 and then say it again, Jay. I think that we're the greatest people of all time. It's not as funny about the context. It's not as funny without the context that I decided to say. The context is us and all of time. And I think that's enough context. That's true. That's a good point, right? So yeah, I'm inclined to agree. We're pretty great. Yeah, I mean, apparently, there's two people saying that now and Frank seem to agree that if all three of you think it's true, that's probably true. That's a sample size of three. Yeah. Yeah, that's a hundred percent win rate. I was about to say a hundred percent out of a hundred percent of the hundred percent of people. That's a lot of percent. That's basically an objective fact. I would say so. At that point, yeah, like it's just kind of inarguable. Yeah, without any level of airing, it is representative of reality. That's true. My black widow video got demonetized, apparently, for using slurs. But I don't remember using any slurs in that video. Neurodiverge, it's not a slur yet, right? It will be probably, but... And you just replace it with the next one that will become a slur. I said someone was a wombo brain, but I don't know if that counts. Wombo is not officially recognized. I hope not. I don't want wombo to go. Yeah. It's actually pretty offensive that it would be considered a slur. That says more about the person who calls for the slur than the person who said it. I agree. What's your problem with wombo? Wombo people deserve representation and elimination. They've suffered enough, right? Elimination, no ranks, please. No, not elimination, that's... No, we're committing wombo side. No. It's going to be the new wombo cost. I'm terrified and scared and all of the other things too. Can you appeal that decision or not? Not if you're a wombo. Because you'll have bias. Yeah, you will be biased if you're a wombo. We need to get a third party. Alrighty, I guess here we go. Who knows what we're in for? Hello, my massive n-weirds, praeseth be the chickeneth also hyrax. Hello. Yes, praeseth be. Hey there. Just finished the unbridled catastrophe. Congrats on 150 as well. Also, have you guys talked about invincible? I've been out of the loop. No, we haven't. No, we still haven't seen that. No, I don't want to really... And to this day, people are battling over whether or not it should be considered good and we're just sitting here like, you guys, you guys go ahead. I feel like more people were saying it was good before. Now more people saying it's average to bad. Yeah, I've been noticing that trend developing as well. And so what are we to make of this? I feel like that means it's probably bad. It used to be the greatest, most amazing, incredible superhero material that's been made. And now, slowly but surely... Now we're not so sure, yeah. Oh, very interesting. I'm so down for ceiling tile reviews. I think that you referenced that right at the beginning with 150, yeah. Yeah, well it must be because if this is where we're starting, yeah. But I do recall the ceiling tile reviews. I feel like it decently reviews ceiling tiles. Yeah, if you both are interested, we could get that going. I don't see why not. I think you're a big fan of ceiling tiles, right? I mean, I wouldn't say that I'm a big fan, but I dabble in ceiling tile connoisseur-y. Let me ask you this, though. Are you a big fan of big fans? You were ceiling tile of big fans? Giant fans? I like big ceiling fans. They're really useful in keeping things cool without using too much energy. We're environmentally conscious in the green, the world of green. Now lines up. The way green gets associated with environmentally aware stuff a lot of the time. Because grass, that's right. Because grass is green and the grass is the environment. I mean, it makes a lot of sense when you think about it. Can't mold be green, too, and snot? And algae. Well, I guess algae, you know, it serves a purpose, right? Yeah, I don't even know why I brought up algae. Algae is incredibly important to the environment. It's really important. Three years already, damn. Thanks for providing the best content on YouTube and here's another 50 episodes. Love you, mubchly, fringled, and high rags. Thank you very much. Happy 150, boys. Been watching since the Captain Marvel saga, and even though I tried to save those for my work week I've always had a good time. Well, yeah, hopefully we can make the work week a little better. Yeah. And already we have ones from this stream coming in. I'm now going to bot between. The first one is everyone enjoying Smud Boy's Bizarre Adventure. I mean, if enjoy is a word that you can use to describe it, you know. Fascinating, feels like a more. I'm still not 100% clear on how it started. What was it, Jay? What did what did the thing? So, um, the the quartering made a tweet being like, oh, I don't know who she is. She's shitting on the fans of Cowboy Bebop. Cowboy Bebop. Yeah. And one of the things that she brought up was like, oh, I'm sorry that like I don't have tits