 Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E-C-E-O, and I'm here with the official Miss Jamaica. You already know. What? Check it, man. Hey, man, we in here, man, we got a... Man, I'm in front of two beautiful ladies, man. I'm doing my thing today. I'm gonna just let y'all in on the secret, nigga. I'm over here having a good time. Hey, man, so when I had first... I was talking about the best rappers in East Texas. Let's go and get it popping. And some names came up. And when the names came up, this young lady, I don't know, she just came straight across the screen. People were like, oh, yeah, you need to get with this one. I said, really? Say, man, look out, man. Smita Hawkins in the building. What's going on, baby? What's up? I'm good. How you doing? Man, I'm doing good now. Period. I'm doing good now? That's what we like to hear. So, man, listen, man, how long have you been in the game, man? I've been rapping three years. I've been taking it serious for the last two. I was looking for stuff on you, and I couldn't really just, every time I look, it's like, where's the stuff at? I know, right? But I know already you've been working. I've seen some ciphers, and I heard the lyrics, and it's seasoned. So I'm just trying to figure out, so, is it something happened, or is it that you're just putting out, are you revamping everything? What's going on? Yeah, I'm rebranding myself. I mean, I have my two freestyle videos that's still up, but I took out all the old stuff, and, you know, because, you know, working with new people, and I just want my sound to be good when you hear me, and stuff like that. So, yeah, I just wanted to, you know, rebrand myself, come back a little better, and more cleaner, and, you know, more precise. Well, let's back it up a little bit, and I'll always do this. Just kind of, let's go back into who you are, where you're from. Let's start right there. Okay, well, I'm from East Texas, originally from Longstor, but I reside in Longview, Texas, so I get a little from Longstor in Longview. Yeah, I really do. Longstor. Yeah, you know, look at that. Longstor Steel, up there, we got bread and everything behind Longstor Steel, man, stop playing. My papa worked there. Where is that? Yo, papa worked there. My home boy, Mickey, shout out, Mickey Sheppard, what's up, baby? That's down there where they be laying niggas off all the time, you know, niggas don't get a lay off every time you go down there, you get a job, next thing you know, you at the house, but they pay you good when you're there. Am I right now? Oh, I've been, see, I'm from East Texas, real time. Yeah, so, and everything that's coming out of East Texas is gonna rip right through here. Ain't no games. You know what I'm saying? It's love right here. I'm in East Texas, hard head. Everything I do come from there. We got it, we got it, man. So we got to handle up. So this long-star steel thing got you stuttered. I mean, it's a steel plant, right? And basically you- Is that a long view? No, long-star. Oh, that's the name. It's right, yeah, it's right there. It's in the vicinity, long view, Jefferson, all that. It's right in, it's right in the, you been through there? She just don't know it. She been through there. Oh, yeah. You know, it all started coming together on you. You ride down through there and don't even realize you don't went through the city. This is a small little pop. Very small. Yeah, you go through Hallsville and all that. I take you through all them back roads all the time down there. 2208, yeah. You them beings, you don't know. So you love East Texas. Have you ever thought about moving to Dallas? No. Ooh, ooh, ooh. Well, I have thought about moving to Dallas, but I'm leaning more towards Houston. No, I better not do it. Really? Uh-uh, don't get lost in the South. We need you. I want to be in East Texas. Listen, I'm telling you- Everybody in East Texas don't want to be down there. Think about- I'm going to still rap it heavily. No, no, I'm not saying I get it, but I'm just saying think about it. Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Atlanta, you know, you can do a lot of stuff, right? So let me ask, why Houston over Dallas? Music wise, Houston over Dallas. And when I look at my percentages and ratings and stuff, that's where it more lenient to Houston. Got you. So the analytics pretty much showed that you- Houston and Dallas are the top. Top. But Houston sorta beats Dallas. As long as it's at the bottom. So that's why I'm like- Yeah, but a profit is without honor in its own country, baby. Listen, that ain't got nothing to do with me. Like, I'm just telling you, they won't- Don't shout out East Texas and they get their shout out. Yeah, but they, you know, when you're at home, I'm gonna be honest with you, it's a lot of time. It's a lot of hate come from people because they see you doing something that they want to be doing and they scale themselves off for you. Because I just want to see them win. Yeah, I know that, but you already won in their eyes. So they're like, dang, man, why she get to go? You remember when you was a kid and the parent take one of the kids and the other one be there and they ask the same question. Why they taking him? They want to go. So they just see you and they just want to be where you at a lot of time. I'm being real. And they trying to trick you out just by probably, you gotta watch these niggas. They're witches. Yeah, yeah. Woo, they worshiping. They worshiping to try to get you out of there. They probably is, I ain't- But I mean, you gotta be getting some love because when I hear her, is it just straight the fact that you dropping like that so hard that they can't deny it? Because when I talk to people down there, they put you in that number one spot. It's the older people that you're talking about. Really? I bet your- So the young folks don't do that? Not too much. Or they see somebody that they know do it and they just do it, just piggy bank off of that type stuff. Because I