 for a second because now CAST just got started and we wanna have a taped version of this. So this meeting is to address the SA Tomorrow regional, or the sub area plans, and to talk about your neighborhood plans and how you can prepare for your participation in this. And I was just going over the people that participated in the midtown planning team. Lou Fox was also there, outside of representative. Tokenhill Business Association was there also and the Peace and Justice Center was represented by Gretz Yellow. So it's a diverse group. Your group will be different depending on what's in the area that you're going to be talking about. We had, and we had also represented from Whitting, Museum, the Executive Director of Whitting, and a big part of Maniki Park, or excuse not Maniki Park of the area for us is that big park over there. So we had a representative from the Brackenridge Conservancy also was on the team. Questions on the membership? Membership. Going to go on. So those were on that dark purple. Now, sub area plans are based on these categories. There's times during, and as a member of the team and I always shared it with the board, I represented, and that's, you have to remember when you're representing somebody, you've got to keep them informed. And so I would always share documentation I received from the city with my board, with the Maniki Park Board. And these were the categories that we would see pop up at various times. We'd be talking about jobs and economic development. These are the cogent areas that are in the comprehensive plan. Talked about transportation. We'll come back to that in a minute. Parks and Open Space, we looked at the community health and wellness because that's the sustainability of the city is based on, in part on that. Land use and land use is just now, we're just getting to that part of the comprehensive plan. Garrett's been having, we've been very fortunate in the meeting programmer for us. Garrett Phillips has been very available to the whole of Maniki Park. He shows up, he showed up every other month usually to give an update from his perspective and for the last month's meeting and this meeting, he's participating in our neighborhood organization meeting because we're breaking into small discussion groups and coming back with, we're talking about an action plan in action plan, which is the last part of the comprehensive plan for the sub area. So we're working on the action plan right now and we've been discussing land use. Land use has caused some concern because land use is the overlay for zoning and we'll talk about it later in the meeting. There is a meeting on Wednesday of the conference of plan committee and one of our colleagues noticed that one of the topics is land use and a discussion which we can't see yet that it's not available for us to see what is going to be talked about specifically but they're going to be talking about what we're using in the sub plan and we'll be doing that on Tuesday night and then on Wednesday night, or Wednesday in the afternoon we'll be looking at what they're presenting to the city council people on the committee. Next, I want to talk about who's coming up next, who's going to be receiving invitations, maybe, I mean. I'll go next to her. Just push the space button. I'll go back to the map. Yeah, this is a different map that the dark areas, excuse me, not the dark areas, the two lighter areas are in the east. If you push the space bar again, this will give us the participants that the city had planned to invite for the next sub regional planning. East community area, southeast, that includes Highland, if I remember right. Fort San Antonio, then out north and northeast, we're at 410 and come together in that business hub out there and then on the south side, Texas A&M, regional center and that area to the south. Mr. Pace, can I ask you on the previous slide, will Midtown, as always confused me, what is Midtown? What are they including as Midtown? We're the first phase. What neighborhoods? Midtown, the neighborhoods that were included were Tobin Hill, Oss, Westport Alliance, Five Points and the Mannequins Park. And those were the neighborhood organizations. Then you have, like I said, Wrecking Beach Park because that's a big part of it. Thank you. Okay. And there was someone from the Tobin Hill business because that's the Pearl, down on South Broadway, across from Westport, that area was included. And so, each of those are gonna be different than we have and I believe the neighborhoods own mixture will impact how you deal with the city on this and how you're organized. I think, okay, I'll be proud of Mannequins Park. We're well organized, I think. We've been organized for a long time. We have a history. And the board last year, we have one of the other board members here, Steve's here. We worked well together. We had seven or eight of us that were a team and worked together. And that's gonna be important as you come up. Make that team, get somebody to help you. You don't know everything. But Chase doesn't know everything. So I need to take things that we take back like when we did the objectives, took the list back to the board. This is what they're suggesting. What do you wanna do? And I had them work on it. We came up with what we collectively came up with for and gave that to Garrett and we talked about it at the one meeting. We also, when we were talking about one of the topics was housing, when we were talking about housing, Steve led us and drew up a paper, a white paper for the city from Mannequins Park on affordable housing. And I presented that to the Housing Commission, I mean to the Housing Task Force at one of their first meetings. And then also made sure every city council person had a copy of it and the mayor also. So you've got to take a stand. If you wanna be represented in what comes out for the final plan, you have to participate. You have to be there and make your, some of my colleagues on the committee were very reticent and talked rarely when we asked for consensus. And that's a good point to remember. We operate in these teams by consensus. Not by, we don't, he doesn't go around and count votes or anything. How do you all feel? And I think the danger for all of us, all of us, and I'm including myself there, you don't wanna get down in the weeds. The comprehensive plan is up here at 20,000 feet looking at San Antonio. And whatever might be decided, it's a plan, it's a guide for the city, for the future. And we're very glad we have that because business people wanna come here. They wanna see what the city's gonna be like in the future. Is it gonna help them to come here? But too quickly sometimes you might drill down and be in the weeds and we can't get there. Because you've got, well, Tobin Hill's different than Manatee Park. Westport's a lot different. Everybody's different. And then the issues for the educational institutions are different than they are for the neighborhoods. Now where we did see some collegiality, when you start talking about the quarter plan and the quarter plan talks about transportation and how we're going to get into and out and around the city. The bus, whatever. Mary Nuremberg in the last couple of weeks has put together a task force to deal with that again. I didn't call it a task force committee. And he's had recently in the last couple of days a group he's pulled together to encourage 70,000 jobs in the next two years. The whole reason for this is the phenomenal growth that San Antonio's having right now. How are we going to deal with all these people that are coming to San Antonio? And if he's going to get 70,000 jobs, where, my question when I heard him say that was, and where are they going to live? And where are they going to work? And hopefully not on South Broadway. We've got enough people ending up on South Broadway because we have over on Alamo Street, the Alamo Community College District is moving 500, 600 people to that little corner of Alamo and Broadway. And just a little bit down the street is going to be the headquarters for human credit, whatever that. Yeah, credit is moving all of its headquarters down there. So already we see and we know from some of the plans they've talked about and we all, and I've had separate meetings with some of my neighborhood groups and I'll bring that up as a plus two that you have to do. But there is a plan in the quarter plan to make Broadway a boulevard from Mulberry South. And in doing that, in making it a boulevard, it would take away two lanes. We already, we have