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Across all my social in this particular session we dive into an interview that looks at different ways we can learn through trivial questions and the trivial in this particular situation well we have numerous questions it and quiz masters all right so it's a blend of education and it and entertainment form of learning simple through asking questions so in studio I am joined by David Gray a cool name by the way he's the CEO of quiz masters creatives hello there great how are you doing all right welcome to Y254 channel entrepreneurship Tuesday so for someone who's watching this and I've already mentioned quiz master yes quiz master quiz master is a fancy way of saying a teacher yes because being a quiz master is all about asking questions and if you think about it Michelle since you were born all of us since we were born we have been asked we have either asked questions or we have been asked questions and that is how you actually get to learn exactly so as quiz masters we now take that element of asking questions and now making it into a business because we have an opportunity whereby people can be able to learn and also get entertained using questions before you venture into the trivia industry yes what was David doing prior to this before venturing into trivia I cannot remember my life without trivia because it has it started way back when I was in primary school yes that is yes that is where it all began the journey began and I took part in a quiz show when I was in standard seven and it was aired in on KBC it was called the blue band quiz show and it was featuring primary schools teams competing against each other right so that is when I fell in love with matters trivia because it was all about asking questions on matters general knowledge on things that you do not get to learn while you're in class which are not in the curriculum and it's basically just meant to spur curiosity amongst the people who are competing against each other all right however moving forward I also took part in another show which was now pitting universities teams across Africa and again it was a very good opportunity for me to meet people from across Africa from different universities and again just take part in a mind-sparing session and find out which was the best team and that was like around 10 years ago and after that after short stint in employment just after university I decided to just make this a full-time business yes all right the trivia industry has now picked up in Kenya compared to other countries like India UK yes how was it for you penetrating the market considering it's a business now yes yes so in terms of penetrating trivia has always been there in one form or the other in forms of various shows on TV from the likes of omu pick a box which was aired way back it was also a form of a trivia show when we came back to blue band quiz show which was featuring primary school children then we have who wants to be a millionaire which was featuring people who are adults moving forward to who's matter now we have zen africa challenge and we have the quiz show right now so quizzes have always been there in one form or the other but in terms of making it a business there's lack of that uptake because perhaps the knowledge of that that possibility is not there and I think that is now where the opportunity lies for everyone who is watching right now okay what I'm getting is the fact that the trivia industry has been there yes for way back also when you want to actually do giveaways to our viewers probably in December holiday season we ask particular questions exactly now let's look at you changing the whole aspect of it as a business how you making money out of this so how we make money out of quizzes is when two ways when a corporate company approaches us to educate the masses on their products and again we shall we do them we do that using questions either whether it is physically or online right now since now we are now getting into online and in another way we also use quizzes during team building sessions whereby teams come together they form teams and they compete against each other all right so we always get hired by companies to help them to curate quizzes on their behalf that is how we make our money all right yes for much of sale it's clear that your target market is quite broad yes and let's break it down if I want to be a quiz master yes what is the process what are the what do you look at and be like that one can actually be a you know like a pro in this that would be like that you're called out to be a quiz master what is the process like what does it take it is very simple to be a quiz master you just need to have the passion for sharing knowledge yes sharing knowledge so even if you are in any other profession if you have that passion to just go out there and share what you know that is enough to make you a quiz master I'm a trained teacher and that is really helped in terms of being a quiz master because I literally just moved my teaching process from the classroom to now outside the classroom all right and you also need to be very curious and knowledgeable and most importantly well spoken because you need to also ask questions very coherently all right and you're going to actually see a live yes procedure of that so let allow me to take you back yes you have a background in teaching right and how long has the quiz masters creatives been there been there for so in terms of being there as an entity yes as an entity yes as an entity we have been there for the last eight years eight years yes however since I told you that I had a stint in employment so doing it as a full-time business for the last three years okay yes three years yes now you're in need full-time it's a business yes you moved from formal employment to a buy you are assured of you know at the end of the month yes you get your income too you're risking it all for this particular industry yes we'll give you that confident and what did you see in this in the market cap that you decided you know what I'm going to I'm going to go all in full time yeah as you rightly put it there is that opportunity whereby the potential customer base is literally from the youngins to the adults so literally we can have quizzes for schools for primary schools for high schools for universities