mean, I've been doing it. I mean, I was the type of artist where I only tag like 12 people. I never was the type to tag 30 to 90 people. Like if it's gonna get shares, it's gonna get shares. If you share it, you share it. Like, I ain't gonna beg you to do this, so beg you to do that. Because I mean, if you don't like it, you don't like it, shit. It's a lot of main artist stuff that people don't like and I don't wanna force you to like something that you don't like. But I mean, I just now that like stuff be- And I'm- If don't nobody else support me or promote me, I know she gonna promote me. He gonna promote me and I'm gonna promote me type shit, so like. Yeah, I don't really too much. Everything that I've done, I've been doing by myself as is, so I really don't like. But you'd be surprised about people in front of your face. A lot of people will seem to be hating, like they're not gonna congratulate you, they're not gonna give you big props, but behind your back, talking to other people, they probably are talking good stuff about you, but they just don't wanna, some people say they don't wanna give you a big head, so they're not gonna be trying to tell you. Well, that's hypocrisy. How have you stated word? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, they're hypocrites. Because you have a lot of people who do that. I feel like don't do that, don't, don't, I don't know, well, I try not to think of that, really. I try not to even think about who supports me or not and who don't, because if you gon' do it, you gon' do it. So like, I just wanna make good music, man. That's all you should do. I love the music too. What I did find, I loved, you know, like the cyphers and it was one more song. Girl, let me tell you what that song was, cause I've been in it, banging it whole, banging it. Really? Yeah, all morning. Oh my goodness, it is fun. Yeah, that whole go hard too. You talking about the, Pigeon Straight In. Pigeon Straight In. Oh Lord, it's a video to that. I seen it, yeah. I was all through there, I didn't know what was going on. I was mesmerizing, I was in Africa. All straight in. My motherland. Yeah, you took me there right now. I'm just being real, you did your thing, man. Thank you, I appreciate that. And the lyrics on point, the cadence right, and you know, cause I'm a critic now, you know, and I've seen what you're doing, man. I love it to be honest with you. I'm just, you know, it's something else. And cause I had, you know, I had Smooty on here the other day and y'all two of the two that they told me was the number one spot holders down there. Smooty, my nigga, that nigga just pulled up on me and just did his thing right here, just like y'all did. But it didn't take long. I'm like, nigga, where you at? He like, I'm on my way. Never knew me before that. But now, now we talk every day. As you should. He's like, damn, this nigga, yeah. It's just sometimes you click with people like that and you don't see it coming, but it's like, damn. Hey, I'm like, what the hell? All these young niggas though, I be, yeah, we be talking like it goes down and that's because it's love. They know it's genuine love. And so that's what you gotta have. You can't be hating and you can't be, and I'm trying to find a way to breathe. Why you and Smooty ain't did nothing together? Y'all both got the number one spot according to the people that I didn't talk to. I'm screaming. Yeah, I put it all the way out there. I don't know why, I don't know. Y'all need to link up for East Texas. I mean, it could. Smooty, I'm gonna hit you up after I give it to the interview boy. I'm trying to figure out what's going on. He ain't hard to find. I know it. Nah, me and him cool. Like we got each other numbers, like me and him talking shit like that. When is it gonna happen? I don't know. That's what I'm trying to figure out. I'm trying to finish my project right now. I feel like once I finish my project, I'll be able to work with other people, vice versa. So you ain't working with nobody? Not really. You haven't did no, have you did features? I seen one feature, didn't I? Have you featured with anybody? Um, I think I did see it. If he stuff with that, so there's, so I'm just saying nobody. Nobody. Yeah, it just. It ain't worth talking about. Mm-mm, that ain't gonna work. Well, let me go back to that song you were talking about. Where did the inspiration of that song come from? And the video, video more than anything. I love the video. It's like, that was like my personality. That was like a personality song. Like it was like my first time ever like getting in the booth and just freestyling. Cause I'm not even, I'm not even a freestyler, but that was pretty cool. I got into my little mode and I did that. And I don't know, like I love chicken. You like that, Popeyes or which one you like? That was, uh, that was another, uh. Little spot down there? Yeah, down there. But my favorite chicken is Southern Classic. Southern Classic and Shreveport. I think I done ate it. I think I done ate it. Oh holly. You like that better than Popeyes? What? Yes ma'am. Look at that. She's don't show no need. Well, you know, we'll pull up. Girl, yes ma'am. I get two roles every time. Diddy on hollywood, I know. We thank the Lord for them every time. We vlog every time we go there. You really? I had this guy take over TV yesterday on here and I was asking about y'all. He real cool. Same thing, Smitty and Smitty. And you know, everybody are greeting. And the bloggers is talking about it. I asked that question, the trio talk, no pill talk. Smitty and Smitty. I said, okay. So that's it. It is what it is. I'm going about what they telling me. I'm not, you know what I'm saying? I ain't just listening to everybody down there, but if y'all got a problem with it, step your game up. You know what I'm talking about? They're gonna have to come on with it. You know, if y'all doing y'all thing, y'all putting the work out there, ain't nothing, enough say it. Ain't mean, yeah. Don't do