 So I missed this. I remember watching it and I think that I shared it on Twitter But I really wanted to talk about this with you all on stream, but I never did but now I'm gonna do it So back in August of 2021 David Fakman got a call from somebody who was absolutely ruthlessly dragging all of independent media David Fakman TYT and also myself, but I think that nobody was dragged as much as myself and What this person says about me as you're going to see is incredibly substantive It's a very valid critique of me. So let's go ahead and watch from the beginning By the way, David Fakman's reaction is just it's hilarious caller who called one two three four Four times in a row could be something. Let's see Just wanted to let you know I'm openly challenging any Left-wing debater to a debate. I am not a right-winger. I am far left In fact, I believe I live left while other people just talk about it He's way way way more leftist than all of us because we might talk about being leftists He lives left. Okay. He lives like a leftist every day So you already know where this is going like it already is seemingly unhinged, but let's just listen longer I would like to debate TYT, but they are very much dodging me after the crowders They're dodging him Debacle my senses TYT has no idea who this guy is where no one would devout our Prouder wasn't about today's theater because There's no reason my little channel shouldn't debate. I think Chris Vosh wants to debate this guy So then he called right back again So, I'm sorry Stephen I could one more time. I just want to finish these things I'm saying is like, you know the shirts that you wear you actually advertise and prop up that company I don't know if it is or if it isn't but is that recycled materials? I'm sorry, but if you're not living As a leftist by making sure that every article of clothing that you have is made of recycled materials Then you're a bad leftist like wouldn't somebody who's This much of a strong progressive know that there's no ethical consumption under capitalism Like even if you get something that was made of recycled materials that labor that made that particular material is going to be likely Exploited worker. I mean, this is really like this is the situation where you have to say Please touch grass, but it gets even better. Oh my god You could do that, you know, you can wear recycled clothes I might just wear a trash bag. Actually, and there you go yourself and your own life as David Patman to do the things that I can tell you that are simple in your own life to make the change I don't see one less greenhouse doing that I'm actually I'm currently weaving pants from all the bamboo fibers that they're pulling off the ballots in the Arizona Arden The humanist report. Do you know how much petroleum goes into the tattoos that he has? I'm gonna have to talk to Mike from This guy's the best the petroleum footprint of his of his tattoos. Oh My god That cannot be real. Please clip it guys that okay. How do you know that the ink isn't made From, you know, sustainable chemicals and what How do you think of this shit How do you think of this shit out of all of the you know co2 contributors? You know when you know that there is 100 corporations that contribute to 71% of global greenhouse gas emissions This dude is like, you know what it's the petroleum that That goes into the ink for your fucking tattoos Guilty is charged. Okay. I indeed have tattoos. I'm a climate criminal I love David Packman's reaction. By the way, it just makes the clip something else Let's I can't tell if this is real let's see a little bit more part of me thinks that he's memeing like I think that he I'm like torn. I don't know maybe check and help me out I think he's probably memeing overall like I don't know if he's being real Although the fact that he called and left multiple messages for David back then That leads me to believe that maybe he is a little bit psycho and unhinged, but there's also it's so ridiculous There's got to be a chance that he's memeing. Yeah, exactly kiwi bird left Leftism is when no tattoos when Azan no house and when Mike no tattoos, right? Mike tats lead directly to World War four. Thank you for pointing it out Somebody had to say it, but you all aren't ready for that conversation. Are you? like Is that not vanity bro all of those everything is vanity of course tattoos are vanity But if you get a haircut, that's vanity if you shave your face, that's vanity the clothing that you wear is vanity What's your point? Can you not be like conscious about yourself image and want to boost your own confidence by dressing a certain way and presenting yourself as a certain way But you're a bad leftist if you if you don't do it like it's such a it's such an absurd argument It has to be fake like he has to be joking. I refuse to believe that this is a serious person Well, my tattoo carbon footprint is zero. I have no tattoos that are causing The resources to be sucked dry off of this planet every lady who puts on makeup every single day That's petrol base doesn't want to take responsibility for the soldiers that dies across feet Stop putting makeup on your face men stop Making these women feel like they have to put makeup on their faces. Are you so this is getting really edgy so then he immediately called Right back Hey, David last message your message three the last thing I want to say is I will go to a TYT live chat And I will say what I just told you and they silence me on that channel Well, if it's it's like 10 pages to transcribe it is like 10 pages It probably was a wall of text you wouldn't stop we'd have to do the same thing Okay, and if you if you spam the same thing on YouTube it will automatically hold that as spam So like every single youtuber has a key has been accused of deleting comments But people don't realize that Most of us don't look at the comment section to the extent that we do we're not policing our comment section Like I think I've had to delete like two comments in my entire YouTube career because they had slurs in them But These are getting picked up by spam like if you are spamming the same thing or you're posting like a giant wall of text with like 10 paragraphs the spam filter is going to pick that up and the reason why it goes away forever is because most of us don't have Time to check our spam filter. So if I go to my spam filter, there's like a hundred thousand messages held for spam I can't review all them because whenever I try to You know, you could check the box and then like approve like 50 or a hundred on a page But it just freezes. There's there's too much like it. It's a bad system admittedly, but that's probably why they're deleting your comment It's not getting deleted. It's just you're spamming and the automated filters are picking that up And the last that is a problem dude huge problem And also why are you calling me about TYT? I have nothing to do with you It really silence me. I follow every TOS rule. I am never disrespectful I am literally nicer than Dan Bailey was to Tucker Carlson to these people with the exception of saying I will decimate them in a debate That's it. And that's not ban worthy. We all know it's not So what I'm trying to get out here is what happens when they do that So I don't feel comfortable on