 Okay good morning everyone welcome to the course we see two on three on the end times today we have two lectures and I look forward to that let's take a moment to pray together and then we will start could one of us please lead in prayer and then we will get started. Let us pray. Dear Father in Heaven we thank you for another opportunity to be equipped in your word to be equipped for ministry we thank you Lord for our pastor who you have strengthened and enabled him so far Lord to impact wisdom and the knowledge of you and understanding of your word for us Lord to be ready for the assignment you have ahead of us we commit this time Lord spent listening to your word turn pot and structure to us we pray that as we listen Lord as we learn open us up Lord give us wisdom Lord to capture the depths of the understanding we need us Lord to have Lord so that will be worthy verses in your hand for the work you have ahead of us thank you for lasting Father or in Jesus name we pray. Amen thank you and good morning everyone so in this course on the end times we completed this section on a panoramic overview of the sequence of events we in the chapter six the notes that I've given and then of course we went through Revelation we started with the rapture of the church and then we went through the sequence of events all the way till Revelation 22 which is the new heavens the new earth and we try to outline events that would take place now we didn't get into the details you know reading every chapter and verse on this we will keep that for another course in our third year when people you know go through the book of Daniel and Revelation we'll read worse those chapters prophetic chapters and those scriptures the verses and explain them so we will do that in a separate course but here our plan our intent was to kind of give an overview of the events sequence of events so that you're very clear how things are going to unfold so and then the next chapter which I planned to get into today was the signs of the times so which is just a listing of what are the signs that kind of indicate to us where we are in terms of this prophetic calendar or this sequence of events that are about to unfold how close are we to the rapture of the church and the beginning of the tribulation so I wanted to plan to get into that but before we get into it I just wanted to give us some time for some questions questions or discussion if you have you know if you just wanted to clarify some things about the sequence of events I will share the chart which is in the PDF that we had released earlier so just something to reference as part of our conversation and then you know this is this is of course a very high high-level view of the sequence of events that we were going through so we are here right now in the church age which began on the day of Pentecost around 8033 and we are somewhere towards the end of the church age we will look at the signs of the times to see how close we have but what we did say was the first thing that we are looking forward to is the rapture of the church and the all believers will be taken over into heaven and in heaven we have various things happening we are assured into our mentions we our works are tested we receive our rewards there's a marriage supper of the lamp and so on and then there is honor these seven years of tribulation which we went through that is revelations chapter 6 all the way till revelation 19 and then revelation 19 brings us here at the end the battle of Armageddon where Christ comes with thousands and ten thousands of saints that is all of us were in heaven we come here and there's a battle of Armageddon and then right after that you know those who died in the tribulation are raised up as well and be reigned with Christ for a thousand years those who've lived through the tribulation they move in to this millennium for a thousand years but Christ rules literally here on earth and be I serving with him on the earth Satan is bound for a thousand years and that at the end of the thousand years Satan is lose for a brief period and he is finally wrapped he is finally defeated and cast away into the lake of fire all the data raised there's a great white throne judgment then there's a renovation of everything of heavens and the earth and there are new heavens and the new a new earth and it is a heavenly city Jerusalem that comes on to the new earth and then we are with Christ in eternity that's chapters 21 and 22 of revelation so I just want us to I want to make sure that all of us are clear with the sequence with this sequence of events and if you have any questions now was a good time for us to discuss before we get into talking about the signs of the time so any questions any things you feel we need to clarify or we didn't explain we can bring it up now okay so there's a question from Christopher there's a difference bit please provide distinction between Hades hell and the lake of fire so the lake of fire if you let's say if you work backwards the lake of fire is the final destination it is the place where even hell itself will be sent to right so that's the lake of fire now hell is also a place of torment it was prepared for the devil and his angels and now at this time so this is before before before the hell being cast in the lake of fire now at this time those who reject Christ those who die without Christ go to hell it's also a place of