 All right! Hey! We're here! We're live! Thank you everyone! I asked them to cheer and they were very obliging. Thank you for that. So yeah, we are live out there. Zoe brings bacon as in the chat room. So it's Silverblade. And there are already titles being submitted in the chat room. It's much to be very confusing to those of you on the livestream. We're like, they're not on yet. What are they talking about? Tom? We've taken? We've done pre-show, pre-pre-titles. Yes. Hello, 40 thieves in the chat room. So you made it in. That's good. And I can't stay in the chat because I'm on an iPad. And every time you change tabs, it dies. Oh yeah, I hate that. Boo! Multitasking my power consumption. Yeah, multi-tasking my power consumption. Right. So, I mean, the only bad news is that Sarah couldn't join us. Unavoidable circumstances. So she will not be on the show, but Roger is here, Will is here, Ian's here. And all of you guys are here. So we're going to have a wonderful show in about five minutes. Anything else we need to take care of before that? No? I'm doing it right now. What is going on? What exactly are you doing right now? You just asked me to start doing it four weeks ago. Oh, I actually do know what he's talking about, and it's not what any of us were thinking. It has to do with M-bed, E-M-B-E-D, of a YouTube video on a page. That's awesome. As we have about five minutes, Will has left. He's like, nope, nope, nope. He's taking care of it right now. So how have you been, Ian? Good. I feel like I've had a really good time. We've spent a lot of time together. Yeah, I know. This has been great. It's been really good fun. We had a wedding. We had some drinks. Ian, we're very happy. Yeah, we are. It was very special. You had fun? I did, yeah. In spite of the rain and the weather in general? No, we barely had any. I never got rained on once. There was a conversation about having to put a coat on and go inside, wasn't there? I was a little cold waiting to throw the confetti because it was noon. It was really cold. It was very chilly at that time. I didn't have anything but the suit coat. I had a shirt and pants. I didn't have an overcoat. That would explain the chilliness. Did you dance? Yes. I did one dance. Can I confirm that? Yeah, it was really good. It was good, wasn't it? Yeah, it was great. It was really fun. It was a lovely area. I'd only been west from London, so it was nice to go a different direction. It's a novelty to go anywhere where you can't get a taxi unless you tell them a week in advance. And they did. They showed up too. That was the other thing. I told them in advance that they were there. Yes, it's done. You okay? No, I was really grateful for the invite. Don't look at me. I'll introduce you someday. Actually, it was really weird. I went to France a few years ago and I was in the middle of a major French city and there was no Uber. I just had this realisation of how do you get anywhere without Uber? So I walked to a taxi stand with a bunch of cabs and there were three or four cabs parked on this taxi stand. And these three or four French guys were standing, smoking their gal wires. And I was like, hi, I really need to go to the look like a hypermarket. It's too much traffic right now. But I'll sit in the traffic. I need to go. Take too long for us. And I was like, oh, and you wonder why you're busy in your business. Did you book a week in advance? Yeah, clearly. All right. Well, Ian, I did not prepare you for this. So one last piece of business. Do you have access to our Google Doc? I do. Would you mind reading a couple of these? I don't mind at all. I have a really good memory of... I can't remember which one of the CNET podcasts it was. We did in Vegas. And I came along and I totally didn't know that was going to happen. And also, I didn't have any internet. You had a 4G thing and it just wasn't working. So now I'm like, no, my initials. Read this. Problems at CES Internet Shopping. No kidding. Well, just don't say I'm Sarah Lane. I won't. It's not in the script. What is in the script is the correct date and your names. And whatever Roger else decides to put in there between now and the time. All right. I'm ready. If you all are ready, shall we? We have one. Right here, a second. Motion carries. All right. Here we go. Three, two, one. The Daily Tech News Show is brought to you by people like me, not outside organizations. To learn more, go to dailytechnewshow.com. This is The Daily Tech News from Monday, October 9th, 2017. Live from London. I'm Tom Merritt. I'm Will Harris. And I'm Ian Morris. Our Glendale Studios. Roger Chang is in the house producing as well. How are you, Roger? I am fine. Things are normal in California. Sadly, Sarah Lane was supposed to join us remotely as well. But there's some wildfires going on in Northern California. And her mom lives in Northern California. Her mom's fine. The cats are fine. But she's helping her deal with that because there's been some evacuations up there. So Sarah's not with us today. She'll be back tomorrow, though, so do not worry. We'll start with a few tech things you should know. Nikkei Asian Review reported Sunday that the Sony Ibo will return with a new model incorporating AI sometime in the middle of 2018. Yay! That is more of a response than I thought. Sony Ibo is more loved than I've ever had in my life. Aw, that's not true. Apple has released iTunes 12.6.3 with support for iOS 11. Funny you thought that would exist already. This version is meant for enterprises that still need the version which contains the App Store that was removed for the most recent version of iTunes. Yeah, if you've been paying close attention, you're like, wait, that version number's not right. Yeah, so if you were one of the people there were several who wrote into the show were like, wait a minute, I use that App Store on