps my I was actually able to hold on Yeah, what started to happen is I started to feel like I was gonna rant like my back Yeah, so I that was it. I stopped at 20, but dude I had to sit down and you know the you know the barber was here, right? And so I'm like trying to hurry up so I can get yeah, no dude. I had to rest for like 20 minutes I'm not gonna make this 8 a.m. Yeah, cuz I'm gas talking about your workout your physique that we were talking about the other day, dude Please tell me you saw Carlos his post on mine, bro, bro Tell me you did that oh the audio sauna one the guy. Oh my god Yeah, you know the thankfully you could take the balls you have to have on to this kid like so Tell the audience he was you tone the line there, you know, he's like I wonder if I can get away You know, here's the deal right so we we're With our podcast we've had the podcast for a while and more recently we focused on Putting the podcast on YouTube and making it kind of a visual show as well that has grown totally different audience, right? So I would say the crossover. What would you guess the crossover audience is 10 15% maybe right? So it's like a brand new audience on YouTube YouTube is Majority male and they're younger and so they fucking roast you sometimes Yeah, and so the comments are just like wow, dude. Yeah, they'll like they're literally gonna talk shit about your physique Yeah, like I we're doing a podcast. I'll say something like you're fat or whatever like. Oh my god So somebody said I'm sitting already tea. Yeah, someone said my chest didn't look good I had a guy know or something. Yeah, not true. Okay. You ever meet me come touch me Come touch my nipples. Yeah, I see what you're doing. I see what you're doing. Yeah, so anyway No, so no, so that started so I talked about on the podcast and of course YouTube is like again It's troll land, right? So you do that oh next thing, you know, people now are fucking throwing more now Well, you know, I was more impressed with just the balls on Carlos right this kid so this kid Super hustler mine pump memes. Yeah, my pump means not even our page. It's not so that's why I want to make this clear Right, so he's technically not affiliated with mine pump that he just has been hustling and got our attention And a lot of people have done this by the way, so you know before you go run out and try and good luck I don't really work. Yeah, it doesn't really work, but his did his did and I thought he caught the flavor somehow He did he did a really good job of catching the voice of the brand He was not afraid to attack us which I think we're all okay with we do it but he does it the right way, right? Yeah, he doesn't a very playful fun way and When when we first got on the fly called him up and and I wanted to see if he was open to Working with us and actually providing some in fact his memes pop up on Yeah, so if you're watching you though if you're seeing memes pop up that's he's making and this is something that he's just doing on your zone Like he's got he's going to school for his degree right now. He's working full-time. He does day trading And then he also is I mean the kid got a respect and he also roasts out. Yeah, it's great So you guys are next well, I act right now. I would love to see a meme No, I mean he's he's laid into everybody really well, and we first got on the phone he He was like yeah, I wasn't sure how you guys would take all that. I said no, I would love it I absolutely love as long as it's relevant to the show and yeah, but also here's a deal And this is why I would hate to do any kind of new media As a younger guy it would be rough because you're so insecure Yeah, I don't care dude. I'm I'm 42. I've been doing this forever. I've heard it all yeah It's almost impossible really to fuck with me. Well, why do you think it drives all these young kids to do like stupid shit is because of that? I mean the pressure I you know, that's the part of me that I feel sorry for some of them you get if you build this This fame on social media, which is so different than like fame in real life because you've impacted people right? There's a difference when you've you've done something in real life that you have impacted drawn people to you Yes drawn people to you look at me right you built these relationships and you fostered that and versus I Did something on social media that's got all this attention and then I've created kind of this monster because a lot of times What or at least what in my experience, right? So I've known over generalization here. I know there's exceptions to the rule a Lot of these people that get all this fame on social media a lot of times It's really not even them like it's not who they really are in most times It's a it's an act and what I found these kids that are really good at it They're just they can get turn the camera on and they just they they're this personality my character Yeah, they can become a character their personality comes out They're incredible and you can always tell because you meet them in person They're just they're nothing like this character and that might work to build a business and make some money initially But I can it'll eventually wear on you totally Especially when you meet people or you're afraid to be a particular way because of your fakeness and hype like for example This is a silly example This actually happened where there was like a vegan influencer So they had pages about how great veganism is and it's so awesome And I hate that people hurt animals and they built kind of this small following And then they were on vacation and like Thailand or something and they were eating I don't know what it was chicken or fish and they're just so happened to be somebody there that Followed them took a picture and posted it ruined you're now ruined Why because the person's fake the person wouldn't really wasn't what they said that they were but I couldn't imagine getting You know roasted as a kid is a 20 year old Imagine getting your getting your body picked apart as a 20-something-year-old kid. Just no your fat or your arms Don't look good. Oh my god. What am I gonna do? I gotta go like work out more and like Well, why do you think it drives them to have that to that image of like you There's a lot of channels most your fitness