 Pia, when in the first round followed by two draws against two strong grandmasters, are you happy with the progress? Yes, no, I'm very happy I'm just trying to see that I can play some fine chess and I'm very pleased to have played against two strong players and managed to make draws. And today with the black pieces against Motilev, you didn't seem to have too many problems to take half point back home. Yeah, no, I think it went fine for me after the opening. He went for in games, but I wasn't I wasn't worried about it. So but maybe, okay, maybe I didn't play the most accurate, but then finally it was a draw. I think so, I think I was better, but I didn't know how to have to play correctly. Just for the audience, that's Nigel screaming out that you were better. Did you, did you feel at some point that you probably had a slight pull? I guess for the position was fine. So and I you know, I had a bishop pair and I I thought I didn't have any problems. So Pleased with the result? Yes, no, I'm very pleased. Now Pia, you're one of those people who've been at this festival from the very start and you come with your whole family, the three of you play here. What is it? What is it that makes Gibraltar such a home for you and why do you like it so much? It's now it's the most beautiful tournament of all on the Chester really it's so It's so amazing to see this tournament because it's growing. It's becoming better every year. There are more people coming There are a lot of social activities. So it's not like a normal tournament It's like it's like a really family where everyone is enjoying whether you however the game go You have so much things around and it's just a very beautiful place to be here, too So we just enjoy it very much. I have to ask, you know, you're a you're a mother You're you've got a family Chess is of course getting younger How are you able to still keep up your level and your standard and still play such brilliant chess? Where with the black pieces you have no problem holding a strong Grandmaster? I don't know because I also have dropped quite a lot of rating the last last two years, but If I can keep my energy, I think I can play some some fine chess So it's very much up to keep the energy and to have the happiness for for playing. So The happiness you definitely have do you do anything specific to keep your energy levels up? Yes, no, I make a lot of okay a lot of sport, but I I mean I go jogging. I make some aerobics. So I try to make Lots of things when I'm at home here I'm just just walking and even though you come here with the family and you've got this really nice atmosphere You're of course taking the tournament very seriously because it's a very strong tournament Or do you feel having the family around makes makes you feel more relaxed? Of course, it's it's the it's I really love the tournaments where we can go together And this is your the most beautiful of all of all of them So for me if I would come alone, it wouldn't be really really the same So I really love when we can go all three of us and when you travel for such a tournament together Coming here playing this strong event chess wise. What is what's the aim or what is the idea? That would satisfy you what kind what kind of an experience would satisfy you For me is very much how I'm playing if I can get myself to play to play some fine chess This is the main thing for me and then of course I'm very happy if my daughter is progressing But we have to be just just to be patient with it And I I think for me the most important Concerning my daughter is that she enjoys playing. This is really the most important of everything And she's having a good time here. Yes, she's having good time Well, we'll we'll let you go now, but we hope to have you back in our studio soon. Thank you very much Thank you