it girl, I mean. But it should use that as motivation. It should use them as motivation. That's right. You know, you can get somewhere, even although you're from East Texas, you're moving up like they're from there too. They should be able to say, okay, if they can do it, I can do it too. Right. They should be able to, but I realized that everybody ain't got the same mindset like some people so, I mean, shh. Do you feel like if you was not in East Texas and you was somewhere else that you'd have been in popped? No, because if that place was my hometown, it's the same thing. It's always hometown. Your hometown be the last to jump on. It don't matter where I was, if I'm starting my hometown, like they're gonna be the last to love you. Okay, okay. They're gonna be the last to root for you when they see this stuff popping out. It's like they secretly, they silently wanna do it, but they really don't wanna do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't give a fuck. I know you don't care. You can't care. You can't care. You can't get caught up in emotions when it comes down to what we doing here. What is for you is gonna be for you anyway. Yeah, so I mean, the thing I always, I always look at the female artist, man. It's a lane right now, wide open for y'all. I mean, it didn't used to be that way. When I was younger, it was hard for a female to break anyway. But with the internet, the way it is, I think it's gonna open some doors up that people can't control. And the people, the masses see you and they're gonna pick. I love the internet cause they kinda tell you what you are, who you are. It really, it don't play with you. It's straight up say, hey, Smith Alton, this is who you are and you gotta live with that. Either you can do it, get better or you can decline. But they gonna speak. The masses gonna tell you who you are just by what you putting out and the way that you kinda control in your whole situation. Am I right? Yeah, but I'm narrating my own story. No, no, I get it. So what they're seeing is what they give them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I mean, I say that because you look at the numbers, the way that they, the engagement and all the stuff that's going on. And it's something that you gotta take notice to cause there's money in it. We just had old boy Prince on here and they doing the TikTok thing. Him and Lil Run and them and they focused on trying to make sure that stuff is right. You know what I mean? And like I asked him, well have you mastered articulating the way that you move inside a TikTok or inside? What's that other one he told us about? Likey. All these different little, I didn't even know what that was. I didn't either. The nigga put me on. I'm like, what? He's like, yeah, you gotta get on there. You can make some good off of that. Yeah, because everybody on there and they be engaging and they be going live. The little unique yesterday went live the whole time she was here on likey. And it's like, yeah. And you be getting paid. And they be getting paid. They got a monetarily thing going on with it. So you gotta definitely get it. Shout out to that boy, man. He'd be putting me up on game on this little, you know, the social media platform. You know, I'm from my space, nigga. Okay. Yeah, I ain't, I'm from East Texas with my space. That blew, yeah, yeah, blew me up. I didn't know what was going on. That blew me up, my space. So what is it? I mean, what's next for you? You say you're working on a project. When is the project set to come out? Possibly around May. Right now we're gonna get ready to shoot the video to my single that we've been pushing in this beginning radio play and satellite play as well. It's called Let Me See It. That was also produced by Sergeant James. I've seen that. I listened to that this morning. Thank you. Yeah, let me see it. Yeah, yeah, so, so, so what inspired that? Let's talk about it. You brought it up. Oh, what inspired it? I don't know. I'm a, I love to dance. I'm a ratchet hoe at heart. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Like in the club, like I love to hear a good, you know, so I don't know. Man, I just, I heard the beating. I was like, yeah, that's me. And I was like, okay, yeah, that's a big booty. And like everybody know, I've been saying that's a big booty for years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like the ultimate hype man when it comes to like hyping girls up when they dancing and stuff. So I'll just hype my own stuff up on the song. You know what I'm saying? And that's what's been getting the buzz. That's what's been doing the job. So are you a, okay, long star? A long star. When I get ready to go to the grocery store, where do I go? You got to go to the grocery store. I'm trying to go to the big store, ain't ya? She either go on a sprang of crumbs. Okay. That much you can go to a grocery store. That's what I'm saying. That's the danger field. There it is. I was trying to get to, you running up the danger field to get you something to eat. I'm from down there and sniffing gas and sending Jefferson. I got to go to Marshall. I got to go up to Jefferson to try to go by Brookshires. We real small. So I know if you're a long star it's a place where you got to go. You know, it ain't just right there. And that's what I love about the country. See, I don't want a nigga clothes up on me anyway. I hated New York anytime I go. I love the country, but I hate the country because of that, because you have to drive so far. I love it. I'm like, man, if you got some milk, you got to turn around and go back. Yeah, I bang out all the way up there. Nigga got some speakers in there. I'm a love to ride. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to be real. I'm going to bang out my little blunt. See what I'm saying? She going to drive and roll and do what she got to do. So let me ask you this. And I always asked this little girl. She young, probably about 13, 14, she want to rap. What would you tell her? How would you tell her this? What would you tell her she needed to do? Cause you done did some things in the game that she trying to do. Oh, I would just tell her like never let what anyone has to say about you or to you about your work after the whatever you're doing make you put your head down whether it's good or bad. It's a sign of weakness and defeat. I just say that to learn from it. Cause no one, everybody not out to get you. Like they, if you really want to take something serious like you're going to get critiques and everybody not going to like, everybody's not going to like what you're doing. So if you can't take constructive criticism then your heart's not really in the right place. So I just feel like you learn from whatever you can because it really is hard. Just like, just, just, oh, I just want to rap and you a girl and you don't know the business side or you don't know the, you know, the engineering side or the funny business with the these lame ass niggas and record and motherfucking producers and engineers and stuff like they're like, don't just be so quick to like take, take, take or receive anything. Yeah, cause it's gotta be tough on you. Especially when you looking good and these niggas they get way unprofessional in the midst of they supposed to be being professional. I know you done seen it because at the end of the day they niggas gonna try. Yeah, they gonna try. And the thing I could say is, cause I heard some stories, you know, we just heard some crazy story about some major people who be trying to catch people up for us, you know, basically do this for me and I'll do that for you. Oh yeah, it goes down like that. I'm already knowing that's what they do. Yeah, so, and I couldn't believe how much it goes on. So I apologize to you for my five people acting up food because that don't make no sense. You know what I'm saying? Cause you talented anyway. The fuck? Yeah, but you know I'm telling the truth. This is what's going on. And I really, I don't like that. They do that to hold females down. They bold. And they almost like, okay, if the proposition though. It'd be the audacity for me because bitch I don't give a fuck who you didn't work with. The fuck, like I don't care if I wanna show my ass 24, 50 million, 75,000 times, bitch I don't give you no right to even think that you can, you know what I'm saying? Like, don't even do that. Yeah, no, I get it. Some of it, man. But I know and I'm finding that I'm more as I keep interviewing the girls. It's like, whoa, are you serious? They be like, yeah, look at this text. I'm like, are you serious? I'm like, this is the major nigga. He did that. And it throws me off. I just don't get it. I don't get it because I guess cause I live by a different code. But let me ask you a question. And it's different for the men in the industry and the girls. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. But as a female, when you get struck with something like that, and these are people who are standing in your way to success. How do you deal with that? Do you be like, okay, is there a way around that? Or are you just give up? Or what do you do? I just don't even do business with their person. If it is something like then, money talks. So I'm gonna just say how much do you charge for your services? How much is this beat? How much is yours? Your beat don't cause nothing. I just need you to drop out. I'm just telling you how to go down. No, I know what you're saying. That's sad. This will be my response if we're texting and shit. Like I'll be like, oh no, here we go. We ain't doing that, man. I mean, you just don't respond. It's like I got plenty of other people in my mother's fucking, that you can go to somebody else. Willingly sending me beats and shit in beat pack. Just boy, fuck you in that pussy ass. Like don't even do that. But that's real though. I like being real. I like to see, I like to, cause the people need to hear this stuff because somebody may hear you say that and say, that give them encouragement to be able to deal with that. You know what I mean? She just said, she sidestep, like I ain't got even got time for it. But some females get that and then give up because they might go to that one person and get that same thing and then okay, I'm gonna first do the same thing and keep on getting that response. They'll be like, man, I can't do this. That's like you finding a real job though. You not gonna find whatever you want to. It come to you. Did I say that right? No, I did not say that right. Let's do it again. I think I said that wrong. Come on back. Back that thing up. That's funny. We mentioned, bring it back. Yeah, you know, I'm just saying like that's like, you keep going to a different profession, profession. Okay, you know how people keep finding like their career in college and shit. Like you keep jumping from profession, profession, profession, so you find your right one. You gonna jump from one producer, one engineer to you find that right producer, right engineer that's there for you. Want to work with you that don't give a fuck about titties and nah. You gonna find that one engineer to be like and believe in your talent. Yeah, put it on, pay for studio time, baby. You gonna have to pay for this. Exactly. Don't buy no one hour studio time with me. You gonna have to come to, but it's some engineers out there like that. Like you're gonna run into bullshit until you've run into something that's like, you know, more, that works with you. That works better like this. That's real. That's for you, yeah. So how long have you been rapping? Three years. For three years. I've been taking it seriously. Ooh, for two years. For two years. So you've always wanted to be rapping when you were a kid or you wanted to do something else? No, I actually, I talk a lot. I really wanted to be a lawyer because I'm right. And even when I'm wrong, I'm right. I'm right. That's you too. You know what I'm saying? It really, it started off as lawyer like back