six right now and there's mornings when those six are full and you can't move. And particularly if 281 gets blocked up, we know it's blocked up over in the neighborhood trying to pull out a mannequin park on Broadway is impossible because all the traffic from 281's on Broadway. And if you put all that employment down there and there's other people going downtown and all the people living there are curled, dead area. We might want to move to these folks plans. We're gonna be starting late. We really don't care about Broadway, we wanna know what's going on with South Side. No, and South Side you have the quarter plan for Zars-Mora? We're gonna have an electric show tomorrow, so it really don't matter what we're gonna do with Broadway. Yeah, right, that's the truth and thank you. What can you do to help you in your plan and become knowledgeable? If you have any of the website there and what you'll find are all these attachments, anything in blue, click on it and you get it. It's, if you, that page has it also, I think. Very small, you can't see it. I find in preparing for my meetings, I took time and my recommendation is that you very become, for example, with a comprehensive plan, because that drives the whole shift. Have some familiarity with it so that when you have a specific topic you're concerned about, you know what, you've seen it in there and then you can go to it and read what did the comprehensive plan say. But you get a picture of the planning and what's going to be encompassed in it because it's there to take care of jobs, housing, wellness and the general environment of the city. Know what's in the comprehensive plan. But more importantly, go ahead and space it. It is important that you know your neighborhood plan. Know what you've got and what you wanna protect. You have to have a good working knowledge, not just of your plan, but if it's an NCD or you have any kind of land use documents, those you have to know about before you start meeting with the other people. What is it that your neighborhood has built in the case of Manatee Park? Our plan was done in 2001, 2008, we had NCD. So we were always knowledgeable to that. And what has caused us to be a spread kind of thin this year, we are also redoing our NCD. And to do a revision of your NCD, you have to get your city council person to request a review. Review your up. Okay. I'm sorry, I didn't go there. We can go there. Yes, you're gonna talk about that there. So let's just talk quickly about you know, we've gotten a lot of concerns. I mean, obviously what you need to know is your neighborhood or community plan. Ours is the midtown and a lot of us know what backwards and forwards. You also need to start getting familiar with your comp plans. A lot of you are wondering an email and I see it on media, how did we get here? There's this fear about our neighborhood plans are gone. You're right. I mean, two years ago, three years ago, two of them started on this issue. And for a year, we lobbied and we worked and we struggled against the city and used our elected officials to represent us. And when they came out with it in May, we saw the version and pushed back hard. And through district one, Trevino was the most sympathetic at the time and he helped put forth proposals that we had made. Even after that, up to the night before the adoption, tier one was still pushing and we were able to get language that protects neighborhoods. As you're going into this, even though we were told straight up to our faces that the neighborhood plans would survive, they didn't mean they'd survive the way we know them now. They're going to survive as a part of a larger document. That's why it's important for you all to have your neighborhood plans and know that they should walk in. But what we were able to do, what wouldn't have been there had we not pushed, tier one pushed is we have neighborhood friendly language now. We are now, the reason why neighborhoods are on these implementation committees or these formation committees is because we got language inserted that said one of the stakeholders that has to be at the table was neighborhoods, neighborhood leadership or neighborhood residents. Because they were saying, well, a developer is a resident. Yeah, I mean, that's, somebody actually told us that. So, yeah, right. Well, they're residents of Chicago, but you know, they're residents somewhere. So, these are sections and again, if you put your email, you will get a copy of this. We said, we got sections, all of these sections are sections that if you look them up as you go into these meetings, you will have neighborhood friendly language to use. It either says, this is good except where it causes stress on the neighborhood or that kind of language that you should know so that you have the most effective weapon of all to protect your neighborhood is the document itself. That's the argument the city will pay attention. So, Travenial, Councilman Travenial want to give him this prize. He's the one that really listened to us and made those changes even the night before. The plan was adopted in 2016. Anyone who feels like, well, we need to fight for our neighborhood plans, that train leather station. It's just, it's in Pittsburgh by now. That's just not an argument that's going to hold up. The way you protect your neighborhood plan is that you participate in the sub-area plans, the things that Butch is talking about and come arms with knowledge. So, two things. In fact, one of the guiding principles, Travenial used it the other day in a meeting when they were saying about STRs, when they were saying, well, we should have, let STRs be everywhere. He said, the first guiding principle, the first guiding principle in this document, you're welcome from STR, from tier one, is maintain the character and integrity of existing San Antonio neighborhoods. The other one is that we got at the very last minute, while the comp plan is an umbrella policy and planning document city-wide implications, it does not alter or negate our existing neighborhood community plans. That's, it's gone, that's gone. We got that in there, but it's been effectively ignored. So that's just a little bit about the history and your neighborhood plans and what's going to happen with them and how you can continue to have your neighborhood, what's important in your neighborhood plans in the future. Yeah, that's a good question. So, I'm listening to, you know, about making parts. Do we know how, what these decisions, even though you're making it for this midtown, how these initial decisions are going to impact all of us down the line, like land use. Once you do your land use, it's going to be passed from the region one, which is going to be our land used down the line, but we don't know. Well, I would know, I would under, when it comes out, read there, whatever yours is, if you're part of a regional center, if you're part of a community area, look at the plans that are being drawn up now, because what the city will want to do is have consistency. I mean, that's the truth. And if you feel like that's not going to work for your neighborhood, then you should be looking about ways that you can change that when it's your turn. Yes, sir. I just want to point out that we've gone through all of what you are saying in the eastern triangle plan. This is our plan that was adopted in 2009, and we're comprised of 16 neighborhood associations, and we cover 21 square miles. The differences is that we incorporated our implementation and management plan, and for any changes to be made without our consent to any portion of the eastern triangle, we will be able to sue whoever the responsible party is, is trying to change our eastern triangle plan. So towards, at the end, we're going to have community discussions. What I want to do is offer the leadership, your steering committee any expertise that we have because we have gone through all of this, and here is the map of... Okay, well, thank you. We'll give you that. Okay, thank you. So that's the way you know because we've been through it, and we know that collective neighborhood associations coming together have more influence, and power, and voting until it needs to go ahead and implement changes as you want. Thank you. We'll finish this conversation. But what I want to do is... Okay. Thank you very much, Annette. You both bring up a good point, an excellent point that has incumbent upon all of us as citizens of San Antonio, but also much more when you become part of the planning process. Pay attention to what's