channels in fact that are are popular Kids are rocking no shirt on it. So what that I'm like, could you imagine having to keep that physique up? Yeah, keep that physique up year-round perfect lighting otherwise. Yeah, and you're slightly off You bet your ass they let you know, you know say like what it by the way, that's a very burgers this week That's a very cheap and Not long-term effective way of selling your ideas in fitness is to say look at me You know what that works for long-term like the best of the best like I'm the strongest man ever lived I've left whatever but yeah, okay. You look good It might get you some attention, but you're not gonna have a lot of value. It's not gonna last very long You're very very short-term. No, thanks. I'd rather be known for my ideas. Yeah, then what I look like He did somebody send over this morning with did Jackie send over did I see only fans is having trainers coaches on there? No, I did see something about yeah, let me see. Yeah, somebody sent that was it on that thread I don't know. You know Justin. Where did you see it? Yeah, it was on. Yeah, it was I think it was the group one with I'm pretty sure Jackie sent that over. I can't see it. No. No, I can't find it But yeah, there was yeah, maybe it was fake. I don't know if it was real though It's it's pretty hilarious because talk about an easy transition of you know Yeah, so let's work out and then also after hours, you know like hey, they that company is gonna look it up right now Why you're looking up speaking of crazy? I cannot believe I'm like so disappointed in all of us right here I can't believe we've been podcasting this long and the we work story has never came up I just I did not know anything about it. And by the way that also reminds me of this bouncing around here on you guys Yeah, you forgot take your riddle in this one. Yeah, we talked a long time ago about Streaming remember and you're like, oh, I think it'll be this, you know A lot of different ones all the cart type of deal and I'm like, yeah I think like that there's gonna be the dominant ones are gonna come out and you might be right in this situation, right? But what I look at it might be what happened. I'm not admitting yet Yeah, I'm not fully committed to you Because what the way it's starting to shape up like to what you're saying is that if if streaming media was food Netflix is candy and HBO Max and Disney is like a steak. Sure. That's how I feel like man I've been on HBO Max lately and the content that they're producing way better fire way better fire They're they're and they don't put out as much nor near what Netflix does but higher quality the quality of the shows are I mean, I'm under this. I'm on the series right now called generation hustle on HBO Max and It's a one-hour like docu series on, you know, just like it sounds this this generation and they're all their hustle And some of it's like con artists and some crazy stories last night I was watching the we work story knew nothing about this guy's guy Adam Who was the the CEO founder of we work that grew this thing and maybe Doug can check me on with a dollar amount because I know Judd Doug washes to like basically an office environment that you rent space in right? Yeah, everybody knows what it is, right? Yeah, I was just sure everybody. Yeah, so again explain that again. So yeah, so we work is it's one of many companies, right? They're not the only company that does this They were one of the early ones that came out with this idea that you know A lot of people don't want to pay for a whole office space, but they'll rent for and we do this We do this a lot. We have our marketing team who's out in Vegas. They fly in We rent a space at a we work type of place for three hours be a conference room. You get a projector I have friends that are stockbrokers that have that work for themselves and that's what they do They meet their their clients in these offices that they rent right right and he he built this idea around like this This company being like a tech company And it reminds me of that this big debate and argument that we just recently got into with my buddy about tonal and how it's Overvalued because they they value it like a tech company and it's just really it's a fitness company first And that's where it's fault is that's this this is a real estate leasing company. That's all it is Where's the tech angle? Yeah, that's where they try to put the spin on it that it is a a tech company and they're good They're revolutionizing how people are going to work in the future the guy who ran this thing Okay, was super charismatic. I mean he just had this ability to capture a room and he had like no real Experience leading into this and he's a cult dude. Well that so that actually in there much more problem A really cool quote that I heard somebody in the show say that then I liked it He said there's a very thin line between Colt and culture. Hmm. I like that because there's there's truth to that right cult is the root word of I know I know that so I like I like oh look at look at there's that there's the How how fast did it get up to the that crazy billion dollar valuation Doug and where'd it go from? Yeah, it looks like in 2010 it was around zero and then by 2018 or 19 it had gotten up to like 50 Sorry, 48 million or something like that billion I should say billion Wow B. Yeah, yeah All on just like a place that was an office space Yeah, and he had so many people that were investing him and dumping money in him He ended up getting out so he sold out his shares walked away with like a billion dollars and is all under investigation right now I didn't know any of this story. Wow, I didn't even know this was a thing like happening, right? And this there's we works over here. Mm-hmm. We've been in them before. Mm-hmm So they're super but when we go to the other one we go to isn't we work so it's spaces. Yeah, it's another spaces Well, we've been to one though. We've been to a we've gone to a couple. At least I don't have I've been in there I've met already. I mean, they're they're just they're all the same Yeah, they create this environment that you know, it's ping-pong and coffee nothing tech You know speaking of you because you said the guy who did this is like the super charismatic guy That didn't