 Good morning. This is Wednesday, the morning meeting of House Appropriations. And at first I want to say to the committee members, and I'm sorry, Linda is working on a bill in commerce, and I don't see Bob. And other than that, are we all here? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Bob is eight, nine. Who are the other two are missing? I should know my committee, but, oh, Daviacavoni needs to be working on some healthcare things for his presentation. And then Linda, Dave, and, oh, and I make a number two. I didn't count myself. So first I want to thank you for yesterday. That was incredible work. And I think we got some really good stuff out to get money to, you know, our healthcare provider groups, to Vermonters, for supports. And between the housing and the human services pieces, getting more broadband out in the state and in the healthcare stabilization, it is all really, really good work. And we turned it around in less than two weeks. And that is, that's just remarkable. On top of getting out a supplemental BAA to close out fiscal year 20 and getting out a quarter year bill, you guys deserve a little bit of a summer break. And I am telling you it's coming. I promise it's coming soon. But thank you. I can't thank you enough for your work. Today, we have the quarter one bill is on the floor of the Senate today, and it will be coming over with some changes. We've heard of changes from Chip and from Peter, the judiciary pieces, we've gone through higher ed pre-K through 12. Diane, the legislature pieces didn't go there. They went somewhere else. A few of you may have some other changes. I'm just trying to think what they were. There's one more addition we're going to see on the Q1 bill. Commissioner Greshan sent out a note that there was some need with UI administration costs. And Maria, do you want to just review that so that when we get the Q1 bill, we won't have to to say that we can understand it. Okay. So this document, it actually came from as an email, but I copied it in here to make it look so you could see the numbers. So we got this information. I think it was last week or the week before that last in addition last week. Okay. That there are additional UI admin costs that need to be covered by CRF funds. And this is not part of the first part of this email says it's not part of the UI payments. These are just strictly admin costs that are not covered with any other federal dollars. So if you would like to scroll down, Teresa, just a little bit so we can see the chart. So what I've done is I've highlighted the chart unfortunately is a little bit bigger than what fits on the screen. Oops. Okay. There you go. Perfect. Thank you. So I've highlighted the in yellow, the UI admin costs that we're referring to and they total about 4.63 million. The estimate of need because things are fluid is 4.7 million. And this includes the cost plus some match for some FEMA money that the administration can use for this purpose, but there's a 25% match. So there's a lot of things going on within this 4.7 million, but that's the estimate of need at this point. So what you'll see when you get the Senate bill is there's a section and I need to get my eyes on it, but there's a section of that bill that takes it takes 4.7 million from the money that was set aside for the Joint Fiscal Committee to allocate that 225 million. There was 47 million that was unallocated. So they've included some language that takes the 4.7 from that 47 million. And, and that's where it lives right now. So it's not bumping your CRF bottom line. It's taking it out of money that's set aside for the Joint Fiscal Committee. Okay, that was early on. That was some of the first decisions that were made with emergency funding that were one to cover the governor's emergency dollars that had already gone out. And then there was a second bucket of money to address needs as they came along through the Joint Fiscal Committee. Are there any questions for Maria on why we're doing it here or of where we're taking the CRF monies and just under CRF monies can be used for FEMA match. That was a ruling that they made one ruling they got to us that was very positive. Any question on this? So it will not come from the dollars that the House and Senator working with it will come from the dollars that were set aside in the Joint Fiscal Committee. No questions? Yes, I do have a question. I had my hand. Yes. Oh, I couldn't. No, I don't see a hand. Am I a co-host, Teresa? Oh, I think I forgot to make you a co-host. Okay. Sorry, Peter. That's why I didn't. Okay. So I'm not blaming you, Teresa. It's okay, Ken. Maria, just a quick question. So you've got the two shaded areas is what you've been referring to. And then they are all UI admin. And I presume that's the reason why it cannot come out of the UI fund. And that's the reason why we're looking at a coronavirus fund instead, which I'm fine with. The rest of it is UI vendors, UI mod, ADS, and ops. All of that is capable to be drawn from the UI fund. So the UI fund has a specific amount of money set aside for admin. And they've reached that cap. And the additional funds that we got from the federal government, the pandemic unemployment assistance, that's for self-employed people. And then the federal pandemic unemployment compensation, the $600 additional each week, that had some admin money attached to it, but it's all used up. It's not available. So that's why we're looking at the CRF funds. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions for Maria? I see, Marty. Yes. So those mental expenses that are not highlighted, they're all admin stuff. But are you saying they are covered by admin that was part of the UI fund or the federal UI allocation? So the things that are not highlighted, I don't have a lot of information on that. We were just focusing on the UI admin piece. I can definitely get more information. I'll ask finance if they could shed some light on that. What I'm thinking is that those costs are covered. Oh, shoot. Maria, I lost you and I'm wondering what happened to me. Maria, did we lose you or? Yeah, I lost her. I lost Maria too. Yeah, you know, I'm sorry. It's funny because I just got a phone call from Steve in the middle of that. And so I had to decline it. That's why you lost her. Okay. He must not be on right now. Yeah, those costs, the things that start under the green shade, the UI vendor costs, I'll find out a little more information on that. What I leaned from this email is that those costs are covered within the funds that they have for UI. But I can get you more information on what that is. Thank you, Marty. Okay. Well, I just want to make sure that they're already covered somehow. Okay. Sure. Absolutely. Yep. Great. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Marty. Any other questions for Maria? So when we get the Q1 bill and we go through it, Maria, if you have, you know, if you can bring that information back at that time. Sure. Yes. Okay. So I believe this is the only piece that we hadn't gone over regarding changes to the Q1 bill. Chip, do you have or Peter, do you have any update from the education committee? I know that they were working hard with their counterparts on the other side to solve any issues in the Q1. I haven't seen anything, Chip, of you. No. No. I'm writing one email now and I was actually planning to try to get one off to the chair this morning. I think if further amendment was going to be needed to try to do the amendment on their Sunday and not do it on the floor because that just slows up getting these dollars out. So we're trying to. Okay. Steve, you called me right now. That was their intent. Yep. And as soon as you know, that would be great if you could inform the committee so that when we go through the bill, we'll know the committees of jurisdiction are all set. And Mary, if you would, I think it's, or Chip, who has the one section we want to make sure house corrections and institutions or as a judiciary that needs to know about the Senate piece that was added regarding help for battered women, more services for battered women who have been incarcerated, I believe. That's Chip and that's judiciary. I sent a note to Alice and Borch about the DOC stuff. Okay. So Chip, you'll follow up on that one Senate piece with the groups that need to weigh in. Please. Yes, but I'm, I think I'm a little confused. So as I understood what we were talking about yesterday, it was already in the the judiciary proposals for the network. In the House Judiciary or Senate? No, I think there was one new piece that the Senate was adding on to their bill. I think there's an additional piece. And Maria can, I think Stephanie on that Maria, will you find out what the ones that was added on so that Chip can work with his committees to make sure they're all set? Okay. Yes. There is a summary sheet that I think, I think Theresa may have sent it around last night, but we'll make sure you get that. Okay. There were several of them that came from the House side and I believe there was one small piece that that was added on on the Senate side that I want to just make sure we back on. Are you talking kitty of COVID dollars or? Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. These are all COVID dollars. So just not to close the loop here. So somebody's going to send that memo or do we already have it? I just need to know where to go look for the information. Maria will circle back with you after she reaches out to Stephanie. They have that HVAC stuff in the Senate one. Yep. They're all, they're all over that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Chip is all over that piece. Yes. So we'll just check in with Maria, Chip. That's what I was doing. Mayda? Yeah. This isn't in the COVID section of the phase one budget, but I think in the earlier section, the Senate has added some language with regard to pensions and it's basically clarifying that there's authorization to invest the money that's in the state employees OPEB and the retired teachers post employment funds. So thank you, Mayda. And I believe that came from the transfer's office and Teresa, could you get the treasure on for about 10 minutes before we get the quarter one bill to hear about that? Sure. What was the question? I'm sorry. I was looking for Chip. The pension, the addition of the pension language authorizing investment of the post employment benefit monies. Okay. Day 13. And there's another piece relating to the treasurer authorizing her to invest a higher amount than we had in the community loan fund. Okay. Oh, and there's another little piece where we had the full amount of the administration costs for the pensions in our bill and in the Senate version, there's only 30 percent. 