going on in city council. Go out to registrar and see what meetings are coming up, and you can register to be notified, for example, from developmental services on permits that are pulled or have been requested, and those pull to do any demolition in your neighborhood, yet on their information cycle so that you know what your neighbors are doing and planning. And we can't say, and get back to the original question here, Manatee Park and the north of the... We are not done yet with... We've got three more meetings of midtown, and in those three meetings, we'll be coming up with our action plan. We'll be looking at land use. So what's the impact going to be on you? And ask me that question in August, because we'll see what the plan is. It's to go to city council in August. But I want to make one important point, I think. A plan is a plan. When do you have to be there in the audience to really let your feelings be known? Before they vote? Before they vote. It has to be turned into an ordinance. They can't spend money. They can't change your zoning without an ordinance. So you have another chance. This is a plan only. That's up here. In the weeds, when they start trimming your weeds, get there and show them how, and what you need in your area. Okay, Steve? Would you address what you think are the critical issues that are now here in the Department of Planning, which I understand are your presentations coming up? What are the main issues? The main issues are that they're trying to summarize, if that's a good way of putting it, and reduce the number of individual zoning categories. And then, if you look at what I think they're gonna project, you'll see heavy use residential, or mixed use residential, and then that's just a broader category, but it is so important that you go in and look at that definition. As they identify, they all incorporate it into that. It's like the corridor plan, which the plan was approved by City Council, but alert to all of you along any main thoroughfare. If they put in a station, a hub, there, it's not something new. And so then it becomes, and you can talk to it better than I do. He knows more about that special zoning, TOD, within a half mile of where that hub would be, they can change it to a story home, so to speak. We need to be leery of that. And that went through City Council and didn't hear much barking. But now when it comes down to changing zoning, as it did in Montevista, we have to be there. And I agree with the gentleman over here, collectively, and that's what tier one is, collectively, we have held up that we gave the planning commission a nice big notebook when the corridor plan came up. And four or five of us trusted that meeting, and they delayed approval of the plan at that point and sent it back to them so that they could do some revisions. You have to be watchful of what's going on in City Council, particularly planning, zoning committee, and I would say you have to be good friends, not loving friends, but good friends with your City Council person. Oh boy. Oh, I just said love, good working relationship. Oh boy, I mean, sorry. If you can. Yeah, we'll wait. Okay, one is two. Yes. Who are the planning organizers? That's the person you'll be, the planning manager will be identified to you if you're asked to be on the committee. In our neighborhood. In the neighborhood. It too is coming up for approval on Wednesday, is the new contract for next year for the corporation. Understand that it's a planning group that runs these meetings with the City and San Antonio's planning staff. And you will have somebody that's a contact person. So let me just jump in on that. On Wednesday at four o'clock, the comprehensive plan committee is gonna get a presentation by staff on the year two contract with the consultant that's been doing these, running these planning teams. And so it's, if any of you are available or have folks in your neighborhoods that are available to attend that meeting, there's not a citizens to be heard component to that, but you'll get the first look at what some of these things are being discussed. Staff will give council, that council committee, which is the subcommittee of city council, a presentation on this consultant contract for the second year. They're also gonna discuss the planning process and do an update there. They're also gonna discuss the SA2040. So being at those meetings gives you the early on look at what's coming up. It also makes sure that our council people and the staff are on notice that we're watching. And that has been very effective for our neighborhood group. So I think, to keep things moving, but is there, are there any other questions on this slide in particular? What was the day two of this meeting? Wednesday at 4, I think it's at 4 p.m. and we'll send that out. It's at the municipal building. We'll make sure that that goes out to everybody so that you can attend that. And for a morning visit with some neighborhood name and some of that are gonna be closed, so. Any other questions on what's on this slide? One thing I wanna say is that I'm on a group's team and I find that some of the people they brought in to guide us are not from here. They have not follow this idea of what's going on. And so here's what the line is. And I think we should be looking forward that to. We're gonna, here. Okay, let's go beyond that to where you have the suggestions. I wanna see if we can get to go ahead with that to the next slide. Oh, okay, well maybe it was the previous slide. So, sorry, I'm sorry, this is a little bit of a different border than what I had seen. But where he talks about suggestions, what I've heard from one of the other people that was on a team is exactly that. They come with the academic knowledge of how to do this. They don't come with the knowledge of the culture, the tradition. The history, the personality of your neighborhoods. And that's what's gonna be your job when you're on the planning team is to bring that into the conversation so that those considerations are also taken into account. Yeah, my name is Colin Jones, Dignity Hill. Without getting into the rabbit hole that I know we can all go into each neighborhood is a little different. Having said that, my question to Cynthia and the rest of the steering committee, how can I go about making sure that I as a resident am contacted by this faceless entity? And that I'm not sure it will come through neighborhood leadership to be honest. Just say it won't come through neighborhood leadership. I'm trying to be politically correct, but Lulu's bought honor. So how can I make sure that I as a concerned resident of my neighborhood am able to track and watch this as an individual as opposed to being part of the N.A.? So what I would do, I mean, and it's work. I mean, people, you know, this is a time-consuming endeavor. But you have to get on their website. You have to contact whoever the staff person is and say, I want you to be on the mailing list. And if you find out you're not, you call again. And you call again. And you call again. The thing with the city, what works, and you're still not, and you go above that person, maybe you're a wait till the third time. Second time you go above that person and say, I've asked for both of a public meeting. Go to citizens to be heard or to a committee meeting. I've asked twice to be on the mailing list. And I'm not. If this is an inclusive and transparent process, you have to make it public and you have to be persistent. And you can go up right now on that San Antonio Tomorrow site and get on their mailing list right now because they do send out things periodically. Staff of food. So a lot of times like Garrett Phillips is the midtown. Garrett Phillips is the person who's in charge of the midtown. There's always a staff person besides the out-of-town consultants that, you know. So I've been looking for staff to sign to near east side or whatever it's called. Or call the planning department and say, who is the person that's in charge of the near east side? Who's it going to be? What is their email address? We'd like to start saying informed. Okay. Because you'll have a consultant and somebody else. And challenge them on the language they use in the meeting if you don't understand what it is. That's how you learn. Because they are coming from an academic planning background and they have their own language. You know, what? And you need to know what design form is. What does that mean when you talk about the neighborhood? I know what we want in design and related to our