my desktop. You'll be able to get that older version of iTunes. It's now back from Apple legally this way. Happy days. Hulu announced on Monday that it's ordering four new original e-sports series. Shows include a debate show called Player v Player, a documentary series including following team immortals called Boot Camp and a chat show called Defining Moments and a recap show called ESL Replay. You can tell I'm really deep into e-sports, can't you, from the way I read that? Yeah, so Facebook got up all of ESL's actual event streaming but Hulu's gonna get the chat shows basically about it. Yeah, I'm curious if that will pay off for that. Here's some more top stories. Washington Post reported Monday that Google has discovered the Russian organization spent less than $100,000 on ads that ran on YouTube, Gmail and other Google properties. Google officials are expected to testify publicly before both the House and Senate Intelligence Committees on November 1st alongside Facebook and Twitter about Russian attempts to use their platforms to influence the US election. So this is similar to the Facebook and Twitter stories we've been seeing where unnamed organizations and the implication is that they're somehow government connected but it's never very clear how or who they are spending relatively low amounts of money to run ads that are definitely trying to sway people's opinions. I'm curious how you guys feel about this, this not being your election from outside the fence, because inside the fence it's a very partisan feeling about this stuff. Well, we might have done the same for Brexit, maybe. I mean, there was some discussion about that, whether or not it's true who knows. I'm just impressed Tom that $100,000 doesn't count as very much money to you. It counts as a lot of money for me. I also don't spend anything on advertising but a $100,000 ad campaign, I mean you talk about if you really want to sell something or sway opinion, you have to spend a lot more than $100,000. Well, on that note, Facebook security chief officer Alex Stamos went on a tweet storm on Sunday in response to fake news and election meddling accusations. Stamos said he's seen criticisms driven by stereotypes and straw men and wrote, nobody of substance at the big companies thinks of algorithms as neutral, nobody is not aware of the risks, which sounds really quite well in. Facebook has informed advertisers that going forward at the target politics, religion, ethnicity or social issues will have to be manually approved. So I get where Stamos is coming from because a lot of people are delaying, I mean, basically he's feeding the trolls. He's reacting to the people who are like, you guys don't care. You're not doing enough. And I think Facebook honestly is trying to do things and I don't think the AI or algorithms were going to solve all of this stuff, but how do you guys feel? Well, it is manually approving it going to really solve anything unless you know exactly where the money has come from. You can't really police it, can you? Well, there's something to the fact that an algorithm will make mistakes. And I think what Stamos is trying to say is we knew the algorithm would make mistakes, but we figured the mistakes would be so rare that cleaning up after them would not cause as much of a controversy as this is. But if you have a person doing it, even if it still caused a mistake, people accept it more because they're like, ah, so did you fire those people or who were those people and why didn't they do a better job? It's just when you point to the algorithm, there's a certain appearance of abdication of responsibility. But her emails! Yeah, I mean, it's all a very difficult position to be in because, as I've said on the show multiple times, nobody's starting with the evidence of the effect. And when I say that, I wrote a whole column about it last week, I'm not saying there isn't an effect, but you need to start with like, well, what did $100,000 get then? What effect did it have? Then we can work backwards and say, OK, now that we know that it did that, how do we stop that, the bad effects of that? And could you do anything about what the results that come from it? Like, I mean, you can't untrump Trump, can you? Well, I'm not convinced that this is not the thing that changed the algorithm. Almost certainly not. Well, tweeting Sunday, bad news everybody, Microsoft Windows lead Joe Belafouri told us that Windows Phone is not very well. Building new hardware features are not the focus, Belafouri said. The company will continue to support the platform with bug fixes and security updates. And Belafouri is using Android. Yeah, and Bill Gates is too. Yeah, I'm actually genuinely sad for one reason, and I think you need three good operators to really give some diversity. I mean, you know, you might love Apple, you might love Android phones, but it's always good to have another party. Well, and Blackberry is using Android now. Yeah, exactly. So they're actually on a resurgence, mostly because of the security software, not because of phones, but even so, they're Android. Nokia, Android. Everyone knows someone who loves Blackberry. Yeah, it's a Windows Mac world. That's like saying everybody knows an idiot. Is it though? I know several. I also think it's funny that this is Microsoft Windows head Joe Belafouri, according to the headlines, declaring Windows Phone finally dead, probably the 12th, 13th time I've seen that headline, and Belafouri said, it's not our focus. Like, they still aren't saying that's it, folks. It's over. But partly because, one, they want to do security updates. They don't want to abandon the people that are out there still using these phones because that would cause them a firestorm, even if it's a small number of people. But it's kind of the same way that, like, competing in the 100-meter