 Good morning ladies and gentlemen, a very warm welcome to the first day, to the second day first session of the Conclave 2023. With me is a man who needs no introduction, the man himself, Sri Rahul Gandhi ji. At the very outset, I extend my warmest greetings and thank you Rahul ji for taking out time from his busy schedule to be a part of our humble endeavour. Before I start putting forward few questions, I would like to share a small story with you all. So around two months back, I reached out to Rahul ji's office, seek an appointment to invite him here today. He patiently heard me out and then at the end he told me, Rishi, it's been a while I've not been to these format, these type of format events and I'm not sure but still for you I will try. Then I came back to Guwahati office, we discussed what to do, what not to do. So for every session when you hold a conclave like this, there are a lot of speakers, so someone might come, someone might not turn up so we have to look for alternatives as a backup. We look for backups for everyone but I stood by it that Rahul ji will come till the last day. So if Rahul ji wouldn't have come today, it would have gone blank because I was 101% sure even at the last moment he will come for us and ladies and gentlemen please understand it's after six long years, he is in this format, he has not been to any national channels also, we take pride in that and thank you Rahul ji for choosing Assam and Northeast to be a part of this endeavor, thank you so much. To begin our conversations you have seen Rahul ji in the parliament, in the press conferences, in political rallies, so today we would like to have some candid conversations with him. To begin with Rahul ji, recently the Instagram we saw a lot of pictures of a bike rally to Ladakh and it looked more like you look more like a professional biker, so you stung the whole media by going there on a bike and the pictures really look nice, so what was the intent behind it, was it the person trip you wanted to visit it, usually youngsters do that on a bike to Ladakh, so what was the, was it an extension of Bharat Jodo, you know good morning all of you, it's a pleasure for me to be here, thank you for inviting me, you know we do political tours and the political tours if you see most of us politicians they're very straightforward, go to a place, have a public meeting, come back and I don't think that format is useful or powerful in any way, it's not it's not effective and so when we do tours now we think slightly deeper about the message that we're trying to give and the sense we're trying to give the people of the state and so the message that we wanted to give to the people of Ladakh, first was that we are not going to let inaccessibility, bad roads stop us from reaching any corner of Ladakh, we're not going to allow the people to feel that they are so far away that we cannot reach out to them, number one, number two, we wanted to give a message to the people of Ladakh and the people of India that tourism is very important for Ladakh, people traveling from the rest of the country to Ladakh is the lifeblood of Ladakh, it supports them, it's beautiful, it's an excellent motorcycling route and so we gave, we wanted to give multiple messages through that tour and I think it was very effective, it also allowed me to in a sense continue the idea of the Bharat Jodo format in a different way, different way of engaging with people, if you go, if you speak from a stage you don't really connect with people like you do when you physically meet them, hold their hand, you know get a hug from them, maybe these days get a selfie, so it's a totally different feel, you travel there on the eve of late Rajivthi's birthday, am I correct or did Rajivthi mention about this to you or yes he had said once somewhere, he had said once that you know Pangong lake is one of the most beautiful places he's been to and I had always been trying to go to Pangong lake but somehow never managed to go there, it's actually quite complex to go there, the road is pretty bad and it takes quite a long time to go, so I was keen to go and we made sure that we went there, we also made sure that we went to all the regions of Ladakh, coming to Bharat Jodo Yatra, the name itself describes what's the intent of the Yatra, we have seen all the coverages, we have read about it, we know why the Yatra was organized but we don't know your perspective, politically what were your learnings from this Yatra, I'm sure you met thousands of people, you have heard their stories, you held their hands, you walked with them from Kanyakumari to Kashmir, so politically what were your learnings from it and as a human being also, I mean politically my learnings were that in 21st century India the communication architecture is so captured by the BJP that it is practically impossible to talk to the people of India through that communication architecture and I mean for example it's very clear that even things like my YouTube channel, my Twitter, they're all suppressed, there's no question about it, we can see it right, so the Yatra was almost a necessity for us to communicate because no matter what we say in the opposition, it does not move through without distortion in the national media and so for me the big learning was old style communication, going and meeting people which frankly Gandhi ji pioneered in India in the modern era, others pioneered it you know in the older times and you have examples all over the world, all over India, that still works and what was beautiful to me was that no matter how much energy the BJP put no matter how much the media tried to distort, it didn't work because there was a direct connection and for every story that the BJP media was trying to put in, there were thousands and thousands of videos coming from people which were contradicting that story, so it was almost a reverse capture of the mass media and this problem is being faced across the world, this problem is not just an Indian problem, it's being faced in many other countries and when I go there and I speak to them it's very interesting that pretty much all countries are feeling this type of pressure, that's a political learning and I