 Welcome back. It's time to dive into the national dailies looking at the headlines on the front pages of those new super I'm glad to say we have joining us live to do justice to the headlines this morning Chief lecturer of the Nigerian Institute of Journalism G.D. Johnson. Good morning to you and thanks for joining us. Hello. Are you there G.D. Johnson? Okay, all right. We'll get back to G.D. Johnson as soon as possible Let's get things going with a look at the stories from the front page of the leadership on Friday very interesting and colorful front page and with these headlines coming from the leadership on Friday APC plunges deeper into crisis as Factional groups reject new state excursions yesterday We're told there was a Heightened police presence around Buhari House. Buhari House is the headquarter's national Secretariat of the all-progressives Congress right there in Abuja and with this headline coming this morning on the front page of the National of the leadership on Friday apc Plunges deeper into crisis as factional groups reject new state excursions The heightened police or security presence was because the national ketsuka committee of the apc was swearing in the state chairman and ex-goes of the apc There has the following writers ex-goes inaugurated without oath of office. That's uh, quite surprising Arekbe Shola's campaign office attacked. It's an exercise in fertility Magnus Abe's group We won't recognize Kana Zuru leadership says Aliero supporters We're still consulting line Muhammad's loyalists and Benware Niger factions head for court because after the state congresses Of the apc earlier. That's last year And quite a number of people a number of states came out with parallel Ex-executives and this is a problem the party is having So the front page of the leadership newspaper this morning at the top Nigeria losing major investors to escalating oil theft Nigerian losing major investors to escalating oil theft and one of the things someone commented online when the video of that exploded floating vessel emanated online was like oh, we're having reduced oil A production in Nigeria can meet our big targets Who hope that tomorrow the price of petrol won't be 600 naira and people began to laugh. Anyway, another one Fresh Sukuk fund raises federal government's capital releases to 3.65 trillion naira You can read more to understand what that means Zulum reiterates call for mercenaries to fight terrorists So is it it does you want to see the wabna group from from russia and nigeria Three die 12 missing as all vessel explodes in delta So that's an update on that story from the leadership newspaper Really really unfortunate and really sad federal government nabs 45 of 96 Boko Haram and aswap iswap financiers says insurgents have links with 123 companies quite Interesting and it's an interesting picture at the bottom of the uh, the front page a picture of a transportation minister Uh, right audible rotimi amici In a turbine it seems that um something interesting is happening today. Let's move on to the next newspaper And this is a nation newspaper with the leading headline Buhari rebuff's lobby to shift apc Convention date yesterday the papers told us that they had fixed february 26 And they were told that they had communicated that date To inek or they were about to communicate to inek now the president. We told his rebuffing lobbying Willing to shift the apc or seeking to shift the apc convention date the writer to that story no venue in party's notification letter to inek state chairman inaugurated at the top Ladojah joins high chiefs to endorse Balogun as Olu Badon Hijab Rao resurfaces in Quara one feared killed in valence. This is totally uncalled for Really sad. Osho APC governorship primary holds february 19 and uh, nigeria rejects coup as means to change government Staying with the nation newspaper Salami technology key to speedy justice delivery and three policemen shot dead Details within the pages of that paper. Oh, uneasy Igbo not interested in leaving nigeria apex body raises panel on 2023 president and at the bottom of the front page gunmen kill katzina mohawk for others and uk nigeria unite on security those are stories coming on the front page of The nation newspaper. Let's go straight to the daily independent on friday with these headlines I swap fast gaining ground recurring a recruiting massively zulu. That's governor of bonus state The following writers warns Boko Haram would be a child's play if I swap grows As federal government to reconsider hiring mercenaries to fight insurgents federal government uncovers 96 financiers of Boko Haram and iswap and pdp tasks federal government to publish names of terrorism sponsors Details on page six of the daily independent At the top of the front page federal government revises birth control policy to slow population growth Decries high fertility rate among nigerians Casualties feared after oil vessel explosion near warri 2023 presidency as the kicker crisis as sinubu's swagger tsg clash over Harmonization these are groups that were set up to support his presidential campaign The tsg is headed by I think former representative abdumamuni jibrin. It's called the tinnable Support group swagger is another one. We also have um, I think the bat Bola amitynable group or support group several ones of them coming up. All right 2.4 billion narrow fraud charges Okura cha asks buhari to stop efcc from harassing him Bandits attack at sena community kill village head and five others quarrel government shuts down school over hijab crisis And gunman attack a regular show last campaign office in oshobo All right, let's move straight to the punch in the sweeper quite interesting stories coming on the front page of the punch the lead story pdp cso's lampoon federal government as nfi you Uncovers 96 terrorism financiers With the following riders to 123 firms 30 through beroader shunge operators leaned to terrorists federal government Alleges terror financiers supporters will be revealed in court says a gf office With transparencies verdict