torment and those who die with Christ they go to heaven so hell you could think of is a place of torment but it's a temporary holding place and hell and those who are in it and will be cast into the lake of fire what are the some of the other things that we do know yeah we know that there are different compartments so to speak there was what was referred to as Abraham's bosom which was not necessarily like in hell not in the place of torment but we refer to as as Hades in Hades where all testament saints were temporarily held also referred to as paradise before they could all be taken into heaven this was before the cross so paradise which was part of Hades was there temporarily and that was taken up into heaven when Christ ascended paradise was taken up the other things we know is that in hell there is what is referred to as a bottomless pit in hell there are angels that are imprisoned and kept in chains these were angels that disobeyed God and for whatever reason these particular angels are kept in prison they sinned not only in the rebellion with Lucifer but also in Genesis 6 they sinned and so they are kept in chains here in hell so we know those little little you know those bits and pieces of information about hell which is a place of torment but then what we do know when we read in Revelation 20 verse 15 that is at the great white throne judgment hell will be cast into the lake of fire lake of fire is like the final destination probably you know it's called a lake of fire for good reason it's probably even more tormenting than what hell may be now so these are things that we know in about hell about Hades about paradise about the bottomless bit about prisons in hell about the lake of fire it's okay Christopher so so Christopher's follow-up question just to confirm Hades does not exist anymore after Jesus came to the earth well paradise which is a compartment of Hades so if you look at Hades Hades had two compartments paradise and hell so the paradise compartment of Hades no longer exists that was taken up into heaven because that temporarily held the Old Testament saints until Christ could finish his work on the cross right so if you you can imagine Hades which is the place of the dead had two compartments paradise and hell hell is the place of torment paradise or Abraham spousal that part does not exist anymore under the earth the paradise has been taken to heaven but hell as a part of paradise Hades exists now was that clear okay I'll wait for Christopher's response but in the meantime Anita Anita's question is about new age teaching so new age teaching I would say it became very prominent I mean I guess it's been in existence in some form for a long time but it became kind of more prominent back starting in the 90s or it may be 80s and 90s when a lot of celebrities like a movie celebrities Hollywood celebrities began to you know openly talk about new age and all of that so and I haven't studied new age in depth but this is based on a couple some books or some reading that I did and this was back in the 90s so you know I haven't read on those things lately so basically what new age is it is an amalgamation of all teachings from all religions you know you make up your own it's a mix for everything so they pull in from all these some religions they mix in everything they want you can mix in the Bible with teachings from and quotes from anybody and it's basically you make it up yourself you know basically you come up with your own ideas and so and and it is you know enhancing your personal spirituality connecting with you know this supreme being or whatever and you have a mix of ideas some go into angelic visitations and so on so back in the 90s I read a book called deceived by the new age I forget the name of the author but that book kind of explained in depth how this man made his journey into the new age and he began to have you know these these great experience spiritual experiences but you know so-called encounters with Jesus but actually it was angels of darkness appearing as Jesus and appearing as angels of light and so his old book the book itself is this called deceived by the new age and and he talks about his journey into it and his journey out of it so it was very interesting reading and see how you know people get caught up in this and there are they claim all these spiritual experiences which later on you realize that actually from angels of darkness that appear as angels of light the reason that new age teaching became so popular one was because of like we said you know there were big celebrities who were talking about it openly and it's obviously all their fans and others you know would explore it and secondly it is it is not as well what did we say a few years the word structured or you know like a formal type of religion you know it's like you make up whatever you want you get your own experiences and you learn from what others are experiencing so yeah but it's basically a mix of all kinds of ideas they think they even quote from the Bible and every other religious book and anybody's philosophy and ideas so alright let me just try to look at Revelation 20 verse 5 and then we have somebody who lifted up their hand I think I see Revelation 20 and verse 5 but the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished this is the first resurrection so we have people Revelation 20 verse 5 it's talking about the rest of the dead