for corporate companies and for the masses we also organize quiz nights and quiz nights is whereby people come together when you're going out let's say with friends instead of just going out and just sharing banter and having a think of your choice what you can do is you can go to a place whereby there's a quiz night which is organized by quiz masters to learn something new while you are enjoying yourselves with the company of your friends so people come together and they compete against each other then a corporate sponsor comes in and sponsors the prize for the winning team all right so that is how there is that entertainment element of being a quiz master yes interesting okay that makes me question the different packages that the company offers apart from the the night the night reveals yes what are different packages that service says that the company offers because your target market is quite broad yes so in terms of different packages I've just mentioned we literally do anything pertaining to quizzes so literally when we have a company or an individual or an institution which wants us to curate questions for them we come in on board and do exactly that whereby we can have a custom made quiz which is now custom made for a particular company or to particular institution with specific questions relating to them or just having pure general knowledge questions which now has again a very broad aspect because we have from current affairs we have history we have geography we have logos we have movies music you can ask anything under the sun all right and the beauty about this is knowledge is churned out every single day information is churned out every single day and that provides enough content for us to ask questions all right yes that's so true hold that thought David will be right back and get to know more about the trivia industry and all about the quiz master so make sure don't add that down we'll be right back you're going to follow my show break all right welcome back to Intervision Tuesday on one in the morning we're talking about the travel the trivia industry quiz masters and we have a quiz master on board David Gray and he was taking us so he was taking us through the whole uh trivia question and how it yeah you know it goes down so right now David will be telling us what the whole live session entails and how we can go about it all right yes so if you're watching at home you have the opportunity today to take part in a live trivia session and if you can see your screen you have a code what you need to do is if you have a phone you can take part in this quiz from wherever you are all right you can take part in this quiz and you need to do is go to your web browser and type in www.kahoot.it that is k-a-h-l-o-t .it then once you do that you'll input the code which is 9981940 then you'll be able to see yourself choose your nickname your desired nickname keep it creative and once you do that you'll be able to see yourself logged in on the screen and we shall take part in a six question live trivia session I hope um Michelle will give us a prize yeah okay for the winner however yes now get on with it if you're watching at home you can do that kahoot.it then the code is 9981940 and I can see we have three people who have joined in well done yeah we have dead bone we have double a and we have black bird yes and as we move on we shall start in the next few minutes yeah so it's as simple as that you don't need uh there's no subscription fee it's just your data yes you're good to go yes all right so if there's no any subscription fee from the guys who are joining in and participating and enjoying uh the trivia questions and just engaging entertaining educational at the same time how are you guys making money on a platform like this so when we use such a platform what normally happens is um we use this platform when we have a client who needs to have a session run for them then they're the ones who end up paying for the people who are participating however we have scenarios whereby participants also get a chance to pay for participating in such a trivia session and this normally happens when we're having physical quizzes whereby people come in and they pay a small fee which is now will which will either come um go to pay us or will form part of um of the what of the prize money that will be offered to the winners all right so more guys are actually logging in yes we have keep saviour and jazz so guys make sure you continue so you head on to www.kahoot.it.it from your phone or laptop okay yes the comfort of where you are exactly as long as you have data exactly no subscription fee exactly so from there then you'll take us to what's the next step right yes should we take over or wait a little bit longer yes let's wait for a little bit longer okay yes all right so um David right so looking back for this particular three years that you've been into full time in your own business right what a couple of highlights that you look back it'll be like I don't regret it I don't regret leaving employment to getting into self employment yeah my highlights is really holding events I have a passion for holding events I've been doing that for quite a number of years and I enjoy bringing people together all right and I believe that by holding such events it's very easy to get to meet people and the movers and shakers in in in this country something else is building something for the future because when you talk about employment it is equally as good however since I've talked about the fact that this has been a passion for quite a number of years building it from scratch has been quite the journey okay and another highlight which may sound very skewed is covid yes because covid presented a totally fresh opportunity to take quiz masters into another line of operation now doing quizzes online yes because previously we were doing it physically that is pre covid but now during covid and now post we are definitely focusing on taking quizzes online from Kenya to the world the trivia industry actually is one of the businesses that did well during the recession period in the country yes yes I definitely would concur with that and this is actually from across the world across the world you've talked about the fact that in the UK in India in America these industries are thriving industry and in this case in Kenya