buhari can't boast of fighting graft pdp More headlines from the punch workers fate on known as explosion rocks delta oil platform Cano sakuto absent as apc inaugurates state chairman amidst heavy security Ohanesi inaugurates lobby panel restates ego presidencies benefits and in Same linkage security agencies get buhari's nod to access subscribers details How safe is that at the bottom of that front page Quarabapti school shut as fresh crisis erupts over hijab Tensioners hoodlums attack a regular faction Arep shall affections sector it suspected suspects arrested police smash legacy but on highway kidnap syndicates gang members flee And of course I mean spoo harry alleges harassment by e of cc Politically motivated those are stories coming on the front page of the punch By time to move over to our guest and of course to bring in g.d. Johnson as chief lecturer other Nigerian institute of journalism Mr. Johnson, can you hear me now? Good morning to you Good morning. Good morning. Good morning, Trump. You are so nobody wants. All right, fantastic. Fantastic I'm sure this one was of elicited a little laugh from you Or interest from you when you read it or heard about it and the federal government uncovering 96 terrorism financiers 123 firms associated with terrorism and 33 Forex be rules or be rude exchange operators link to terrorism. Um, are you impressed? Well, um, it came up with different types of policies to regulate cash flow and not through our country It came on with them the dvm It came on with the single treasury account. These were all policies that were put in place to ensure to ensure that all money coming into Niger and going out of Niger can be trapped So it's not immune or something shocking to me as far as I'm concerned is even commonly That we should have been able to dip this in the pot because um, if The central bank the banks Have all our details with the bvm And the rest of all the policies they put in place It shouldn't be difficult for us to fight this terrorism because it is this large fund that they used To to to sustain to sustain their campaign. So well, and let's see what comes out of it Let's see that if government should be thrown and these people should be Prosecuted and they should be identified and they not only be identified They should be semi-fied So that Nigerians don't would they are and then much like should be thrown into it and kind of energy that we're putting in In arresting them because in arresting In in apprehending Sunday In in in the public company We should put it in place for this for this category of people because these are people that has made Niger Uncoverable and I mean I did not peaceful over over the last over the last over the last few years And it talks about the need for us to look at how the blue change Um So sector of a financial And industries is it is it is being operated? I have said it over time It's only in Nigeria that you see people selling money on the street. I've never seen anywhere in the world aware by you have you haven't What do they call this market? You haven't you have a parallel market apart from central bank whereby there will be people selling selling selling foreign currency However, whereas it should be the bank you should be able to get it to the bank not the not private individuals Having been with the change left at the center and is one of the reasons why the value of if I'm if I'm involved in trading In trading on currency and I know it gives me more to have dollars so that I can get more myself I won't pray for the value of Naira to to appreciate I always pray for the value of Naira to appreciate So as far as I'm concerned that aspect we need to look into and For the five out of out of 96, I think we could do more and we should do much more better This people should be prosecuted. They should be identified and they should be shame if I Interesting use the word shame if I'd Shame if I the JD Johnson because this isn't the first time and we're hearing the federal government coming out to say That we know we have terror terror finance says and sponsors We know who they are and the last time it was the honorable The minister of justice and attorney general federation Book a Malami essay and Saying that we know who the terrorists or who the sponsors of terrors are terror are and he's still saying something on this one The punches has a writer saying terror financiers and supporters will be revealed in court So that shame if I you want to see Malamis telling you that wait till they go to court then they will name or reveal them Well, well, um, so it's important for them to cut out the evidence Um, very well and so that the process is not corrupted I agree with him until the case is filed and the court we don't have any right to know has been arrested So that we have a watertight prosecution so that there are no loopholes And these people should not be given opportunity of repentance. You know one of the things we have had in fighting terrorism in Nigeria Is that after they are apprehended after we apprehend and this criminal elements non-state actors That have I'll go to the power of violence to themselves Is that once we arrest them and they will take they will now see what they have confessed They are repentant and then we put white white rope on them and we keep them sleepers And we gathered them under the canopy and government We do program we take photo ops with them And we release them back in this into into the site So as far as I'm concerned anyone that is caught engaging in one act of terrorism or the other Should not be given an opportunity to repent the dead can't come back to live and assert Is the repentance of of a terrorist. So that's that's my dig. Let's wait for let them do a watertight investigation So that we have a thorough prosecution and this you can be actually prosecuted without any Providing them with legal opportunities to be exploited the loopholes to be exploited for them to To do not be condemned to for for commit for committing any crime against humanity and against the nation