mean that's fine but for me the personal learning was even more interesting which was that where you think your limit lies is nowhere where your limit actually lies, so your limit is much much further than you than you can even imagine and it's not just in you know politics it's in everything and I think it's the same for everybody that normally you'll think okay but by definition when you're thinking that you can do that you're already short changing yourself because what you can do is almost not imaginable to you. Rahul ji I'm sure there might be some learnings see this I get disturbed when we're having this type of conversation you call me Rahul or call me you know Mr. Gandhi or something like this Rahul ji doesn't I don't like it I'll then yeah because I'm not calling you G so then you shouldn't call me G okay so I'll stick to Mr. Gandhi yeah call me Rahul right so Rahul this yatra after the yatra or while you're continuing the yatra as well when I mentioned political learnings I'm sure you might have come out with few solutions which you might want to implement if voted to power there might be certain issues which you might have picked up during the yatra that you you know that it can be solved like this or like that whatever so are there any issues which you want to pick up if voted to power and find solutions to it see when you're when you're thinking about these things there are a couple of levels at which you have to view them so the foundational level in my view is is there fairness and participation meaning for example does the northeast feel that it is participating in the national conversation does the northeast feel that its ideas its culture its vision is being incorporated in the national conversation so that would be a basic fairness right and there on many axes India is just completely failing right I did a speech in parliament where I raised the point that the core of Indian government 90 people who run this country and they have much more power than MPs in MLAs they decide policy that's not how it was supposed to be MLAs and MPs were supposed to decide policy and that's how we started but today bureaucrats decide policy and so I looked at the 90 top bureaucrats in this country and I was shocked I mean I've completely blown away three of them are OBCs now the question arises what is the percentage of OBCs in India what is the percentage of Dalits in India what is the percentage of tribal minorities in India if we do not know that we cannot even begin to question to address the issue of fairness no fairness right we know by and large there are 50% women in India so we have a sense of okay we know how to address this issue because we know they're 50% women and so it should be by and large 50% breakdown if I see 50% women sitting here I'm comfortable right but in large areas we just don't know it so for me the caste census now is a central pillar of thinking about equity in this country so that that would be at the broader at the broader level and then you say okay are we giving our kids the type of education we should be giving are we giving them and their parents and their grandparents the type of healthcare system that we should be giving them and then they were there we have examples so I was in Rajasthan yesterday and I think the healthcare solutions that we have come out within Rajasthan are cutting edge anywhere on the on the planet in the 21st century and so there there we can see that okay there are some ideas that Rajasthan has developed if you go to Chattisgarh some of the work that we are doing with connecting traditional production activities manufacturing activities some of the work we are doing with farmers is completely cutting edge you go to Karnataka the social security system we have set up in Karnataka cutting edge so there are examples of these things we can look and say okay you know this state is doing well Rajasthan can become a framework for a national healthcare solution Raul ji coming to Rajasthan Chattisgarh when after 2014 non-bjp non-bjp parties did win few of the states and after that there was an air that there might be a change in 2019 in the government but obviously that did not materialize coming in coming days you have four major state elections you might win all of them or might not win any of them or might be no no no no no the the question of us not winning any of them is not going to happen I'll tell you I would there's no question there's no there's no way we're not going to win any of them okay I would say I would say right now we are probably winning Telangana right we are certainly winning Madhya Pradesh we are certainly winning Chattisgarh okay Rajasthan we are very close and we think we'll be able to win okay so that's that's what it's looking like and by the way that's also what the BJP is internally saying right we we learned a very important lesson in Karnataka okay and the lesson was that the BJP wins elections by distracting and not allowing us to construct our narrative and so what we did in Karnataka we fought the election in a way where the BJP could not what you're seeing today you know this gentleman Mr. Biduri and then suddenly this Mr. Nishikant Dubey this is all the BJP trying to distract from the idea of the car census they know that the car census is a fundamental thing that the people of India want and they don't want to have their discussion so every time we bring a a point on the table they use this type of stuff to distract and we've learned now how to deal with it sir if you're finished we've learned how to deal with it so what did we do in Karnataka we gave a clear vision for the state this is the social security program that we're going to set up for you and then we control the narrative if you look at the Telangana election we are controlling the narrative the BJP is not even in the narrative now it's gone in fact the BJP party has been decimated it's over in Telangana if you look at the narrative in Madhya Pradesh we are controlling the narrative if you look at the narrative in Chhattisgarh we are controlling the narrative no matter what the BJP tries to do they're not capturing the narrative anymore so we are also adapting and learning right if you