 It has opened up its postal sector to include logistics for many years, and we understand that the road is not always easy. Right now, there is a huge difference in the working conditions between the traditional postal workers and those who work in the much more precarious logistics industry, especially those who are working in the last mile delivery. We think that one of the first things that would have to be tackled, if the UPU were to open up, there must be a condition that we bridge the gap, we bridge the inequality gap between these two groups of workers, that the private sector workers also have access to bargaining and trade unions and that we can start to level up. We hear a lot about we want a level playing field, of course all the companies in the room today are saying they want a level playing field, the postal operators are saying we need a level playing field, and we agree the regulations should apply to everyone if we're going to make that happen, but let's not forget about the workers because they need a level playing field as well.