a left-wing channel. I can't say what I feel and it's Well, hold on what happened there? It's from a left-wing channel. So what happens to people like that? Like, where am I left to go? You know, like this is how you so like you can only watch a particular channel If they'll accept your debate invitation. Do you know how many debate invitations leftist political commentators get from like random? nobody's Like nobody on the left would have time for anything So I don't understand why you can't enjoy something unless you engage with it Like I'm a huge fan of h3 podcast, right? I would love if Senpai Ethan Klein noticed me love him But he has not and I have never interacted with Ethan Klein I haven't debated Ethan Klein, but I can still enjoy the content. This is so weird It leads me to believe that he's not that petulant, right where it's like No, I I demand the attention in order to consume the content. The dude's got to be trolling I hope he's trolling. Otherwise his brain is just genuinely rotten To the right is because I literally look at it and go wow The left I don't know what is he saying that as a left winger who's mad at left wingers He's not allowed to chat and so now everybody's on the right as a result Maybe they do not want to listen to me. Where is my choice to go to the right? Who are you like why do we have to listen to you? Why are you entitled to us listening to you? Look at the twitch chat. I can I'm talking to all of them. I'm listening to them I see Tim Bob Gamer G Hilda beast artillery joined in Gamer G like it's not like we avoid people I'm talking to people right now It's not like we like put ourselves in a in a bubble and we're insulated from anyone talking to us Like somebody can walk into the chat right now and call me a fuckhead. I'd have no control over that So like what are you talking about? Like you have to talk to us like through Skype one-on-one I just don't understand. It's it's such a weird demand to make Look at yourself and go, you know what man? I should do this man. I'm gonna do that You know what tomorrow is David Pacman. I'm gonna buy a recycled shirt wear it on That's it. That's all we got to do man. It is not hard You know listen to the real left. We are the Minstual portion of this listen. This is my official response to this individual up yours woke moralists We'll see who cancels who yeah So if I had to guess I don't think that David Pacman is wearing recycled shirts And like I haven't gotten any tattoos in a long time like since the pandemic But is the request that I removed the tattoos and like this is why these types of Attacks on people for being climate criminals. It doesn't make sense like you're distracting from the real issue And it's why I'm torn about like calling out celebrities like Kylie Jenner for taking 12 minute private jet rides Even though that's clearly horrible and she's contributing to the problem like do you call that out or would you rather spend that time? You know criticizing The 100 corporations that are responsible for 71% of greenhouse gas emissions I mean perhaps this guy might say you could do both. Okay, that's fair You know you can call out the tattoos that I have I'm not the only one with tattoos But genuinely do you honestly think that people are going to? Accept your argument or be open to hearing from you when you you say things like take off that makeup Why do you have tattoos? Why aren't you wearing a recycled shirt like it's clown shit? So maybe this is why people won't talk to you. It's it's so weird But again, I don't know. This is real. I hope it's a troll if it is a troll It's a good troll because he's like seemingly keeping it all together like I would probably laugh but seems like this is I don't I don't know I'm 50 50 chat You'll let me know if you think this is real or not But either way like this if this is a real person who's being serious This is a fucking clown and you have to touch grass You have to like log off and you have to touch grass get laid like do something take up a hobby because this is fucking Stupid you're telling David backman wear recycled shirts like come on like It's so it's so stupid and petty World and the problem is There is propaganda. All right, and then he promised that was his last call But he did call back again with full three minute call He's already David Steven after one more time. Just I can't discuss these things with you call We can have this discussion on air. I wasn't getting that impression Either way, I am in the last few messages. What is there even to discuss? You know, it's This frustration of being shunned by a left-wing site and feeling like you have nowhere to go with the real information I just Really need you nobody shunning you nobody knows who you are Nobody knows who you are That We have to have this discussion on there We have to get to the bottom of these issues and make people accountable on an individual level We just cannot sit around and wait for policymakers now It's not getting the job done and the point of this last message is man TYT's Moderators are calling me a paid red-wing troll dude. I think what they're moderate. I can't have I have nothing to do with TYT or TYT's moderators I have no way to adjudicate any of what is being said. It has nothing to do with my show It's just like come on guys, please please By the way, this is a funny contrast to that last one I'm thinking about it right now actually why do you interesting you should bring that up? I'm that it's it's it just occurred to me Okay, I've got to say For some reason it makes me want to go in the opposite direction and start doing voice mails because that's that's gold That content is absolutely gold That's good stuff so folks I will admit I am a climate criminal because I have tattoos But I'm a double climb a climate criminal because I have no idea if this shirt is made from recycled materials I don't know. I haven't looked at the tag. I I don't know. I don't even remember where I bought this shirt from I have no idea my glasses may also be made from unsustainable materials like the expectation here like this is almost like The the like hippie equivalent of evangelicals like when I was younger and growing up Christian Every little thing that I did was hyperanalyzed where it's like, oh, you're playing that video game and it has ghosts in it That's evil because there's no such thing as ghosts because there's had it in hell There's no in between so like every little thing is analyzed and he wants to like do this but For like the left where it's like, oh, well, what's that that you're wearing? What's that food that you're eating? What's that like fucking, you know Shoes that you're wearing. This is not going to win people over. Nobody wants to live their life that way Okay, you have to push for macro changes not micro changes and to the extent that we can make better Decisions at the individual level sure we should but you're not gonna do that by shaming people that never works ever But yeah, I had to share that because that is just I feel like that's gold and I'm so mad at myself for forgetting to talk about that but now I am and God bless David Pakman for keeping a straight face for most of that his reaction was fucking just hilarious Jenna the way was exposed. I let her have her way