go and speak to the people of Rajasthan and you say listen what is the key issue in terms of anti-incumbency in Rajasthan and you can go and do this they'll tell you actually we like the government we like what they've done on health care we are very comfortable with the type of stuff they're doing 500 rupee gas cylinder the farm farm loan waiver we are very comfortable with it so we are adapting in a situation where the BJP controls the media we are adapting and controlling the narrative so if you look at Bharat Jodo we control the narrative and they put in thousands and thousands and thousands of crores to take away the narrative they couldn't do it right so don't think the opposition isn't capable of adapting we are adapting we're working together we are 60 percent of india's population BJP's and for a surprise in 2024 that's what my next question was so if you win three states four states i appreciate the confidence i'm my best wishes for you so if you win it's if you if you silently go and ask the BJP people you ask the you ask the BJP leadership in Rajasthan right ask them what's going to happen in the election they'll tell you ask them ask them what's happening in Chhattisgarh they'll tell you but will it set the momentum for 2024 if you win maybe four of them are you confident it'll set the momentum for 24 because that did not happen in 19 i'm sure you have learned and adapted like you are saying right now controlling the narrative pushing forward your agenda so look i'll i'll tell you what the i'll tell you what the game is the BJP has basically created a friendly monopolist okay his name is mr adhani i assume you've heard his name you've heard his name see you're even you're even a bit hesitant you're even a bit hesitant to right so he has created this gentleman and essentially is handing over the key industries of our country to this gentleman and this gentleman controls a significant chunk of the media in this country right and there are other monopolists but this man is the main gentleman so there is a massive concentration of wealth that this gentleman has and there is a huge amount of money that the BJP is generating from this right so there is media control there is financial control right please go and ask any businessman in India what happens to them if they support an opposition party if they if they were to write a check for any opposition party ask them what happens to them right so we are facing a financial attack we're facing facing a media attack and we're doing pretty well we've banded together we are i have not seen the opposition working like this before where where we can sit down on the table and we can say look we don't quite agree with you on that and they can say well you know we don't agree with you on that and we'll say okay so what about this compromise solution and they're like absolutely this works for all of us right so there's a great deal of flexibility and i am i must tell you i am very impressed with the flexibility that all the opposition parties are showing because we understand what is at stake here what we are not fighting now a political party right we are fighting the indian state and we are fighting to defend the idea of india and that is why we have given our name india india sir what's your opinion on one india one election combining assembly elections with luke sub elections what's your take on that it's it's one of the bjp's distraction strategies right okay look we started off with one election right right in when we started our elections why do we have different dates because in the indian system a chief minister can say actually in year two i feel comfortable enough to win an election and i'm going to hold an election right so at any point a chief minister can declare elections right so obviously that's why this is happening do you think it's practically possible with so many states so many political dynamics and then luke sabha it's a distraction it's a look the main issues in india are simple concentration of wealth huge inequality in wealth number one number two massive unemployment number three huge unfairness towards the lower caste towards obc is towards tribal communities these are issues everybody knows though price rise thousand rupees cylinder right now bjp can't contest those right so let's have mr biduri make a statement let's have you know let's get together and sort of have elections together one you know let's change the name of india this is all distraction we know it we understand it and we're not going to let them do it sir recently the they had been discussions on the woman's reservation bill and this is one of the bills where congress party has come out in support of but excluding the two footnotes which you had been mentioning in the parliament also and also in your press conference recently so what is the reservation on that i mean uh the women's bill which every single party has supported it can be implemented tomorrow morning all you have to do is you have to say 33 percent of the seeds are going to be reserved for women and the luke sabha and the bidon sabha it's very simple there's nothing more to it if the bjp was serious about doing it that's what they do there's there's no connection between giving women's reservation and census there's no connection between giving women's reservation and delimitation they're not connected right so once again it's a distraction they suddenly needed you know they came up with the idea of the special session and they they needed something that they came out with because we made a speech about adhani and that newspaper we did a press conference about adhani and the newspaper the financial times came out with a story suddenly they want to do a special session the first thing they were planning in the special session was you know india go barat and then they got a backlash they realized that there's a huge cost to this people were not like this so then they back down on that now they've come out with this but they've not actually given anything to the women of india what they're saying is that's all may up go women reservation bill mille jayga and we are saying okay sir um if voted to power do you commit that without