know much about the business, but was just very charismatic. Yes, and then I think about like What was that that event that was totally blew up with jaw rule and that other dude the fire festival? Yes, okay And then there was that one woman who was selling that that medical technology and got all this whatever and turned out to be Totally fake, right? You know, I'm talking about this happens over and over again because and this is a great lesson for any kids That are listening or watching this right now the most not to say that you should do what they're doing That's dishonest, but nonetheless it does prove a point the most important skill that you could ever develop That will pay you dividends regardless I don't care what you do people skills and if you can teach you and this is it's a skill now Of course, there's just like there's people would like you can wield it to do bad Yeah, well you could or you can wield it to do good Extremely powerful and it'll make you successful or more successful. I don't care what you do You can be a teacher you'd be a plumber you could be a doctor if you have people skills and it is a skill You can develop and of course there's people that are Genetically more gifted in that department just like there's some people that are just genetically better basketball players Nonetheless, you could teach yourself to be a better basketball player Focus on people skills It'll it'll pay you back more than any other skill that you could possibly learn and it's a fact this one also It reminded me so much of tonal because where I see the potential loophole and again the argument that my buddy Brendan was trying to make with it was leaning on growth and You if you are a smooth leader like this guy was he was so great at selling his Vision and getting more people and more people to buy in and buy in and give money and give money That he was just building and building and building I mean it was like one of the fastest growing companies in history ever at one point just off at growth So then he cashed out and then yeah, but the finances weren't there. It wasn't very profitable They were I mean that the thing was losing money But because of the the exponential growth year over year because of the amount of money that they kept taking in And he kept selling more people and more people to get behind it that there everyone was talking about growth But nobody was talking about like what the bottom line looked like like where is this really going and how are we really going to monetize? There's more ways and just leasing a space and is this over inflated and eventually of course the balloon popped But I mean that's that's what I think of when I think of what I see with these these Companies that are fitness companies that are getting evaluated as as tech companies Like even if there is the because there obviously there is a tech component to tone on comparison to we work So I'll I'll accept that right that there is a tech component And if we could in a fantasy world believe that everybody when they start their work out They continue forever and they never quit and they input this data every single day So you can learn all about their behaviors their weight their their eating habits their exercise habits That's valuable information that I could see that you could get a big valuation off of but what we know That the average person falls off within six weeks That's the bottleneck the bottleneck is how consistent and how often are people gonna work out right that is we know What those numbers look like regardless of the modality and that's the problem And you know here's another company that and I'm gonna I'm gonna guarantee you I'm gonna piss people off or get people excited or whatever But another company it reminds me of a company that gets evaluated like a tech company and it continues to do this But the numbers don't make sense is Tesla the numbers do not make sense now I know why it's valued so high It is like a tech company and then you have Elon Musk Elon Musk So I'm gonna I'm gonna defend that one. Okay, so I'm gonna take I'm gonna take the opposing Here's why I do see it being crazy right first of all if you compare it to like General Motors Ford things like that Right, they still own such a fraction of the the space So if you do believe that we're going in this green direction where you know these types of Electric cars is going to be the future. I think we all agree there right so we agree and they would be the front-runner in that area So at one point you have to believe that they are going to be one of the leading car sales I don't oh you don't know you believe okay. You believe that we're going They don't own that they don't it's not like they are the only company that has technology to go electric Yeah, but they're they're leading that technology in that space Okay, and so what would you make what would make you think then that Toyota Honda? Those massive companies which their profits and they're they're they're the size dwarfs Tesla dwarfs They don't move in that direction until the market tells them to move now Tesla can take all these risks and do all that because it's a smaller company They operate a little differently again Elon has got that celebrity like do you know the CEOs of any other car company? No, you don't like Elon is Steve Jobs, right a bet on him and also, too It's a data thing. It's just like everything else So they're collecting because they have to press so hard at you know having autonomous driving cars Like they're the only companies out there that's right moving that direction. It's not true You have Google and I mean there's a few but are doing that you know Toyota silently though Yeah, there's only one out there's a lot. So Toyota's moving this way There are a lot of them are moving that way But I would say Tesla is leading that technology and that and this is where that technology here's a difference too Okay, so we all use our cars. Okay, it's not like fitness. Yeah, I know that right It's here and there and I've been saying this for a while that we haven't quite got here But there's a tremendous value in being able to track People's behavior with where where they drive like imagine You're in a Tesla and they have they have been tracking you for the last year of