Olympics is not my focus for the next 18 months. Right. It wasn't really an option to start with. Well, Windows Phone was an option. Was it? Yeah, the thing is as well that they've come to the point now where there are, you can almost see where they were going with it. Like, you, as an example, Windows Store apps now can run on Xbox, Windows, and Phone. Right. That's kind of a cool ecosystem idea. They're doing better as a tablet company. Yeah. Then they ever did as a phone. I don't understand why. No, I mean, I do understand why. I just wish it wasn't the case. It feels like Sachin Adela is basically saying there's just no winning on that platform. Let's cut our losses, move to AI, become the software that runs on these things. Because, you know, let's get Office on there. Let's get Cortana on there. Maybe I shouldn't have wasted all that money on Nokia. Oh, it's like whites. I know that what they're doing. Sachin Adela would probably be like, it wasn't me that wasted that money. Yeah, wow. Indeed. Did we have any Windows Phone users in the in the audience? We've got one. Yes. All right. Brave. Good man. Yeah. How many of you were not brave enough to raise your hand? Commiserations. Commiserations. Do you still use it? You would be very upset if they just said, we're not even providing security updates. We're done. Yeah, props up a chair. Benchmarking company Futuremark collected 100,000 benchmark results for seven different iPhone models across three versions of iOS to create performance comparisons. This was done particularly to address the question that we've all had of, did Apple actually slow down my old phone to make me want to buy a new phone? And it turns out they did not find any evidence of that. Futuremark found the GPU and CPU performance remain generally consistent across iOS updates, a few dips, but also a few rises, but generally flat and even across. Devices feeling slower as they get older are likely caused by the software you run on the operating system targeting the newer models. So everyone updates their apps to run on the brand new model and those apps run a little slower. Some of the features in iOS that are new are optimized for the newer models and run a little slower, but the operating system itself isn't slowed down. Does that make you feel any better? I think what's happening is people look at their phone and they go, I want a new phone now. This is slow. Yeah, that's probably part of it, right? There's a psychological aspect. Yeah, for sure. Will, does it bother you? I'm one of those absolute idiots that upgrades the latest thing. You don't even notice. I wouldn't even notice. My old one's in a landslide somewhere. So did you go to the 8 or are you waiting for the 10? Oh, I'm getting both. So you went to the 8 to get you through to the 10? Yeah. What are you going to do with your 8 after you get the 10? Crush it. Prop of a table. You'll put it next to his windows. Yeah. Give it to Joey Belfi. You need an iOS phone, Joey. You've got to test Office on something. On that note, the US Federal Commission's communication. Close. Try again. The US Federal Communications Commission granted Alphabet an experimental license to operate its Project Loon Internet Service in Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands. Project Loon, if you are still catching up, uses helium balloons to deliver LTE and can help the island regain some connectivity lost during the recent hurricanes. Alphabet is going to partner with local carriers like Telefonica. Meanwhile, Puerto Rico's governor, Ricardo Rosello. Good Lord, say that quickly. Puerto Rico's governor, Ricardo Rosello, has had talks with Elon Musk about sending batteries to Puerto Rico in conjunction with solar panels to help restore the power grid. German microgrid company Sonnen is also shipping batteries to Puerto Rico. Thank goodness for pop filters. Because that is a lot of consonants. It's a lot of Puerto Rico. This is interesting. I think it could have some knock-on effects for Google that they are getting the chance to try this in unforeseen circumstances for a good reason, right? To help restore the Internet. But it's going to put the system to the test, which has been tested in very controlled circumstances in other parts of the world. I was going to ask. Like Looney is someone who is in set. In Canada it stands for a dollar coin. Looney over here is someone who is a lunatic. The idea of floating LTE and helium balloons over a hurricane-savaged island, like sound lunatic. I love the fact that it's called Project Loon. It does what it says on the tin. I wrote a story not long ago about the idea of Nokia using drones to do the same thing. It's not sustainable for a long time. In Northern California now you would have drones in the air if the cell towers went down to help out. It's quite cool. I'm curious what other companies we don't realize are pitching into help. During Hurricane Katrina there was an open source group went down and did mesh networking. I wonder if anybody has been able to get over there and do something like that. I sense that Elon Musk is more about talking about this than necessarily running to help. The guy senses a good PR opportunity. I do think he means it. I don't think anything that he's lying about anything he's saying. The fact that Sonan is like, oh no, we've already been sending things to emergency shelters and stuff like that, that's when you're really pitching in. I think Google was wanting to do this earlier. It just takes a while for them to get the permits and everything. I think there are very few places where if you're Elon Musk you can rebuild a power grid from scratch. He's got the opportunity to say okay, we'll come in. Here's a boatload of cash. We can build your power grid from scratch and prove the actual point. He was serious about Australia. Halfway