who what does it mean so you know I am all the dead in Christ all the Old Testament saints have received their resurrected glorified bodies at the rapture which takes place before the tribulation there are lots people who have died before the rapture without Christ they remain dead meaning they are still in hell then during the tribulation we have more people are dying in Christ for the faith in Christ and all of them who die during the tribulation in Christ because as believers will be resurrected at the end of the dead at the end of the tribulation of just Revelation 20 verse 4 but all the others who die remain dead that's what Revelation 20 verse 5 is saying so at the end of Revelation 20 verse 5 whom do we have a life we have all those who've died in Christ all the saints that is Old Testament New Testament who've died in Christ with their glorified bodies they've been resurrected they are the glorified bodies and you have people who have come through the tribulation who have not died so they're coming into the thousand year reign of Christ so you have them and that's how we enter in to the thousand years reign of Christ in the millennium you've got people with their glorified bodies and you've got people natural people or people without that you know natural the natural boys who transitioned from the seven year tribulation into the millennia but all the others dead remain dead until the end of the millennium until Revelation 20 verse you know the great white throne judgment which you read in Revelation 20 verse 13 is that okay all right say did you raise your hand I'm not sure no pastor okay all right so we go to Christopher's next question do unbelievers have their bodies how do they get tormented with only their spirit that is feeling dense heat so remember at the spirit the inner person is actually more real than the physical person so you know in the other course where we are talking about developing the human spirit the human spirit is more real than the physical and the human spirit has faculties just like the physical body has faculties so the human spirit can also feel and so right now when a person dies the body is decayed so the physical senses are gone but the spirit faculties are still there and they the spirit goes to heaven or to hell and they're tormented in hell and so that's so they still feel the torment and when in Revelation 20 verse 12 it says I saw the dead small and great standing for God and the books were opened and also was 13 it says the sea gave up the dead who were in it and death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them it's not telling us whether they are being raised up with some body natural body or physical body or is it only their spirit I'm assuming it's only their spirit and I'm making an assumption because it's not clear and eat whatever assumption you make it's fine but my assumption is that this dead Revelation 20 verse 12 and 13 are when they says that the sea and that you know the sea gave up the dead and everyone who ever lived to stand before God the dead I'm assuming they are in their spiritual beings but remember the spiritual is more real than the natural and the spiritual person has faculties and has functions and so all of that is going to experience torment eternally. It's interesting how Jesus communicated that when he was describing hell let me just look up the words you could go and ask your question Christopher. I just wanted to also just get some clarification on why God would want to lose Satan after a thousand year period when you know this thousand year period is like a nearly a sort of like a you know a perfect situation but Satan has been bound for you know for that for those thousand years and why would why would God want to lose it you know after this kind of near perfect situation or period of time so just wanted to understand if you have some there's some indications about why that happened or why that happened sorry. Yeah so I think this was a question we I didn't answer but I think I put it back to the class and we answered this question together where there were different ones in the class who shared their thoughts and it seemed to come to a consensus that God is doing this to test people whether they are genuinely committed to Jesus Christ because remember like we said you know thousand years no problem you know there's no devil no evil spirit to trouble us you just everybody's worshipping Jesus you go there's no devil to deceive so they're really not being tested from that perspective so I think the consensus was that the reason why God is deciding to or has decided to release Satan for that period of time is that he would go and deceive it's like a test you know do you want to really follow Jesus are you going to believe the devil and I think as part of that discussion we also followed it up with a second question which is how could the devil deceive people and that's when I think a couple of people pointed out you know in the Garden of Eden it was a perfect state and even there the devil came and deceived Adam and Eve he got them into trouble in a perfect environment you could not have asked for anything better and yet over there he managed to deceive and the way he did it was questioning what God said so it's very likely in the thousand year and the end of the thousand years he's going to deceive people in a similar manner similar trick did God really