NCD, but what are they talking about? What do they mean? Okay, let's have the panel members pop. Y'all. I'm gonna sit down. I think my question might be a nice segue for Brady's. Okay, Brady, your experience. Or me. My name is Brady Alexander. I represent the Hot Wells Mission Reach Neighborhood Association. We're the association along the river, including Hot Wells Motel. Also the state hospitals, north of Brooks to South Cross. East boundary is New Braunfels. We have been involved in the Brooks area plan. And I'd like to tell you a story about that that unfortunately has some similarities with other individuals I've talked with dealing with the city in this plan and other plans. Basically a year ago, the Brooks Manager Plan Committee was started. Four months prior to that, the president of Hot Wells resigned and I took over from them, updated with the city, et cetera. We were never asked if we wanted to be included in Brooks. Correspondence never occurred. I found out through the grapevine that they were looking for representation in this area. They had not contacted us according to them. They called the ex-president, played phone tag, et cetera. We never changed our email address and correspondence was never through an email. Then they said we had to contact district three who knew of the change in the organization and it was me personally, et cetera. They appointed a person that was on their bond committee to represent the Hot Wells area instead of going to the organization and so we could solicit through our members who would represent us on there. When I contacted Rudy Nino, he basically lied to me on the phone about the deadline had passed. I had access to an email that the deadline was not for a couple more days. So we went back and forth, et cetera, and I made an issue of sometimes it takes that, sometimes it takes a foot in the door to get something done. And I went and got the, Bridget White, his boss, finally sent us an email inviting us after we had demanded to be on there. At that point, went to the members and asked, would anybody like to represent? If not, I will. We had a volunteer that wanted to be on there. So placed her on there. She missed about half of the meetings and part of the criteria we had was that she'd present to the members at our association meeting and was not meeting those requirements. So approached her on that and she made an email to me that said, I don't want to be on the Brooks Planning Team anymore and I don't want to be a member of the Neighborhood Association. So at that point, we went to the city and said, we need, we're selecting another representative. They did not allow us to change representation even though other organizations have dropped out. Things have changed there. I've attended every meeting as a community person, not as a representative. And I count on one hand the number of people from the area that lived in the area at those meetings, less than five. There are more police and firemen on the Brooks Planning Team than Neighborhood Associations and members. It's kind of sad. So anyway, that's the way they deal with it. We've brought up stuff. You want me to hurry up? What are some tools that you would say? I mean, I think what we get out of what you said is it's important to pick a representative that's going to report back to the Neighborhood to pick somebody that's familiar with your Neighborhood Plan and land use in general to somebody that's going to be attend and share with the membership. So as a Neighborhood Association, you also have a responsibility in how you select your representative. Now, I know this grade, this was not your experience, but I was told that the Neighborhoods can switch out their representative if that becomes necessarily and they can also have an alternate. So having said that, if the city tries to tell you you can't, you can push back on that because I've been told by city staff that you can. So as opposed to what didn't work, what would you say that are some positive tools that people could use when they're interacting with the planning team? None. Okay. No, I'm serious, but that's what this group is here for. Basically, I'm here to offer solutions, but I'm identifying problems at the first here. Okay. And that is why my presentation is the way it is. So now you're on to the solutions. The solution to it is not give up. If you give up, then they're gonna decide for you. They may have already decided for you. We have seen instances like some of the things that I just brought up to where they designate. We're forcing you to do this. We have the power to do this. When input is asked, we spent one whole meeting, for instance, designating what land use on the state hospital, which is four acres. Two meetings later, they came back and said, oh, we can't designate land use on the state property. All for none. Things have been left out. Maps are inaccurate. I didn't know Mission San Juan was behind my house till I saw one of their maps. The corridor plan was all off. Roosevelt was listed as Rockport Avenue, which is, by the way, 1604. So a lot of the people doing this are from out of state, out of town. And if you do, the template that they're using is the same as multiple cities I'm not gonna get into, but a little research on the internet would be very helpful on that. So yes, you have people that their qualifications are, they have a full swing follow-up mirror. So sometimes they have to be led and shown what is wrong. But they will take the input that you give and only listen at times to what fits their predetermined plan and helps them cover their ass on their mistakes. Others will just be dropped out. Your land use and community plans will be used against you potentially. If something in that agrees with what they want, they will look at that and throw everything else out. So it is very frustrating. And obviously, as you can see, I'm not a sheeple. They don't herd me. But at those meetings, that is their technique, it seems, is to be more of herding than leading or listening. I've seen input where they say, no, that can't happen here. Well, why? Because this is gonna be this and that. I'll get the questions here in a second. But the information does not flow back and forth. We find out about projects that are in the middle and maybe there's some legal reasons, et cetera, developer doesn't want out there. But it all should be above the table. And I strive for transparency. I don't, my opinion and the opinions of, I should say the Neighborhood Association, we try to keep that very simple, clear, concise. And so it's not vague in any way. My suggestions would be to overcome these problems that I've just mentioned, is to be very proactive. The office is down there. Flores behind the Goodwill, go down there and sit there to let me with you. Do whatever it takes. Channel four is a good option too, if you have to. Continue to request from your city officials. If you don't have a good relationship with your council person, well, there's other ways of pushing it. Try to contact your zoning commissioner. We've contacted ours, who is present here, multiple times and she has not met with us on these issues. At Brooks, I've never seen the zoning commissioner there. I've never seen people show up on stuff. And there is so much going on right now with this, for instance, down here at the World Heritage, other items, they're hitting all at once. So be prepared, work with your neighbors. I have not been contacted by any neighborhood association in our area about working on this. For instance, we need to work better together and that would be my advice on that. The membership of Brooks, for example, has more developmental interest and people that don't live in the area. To be on the planning team in your area, the neighborhood association must be within the boundary. But anybody else, they can bring in to legitimize it, whether it be a developer, in our case, city staff, et cetera. So they, in our case, they're having a problem with getting people in there. So it's a numbers game and they feel we put more bodies in there able to legitimize it. Well, it's what the people say, not what the number. And also, by the way, they refuse to send us emails of the itinerary or the scheduling of meetings to the neighborhood association. They tell us that is your representative. We've designated it for you. Is that what you say they, who is they? That'd be the planning team, Brady, Daniel, and Richard White. That told me that we're not gonna send you info. I don't get, on our Hot