then, back then, but then as I was getting older, like I was a big English head, really, language arts head. I wrote poetry before I took rap seriously. So like I wanted to do like either English teacher or I wanted to do like social work, anything with kids, because I love kids too. But then like... Do you have any kids? No, ma'am. Look how she's like... You don't want no damn kids. That's for sure. I got some 30. Already. Like 23 right now. They ain't trying to hear it. I gotta go. It's grind mode. I believe in abortion. Woo! She hit you with the dougie right there. You don't play with me. You don't play with me. They don't, they don't mean it. That day after, what is the morning after? Is it the doug next day? The morning day past? The morning day is going down in her life. No, she's not here just like, I heard just like unprotected or anything like that though. It's just like, don't play with me. Cause no, I'm not the one that's gonna wanna keep the baby. Well, is that the reason that you shut the only fans down? No, that's not why I shut the only fans down. Yeah, I heard about that. I didn't get told me about that. I said, what's she doing on there? Say she show her toes on there. I said, she get paid for it. She better get them toes out. I'm screwed. Yeah, yeah, put your... Whatever you gotta do. You know, tell them to see the nails. You know what I'm saying? See what I'm saying? And then they're gonna pay for that. So why do you shut it down? If they, you only show it... I really, I was twerking as well too. Oh, you twerking a little bit on there? I tell, I stop... Is some old footage up? No. I uh, I stopped twerking on like all my social media. You don't twerk? No, I'm trying to tell you the game. Go ahead, I wanna hear it. Everybody should be twerking. I'm trying, I stopped twerking on all my social media cause they love, the people just love to see me twerk. Like, if I ain't rolling the weed, I'm twerking type shit. It's like people watching me do. So like, I stopped doing it on social media and I started doing it on only fans. I just, I put a price on some I already did. Wow. So I was just twerking. And like, I was twerking in like lingerie and swimsuits and I do that in videos, pinned straight in. Why'd you stop? Yeah, I like that. That's a nice video. Thank you. Why stop on only fans? Because I'm not consistent. I can't make no content and shit like that to just... I got it, I got the money, I got the money that I needed. It was gone and there was just some play money. And even then, like, I used that money to put in two classes worth of another job that I picked up on. So I started making money off of that, what I learned to help. Made you some good bread off of? Yeah, I started learning how to do locks. Locks, is that what a little girl says she do? Yeah, y'all girls love to break that hair in. Because lock not... Lock that hair in. That's good. Locks, you make good money for a long time now because everybody doing locks right now. And it's not cheap. Oh, I know it ain't cheap. I know it ain't cheap. Except in any new... I don't even post when I do locks except in new clients because I don't have time. Because I be working Monday through Friday. I get off work to go to a photo shoot or some shit like that if I ain't got a photo shoot. Oh, so you have a regular job as well. Yes, I work at one of the doctor's offices in East Texas. Really? I'm very professional. I can switch over. Is it all white folks at that doctor's office? It's a couple of ladies. Couple of ladies? Okay. I want to know. Okay, because we've interviewed a couple of females and a lot of people feel like in order to take the music industry serious, they had to go ahead and quit their full-time job and just go head in to... That's how anybody would feel in the music industry. Like DJs feel like that. Shit, photographers feel like that. I think anybody with a passion for what they want to do, you going to have to let their one job go and so you can fully invest in your job. So how do you balance everything? Are you 100% into your rapping right now? Yes. But you still have a full-time job? Yes, and I still do locks and I still model. And I love it, because that's not like me. Stop playing. I don't really just have an off day. I don't do that either. Do I have a juice? Do I ever have an off day? I either, he got my location and I'll be like, hey, I got a photo shoot. Me and her, we in a call, we got to go. I get off of work to go to work. We switch wigs. We do like, yeah, so I don't really just... You're going to get that money doing it like that. All that other stuff playing. Everybody stays still, oh, I'm tired. Oh, I'm near. I get so sick of that. I sleep on the way up here. That's why my makeup would have been done, but I was so tired last night. Cause I like, yesterday was like our first Saturday for the last like five, six months. Like we had a free Saturday. So like, I was tired. Like I needed the little rest. And then like, even when we got in the car, like I slept the whole way here, or I would have been up at like six o'clock at her house, gave my makeup done. I still was up, but she had put my wig on my head. And I was like, girl, you have to do my makeup for that thing, babe. I'm, I can't do it. Then driving, oh, I hate driving, but now I ain't got to drive. You got to drive. Is your manager driving now? I know, I know I'm supposed to be rich. You hear me? Yeah, yeah, no, no, I ain't in the wrong way. You, you got to drive. A clean up person. Yeah, I don't play. I feel the same way. So I can relate to that. Do you hear me? Damn right, I hear you. I'm the one, that's what I do. I already can't drive. Well, no, I can drive. But I just, I don't trust nobody driving. I got a big problem. I don't even trust the people we be right, even in Jamaica, especially in Jamaica. Like I don't trust people at the end of the day driving me around. I'm serious. I don't trust you with my life. I'm real particular about that. And that's just probably