say you don't make question what the Lord Jesus promised like maybe his question it could be did God really say there's going to be a millennium or I mean there's going to be new heavens and new earth and things like that you know so that seemed to be the answer you know it's just us thinking through it we can't give chapter and verse for it but if you think through it seems like a logical answer why God would at least Satan at the end of the thousand year period yeah anybody else wants to add to it okay okay we have one more question of me you said one third of all angels abound in hell then who the Satan used to run his kingdom and that who oppresses people are these evil spirits where they come from okay so many I sorry I did not say one through the fallen angels abound in hell and what I did say was of those one third four fallen angels there are some of them who sinned further and you read about them in Genesis the sixth chapter it says here that Genesis 6 and which was am I looking at here so Genesis 6 and was for so there were fallen angels who came in to the women on the earth it's in the 64 and those angels out of the third of the angels are bound in hell and we read about them in second beta and also in Jude let me just give you the exact verses second beat okay just give you these I remember these references off and here but four four this is second Peter chapter 2 and yes yeah so second Peter to fall yeah so it's not all of the all of one third so one third fell with Lucifer out of the one third some of them committed that sin in Genesis chapter 6 was for and those angels are bound second Peter chapter 2 was for they are cast in hell and they're held up and chains yeah okay sorry I'm from alright any other questions in the new the new earth will the population grow from our understanding no and the reason we say that is because in Matthew 19 Jesus says that there's this Matthew 19 okay oh let me give you the exact rest of it I'm not in 19 I'm sorry okay it's not Matthew 19 okay let me just look it up for a moment just give me a moment I will look it up also this is in Matthew 22 Matthew 22 alright so in Matthew 22 let me give you the exact way as I'm looking it up here Matthew 22 verse 30 right Jesus said Matthew 22 20 in the resurrection they need a marry nor are given in marriage but are as the angels of God in heaven so Matthew 22 verse 30 right so in the resurrection supposed resurrection in the glorified bodies we are like the angels so angels don't procreate amongst themselves and so we are like the angels is what Jesus said so based on that my inclusion is in the new heavens and the new earth they will procreation there won't be procreation this is just you know I'm not saying that this is the final word I'm just saying it's my understanding based on Matthew 22 verse 30 but if you look at Revelation 21 and 22 there is no yes or no it doesn't necessarily tell us but based on Matthew 22 30 we could arrive at this conclusion but it's not final okay the reason I say is when you get to new heavens in the new earth and in case the population is growing please don't tell them in the end times course I was told no I'm just joking okay all right Lori what's your question please come on is there there's a trend going on and this part of the world about putting timelines to when we should respect in Christ I know it has gone through many phases about the years but this time around it's kind of taking a new dimension I think the age range is between six to ten years that is what time period but I don't know what your perspective is about on that yeah see my my thought and in fact one of the signs that we're going to talk about is you know doing a little mathematical calculation anything we do and even what I'm going to show you you know because you said one generation and if you do that calculation that one generation you can arrive at some years anything we do anything anybody does is just a guess right it's just like us saying look we are really close because of all these signs we are seeing and one of the things is we can use what Jesus said one generation and arrive at some you know some sort of a calculation but it's still a guess it's still a guess you know and we should not take anything any guess not even what I'm going to share with you as as you know the word of the Lord no we don't do that we just Jesus just told us to be watchful he told us that when he gave examples like this like when you look up this look at the sky and you see the clouds are getting dark you know rain is about to come so that's kind of all that we are doing so to answer your question we are very close but how close are we but is it five years is it ten years is it 15 years is it 25 years we don't know right we've nobody can say for sure all we can say is look it's pretty very close because of all the signs we're seeing the clouds are really dark and it's going to rain when will it rain we don't know for sure but we know it's really close you know that's all we can say anything else I mean we understand it's only a it's only a guess that they're all making nothing is you know God's word you know when we talk about a year or a time okay Sri Kamaaya question please thank you master I want to know as we are discussing on the rapture and end times so we know that the Gentiles who are not believing on Jesus will be you know they will be left behind or they will