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Do this, do that. This is how you can support us. Go ahead and buy our memberships. Thank you in advance. Man, hold up, island up and done it. I'm back in LA, man, it's going down, man. I got my partner here and he ain't playing no games. I'm gonna be real, which I've been waiting for this interview. I left him last time. It was a year ago we did our last interview. It's time. He's here. Columbus Charleston, the building, man. You know you're my brother. For life, for life. And they don't even understand, it's real. Like, oh no, I'm trying to get you to Dallas. I gotta get, wherever you at, I'm at. My buddy, it was a commercial. My buddy, my buddy, wherever I go, he goes. How you doing, man? Man, I'm good. You're looking good. Thank you, man. Just, you know, out here, it was a little bit under the weather. You know, like, yeah, that kid, kid's clothes is different. They hit you different. They hit you different than COVID. They hit you different. And we handle it worse than they did. And they'd be running around playing with it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We handle it way worse than they did. Me and my wife out last week, so I'm coming on the backside of it. Me, yeah. But it's good to see you, Miss Jamaica. Hey, you CEO, Miss Jamaica in the building. Money Moses, he's out here with us. Money Moses, oh man. Everybody got a brand new attitude, brand new bag. I see y'all don't like that Ditas collab. Oh, man, we had to do it, we had to do it. Man, I gotta, you know, I gotta ask you, man, like, I see you on the internet, man, and you ain't playing no games, man. You always consistently, you know about content. You like, I'm gonna keep this content up here all the time. He does. And I hear, you know, you pinned on my page, like. And he know how to tag. He comes up in my DM all the time. You gotta be manual. You know. What keeps you going? What drives you? Well, I mean, well, you know, just a little quick little drop. I, you know, I have a sitcom coming out in June with Bentley Kyle Levins. He executive produced Martin and, you know. Wow. I created Jamie Foxx show. So I got my Jamie Foxx show. And we finished. Is this your first sitcom? Because I don't remember. Since Thassel Raven. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's my show. Oh, awesome. Amazing cast. Congrats. Thank you. And so when he finished up the show, he was like, you know, Marlon Wands, all my comedian guys, I started in comedy. People don't know that. But I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Crazy story. So, but anyway, they were like, man, you got to get back on stage. We need to get your one-man show ready. So I just was like, let me, they were like, you know, Michael Coyette, Columbus. I need you to give me five minutes at a time. Let me see what you got. If you give me five minutes, I get you on stage. I get you on stage, man. And I was like, man, I'm not gonna look in the mirror and just do five minutes. I said, let me bait a test on my platform. And so what I was doing, using current events, telling stories, telling the truth, and seeing what was happening. And, you know, it just so happened when I started my journey, did he was hot in the street? So I had to get it. I didn't know what that was. I was really like. So I had to touch it. You messed me up. I was like, he really did call him one night. Like, I didn't know what was, that was true. Absolutely true. You see, you know, a lot of people. I thought that was a joke. Like, and exclusive, exclusive, exclusive. Man, man. No, so when I did Stomp the Yard, it was number one, two weekends in a row. And the second weekend, you know, it was, I was like experiencing, you know, phone calls, you know, getting movie offers and all these things that's kind of happening. And one day my phone call, I got a phone call, a no number, I answered it. And it was Diddy. And I was like, she's fan, fanboyed out. Like, what? He was like, man, I'm a big, man, you kept that movie, boo, boo, boo. Hey, I heard you coming to New York next week to do, you want to go to the second part? Hey, pull up at the Sondra Store. You can get whatever you want. Like, boom, you know, go out there, go up there, it'll look fresh, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, Diddy's looking out for me, man. I never met him when I got to New York. I just went to the Sondra Store and they was like opened up the gates for me. You know, I geared up, boo, boo, boo. Never met him when I was there for those couple of days. Then, that was January, February, because Stomp came out January 17, 2007. So February was All-Star in Vegas that year, 2007. Never forget it. So went to the All-Star game, it was crazy. And then my boys, my partners, they like, they were all with Diddy Tough. There was like, you know, the band for Bad Boy for a long time. They're like, hey man, Diddy said you can come to the Palms. He's having an after party. You know, he had the big one with the pool. Yeah, yeah, I've been in that one, I've been in that one. So, you know, I went up there, it was Pat. I mean, Nigga was in the lobby for lines, trying to get in. They was just, security asked security me through. And Diddy was just, you know, so this went on for about a year. Any parties he had, like I was, You would go. I didn't know that there was other parties. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you wasn't at them parties. I wasn't at them parties. Oh, okay, okay. I was at the, you know, the big party. The big, mm-hmm. And then Diddy called me one day after I did Cadillac Records. He came to the premiere of Cadillac Records in New York and he was like, man, you killed that. He said, I'm up for this movie or this show. It was a movie, Raisin' in the Sun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, I need an acting coach, man. So I put him with my acting coach. Okay. Since I was a kid. Yeah. And he, my acting coach, big shout out Josh Paton. Wonderful, phenomenal acting coach. And he started working with him. And you know, he, Then Diddy was on a series for a little bit. And then he was working. So I would, he was always looking out. So I think it was just now looking back. It's like the groomage. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was, I was, the BET Awards were happening in town. I didn't go cause I was nominated. So I'm like, well, I'm not going, I'm not nominated. You know what I mean? I'm just see my black, my identity career. So about two, something 30 in the morning, two, 15, two, 30 in the morning. Phone ring, cause it was a unknown number. I don't answer unknown numbers. But you know, my wife looking at me like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who is that? Yeah, I picked that up. I want to know about this and put it on speaker. Yeah, I picked it up. I said, who is this? It's Sean. I'm like, Sean. It's Puff. I'm like, oh, what's good? Talkin' low like that? Talkin' low. So I was, So I was like, hey, what's good? I said, what's cryin'? He said, we didn't see you tonight at the BET Awards. You didn't see you tonight? He said, You're checking in. He said, what you doing? I was like, oh man, I'm at the crib. He said, oh yeah, we over here at the, he said, I'm over here at the Beverly Hills Hotel. I said, oh, for real? So who over there? Just me. What? Come on, man. Man, he said, you serious? He said, just me. So my wife, excuse me. I'm over here on the suspect list. What the hell? I'm like, nah, man. I'm in bed, man. I'm good. He's like, all right, all right, just hung up. Did he ever give you signs? Did you ever give him any sign, any reason? No, no, no, no, whatsoever. So I'm like, man, and I, but now I got smoke in my house. So my wife was like, what's up? You know what I'm sayin'? I'm like, I don't know, this man just called me, right? And I don't know, I don't know what's going on. So anyway, so, you know, people when I posted that on IG, people was like, you know, the comments was like, but did you go? Yeah, you did, you did. I was like, you did leave it like it was. And I'm like, oh, I gotta respond to this. But I was like, the only way people really listen is if you said, you know, they listen to Dave Chappelle. Dave Chappelle says some shit they know it's back. I was like, hell no, I didn't go, it's crazy. It's ridiculous when I look like one of the grown men in the hotel room in the middle of the night. It's ridiculous, anything's possible with this man. Like Kellogg-R-Net went in the NBA Championships, anything's possible with this man. All the blame on those games, repeatedly that night, mm-mm, mm-mm. Oh, it could have changed everything. Damn, man, so. So you were not surprised when all of this came out and opened that up? No, I wasn't, because I have, you know, as I got further deeper into the game, you know, people talk. So I would hear stories, but I never saw nothing. Right. Did I mean, so I can't be like. Yeah, because you didn't go to those other parties. Yeah, I didn't know there's after, after parties. You didn't go to that hotel and you didn't go to that guy there. Yeah, that's the part, right? I put that part. That's the part. I put that part low. I put that part low. That's the part. So, like, have you seen him since that happened? No, we. Have you talked to him since that? So I saw, I did. Okay, so I did see some things one time and I did not, I escaped. Well, it's not, that sounds dramatic, but I, but I was, you know, I thought, you know, I'm an arts kid, so let me give some contents, context. You know, growing up in art school, you know, in high school, it was the first time I saw like, men like boys, like it was like we was in junior year, like going, going together, like holding hands in school and kissing and stuff. I was like, but I didn't want to judge them. They were talented, you know what I mean? And so there was this understanding and what is it called, you know, just non-judgment about it. So I was always been, you know, a non-judgment about people's sexuality. But, you know, people that you've seen that you would not assume, you know, doing compromising things, you know what I'm saying, booed up, you know, I'm gonna, you know, you my brother, I ain't gonna boo up with you, bro. You know what I'm saying? You're my brother. We ain't ever gonna be sitting too close on the couch. No, no, no, no. If me and you just want to go catch a Marvel movie, nigga, we got to have a seat in the middle. Oh yeah, for sure, for sure. We ain't not the same, we ain't, we ain't, we ain't not the same, we ain't, we ain't armed, we ain't armed, we ain't armed, we ain't armed, We're not sharing popcorn. We don't have to have a seat. Okay? We some spicy, okay? So I'm seeing some things, and I was like, man, and you know, so I used to drink a lot, a lot, like I could drink bottle tequila by myself. And I had, got invited to this meeting. But I hadn't drank all day. So this is it, now it's night. It's like 11,著零 twel. It was only about 14, 15 people in there, but some people. And they was like, I'm like, I only drink one thing, tequila. And they were like, oh, get him, get him. Oh, we got the smoothest, smoothest, smoothest tequila. So I was like, all right, let me get a shot. So I'm over here, like we chopping it up. I take my shot, I'm like, pretty smooth. So we chopping it up, five minutes go by, seven minutes go by, something wrong. Uh-uh. Something wrong, something wrong. Something was in your drink. Something wrong, because I'm getting dizzy. I'm like, I'm trying to, I'm trying to stay on one shot. So I'm like, I'm trying to stay focused, you know, but I'm hearing, but I'm like, oh, he's like, I started getting a little sweaty. I was like, oh, something wrong, I gotta find. Where's, I was like, I played it cool. You know what I mean? Where's the restroom? Where's the bathroom? So I'm like, they like down and it's all in. It's like a big ass house in Atlanta. So I'm like, walking down the hallway, look like the Starship Enterprise. I go to the bathroom and I put my finger down and I throw my, oh! Cat-backing. Oh! Yeah. Cause you knew. And my manager was with me. So he kicked in the door, boom, short you, all right. I was like, bro, I don't know where else, like, he's like, the driver's still outside. Let's go. So we go out and they all met us in like the vestibule and they're like, are you good? So I was like, chill, just relax. I'm like, nah, I gotta, I just like, nah, I'm fine, I gotta be upset early in the morning. Boom, getting the SUV. Drup, drup, drup, just get out of here. Damn! Right? Now who was at this party? That was the night that being an alcoholic saved my life and my booty hole. Cause you knew I oughta get on out of there. Damn it, boy, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, cause you- And now who was there? I don't want to name a name. Okay, I sure was gonna ask for it. You could've, hell was there. You could just- There was a lot of people there though. Like 14, 15, that's really weird. So it felt like, have you ever seen a movie, Rosemary's Baby? No. Where it's like they're like all talking, like they're having a dinner party, but everybody's like talking, and you're talking, but everybody's talking, but everybody's looking at you. That's where it felt, that's where it felt. You had to meet other night. I