it has also been a beautiful opportunity for us to create something new I don't want to mention that it was quite some it was it was it wasn't easy when starting up this business and the fact that covid played a part but I would like to find out what were the major ways like you organized your business so that they equals you know it could be effective into the market and just to reach out to your target masses the beautiful thing is we were very present pre covid and we had the opportunity to take it online and since we also have a very rich social media following it was a very awesome opportunity for us to literally create something new yes so far how many guys we have seven people who have joined in from wherever they are perhaps if you're having any kind of difficulty in joining in you can again use your phone kahoot.it then the game pin is 9981940 and I will propose that we begin now okay just because we can yes and I think we have as the numbers continue to increase yes so far we are nine yes nine guys have joined in so yeah so this will be a general knowledge question and answer session and you'll be answering from your mobile phone all right and these questions will be showing on screen all right so we're starting in the next how will you know the answer the person who give the right answer you will see from the platform just soon enough all right so if you are ready from wherever you are we are starting the next five four three two and one let's do this my friends all right so general knowledge round starting now two one and the first question is on a standard vertical traffic light is the green on the top or the bottom is it red at the top blue at the bottom or orange at either position so we have people answering you can see one answer has been keyed in so far yes and then there's a timer yes the timer this is 44 seconds and counting we had one minute to answer this particular question but I shall give you 30 seconds because this is a simple question and I can see most of us have been able to answer so far yes so let's see the standings and oof oof people do not know their traffic lights my friend ah the answer is at the bottom with no one getting it correct ah yes the traffic lights red orange green with no one getting it correct let's see the standings standings is the same pimwangi in first place from wherever you are x1 x1 five second place blackbird double a and dead bone next question is number two we have we have in red we have we have in red we have in blue we have in orange or kuma chungua in green exactly now people have gotten the clue and we have seven people let us see kuma chungua we have ten answers now and if you're watching right now you can still join in go to kahoot.it then enter the game pane which is 9981940 and i can see we have eleven players who have answered and the answer is kutoa ganda la chungua with five of you getting it correct well done from wherever you are yes as you said niku pil ma chungua exactly exactly so let's see so we have kid now in first place well done kid from wherever you are we have smalls in second place jazz in third Jeremy in fourth and savior in fifth yes now you're feeling it in third question is number three where can you find the humerus again this is very simple we have in the upper arm in red in a joke in blue in the womb in orange or in the lower arm in green humerus tell us would you and we have one answer kid in so far humerus humerus yes once i'm you are very humorous but again where do you find the humerus eight answers kid in so far the humerus is in a joke ah in a joke that is if i find if you find the humerus humorous yes you'll find it in a joke however where do you find the humerus this is now in matters of biology so you see this we have gone from kiss wildly to biology in the upper arm in the upper arm we have 13 answers kid in so far and the answer is in the upper arm with six of you getting it correct well done yes humerus is here standings are let's see we have now jazz is now in first place because he was faster in answering or she was depending on who jazz is we have saving second place kid in third smalls in fourth and blackbird in the top five next question is number four again another question which side of a woman's blouse are the buttons fitted interesting i can actually say on the right on the left in orange or blouses do not need buttons lol in blue which side of a woman's buttons blouse are the buttons fitted on the right in red we have on the left in orange or we have blue blouses don't need buttons who will key in blue blouse don't need buttons and we have two of us kids in so far and let's see we shall and the answer is on the left are they on the left let's confirm uh yes they're well done so four beginning it correct standings are let's see we have jazz maintaining first place kid in second place now edu easy in third saving fourth and smalls in the top five jazz is our highest climber up three places awesome next question is number five type your answer what is the first name of our hosts yes type in your answer yes now not you as a host so if you're watching at home what is the first name of our hosts yes let's see who can spell your name oh i don't see that ashera because it is the first name we are we are asking not the second name all right and we have seven answers kidding so far i can see we have people who definitely know yes they should know who you are yes yes they should yes they should let's see even on your social handles as well they should know as well they should follow you as well as i said okay i'll tell you so we have okay let's see we have kahoot ashira michel ashira idk ashira michel is two of you getting it correct is that the spelling of your name yes it is yes so two of you getting it correct the rest biting the dust standings are let's see now who knows we have blackbird from obscurity now in first place jazz in second place kid in third edu easy in fourth and savior in the top five and the last question is number six which number code can you sms y254 channel again type in your answer my friends yes to reach out to michelle or to y254 yes i hope the caption is on your screen though exactly yes let's see let's see who will be on top who will get this right this quiz with a bang yes and we have two answers kidding so far with 37 seconds and counting down ever