30 percent of what? Tell me. Of the full cost to administer the three pensions. In other words, keeping the rest. Oh, okay. So we need to hear from the treasurer on that. This is the quarter bill, right? Yes. Okay. Thank you. And so, represent more than 10 minutes. And I think that everything you're looking for will be in, if you go in the one drive, and I can send you anything out of there if you're not able to access it through your iPad, but there is a folder for the quarter one bill. It's called phase one. Thank you. It's called H 961. It's the A2 folder right on the top when you go into the House of Props folder. Phase, it's FY 21 phase one transition bill. And in there is a Senate folder for everything that is going to the Senate. So the UI piece, the three pieces regarding the treasurer we need to circle back with pre-K through 12, higher ad micro businesses in adult days. Does anybody else? Oh, and there's that one, that one judiciary piece on the Senate side chip you'll follow up on. And is there anything else anyone has heard about or know they were working on? Can I jump in, Kitty? Sure, Mary. I'm sorry, but Neda has her hand up. I should have. I think that's from before. Um, Peter, you yesterday said that you saw some rogue piece about jails and population of the women's facility, which I'm talking about for chip. Oh, the piece that yeah, is about incarcerated women, I believe. And it had to do with, and it may not have been, it may be battered women, but there was a lot of battered women. And there was also, we had stuff for draining within the South Arlington facility. Right. No, no, I'm talking about a new Senate piece. There's a new Senate piece. Okay, so you will circle around with Mary if it includes POC, please. I definitely will. And I think that the thing that Peter was talking about yesterday, I heard the red, the exact same language. And I'm pretty sure it was maybe in an end section or something around the networks proposals. So I'll find it later if I can. Meanwhile, I'll find out about the Senate piece. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Diane. To unmute myself. Are we going to talk about the things that aren't there? These are the things that are in there? Are there things that are not in there that we had put in? It's the negative. Not that I am aware of. Not that I am aware of. But when we get the walkthrough, we will learn that, but I am not aware of that. Okay. Okay. Thank you. So I think that we're ready when we get the quarter one bill. It sounds like we can stitch it up pretty quickly. The bills on the floor today. I hope, you know, I know you're all prepared, you know, your sections. I do want to clarify so that we're all on the same page. The additional monies that were put in, we had the 1.25, the speaker had set aside monies in phase two, also some monies for to address lost revenue as was addressed in the education bill with the shortfall in education. Due to what's happening in Washington, it doesn't appear that any decisions are going to be made in June and July. And Congress will probably not act on changing any guidance or on a hero's act for more money or anything else until very late July or early August when we will have returned. And so the monies that were set aside in tier two have become available for use because we were hoping to get information up, you know, with guidance change if we could address lost revenue. So that's one piece, but also we do not have an official forecast, but our economists are tracking what's happening. And so unofficially our numbers are still in the red, but they're moving in the right direction toward black. And so that has freed up some money if we choose to move those unofficial projections. And so that is where there was no hidden money in anyone's pocket. Believe me, it's all out there and it's all being tracked. Was the tier two and some good news as our economy starts to spring back. Bob and Mary. Yeah. Yeah, kitty. I'm just trying to remember whatever happened with that transportation issue of five million, two million to the Ed Department and three million. The three million. Kurt took it to Mike Markott and they're working on it as part of the commerce bill. Well, I thought I picked that up. And I thought Linda and I were supposed to work on it. Actually, we did. And then it just kind of fizzled out. You're you can you need to continue to track it along with other things that went to commerce. I mentioned that at one meeting and you may have been at your doctor's appointment. And I apologize if that's when I mentioned it, that when I had a conversation with Mike Markott, he said that he was already looking at that piece with Kurt. And so I gladly let them have it, but you certainly need to be continued to continue to be part of those discussions. If it's well, it's really money. It was CRF money that was just a sign for them to use. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's all it was. And I don't really don't care, but I just want to do I think. Yeah. Anyways, okay, thank you. So that's where it is. Check in with Mike Markott or with Kurt and they are following up on those conversations. And I apologize, Bob, if I went over that and I know you were out a few times for just a short period and that's what they have brought it up. Mary and Marty. Kitty, I don't think I fully tracked what you were saying regarding federal actions and tier two money. Can you just summarize that again, please? Sure. The speaker had set aside tier two money in case the federal government in June or early July made some decisions regarding the use of CRF money and if it could be used to backfill revenue. It appears now from conversations that the speaker's office has had with our federal delegation that no decisions are going to be made in time for if we're gone, we were going to leave instructions, you know, kind of a list to get this money out the door. They are there does not appear that there will be any action at the federal level until early August and then we our committee will be back shortly after that. So the significance of that is we don't need to figure out