where you stop to get gas Where you stop to go get groceries all the different food possibilities are huge Yeah, and you imagine driving in your Tesla and you're in traffic and you're one block away from Chick-fil-a my favorite breakfast sandwich and it goes get one free chick-fil-a sandwich right now if you drive through and buy Of course, you know I'm saying and oh yeah redeem and all I have to do is hit I get I get I swing and I get it like I mean I get that they're gonna be the ones that need to lead that now They're not because they're they don't own that tech That's a lot of companies have that tech and have more of that Google already has tons of information on you Facebook already does All it takes is for to go with Facebook Haven't they been trying to partner with a big tech company like for a while now and they've been turned down Why do you think they've been turned down? Well because a lot of them are doing it They have is is the car element that they haven't figured out yet. None of those other tech companies really proven that Tesla's got that cool factor It's got Elon Musk and in their car who the hell but you just wait you just wait for Toyota Honda They come and they they're like, oh, okay The market's really pushed in this direction either because the government made regulations to make it mandatory Well, because the market because if you actually do the math, I'm telling you right now Actually do the math it still makes no sense to buy an electric car And if you actually look at the the amount of coal that they have to burn Oh, I know it doesn't add up not being environmentally conscious not completely right But it will in the future when it starts to get to that we're more efficient with it starts to get to that point Tesla's I mean the competition is gonna explode and if you look at their bottom line you look at their numbers They're not a super big product their valuation of the stock market makes no sense I mean, I don't totally disagree with that there the value if you believe in Elon Musk and you believe he's Tony Stark And you believe he's like what you don't even do which he's a guy You just gotta believe that that the the old dogs are gonna get knocked off the hill You just gotta believe that GM Toyota Honda one of the big dogs is Is it time that you we see a new one that's comes in there? I mean we so okay listen in our in just in the last two decades look at Kia Okay, did you know Kia was a laughing stock when it first came in and then it got in partnered with the NBA and these big team And now Kia is like one of the number one selling vehicles in the world Yeah, but hold on a second So what makes you think that Tesla can't come up and be the same thing because they still have it and you know Tesla doesn't work with dealerships you guys know this right yeah, okay So you know there's states and areas that you can't sell Tesla's because they have Regulations and laws that say you have to go through a dealership Do you know who has their hands in every aspect of car sales in America all the big Car dealerships all the big car manufacturers. It's a it's a if you really look at it and break it down That's part of why I think the belief and the hype is around him is that he's trying to disrupt you're right It's here be the uber We're this close to never going to be this way dealership to buy a car in the first let me put it this way If something happened Elon Musk and he was gone their stock would plummet now when Steve Jobs left There was a little dip in the stock But Apple still held strong because they were really fundamentally didn't dude Apple was almost like a dive dude Apple almost went bankrupt until Steve Jobs came out and saved the company I'm talking about went after the second time when Steve Jobs left passed away. Oh, yeah, but that's that's his leadership shadow No, it's not a leadership shadow. It's because Apple was a well. Yes. I guess it was because Apple fundamentally Was a hugely profitable company if Elon is gone They're gonna look at the numbers and be like this doesn't make any yeah, that's about it That's a bad example because that's right now. I mean just Steve Jobs was Apple They got they didn't think he was Apple he left Apple it tanked and almost went bankrupt He brought back Apple came back completely changed the game in it and then went on for decades Then passes on and by that time it's established. So we'll see Tesla's getting established right now They're still in that phase. So yes, if Elon died today Absolutely, I would agree with you that I would shake things up But I think that he's leading the way on in many ways In that in that space they're the most visible. They're the pioneers right now And it's yeah, there is a lot of competition coming in that direction But I do think like there's something to be said about the one that's like the spearhead of the whole and remember He doesn't necessarily need to put out Honda Toyota he doesn't need to put them all out of business He just needs to take a share from all of them And if he be if he becomes the electric car guy and takes a majority of that market from all those people Yes, ha they all they already make electric cars. It's not like he owns electric cars electric cars are being made But Tesla's he's crushing them in comparison to that nobody wants to see him succeed more than I do I'm a huge Elon Musk fan. Love the guy, but if you look at the numbers look how much money He's gotten from governments and states because of them trying to promote green energy and a lot of stuff How much money he's had to pay back and also if you look at it from a business standpoint and you look at their valuation It makes zero sense. It's like dogecoin. It's like hype But it doesn't make any sense and you look at the potential You can't draw those parallels get out of here dodge dodge coin is Made up from nothing. There's nothing back to you. Come on what I mean by that. It's hype It's based mostly on hype and not on fundamentals. I mean, I don't know. I disagree with that You ever gotten a Tesla? They're badass. No hype around that. I didn't say they weren't badass But that doesn't mean that the numbers work. Well, okay So I can't there's this restaurant down the street that I used to love going to they shut down They didn't