 So I'm always willing to engage and most often I'll engage someone That has a different opinion if you think I'm wrong about something Then that's usually the comment that I'll I'll talk to or about more than those. Hey core. I appreciate what you did You know, I might I may give a little heart Behind that. Have you heard the guy? named Fuego Savi Fuego Savi I actually did I actually did as a matter of fact. Let's put let me let me show you guys something Let me put this on the screen if you type in Corey minor now. These are folks that have had conversation or statements about me dog. Gonna hold on one second. Let me move this over Well, I'm not gonna worry about it. My head will just be in the way But if you let's see, where's it at? Where's the one that the guy said there it is there it is smart christian channel exposed. Corey minor is And he's got the little horns on my head And I'm teaching a damnable heresy because I believe that if you don't have words that you're going to hell that you're not safe I put in the comments. I don't teach that a few moments later Yeah, so first off. I just want to say that it's no disrespect against you personally the video I made I've actually been a fan of you for a while and I just I It's about the gospel. That's the real thing. Okay, because when people start tampering with the gospel in my opinion It's the heaven or hell issue So I I understand your point of view that you say works don't have anything to do with salvation but I mean, uh, that they do play a role in salvation But the truth is that they play no role in salvation at all Well, I don't say they play a role in salvation. They well, okay They don't play a role in becoming saved. Do you believe do you believe that after a person is saved? That the lord wants them to do any sort of works Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. That's the point Now if a person says they if the person said they placed their faith in christ Do you know anyone that's ever said they placed their faith in christ and you're not and maybe you kind of got the Feeling that they they really didn't do you think that there are people out there that are actual false converts? Oh, yeah, all the time but the worst false converts are the people who hear the false gospel The people who hear the wait a second though repent to your sins aren't there people out there that hear the true gospel And still are false converts Yes, there is. Okay. Now are there also people out there that are true converts But aren't sure they are they're doubting their salvation. Are there those out there too? There is yeah, okay What would you tell any one of those two to have a cano for sure that they are saved? What would you what would you say? I would say Jesus christ promised us certain things and he cannot lie John 647 Verily verily I say unto you. Mm-hmm. He that believeth on me had everlasting life Everlasting is eternal. So correct. If you believe in jesus You have eternal life. I get that I get that brother I listen I get that part I get a matter of fact. I preach that I preach that So much so that I've memorized what what it says in the greek, but here's the point though What if a person isn't sure that they believe they're listening I can't I can't tell you how many times someone says I'm not I think I believe but I'm not sure. How do I know if I'm really saved? How do I know if I really believe they know that believing but how do they know that they really believe? So what would you say to them? I would say Everybody knows within themselves what they believe If you believe jesus is the son of god, you you know it in your heart what you believe You either believe or you don't it's it's like a black and white thing it's you either believe it or you don't believe it and it's It has nothing to do with how they live your how they live is worse You're saying you're saying from your standpoint that they know if they believe or they don't They're saying they don't know so you so you cannot tell them that they know There are some folks that do doubt otherwise or ask or here's a question When paul said that every man should examine himself. What did he mean? He said Well, that was that like taking out of context by a lot of false teachers. Okay, he was saying Uh, like they were doubting his apostleship and he was saying Examine yourselves whether you be in the faith Know you know that crisis in you except you be reprobates Like he was saying the proof that i'm an apostle is that you have christ in you, but that's a different thing But no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no back to paul said hold on paul says the proof One of the proofs that paul used to show that he's a apostle was his works Right, yeah, he's miracles at i started the church to so he literally he literally brings up his works Now again, we're not saying that it works made him an apostle and works didn't make him say we we get that point But there are people Who literally are confused about whether they are saved or not they but Is it possible for a person to know To know for a fact that jesus died on the cross for them And to know that they sin that they're a sinner and they needed what jesus did Is it possible for someone to know those three