through Australia right now to help rebuild their power grid. This is an excellent opportunity. I know that one of the reasons Google is doing this is because it is a U.S. territory so it makes it easier for them to get permits. They're also planning on doing it for the U.S. Virgin Islands, but the other islands in the Caribbean need help as well. I wish it was easier for them to be able to pitch in and do that as well. That, my friends, is a look at the top stories. Thanks to everybody who supports us on the subreddit at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com. You can submit stories and vote on there as well as facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech groups. I wanted to ask you guys because you're both from the U.K. and we're in the U.K. with a bunch of presumably mostly U.K. residents here with a few exceptions. We got some. No Europeans. We have an Alabama. We have a couple of Europeans. You're all Europeans right now. For now. But one of the things I get a lot of and I try to work against it is everything is U.S. bias. Coming out of podcasting, coming out of tech journalism because CNET, you know, the Verge, all these places are located in San Francisco or New York. All the big Silicon Valley companies dominate the news cycle, Google, Apple, Facebook, etc. They're all U.S. companies. How bad do you think that is and why do you think it is? So can I just jump in and start with a topic that we were actually discussing in the first place. Like I'm sure many of the live audience here in London, England. Thank you. I listened to a lot of the shows that you were on, whether it's DTNS, whether it's cord killers. And I find that there are entire segments of discussion that are completely irrelevant because it's just not the same issue. So for example, Star Trek Discovery is obviously the hot new TV series which is causing all sorts of trouble. I listened to what is CBS All Access, who's going to use it, $6 a month, but what's on CBS All Access? Well, I only want it for Star Trek, etc. CBS All Access not only doesn't exist over here, but over here Star Trek Discovery is a Netflix original. So you can just open up your Netflix and watch it like normal. Everywhere outside of the U.S. So every piece of discussion about CBS All Access that revolves around Star Trek is utterly irrelevant. Now I would say that if CBS All Access was similar to another effort elsewhere that it would be more interesting because you would say, well, CBS All Access doesn't matter to me, but there's this other channel that might do that. But I don't think there's a parallel. The problem is that there's nothing that's got such a headline series as Star Trek. Like Star Trek is so universal. And the fact that it's on this one really weird random platform in the states and yet it's on just Netflix everywhere else is a really interesting point and it's a completely it's one of those things that skews discussion in a way that I think a lot of Americans don't quite grasp. Well, and also cord cutting itself is different here. You have preview. You have Sky providing a cord cutting option for years well before we ever had one. And so the idea of, let's say Channel 4 or ITV just saying one day we're taking one of our top stories. Now, let's say that Naby's still on the air and it's all new episodes are only going to be available on this for pay. It's unthinkable, right? Well, maybe. I mean, those sort of things do happen. But I mean, one of the clear examples was like for I've lost my complete train of thought there. Someone else go. Sorry. I think the other thing that I really find interesting watching is the complete you guys talk a lot about the fact that there's no competition for internet in very different states. It is like, if I live in X state, I can only get Comcast or if I live in Y state, I can only get AT&T. And I think that's something else that we really struggle with because not only are there like basically everywhere you live pretty much in England, you can get a variety of different telco providers. But there are now so many options for getting wireless as well. So I've lived in London the last four or five years, but where I lived previously in Oxfordshire, the best way for me to get broadband connectivity was wireless 4G. And I could get wireless 4G faster than I could get DSL or cable just because I guess we were in a smaller place, right? And I think there are so many discussions over net neutrality is a huge one, provision of internet access to different states that's a huge one that just don't exist outside of America. And I think if you talk to even more, if you talk to Patrick and talk about France, that's an entirely different situation again. Interestingly, Patrick's always very interested in the net neutrality discussions because he's worried about the precedence they could set. So it's all about what happens in America slowly filters over here as opposed to this is actually happening over here at the moment. The point I was going to make which follows on from what you were saying was we don't have anything like cable card. So one of the things that I've always wanted to have was a way for people to get Sky or Virgin without having to have their box because I always thought it would be better if you could just get a card and you're not depriving them of any money all you're doing is giving people a way around their service. But because they all want to control that kind of stuff, they don't want to do it. And there's no, you know, the features are FCC. I have shown literally no interest in regulating that market. And I think that's a fascinating aspect on that note of the Xbox One. So as everyone remember when the Xbox One was first launched a few years ago, and the entirety of the sort of push for it was this is going to be your one box that goes