profit they had made the best freaking calisthenes ever though. Yeah, that's fair. That's a fair That's a fair argument, but I I think that there's he's okay Another thing that's cool about them that they do that. I haven't seen anybody else do You know you if they upgrade anything that's how connected they are. Yeah, I know it's like an app Yeah, you can boom they connect to the car like that. I mean they're doing things So much further ahead than everybody else in that space that I I believe that when when they all when they all pivot and move that direction when we probably have to at one point I do think that they that's why I feel like they they'd look at it most like a tech company than any other of the car You know competitors because of that fact like they're iterating constantly They're they're adjusting things in terms of like tire pressure and you know that they just send it out And all of a sudden you have it all upgraded. Oh, yeah, one other company's doing that You get a message that says your zero to 60 just went down point two seconds. Yeah, it's crazy I mean it is it's very cool But you wait the second apple or google which has way more information than than tesla partners with ford Or toyota or honda. Yeah, but okay I mean that you're talking about a company that has nothing to do with cars, you know I'm saying apples already talking about partnering with them They're doing their own car. They're already talking about making their own car exactly They're doing their own cars So now what you're saying is a bunch of non fitness people coming in the fitness space thinking they're going to make fucking fitness So what you're what you're saying has the same thing facebook trying to make cars And autonomous cars and google trying to make autonomous cars, which is what they're trying to do It's very ballsy because you're going to go against people that have been making cars going to be a flop Guaranteed, of course Maybe but here i'll take it a step further Do you think the future of cars is people buying their own cars or is the future of cars? You hit your app and it picks you up. Who's going to win that market? Well, if you do that way route then uber There you go. So my point is my whole point of this is it's the tesla is a lot of hype The money doesn't make sense when you look at their profits you look at their earnings You look at all their numbers. 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There are also studies to show this With the squeeze you got to do both and this, you know, I know earlier we talked about full range of motion This is part of that bodybuilders have known this for a little while now The funny thing is later on they started doing kind of shorter reps but you go back into To the you know, the the 70s the golden era of bodybuilding and it was about full range of motion and the studies Support this now. Here's the value with both of them. Okay The squeeze I find to be more important when you have trouble connecting to a muscle. Well, that's what uh, Ben pokolski would say Yeah, Ben pokolski would say if you have uh weak calves or a weak muscle part That you probably lagging. Yeah lagging. Yeah, that's what I mean by weak right not necessarily strong was I mean by look the way it looks development. So if you have a lagging or weak muscle That it's most likely that you have a poor connection in the contracted position That you cannot connect very well to the muscle in that in that position So and he's got a lot of research to support that argument. I mean that based off my experience I would agree and I would agree too. I think that's I think that's very true And so and and then I think in a stretch position is the easiest place for somebody to feel That's where the most damage is done, right? So a lot of the research on the eccentric portion of the exercise The negative the way down in the stretch of the muscle. That's where more of the muscle fiber damage Yeah, so there there is this is not an either or they both are extremely valuable both should be included in your hypertrophy training and And I'll take it one step further which I say this on the show all the time is The one that will probably give you the most bang for your buck is the one that you neglect the most So if you're somebody who trains in the stretch position all the time and you like to really focus on that But you never really focus on the contraction in this is where you get into all the camps, right? You know, and it's it's just funny because you know, your muscle it's going to contract You have your concentric contraction. You have your isometric contraction every eccentric contraction There's like those three factors just by themselves like you could develop a training protocol That's just like I'm just going to focus and just on this particular element of of the trains So both of them to me are massively valuable and you should integrate both, you know today I saw Justin doing an exercise that Really exemplified both of these so he was doing flies, but they were alternating, right? Oh, right So the arm that was up and I could tell he was doing this by the way, you'd make a good bodybuilder I know you act like you don't try to but you're all about connection. It's just oh, yeah But he was squeezing right so like squeezing the left pack while the right pack goes down to stretch So long squeeze long stretch and then alternating. That's like a great example of taking advantage of both Right, but I remember as a trainer when I would have a client that would say and I figured it took me a While to figure this out But if I had a client that said I don't feel my chest on a bench presser I don't feel my glutes in a squat One of the one of the ways I would get them to feel it would be right before we do the squat I'd have them focus on squeezing that muscle and it's fully contracted position And then hold the squeeze for a long period of time to really feel that they could connect to it Then we'd go to the exercise and boom they were connected shows up. Yeah now the stretch Stretch and when you're when you can connect to a muscle Stretch is great. Especially if you exaggerate the stretch or hold the stretch You ever do that where you get into a position and you're doing the fly or whatever And you're holding