not be taken what happened to those different churches with different congregations and what happened to those churches especially Catholic I just want to know the Catholic one also because you know they believe that there is Holy Spirit and they perform signs wonders miracles healing and and they are saying that that's from the Holy Spirit so will they be the part of the rapture or because even though they the Bible says that the Holy Spirit is the spirit of truth but they don't believe on the truth but they perform the signs wonders and miracles so in that condition how how the things will be taken please that was my question thank you master thank you now the fact is that our believers in all denominations mean genuine genuine born again believers for example I could have remained inside the Methodist church I mean I was born again while I was in the Methodist church and I got filled with the Holy Spirit while I was still part of the Methodist church now I could have stayed there and there are many people that I know say in the Methodist church or you know many denominations who are genuinely born again who love Jesus but they have decided to stay in that denominational thing because for various reasons maybe God is using them inside the denomination to you know to awaken others to the truth so even in the Catholic Church inside the Catholic Church there is a move of God and this actually started back in the 1960s or 70s if you look at church history there was a charismatic renewal within the Catholic Church and I forget the year now but I think it was somewhere in the 60s or 70s and you know one of them I think his name was Dennis Bennett he was a well-known person who got filled with the Holy Spirit inside the Catholic Church and then he wrote many books on the experience of Holy Spirit and so on so that means I'm very influential people who not only were born again but filled with the Holy Spirit within the Catholic Church who you know then can't use to initiate the charismatic renewal within the Catholic Church and that has spread globally so that yeah we have the Catholic Church which we know from outside is you know is it involved in a lot of rituals and worship of idols and worship of saints which are all wrong so we have that dead structure that we are aware of and even in many denominations you may see that but what we almost also must appreciate and recognize is within many of these denominations there is a genuine work of God taking place people are being saved and are being filled with the Holy Spirit so that is happening inside the Catholic Church and I personally know of people in Bangalore who are born again filled with the Holy Spirit but they've decided to remain inside the Catholic Church so that inside meaning in that you know religious environment so they can influence a lot of other people but they're born again they don't worship any of the idols they don't take part in any of these things but they're staying there because they are influencing a lot of people there's the charismatic renewal that's happening so all every person who's truly born again regardless of which denominational church or so on they will be taken up in the rapture and in the same way there may be a lot of people in Pentecostal spirit so-called Pentecostal charismatic churches will be left behind because they're not they may be just staying there because of you know it was nice to stay there maybe they generally weren't saved or whatever I'm just saying that at the end of what we know is those who are genuine believers will be taken up into heaven regardless of you know where they are or you can even think of many Hindus and Muslims you know there'll be a lot of Hindus and Muslims meaning believers they were never stepped into a physical church or been part of a local church simply because of the various reasons I mean thanks but they will also be raptured so why because they generally say they generally believe in Jesus Christ they just couldn't you know they didn't have the opportunity to be part of a local church but that they believed in Jesus now others may have thought they are Hindus or Muslims but they believed in Jesus and they announced everything else and just that they couldn't come out and you know be part of a local congregation as such the baby would look at it so you know God knows you know the Lord knows those who are here's so the Lord knows and they will be taken up and you know we'll all meet in heaven and those who are not saved will be left behind so I hope I answered yes ma'am thanks a lot thank you thank you so I see Rose is sharing them I'm saved while I was subbing the Catholic Church as well then God let me on another denomination look at everyone just saying screw me down there look at the heart to a Jesus or this or that thank you yeah that's nice thank you for sharing Rose good all right any other questions before we transition to that I just you know just want to clarify if anything so I love so we are all clear about the rapture of the church the seven year tribulation and so on so let me ask you a few questions can we give two good reasons two good reasons why we say the rapture of the church will take place before the beginning of the seven year tribulation two good reasons why do we say the rapture of the church will take place before the start of the seven year tribulation anyone just feel free you can type it or