 Question is from Jamil, A-144. Are massage guns good for recovery or a waste of money? You know, so I'm gonna you, there aren't a lot of studies on massage guns. They feel good, I know that. But there are studies on massage. So I'm gonna put them in the same category as massage. And they actually have studied massage to see how it affects the body post exercise. Does it actually speed up recovery? Here's what they found. They found that massage does reduce the inflammatory markers that tend to be produced from exercise. So can they speed up recovery? Yes, but here's the caveat. They might actually reduce the muscle building signal that the exercise then sent. This is the catch 22 with things that speed up recovery. Things that reduce inflammation also simultaneously blunt the muscle building or adaptation signal because inflammation is what signals the body to adapt. So theoretically massage could benefit you or it could hurt you depending on where you're at with your training. If you're over the line, if you're training so hard that you're over the line of over training, then massage may bring you back to the point where now it's an optimal amount of inflammation. If it's not, if you're not at that line, it may bring down inflammation to the point where it actually reduces the signal that your workout just sent. So it really does depend a lot. I don't have a ton of experience with massage guns though. I don't know if you guys, do you guys even love them? They fall in the same category as foam roll for me. Like if it helps you get into a mobility move or get into a stretch, there's value in it. Do I think that a majority of people need to invest in the 200 something, I think they're like $2 to $400 for some of these things. I know that some people have made some hacks where you put it on like a- Yeah, you just get a drill and put a different attachment on it. Yeah, then you look like a weirdo, like with a sex toy in the gym or whatever. Yeah, so I think- I've seen those. Yes. Why are all the videos in slow-mo? Have you seen that? It's always like on some girl's butt and it's like- Back, back, back, back, back. Yeah, great selling point, right? Yeah, so I mean, if you've got the money to have things like this, I mean, I don't own one. Okay, so let's just, I think that's important to know. You're married to one, isn't you? Your girl's a massage therapist. She'd be offended, I would say. Yeah, no, she would be, actually. She gets really pissed when I use massage tools at all because she's got the magic hand. So yeah, you know, if you've got the money to have something like this and you're trying to work on your mobility and stretch more and do that, the thing that I always worry about with things like this, and again, foam rolling is included in this, your work is not done there. All these tools, both those tools, foam rolling and these guns, give you temporary relief so that you then can do the work you need to do to change the root cause of the issue. If you just do the TheraGun to release some of the tension and then you go about your normal behaviors, you're not really doing anything. You're just kind of putting a bandaid or putting a finger in the hole in the sinking boat. Like you've got to do something about what's causing the hip pain or causing the knee pain or causing the low back pain. Even though these guns give you the temporary relief or the foam roll gives you temporary relief, doesn't mean that it's technically fixing the issue. All it's doing is giving you temporary relief. What you then need to do is address what got you into that position. So I think it's a great tool. I think if you've got the money to have one in your bag and it promotes you doing more mobility and corrective work, fucking by all means invest in one. But it's not the answer and nor do you need it in order to address the issues that you potentially have. Absolutely. I think it's like a novelty that's nice. Like you feel good from it. It's just like, I mean, it's nothing new. It's like those massage wands and chairs and attachments. Like we've had these from infomercials forever, like just trying to like sit there and feel like a massage, something vibrating or like making not like going up and down my back, like that feels great. But at the same time, it's just temporary. So you look at it like that. Yeah. And what they do really is they, it's kind of like hacking the, the CNS, right? It sends a signal to the CNS. Like those vibrating plates, you know, when you use those and you get into a stretch and you can only go so far, stand on a vibrating plant and you'll find that you'll be able to go a little farther. It's literally confusing the CNS and the CNS starts to relax and the muscles then allow for more range of motion. If you use them properly, like what Adam was talking about, they can be very valuable. But if you just use them as band-aids, they're not going to benefit you. They're just going to give you that temporary relief. And then when that temporary relief is gone, the root cause is still there. And the, in fact, I could possibly even see how these tools may actually cause more problems for some people because it allows them to prolong the root problem even longer. No different than taking, you know- Yeah, masks the symptoms. Yeah, like taking a painkiller, you know, like if- No, this is a good point. This is what happened to me with my IT. So I used to foam roll like every day before I played basketball or do anything like that. And because I noticed- You pushed it further and further. Yeah, I just kept, and I never addressed why I was having these issues until way later did I really dig into like what was going on. Because it would, it'd give me temporary relief. I'd then be able to play basketball and I'd be paying for you while I was playing basketball, but then it'd come right back to me. Yeah, it's like, oh, I can't, when I squat my hip hurts, but if I foam roll, I can keep squatting. You're not figuring out why it hurts in the first place. You're just allowing yourself to squat more and then what'll end up happening is whatever was causing the problem in the first place, it's gonna get worse. So it all depends on how you use these.