things? And still be unsaved Is it possible for him to know those things? Yeah, and still not be saved Yeah, that they they know jesus is the son of god that he died on the cross And that he resurrected is that way you're saying yeah Yeah, it is possible because now if they don't believe if they don't believe in him Well, hold on hold on because that's where we're going. So these people literally believe That jesus did die on the cross. They believe that they needed him to die on the cross. They believe that he's the son of god I'm sorry for a sec. What do you say? Uh, you just cut out for a sec. What do you say? I'm sorry. I said these people literally believe that jesus is the son of god They believe he died on the cross for their sins. They believe they needed someone to die on the cross for their sins They believe that But they're not True believers is it is it possible for that to happen? You so you're saying yes. So what does it mean to believe? What i'm what i'm saying is that um, i'm not saying that if they believe that jesus died for their sins Then they would be unsafe. What i'm saying is that there's certain satanists and devil worshipers Who literally know the facts of the gospel that jesus christ is the son of god He died on the cross. He rose again. They know that but they're not safe because they don't believe in jesus They don't believe in jesus and i wanted to go back to something we were talking about before Okay, um people people doubting their salvation. So Out of all the people that i've talked to who have doubted your salvation It's a very very small minority of them who think that They might not believe in jesus and that that's why they might not be saved But the vast majority of people who i've talked to who doubt their salvation Doubt their salvation because they think they're not good enough that their lifestyle isn't good enough Let me ask you those are the people who doubt let me ask you a question on a scale of one to ten I don't know you tell me and everyone else on a scale of one to ten How humble would you rate yourself ten being very humble one not very humble at all? Ten being very humble I'll probably rate myself like I mean I don't know I I also We all struggle with pride. So i'm not gonna Even name a number because we all struggle with it all of us The number one sin humans struggle with but You know, I yeah, because if you said if you would have said ten you're not very humble, but Do you do you consider yourself to have at least some humility? Yes, I do. Okay. Cool. Cool. Cool. Uh, you you look pretty young How how are you? How are you? I'm 20? I'm 23. Okay. So let's go over what you just said you say it is in your experience 23 years worth of experience. How long have you been a christian? Uh, five years or I say Five years. Is it possible that your your experience with other believers is a small amount? I would say no because I've like since I became a christian. I've been like pretty hardcore Even when I'm backsliding like At times I've been hardcore about Talking to people about this stuff. So I've talked to A lot of people a lot of people Yeah, and I and I get that when you say but when we say things like a lot of people That can be subjective, right? Somebody I spoke to a lot of people, but it was five people someone spoke to a lot of people and it was a million people You would have to agree You'd have to concede that being young and only being safe for such a short amount of time also Which by the way, I'm glad that you at your young age You are a believer says most most young folks aren't so that so that's a feather in your cap But you have to agree that your your experience Isn't vast and so what I and what I'm trying to understand is that Um as long as I've been talking with people and dealing with people Um in my 30 plus years 30 something years of being a believer The very first time that I got out and started witnessing and sharing the gospel 1991 what were you doing? Uh, I was not much In my dad's uh So at that point in time I've come across a lot of people who just wondered who worried And it wasn't because of sin. It might have been for other other reasons It might because of past things that they've done, right? It might because they don't feel on fire. They don't understand the word enough It's a lot of different reasons, right? What you can't do is get into their mind and say this is why all No, listen, there are a lot of people who doubt their salvation. Now we want to comfort them I don't want folks doubting their salvation And so when someone says hey, is there a way that I can know I always say there's no way definitely There's only two people that's going to know Two people that can analyze this perfectly one god Obviously, he knows if you are you're not and then to you you know what it is that you do what you don't do Now my statement to them is do you We all sin Now tell me if you disagree with anything that I'm saying we all sin When you sin does your sin bother you or are you okay with it? If you're cool with your sin I don't mind listen. I don't mind fornicating. I don't mind lying. I don't mind stealing. I don't mind cheap And I don't mind looking at sin either doesn't bother me at all. Here's the thing here's the thing though