as big as the anime, right? Right. And I'm like, I think that's a fairly reasonable reason to shit on people if they're saying that. People saying that, that her tits weren't big enough. I imagine that that probably someone said that. Somebody, I could imagine somebody said it, but yeah, I can't see it being a common sentiment that people like. Yeah, because I've seen the pictures and she just doesn't really look like her. But of course. Anyway, um, Smud Boy tweets it with like, it's fine to critique the proportions of someone because anyway, sorry, I'm really my brain is fuzzy. I've just been vaccinated. And then so he like fundamentally the thing is okay. So he claims like for one thing that he never said anything about like, oh, he never said that it's okay to say the next is a bad decision because her breasts are too small. Well, like I can distinctly show you a tweet where I say to him, I don't think it's okay for like, I don't think it's a valid criticism that an actress's breasts are too small. And he says, I disagree. And I'm like, it's all like, it's just all like, okay, maybe that's not what you meant to say, but it's what you said. Maybe if the point of the character was like that she had really big mommy milkers, just big old fucking 10, you know, and if your point is strictly they are smaller than they are in the original content, therefore adapted differently from what they were or whatever. It's just like, I guess you can say that. So the second you say like that's a flaw, we'll be like, uh, we're in. And he kept saying shit like acting is optional when compared to like looking like the character. And the thing is the example he used as well was like, he never, he never said like fucking ages, he never said, well, it's not like boobs, you know, that doesn't really matter. But like, you know, you got to look at at least something like the character like he kept saying like, I kept saying like, so it's okay for like, see things okay for someone to be like critiquing someone because their boobs too small. And he's just like, well, yeah. But then he will always want to say, I never said anything about boobs. I'm like, yeah, you never said anything yourself about boobs. You disagreed with people when they said that it's, that's a bad criticism. No, it's not. So it's like, it was just a while. Sounds really fun. No way. But how do they get to write? Oh yeah. So how, oh yeah. Right. That's that's the whole of the part of this. So someone brings up like, um, saying, okay, so appearance isn't that important when compared to characterization. And, uh, no, right. Uh, and they say, they just use as a classic example, just a perfectly reasonable example is like, if they cast a white guy to play Nick Fury, he would still be the same character. Right. You're like, yeah, yeah, that's true. We all in agreement that is true. I don't see, well, he'd be up to the writers, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, they could choose to, I mean, eventually they'd probably choose to write him differently because he's got a different actor playing him. And they'd work off the talents of that actor specifically. But you know, to give you an example in winter soldier when the police look at him weird, I think he said, doesn't he like make a comment that, um, like he's aware that he's black sort of thing. I'd hope he's aware he's black. My point is that, um, if you had a white guy, then that dialogue might be different. But I guess that one line would have changed. Yeah. No, I'm, I'm not saying anything would absolutely at all need to change. But, um, Yeah. But if anything changed would be on the basis of character writing, not anything to do with their immutable characteristics. Yes. The thing is that you can, there are loads of ways you can take that. If you just agree and be like, well, yeah, no, the character wouldn't change. But like, um, his appearance is still important aspect of the work or whatever. You know, there are loads of places you can take that if you want to, if you want to still argue that, no, appearance is really important. It's really important to get it spot on or it's, it's like, it's a bad, it's a flaw. If you don't, instead, he just, uh, he responds to this person saying, you know, Nick Fury would be, um, same character if he was white. He goes, hmm, interesting. So you think that a person's, well, hang on, let me find a quote. Oh, you wouldn't, you wouldn't want a straw man's money. No, you wouldn't want to, you wouldn't want to get this wrong. No, you wouldn't want to accidentally assume he said something far better than what he actually said. Let's have a look here. Um, these 150 super jack catchups are going great. Shut up, rags. Where's it gone? Can't find it. Oh yeah. Okay. Here it is. So he said, uh, in response, he said, so a character's race says nothing about their behavior. No. Okay. Then we're done. Oh, that's so, that's not something you say on Twitter.com or anywhere. It's not something you say anywhere. It's