Wheels email address, itinerary for the next meeting, I cannot disseminate to the members if they want to attend. So we have a disconnect. It doesn't go to us. We have a designated representative and only that person. That represents the neighborhood association. We do not have a designated representative. They've designated our representation. Can I insert something to maybe help you in that situation? In that issue, you can go to the same center tomorrow, site, and get a listing of where the meetings are and what time it's out there. It's available to you as the general public. It has to be. They can't keep the meetings down. Right. Go ahead, I'll take questions on this. Why are we doing this anyway? Well, it needs to be done. This needs to be done, but it needs to be done right, not by this date. So this is a good idea. It's good in theory, whether it's good in practice, I don't know. It may get held up into the lack of community input and the problems with it, with this contract going up to these consultants. I'm mentioning probably a worst-case scenario, but I hope that you can learn from that and overcome these problems, these techniques. The city, in my opinion, is using to marginalize the input of local community and get done what they want by only listening to or surrounding themselves with people that agree with their predetermined plan. And we need to have people that question that say, hey, this is something you may have not looked at and this is wrong or this needs to be, we need to get it right. We need the maps to be accurate. We need to be what the community wants, et cetera. That's what they want. Okay, we better get that. Why are we interfering in this stuff? You brought that up. They've set a deadline, in my opinion. They've set a deadline. Community plans took years. Now we gotta get this done in months. Because if you can get it done quickly, you don't, things don't get thought out that well if you do things in haste. This is my opinion of it, that they have, they want it done, they're trying, it probably comes down from the city manager. One more comment or question in the back there. Oh, all right. Hello, I'm agent Melideas. I'm on the Westside Land Use Planning Committee. I've been down there for the beginning. I also have a certain of the zoning commission. So some of the things that came up, I immediately saw things that, like he said, you really have to look into it. What I recommend, if you're gonna be on that thing, that's what I was doing right now. Sorry, I'm out of the room. But everyone needs to get a copy of the examples of permitted uses in the city of San Antonio. The reason for that, now this is a sheet for them, because when you go into the UGC, it's a sheet for people who want to know. Oh, I got it, yes. So each one tells you, like it says, R6 or whatever, it tells you if it allows for a duplex, it's tri-plastic stuff. Another thing that people need to ask is what do they mean by units per acre? A unit would be a complex. So we need to be very careful with that. So for sure we need this thing. Now, for the people that offended my meeting, they were told, look at this, what is it? Color chart. And now we're gonna look at this thing. This is all the mastermind. And then we're gonna go ahead and tell you all a little bit about the classification for the HIST-Biting and Development Code, and then they show it to your map. Now this is after they show you the same map over and over again that is not as specific. Now, this is a very dangerous paper. Because in this one, they'll tell you that the classifications are residential estate that allows for R20, low-density residential that allows for R5, R6, neighborhood reservation. Urban low-density residential allows for an R3 all the way to TODs or MSA teams. That's kind of tricky. So we really need to learn this paper. Now what you need to know what's going on here, you have to have the first paper with samples on it to go one by one. So you're like, okay, so what am I looking at here? We need to bring up a great point and let me underscore it because that document comes from the UDC. Yes, sir. That is the Bible and it's going up for revision in 2020. We have to pay attention now because they'll be revising it and it can only be revised every five years. That five years coming up in 2020. That I asked one plank, I said, there is a neighborhood planning, a community planning in our area. In your area. There's 10 of us on that planning committee and that planning committee where we're going to follow for a land use committee. There's a community plan that's 120th the size of the whole area we're now representing that one community plan had over 200 individuals from that small community. We want commercial, we want this. What's scary is this thing allows you one part from residential all the way to commercial. So since with a community plan, something came in and they needed a plan amendment they had to go to the planning commission. So that was one safeguard. This thing bypasses it. That's why we don't see any developers involved because this is our safety. And that thing that you keep saying this thing is that the new land use category? Is it actually a tractor using for SHMRO land uses? Okay. That's what we're trying to catch people. So that's what y'all need to understand is the city has these new land use categories that they're implementing and these categories are now much broader. And so you could have what you have in your current plan once they implement these new land use categories is gonna change all the different types of zoning that can go in that land use. And this whole thing is about land use. So I think the point or what the takeaway is of some of this conversation is that you need to also prep yourself by understanding the new land use categories and how that's gonna affect zoning because they're gonna use those new land use categories on these new maps. Yes, the other thing is that in the community plan, I've been asking why is it a community plan that was much smaller, have so much information to do? For example, they would give you the income levels, the property, the rate of the stuff. The income levels is very important because what we're already seeing is when development does come in, for example, there's one that allows a three-story to a five-story field where it makes use of the bottle for commercial service, but anyhow, when these things come in, your friends will manage to do it. One example is two homes, same street, East, One West, a friend value of 2014 was approximately 43, and one, and 45 on the other. 2017, one comes across 180 something thousand, the other at 200 and something thousand. The taxes of one of them was 735 because of the different rules disabled and because of age. The other one, the taxes are $5,800. Now, in our area, we have $40,000 homes. Not for big, they go up that high. They're on fixed income, so no more. They're today laborers, they're gone. So that's why I requested that I wanted to see the income. I'm happy. They said, well, it's a US census and the US census no longer requires that statement. Well, that's wrong. There has to be a better way. We need to wait for, like he said, we need to wait for the, to have more information properly done as if it was a small community plan because this is, because I didn't ask for a plan because this is like a community plan. He said yes, but it's huge. I need to hand this off to the next presenter. I just wanna make one final comment. Need to look at what's going on and learn from the mistakes or the problems that we have. Also, look, this Tuesday coming up, there's a big rezoning going on in the world heritage. That is the same mechanism that will be used in these community plans. I've asked Point Blank, will zoning be done against the wishes of the property owner? Yes, it will. So when these plans and the ideas they have and there needs to be some continuity, streets treated the same, et cetera, but be very aware of what, how this is going on and learn from it. You can, you may not be able to change it. It's gonna be a snowball rolling down a hill by the time it gets to you, it's gonna be pretty big, but you can at least see what is coming down the road and what's going to hit you. And I have one other suggestion by your neighbor's property if you can, because the city, the way they're going, they're gonna do whatever. So yeah, that's a really good point you brought up, because when we get our 2009 neighborhood plan under the nose to us and a bunch of people, we