that bottom position while maintaining control and then do some reps phenomenal There's a what's there's a name for that too. Uh, interest stretching. I forget what the interest Yeah, there's there's I forget what that's a technique also that a lot of bodybuilders use where between sets They'll do that deep stretches and they'll hold like a really heavy weight for I don't know Short period of time and then go back to it. Next question is from jameel a 144 I'm absolute dog shit at pull-ups Could doing some pull-ups every day increase my proficiency? If so, how many would you recommend per day the the most? Effective strategy that you can have to getting good at one particular exercise is to literally practice it every day Now I said practice not train it. So here's the key here Let's say this person can do max five pull-ups. So five is their absolute max You're not going to do five pull-ups every single day. It's way too intense Maybe do one or two Throughout the day. So you have a pull-up bar in your wherever your closet or whatever And maybe four or five times a day you walk by the pull-up bar and you do like one or two And then you drop it and then you do whatever you're going to do in a couple hours later You do it again. You could do this with squats. You could do this with bench press You can do this with any exercise This this this constant kind of load of moderate intensity of practice builds strength So fast. It's one of the best techniques. I've ever tried for myself for building strength. Well, you know, I like that A lot because you're fresh you're you're You know, you're in a position where if I'm going to go like try to perform this exercise I'm going to really work on this is going to be like the best Like I have the best energy going in my technique is going to be the best I can I can connect to my body and then I'm going to stop and I'm going to come back when I'm fresh again Versus just trying to grind my way through it a lot of times we get into that You know rep thing where we have to like get all these reps in just because and and what we're doing is we're promoting like sloppy form We're we're promoting, uh, you know, not the optimal version of that where I can build upon So it's to keep doing that and then keep fresh and and and taking reps when you know You walk by like just one to two. I think it's perfect. You know, this is so true that I was stronger at pull-up. So I you know later on in my my late 20s In 30s, I got to the place where I could deadlift over 500 pounds So you think I had this really massively strong back But I could do more pull-ups when I was like 18 19 years old And why that was was when I worked at the dairy and we used to have this This bar that I had to walk under to go get the cows and I had to do that 120 times like a day And like every couple times I would just jump up and hit two pull-ups then go back to my work just all day Yeah all day long and I was listening to music doing I think I wasn't even thinking of it like a workout I was just messing around I was killing time for the cows to walk in or something like that So I jump up and do it and I just kind of played around with that and I did that for so many years working there Then I'd go in the gym and I could rep out 25 plus pull-ups like nothing like super pull-ups were easy for me back then So I've had more I've had a hard time getting good at pull-ups as I've got or but I've never Applied that level of frequency that I did it when I was 18 So when you tell stories like that about how you know, this is the way to do it Like it doesn't matter how strong you are on your back and all these other exercise It's very specific to pulling up the best thing you could possibly do Is just frequently do it you cannot and the only way you can do too much of it Is if the intensity of it by how much how much you do like you said So the idea is not do you don't want to train it to fail you repractice it That's right You do not want to train it to failure when you do that you're if I could do 20 pull-ups I'm only doing a couple of those and then getting down. Let me give you another example Let's say your max squat is let's say you could do 315 315 pounds for 12 reps and that's failure So 315 12 reps and you're like I want to get stronger at squats. Well, here's what you could do Let's just say you had a squat rack in your garage put 315 on it And I don't know every two or three hours go out there and do three four reps. That's it So you could do 12 just do like three reps every two or three hours You're just going out you're practicing three up obviously the intensity is low And by the way here by the way keep doing that don't do more because you think you got stronger Do that for like Four weeks at the end of four and keep doing three or four even if the three or four feels super easy Stick to it at the end of the four weeks go and see what your max is and you'll be very surprised at how strong you got This was a technique that was utilized by the soviets with olympic weightlifting and olympic weightlifters It's by the way of all the resistance training kind of like strength sports that you'll find By far the most science has been applied. They do the best job of actually approaching it like they're practicing Yes, yeah constant and the chinese now are phenomenal at this you look at the chinese weightlifters And they're just doing tremendous and they just they practice they practice all day long And they train these kind of sub maximal loads Next question is from taylor back up When should muscle muscle finishers be used and how important are they who picked the questions today? You did this one Muscle finishers are that's bodybuilding jargon right and that basically means exercises you do at the end of a workout to give you a better pump and they typically are isolation exercises cable exercises Machines and it's like okay So, you know for chest finisher would be like a cable crossover right or for for delts It might be like a lateral, you know or for biceps I might be like any as many reps as possible or something exactly It's just to kind of squeeze more blood in the muscle So, you know when should they be used well if you're gonna do them like a bodybuilder I do them at the end of the workout obviously But really the value