just in the world. Oh no, don't say that. That's one of those you desperately like explain what you mean, explain what you mean to make it better than what you just said. That sure was a weird auto-correct your phone did there. He kept bringing stuff up about culture and he's like, he kept bringing up stuff like, well, you know, Italian people, they speak Italian. So that's, you know, something like, well, okay. So there are people who are Italian who are different races. There are people who aren't one who speak Italian. Yeah, Italian is not a race. Italian is a nationality. He contradicts himself so many times is then he's like saying, well, you know, it's culture. It's not specifically race. But then he was like, you know, but race, you know, like you've got to have, I mean, but someone's race does say stuff about the behavior. No, no, no, it doesn't. He's like, he can't separate. But then, then there's the final part, the quote. This is the final quote as well. So that last tweet had 130 quote tweets, but I wouldn't found it. So this one also has a hundred quote tweets. Someone says to him, actually say this to someone else, but he's also in the conversation. They say, you can't use race as a hint of someone's character, let alone in a work of fiction. Platonic, I'm gonna laugh my ass off at platonic idealism as a justification for random bigotry on the internet XD, right? To which smud boy responds to this person saying, you can't use race as a hint of someone's character. He says, boy, you're going to love the IQ test results when grouped by race. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You need the Mario death sound. No, no, it's smud. Yeah. No. Stoffed. Oh, wow. That's the short version of the smud boy, Sagae. He went after a lot of different stuff as well and that, but you know, that's the, that's the highlights, I think. Oh, you upset me. Bring it in really to get out that's that so easily. Oh, and all I think I responded to with the, that first one was feels cringe, man. It's the expression for that. Well, is it worth mentioning why in case there are some further, further to a particular team of people in chat? I guarantee you there's at least one person in chat right now listening to us. Like, so what the truth here? Is that what you guys are saying? So the first point is why are you bringing up these statistics would be will always be the first question. Like, well, we have why in that context, he was bringing up specifically to prove that it makes a difference to your character. Yeah, which is that's the big bad right there. You don't meant to do that. That's what we call prejudice. Yeah. So it's it's the thing that I thought we all agreed is like not right. But yeah, there's always the question of why did you bring that up? But also, you don't want to open up that can of worms. No. You start trying to judge people based on their immutable characteristics, based on the statistical breakdown of what certain groups more often do. Like, you just ask, you know, I do that. Yeah, you're going to find some part that you don't like. Oh, yes. Yes, absolutely. Plus, it's way more complicated than you think it is. It's absolutely more complicated, because there's all these other factors that are pretty much absolutely more relevant than the immutable characteristics of people, which they can't control or change. And they're relevant. Someone actually super chat asking why it's not a good thing to say. Okay. Oh, no. That was your answer. Well, don't do it. Don't bring it up. Yeah. Plus, even if it was true, like, it doesn't change who they are or how you should value them as a person. Absolutely. Oh, it's not even relevant. What if it turned out that your five favorite people in the world were all actually stupider than five people you despise, like IQ-wise? So what does that mean to you? Yeah. Yeah. It turns out they're all black, too. Oh, no. Right, exactly. Yeah, like in your life, it is not very meaningful to you what people's IQ is. It just isn't. No. I would like smart boys to take an IQ test. Well, again, it always feels like that awkward thing where it's like, man, it's just fucking cringe. And yeah, if you go down that road too hard, you'll stop being like, hey, statistically, blah, blah, blah, they're full, blah, blah, blah. And you're like, no, stop. Don't conclude. Statistically, you will eventually find a statistic that isn't too flattering for your arbitrarily chosen group. And so yeah. And these are all arbitrary, like, distinctions. I mean, so like, smart boy is a man, right? So do you want to bring up some, some man crime statistics? Right, exactly. Man statistics for like just violent crimes. Whoa, you know, men, it's- Get rid of all the men. Violet crime will go down significantly. I'm sure this, I'm sure there's someone like saying in chat as well, like, or, you know, your straw men explained, boy, he didn't actually say that, like, we need to act on these statistics. Like, yeah, we know, we know he didn't say