unbelievers feel guilt for their sins We're talking about all unbelievers You're saying like You're saying like that's an example of somebody being a true believer But unbelievers feel bad for your sins Muslims feel bad for your sins catholics feel bad for your sins So how can that be an evidence of somebody being saved? You know, I didn't say listen Listen, I'm not saying it's the be all to end all what I'm saying is if a person can sin with impunity Paul brings this up in roman 7 the difference with him versus first first john 3 9 The person that's practicing sinning that person didn't say But paul even uses the word to practice But paul lets us get pills back the onions opens up the curtains Let's see behind the curtains and let's us see that he's talking about his desire His desire is not to do those things if a person desires to sin If they desire to practice sin But they have made a public profession about their faith We might have a problem here We might have a problem here And so it would be my response Are you are you finisher? You have go ahead? Go ahead somebody else to say no go ahead. We can go back and forth. Yeah, so personally, I'm not gonna like get into this debate right now on Kjv only but I believe kjv is the pure word of god. It's the only perfect version of the word of god I'm not gonna go into that, but I'm just gonna say that in that uh first john 3 verse It's it says he that committed sin Which means one sin. Okay, let's go to the way I interpret that verse I interpret that verse as being the new man versus the old man paul constantly exhaust us to Walking the new man put off the old man walking the spirit So, you don't fulfill the lust of flesh No, thank you Go ahead. I'm sorry. Go ahead So, yeah, I just I don't think that um The guilt for your sins or sorrow for your sins is the evidence of being saved because when a catholic or a muslim They feel bad for their sins. I when I before I was saved I felt bad for my sins. I would do things and I would like feel remorse It's not an evidence that somebody saved Okay, now I will share I want to share something this is why I did what you just said didn't didn't really matter about the king james version And so forth about first john 3 9 let me put on the screen W if you can see this in first john 3 9 what I have is the texas receptice And I have the the uh the na 28 The word for practice is the greek word poie if you notice it's the exact same word Okay, so poie is the person that's doing the sin Okay, now if we go to romans eight i'm sorry romans seven If I can type it incorrectly roman 7 and 18 Paul says for I for I know that nothing good dwells in me that is my flesh for the willing And the word for willing is they lain the exact same word in the texas receptice As well as in the na 28 And so paul's point is Whether you use it whether you use the nasb esv or king james version It's literally the exact same greek words we're talking about And so paul is saying it's the desire the person that desires to do wrong That's the person that he's speaking of in first john 3 9 I mean yeah 3 9 if if your desire is to still live how you want to live if there is no change I can't tell you if there's a change in you I don't know if it I can look and see and make a guess but ultimately I don't know All I might just see is you on your bad day seeing peter The day after he denied christ well clearly peter was one of his So I but if I were to make a judgment all that peter he ain't saying But we know better now so I so ultimately my judgment doesn't matter That's why I said it's it's between you and god only you know And there are going to be people according to jesus who will say lord all these different things they they really thought He says I never knew you so it's possible To think you are and not be paul is literally telling them to examine themselves to see if they have christ And so I love you from that verse up to you. I'm sorry. What were you gonna say? I said so a person has a person that has christ They are literally changed on the inside and what does god what does god say? Is going to happen or occur with a person that has the spirit in them? He says god says he will cause them to walk in his teachings and his statues So god says they are going to do something now how much there's no way to know There's I can't compare your fruit with my fruit your works with my work. I can't But james is literally saying hey, you might want to check out you not me I can't check out your work, but you check out your works. I'm not called to check out your works You're not called to check out mine, but you are called to check out your own works You are definitely you say that the holy spirit What's that? I'm sorry. I'm sorry go ahead Would you say that the holy spirit forces you to do anything because once you believe in jesus christ You're sealed with the holy spirit to the day redemption once saved always save But do you believe that that holy spirit that he forces you to do anything or is everything a choice? It's really both you do you do have he has he is not taking away your volition He is not taking away your will Okay, but he but he is working in you now to some to some people more so than others Some people are going to get a greater