under your TV and it includes cable and you can pipe all your TV services through it and etc. And of course none of it worked with anything outside of the US. There was no ability to pipe in Sky. You could not pipe in any cable companies in the US. No. The only cable companies that worked with it were outside the US. So it was totally bonkers. Yeah. So we were able to, you could have it control your box was the best you could get. So we actually had it through it. We had it over the air TV. I mean, that's never going to happen because my girlfriend controls the box in my house anyways. There's no idea that the idea that was going to get over it. Yeah, but even then like you would have to set up an infrared repeater and it was just it was just a mess. And I tell you what as well, I think that because the cord cutting things become so big, if you watch what Plex are doing now you know, they they're slowly going after TV. So they've just launched this news proposition thing that they're going for which gives you access to you know, news customized news. Yeah, that suits your tastes and then they've got this tuner thing where you can just plug in a certain tuner and I they sent me one to try and it's it's really good. It's like a really nice service and free over the air. You know, America's got reasonably good over the air. It makes a lot of sense. I can see why cable companies are worried. So let me tip it on its head and say Tom as a citizen of the States United what do you look outside and say, oh Cracky, I wish we had that. Well, some of it is competition in broadband. We've touched on that. A lot of it is just you know, there is TV programming that I look at and say, you know, I can't wait for that to come here. I wish it was easier to get not just taking a little trip over the seas. I don't want to have to break anyone's license agreements or pretend to be Nate Langston to watch. That's just not right. But yeah, I don't know outside of those sorts of things. If there's anything else that I'm looking at craving any more so than I look at any other region that gets a service first. So there's Singapore, you can get an autonomous taxi right now. That's pretty crazy. I would like to be able to do that and they're going to be able to do that in Arizona soon but I'm not in Arizona either. What about I was going to finance. I've had a few conversations with American banks with people who use American banks and they tell me that it's a pretty archaic system and it's very difficult to get modern apps. Whereas we've got some good financial stuff happening with banks that offer really good app interfaces. Monzo is this, I think it's a London based thing. I can't think of anything from my bank. I mean, I can deposit a check by scanning it and stuff like that. Pretty good. You still have checks in America? Yeah, it's weird. I mean, checks happen. Is that how you pay your guys with checks? No, no. I pay everyone under the, I mean with PayPal. I know it's funny it's older there are a few people who support DTNS Wait, are you being checksist right now? Yes. I'm going to wrap up in just a couple of cases. I'm going to show my face and stop presenting. Landlord steak That's one of my examples too, yeah. Oftentimes for certain services that don't take credit cards a check for a large, like no one's going to carry $300, $400 on them. It's easier just to write a check and if it's from a well-known bank people take it. Everyone in the audience here is looking at you like you're a mentalist right now. $300 $300 I'll pay a check. What? Just get some tenors. No, that's mad. I think what's really interesting is that having just come out of Blade Runner 2049 yesterday what's interesting is that whereas we used to look at places like Japan for leadership in this kind of area we don't really see a lot coming out of there right now. If you look at fantastic retro brands They've got some good robotics. Yeah, they've got an eye, both. I think part of this is there's a bit of a pepper. You don't look at Sony as being the biggest, your best TV manufacturer in the world. But you do look at Nintendo and Sony for gaming. Yeah, but presumably with a lot of normal tech because it's South Korea now. It's manufactured, it's designed and I think tech is more worldwide than it's ever been. The biggest right now is Huawei. Huawei, Alibaba, Baidu some of the biggest companies in the world. And that brings me to the last question I wanted to hit on, which is we talked a lot about examples like Dendritrality where it's use cases, user oriented stuff. What about the fact that Google, Facebook, Apple, Amazon dominate? Does that bother you guys? So I think it's interesting from there's a couple of different ways that it's interesting. One is that the European Commission is much, much more pro-regulatory than the US. So when you see major changes happening a lot of the time to US companies, it's because they've been prompted by EU sanctions. So, you know, when Microsoft opened up Windows to other browsers, that was mostly because of that. Didn't do it in the US. If you look at what Google's been forced to do with things like the right to be forgotten has all come out of the UK. I think the interesting knock-on effect that it has actually coming from as someone who's running a startup right now, is that it creates a very different startup ecosystem. So if you look at the US, there are so, you know, hundreds of companies in the US that have had multi-billion dollar exits, whether they float it on the stock market or sold to Google or whoever. That creates an entire tier of extremely wealthy tens of million pairs, right, which creates an entire community of investors that then invest in the next generation of technology. If you look at the number of extremely large exits in the UK and the EU there are far fewer of them