the list of what to do with the tier two. You weren't saying that it is now available to spend. Well, we spent 100 on healthcare. Yeah, we spent 96 million on healthcare. Her two is off the table because the federal government isn't going to provide any information for us that would have allowed us to to do our tier two plan. So we're holding off till August. Yeah, but we're also releasing some of that tier two money we were holding on to what I'm trying to understand. Thank you. And we used a chunk of it yesterday. Yeah. Marty. So that was the same question I had just that mean we have additional funds that we should be appropriating now as part of whatever before we leave before June 30th, so that we will use up most of what we were calling tier two, which we know now no longer believe we need to hold on to. And I'm delighted to hear that. But I would like to appropriate that money. And I'm wondering if there are plans for how to do that. Are we going to add more into commerce as an example? Or do you know? Yep, there's there's two big pieces that are still hanging out there. The commerce bill is not complete. And so I think that the Commerce Committee will be working on identifying those needs and dollars that are needed. And we also have an ag bill that hasn't moved yet as well. And so those are the two larger pieces. The other thing that we have to do is the priorities of the House and Senate never line up completely. And the Senate has a hazard pay bill out there with I think it's a $60 million hazard pay bill. And I'm not sure where that's going to land in the end either. So there needs to be some to use to negotiate back and forth with priorities of the House and the Senate, because if we have a high priority and we used all of our funds, then we don't have anywhere to go. But also, what was I going to say? Oh, also in the education bill, we did set aside money if there's change in federal guidance to take pressure off the property taxes. Was it a hundred million that we set aside? Well, no. Well, not off the property taxes. I'll borrow them. Well, we also have a bill on our wall. Well, some Senate as well. Just let Marty finish and then I'll jump to you. Okay. Well, so do we think that some of these various loose ends will come together and get resolved before the end of next week so that we have expended most of the $1.2 billion? Yes. And what that total is that we don't expend is a bit of a moving target and it's for two pieces. One would be for to help with loss revenue in the general fund. We were up to 278, then it moved to 250, then it moved to like 202. So we're in about the $200 million range. And as Friday comes, we will have a new target about what that gap is in the general fund. And I believe the Ed fund, I've got to check on the new number for the Ed fund. We may be below 200 now in the gap that's projected for the general fund. We may be in the $150 to $2 million range. And then I think the Ed fund was in the $100 million range. And then whatever the construct is at the end, whether we put them, you know, you know, I'm not suggesting any of these, I'm just putting the constructs out there. If there's a gap in the Ed fund, it either gets, you know, a loan that's paid back, we run a deficit, or we just increase property taxes, you know, there's there's several mechanisms that the legislature will have to we'll have to consider. But one hope is is that in our federal delegation keeps saying there's strong hope there, or I should say hope there, that that the guidance will change that could take the pressure off that education gap, and some off the general fund gap. So I think it's not appetite to spend every penny not knowing what the rules are going to look like. We were hoping in June, but now we hear they're not going to make these actions until August or end of July. Okay. Well, I thought the Ed fund was decided that there was going to be a gap of 140. And we were just literally going to have to borrow the money because they set the tax rates. So we're not going to increase the tax rates. Right. I don't know. So I had it again at what the mechanism is to address the gap. If we've if we've decided to address the gap, that's what I'm not clear about. So I would just advocate for reserving as little as possible. Thank you. And I will never normally say that, but I want to spend it. Boy how boy how the tables can turn sometimes or I want to save, save, save. No, it's important. I know. Normally I would. I think that it will be very clear. We should be by the time we leave next week, because I don't think we can get out by Friday by the time we leave next week, a billion dollars at least should be out the door. That's what our and don't stick. Don't hold me to an exact number. You know, but I think around that amount of a billion dollars should be out the door. Okay. Thank you. Were you done Marty? I'm sorry. I don't want to die. Yes, done. I'm done. I've just been dogging. We also have and I'm sure it's a part of a bigger plan, but I just don't want us to forget that we actually have possession of S 349, the municipal bill that government office is taking, taking a look at. And that's probably one of those Senate House come to Jesus moments. Yeah. Yeah. And so that's a good point. I know House government operations is working on possible language to change or add or do something in 349. Who does municipalities? Who has, who has that kind of budget? Something for me. I would kitty. Yes, made up or kitty. It's made up. You had asked me to yes, you had asked me to keep an eye on that particular bill. Let me take my video off. Maybe that'll