cause I just don't trust niggas. But then I do, I want that, like we got the facial and the pampering and all that the other day. That's cool. But a nigga really liked to be in control. I really don't like to be having nobody. But that's different for a woman now. I understand you saying, hey, drive me around. Cause that's what the big dogs do. I've been tired. I don't seen the big dogs rolling. I know how y'all roll. So, so what you going to do? How you going to master the driver and all that stuff? How you going to do it? I'll be in the car with them now. So you done? I'm done. She go to sleep. I used to do that with dope things. Yeah, back in the day, that's how I would get around. I'm being real. I used to pick out the drivers. You did? Yeah. Cause you don't want to be seen and you ride with the people to hide. You know what I'm saying? And that's how I would hide. But it was comfortable. Like, dang, this is cool. I don't ever drive no more. That's a different feel. Did your driver's okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm getting my money to make them niggas pay. Back in the day, this is the way I did it. Like be low key nigga want my money. Like, what? Yeah, I called him. You didn't see me coming in dope for you and call her. So I seen your uncles on that video. Yeah, one of them. Yeah. No, it was two guys there. I know, but one of them is my uncle. One of them, the guy with the beard. The one in the white, the big one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So y'all got a pretty good relationship. Yeah, that's my uncle. That's your dog. Yeah. You love that nigga. Boy, that nigga, that good nigga, man. That's a good uncle right there. That's the nigga who used to come out of his pocket, didn't he? Back in the day, he didn't get you nothing. Well, yeah, I had to work for her. Oh, he wasn't just, okay, he taught her right. He taught her right. He taught her right. I could tell you cut for him, because you're like, my uncle, I'm like, damn, that nigga must be, he got a shot out. You know what I'm saying? I ain't had no shot out. He was the first person to hurt the serious when they played my stuff on serious. Yeah. Motherfucking FaceTime and say, bitch, I told you. Bitch, I told you, I told these hoes and long mother-in-law trying to doubt you. Bitch, you want serious, shade 45 right now. Go, nigga, go. You want shade 45 right now. Loving it. That's good, man. I didn't even ever wanted to cry. No, no, that's great. Because he was one of the ones that was like, bitch, you out here trying to sell drugs, bitch, you need to be rapping. The fuck? Oh, yeah. You don't need to be, you know what I'm saying? When they heard me rapping, they was like, oh, yeah. Like, she need to, yeah, you need to rap. But then, you know, I went through like a depression moment. So like one of them years, I like, just like, what am I doing? Like, what am I doing? I did go through one of those. It broke me the fuck down too. But I realized that music is my outlet. Like, okay, I make music. Like, this is why I'm making music so I can, you know, express it and get it out. So, yeah. I think the main thing I say is, man, you gotta keep going, man. People hear your music. It is outlet for like people who- It's therapy. Yeah, it's very much therapy. So, I mean, for you to been grinding like you have, now you're trying to revamp, do some of them engineers be like, damn, she think my engineers suck. Took all the music down. I ain't got nothing to do with me. Just being real, like, if I did the work, you know. Like, what happened to all the damn music we worked together but I can't believe you did. I mean, I probably only had like two songs of anyway. These niggas, they ain't gonna like, I thought about it when, I think me and him was talking earlier. I was like, so where is the music at? Well, she ain't, she redoing her stuff right now. So, I know how I am like, okay. Before he took me serious, he was like, you gotta come with a track, a record. Service pack. No, no, no, that's real. If you want me to take you serious, you gotta come back and show me that you- Man, he right. That's what Sir Charles Jones said the other night. He tells y'all nigga, he say, bring me a thousand dollars if you serious. And I can't rig with a record. Real talk, you can't rig with a service pack. Yeah, it gotta be something. I gave him something, he worked with clean version, dirty version, like, yeah. And consistent wise, yeah. It was there too. I promote myself like a motherfucker. You working? You working? I see your gram, everything looking good. I mean, I see your numbers, I mean, people looking. So how you gonna build on that momentum? I'm gonna just keep going and keep doing it because of course I ain't where I'm supposed to be. The video's right, but you gotta keep going. That's what I'm saying, I gotta keep going. I just gotta keep, I gotta keep making music, man. Yeah, well Kanye made through the wire. I mean, Jay-Z, you asked him, you know what I'm saying? He was like, this is good, but can you keep making them? Can you keep doing it? That nigga works 6.6 billion, so he damn sure will keep going. So, man, I was thinking about it. Yeah, so, I mean, are you single? Yes, I'm single. What? Say, you niggas in Dallas, she in Dallas, Texas, today you niggas about to get out of here. You talking about she's single and she's the little man girl. What kind of guy do you like now? So, our listeners are listening, you know that? What kind of guy do you like? Like, I mean, white collar? Why would I be listening? Weirdos, uh, thug niggas? I just like what I like, what I like, what I like. Thug niggas? So, tell them, what would you consider the perfect guy? I really don't even know y'all, because I'm so used to just, I have like a routine, I don't really do relationships and don't shit like that, because I ain't never been in love or had no heartbreak. You ain't never been in love? Or had no heartbreak. I had my feelings hurt, but I know it