of finishers is that these are exercises that don't produce a lot of damage But they allow you to add more volume That's really what it is. Okay, so I did the bulk of my workout I know I can add more volume, but if I let's say it's chest again, and I just said cable crossovers, right? I just finished my chest workout If I do three more sets of bench press. It's it's a compound lift. There's a lot of load It caused a lot of damage that'll tip me over over training. How can I add more volume without overtraining? I know I'll pick this exercise. It doesn't cause a lot of damage and just do with do some more extra I mean when you're when you're working on the pump, right? So you're when you're chasing The pump I see value in these or when you are really trying to work on connection Right get more connection to a muscle, right? I and similar to what we were talking about earlier about the stretch or the contraction position I see value in these things other than that. I actually see them I see them abused more in that space So I remember training with obviously a lot of competitors when I was competing And a lot of their programming looked like this They they start with the and we'll just use chest since all of them love to do chest, right? They start with Either some good dumbbell press or maybe a barbell chest and then the next three exercises that we would do Okay, because there's times where I'd hop in with guys let them lead the workout just to see what they would do You know, we would do, you know, this this incline, you know barbell bench press to start off I'm like, all right coolest routine starting good and then we go over and we hit like the hammer strength machine Then we do cable crossovers and a bunch of finishers Yeah, a bunch of finishers and we're just chasing the pump the whole workout was that was like we did like one What I would consider big bang for your buck exercise the one that's really going to grow my chest The one that's really going to make the most difference We did one exercise of that we did three sets and then we're already out of it And now we're on to all these other exercises where we're just pumping fluid in there And psychologically it would trick these guys the thinking that they're because they get all pumped full of fluid You're drinking water You're doing high repetitions You're connected really well to it. You get a lot of tension on it because it's cable work And so they get all this fluid filled in But then their chest doesn't grow that much because they're they're missing out on the really good exercises Now I prefer if I'm doing if you're doing single muscles or say, you know One muscle part or two muscles per workout. I want to get at least two or three Really good compound type exercises dumbbell barbell type work And then the very last exercise the one exercise I'll do is this, you know machine or cable work to kind of But you would never trade a big bang for your buck exercise for a finisher never and that and that's what's most common So the people that talk about finishers and stuff what ends up happening is Some kids sees that like, oh my god. I so felt that or they look at themselves in the mirror And they're all pumped up from it They're like, oh it must have worked the best and then they're they're then their programming starts to look like a Bunch of finishers and maybe one or two really good exercises in there It's like so that's that's the problem I see that this jargon comes from the bodybuilding space and they're the most guilty of of abusing these types of exercises One of the best things I ever did was to get away from that and train more Like a power what benefited me the most as a bodybuilder was actually training more like a powerlifter and getting away from all these Super setting finisher pumping type of exercises because I was missing out on the things that were really building the most muscle Next question is from elevated primate. How much daily cardio is enough? Really depends. It depends a lot on what you mean by a define cardio too Yeah, like are you looking for athletic performance? In which case you want to do the right amount of cardio to maximize the type of performance you're looking for Is it for fat loss if it's for fat loss? That's nutrition And cardio is is completely not needed whatsoever If it's for health, how much cardio is enough? Here's the best thing you could do for health From a cardio standpoint just make sure you walk a lot throughout the day That's actually the best possible thing you could do for longevity And for health and the best way to do that is rather than doing one big long walk a day is to do Several walks throughout the day In order to keep the body moving keep things Inflammation down and keep you healthy From a but from a fat lock because this is probably from a fat loss perspective Zero zero isn't it? You don't need any cardio to burn body fat. It's all a nutrition as a nutrition thing And if you use cardio for fat loss Then you're you're doing something that's not very effective. Maybe for a couple weeks, but that's well That's usually the hardest pill to swallow is is to understand that what the conventional view of cardio really is unnecessary You can get a lot of Of that to burn calorie if that's your your entire goal you could really just focus on upping your activity levels and moving around and Picking things up and you know taking every opportunity to You know move more like park further away There's just like all kinds of different types of strategies you can implement throughout your day That will actually have more of an impact because it's it's it's a lifestyle shift Versus to just like dedicate myself to an hour on the treadmill of just like running like a you know hamster on a hamster wheel so my answer would be what Whatever you can see yourself doing for the rest of your life is enough Right. So if you bring up your points out like, you know, I can I could see myself just breaking up the day with two or three Good long 20 minute walks every day forever. I could do that. I could definitely see myself Maybe you love to get on the elliptical Maybe you love to row and you're like man, I love to row for 30 minutes Is that okay? Can I do that every day if you love to do it and you could do it for the