that. I know he didn't say that. But why would you bring it up? If it's just like, what, do you want us to just chew over these numbers? Just think about it amongst yourselves. Again, I feel like we have the context. Like, what's the difference between a person who is, his black and isn't, or different skin colors? And you're like, oh, well, nothing necessarily. And then they go like, oh yeah, well, you should look at the statistics. Like, wow. Why would I look at it? Why? Why? That's, yeah, that's some, you don't want to go down that road. Okay, kind of, the thing is, he kept bringing stuff up like, well, you know, race indicates culture, and it's not a one-to-one relationship with culture, but it does indicate it. And you're like, well, okay, so what you're arguing there for is that culture determines stuff about your behavior. And the best you could do with this statement is to be like, if you see someone who looks Hispanic, you could, maybe they're more likely to have Hispanic culture? Well, yeah, you know, like if you see someone. It's still not useful enough, is it? Like, yeah, that's like the most you could possibly do with it. Like if you were gambling on a weird gambling game or whatever. That's the big thing. You don't know, because you don't know who they are. Well, yeah, then when you take the argument, I mean, first of all, he also like, while saying that he also, at the same time, disagreed with people saying, well, you know, it doesn't inherently change a behavior. And he's like, well, no. But then he would say stuff like, well, you know, it doesn't, he contradicted himself a lot, essentially. He disagreed with people who seemed to agree with him. Well, who agreed with like the tame version of what he was saying, but not with the less tame version. And then, oh, there was something else as well. Hang on. Brain, brain engage. Ah, fuck. Um, well, yes. So, okay, the reason he was bringing this up was he was arguing that it's important to get a character's race right when you're adapting a work of fiction. And it's like, well, no, that's not how that works. Like, because the implication is, well, a white-nick fury wouldn't have done that. Well, yeah, those are the great examples of like, it's like, what? If you panic about a certain character being adapted with the wrong race, it's like, you could call that a concern in terms of how faithful it's going to be. But at the same time, it's like, this could still be the best adaptation of this character for all we know. Yeah, it's entirely possible. I guess it depends on your context, right? Like, if you were adapting, like, I guess it always feels like, what do you, what do you, but it's all in text, isn't it? Like, if you're telling a story that's meant to be about like a black guy living in, I don't know, like 1960s America and having issues, but he's white. It's like, I don't understand. You just be confused, right? You, like, you wouldn't understand what's happening. It's a weird adaptation argument or it would be an internal consistency argument. Yeah, there are always situations where whatever actually the character could be important to a story that they're in. And like, you know, when you're working with, when you're working with like, imagine a sci-fi set like, 10,000 years in the future, where like, okay, someone's race at that point is going to be based on entirely different culture to what we have today. So like, literally nothing will apply and people will still make these same arguments, right? No, there are no, like, pre-understood notions about like, who, what color comes from, like, what country's as a general rule, but not as an, like an inherent rule. You don't know. That's the, that's the big thing is you don't actually know. You don't know where they're from. People made these complaints about the Force Awakens. It's like, Black Storm Trooper. I don't remember what the complaints were specifically now. I'm like, man, literally a completely like, a completely divorced from Earth culture. Like, there's no, I don't even know, like, I don't even know. You have no point of reference to, yeah, there's no point of reference to that. I guess if like, if Star Wars was just set on Earth, like 30 years from now, then maybe you could argue that like, oh yeah, Finn should have experiences like, as a Black person living on Earth, because that, you know, whatever, there are experiences that you have as a certain race, that you can have as other races, but like, you know, when it's completely divorced setting, there are literally no... At that point, you have to develop your own rules for that universe. Yeah, I would say... You have to figure out what is the culture of this world. Do we care, do people in this world care about the races of species, or do they just care about species, you know? Yeah, as far as, as far as we can tell in Star Wars, people do not care about like, your human, like, skin color. It seems to be completely irrelevant in the Star Wars universe, which makes sense