push from god than others because yeah, we've got a wheel But so too does god and the word that's used in ezekiel Is clear that he is going to cause us now The things that he pushes us to do now how it works. He didn't tell us exactly how it works Because it's clear that we can disobey and still quench the holy spirit But the closer we get to him the more we're in him the more we're going to look like him and actually obey him There are sometimes where we don't obey him. Sometimes, you know what I messed that up today Monday friday thursday, I look nothing like a christian. I look nothing like matter of fact Friday, I look like my old self or on the 15th. I look like everybody's old self that happens Yeah, and so what god does is and I've seen this At least in my experience. I've seen in scripturally. I've seen him take people who are struggling Who who one day they're up tomorrow? They're down next day. They're up next day. They're down I've seen him take those people who are struggling with whatever that that issue is and other people seeing that And say okay good if he can do it. I can do it too He's showing me how to grow with my with my addiction. I'm struggling with porn He's showing me how I can grow because this guy is struggling with porn and he's growing in christ This guy has an anger issue. He's struggling but he's showing me. I have an anger issue too So he's showing me this guy has a lust issue. So we're not we're not going to be perfect And so we're never going to say that these works show us and if anyone is trying to Be saved by their works like paul says in glaceons 5 that person's cut off But the person who recognizes I can't I can't be saved by my works the more I try The more I work at being good the more I show myself how foolish and weak I am However, if I'm new If any and any anyone with a with a spouse or a loved one Their child you are the love the bible says paul says the love of christ compels us Moves us to share him His the fear of him and the love and so there's a pushing in us How much how it works? He hadn't told us All we know is but there's some people who do resist the holy ghost who never listen There's people who get saved and then they just walking the flesh the rest of your lives God punishes him for it on earth because he punishes his children on earth And they get no rewards in heaven But well since you since you brought up matthew 7 21 to 23 I just want to uh, and this is related to the other conversation about false converts I just wanted to Like show you this right here in verse 22 Many will say to me in that day lord lord Have we not prophesied in thy name and in thy name have cast out devils and in thy name done many wonderful works And then while I professed under them I never knew you depart from me ye that work iniquity These are the false converts. These are the people who thought they were christians, but they weren't What was the reason why they were trusting in their works? Have we not prophesied? Why do you say they they they were false converts because they were trusting in their works? Because when they stood before christ on judgment day They used their works as evidence. This is what the calvinus say that your works are your evidence of your salvation and This is a perfect example of people using evidence as their salvation and Jesus says I never knew you depart from me Ye that work iniquity because everybody's a worker of iniquity and You know like only people who are children of god are not workers of iniquity. Well, hold on. Hold on What we got what we what we have to do then Is we can't say the reason why we can't say that they weren't saved Uh because they trusted in their works Is because that's not what the bible says We got to go what jesus says let's put on screen. Jesus says it does say though, but it does say Well, it says then and then I will declare to them. I never knew you Depart from me. You who practice law is this why why weren't they saved? He says I never knew you it wasn't the the lawless practicing that they were doing Because they also because because guess what it also he also verifies that they did some good things too It's not the work that took him away and we and we couldn't say that they were trusting in their works They thought that the words were something but what was jesus's ultimate response? I never knew you So and if you go before that He says but he that do with the will of my father, which is in heaven the real reason they didn't enter Is yeah, because he never knew him, but They didn't do the will of the father, which is in heaven and matt uh john 640 reads Well, hold on wait a second. Well, we got a problem now. We have we have we have a we got a flag on the field We got a problem the very same word the very same word that's used for practicing lawless not in this passage but in in first john poye is This very same word the very same word that jesus uses of them in 721 Look what it says not everyone says to me lord lord will enter the kingdom of heaven So not everybody who says lord not everyone the cause of the christian is Uh will enter but so who will but he who does and the word for does is the word for making or doing Is the word poye or the or the doing one the one that's doing the will of