Nigeria yesterday governor Zulum of bonus state was reported as saying that Those repentant Boko Haram members had truly repented that they truly changed You know that he's experienced with them in the whole You know Reformation or repentance program if you want to call it that and that they he can confirm that they have truly changed So isn't this isn't this a positive, you know He leaves with them He leaves with them in In houses He stays in their heart I've asked my student to come up with with how we could measure What would be what what what in this is going measured to use to measure To measure repentance can it can it be measured what scientific talk Are you going to use whether we are going to use qualitative or quantitative Measure to measure what repentance is and I situates that With the statement if the same governor said with respect to iswab Growth and now iswab is massively recruiting and now we need to use machinery to fight iswab So Ippu Kourama repenting what is providing the leverage and the levers for the growth of iswab In in in in Nigeria So I don't know you see these people they are master of double speaking They think that we are intelligent of that you are not intelligent and we are stupid If you say these people truly repent they are truly repented outcome You are the same setup. You are the same person saying that iswab is gaining ground And there's a need for us to use machinery before it is one of the major headlines in the in the in the history part Yes, so you can go ahead and talk about it. Yes And the threat that iswab post in Nigeria So if you are iswab is posing threat to Nigeria then I'll come the repentable program has not been able to keep The military and the security agencies require the intelligence To need Boko Haram in the board because if these people have been part and parcel of Boko Haram And they have actually repented They should be able to provide us with the needed intelligence that is required to fight and win this guerrilla warfare Modern day warfare are not won using cannons using using Yeah, you know doing Nigeria celebrated to Kano and the rest of all those Fighter jets that we got the weak guerrilla warfare that we this modern day warfare intelligence to need Need the intelligence these are people that have no physical The they are their mobile their mobile their mobile their mobile forces So you need to understand the terrain you need to understand their thinking And how do you understand they are thinking if it's not infiltrate their camp and if some of them have repented as claimed Then we should be able to name them in the board. Otherwise wouldn't be a big problem of iswab being a threat to Nigeria Um, thank you, Jimmy Johnson. Babak Dana Zulum is is is hands on governor. He's a professor in over and um Don't you think this this call by the governor of bonus state? Is something that is should be appreciated and is something that is timely And should be heated by the federal government and what's your not your own? Your own opinion of this idea of Zulum to engage mercenaries. Maybe he wants to see the likes of the Wagner Group or maybe black water from the United States of America I mean Nigeria. Do you think this idea to engage mercenaries? foreign private armies or or groups, you know, military groups should be Considered by the federal government I'm see you have not verified at the tree to see some some cliffs of of some foreign mercenaries that were used to fight the To fight insurgents in the in the in the north in the north west Nigeria wherever we engage mercenaries for modern issues and After this administration came on board to what is engaged to what is engaged allegedly I don't have all the facts, but allegedly to what is engaged. However, you must understand that in fighting war as well um nations which is of mercenaries makes of mercenaries these are these is a born trained guerrilla fighters you understand the What's the fight for the fight for? The fight the fight Not for for anything but for for their own interest and once you're able to meet their interest You need to you need to have them on on your side in order for you to win the war We have said that our conventional army have they make an in-road? Have we make have we make in-road? Have we achieved greater success using our conventional army? And I think that for us to fight this war, we need to use the multifaceted approach Use mercenaries use the pentagon go quaran use the locusts and so that we use the full prone multifaceted attack deal with this particular problem All right interesting interesting. So so um, you're saying you'd like to see something It's not a bad idea if we can bring in external help For Nigeria in these times. Yes. All right. Yes, of course. Okay. Let let let let's move on to quara state and Ugly, you know incident has read his head again. It's been there in the past, you know, even in neighboring Oshun state the issue of Students of the Islamic faith being allowed to Use the hijab in school. Now. This is a Baptist high school somewhere in Oshun state in quara state. Sorry Yes sending back some Muslim students and erupted into a violent clash and we hear one person was was killed You see don't don't don't worry this thing will be on the increase election is around the corner and you know religion is a key component part of Of building sentiments of of of building sentiment of assuaging the feelings of And so since the election is around the corner, you see more of this in quara state You see more of this in Oshun state the question on impact is Um, what would turn go on the rampage to protest? That a school should allow the achievement to wear hijab or not wear hijab You send the schools to every schools as soon Good of conduct as soon as it's like it's like If there's an Islamic school and someone is saying that you know What you want to wear? Want them to wear trouser to your school? I think we should have respect for one another Now if you go to a particular school, you should respect their values Not as much as you want to uphold your