wasn't like no big thing, because I bounced back the next day and I was like, let me unblock this big thing. Real life. But I've never experienced that and I'm 23 and I'm just like, oh, I don't think I wanna feel that like 24, 25, and I'm like, I don't know, because I seen how that shit look around me from, you know, my sisters and you know, my momma and stuff like that. I was like, I ain't trying to go through that. I'm a sister of ho too. I beat them broke down. But now so, I try not to do relationships and stuff like that. Most of the time, like I either get labeled like the home girl, like a home girl, like I got a cool love vibe and shit like that. Oh, and, you know, and really, most folks just don't want me because I show my ass so much, so. You used to be fighting and stuff. You beat up a couple of girls down in the hood? I think I got my name. I got my name from, not mine. I knew it, I knew it, I knew it. Stomp down. But I got known for fighting because like I'm not from originally from Longview, so it was just me and my momma and ho and stuff like that. Name what? Them hoes used to try to bully me. In seventh grade year, they had me fucked up, bitch. I'm in my momma. So what was your nickname back then? What did they call you? My name, it was just like Joy. My name is Joy. And they like go trying to, Joy, I just thought my name started like had a little, you know, I started getting a little buzz cause you know, Joy used to fight or a big booty Joy. You used to fight. I used to go with the mole on the lip of some shit like that. Joy used to fight. A killer. I had a couple of fires. Yeah. So how did the name Smitty Hawkins come about? Smitty is an acronym. Smitty stands for so much info-to-tallion. And Hawkins is, you know, it's another alias alternate cause I go by Smitty Hawkins, Smitty the kiddie, Smitty the motherfucking boss. Like I say, it's different so. Shout out Smitty nigga, that's going down, man. I would never guess that was an acronym. I like it. I like it. It's gender neutral. It's, you know, Smitty. Yeah. So. But now, I think. Oh yeah, I'm accepted. Oh yeah, I did tell. I'm accepting all trips and, Wait a minute. Dates this year. What the hell is going on? I'm accepting all trips and. She's that winning it like. Okay, because I'm tired. Okay. I'm tired. You know what I'm saying? Wait a minute. You're willing to date and all of that, but it just. I date. I talked to her, I talked to her, I talked to her. Yeah, I talked to her nigga before you got on here. We're like, she fine as hell. Oh man. I say, really? It's like, yeah, man. I say, I say, yeah, she coming by to do the show. They say she fine as hell. So. They ain't sure. They is not sure. It'd be funny because people who be in my inbox, they, they don't even be worn that man. Well, how can a nigga get in your inbox and then just get jiggied with it? Like get a response. Shit. Let's go get some food. You see, we both saw the sign. What about what? They gotta take her to that chicken place down there that she live. Shit, take me somewhere. No, just say, hey, I'm really like, I'm really like, I'm really a cool person. Like I'm really like, like down the earth and laid back. Like if I could wear tights and shit all day and just not have to be so focused on the glam, like I would. Yeah. Like. Yeah. I get it. I get it. See, everybody heard a song and when they hear the songs and they see the glam, they, that's what they want. Period. Yeah. Yeah. And you ain't really even just fit to do that all day for them anyway. They're gonna have to love you for you. You don't take all this stuff. I'm fit to be just me. Yeah. Okay. They gotta love you for you. That's what I'm saying. Like if they ain't have to like, if that fruit shit ain't ever happen, bitch, I'll be able to walk around naked. Cause I'm talking about comfortable, bitch. The fruit, hey, if it didn't have me, I'd be naked too, dawg. That's what I'm saying. Like I hate clothes. Yeah. Yeah. So that's how I be. That's another thing. I'd be like just cause like my values and morals are different from yours. Don't, you know, don't mean that it's more or less their value than yours. Cause just cause like I'd be telling this just like, I'm not mad that you, you can't date me or not want me because, you know, I do certain things or some, you know, some stuff not cool to you, but like that ain't gonna make me change from what I'm doing. Cause like, I mean, I'm all about body positivity. I'm all about like loving yourself. It took me a lot. It took me a while to get here, bitch. You think I'm finna just like, Hold it down. What? Like, and you can't tell, and I hate them niggas that be like, ain't no niggas gonna love you out here. Bitch, Tiana Taylor, he mine gonna post that bitch in lingerie, right? Or a bikini and be like, that's the apple of my eye. Like what? You can't say a nigga not gonna love me when it's niggas out here who, be honest, we have naked too. Like, it's just like, I feel like it's a problem because I don't have a, we don't, the only difference between me and them hoes is our bank account. It's the only thing different. So you have a say to make you like, you have a say or will you think you have a say to speak on that? Because I'm still in this like same area as you type shit, but. They got me sucked up though. So let me ask you a question. You said that at one point in your life you went through a depression state where you had to come back up from that. Do you mind elaborating on some of the things you went through and how did you overcome it for our listeners? Cause you know, you have people going through the same stuff that you might have went through. Yeah. I was losing friends at that time. And it was just like, it was bad. Because like I'm so used to being busy. So like at one point, like when I don't have anything to do, because I keep myself busy when I don't have anything to do this when everything just opens up and just I be able to think about everything. Everything just