to me. Like, I imagine that if we got to the point with aliens, that would, that would start to become the thing we wouldn't care about. Someone said, uh, so what's your opinion on Black Anberlin then? That's hilarious that they chose to do that. Black Anberlin? Yeah, that's a thing they did in, uh, over in Britain. It's Black An... Anberlin is like, um... Oh, Anberlin! Oh, the historical thing, I remember that, yeah. So it's hilarious to make it Black. At the same time, a story could still be good. Like, really good. It could still be a good story, and it's just fucking weird. It wouldn't be, it wouldn't be historically accurate. It would be, it would be weird. Yeah, so she's a real person who was white. At the same time, I don't know enough about that period of British history to be able to tell you that, uh, Henry VIII would not have married a Black person and that this could never have happened. Yeah, if you could have complications like that, yeah. Like, I don't, I don't know enough about the history of that period to be able to say the story wouldn't have gone the same way if she was, if she was Black. I mean, I assume there would have been certain differences to how stuff would have gone because I don't imagine that no one cared in any way, right? Mm-hmm. But uh... At that period in time, yeah, no way. Like, that wouldn't have been... But again, it is the, that has to be the adaptation or like, alt history or just difference, you know, world, different things. Yeah, like, if they wanted to tell the same story but simultaneously say, well, Black and White makes no difference at that point in their version, like, everybody was, you know, all in harmony, skin color-wise, then you can still... There's gonna be a lot of good points to gain from that storyline, even if you remove the race element. I feel like if we don't look at it like that, then a lot of alt history gets, like... Absolutely, yeah. ...what we do with that. What happens with Wolfenstein and Inglorious Bust and a whole host of stories? With a, with a Jeb piled on that one, for me, I swear to God, like... We are, yes, Jeb piled on adaptation, old history and historical... We're trying to rescue Inglorious Bastards from you crazy people. We don't need to kill it. Yeah, but I don't want to live in the world wearing Glorious Bastards as flawed because it's not accurate to what happened in history. Like, that's, I don't like that. Same for once upon a time in Hollywood too. Yes, and yeah, a lot of stories. Assassin's Creed. So here's the thing, I want to see chat. I want to see how many people are mad about Black Anne Boleyn or people who think that that shouldn't have been done, right? I want to see, like, a little wand in chat if you think that that's, that was a bad thing to do. All right, okay, let's give them a second to type. Oh, okay. I mean, what, don't you want reasons though? Like, probably... Also, like, no, no, I'm just like... I mean, so if you think that that's, I don't know, gonna result in a bad work. And like a two if you think, no, that's fine. Right, I mean... I mean, I don't even know if I would describe it as fine. It is super fucking weird. I don't know the... Yeah, I hate it. Right, here's the thing. People who said wand in chat, I now want to see you put, like, an A or a B in the chat. Put an A if you've seen this piece of work and a B if you've not. I doubt any of them have seen it. Well, yeah, because it's like, man, that could be... Like, this could literally just be an alt history story. This could be so many fucking things. I'm seeing a few Bs. I haven't seen a decent number of Bs. I can't remember which one I said was which. I think you said A was you've watched it and B isn't you've watched, is that you haven't watched it. No, sorry, A is you haven't watched it, B is you've watched it, I think. Is that a thing people watch this? Wait, am I... No, someone in the chat, was it... What was it? Was it A that you haven't watched it or B that you have? And B that you... Oh my God. Someone said, imagine making Martin Luther King white. Okay, so the difference there is that his race was very important to like... Imagine the story you're telling related to Martin Luther King is gonna be about his civil rights. He was really a pathetic white person who... Make it like a crossover between MLK and the jerk. What's the jerk? The movie with the... What's his name? I forget his name. He did the Steve Martin. Oh yeah. Is that his name? The comedian? That's a funny movie. He was raised by black people, but he was a white guy. By the way, the chat's clarified, B meant you hadn't seen it, so most people hadn't seen it. Right. So it was in like... There are so many things that that could be. Also, I mean... Well, yeah, that's an interesting thought, isn't it? It could be great and you wouldn't know it, right? And yeah, that person's like saying something about Martin Luther King. He's like, yeah, Amberlynn, correct me if I'm wrong on this. I studied her when I was a child in