speak it out this is not this is not a quiz or anything I'm just just this one want us all to be clear I'm trying to remember the second reason but the first reason number one is until the Antichrist is revealed before the Antichrist has to be revealed the Antichrist has to be revealed before the Antichrist will be revealed after yes after the rapture so until the rapture takes place the Antichrist will not be revealed the revelation of the Antichrist is as a result of the rapture so until that happens until the rapture happens the Antichrist will not be revealed so that that that's one reason for raptures good good yeah so the the reference to use for that is second Timothy second Thessalonians sorry chapter two verse seven that is when he who restrains is taken out of the way then the man of sin the son of perdition will be revealed right so the rapture to take place then this Antichrist will be revealed I see I see the comments in the chat to see has said God does support believers to suffer yes a reference for that will be first Thessalonians chapter 5 and also revelation chapter 3 Abhishek says we don't call to wrath yeah that's revelation 3 Christopher says as believers we will be safe from the wrath of God like no one the lot Collins was not faced with a kid that's again Matthew 24 where Jesus said as the days of Noah so shall the coming of the Son of man be so how in the days of Noah you know the people were saved got into the Ark of safety then judgment was poured out then they're all subsided they came back to the earth you know that's a beautiful picture yeah I remember it's a common pastor the rapture only take place until the gospel of the kingdom has reached to the ends of the earth yes I think 24 again correct all prophecies fulfilled so you come on yes okay so next question this is just just just want to make sure that we are all together next question is at what point during the tribulation would the two witnesses appear when will the two witnesses show up will it be at the start of the tribulation will it be at the okay yeah I see that's response start of the second half of the tribulation correct the middle of the tribulation correct or when he's there yeah so next question we have some time which chapter is the beginning of which chapter in revelation is what I'm talking about which chapter in revelation is the middle of the tribulation how many how many chapters does revelation have what is half of 22 all right that's the answer right so revelation chapter 11 is right there the middle beginning of the middle of the tribulation right so revelation chapter 11 it begins like that it talks about the temple being trampled by the Gentiles and it says they would it be trampled for 42 months or 1,260 days that's right there yeah so I don't know how people decided on chapter and verse but all worked out fine 22 chapters half of 22 is 11 revelation chapter 11 starts with that you know saying that this is the middle of the tribulation revelation 11 so that's another way to remember it but the real fact is it just gives us that detail there revelation chapter 11 it says you know there is remaining 42 months 1,000 260 days okay now in revelation chapter 12 one last question then we can go for tea break you can relax a bit a revelation chapter 12 we read about the we read about the dragon the red dragon the serpent of old who attempts to penetrate heaven but Michael and the archangels push him and the dragon and his angels push him out and it cast him down to the earth why do we say that that event of satan attempting to penetrate heaven is an event that is going to take place in the future and not something that already took place in the past why do we say that this is big in revelation 12 yeah so satan's making an attempt to enter into heaven with all his angels why do we say that that is not a historic event but a future event that is yet to take place or will take place why do we say that yeah so but sansa's right verse 12 right because in that same chapter revelation 12 it says you know the devil is pushed back to the earth and he comes with great anger because he knows his time is short he says that he knows that means you know uh and and then it also tells us later on in the 14th verse it's it's you know time times and half time meaning he knows it's just three and a half years that's all he has so he knows his time is short and then the next verse 14 it tells us exactly what that duration is three and a half years so that's why we say that that description of satan and trying to get into heaven and michael danes was pushing him back sitting coming to the earth with great anger and knowing is something in the future why because the whole sick the way it's written it tells us clearly he comes with knowing that his time is short and he only has three and a half years left which is right in the middle of the tribulation that's when it will happen and it's a something out in the future that will happen in the middle of the tribulation not a historic event good good thank you okay i'm going to let you de-stress out of this quiz time uh please have your have a quick break uh we come back from the break and then we'll uh we'll start off the next chapter we'll start talking about the signs of the times unless anybody has questions okay so um take a quick break we'll be back in 10 minutes and we'll get started with our next chapter okay thanks