help. And I give you so, so you had asked me to keep an eye on age 349 over in gov ops, which I have been doing. And they have been taking extensive testimony this week, including today, they've got quite a long list. I've been after the vice chair to let me know how much in addition to their authorized $10 million for Corona relief, how they had 10 million, which they intended to put toward this bill. I've been after him to tell me how much more is needed because at one point I heard they needed a total of 16 million for that bill. But john said he tried to get back to me today with a clearer idea as to how much in addition to the 10 million they will need. Does that help? Yep. Thank you. And so with their policy, they will match the dollar need with the policy. What I would like you to do made up because we're trying to create packages here. Can you, I need, and maybe Maria can help with this, the total number of dollars so that we know that that has gone out and we'll go out to municipalities. Because sometimes when we do in little pieces, we don't keep track of the total. And so we need that total to go out to our communities. And it is Maria on so that she, oh, there she is. Yes. So you, you're making a note and I'm making a note. So you, yes. So you would like to know, yeah, a list of what's been done already for municipalities. Is that correct? Okay. Okay. Yep. Okay. I need, right. I just got to put a note in my calendar here. Okay. Total there just so I remember to come back to that. All right. And then ag, we're coming back at 130 to do the ag bill on the Senate side. And as we've been doing these packages, this ag bill that will run through our committee chip is the lucky person that has the ag budget. He is going to, and we're going to give him maybe a present. I'm lucky to have that one or something. He's going to work with Senate ag and house ag. And in here, both sides and try to help them take their policy pieces and come up with a bill that they both can agree upon. And so chip, you're going to be working on that. So if any of you, and I've already made my phone call, if any of you have priorities or thoughts about the direction of this bill, get to chip this morning or, you know, before, you know, by the end of the day today, we've heard Carolyn's presentation. And we'll, we will hear from Michael Grady, the Senate proposal. And so don't wait until the proposal until there's an agreement. Get to chip today or by the end of the day with any of your thoughts on ag. So as he works with the two committees, our thoughts are on the table. By the way, my phone doesn't seem to be working. So you should definitely email me or I'm happy to give you my home phone, but don't don't message text me. Yep. Or telepathically, we can just glare at you now and tell you, you know, some of our priorities or, you know, things that we'd like to see within the package. Chip is on a forestry. Do you want to talk about that chip? It was a sector that hasn't been included. Do you want to talk about that a bit? Yes. So I've been in recognition that that the forest products industry, which has really suffered in part, on the large part, because of the loss of the need for paper during the COVID pandemic, that there's been a real impact on folks who supply that kind of pulpoid, basically, and others farther down the chain because of the way that the supply chain works in the forest products industry. So I was just in recognition of the fact that there hasn't been, hadn't been any proposals for how to help them out. I was trying to figure out something. I've been working with Mike Snyder and Sam Lincoln from Forest and Parks, and Meada has jumped right in, too, to help us try to figure this out. And so we're trying to bring forth a proposal that's in the $5 million range to see if there's something we can do. My suggestion to them has been to maybe model it on the dairy proposal where you say, compare previous periods before COVID incomes to what's happened during the COVID period, and then just try to create a very simple grant program to help them weather this by making up the difference. That's, you know, it's last minute. Mike and Sam are working hard to try to bring forth some details. I think Mike Snyder is actually a testifying and Senate ag at this moment trying to get them on board with doing this. Wedge Council has just very recently been informed that this may be coming. So, you know, it's all like anything we're trying to do right at this moment. We're trying to get it together quickly. But that's where we are. Thank you, Chip. So, Meida, you will be in line with Chip to work on the forest pieces and committee members know to get things to Chip. Mary? Thank you. I'm really glad you're trying to expand who has access to this pot of money. And I've just been, so I'm doing my usual thing of sharing my anxiety with the committee. Just thinking about equity across all businesses that have lost income. And, you know, I, assuming there are on the order of 700 dairy farms in Vermont, I mean, if you just do the math, so much more money is going to flow into that sector under some of the proposals we've seen. So, I'm glad you're spreading it out so more people have access to it. I continue to worry about an equity issue because there are other businesses that will see nothing of this degree of support that are equally facing, you know, closing businesses, lost dreams, changed to our community. And, you know, so there you have my anxiety. I'm not sure what to do about this. But that I, perhaps part of what I'm saying is I would not support seeing even more money