for, you can debate all the reasons of that, that is. But that means that there's a much, much smaller community of investors which means there's a much, much smaller cadre of startups coming through, which means that there is therefore it's, it's, what's the opposite of a virtuous circle, a vicious cycle. An invertuous circle. An invertuous circle. So in the US you have multi-billion dollar exits that begat lots of angel investors who then invest in big companies which then become multi-billion dollar exits because we haven't had really a Google or a Facebook or somebody that huge, I mean apart from Spotify and Skype with the two big exceptions. What's one? Yeah, arm. But of course arms go mostly to Japan, we haven't had quite the same level of exits which doesn't create the same level of ecosystem so there's less investment in the startups of tomorrow which I think is a really big difference between the US and the UK. Also is there a cultural thing in that people who exit in this country take the money and then they just don't do anything whereas in America it's, I mean the valley is full of people who are, you know, they get some money, they want to invest in other things to make more money. Well British people they really like talking about money which I think is the fundamental problem. It's just a bit rude, isn't it? How much do you tell your startup for? Oh, if you quit. Going back to my great house in the country and I'm not going to talk about it. Yeah, exactly. Alright, let's get to our messages of the day. Ron Reiman Jr. writes in response to Mike's question last week about pacemakers. I don't know if you caught that but Mike was asking like, hey how do I find out the best pacemaker to talk to my doctor about? Ron says, I work at Medtronic and one of the three major cardiac active implantable medical device manufacturers so there we have a new acronym AIMD all three of which are primarily located in Minneapolis, St. Paul. He says I'm not aware of a website that does direct comparisons of pacemakers from the manufacturers around the world I'm going to get on much of the marketing material is targeted at cardiologists but pacemakers are very mature device family and their technologies are well developed. Mike should be engaged with his cardiologist during the device selection process this entertains you quite a bit, doesn't it? I don't want to have Joe Belfi or he feels bad. Some cardiologists have preference by manufacturer some selection can be driven by clinic or hospital contract and insurance reimbursement pacemakers and electrical leads are expensive devices but Mike can look at the three pacemakers we sell, of course the other two major US device manufacturers are Boston Scientific and St. Jude and they have similar patient information on their websites. Of course I can't give medical advice but if he would like the other information I can get him in touch with a local field engineer. But yeah, I mean you have to talk to your doctor about it but that's a good start is to go to Boston Scientific St. Jude and he works for Medtronic and you can start looking around there but I mean I'm kidding aside if you need a pacemaker and you're like hey I know there's some cool features with these things now I don't want to you know I'm really concerned about pacemaker neutrality am I going to have a fast lane did you not hear about the Bluetooth vulnerability with pacemakers? Yeah that's not a joke yeah I mean we have a comparison site called compare the market right it's the advert is a meerkat it's compare the meerkat and so I can just imagine being flogged a pacemaker by a meerkat that would be amazing consult your cardiologist and then Duncan wrote in to recommend twofactorauth.org which we talked about last week as well if you want to find out which sites offer twofactor authentication he also uses follow that page at followthatpage.com which is a free service that monitors up to 20 sites a day for you of any changes and notifies you when there's a change to the site so he uses that to go to twofactorauth.org to find out who offers twofactorauth and then any of the sites he wants twofactor authentication from he then signs up on follow that page to see when they offer it so he gets an email that notifies him that that way if you're worried about not having twofactor authentication on a site and you want to know as soon as they get it you can sign up for that and he says thanks for the show I'm a proud patron yes thank you lots of patrons in the audience we all know that tonight maybe you don't we were talking about it really tonight is the premiere of the new Last Jedi trailer Star Wars The Last Jedi DTS resident artist Len Peralta is creating another year-end poster like he did one a couple years ago on Force Awakens he did a different one last year this year he's commemorating The Last Jedi and another year of Daily Tech News show featuring myself, Roger and Sarah so Sarah as Ray myself as Luke and Roger as Kylo Ren can I be Yoda? we'll stick a Yoda there as well you can be a part of the poster by adding your name to the credits if you go to lemperaltostore.com you can purchase the poster get your name in the credits he only has 30 slots for that so if you want that you should probably get that done right away and not only do you get your name in the credits but you'll get 11 by 17 poster of the print signed by Len so hurry on over to lemperaltostore.com and do you and become a part of DTNS history that's amazing the markup that he's made of it over at lemperaltostore.com alone is worth just going and taking a look at Roger you've never looked more ominous I think Tom looks like Bajer in that one as well I'm not convinced that you're not being replaced you can pretend it's Patrick Bajer if that makes you more comfortable with the poster thank you everybody for