own value if you are not if that value does not conform to your own value You have to resort to violence Or violent protest to drive on your point. You can withdraw your kids and take your kids to other school That's not only school in that year but since everything has become politics and now we are in the era of politics so And then you know if there is if there is one Cost that studied human behavior that has to do with human interaction and property It's political science. So if you understand political science, you understand that these dynamics that is going on Is the science of politics for 2023. So as we begin the billions of people so I think that if the state officials are Are Fair and They are not biased and they are neutral in this matter. We don't have this type of problem Anyone that engages in violent protest and they are they are lost to deal with that They are better ways to drive on your point other than resorting to violence and destroy lives and property All right interesting interesting So you're basically saying that the government of our car estate should allow The baptist high school or any other school that feels it doesn't want Is students using the hijab to go ahead Some will argue that that that is an attack on religious freedom in Nigeria, which the constitution guarantees freedom of worship Let me tell you We if you say Nigeria is a secular state, Nigeria is not a religious state Would they allow traditional people to come with shakin? You know what it's called shakin Or would they allow traditional people to put calories on their head And calories on their head and come to the school Freedom of worship freedom of worship Yeah, but this is not worship center. This is a school This is the worship center. This is a school. There are schools I'm a Christian but there are some religious universities in Nigeria that I can never send my children I will never Because my value does not conform with their value I can't send my son to go to a school in the 21st century where they will not allow him to have access to his mobile devices I can't I can't send my son to a school That where they will not allow him to access the internet in the 21st century and there are Christian universities in Nigeria That do not allow sort And as a Christian, I can't even send my son there. I know that they have money. I know that's their standard That's the way they want to operate. I can't I can't send my son there. I can't even work there If I'm ready to work there if I'm ready to send my son there, that means that my son must come home To the rules and regulations that governs the operation of that of that of that now I don't have a freedom. Can I go? Can I Nigerian viewers? Can Nigerian viewers take their product to Kano? We do not be as trusted by the Isbaa police Using that the economic right. Okay. So we should respect each other. We should respect each other Let's move on. Jilly Johnson. Interesting. Interesting. Very very interesting thoughts. You have um Russia's a culture that some days ago, uh, you know informed Nigerians officially Of his intention to be the president of the federal republic of Nigeria And before it could even sit down to enjoy his dinner that day the EFCC had already filed charges bordering on some two missing 2.9 billion Naira against Russia's Accordia The latest we're hearing from the front page still of the punch in a surprise that uh, He has met president buhari And it's alleged alleging harassment by the EFCC And that this harassment is politically Motivated. So he's going to meet the president regarding the charges pressed against him or filed against him by the EFCC That's on the front page of the punch newspaper It was aroused in in in keeping his auntie to cook it up If you had no case to answer you should go to if you if you had no case to answer If you appeared before the court the court is there to clear his name. Why should he be afraid? Either goes to equity must go with if his aunt are clean Why doesn't he to go and see the president? He doesn't need to see the president If he thinks that the issue is politically motivated Let it take the case to the court once the case gets to the court It's no longer in the hands of yes It's not in the hands of the judge and the judge will rule over that matter And whatever the whatever judgment that is passed She will be fair enough to see whether it's politically motivated or not politically motivated Anytime to steal money. They don't remember that they are doing politics But when they are coming for them To account for For infractions for abuse of office and privileges they start screaming is politically is politically motivated If you don't want political politically motivated Arrestment from from prosecuting agencies of government Then don't be politically motivated to abuse your office and the privileges that you have been given So as far as I'm concerned is black adage And if the president should entertain him Well, the president is not sending the right signal to the to the security agents and the security bodies In doing their in doing their job as well as I'm concerned. He's just crying He's crying blue murder is playing your street But I mean Junior Johnson, so some people have pointed out, you know that Um, we have other personalities. Let's stay within the political sphere. Um, who have had Cases that need to be looked into Petitions that have been sent to the EFCC Regarding them. I won't go into the names now and then nothing has been done about these people persons Nothing has been filed before the court And russia's case of this is so fresh one now Nothing was said until he said I want to be president and then he did his old razzmatas and did the ceremony Which has been live on national tv and then that same day that same day They went to to court, you know took him to console Let's let's put it in perspective. That's why some of us have argued that the office of the attorney general should be devoid of politics It should be devoid of politics. The attorney general should be separated from