flows down and just come on and meaning like it just hit me type shit. Like if I, that's why I have like fogeyles. So that's why I'm always busy. So I don't have to feel like all the other shit, like the real shit that I be feeling like. Cause I did just recently, you know, with like a little breakup too and type shit like that. So like if I'm, if I'm not working, like I had like a breakdown, maybe like for the first time in like five months, like two weeks ago, like Tuesday. Cause like, I didn't have no photo shoots. I was done with my real work at my job job. Like I was doing right music. I was just literally just sitting there at the work and I just broke the fuck down. Cause I was like, oh, what happens? He don't love me no more. Come on now. You know what happens. I mean, we all go through those parts in life. You know what I mean? So I get it. But how did you overcome it? You just started getting busy again. I just, I don't really just, I haven't just overcame like nothing. I just, yeah, I just Snap back in the snap snap. To work like, oh man, fuck this shit man. Got me fucked up. Let me just, let me go back to work. Let me, let me ask you a question. I asked all my guests, man. Top three artists of all time, dead or alive. Top three artists of all time, dead or alive. Any genre. I don't care. Let me hear it. Who's your number one? Lil Snoop. That's my nigga right there. Who is Lil Snoop? That's me. Meals was his all. He died or I P Lil Snoop. Recent piece to it. Damn. We were supposed to be together. I like that. Not number two. Damn. You catching me off guard. Damn. Nicki Minaj. Nicki Minaj? You love, you want to meet her? That's the first Nicki Minaj ever. First one on the show. Nicki Minaj. That's a good one. I like it. Number three. She grind hard. Kevin Gates. Kevin Gates. I love your choices, man. I love it, man. I mean, so, so Lil Snoop. What made him your number one? Because you fell in love with him at a young age? He made me want to rev. Really? That nigga was a storyteller, man. I used to just feel with him. Everything he was saying. A lot of people love that nigga. His life. Oh, I was like, bitch, I've been through this. So it's Lil Snoop. Nicki Minaj. Nicki Minaj. And Kevin Gates. And Kevin Gates. Kevin Gates. Nicki Minaj. We've had him before. We had Kevin Gates before. Nicki Minaj is something else, man. She, she kind of, she. That's the queen. Yeah, but she, she got it. You got it. She the one you got to be have. You got to pamper her. You can tell. She ain't trying to hear. Nah, y'all just need to give her a mother for the rest of it. You know, you got to pamper her. Cause like. You is not for the, you is not for to be kicking with her. You go out there. Everything's centered toward her. Yeah, I'm going to help. You kind of like her, Nicki Minaj. Let's just go and say it. You kind of like that. I take that as a compliment. Yeah. Yeah, I'll see what's going on. I can see why. You know what I mean? You got it going on. I love me some Nicki. And Cash Doll. I can't wait to see you win, doll. Oh, amen. I'm going to see you at the top, man. I can't wait to see you win. See, that's what a real nigga want to see. You want to see you go all the way to the top, baby. Bust it up. Boom. It's all over. It's over. It's up. So whatever you have new projects, you going to come back through and rock out with us? I'm ready. Hey, man. You know, you're at home now. I mean, when you came in here, let me just be real. She said the next one coming out in May. So you might need to come back to release that. Yeah. You need to come through and let everybody know about to go down. Cause we going up. It's all keep growing. This thing going bigger than what we ever thought it would go. Well, I'm ready. So we, I mean, when you came in, you know, you came into a in the midst of a real, real good aura. Come on. I like it. You always can come here. We've been here. This East Texas thing started down there. You eat crab legs. That's her thing. But I do eat them too. I love them. You got to eat laughing crab and Shreveport. You got to have Southern Classic and laughing crab. They both from Shreveport. That's what, and we got to go down through there. Yeah, I got to go there. But we get off this deal here. Tell us, give us your hand. How can people get a hold of you? How can they book you? What can they do? Oh, yes. On Instagram, you can go and follow me and enjoy her to underscores. Or you can just type in Smitty Hawkins. It's going to bring up. Enjoy her booking. He's in the bio, management, DJ, Juicin, TBR studios, e-mail is in there as well. Smitty Hawkins on Facebook. Enjoy her love on Snapchat. I don't have Twitter right now. You should. You got to be, you know, that's the stage. You got to stand on every stage. There's people in there. You don't shut the door and nobody that's wanting to hear it from Smitty. Yeah, I just, I don't even think I have the password. We got to get back in that thing, man. I'm going to have to find out. We definitely appreciate you for coming on the show. Thank y'all for having me. And I just, like I said, I really, I want to get you and your manager just to talk a little bit of how y'all linked up. But I mean, I got to talk to this guy too. So let me, but I love to see people come together because a lot of people don't realize structure. And I've been teaching that to people as they come on the show. Like you got to be a structure. You can't come up to me and you ain't got your stuff together talking about you this or you that. There has to be a structure. What your team at? You can't do this by yourself. So that, that's a good thing that I love to see what y'all doing. Yes, I love it. Yeah, I'm loving it. And I can tell it's very professionally ran. I mean, the brother called me soon as, you know, I called him rich, I told him with my team and it went down. So I thank you for coming on the show. Thank y'all for having me, man. Man, it's me, the Hawkins, man. Boss talk one on one. Period.