joining us here first of all big thanks to Ian Morris thank you techpodcast.uk I believe so yes is the place to find text message anything to tell folks about it even though Nate got married you guys are still pumping out episodes we are indeed we had a break we stopped the break and we're going to carry on hopefully for a long time we've been reinvigorated by our rest and by the wonderful support that we've had it's a real game changer do you remember what's on this week's episode? this week coming is a special iPhone and Apple Watch review oh dear how amateur of me Nate would have cut that out but this is live so check that out techpodcast.uk I always want to stick with the code got it Will thank you so much for putting this together well thank you very much for coming over it's been an absolute pleasure to have you it's been a pleasure to be here let folks know a little bit about what you're doing here so that they understand why you're able to pull this off because you don't own the building or anything right? 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I'll email address his feedback at dailytechnewshow.com we're live Monday through Friday 4.30pm Eastern 20 30 UTC at alphagingsradio.com and DiamondClub.tv our website is DailyTechnewShow.com I'll be out playing tomorrow but Sarah Lane will be here with Patrick Beja they'll talk to you then this show is part of the Frogpants Network Roger Chang Roger what's the show you guys are going to be what are we going to call this let's see what our options are alright we have what happens to America doesn't stay in America but her emails trumping trump embedded in London Puerto Rico gets Looney how about thanks to Will Harris and Entail.cm I wouldn't want to embarrass you I wouldn't want to embarrass you you sweet heart Tom checks into London is the checkest great Tom is done English show your title thanks for the pizza you can go to showbot.tv and see all of these yourself now is this a democracy it is a constitutional monarchy I will take advice from our parliament I think what you call it has been never dictated more of that I guess I'm definitely not doing a political headline Windows phone is not very well no it's just pining for the fields I suppose that is a good British understatement it's gone to me it's maker Windows phone is pressed with merit alphabet goes Looney with FCC yeah which one you knew that was going keep colony bacon that's some British spelling federal commissions communication I was so determined to get that right FCC I know I was once again stretching beyond my limits ask your AIMD if pacemakers are right for you I like that Puerto Rico gets Looney isn't that bad yeah oh DTN US no that doesn't work that should be DTN UK yeah oh DTN Simples as well that's good but no one would get that I didn't even just get it it won't work at all but for that reason it should win yeah oh my god that's amazing keep colony bacon I quite like and I have some Zoe brought bacon I like the one from Roger and I appreciate it I'm doing it right now oh no my flag fell oh no it's over there the flags that we had on our mics our mic flags literally D&G Roger do you have a favorite uh can I be Yoda as click kind of hard to say nothing really nothing any of you in the audience have a favorite title checks in spelled properly quite right Zoe brought bacon submitted by Zoe Briggs Bacon jeez two two British in the top pretending to make likes I love it chaos of podcasters nice three guys in a plant well funny funny funny that's me too far aside from one plant Windows Phone is not very well Tom checks into London and D&G symbols it's got to be D&G symbols that is going to fall so dismally flat what How many for Tom Checks into London? Voice vote, please. No! Windows phone is not very well. Way! Couldn't hear over Will. DNT simples. Way! It's Tom Checks in London. Tom Checks into London, yeah. All right, we have a title. All right. Roger's like, well, thank God for that. That took a long time. How many minutes? All right. And Roger, the... You should be able to see Roger in DTNS2, the output leveled version of the way. Tell me if you do. Wait, who are you talking to? Leveled it to Roger. Have you just leveled it already? Yeah. Jeez, Louise. I usually just publish it, but I'm making Roger do that so I can hang out a little more. Wait, where did you stick it in the... Sorry, late changer show time. So where did you stick it? No, in the Dropbox, where... Change the name? Stick it right in the Dropbox. I'm going to make it... Go ahead and make the MP3. You'll still need to do the ID3 tags. Anybody want to see it output? There we go, look at that. That is nicely levelated. See all the P's in the middle for you. That's me failing to say Prithu Riku's governor, governor of Google... That's me completely. Federal, what is it? Federal, what is it? Federal Communication Commission. What does it say? Federal Communication and Cock Ups. That would have been a good time. It's time to pass it to Roger. Yes. One, two, three, four. Exclamation point for security. I'm exporting the MP3, Roger. Cool, are you putting the... Which DTNS... I have the folder open. Are you sticking under... Yeah, I'm going to put it in the DTNS folder. So just in the root of that folder. Yeah, just... So whilst... Are we in crochet recording? Yeah, we are. Can I do a little show of hands to people? Who here is on iOS? Android. Okay, if you're on iOS... Hi, Zen. Who here uses the default iOS podcast app? Ooh. Okay, can people shout what you use? Overcast. Downcast. Pocketcast. Okay, Android. What do people use? Shout. Overwhelmingly. There's nothing else on Android. There's loads apparently. Because I was like, why is there no podcasting app on this thing? There's a new one called Entrail. Entrail, get the inside scoop. Ooh! That's it. And that's why they pay him