was like, oh, they was about to put me on the grill. They would be the hell to you. And I saw, I asked my boy, I said, cause after all this stuff about Diddy came out becoming, I called my boy, I said, man, now it all making sense. I said, what was they gonna do? What was gonna happen if I had stayed over there? And I was drugged. He said, hey, man, you was gonna be caught on tape with a triple glizzy. I said, what's a triple glizzy? Y'all let you guys decide what the triple glizzy is. All right, man. And I'm like, man. And I would have been black man over and over again. And I would have been under the toe, you know what I mean? And then you're looking at, you're looking at a bishop. Oh, man. Get ready, get ready, get ready. Get ready, get ready, get ready. What the hell, man? Your boy Brandon G. Jackson said, they had the power of bottom spirit on my show. He was like, I can't help it if somebody got the power of bottom spirit. Like it could be bad. I'm like- He's talking about his pray for them. Pray for them, but I'm privileged. But do you believe that? Because not everything you hear- 100% true. 100% true. 100% true. You know what I mean? And people like, keep your mouth off the bishop. Man, the bishop is gonna have his mouth off some things. Wait a minute. Like, how do you come up with that? But how do you say it's 100% true? The only way I say that is if you can see, if you saw something. If you guys, Boss Talk, I heard Boss Talk, they got a heist ring on the load. They go from city to city heisting. They rob banks. They rob- You have to see me to say that. You can't just say that. I heard Boss Talk. But then they're like, oh, but Columbus, you always on Boss Talk though. But do you know about this ring? Every time they come to town, you will- And every time they in town, somebody get robbed. But you might not have known. Every time they in town, somebody booty all getting blasted out. Damn! Oh, wait a minute. I mean, she's- And I got called back. What the hell? I don't know what a power bottom was. Ah! So I had to flip through my phone. I was like, who, the gay dictionary? And I was called my homeboy. It's a power bottom, huh? I said, what is a power bottom? They said, oh, Columbus, you don't know what a power bottom is? I thought he made that up. They said, who? I thought Brandon just made that up. No, no, it's a real thing. And they were like, oh yeah, it's been around for years. The power bottom is a larger, technically hairy man, could be of any ethnicity, that gets his back blown out. I did not know that. A powerful, bigger man. Yeah, power body. Yeah, power, power, power bottom. He described, he's trying to describe somebody. Ah, bigger man. Let me ask you this. Did you see the Cat William Man? Did you see that? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Bro. It was a lot. The whole entire thing. Did you, what did you think about it? What did you think? I mean, Cat's just, he's had it. I felt like he just was like, you know, forget this. I'm telling everything. Everything, everything. And if you don't like it, you take another drink. So you sit down for two hours, I watched it. I watched the entire 245. Did you feel like anything he said was incorrect? He said he promoted the fact that if he'd do another movie with Ricky Smiley, he had to wear a dress, and I just don't believe that. How could you calculate that? He said he put it in the contract. I don't know what I'm saying. How could you think that far ahead? Because Cat is diabolical. He's a Virgo. He's like, he thinks diabolically, and he's a genius. Oh damn, do you believe that? Yeah, I mean, you know, there's a code amongst comics, you know, that. But I think it's time to, you know, what's happening in the entertainment industry as a whole is what's happening in politics. We're training the swamp. So it's sad that so many talented artists, more than I've ever spoke up. There's more quiet than there are talking. Just know that. And they, to have to have these gifts and to, you know, meet your people that you've looked up to, or like, oh, that is saying they are, you know, we can start with R. Kelly. You know, that's a predator's device. Oh, I'm gonna give you a shot. Right. I'm gonna take you under my wing, right. Then to be put into compromises and situations and then become successful. It's almost like, did you sell your soul? I never sold my soul. So the road was a little bit harder. And there's some people that made compromises for their dream to be successful. That is now that cloud over there with careers over there. What was the plan? I don't know about all that. He says it's a lot. He was going. It was a lot. So, you know, for every, you got to eat the meat and spit out the bones. You know what I'm saying? Because some people are working hard. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Kevin's a grinder. So you know if they work here. Right. But see, Kevin in movies was different. I wasn't on the circuit with Kevin in the comedy. So when I started comedy, you know, my class was like little Damon, Damon Jr., Vince and O'Shawna, my man from a hangover Asian guy. You know, he was, those are the guys that were kind of outside in these little, you know, doing these shows locally. So, but Kat and them, they were a different generation. They were like, you know, they was coming up through with the guy Tories and the Joe Tories. Correct, correct. You know, all of that, the Monique's. Monique's face on all of them. They were all together. Yeah, all of them. Yeah, JV Smoog. JV Smoog, Earthquake. Yeah. All of them, Kat, Michael Coyer. You know what I mean? Chris Tucker. You know, those guys, the Wayans, the Wayans weren't really on stage. They was on TV. Yeah, yeah. So, Kat's got a different perspective on heart than I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, so, but Kat, like he's very, he's technical. He's precise. He's genius. He's a damn beast though when it comes to, and I always say that. It's a lot of them. I mean, don't get me wrong. And Faiza, I know you, he'd be watching me. That's my boy. Are you like, you think that? I just feel like. Faiza's a beast. He a beast. Like I said, Faiza sent me some old footage last night. I was like, whoa. I just watched the movie with Faiza. Well, Faiza, crazy with it. Crazy, bro. But I love it. Did you see that movie on the strip? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I seen it. I think it's crazy. He was trippin' out of the strip. Him and Wesley Snipes. He was foolin', boy. And I was, it was, you know what I mean? Tiffin' out of the strip. Didn't they have Kevin Hobbs in there too? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm sayin'? Like, I think, man, y'all all dope, bro. Everybody can be dope. Black people are talented, bro. A lot of them. Well, what's happening too is, man, it's kind of sad. Blue Shannon's shit up. It blew it, Craig. It's the second most viewed interview on, oh yeah, on YouTube right now at 50-something million. He bout to catch Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan's got the number one interview on YouTube. But his is right there and it happened like that. Joe Rogan been on there for years. It was about a, it was about an alien. Some dude said he seen aliens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You seen it? Yeah, yeah. But now, you know, I just saw yesterday he did a- Monique. Monique. That one going crazy too. That one going crazy. And Monique was classy. You know what I mean? Did you like it? I haven't seen it. I only saw one part where she talked about Tiffany. I've seen a little bit over the two. She was just talking about Tiffany. I didn't see that part. What did she say? Apparently, Tiffany said something about her husband. And Monique was saying, well, you know, well, because if maybe if you had a husband, you wouldn't have two deities. Maybe if you had a husband- Oh, damn. You wouldn't be in all this stuff. I didn't see that part. And so, you know, when we start having open, here's what I'm saying. I'm going to stand by what I say. You know, I ain't scared of no ditty, but he's a dirty dog. Damn. You know what I mean? He a dirty dog. He a dirty dog. You're going to have to treat a Cassie like that for real? He's going to get everything that he got coming through. Do you believe in Cassie? I believe everything that's been alleged. Wow. Do you feel more people are going to come out? When he locked up, because people are scared of him. I ain't scared of ditty. Do you know what I mean? You think he'll get locked up? He on his way, man. You can't run from this forever. I don't care how much money you got. Because people feel like because of the money that he's not going to get. Yeah, I mean, I don't care how high up you at. It's the QVD thing anyway, organized towards this. Think about QVD comes out and says that P did it and all this. It's a bunch going over P did it at this home. It's like a... That all was true. I mean, I knew that when I was a kid, because I grew up in these streets. Right. So I knew that's the, we've been known that story. That's not, that was not no new news for anybody from the West Coast, or anybody that grew up out here in South Central. About the Chupac and... Yeah, or anybody that, you know, came up in the streets with real gang members, knowing you are living in hoods with real gang members. You heard the chatter, you know what I mean? Coming up right after Chupac died. It shook up our whole city. Yeah. You know what I mean? So, you know, everybody was talking and then these needs came back from Vegas talking. You know, a lot of the cops was talking, you know, flexing, you know what I'm saying? It was that, you know what I mean? The gang banging, especially back then, it's, you know, it still go hard, but back then these was, that was a stripe. But it was unfortunate. There's no conspiracy about Chupac. You know, I think people want to, he's alive and there's no, Chupac was, they weren't going to kill Chupac. Did, did, did he make that offer to Kiwi D? I believe he did. I don't know. I believe he did. Did Kiwi take that offer? No, they did not. You know what I mean? Did not. But once some stuff went down in Vegas, had Chupac just not participated in that incident. He would have still been here. That was some real gang, some gang related shit. That was different from Biggie. Now you got to ask- Was you here when Biggie got killed here? Now you got to ask, did Puff has something to do with Biggie? Biggie. Did I mean? It's crazy, man, that all this stuff spiraling, like you said- They talk about sacrificing. It's coming back, you know, it's coming back forth for anything you do, you reap what you sow. So if we plant bad seeds, we'll get bad harvest. It's coming out eventually. So you went through a lot in your career. A lot of people watched you. A lot of people say you went through a bad, horrible thing, marriage, it was all across the board. Everything was connected though. And catch this, why did I go through all of that stuff? You went through a lot. Because I never gave in. I never gave in. Because it's the same thing people always do. I get where he's going. I get where he's going. Could the same thing they said about Jamie, that all of a sudden when he got sick and stuff like that, I said something happened reason why all of a sudden all this bad stuff started happening. Right, right, and you know, my wife was a part of that, you know, she was in the business on a higher level than I was just in my ex-wife, not my wife. Right, right, right. So she knew the dark side of the game. I was still green. I was still green. And once I was then conformed to the dark side of the game, oh, they was gonna take me out. If we can't kill him, nobody wanted to fight me for real. No, and they knew, you know, nobody wanted to pull up. I was with the functions. Yeah, yeah. Still am, but I ain't gonna fight nobody, but I'm still with the function. I will protect me and mine. That's right. At all times. So I got a question, because when this, you know, the bad events started happening after that, is there any cause to say, man, if you had just, da, da, da, you know. No, everybody turned their back, you know what I mean? Like, we got him, we killed him. If you can't kill the man, you gotta kill his name. Exactly. And there's no, you know, it was a hard battle to fight misnomers. And I wasn't doing myself any favors because I was hurt. I was going through a dark time personally from that. How did they, I mean, when you look at it, everybody taught, it was talking down. Everybody, your attitude, your way, your habits, whatever was, you said, alcohol, everything they could think of possibly. How did you, how did, how are you still standing today? Right. By the grace of God, one. Man, that's beautiful. Also, the ones, the people that I have no respect for had the unmitigated gall to speak on anything in my life, how dare they, and they're gonna get their judgment not by me, but by God, period point blank. And because that was strategic and karma's real, and don't speak on God's child, because watch what happens. And everything negative that was spoken is everything that has breathed a life into me, to be honest with you, not to prove anything to anyone, but to myself, to my family, and to God that, you know, no weapon formed against me, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, play in. That's it. That's it. Wow. Okay, after you guys did that movie, Stump to Yardee, did you and Chris Brown, y'all ever talk again? Oh yeah, it was tight. Me and Chris was tight, and I love him to this day. Shout out, Chris. Chris Brown. Because this Christmas came after Stump to Yardee? Yeah, we did Stump first, then this Christmas, and we kicked it all the time. I mean, we was, it's my brother to this day. It's just that people, he is in his life, aren't the people I can be around, you know what I'm saying? And that's, you know, I'm no judgment to Chris, one of the most talented individuals. And he cold, you cold. Yeah, and it's like, you know, we're gonna have our reunion soon, but you know, it's people make decisions in their life, and you know, sometimes those decisions separate good family, good relationships. That's good that you're aware of that and know that, you know what, as much as I love you, I gotta step back because this is just not a good environment for me. Yeah, and you know, as he continues to grow as a man and evolve as an artist and evolve as a father, everything gonna come back around. Wow, this Christmas, when you, cause I never really asked you about this movie, like when you guys were doing this Christmas, it was such a, I watch it every year too. Yeah, every year. Five times, 10 times. He's telling me this is the only Christmas movie I don't wanna watch. I watch my boy, Columbus. Really more now, I'm like, nigga turn it on. That's what I'm watching. You know what I'm saying? Like so. They need something else. Yeah, but y'all got the number one, Beary. Yeah, we got another one coming. We got something else coming up. Awesome. Wow, but like how was it working with, who else did you know your boy was in there? What's his name? Last. Last. Entress, all of them. I mean, not to this day. That was a, we were a family, you know? I called Loretta any time I see a mom, you know, Delroy Lindo, that's, you know, Pops. The entire cast, Lazzalanzo, Keith, Lauren, London, Sharon Leal, Regina King, we were, you know, we had a ball. We laughed. They, sometimes it was just hard for us to even get through takes because we was just being so crazy. What's your favorite part of the whole movie? Favorite part of the whole movie, honestly, was when we danced at the end. It was just fun. Dude, I felt that. I felt that. We had a ball. That was real, real, real. We was last day of production and we thought we was going home. They said, no, no, no, we're gonna turn on some music. We just turn on the cameras and y'all just do a cell train line. And we was like, oh, so we was ourselves and we just had fun. That was, that was, but the whole movie was great. But it started off like that and it ended like that. It was the same, it was the same dance and I knew it was. Cause you could tell the energy was the same. Great, you know what I mean? Yeah, we had a ball doing that. My favorite part. Guess what part is my favorite part? The part where Regina King. I knew you were gonna say it. I knew you were gonna say it. Oh, I cracked up on that. That's one of my favorite parts, yeah. Oh yeah, she got it. Oh yeah, that's class, that's cinema history there. That was beautiful, man. So now, okay, when you look at all these Tubi, I'm gonna ask, you know, ask Phaeton, he said, cause I am on the Tubi. Like, Tubi is, is, is Fox Ones Tubi, right? Now. And it's growing, I know. Scandals on Tubi now. Tubi, it is. It is. They just picked it up last year. So what do you think about Tubi? I was just asking, how far is the opportunity to provide? I didn't think about Tubi. You know, I would do some movies, no offense to some people out there, you know, just to keep some change, keep the lights on. Yeah, yeah. That I would think was not gonna see it a lot of day, but Tubi. Picks it up. Picks it, picks them up. Yeah. You know, you're like, damn, that movie came out, man. I mean, you know, I don't even know what I'm doing. No, that's good. I've seen a couple of them with you, and I love doing that. No, but they pick it up because to me, you're a certain caliber of actor, no matter what movie it is. So for them to have that on their platform coming up, it makes it, their platform looks a certain way. So then they reach out to me and they said, hey, we got, would Columbus be interested in ABC, or Scandal reached out to my wife, would Columbus be interested in promoting that Scandal's on Tubi? I said, Scandal, like, what, an episode? No, the whole series. I said, okay. I said, let me pray about this. But no, I posted it and it's a good thing, you know, because now it's reintroducing the series to those that didn't catch it. That's right. And, you know, meeting the people where they are, it did wonderful for me, did wonderful for Kerry, it did wonderful for our culture to see, you know, African-Americans are number one and number two on the call sheet on a network television series, but with high level content, political drama, you know, high level content, not just, you know, television fodder. So I'm excited for it to be on Tubi, and I'm excited for the residual checks. Rummy that. Yay! We're in the back. Rummy that. I gotta ask you that. Hold on, hold on. We're talking about a Cat Williams with, we're going back to that. But no, did you get to see Monique? Yeah, we just talked about it. Oh, I thought so. But I'm about to bring that back up though, because Monique said something about, what's that, Monique, the one that she did, what's the her job? Parkers. The Parkers, she said, and I thought it was good. She said she made 55,000 right there in episode. I'm like, that's not bad. And she was mad about it. I didn't think, is that good? So I'm asking you, is that bad? That was bad, because schedule, well, at that time, that schedule left. Schedule left when I was doing Scandal, I think I was making $75,000 a week. But that's a way after the Parkers. But $75,000 a week is scheduled left. That's the lowest they can pay you as a lead. Oh, oh, we didn't know. So as a lead, that's the lowest you can get pay for the first three seasons. I'm not sure how many seasons the Parkers did. They did a lot, they did a lot. After the third season, you can renegotiate based on the success of the show. That's where people go from $75,000 a week to $750,000 a week. You gotta help me on this, bro. So whatever happened after the third season, I mean, if they kept her at that number, that's ridiculous. But you gotta help me on this, because I know people, when you sign these contracts, when you deal with these deals, is it something you can't negotiate? Not negotiable over