 Hey everyone, this is Gabrielle with Oxma. I agree we're here at Oxma Toyota today. I have Chuck Schumann here with us I guess now today. We're actually gonna do a comparison on a 2017 Sienna versus a 2017 Kia Sedona, so Chuck's gonna just touch bases on a few different different. I guess pieces of information So check why don't you go ahead and start us off? Absolutely, and of course Gabby I'm biased in Toyota Chuck, but I think just stylized the Sienna's a better look than what the Kia is, right? It's I mean, that's all you know based on your personal preferences, but that's how I feel But then the things that you can measure are things like the engine like our The Sienna has a new transmission new engine 2017 actually gets more horsepower than the Sedona does It also gets better fuel efficiency as well So they've really improved all of that and so you get better performance out of the Sienna And you know with Toyota's the reliability is there that last for forever, right? The other cool thing the Toyota Sienna comes with all-wheel drive where that's not even an option You know in any other minivan. We're the only one that has that and so that's really cool feature Especially around here in the wintertime, you know with the snow and all of that But then also the reason you get a minivan is for space you haul a lot of people you want to be comfortable You take this on road trips the Puzzle the passenger the drivers position all have more headroom or legroom It's just bigger better space and then I think our console and everything's laid out a bit a little bit more Just intelligently it's very you know user-friendly It is and then big space back here as well in the passenger side and then the cargo because you're gonna be hauling a lot of stuff Bigger cargo space back here by about six cubic feet. Okay compared to the Sedona. So you see that real deep well Good, you know space back there as compared to the space here in the Sedona. So Right Better space bigger engine better fuel efficiency Available all-wheel drive really cool features and then the reason that you get a Toyota They hold their value really well resell value of the Sienna much higher than the Sedona Residual on that's just much higher. So if you're looking for a long-term investment short-term investment can't go wrong