those big Patreon bucks. You all pay me a dollar a month. What are you going to sell that idea for, to Will? I think I probably signed something to get in here. Ball IP. Unfortunately, you sold it to the Daily Mail. The weekly standard. That's excellent. And how many people here actually produce their own podcast? Ooh, a solid one. What do you produce, sir? It's supposed to be weekly, but it's like monthly. What is it called? Free promo? Ah, don't. The new podcast, ah, don't. It's a killer. Never turned down free publicity. Sin Amazing podcast. Sin Amazing podcast. Ian Morris is on text message. Excellent. You're going to make a big buy for us, offer us a big exit. I'm going to get a big check. It's going to be the big check. It's going to be a novelty science check. I would love that. And also, it's not my show, it's Nate. You have to do the negotiating with him. I can bribe you. I don't have any equity, I don't think. I haven't discussed that with Nate. I wouldn't really raise it on the air. Nate, are you listening? What do I own? Nate is on his honeymoon. He's doing far more important things. Stargazing. Stargazing in Wales. Well, he's definitely on it. He's not because it's Wales and it's bound to be raining. He said he would be on it. I am Welsh, so I can say that. He said he would be watching. So, hi, Nate. What do I own? I don't know what Nate's why. Hi, Kate. Roger, I know what I was going to ask. The MP3, which is the best film for you of the two most recent Star Wars, are you a Rogue One man? I said Rogue One was Awakens. So, I like Force Awakens because it's a cute hand solo. And it's a shot-to-shot remake of A New Hope. Rogue One I love because it's a different set of people so that ending is a total twist I didn't see coming. But, what annoys me is the same thing. I know you guys watch Cord Killers with Brian Brushwood and some guy called Tomer. So, Brian's got this theory that he really wants to see a movie in the Star Wars universe that isn't about the original trilogy. Like, it's not Darth Vader and it's not... And the reason, like, I love, love, love Rogue One, is that I wish it didn't have Vader and Grand Moff Tarkin. I wish it was just... What I want from those Star Wars anthology movies, I want the equivalent of the old books that are like Star Wars stories in the universe but completely unrelated to the main trilogy. The fact that they made Rogue One more of the main trilogy kind of just bums me out. Does it? That's interesting. I mean, I love Rogue One. I do think it's the better one. I think it's a more interesting... It's definitely a more interesting premise. I'm really excited to see if The Last Jedi takes us in a new direction. So, OK, then going forward, what are you more excited about? The Last Jedi or the Ham film? Oh, Han Solo, I think it's going to be a dirty mess. It's not looking good for it. It's going to be... Or I can think about it when I think of the Han Solo movie directed by Ron Howard. You know, I keep thinking about a rested development star narration where it's like, I think this is going to be a great idea. It wasn't. Yeah, that would be quite good. Never tell me the odds. They told him the odds. Parsec was actually a measure of distance. And then just drove wheels quietly out of the background. There's going to be a Meta-chlorians gag or something like that. It's going to be awful. I had a really, really, really embarrassing moment actually a couple of months ago where we were talking about, Baby Driver. Which I still haven't seen much of my annoyance. So Baby Driver stars Ansel Elgort. And Han Solo is played by Alden Ehrenreich. And I was absolutely convinced they were the same person. I couldn't remember and they were like, Baby Driver, oh yeah, that's the guy that's played Han Solo. No, no, that's Ansel Elgort. No, you're thinking of Alden Ehrenreich. And I'm like, what? And I lost about a hundred quid. On the basis that I was so convinced at what I was talking in the morning that it was Alden Ehrenreich that was both Baby Driver and Han Solo. And it turns out that one of them is Ansel Elgort and one of them is Alden Ehrenreich. I still don't know which one. IMDb app. IMDb. If only there was some sort of always-on device that I carried with me that had these answers. You mean an interconnected network of networks? Yeah. Thought. It's uploaded. Wow! Actually, I thought that in the day, because I was walking past... I'd gone back home to my parents and I was walking past my old high school. I remember, I was walking past my math class and I just remembered my math teacher just complaining at me when I was using a calculator. You won't always have a calculator with you! Do it in your head! I was like, what class? I was like, screw you math teacher! I always got a calculator! Yep. So the podcast is published if anyone wants to download it. There's a link on your app. Get into your podcast up of choice. You can tell Alden Ehrenreich. Yeah, this might have even been a little slower. It all depends. The bandwidth there is really good. So this is about right. On the... More like net positivity, am I right? Oh, I'm on T-Mobile. Which is my actual provider. T-Mobile. Mobile. So I've been on three. And... E, I've been on E. Everything, everywhere. Everything, everywhere. It's the conglomerate of T-Mobile and Orange and Voyager Terrible. But I get T-Mobile too. Yeah, that's interesting that you get that. Because basically they shut... Wait, BT owns E! I thought BT owned O2. I don't know why you'd still get it. Where's the... Yeah, one that's based in the UK. Or some sort of US rubbish. Text message. What a great plug. Well, we're going to end the broadcast. So thanks everybody for watching. Say goodbye, folks. Oh, you know what? Before we end the broadcast... Can you read it now? God save our gracious queen. Go to... TLS... God save...