so steadily touchy second almost there is now we have three answers kidding so far well done five so as you can see this is a fantastic way of yes it's so fun information thrilling also it's a good way to also engage with family friends and colleague at work exactly especially doing this the the time of recession period we have our kids back at home yes so we were also educating our kids can learn through this exactly yes it's an amazing platform and we have the answer is the code is cjui triple three i don't know answer is two zero one five four is the code right yeah so well done to eight of you getting it correct and let's see the standings the final standings the podium positions we have in third place let's clap for kids well done kid well done kids awesome stuff we have edu easy awesome stuff edu easy and in first place drum rolls for black birds well done blackbird and that is a typical we have fourth in jazz and saviour in the top five and that is a typical trivia session do you know like you can actually play this uh the trivia question game like like consistently yes it's not boring yes it's very entertaining very thrilling just keeping on gauge actually when you're at the edge yeah yes yeah it's a nice platform yes so that is typically what happens in quiz masters and anyone who would like to get into this industry can be able to and it's very simple all you just need to do is just have that passion for knowledge be curious be hardworking yes and love what you do okay all right David so let's look at how do you intend to scale up the business so in terms of scaling up is basically having our own application we also have our own application whereby we conduct trivia sessions every week on a wednesday online and the opportunity of making this big is again just focusing on the various demographics that we have just mentioned earlier and giving the opportunity to everyone to learn through trivia questions yes a couple of challenges you're facing lack of knowledge from participants the fact that trivia can be an entertaining way of of operating and for entertaining your guests because people think that when you take part in a trivia session that is an exam and it is far from it as you have experienced it is far from an exam it is all about entertainment all right as well as there's also that element whereby if we take it to schools it can also act as a learning mode a mode of learning for our young ones as they grow older so in this industry the world is our oyster we are able to really touch each and every person across every demographic yeah what does the future look like for for the trivia industry and also the quiz masters the future looks bright especially with the fact that i anticipate more people coming in on board in this industry and being quiz masters because for the industry to grow we need more quiz masters to come in and for them to be serious in what they do so that many people can be able to also know that this is a viable industry yes so it is bright for us as quiz masters because we have been there for quite a bit now and i'm looking forward to assisting anyone who would like to come in on board and take part in or to learn to be a quiz master yes we say that in this world there is no competition it's all about complimenting each other and i think that is the stage we are at right now in this industry we need to have more people coming on board and knowing that this is a viable way of earning an income oh yes okay so as you wind up yeah probably called you know throw some quick fire questions on me wow please don't be i'll be interested so but anyway let's let's do this so perhaps don't be too hard on me so perhaps you can just guide me okay which area of knowledge would you like me to ask you from um but are there give me sections so that okay so we have general knowledge okay general we have music okay we have movies we have geography i'll go with music music yes so i will ask you this question currently this is now a song that that is in heavy rotation okay okay there's a song called wango okay wango it has been sung by two female artists who are they there are no chases we just know there are no chases in this wango yes wango no it is not gospel okay yes but it is a song that has been really ah yes nadia mukami and senepe well done so you know your music now well done i think i was expecting to get to her because she's always like thinking we're quite fat exactly so it's actually quite easy to come up with questions okay one more so tell me which other area of knowledge geography movies or general knowledge let's go with the general knowledge okay i will ask you matters sports just because so it's a true or false question no true or false question true false true false let's do it in the history of formula one okay formula one levy samelton levy samelton levy samelton is the only black driver to have ever taken part in the formula one since inception is that true or false yes levy samelton is the only black driver in the history of formula one which is 70 years out of 774 drivers across 70 years levy samelton who is now the current seven-time champion is the only black driver to have driven in formula one okay is that true or false it is true well done you're correct yes indeed lewis who got us sour now we can wrap you up exactly so uh David how can people find uh you guys on social media okay so on social media we are on all major platforms we are on facebook as quiz masters as a profile and as a page quiz masters 254 yes like why 254 it is quiz masters 254 on twitter we are quiz masters 254 we are linked in as quiz masters and we are also on instagram as at quiz masters 254 okay please follow us yes guys please do so David as we close close this particular interview yes so let's assume we're meeting for the first time if you're to introduce yourself so what would you say your industry is at so david gray what you do i'm david gray and i'm a quiz master all right guys thank you very much david creating thank you very much thank you guys that is david gray quick mass uh quiz master so michael don't have to dull we'll be right back uh signing off so we'll be right back to sign off so make sure to stay tuned right here on why in the morning entrepreneurship tuesday at y254 channel at michael ashira is where you can find me across all my social media handles