the footnotes you'll get it implemented as soon as possible absolutely i mean 100% see please look at our record i i spoke in parliament the other day that we consider the independence to be the beginning of the transfer of power to the people of india not the end the beginning right one man one vote uh institution set up in the interest of the people of india and we consider that to be work in progress and we feel very strongly that indian women are not participating in the political system the way they should be the single biggest act to help indian women participate in politics was carried out by the congress party which is 33% reservation in panchayatiraj that is the that was a game changer and we want to do this and it's our record please also remember that when we were trying to pass the 33% uh reservation in panchayatiraj the bjp opposed us and also realize that the rss does not allow women into its ranks so who is interested in women's empowerment is very clear sir coming to india alliance uh it's a it's a new marriage you have had had uh run a coalition government for 10 years up a 1 up a 2 but now you have new partners in the india alliance which were your principal opponents in certain places for example armadmi party in delhi tmc in bengal so as of now it looks nice it seems everything is going fine but when it comes to distribution of tickets um there are many tall leaders in this alliance you have worked with but you have not worked with or of course we have for a brief we've run a government with you have not worked with and there are many like tmc they might be there from outside support but not no but we work with mamtaji i mean mamtaji used to be in the congress sir uh my question to you is going forward uh like armadmi party and uh congress both you ruled delhi for quite a long time and now armadmi party is strong in the delhi politics so what would be the dynamics then because you will also like to retain power in delhi they will also like to fight similarly in west bengal uh tmc has shown his strength over a period of time at the same time the leader of opposition from your party is from west bengal so obviously you would also like to throw some weight and win some seats from there but tmc is quite strong there they have shown their strength they have a proven track record how do you think you will manage these and also accommodation of the tall leaders which are there as partners in your indian times so there are two things right the first thing is that the opposition is thinking about this election in a fundamentally different way than it thought about any other election before this one which is that the opposition is united in the idea that india is now under attack the concept of india the concept of free elections the concept of free speech they are now under mortal threat as far as the bjp is concerned so this is this is something that is unanimous which means that our behavior has to change which means that our flexibility has to increase which means that we have to realize that we are now fighting for the soul of india which requires a different level of cooperation that's the first the first point the second point is actually if you look at the alliances the bulk of them are pretty much stitched up there are a couple question marks but the bulk of them are stitched up right kerala bihar madhya pradesh the big places there's no issue in some of the smaller places there's an issue we will try to iron out those issues right but the broader way we are dealing with each other is that we are seeing each other now as defending the idea of india earlier we were thinking that look this is a fight between a political party and another political party now we're saying no no no no no now the rss and the bjp are trying to destroy the idea of india free speech participation of everybody you know the destruction of anybody any business person who stands against these monopolies these are anti-india ideas sir if voted to power what is your idea what what are you going to do for the obc if for example you are saying bjp is deviating from the topic with an urgent session woman's preservation bill are you also planning to control the narrative like you said you're learning from them and from the past experiences are you also controlling the narrative by speaking up for the obc's no and uh planned something you have in mind to do for them who once voted to power if uh i used obc as a frame right i was shocked that out of 90 people who control the government of india three are from the obc community right and those three people control five percent of the indian budget 95 percent of the indian budget is not in their control and i haven't even spoken about the tribals i haven't even spoken about the dalits or the minorities right now this is not only the case in secretaries of government of india this is the case across the board so the first step as i said in a speech yesterday if somebody gets hurt they go to hospital the first step is okay take an x-ray let's see what's happened right so the cast census is an x-ray let us actually understand our obc's five percent of india's population or are they more if they're more how much more so that is the foundation of any discussion now we already have the obc census data it's with the government of india the congress party carried out that survey right the first thing we'll do is release that information on on day one that information will be available to the people of india and i think that is in a world in a 21st century world data where we all say data is key data is key data is key well it's key to know who's who so that would be the foundation and then we would work as i said earlier with the concept of transferring the transferring power to the people of india what the bjp is doing is taking away power from the people of india when you feel uncomfortable when you can't speak outside when a small business man cannot contest mr dani they're taking away power from the people of india right we are fighting that that's what india alliance is trying to do take back power to the people of india coming and that includes a accessible education system an accessible high quality education