going into the ag piece at the detriment of other money that we're putting into commerce for all of those other communities that are equally desperate. Thank you for doing the forestry piece. That's a big one, Chip. Good work. Thank you, Mary. Yeah, following up on what Mary said, a larger picture of what Mary was speaking, not solely the forestry piece. Stop my video. Okay, is this better? That's better. Okay, there's libel to be a lot of background sound. There's activity at the airport right now with certain airplanes taking off. So in any case, following up on what Mary said, not particularly with regard to forestry, but the larger picture of which was speaking with regard to equality of access, I know, I'm just compelled to say, even though I know the arts and cultural organizations do have the capacity and are expected to apply for some of the money that's being that's being put out of commerce in their bills. I know that from their perspective, they're feeling as if they're at the end of the line, and I just feel the need to verbalize their anxieties in this with you folks. Because they technically do have the opportunity, but they're not feeling the love. So just to recap, we'll be back at 130 and we will hear the ag bill from Michael Grady at 130. And following that, all members, and if somebody could get this message to Dave and to Linda, if they have any ag issues, forestry issues, get those out to Mata and to Chip as soon as possible, because they will be working with the two committees of jurisdiction on either side to hammer out the two proposals. The quarter one bill is coming back over. We've talked about most of the pieces. I'm sure there'll be a hidden gem somewhere that we'll need to look at. And so be prepared to get the quarter one bill turned around if you have any pieces that you need to talk with other committees of jurisdiction on. S349 Mata is following, and we will have a recommendation from GovOps either later today or tomorrow. And Teresa, you're going to schedule in the treasurer. So that's a Q1 piece. It's available tomorrow morning between 9 and 9.30. So I told her 10 minutes. She's going to come right up. Well, actually, we may need it. There were three pieces after that. The piece is total. So I bet she'll need the 9 to 9.30, the half hour. Okay. Teresa. And I think that's it, except Bob, you have a question? Yeah, are we on the floor at 10 o'clock? 10 o'clock. And the bills that we passed out are going to be addressed today, I believe. Will the housing broadband be done today or not? Mitzi, what the speaker said was that they would not be taken up today, that instead we will focus on the melded human services and health care bill. Health care bill. Okay, perfect. And that's this afternoon, not this morning. Yep, that's at 2 o'clock. So what are we doing at 10? There must be a bunch of other bills on at 10. Well, we just got an email from Mitzi that what the lineup is this morning at 10. Well, what is it? Elinor Charter, annual state land transaction, board of medical practice, change in laws related to vehicles. Well, that would be, you're interested. All the little stuff. Yeah, all the junk. Yeah. Well, well, they're important. Elmore, that would be important, Bob. I think we're in pretty good shape. I'm feeling good. I don't know about you guys. Don't don't say it out loud. Don't say it out loud. Did you say you put the put something on the OneDrive memo? So I have all the Senate stuff in a folder under Senate and I sent you the path by email. Okay, thank you. If you don't find what you're looking for, Maria and I will connect after this to make sure we have everything in there that you'll need. But I think what you're looking for is in there. Thank you very much, Marty. It is the intent to have the new commerce package attached to housing and technology bill. I don't that be separate. I don't know the answer to that. I'm thinking that the I'm thinking they will go separately. That's what I'm thinking. Oh, okay. But I, you know, things can change. I'm not sure. So but at this point, I think they're going separately, but that could change. The last time we talked, that was going to be a floor amendment. So that's not the plan anymore. I don't. I don't know. Okay. I'm not sure what's going to happen. A floor amendment. Yeah, I thought that was the don't touch me. I don't know. I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. Kimberly. Does it have to come to us? Oh, the commerce, the commerce, new commerce package. Yes, absolutely. It has to come to us to come to us. Right. Yep. That's why Linda is there so that she can keep bringing back the pieces. So it's not a big surprise to us. So yes, we'll come to us and then we will get it out. And hopefully we can turn it around quickly. Kimberly. Yeah, just one more piece that is also incoming will be the housing services language right now. The human services bills focused on today's bill. And so I'm waiting for some clarification, but just want to remind people that that will be coming as well. Okay. We'll do that this afternoon, Kimberly. I don't know that it would be this afternoon because of the human services bill on the floor. So I'll have to be in touch with you as the day progresses and maybe something is clear to log jam that I just haven't heard yet. Okay. Yep. I have to do DCF housing. That's hanging up. I forgot about that. Thank you, Kimberly. Okay. And I've got to put down the economic development bill. So we have a few more things hanging than I thought. Okay. We'll see you at 10 o'clock on the floor back here at 1.30 and then 2 o'clock on the floor again.