have wheeled a lot. They changed the lot to IDC zoning, without even telling us. So now we're fighting that. They thought our zoning person is helping us with that. So you need to let your residents know that they're gonna try to do this and you can fight it, but you have to fight it as a group, because they don't care, because they're doing it because that's what they think the direction of the neighborhood is going to go in. What's the, excuse me, I've got one question for you. And I think the key sheet that you're referring to, where did you find that? It's on the website. It's on what you said. He said, okay, this is like a friend of mine, but in any case, one thing that I was told regarding that community of what we were told point blank, because of a lot of time, I guess the guy just finally said, you know what, you all are in trouble. A lot of people have been in trouble. So he said, there's a directive I'm following. I said, who gave that directive? I'm sorry, I came to the school. It's my job to try to convince you to just go all the way. But you as a community, we have to have a formality, have a reason to do this. Okay, that's a bottom line. Let's give her a chance to thank you very much. I'm Ricky Kruse, I live in Tobin Hill. I have not been a member of one of the planning teams. However, I have been to most of the meetings. First of all, I'd like to explain a little bit about, we have now neighborhood and community plans. That's what they're called. They are similar. They're relatively small areas. However, the essay to borrow comprehensive plans has put into effect much larger, larger areas, and they're called regional centers and community centers. And you will hear about plans for these, but they're not talking about the neighborhood plans that you have, your individual neighborhoods, or your individual community plans. These are plans that encompass usually several different communities and neighborhoods all together in one thing. It's very confusing, but that's what it is. And you have a neighborhood now, you will probably be tumped in with one or two other neighborhoods or communities in order to make these plans. So that's what we're talking about here. That's how Butch, and for making part, and the Tobin Hill people ended up in the same meetings. Because the Midtown Regional Center encompasses Tobin Hill, Mankey Park, I think it's Westport, Westport, and Five Points. Originally, it included also Beacon Hill and Montevista. Those two neighborhoods pulled out early, early on. But you can only pull out so far. Eventually, it's gonna catch you. There's a schedule, a one-year plan for so many that are supposed to be done within two years, so many more are supposed to be done, but in three years, so many more are supposed to be done. So it's going to come to you eventually. There are regional community and community centers that are going to be planned. The Neighborhood Associations and Community Associations are going to be asked to supply a representative and a backup. It's a good idea to get somebody who really understands the neighborhood very well and who can speak, who is a canalissum, and understand, and reply. Because otherwise, you end up with someone who just sits there and never says anything, and all of this is going on around the world. And you are going to have developers, you're going to have business people, you're going to have people who live in a neighborhood, you're going to have everybody there. And it depends on where you are as to how many different types of representatives you have. I'm afraid that with the Midtown Regional Center, we were pretty well, the neighborhood people were pretty well outnumbered by both the business and the development and all of the other entities that are interested and that are supposedly stakeholders in this. So you have one representative and one backup. I would urge you, the meetings go this way, let's do that, the meetings go this way. There's usually a preliminary time, about half hour, when they have the city supplies refreshments and you can almost have supper. Usually starts around six o'clock in the evening. In a half hour, there's an introduction that everybody who's there, you know, says who they are. Then they review the results of the previous meeting or all the community meetings that might have happened. Community meetings are different from the planning meetings. Community meetings are these larger meetings where people are asked to come and things are presented to them and then they're supposed to make comments. Then in this particular one that I'm looking at, there was a review of housing and economic development issues done by the planner and the city people and then there was a discussion of housing and economic development goals and strategies. I don't know about you, but if I'd been sitting in that meeting, I would have been completely flummoxed by then. It's too much information and it's also an awful lot of information about things that you don't really understand with language that you don't understand. So here is my advice to you. First of all, even if you are not the representative, attend the meetings. Attend the meetings so that you will know what's going on. Talk about it in your neighborhood meetings so that you can get other people, you can tell other people what's happening. Know your neighborhood plan. Read it. Know it. Understand it. Find out about your neighborhood demographics. Your neighborhood plan was put together at a certain time and as the gentleman mentioned, the demographics that's reported in your neighborhood plan is from the US Census. Census is only happened every 10 years. So if you can, find out about your neighborhood demographics and know your neighborhood. Know how much of it is residential. Know about the commercial parts of it. Know about the types of residences. The types of zoning. In other words, get really familiar with your neighborhood from the point of view of the city. How does the city think about your neighborhood? You need to know this because you're gonna be talking about this with the city. And yes, your land use maps are going to go forward. You might have a neighborhood plan or a community plan with a land use map in it. When the land use, the new land use is, comes through the city council, it's going to do away with your land use maps in your community and neighborhood plan. Yes. Vicki, if you go on the city website and you look up the community plans or neighborhood plans, they are currently on there. So once the SHMAR plan gets done, will those plans then be taken off of the website? No, they will not. Will we see the regional ones? No, they will not. They will continue to stay on there? They will continue to be there. So for South Central Alliance, the neighborhood plan, currently it was done in 2005. We have been asking for years to revise it because it doesn't, the things don't match. It's happening now. What we've been told is that, well, we're gonna be changing the land use things. We're gonna be changing some of the residential things there and it will reflect in your neighborhood plan. Is that true? Is that how it's gonna happen? Yes. I assume so. It hasn't happened yet, so nobody really knows. The regional center, this Midtown Regional Center is, I think it's number three on the list of plans that need to be done. They are rushing it, they are pushing it, but there's no precedent. None of the others have been done. Okay. Oh, gosh. Thank you. I have a question. As going to the Midtown meetings in the regional, how are they gonna run it then? We have neighborhood association meetings. We've talked about our neighborhood. How are they gonna plan all of these together in the regional? How do you get an input about the regional center? Are they gonna just like, in April, still in the association, we have a elected person. I'm running the region. Do they ever talk about how that's gonna be? Okay, well, the way it works with the plans, with putting together the plans, is the planning team is made up of representatives of various and some neighborhoods, and as I said, others, stakeholders, that are interested parties. And that is where the majority of the planning is done, under the direction of the city. They leave the meetings. They supply the materials. AV, all that. But they also come to your neighborhood association and meet with you and explain what has gone on, more or less. They also supply the visuals and all of that. And there is always, when you're meeting with the neighborhood