my father who was in heaven So So are we saying that they have to do something also are we are we saying that those that Are those that are doing something? What is the doing that they have to do? Is john 640 jesus told us what the will of the father was right here It reads in john 640 And this is the will of him that sent me that everyone which seeeth the son and believe it on him May have everlasting life and i will raise him up at the last day So the will of the father Is for us to believe in jesus christ and have everlasting life. Thank you So you just nullified your point the one that is believing jesus says i never knew you So if you believe if that's what you're doing if you're believing Then you are saved they weren't unsafe or they weren't saved or not saved because they were trusting in works No, they may have been trusting works, but his point is they never believed they never knew him That's jesus point if you know, so if i know you if i know jesus And i still think that There is some There's some works i gotta do and i might be confused I knew people that believe that i'm saved But i gotta i gotta tear it for the holy spirit. I gotta go speak in tongues. I gotta this they were confused But they were certainly saved as a matter of fact, they were torn because they were taught wrong You can be taught wrong and go to heaven You can get it wrong and go to heaven as long as you get the main thing right that is you place your one thing Huh, yes, but I what I would argue is that People who have always believed in works salvation They're not believers. They're not children of god. They haven't believed in jesus. How do you know? and Because they haven't believed in His promise if you believe in jesus christ You believe that you receive eternal life because he died for your sins They haven't believed that promise. They think oh, I need to repent of my sins or prove that i'm saved by Doing these works or any type of work surrender or obedience. I need to do this They're not believing in jesus. They're believing in their works and they they were never believers What what what caused you what caused you to get saved? What caused me to get saved well my testimony Very very short basically I was like just researching different truths about the world and Seeking the truth and I came across some guy who kept talking about jesus so I One of the books that only have the four gospels in them and I just started reading All four gospels And I was just like wow, this is the truth like jesus really is the son of god. I believe in him Like that's how I got saved. Do you think the lord was at work in your heart? What what role was at work? Okay, so the lord so is is he ultimately responsible for your belief? Is he ultimately no, he's not he's not responsible for your belief He's he drew me to him, but it was a choice. It was a choice. Okay, but was it was who reject Was it his choice to draw you after you you chose or did he choose you first? Who chose who first? Who are you? Well, the bible says that uh all men will be drawn drawn to him. So god draws all men No, no, okay You who but you came to christ or you placed your faith in christ Who drew who first did you draw yourself to him and then he chose you or Did he do the choosing first and then you chose in other words? What changed your heart to make you decide to place your faith in christ? well God drew me to him, but the bible says god draws all men Okay, I won't go over that particular passage because I because we'll be here forever Um, it is it the drawing of all men if I be lifted up and I'll draw all and it's not all in terms of everybody But it's it's literally the all manner of men, which he's speaking of But It's clear that the very first thing that has to happen before you place your faith in christ Is that he's got he's going to do a work in your heart in order for you to keep believing but You believed the lord was at work This other person believed the lord was at work But he just so happened to be around the wrong teacher a teacher that he places faith in christ knew what the lord did And then he joined a church follow me Just like you You place your faith in christ You're looking for a church home You go to a church and this church teaches that you have to keep working to stay safe Yeah, he's still saved Okay, so you place your faith in christ you're believing you're safe. How long are you saved? Forever But then you go to a church because it's your first day being saved your third day being saved And you go to a church they seem like good people But they're teaching that you have to work to be saved and you believe it. Are you are you now unsaved? Nope, you're still saved. You just nullified your entire argument Because I was that I was that nullifying it because you just said you're saying you got saved on monday Sunday you go your first day being saved you go to a church That teaches that you have to keep working to stay safe You believe them. Mm-hmm. Monday. You were saved Sunday, are you unsaved? No Even though you're at a church that that's teaching flawed teaching a flawed doctrine You no longer unsaved How does that how does that nullify? Because you said that anyone that believes that they're they're of the devil. They have