rest of your life? That's great. I think that's that's I think there's lots of benefits doing that But to your point most people ask this question because they think they need to do it in order to lose Body fat or to build the physique they want and that's just that's a that's a terrible rabbit hole to go down Because when you start doing that, all you are is chasing the manual Calorie burn right and we want to get to a place where your body is automatically burning those calories to keep you In that shape and it's not mandatory that you get on the treadmill for an hour every single day, but There are people that find that type of exercise is very therapeutic and enjoyable So I also don't want a meditation. Yeah, I don't want to discourage that person If you love to get in the pool and swim 30 to 50 laps a day and it's there So long as it's it's appropriate and you're not overdoing it keep going. Yeah, it's good for you Yeah, and you see yourself man. I love the pool so much out. I could do this for the rest of my life Then then keep it going. That's great. That's enough for you But if you're asking this question because you're trying to to get to this body that you want And you're trying to figure out how much is enough for me to get there Well, you don't need any you could do it all through weight training And it's probably better to do it all through weight training that way Well, I would actually argue that mobility is more important and that would be my angle and that this is this is me also Like going back and I know, uh, you know, this is way back when I was talking about Going through this whole football thing again Like we're old men and we're deciding to play football again And and everybody's trying to get on this hustle to get back in shape and to to get in this cardiovascular shape And I was like trying to tell everybody no like we need to focus on your joints We need to focus on the stability element. We need to focus on You know, like if you're going to twist that's where the the the problem's going to occur Like if you want to do anything fast twitch, you want to have These type of athletic abilities again The the biggest work that you need to put in is to really reinforce the joints because that's what you're gonna Be able to build upon and and to the endurance component of it. Yes, that's great And that's a fun component, but it's something that you can easily get You know For a few weeks if not a month or so of really like getting that back Yeah, no, that's a good point. You know, it's funny. I last week I was interviewed by rich caspari and john romano for their podcast, right? So rich rich caspari if you don't know who he is He was one of the top bodybuilders in the 80s and he was the first bodybuilder To bring cross striations To the stage. So this guy shows up. This is in the 80s and he has Shredded glutes like lines in his butt cheeks, right and it freaked everybody out. So that was caspari He was like the first shredded bodybuilder. You know how much cardio he did during his pre-contest prep Zero he never did cardio and he told me that it's like it's so funny How people think you got to do cardio to burn body fat because I never did cardio ever I did my resistance training and then I would do my diet and that's how I got super shredded And I said, what about stamina? He goes, well, I mean, I don't I wasn't I wasn't trying to get stamina to run long distances He goes, but believe me when I'm doing super sets and giant sets and you know, 20 reps sets of squats I built a lot of heart pumping. Yeah, well, my entire time competing two weeks, dude That's it you did last two weeks Last two weeks and the beauty of that and that's what I try to explain to clients when I would coach them that for Competing is that if you do a really good job of programming right and dieting correctly and building metabolism up It's rad because that last two weeks I can make some serious moves If I can't if I if I was off a little bit like, you know before every show I go, okay I've got 12 weeks until the show I have an idea of kind of where I'm at body fat. I have an idea kind of how my body looks Okay, let's go and I start I start training and I'm and I'm critiquing every week like how I'm shaping up and how my body's changing Let's say I get down to like week three or so and I'm like, oh, shit I'm a little bit heavier a little more more body fat than I should be right now Now all of a sudden I kick up cardio, which I hadn't been doing whatsoever Oh, I mean my body would respond right away versus what you see in the space Is as soon as someone starts their exercise routine They automatically just part of it is 30 minutes to an hour on the treadmill or the stair master And it's like you do know that once you've done that for about two weeks The body is already getting really adapted to it. So the the change that you're looking for from that And then god forbid you stop it Right, exactly. It's so minimal I would rather think that that's something I got in my back pocket that if I really need to ramp up The results in the final two weeks. I got it. And so many times It was like like Grispari would be almost none, you know, I don't I'm walking That was like my cardio would be walking for some steps and I would manage it that way And only if I had to ramp it up for 30 minutes to an hour towards the last two weeks That's great. Look if you like our content, if you think mind pump is informative You will love mind pump free.com. That's where we have all of our fitness guides So we have guides on helping people build muscle target specific body parts So we have guides for arms and shoulders and legs and butt We even have guides for personal trainers. Again, it's mind pump free.com You can also find all of us on instagram So you can find justin at mind pump justin me at mind pump sal and adam at mind pump adam Somebody listening might think oh, that means the first month or two nothing happens. No, no, no We said the scale might not move. That's right. That doesn't mean nothing happened Remember the earlier example of where I said person does it wrong loses 10 pounds But five pounds of muscle five pounds of fat. So they're the same. They're just smaller same body fat percentage What we're talking about is the scale doesn't move