system it includes an accessible medical system it includes support to small business people it includes support to small media houses you know you you asked me listen uh i told you listen i haven't gone to these conclusive well i would consider you a relatively small player i'm sitting here i'm trying to give a message that look we are we want everybody in india regardless of who they are how big they are to feel comfortable we don't want them to feel we don't want them to feel look and and and it is not only farmers it's small business people it's it's somebody who's contesting in a business environment where he's being unfairly treated by a huge monopolist right we want the energy of india to to build the country we don't believe that one or two people can build the country we believe that if you really want to build the country we have 1.4 billion people and they should participate in the governance of this country they should participate in businesses they should participate in building the infrastructure it should be a much more spread out process so since we are from sam and noughties so i'll like to ask few things on that sir uh you are one of the few tall leaders who had visited manipur visited the relief camps and met the displaced people so what are your learnings from there and also few pointers which you wish to put forward to come out with a message a solution for them look i've been in politics i've been in politics now since 2004 and i must have traveled to pretty much every district most districts i visited two or three times every state i've never seen what i saw in manipur in my entire life in indian politics i've not seen it right and i'll tell you i'll tell you the story when we arrived there both all the communities were very happy for me to go and they all invited me when we arrived there when we were going to visit one community say we were going to visit the kooky community or the metay community we were told before we entered that listen we are very happy for you to come but if in your security there is a person from the other community we will shoot him so we had to before we entered the area we had to say okay we are going into kooky area metays please leave and then when we were going into metay area we had to say okay we are going to kooky area metay please leave now i have never seen this where where the government of india has absolutely no control where the government of india cannot send a its own paramilitary force personnel into an area so what has happened is that the politics of hatred that the bjp has been playing with has basically destroyed the state of manipur manipur you said you said the state of manipur and i was thinking well actually no the idea of manipur does not exist anymore it has to be brought back to life and the culprit is the politics of the bjp right so that's an extreme example of what happens when you make people fight with each other and we went and you know we spoke to some of the administration people and they said look we have no control we simply cannot control it i've never seen this in my whole life in india i mean you can expect this you know in in rwanda maybe where there's a civil war you can't you're not expected in india and so this is the danger of what the bjp is doing the danger is that this will spread sir in perspective of wasam whenever there is an election let it be assembly loksaba or rajasaba there's always a question of you of congress having an alliance with aiadf ajmal say adf there have been partners with you in upa as well as far as i know that's not a question anymore so do you confirm that we are not having an alliance with them okay so noughties has eight states now out of which four are ruled by regional parties who are in alliance with the nda that's that's an that's not correct actually all of them are you ruled by the bjp okay i'll put it there every single one of them is ruled by the bjp using the coercive power of the indian state do you have any plan to bring them in your fold because it has 24 seats absolutely so are you in talks with them which ones no i mean i'm i do i don't get into the operational details at the state level that's work that our our parties in the local area do i mean of course they do discuss it with mr khargay and sometimes with me but that's more their responsibility okay but what we do what we do clearly see is that there is pressure from the bjp these are not just you know uh happy partners happy partners there's pressure there's clear pressure and they speak to us okay will sam see a bharaj jodo yatra well that's um or that that that's work in progress and we don't want to we don't want to ruin ruin any possible surprises we also have some beautiful roads like ladak you can bike around there if you want so yeah i mean i'm i'm planning now a trip to mesoram okay um and i think that is a good idea i think i think for myself having a uh longer tour and a sort of deeper tour where i i meet people in the in the different states of the northeast i think that would be a good thing it would be very very useful for me because it allows me to understand with a bit more depth what the people of the region want so it's something that we're thinking about and we'll do um and that's discussion in progress right now okay so i'm sure all of us you know the you're saying is there going to be another bharaj jodo yatra please realize walking 4 000 kilometers is not like something you do you get up in the morning it's not an easy thing to do you know it it's hard so i'm sure all of us have the tendency is those are difficult things but but uh i don't know about the timing but walk from kanya kumari to kashmir allowed me to see india through a particular lens a particular framework right and i'm certain that the walk from east to west to west to east will allow me to see india from a different perspective in a different framework i think i think walking from south to north is completely different than walking from west to east or east to west it's a it's a it's a different paradigm it's a different way of thinking so i will have the opportunity if if we do it to see india from a completely different perspective so it's something