they they believe the false gospel They can't be saved. No, no I don't want I don't want you to uh, like misunderstand me like okay There's tons of christians who are genuine believers Who have gotten deceived by these false teachers and they're still saved And god's chastising him trying to bring them back to the truth and like You know I think you might be one of them too. Like I I honestly don't think that You've crossed that line where you're a false prophet. I don't think that you put horns in my head though So it looked like it Yeah, the reason The only reason I put horns on your head is because When somebody's preaching a false gospel, I want to make it very clear how serious this is Like it's not just oh He's a little bit mixed up, but you you should still listen to him I want to make it very clear that this is heaven or hell. These I really do care about people's souls What can I have it can I go Let me give you some let me let me let me let me just give some some some big brotherly wisdom If I if I could it may not be wise It might be though, uh, and then I got I got to go ahead and let you go But listen and by the way, I appreciate you coming on. I really do A lot of folks wouldn't do it, but let me just give you let me just give you this Assume that you've got a lot more to learn I do. I know I do. Yeah, I definitely do and so because of that because of your young age Also the the relatively short amount of time that you've been saved Don't go so far to condemn the other person to hell because they don't believe or see it just like you or Or even if you're right because they haven't gotten to your level yet Assume that there is going to be some grace that God is still working in and remember You and I aren't this aren't the Holy Spirit. We're not working in that person That person can go around the world 10 times and finally get it right A lot of us have seen the brother young Don. He's gone from here to here to here to here And who knows where he's going to happen And I said I said listen we're gonna leave him alone because he's he's stopping off at every bus stop And who knows the lord is going to eventually move him along. He's only been saved less than a year So what is guy going to do with him? Imagine if he's really yearning to grow in the lord and I think he is Then what's going to happen to him in five years in 10 years in 20 years? He's not going to be the same person that he was in 2023 the same thing for you in 2030 you you won't be called. I promise you probably won't be called for you Oh savi you'll go by your real name and you'll be and you'll be a different person You are going to grow in wisdom and intelligence the further you grow as well as spiritually And so I would say don't be too dogmatic Don't be too too quick to cast someone out and and and put the horns on them call them a false teacher What do you want to do? What do you want to do is make sure that people know that if you place your faith in christ Then you are saved if you don't do all the works that you want to do like paul says I keep messing up. I keep sending. What was paul's focus in roman 7? His works. I messed but My desire is different indicating my heart is what does and the bible tells us how we should behave And so what we want to do? Whether we're free grace lordship salvation dispensational cavernous. What have you what we want to do? Is be just like the picture of the christian in the bible? And if a person isn't if they think different they think wrong You know what? Let me see if I can talk with that person. Let me go see if I can change or let me see if I might be wrong But you don't want to get in the habit of Castigating this person so much so that you condemn them the hell And like I said in using the analogy that I did with you That person can still be saved So what is happening is other folks to your video And you said that person's going to hell I didn't say you're going to hell. I didn't say no. No. No. No. No. No. What what I'm saying is if you say It's a it's a damnable doctrine. Well, what does damnable mean? Damnable means they are damned to hell. And so somebody else see you go this far with it Somebody else won't come and take the next list distance Someone like let's say a a laden flowers Love them to death But if he teaches all everything that's wrong with calvinism The next person that watches the video is going to come with come with the conclusion that Calvinists are all devils. They're going to hell, right? He may not mean that He doesn't intend for to go that way But other folks that are listening to them are going to take it to that next level So I'm saying now you might be right But make sure you have as much grace and mercy in what you're saying and that you first Investigated that we've had the conversation if you and I had this conversation Would you put the horns on my head then? Uh, yeah, if you still this is why I wanted to get to like before we go I just wanted to get to this To see if I still would have put the horns on your head. Okay, so the back the back loaded work salvation gospel This is the greatest threat to the body of Christ today because people are saying Yes, you're saved by grace. It's all grace alone And then you will have good works You will