here. $75,000 when you renegotiate, it's just like the NBA. First three, you signed them for three seasons. Correct. Boom, on your rookie contract, when the third season is. That was another thing that was happening too. When on the scandal, my third season, that next fourth season, I was about to be on some friends' cash, like friends looking like Matthew Perry out here. You know what I'm saying? I was about to be looking like Charlie Sheen out here. Okay. Or minus the tiger's blood. So I was about to be making some heavy money. Right. And I think that scared some people. But nonetheless, whatever, that was wrong. And they've wildly mistreated Monique. I hate it. I hate how they treated her. She's so talented. And because she tells the truth, they scared, they hate it. What do they hate? Voiced just black people. Yeah. Don't shut your mouth. What'd they tell LeBron? Shut up and shoot. Shoot. Play. Shut up and dribble. Shut up and dribble. Excuse me? So, you know what I mean? I think now it's the cat said this is right. 2024 is a year of the truth. Well, tell the truth. I mean, you know, I'm not scared of nothing. You can't kill me twice. And you know, it allows, I was in this model my whole life though, like every so often reinvent yourself, state to your core values, the truths of who you are, integrity, morality, you know, loyalty, dignity, class, discipline. But then reinvent yourself. That's real. You know, reinvent yourself. You don't have to be stuck in one thing your whole life. And educate yourself. And stay educated. Have to. Could be a consummate student. Kobe taught me that. You know, we're never too old to study. We have to be learning every day. In this generation, do you see more and more people talking about, talking out? Could even with Taraji. Taraji spoke out about it as well. Yeah, because they're feeling safer. But there, some people are, there's, there's two sides of this. There's people just cloud chasing, right? I just want to say something just to, you know, Cassidy got that 30 million out of me. Now, everybody telling on story. Girl, that happened in 1972. You just now, you talking about what? Big daddy came to do, you know. And it now drives through in Los Angeles, 1978. You know what I'm saying? Like, okay, like we, we, come on, man. But you know what I'm saying? But there's no statute on certain things. But I mean, you know, there's, you got to fight with Method Man in a hotel room, you know, back in 1991. I mean, come on. But the stuff that is relevant is you got to, we don't know what kind of recovery that happened. You know, mental PTSD and scars and damages that, by speaking about it, by being able to come out and say, this happened to me. And now it's not having this thing that's, you know, preferably this dark cloud that's over your life affecting your interpersonal relationships with your spouse or interpersonal relationships with a significant other. Are your kids, are your family members because of some damages that's been happening to you? You know, sometimes the only freedom is to speak. Wow. But bullying come apart too, because then yes, you have that freedom now with your family, but then if you're a person that look on social media and read these comments and stuff like that, then. That's where you got to be thick-skinned. If you're gonna come out here and be prepared to get some clap back, some fire, some shots back, you better have on a Teflon vest. Right? So, you know, that's why I don't read it. Sometimes I read the comments, sometimes I don't want one. Yeah, cause you respond. Yo, I come, I clap, I clap back. I'm like, Katie, it can clap back. It can clap back. It can clap back. It can clap back. It can clap back. If I'm feeling froggy, I might leap out there, you know? Yeah. But, you know, like, Katie, a clap back, but somebody told me a long time ago when, you know, dead or like a movie review was coming out or when, you know, movies were coming out and I'd be so nervous opening weekend, like, what's this movie gonna do and like, what the reviews are, what's Ebert gonna see? You said, you know what I mean? What's the back when Cisco was a little, I was like, what's Cisco and Ebert gonna say? And they say, if you're gonna read the positive ones, you gotta read the bad ones too, or not, don't read them at all. So people got comments, you know, with comments, people, I advise everybody, whether you're famous, whether you're not, be easy on the comments and people be easy on people that are in the public eye that post, be easy on what you say in the comments because a lot of people out here wouldn't be able to stand out here for two seconds without being broke down to their first molecule. No, that's so true, man. You, like I said, when I think about you, man, the way you snap in the character, man, you are blessed, not only are you blessed, but you're so talented, bro. Thank you, man. I appreciate that. Like, to even see you on 2B, to be honest with you, it pushes that platform up because your acting ability is so real, bro. And I don't care. Bro, you are beast, man. That's a good point. I told, you know, whether I'm on 2B, whether I'm on... No matter where you at. I have to do... Once they say action, I have to do my job. You a beast, bro? I have to do my job. I'm telling you. Yeah, man, I just... If it wasn't, I'd be real with you. You really bring it. Like, you made, you... Man, you so... Is he underrated? Yeah. Very much so. Well, whether underrated, at least maybe I'm rated, could be rated, I'm going to continue to do good work. You killed it. And, you know, that's the blessing of it all. Growing up in this business, I am a master of my craft in filmmaking, television. And so now it's like, I'm making it. I'm not calling nobody, you know, waiting on, sitting in my house, waiting for somebody to call me with my phone or send me a script. I've been due diligence. My due diligence has been on point. I mean, I've been writing. I've been, I have a full slate of film, television, partnering with strategic, strategic, partnering with finance, financiers and big money backers that I'm making my own movies and putting other talent, putting other talented artists in position to be successful and giving them shots because, you know, damn the gatekeepers that they don't have enough talent and they pinky to dance with us, right? So, yeah, it's a new day and we're going to keep grinding. Well, last time, have you spoken with Megan Good or any of those? Oh, now since she's been in the land of Jonathan Majors. Oh, yeah, that's a different land, man. That was crazy because a lot of people say, they talk about him in a way that where they say he only