mr. Tuskis. Are you are you with me? um It is this mixed messaging And this double-sided approach that EFCC has adopted that gives people the opportunity To criticize them of strange favoritism and of of of of being politically motivated in in in persecuting their cases And if you have one two three four five examples, it becomes a pattern It is no longer a mistake because you have cases of people that have petitions against the barriers that are not against them We have those that the judiciary has thrown has thrown away out of technicalities My take on this is very simple after years. I always interested who becomes a president We should be interested in who are appointed into judicial positions Who become the chief justice of the federation who goes into the supreme court who goes into the appeal court We should be interested the media should prove spotlight We should know the antecedent and we should know what um, what what is their judicial philosophy Because there are three arms of government The executive the judiciary and the legislator Unfortunately, we throw too much attention to the executive for getting that there are two other Critical institutions that are critical to the sustenance of democracy of having democratic society That's the judiciary and the legislature. I hope moving forward would be interested in what happens in these two other arms Not just to leave voting for the governor, but who represent me the house of rep who represents me In the senate who represent me the house of in the house of assembly and who are those that are appointed into judicial Into judicial positions. What has been their track record since they joined the judicial since they joined judicial So I think that's the way we be able to leave this issue of a politically motivated prosecution or not Okay, uh, but what what does this say um to you, you know, when you you see that Um, a politician who is being investigated or tried For corruption by the afc. He makes his way to asa rock villa to see the president to complain to him I mean, what does this say? That that this has become the pattern of the politicians to go cry to the presidency the investigating me Um, and and you know, what would you say the president? You know makes easy experience to say afc hands off or what? Well, they are going for photo ops And so once they see that they have access to the seat of power They are trying to To use your communication strategy For example appear before the president and I get access to asa rock And then the next time we invite me to come and then you see that the first time he invited me Shortly after you released me. I was in asa rock to see the president and I have photo ops with president Now he says signal to whoever is at the lowest level that you know, this guy had access We didn't even know what this guy was because of the president So if this guy could have sent the president, then what are we going to do? We have seen situation whereby people that have cases With with people that have cases with afc you are rewarded with important appointment in national assembly even principal officers We have seen cases of people that have engaged in in In in power lens against the sanctity of democracy being being Being rewarded with with with with top positions in the national assembly So you recall that during I can't recall which senate whether is the fifth or the or the sixth state Where one senator from from Niger state stood up in the floor of the senate and said that majority of the people Is seen in the senate with himself. There were people that he has arrested He has he has the attest by as the police officer of thrones And when he was seen when he was seen the senate had to quickly Receive into an executive to an executive session Go to the federal executive council. How many members of the federal executive council have cases with AFS? How many members of the senate? Have cases with AFS. How many members? Of AFS So that's why people have lost interest in the fight against corruption thinking that where corruption is It's it's not been it's not been It's not been addressed the way should be addressed because a lot of politics has gotten into it I'm sure I'm not a few Nigerians who will be concerned about the caliber of persons who are Vying for the presidency that have Especially those that have corruption corruption cases hanging over over them Let's let's say with the southeast and the press for an Igbo president in Nigeria come 2023 because still on the front page of the punch in the stripper This headline is there. Orhanese inaugurates lobby panel Restates presidency's Igbo presidency's benefits. I'm sure best benefits to Nigeria Orhanese inaugurates lobby panel restates Igbo presidency's benefits But before you respond to that they have yesterday said that The EFCC EFCC should stop attacking the southeast, you know, and stop working against An Igbo presidency. They're seeing some of these cases as an attack on the people of the southeast What do you say to that jelly Johnson? And if the organization look at the administration Of the southeast by the governors, if you know what for years for try to idea come and look at me This is how it begins at all. What have they been doing with respect to dealing with the issue of corruption charges that have been labeled It means governors of the southeast and governors across across across Nigeria. I think that Orhanese as as a body Is not doing what he's supposed to do in such life and ensuring that as the governor's the southeast And that people that are elected are providing Delivery boost of democracy for for for the people of the southeast The southeast usually cries of marginalization But the question you ask is what have you done with the resources and with The level of governors they have had at the local and at the state and at the state level taking that to the presidents to recall what has made the voice of Orhanese against the decision movement of Of what have they done with respect to that because in one of the in one of the writers