if you don't it's just proof that you're not saved. It's evidence that you're not saved But if you don't have I'm well in the clip but I'm just going to finish my point is what people are saying is that that if you don't have the works as evidence some change life some obedience Some turn sorrow for your sins. These are all works and That makes a requirement to be saved that adds that to the gospel the gospel is the good news and The back loaded work salvation gospel is what creates false converts. It's what makes people doubt your salvation it leads people to hell because it is a false a cursed gospel and It really is something extremely serious and Listen bro, like I like you a lot as a person I Out of all the people I've exposed on my channel I personally like you the most. I've been a fan. Did you really expose me? Yeah, yeah, I did okay Listen to this. Listen to this. This is what I want you to listen to the first time. Listen to this. Here it is. Let me back it up Okay, or not important is someone that is too excited about just giving a simple mental ascent And have not studied the scriptures now if anyone tells you that your salvation is based on your works Also as a person who has put too much emphasis on themselves and not given enough attention to the scriptures You must have faith if you never show an ounce of work Uh, but you have legitimate faith legitimate faith and you are saved the court. Did you hear that? Yeah, I did hear do you agree with that? But do you agree with that? I do agree with that But my response to that will be that I've heard like some of the worst heretics alive Say good things like that like really good things a hundred percent true Like I've heard Paul washer even say stuff gets completely true But then in another breath He'll say something different. So I I don't know if that's what you consistently say Or I haven't I haven't changed my my opinion. I said listen Faith is the most important thing. Do I believe works are important? Sure Do works do works prove your salvation? No, they don't Do you want to have works? Yes, you do. Why because the bible little tells us we are we are here To to do some works We are his hand. Yeah, we actually should okay, so when you so so my point is my point is Dismiss with the horns and you keep the horns on me, but off other people just if you disagree This is why I disagree or give a caution Anyone that is a Christian And doesn't want to do works. Well, then what what's happening with you was what's going on with you? Maybe you are to be a slothful Slothful Christians listen make the flesh one of three things. You're the greatest christian ever You're not a very good christian or you're not a christian those only three options You're a great christian still you're not a very good christian or you're not a christian One of those three things now I don't know but my point is Investigate thoroughly make sure that you understand the person's argument Because if you're still putting hand of horns on my head and saying that I'm teaching a works based salvation No, I'm teaching a salvation based works. I'm teaching a faith based works Not a works based faith faith that will move my works if you don't show works ever Listen, if you don't show works ever you can still be saved. That's not what I'm saying I'm saying listen, you know the problem with the world is Like jesus said let your light so shine that men will see your faith No, that men will see your good works and then glorify god. The problem is us as believers Us as believers don't show works like we're supposed to What does it do to be saved keep it to yourself and go to heaven? Why everyone goes to hell you are not you but anyone else if anyone feels that way you are an Loving person you cannot say you love the lord according to jesus in first time You cannot say you love the lord and not love your brother If you don't love him you don't if you don't love your brother You don't love him if you don't love him then you're not saved. What's an indication of salvation? love Do we get saved by Did john 3 16 say For god so of the world that gave his only begun son that whosoever loved with him Will not perish but have everlasting life. How do you know you love him? That's the point. Okay. Listen, it all goes together You must believe how do you know you believe? How do you know you're his? He literally tells you in first John. Listen, it's not like that. This don't go with that They go together How do you know you now you think that people don't know that they believe you think everyone should everyone knows if they believe or not I'm telling you In my 51 years 30 something years in ministry and seeing people I've seen people who doubted their own salvation The book of hebrus is a book to christians Jewish christians who were doubting And he's trying to comfort them Jesus himself Jesus himself says to the disciples who were doubting peter john Bartholomew badeus They were doubting What does Jesus say? He says don't lose heart He says i'm going to prepare a place for you and i'm coming back Why because they were doubting he wants them to to not doubt to be a good cheer. So the point is this They're going to come point in time when you do doubt people do doubt legitimate christians