 The next thing is nothing to it, just go back to district court and district court is good right back, so it has nothing to do with it, nothing to be all there to it. My brother and my little man. That's one thing wrong about taking calm out of there. Do you think so? Yeah, but I think it'll still, I think we've still got the votes on that. I'm not sure it depends on how it develops. If that may hurt, we'll certainly lose the vote on that. The other side won't gain one, we'll lose the vote. On the other hand, if you didn't appoint Ramsey, we'll cool down on this thing. I feel like we ought to have got him a long time, because I honestly believe it's true. I believe he's a pretty selfless fellow. Well, I think so. I answered him. Last night I answered him, but I think it's a sign of victory. He wanted to be assistant secretary of state under Russ, and Russ Kennedy to make him assistant secretary of state. They didn't do it and they put him over there just drafting opinions. That's not what he'd like to do, that's not the move he'd go to if he had his choice, but he did it and did it well, and he harassed around with our executive order on equal employment, and all the mean little dirty things that you and I had to deal with all the years you've known me. And remember, he went back over it and he was very quiet and easy, and so did everybody and got him to accept it. And he did that job long until it was a white quitter. And then they brought him up and put him in that job. And that's about as many jobs as you can have with all the patronage and all that. And he did that one. Then when Bobby left, he came into me and I asked him if he'd like to have the circuit court here, or if he was interested in a court appointment. I thought he might make a good man for the Supreme Court. And he said, well, it's a great honor and I would enjoy doing it, but said it's not really my first choice. I'm a teacher. I want to kind of get out of that, get in. The reason I enjoy this is the activity of it, public service. I'm very interested in the international field and I would like to assist the circuitry state, but I said, well, would you be interested in taking the CIA? And he said, yes, I'd like to have it. I'd be very happy to. He said, matter of fact, Mr. President, I would be glad to take any job that you thought I could be useful in. I'm not interested in the money of the title. He said, I don't mean for that I have money because I don't have. He said, I don't need a lot and I get by all right with what I do. And we have enough. I would be glad to take any job. When I kept remembering that, that's the primary reason I made him turn general. That just appealed me so much as being such a good person and you recommend him. So that's it. Well, I must say, outside of these two or three things he doesn't discuss like the yes, those things. I must say that his judgment's been good and his relationship with me's been good. I've never seen the indication of sloppy word car. He lost his civil rights bill where I don't think anybody could say that after the... I think Stokey Carmichael killed that when he appeared on the scene. I think, though, that we're likely to get into serious trouble with this Department of Justice when they see him gone and they see a Texan in there. I think that has great dangers. That is Solicitor General. Yeah, but that'd be better than Solicitor General. Would it? For this purpose. I don't know whether he's really in there with our judges and whether he'd play with us there. He's a Republican. Imagine if you wanted to be getting justice for the Republican. No, the davidgy handles all of the personnel. I believe so. But I thought just the fact he brought in the Department could kind of... be in the Department would kind of cool him a little. I don't know anything that'll cool Carmichael. Because his whole future depends on him being way out. I wonder if this Marshall thing wouldn't kind of rock the negrism this country and put him in a position where they wouldn't be too mean to me. The appointment of the cabinet, they never noticed. We've got two letters. One of the men came in and told me yesterday, I said, that's the greatest weakness of your administration. I said, what? He said, you've done too much. He was a teapot running for Massachusetts. Well, what? And I said, what about it? He said, well, I'm the best governor Massachusetts you've had. I came in, I cleaned up this state, I tried to stop this graft, I did so-and-so. And so that passed 35 bills. And so that passed for a minute that the average bartender couldn't remember one. I said, you came in, you passed 100 bills that I can remember. I said, I can name you 15 educationals. I looked at the list. I said, you got your education, vocational education, education for the deaf, elementary education, secondary education, higher education, loans for all elementary students, work projects for high school students, loans for college students. All these other things. Now he says, I had a person named a damn bill that you passed. You passed 100 the first year and 80 this year. And said, there's 180. And I said, if you give me three, I can get elected. And I said, oh, why don't you take Medicare? I go, that's one that everybody ought to know we passed. And why don't you take education and health just as one outfit. And say that I have passed 40 bills on education, health, heart, stroke, cancer, new hospitals, modernization, teachers training, nurses training, profession. And take these 40 and say he passed Medicare, 40 health and education bill, poverty bill, and foods of the world. Well, he said he could get it down to about two of them. He thought he'd take Medicare and something else. He says it's just the fact you've got 200 just to run you. And said then, besides, I just think, goddammit, he could do it if he wants to. Anything he wants to. No use having to pay extra nickel for bread if he wants to stop it. He could do it. He's able enough and he's slick enough to hell of a note too. I noticed this in New York Times that he's slick this morning. They are mean to me every day. He said, this is going to be announced anyway. They knew all about it. They know what a damn human knew about it. But me, what happened was this damn Gene Rostow I could kill him. I got him in. I said, I'm Gene. There's one thing I'm not going to have is any leaks. And I'm just not going to have these columnists writing about when I'm going to bomb Hanoi and Hythong, like they did George Ball leak that genome. And I had to wait a week before I could go through it. He's worse than Adelaide. He just couldn't keep anything. So he said, that's right. I said, now don't you tell anyone but your brother and your wife. You've been office. He said, all right, he wouldn't. He went out of the office and he called George Ball. And I said, now you tell Gene when he talks to George and everybody else. Don't mention anything about this except to his wife and to the president that he has to get off the hook on. But don't let anybody else know it. So he called him and told him again. Specifically, not to mention George. He went down to see Rusk and accepted from Brewster. Brewster was real nice. I guess I ought to call him. Thank him. He let him off. And it was a great inconvenience. He's head of this college and he just fixed up his house. He's gone to a lot of expense. His wife had taken over and knew out there if a wall came in. And I said, well, what's Gene done? Well, he said he'd buy a guy. She called up George Ball and told him he'd accept it. And this was night fooling. At 8 o'clock, I said, well, I haven't got a chance in the world of announcing this because George Ball will announce it. Well, George called himself a press conference at 3.30. I got one at 11. And I don't think he told a press conference. I think he told him he was leaking and I think he leaked it around and it was going to do it. Because a week before he came in and told me he was going to send me a letter and I said, I just thought we're down home. We poised eggs once in a while to get these sheep killing dogs. And we put a little egg and laid it out where they can walk right into it. So I told George, I said, well, I don't know what in the world I'll do. George, when you're gone, I guess I'll have to have Elworth Bunker come in here and help him. We'd already talked to Bunker and he said he couldn't do it physically. He wasn't up to it. But we liked him and he's a natural, you know. So George said he would be good. He would be good. And I said, well, who do you think we ought to help in the second place? He said, well, he didn't know and we talked around a little bit. And finally I said, well, Dean wants Luke Battle. Well, he said, I think Luke Battle will be very fine. I said, well, we just may have to do that. Now, don't say anything about it to anybody. He said, well, now I didn't say it to a human. And that's the only person, Dean Rusk, we haven't discussed those two with him. I got Pierce to pick it up two days later. So Johnson's already made the decision. Well, George just took that egg, swallowed it and carried it right over and put it on him. And I didn't laugh to the George. He just can't keep anything, not even bombing an oil. But I got to work on Rusk. Okay.