Orhanese said The south is as no No, no, no no plans to exit out of Nigeria. That's coming to lead for me That's coming to lead for what used to be the whole of Biafra Tends to have part of the south south with the exception of delta and enduced it for the bulk of what used to be southeast What eastern region there south south and southeast now as the south The core south east and politician are they integrated their agenda with that of south south Would the south side go with the south east there are closest people Who used to be part and parcel of Biafra then and we used to be part and parcel of south Eastern Nigeria then the eastern region then would they go along with the south east now the south The agenda shouldn't be limited to the five states of Of of the south east or should be a standard to acquire form cross river Um river state delta state and those states so that you have an holistic integration Around that's it. What used to be start what used to be the eastern region in 1960 To 66 has been drastically eroded with the creation of states In Nigeria and they are not coming to terms with that And then you have this this different types of not speaking with one warrant Not speaking with current twice What's what's the direction of the south east? Uh south east politics. What's the direction? What's the agenda? But but do you do you feel that this this because you've asked the question What's the direction? What's the agenda and a lot of people have also asked that question and what structures are they building? You know, how they're reaching out You don't even have a political structure and all that but now we're seeing that they have inaugurated a lobby panel Um, and of course lobbying means you you have to you have to reach out to to other people So isn't this a a good start? Now let me put it across to you is obi obi um And javid umai Are they all on the same page? or jiu-zoku? now The south the southern part of Nigeria came together and said, you know what? We need to have our own local community police. So the southwest responded with amoteco As the south is been able to come up with his own You see And they've been able to you see you must understand the dynamics of far and I've told my friend The south is that is unfortunate that the south is by their nature. They are republican Well, we must understand they are republican in nature. So everybody is on his own. However in the corporate Larger interest of Nigeria, you must understand the dynamics and come together So to play the politics the way it should be played You see From my own understanding. This my own opinion. I might be wrong. It is pretty difficult Based on the dynamics of Nigerian politics as presently constituted For a southeast person to be the president of Nigeria. I might be wrong I might be wrong. It's just my autism But understand the dynamics and the question I've thrown to my friends and my colleagues that are from the southeast is that What type of policies did you play that? nine years Nine years after the end of the civil war the south is at the vice president In the second republic the south is at the speaker Of the house of rep in the second republic the south east What used to be the south is dead The senate president in joseph wyars Emile zealky as a speaker alexa quenme asked The vice president. What type of politics did the south is played nine years after Civil war that they were able to be integrated and to be rewarded With those positions that the only position the south was called was national chairman Of the great party. That was the most significant Now they need to go back to the drawing boards and understand the dynamics Of politics. Well, I since I'm being consulted for them in the water consultation. They should come to my office I'll give it to them. Let me stop it. All right I'll be writing the invoice for you so we can we can split the bill We have to go but interestingly do not carry it in the papers today Yesterday evening news coming out that after namdekandu had through his one of his lawyers ifi age of four transmitted information to his people that they should start talking peace and they released a statement ipo be through their Their publicity secretary Ema powerful that they're ready to talk peace to the federal government if the federal government is ready to sincerely and honestly also In a secure manner discuss peace with them in in one or two sentences Won't that also play well for the politics of the southeast ahead of 2023 exactly peace and unity Peace and unity this country is stronger our strength is in our number Our strength is in our diversity And what's that is peace and unity and there's equity there's fairness in what we do I like I told you use the 1979 case as a case After nine years of civil war the integration Into national life So once there is peace and federal government and shoot shoot shoot and when we talk about federal government federal government is not the presidency federal government is national assembly the judiciary and Also these governments to have a role to play in this scheme of things and I think we do that Without peace in the land Peace in the land their prosperity. All right. There can be peace if there's no unity And if there's unity of peace and if there's peace of prosperity These three cardinal factors are what we need in Nigeria for us to grow and achieve our dreams. Thank you Okay interesting Very interesting analysis, but please if you're consulted jillie johnson. You can call me, you know to be You know your secretary And I guess you're nice because this will come all right. We give you today. Thank you very much jillie johnson is a chief lecturer with Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you very much for your time jillie johnson is a chief lecturer Other Nigerian instagram journalism like you had him say we still have some more discussions ahead right here on the breakfast And plus tv africa today's world cancer day We speak with a cancer survivor and advocates as well on the importance of such a day stay with us