do doubt And they wonder am am I really safe? John the baptist Had a moment of doubt. Are you really? Are you the one? Well doggone it john. What did you see matter of fact y'all go and tell john what what you all have seen too So People are going to have these moments of doubt you and I will at some point in time Am I really safe? Did I just say some words? Was there just I was there in the crowd and I felt good about it So what do I do? I want to know and so all throughout the bible If you don't if you didn't understand his point in john 316 If you didn't understand his point in Matthew 7 if you didn't understand his point in 1st Corinthians Then maybe you'll understand it in Ephesians. Maybe you'll understand in flippings. Maybe you'll understand in 1st john He gives it to us so many different ways Ultimately if you love him he says you you have to love them He he literally says if you don't love them then you don't love me And if you don't love them if you don't love him, are you saved? No? So the point is that you don't get saved by love though There's no verse in the bible that says that you're saved by loving people or by loving god That because jesus said that fulfills the works of the law Love is the works of the law. We're not saved by the works of the law and And the reason why I made the video on you is because you said You said how do we verify that we're his meaning we're saved you said by how we live How we live his works of the law because If you don't steal you're not a thief You're living that life that work of the law, you know, it goes with everything in life and you said What's that is it pop? So if you don't if you don't love the lord Are you safe? there's people who can get saved and then Lose love for the lord. Yeah Here's what he says first john 4 7 beloved Let us love one another for love is from god and everyone who loves is born of god and knows god The one who does not love does not know god for god is love You cannot then come back and say that you that if a person doesn't love god And they can still be safe. No that very same person implicit in believing is loving god Your that verse says that person does does not know god It's talking first john is a book about our fellowship with god It's about our fellowship our relationship Calvinists and other false teachers will take First john and they will use it as a test to see if you're saved by your words. That's not what it's about It's about you know god You don't you don't like Calvinists and so they're false teachers if they place their faith in christ Are they are they are they safe? If if they repent of their believing in Perseverance of the saints then yeah So see here's here's a problem here's a problem You and this is this is what I want you to do you take it if you take it or not You're going to have to grow up a little bit and stop condemning folks who don't believe what you believe If a person places their faith in christ they're safe now You just say it if they also believe though in perseverance of the saint well then I say You keep well think about rich means all through this Brother that and that and that's a problem That is I want you to think about this though. I want you to think about this Who was the greatest threat to jesus christ ministry? It was the Pharisees. No, they were going to work salvation. No, no, no Can I tell you who's the greatest threat to his to his ministry? Nobody nobody Nobody I mean the greatest and not a threat an enemy My bad on that but the greatest enemy to his ministry was the Pharisees All of us all of us All of us were I mean the people the people who came against him the hardest Who who tried to stop him at every turn? It was the Pharisees the work salvationists When paul's ministry started Who was the greatest threat to paul the judeizers the work salvationists? Okay, this is i'm telling you bro This is the greatest threat to the church today And it's creeping in it's exponentially growing So it's it's getting out of control. What what is the greatest? What is that see? With all due respect in your five years of being saved in 23 You don't know that but what did jesus say that you must do love the lord with all your heart Love the if you do not love him you're going to hell You say you believe in them that mean that doesn't mean anything, but you better love them That's what I love the law though. Huh? That's that's works of the law. All right. All right Let me let me do this, bro. I'm gonna go ahead and let you go because I've got to go ahead and get out of here I appreciate you coming on my friend. Um, we can we just go stay in touch. You got my email. Um, brother state. Stay blessed guys The problem is and listen listen. He's young. He is young, which is fine Which is fine. He's going he's going to grow But if anyone tells you That you don't have to love the lord when he says you have to love them You have to love them As a matter of fact, he tells us He tells us The first one of the first he says love the lord with all your heart your mind body. So if you don't love him You're not his you don't know him. He went to matthew seven and says Jesus says I never knew you never knew you First john says that if you don't love him, you don't know him. He didn't know you