that i'm quite keen to do let's hope that and you know you'll be surprised but you'll be surprised but actually it's a crazy thing but you know you meet people and you meet very interesting people they tell you stuff there's a lot of affection people are very loving you know you you you see you see it very differently than when you go in a flight or when you go in a car or when you you know it's a completely different world because there is suffering involved it opens the mind actually if you're if you're sitting and you're in pain you know you see you see all our ancient rishis and all sitting there or you see images of the buddha or you see images of Guru Nanak sitting there there's a reason because they're purposely putting themselves through stress they're putting themselves through pain they're putting themselves through disturbance and when you do that it opens your mind it allows you to see things that you never see before you walk i walk a couple thousand kilometers i'm telling you after you know on day three or day four i was saying seriously because i was like how how is this gonna happen how am i going to actually walk four thousand kilometers and then slowly slowly it unfolds it happens right so i mean you're you're from different spaces of work you're from different you know you're business people you're people who work in the NGO field that's how you should think about it take just take a challenge that you think you can never do and put yourself under stress and then you'll suddenly find that you will yourself start pulling out avenues that you'd never imagined it could happen and so for me it's a learning experience of course it's a political experience but it was much more a personal experience for me like my people wanted a political element to it i i was like i'm not interested in a political element because for me this is much more about it's like a labor of love it's not politics it's my country has given me so much has given me so much affection it's like repaying a debt for me okay i'm sure all of us have seen Rahul ji speaking at various occasions so i've come up with a small quiz for you and with this we'll end it okay so it's a personal quiz so you have to choose between the two i'll give you two options you have to choose between the two within 10 seconds there are no prizes for it but still you have to choose so so beginning so workout or netflix and chill workout indian cuisine or chinese both okay martial arts or scuba diving now see these are both but but if you were to say okay it's situational so if i'm if i'm working and you know in delhi and all then martial arts okay scuba diving is something that you would do you know you would have to go there so bharaj you're a beard or clean shaved either you know this is a this is the this is a problem that the congress always has with me which is that i really have not too concerned about you know beard and i am quite okay with yeah i'm okay with you know daddy i don't i'm not too attached to these things okay watching reels and social media reading a book reading a book okay godfather or the dark night you know that's a difficult one they're both they're both very very deep movies you know so i would go with both okay ice cream or golgappa ice cream okay if not a politician then who anything see i i i i don't see it like that politician is one frame of me right when i am when i'm talking to my nephew and his friends i'm a teacher right when i am in the kitchen i'm a cook so we all have many different frames right you are you are a journalist you're a father you're a son you might have certain skills that are as important to you as journalism but you will be seen with one lens right right you'll be seen with the journalist so i'm actually one of my lenses is politician and then i view my life as a journey right so i i like to learn and understand things on this journey okay next question is tricky you can choose anyone love of your life it can be a sport a person your mother your sister anyone i mean quite a few you can name one or two i mean my mother my sister my my little puppy these days he's uh you know and some of my friends yeah okay driving cars or riding bikes i i see them as the same thing okay so it's which is basically it's basically a focus okay cricket or football or anything else football okay messier ronaldo ronaldo okay though though though i think mess is actually a better footballer so now you're being politically correct no because i think ronaldo i like i like ronaldo's kindness okay so but if you if you were to ask me if i was running a football team who would i prefer i'd probably prefer messy okay so if cricket uh Virat Kohli or Rohit Sharma you know i mean either i'm not i'm not a huge cricket fan i know that's that's not a good thing to say but i'm not a huge cricket fan okay so baharat or india baharat sorry india that is baharat beauty with brains or just beauty would do brains with beauty okay sneakers or sandals sandals again again for different things you know if i'm running they're not they're not your comfort zone or sand i mean different different tools for different work okay kutta bhajama or t-shirt okay beach or mountains both okay so this brings me to the end of this conversation with rahul and thank you so much for being a patient audience and thank you rahul for being a part of the country of 2023 i know it's a personal favor that you have done to me and thank you really thank you so much no i think i think one of the reasons first of all i'd like to thank all of you for coming here but one of the reasons i i did come was because i think not enough space is given to the northeast in the national conversation and i feel that often i get the sense that the people of northeast feel that they should have much more participation that we should listen to them understand them understand their culture understand their languages so to me it was important that i gave a message it wasn't just a personal thing it was important that i gave a message that for us all parts of india no matter how big or small are important they all build help build india and we love and respect them all so thank you thank you very much thank you so much