associations, there's always a give and take. There is a chance to have input from the neighborhood. So they're meaning they have this one team where all the neighborhoods come together in this center. But then they also have an individual neighborhood meetings. And they also have community meetings, which are supposed, are the larger. I didn't get to the community meetings. I appreciate you bringing that up. That's the one thing that you're told me they're gonna have to change because they didn't do it well. No, they didn't. They, I hate to pick on San Antonio College, but they claimed one of them at San Antonio College in the Student Center. Used to be on the street. It's not on the street anymore. It's in the center of this massive campus. And nobody showed up. There were three or four people from Manatee Park and a couple others. So they will have to change those community meetings, which are for the community to have input and to go around and talk to the consultants. But that will be one of the changes. There'll be more of them and they'll be better located to the public. Yes, ma'am. It's been a little bit long, but I wanted to go ahead. The majority of us here are from the historical neighborhoods. And right now we're dealing with this land use. We have a neighborhood plan in our neighborhood of Government Hill. They don't care. The land use is out the window right now. We're dealing with developers trying to rezone, which they've already approved one in the middle of our historic neighborhood. I know, we have a same problem. Okay, with a three-story town hall. We have three problems. So we finally met after this whole thing started back in November of last year. Because their developers only been meeting with the board president, which we're dealing with that separately because she never works for an investor. We have over 200 sign petitions from our neighborhood, our residents. We finally had a meeting with our house women yesterday after months and months and months. And basically, the city's gonna do what they wanna do. It doesn't matter if you're restoring. OHP won't speak to us. So their proposal and their contract with us to be a historic means nothing because they're not going to back you. Well, I will have to defend OHP to a certain extent. OHP does not, it's rules. Do not include getting into things like zone. But the aesthetics of the property. And they do that. And they haven't. Well, we've been trying to deal with that. But the fact is that we as a board can have a group of people that represent the neighborhood. But now they're working with the developer. Well, the entire neighborhood, and we talked about the demographics, the neighborhood right now, we're understanding about the housing. They wanna have available housing at a $200 rate home. Well, we have homes under the $200 rate home. But they wanna move those people out to build a brand new jointed off of the $200,000 property. It makes no sense. So we do have gentrification happening. Well, we have for a right there on Broadway. We are. For a right on Broadway. So the process right now with the city and the district office, they're just looking at him and... We're gonna do what we wanna do. I don't know what the feedback from the council, the council office was, but my advice to you is the same as Brady's. Don't give up. Keep hammering at the council. Oh, yeah. Keep hammering at his advice. It was an official protest with the city third and he flew there and was like, what? Personal. Go ahead and go through the process. The process. But one of my major philosophies is keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer. Do not sever ties with the people you disagree with. Do not sever ties with the people who have done something that you feel is wrong. Keep an eye on them. And if they are in positions of authority or if they were advisors to positions of authority, that's my major. And obviously just... Next, go ahead, one more question. Yes, sir. Someone else. Someone I told for Gagau and they wish I'd hear again. Yeah. Then they go and bond and pass is a big part of it. So it seems that they pass the bond and pass the money but it doesn't fit the area or what they want the money for. So the Zandy's plan is trying to facilitate developers to go in. I had never seen a multi-million dollar church in my area before. That was a red flex. The Voltaus had one. And when I saw that, I said something was wrong. Because they're dealing with major projects. But now they're not in my area or our area. Because it's our city. So look at the bond, look at what's where the monies are going and their area is a long call for help from the bond monies. But that's one of the signals and you can see the corridor to help. Here's a community plan that's in our area. Because we didn't have... There was never any money for everyone to get a community plan. So you have a lot of work to get out of it. And then how to get this is kind of hard. As things move on, as you all can see the community plan was just a little section. This is a land use plan, it's going to be the first thing. So that totally trumps the community plan, which is set. The community plan were very specific. They were very well done. You have commercial, that's it. You have this, that, that. It was layered in the old days. Yes. This stuff, it mixes everything up. And in this case, within that community plan now, I don't think the people wanted five storey, eight storey buildings. So that's just a little community plan. So this is a new map to come out. Now, the presentations they do, the community meetings do not show this, sadly. So the only one that gets to see are the committee members, which is us. So when I see this, I go to the community and I go, where's the... Oh, well, we're trying to bring them up to speed. We're trying to do this. We're trying to do that. But then who's going to take the blame for all this? We are. Even though we jumped and screamed and yelled or whatever, it doesn't matter. So that's what's coming. I mean, there's a lot of homework we're all going to do. So get the bomb, look at the papers I said. And that way, when you go to these things, maybe we're a lot of scholars. I mean, it's like the train at the station and we're on the tracks, just waiting for a handover. But hopefully, others in the city will have a chance to really be heard. Be visible. Be at the commission meeting place. I'm listening. Darrell, you have your hand up a couple different times. No. Well, actually, I do have a question. Yes. For neighborhoods like Government Hill and parts of totally different historic districts that have been through this process. Do you have a sense? I mean, they give us the conservative, I'm from La Baca. They give us lip service about the historic integrity of the neighborhoods. We have a problem with the HB, frankly. My personal opinion is that HB is chipping away at the historic integrity of our neighborhood by not enforcing all the things that they are empowered to enforce and don't have to do the zoning, particularly. And I think that's perhaps a mistake for them just being able to sort of wash away because it's no longer has this sort of integrity. I'm curious if any of the other and historic neighborhoods have had that feeling that something should look forward. Yeah, yeah. I think historic NCD, I think all neighborhoods feel that way. Whether you're historic or not, I think we all feel as if our neighborhood plans to be true. Right. Perhaps because a little more accurate. Right, but I think you have found that not necessarily to be true. And it's one of the things that's kept our neighborhood, which is an NCD from going to the store, because we really don't see the advantage. So, Alex? Our problem, and I've got a story into NCDs in my neighborhood. It's the undisciplined court of adjustment. People don't get in their way. They can go to court of adjustment. They can do court of adjustment. Does not follow the UCD. They go from the gut. You feel sorry for people, especially those who did changes without permits and allow it. And that's right in our area. We just had that happen in Manatee Park. We're going to have a four story home right across from the golf course. And all the other homes are down here. But the BOA is the one that did it. Yeah, and I go into the city and they said, well, you can sue in district court. Well, you know, we're not. Yeah, I mean, neighborhoods are definitely at the disadvantage. One of the things that, so we sit in here in this group as a coalition. And this