came back over here because, you know, he got into it with the girl, with the, you know what I mean? Went through a situation. I mean, if you get woe out by a white girl, what else you gonna do? You gonna make home, home, home, home, home, home. You told me nothing, that's what you did. You told me to leave that one alone. Were you surprised to see Megan with him? No. You wasn't? Really? Jonathan's a wonderful actor. And, you know, and he's an incredible artist and incredible mind. She's fascinated with minds. It's my sis, man. She's a wonderful soul. And I thought that was a good look. I didn't know everything Jonathan was going through, you know? And for her to be rocking by a side, she's a G for that. Yeah, she did. She's a G for that. And that's not for a look. Megan wouldn't do it for a look. And I feel for Jonathan. Cause you could see in the video, the man clearly, yeah, she got his phone. He struggled, had a struggle, got his phone and got the hell on. That nigga was running like Darkwing Duck. Megan, he was, he was out. Man, I ain't never seen a nigga run that fast in some all saints boots in a three quarter length. There's some skinny jeans. He was like running a four four out there. No, man, stop it, man. He had that quarter of a pume gone. Like that was on the video. Y'all crazy. So let me ask you this, it's a dilemma. They said, if you don't put the dress on, you won't get the money. As a man, break down the dress scenario in this world. All right, all right. Man, I had an opinion about this and Marlon Wayans really made me look at it different. So there is a, there's two sides to it. Like I think there's, I would never, I would model my career after some great leading men. Somebody brought a dress in? No, no. And you would never? I wouldn't, I wouldn't. I mean, why? It's not your thing. It's not me, that's not my, that's not my, that's not my artistic choices. That's not, that's not, you know, just like, I'm no problem, you know, with anyone's sexuality, but I just do, I mean, I wouldn't play a gay man. Cause I don't know what that's it. I don't know what that is. I wouldn't be able to like, to play a gay, to play a gay man, look at this, to play a gay man. Now, just because they say action, they always find reality in what I do. So I kiss a man on screen, I'm gonna go home tonight, being like, damn, I just kissed this nigga. Like now I'm like, I'm gonna be questioning everything about me. Did I, I mean, I don't wanna have those questions. I got too many other questions going on. I'm like, man, I'm fucked around and kissed this man. What have you liked it? Exactly. I fucked your whole shit up. He called you at night and like, hey man. He didn't really want it. That was a great scene. Ah, man. I knew it. Ah, man, you know, it's too much, man, I can't. So those are things that, you know, I mean, you know, that's just not me. But for the dress theme, Marlon made a great point. Marlon said, you know, nobody said nothing when Robin Williams played Mrs. Daffyre. Exactly. And he heard her down, you know, Tootsie. Yeah. With my man. So, you know, I don't know. I just know for me personally, that's just my thing. But Marlon, they were genius. They were genius as white girls. That was their choice. Hollywood didn't tell them to do that. That's them being funny. And that's their range of comedic expression. They'll go all the way, they don't care. I just don't feel like I need to put on no dress. I'm a man, I'm a leading man. For sure. And I wanna play multiple strong leading men. And there's other part of that. I feel like there is a silent agenda to de-masculate the African-American males. Males. And the more I see it, the more I kinda wanna hold my ground. The day you see Denzel in dress, call me back on Boss Talk. Wow. It ain't happening. That's never gonna happen. It ain't happening. Or even Samuel L. Jackson. The day you see Samuel L. in a dress, put me back on Boss Talk. It's not gonna happen. So how did you like, Drake had his album last one. I know you listen to music a lot, you're a musician. How did you like Drake's last project? It was cool. It was cool. I'm waiting for Usher to drop. Usher's gonna drop too. I've heard a few that y'all ain't heard. His stuff, it'll be crazy. Man, this music, how do you feel music? The music industry is doing right now. It's kind of, man, the Grammys was kind of. You seen that? They rest and kill a mic. Kill a mic. You know they rest. What was that about? Kill a mic. What the hell is that about? Because kill a mic is hot on that mic. And when he, he could have said anything about Biden. He could have affected the culture. They don't want him up there. He don't have him on that mic. Whatever. He could arrest that nigga. For nothing. Get the nigga out of here. Yeah, put him, lock him up. But I think the music like R&B, rap. Kill a mic had an album with content. It killed. It was good, man. That whole solid, it was insane. He was hitting everything. He was in cylinders. He always do that. This ain't his first time doing that, bro. So that's why I've been working diligent. My album is dropping in April. It's finally doing. Oh wow. And bringing real music back. Yeah. Or music science. Can't wait to hear it. Yeah, I'm excited for it. You know, y'all gonna get an exclusive. That's all. You gonna come and let me just, you know, just vibe. We gonna vibe and talk through the album. I know it's gonna have a lot of instruments in it. It's going to, it's going to. He ain't gonna play with it. No, it's, we ain't played with it. We, it's taking me. A long time. In a long time, I have over like 500 records recorded, cut. How many songs are you giving us? I'm gonna do a Hot 8. But the interludes, it's gonna be a musical journey, a story, it's called headlines. So it's taking you from everything, from the fall from scandal to where we are now. And just through song and interlude stories. But it's gonna be a piece of music science. And that's what the Academy judges you on. I'm upset with the music cause, you know, I'm a four, five minute, you know, song type nigga. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, back when Prince was having, back when Prince was having that. I like for the four, five songs. You hear me? I like the song to go, listen man, five. I'm in that whole vibe and it was one, Lenny, it went forever. It felt forever. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na. Oh, oh, and I cry. I cry. We going for five, six minutes. Five, six minutes. They don't do that no more. It's two minutes. But it's kinda, no shade of scissors. I mean, the number one, to be that big of a record about a double homicide? Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah. This is the thing. I mean, we gotta start. So am I wrong for things like that? No, you're not wrong for it. We love music. But you know, what did our parents say to y'all when you started listening to what you listened to? They thought we were crazy. I would say I took my mom from Marvin Gaye to Too Short. That's messed up, bro. That's messed up. Too Short and Luke. Right, right. I'm gonna throw that D. That's what the song said. I got it playing. You're like, what the hell am I doing? She said, cut it out from my house. Get out of my house, boy. You better get the hell out of my house. But I'm glad that they bring Afro beats. Bringing in the, That is good music. That's good music. You saw how the whole, I like the vibe, man. The Grammys, when that man got up there with that, it was just, boom, those voices, that's from the motherland. You can't play with it. You can't play with it. If you don't move to that, you don't got to sew. Out the women is the word. I don't think I watched this. All the women dancing in Africa now. It ain't like it used to be. You know, used to their breasts out and everything. They ain't like that no more. They got clothes on, their hair done, and they, every beat just, I'm loving it. This is our people, man. Have you ever played an African actor? I did. And the movie didn't come out. What? But yeah, cause they ain't out of money. But yeah, I play, man, I do dialects. I do accents, man. You could do the African dialect? Oh my God. Oh my God. You come, you cut. Oh my God. You call me to come to your show, okay? You do not know I can do it. What I come from, okay? I know all kinds of women, okay? Women like, huh? Women like, huh? Okay? And you come to me to say, if I'm from the motherland. Okay, oh my God, you know what I'm saying, boy. I know all kinds of women. Oh wow. See, man, what is Club Shashi doing to our people? It's, it's, it's. What is, I mean, they said I was starting trouble. You know what I'm saying? They say I was starting trouble. They say I was messing up. The comedians was arguing on my channel. But at the end of the day, Club Shashi got me beat by a long shot. Nah, but you, but you not, see, Shannon's just striking, striking to mess. You know, we like mess. We watch love and hip hop. We watch real house while. Shannon got the drink and everything. He said, come on, I got to take him in the drink. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, but you just keep on bringing on the right guests. You know, I'm always short. No, you're my guy. You know, I got some tea. If I got some tea on the back of the chair. What the hell are you doing? I'm, what are you doing? Cheers to that. I'm here. You know, I'm here whenever you need me. What's the name of your TV series that you said coming out? It's called Mind Your Business. What? That's a hard name. Yeah. I like that. I like that. I like it. It's called Mind Your Business. And of course it's about minding your business. Minding my business, minding my family's business. Yeah. Hey, when is it coming out? June. June. And I'm about to get you up out of here, but who is your, when you think about it, like your top comedian, cause you love comedians, top three comedians of all time. Top three all time. Top three all time. Richard Pryor, Dave Chappelle. You love Dave. Love him. Love him. You seen him? He had a lot to say about the cat, would he? Yeah, yeah, he did. Do you know what? Cat's sneaking up in there. Oh, Cat's sneaking up in there. Wow. I mean, he got me, he be having me crying. I can't, I gotta go off my visceral reaction. If I, some comedians I watch and I'm not laughing. You know, I'm, you know, they're smart. Yeah. You know, there's some good jokes, maybe they land a few, but Cat be having me crying. Dave be having me weak. Yeah. Because he just tells the story to Richard, I watched, cause I've been studying Richard lately. I watched live and concerts the other day and Richard was just talking, he wasn't telling jokes. Yeah. He was just telling stories about, you know, him and his observation and lens on life. So my favorite comedian is top five, you know, Dave Spill, Richard Pryor, Cat Williams, Martin. Martin the Beast. Jamie Foxx. Jamie Foxx. That's the one. Those are my guys. Man. Andy Murphy. Do you think you could be in a movie with Cat Williams? Of course. Oh, you could kill him. Because Cat Williams being in a movie with me. There you go. There you go. Say, what about your boy Mike, man? Have you heard from Mike Tyson anymore? You did that, Mike. Oh, no, no. That's my favorite clip from you. Mike is just laying low right now. He's just, you know, he's just down. It's the bottom line right now. He's just focused on the camera. He's just right there. But he's still fighting me. He's still punching. I still punch him. Man. Is there any portrayal of any true life story? Because I know you'd love to do research that you feel like you could really like, this needs to be a movie and I need to play that part. Oh, yeah, I got him already. I'm going to do this. It's a biopic called LSD I wrote. It's about Doc Ellis. He threw a no hitter on LSD back in 1979. We played for the Pittsburgh Pirates. So that's a story to be told. There's so many stories to be told about our people that are far outside of us being slaves. So those are the stories I'm focused on. Wow, thank you so much, Coach. Absolutely. How can people get a hold of you if they're trying to link? You're going to have to pray. No, I'm playing. No, you can hit me on social, add official C-short on IG. That's it, that's about it. That's it. You know, I've kind of tried to stay under the radar and let my life, my kids, my wife, my family be protected from outside of the limelight and let my work speak for itself. I forgot to say Eddie Griffin is good too. Oh, he great. Eddie Griffin? He's fine. Eddie Griffin is fine. I know him. I got to say him. I can't see him. There you go. They old school. That's the squad. There's a whole team. Jack Gai, Tori, Joe Tori. All of those aforementioned people. You know what I mean? They alpha. All right, so guys, we got to set it down. Look at them all. Oh, my boy, look at that. Thank you so much. 2024, we coming in hot. We coming in hot. We coming in hot. Coming in hot. Check it, man. Thank you so much for coming on the show. I appreciate it. We love you, bro. We love you too, man. It's been another great segment. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Make sure you watch all of the clips. Columbus Short Clips is coming out after this full interview has dropped, so y'all better get down and check it out. Check it, man. I'm sad. Allah, y'all. Peace. Hala.