is really the place and the method that we can make the most progress. And so staying engaged with the coalition and then also identifying people that are within the coalition that might have similar issues. So you're talking about historic districts. Everybody should get the contact list. Get in touch with some of those other historic districts. Maybe meet together, see if you can come up with something that you can go to council with. There's been a lot of change in the last two years as far as us being vocal and speaking up. And I do think it's having an impact. It's slow and it's reticent, but it's having an impact. Attend, even if you're not on the planning team, those are open to the public. So attend, you can attend those meetings when staff and the planning team see other public there that changes their dynamic in the room. See if you attend as often as possible, even the city council committee meetings. So when you look each week at the legislature calendar, for example, this Wednesday at four, the comp plan committee meeting, even though the public doesn't have a citizens to be heard there, our presence in the room changes the dynamic of the room. You see some nodding heads. These are people that have made a habit of trying to attend these meetings. Resources for neighborhoods are difficult. You have enough trouble getting people coming out to your meeting and getting help. It's always the same five and six people, but keep working on it. Keep trying to get that energy going in your neighborhood. Relationships with your council people. Make a relationship with your planning team leader, your project manager. Meet with that person. Have that person come to your neighborhood. But have them explain to your association. And I think if you see other neighborhood associations, be friends with them and help each other. Government Health, Westport, and Manatee Park met with Senator Mendez's staff to help us with an issue with screeds. And we still haven't solved it. Many hasn't gotten back to us, but we need help. There's that other avenue we can take to the state. I don't want the state and everything here. They're in everything already. I just want to mention that I became part of Tier 1 because I'm learning as I'm going. I'm the president of Mission San Francisco Neighborhood Association. I'm an artist and educator. My burning house, where community involvement was art and education, where I got into this development quadrant. And it's just so much. There's so much to learn. And I really, really appreciate Tier 1 giving me that knowledge. I myself have three people that I send to different meetings because I can't attend everything. And it's just really crazy to stay on top of everything that's bombarding our communities. I really appreciate Tier 1 constantly keeping updated. I share that information with my board. We invite people from the city, from all parts of your neighborhood associations that are having problems. We invite them to come to our meetings to educate us because it is a never-ending process of getting information and knowledge and staying empowered with that. But for some of my members, it's really hard for them to use that language because they don't feel confident enough. And so we have two people who feel confident. And I'm sending them all over the place. And it's just really hard to keep them up. So thank you so much to Tier 1 for keeping us updated because I know you guys are everywhere. And I really appreciate them. Thank you, Teri. Thank you. So we're working on a newsletter that's just a quick update of the meetings and what's going on. At the COMP meeting, if you can attend, we'll send out a blurb. This is what happened. This is who involved, who, what, where, when. To help further keep neighborhoods involved, I just want to make the case to and dealing on all of this, we all have, to a certain extent, an adversarial relationship with the city. I mean, the leadership in the culture, not so much with particular staff people who work very hard, but it's difficult and we get frustrated. If you take that with you and that's the voice that you hear all the time, it will shut you out that fast. That voice doesn't work if you want change. You've got to find a way of keeping those emotions in check. And you don't have to be, you know, a love fest, but you have to have a relationship with them that's professional and you have to be persistent. Because what I realize, and they've done it to me, they've done it to everybody in this room, probably, who's gotten so angry, that's been the thing with the city. It won't get us anywhere. Persistence and knowledgeable input to them, keep them informed. And relationships. Relationships are both relationships. You all know that. This city runs on relationships. It does. It's a big small city still. Yeah. Who you know. But be there. I guess we all want to be origin tellers or psychics of the future. I'm going to talk about the NYXS history, what happened in the past. And you'll see that everything that happened here from main public to outside here, is coming to us. So, if you think, I feel all those predictions are something that can happen. And we're not alone. San Antonio is not alone in these struggles. My hometown is Los Angeles. I keep in touch with what's going on there. The language is the same. The neighborhood complaints are the same. The development is the same. This is a nationwide issue. So, don't feel as if we're being picked on or somehow get discouraged by what's happening. Being discouraged only plays into their hand. So, do what you can. I read an article, now that you brought LAO, I can say something to it. They talked about, it was a story on planning and what's going on in LA and all of it. It's a lot of the language we see here. But the point of the article was, you still, no matter what, have the neighborhood and people relate to the neighborhood. You talk to somebody from LA many times, I'm not going to tell you where they live. Not in LA, they live in a neighborhood. The neighborhood has that bond. And I think that's true of San Antonio, too. We have a bond within our area, and that's our relationship. The city is going to be up here, but we're going to continue on no matter what they may do to us in zoning. Zoning? Oh. A reminder to ask if there's a sign in or you know what else. So, we're time to set an end. Any other questions or comments? Yes. Nowcast, that's what we said about Nowcast. Yeah, the cast Nowcast is, we want to thank a couple of you. Yeah, we want to thank Nowcast for doing a great job. I'm going to tell you about Nowcast. Our neighborhood actively supports Nowcast. Nowcast filming, different things has saved us. There's times we've said to the city, you've said this and this and we didn't say that. We didn't do that. It's like, I'm sorry to have it on Nowcast. Go to the link, here's where you said it. It's an extremely important, and I hope your name will support that. Thank you to the mission of San Jose. They provided the coffee and the treats and provided the place for us today, so thank you. Make sure we have your email address. Yes. And the last thing is next time on the one plan to rule them all or how many city plans does it take to screw in a light bulb? Well, we find that a lot of meetings is the battle of the plans. And so I'm trying to work through a way for us to understand the plans because again, the more you walk in with knowledge, the better. But who wins in a battle between the bond plan and the comp plan or the quarter plan versus the tears plan? So I'm going to do an announcement, just give me some information to help you understand what all the plans are, a hierarchy and how to use them. That will be not net June. June. It'll be June. Thank you. I think to remember is a lot of us have been doing this a lot longer than our council people. There's that. Yes. We know more than they do. We have to remember that. That's right. And anybody who would like to help, I'm going to send out, going to have your changer for one more thing. I'm going to send out the contact list, all the notes for today. But this is not a top-down organization. There's nobody making decisions from the Steering Committee. We provide education. If you'd like to help with next month's presentation or in some way participate, please do so. This is a space for us to support and advocate and educate. So please don't feel like there's a small group of people doing things. This is us, not when they say thank you. It's like, no, thank us. So thank you.