like a unit in school. I don't know much about Amberlynn, but I do not, to my understanding, believe that it's culturally significant that she was a white person. I can't confirm that. I don't remember. Well, what time was she alive in what era? When was Henry VIII a thing? Wasn't he like the 17th century? Sorry, was he... He was 18th century, right? So the 1700s, that... No, I thought... I think he was earlier than that. I think he was the 1400s, I want to say. 1500s? Yeah, early 1500s. People are saying... No, people are saying... Okay, so apparently Henry was... I would just count a lot! ...1500s. So yeah, 1500s. Okay, so it was a lot earlier than I thought. Jeez. I just knew that he was Queen Elizabeth I's father and that she was on the throne at the time of Shakespeare and Shakespeare was 1500s. That was my logic called adduction. Right. Nice deduction, bruh. Thank you. Got more super chats in than we've managed to catch up on. Well, we do, yeah. You know, I find the conversation interrestarone and just where a line's drawn exactly, you know? I saw someone say the way that they look like in terms of the character is going to be the most important thing for adaptation. I was like, I would... If I had to break it into two brackets they will look just like them or they will be just like them. The comparison to make would be Resident Evil movie that they have Leon in it. He looks pretty good, as does a lot of the stuff in the Paul W.S. Anderson movies in terms of comparison to the game, but they have nothing to do with the games at all. And so is that even worth it? Like, what? I would say that it is an aesthetic thing, which is... that's fine. But if I was more interested in an adaptation, I wanted it to be more like the thing I liked. I'd care a lot more that it was like that substantially. I assume that I'm investing the character because of the character, not because I really like the way they look. Yeah, because it's something that looks like them and has their name. I mean, yeah, you know, like they're all Mandalorian fans. Yeah, but they're dumb. Jay, can't say that. It's very rude. Just make Lincoln black. I mean, uh... Do it. That's the... I want to see that actually. He had a steam draft career before he became president. MC Lincoln. Yeah, he had an illustrious career. Visuals matter in a visual medium, for fuck's sake. Man, remember when Fringy said visuals don't matter in a visual medium? And then Jay agreed and Rags agreed and I agreed. What? It's really... I always get a bit fr... Because I occasionally see like, oh, that's a straw man thing. It's like, so first of all, like when we're talking about a subject and I'm not addressing any one specific argument directly, it's not a straw man. I'm bringing up a point and then trying to repeat that specific... But also, man, I'm charitability right there. None of us said it. So I'm like, I just... I don't take it seriously. I'm like, you have fun with whatever you're... You're fighting ghosts over there. What have you invented that fight expectors, all right? Die, Spector. That sounds like the kind of person who would unironically argue that like they forgot to put color in Shindler's list. What do you mean? They haven't read. I thought it was just like budgetary concerns, like Wizard of Oz. Well, the technology wasn't available yet in 1994, 1993, 23, I think it was three. You've got to get those jokes accurate, right? What if you... What if like... So what if someone has different visual priorities to you? What if someone... What if someone thinks... So what if someone literally thinks they've cast the most visually appealing person to play them? They look different from the adaptation, you know, the thing they're adapting. Well, think about the examples we actually have. A lot of superhero stuff, when it gets adapted, they change the costumes because they think the costumes look too silly. X-Men. Yeah. So that's not visuals not mattering. That's visuals being treated with different sensibilities to yours. In this universe, yeah. And so... And what if we all agreed on it? What if we're like, yeah, that thing does actually pretty goofy? So I'm glad they changed it to this. It's like, what happens then? That was that was bad. That was not faithful to the adaptation, right? And someone in the chat mentioned they can't claim to be historically accurate. That's like, yeah, sure. I don't think many movies do. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Okay, okay, okay. So did the Black Anne Boleyn show go this is historically accurate and Boleyn was Black? Well, I feel like this is... Because Battlefield V annoyed the hell out of me. Like, I'm not going to lie. That pissed me off. You're not going to lie at all. Yeah. What did they do in Battlefield V? What didn't they do in Battlefield V? I bought British women with like a prosthetic arm on the battlefield in the Netherlands. It's like, dude, this is... So the problem there is it's like, so could you criticize that objectively in terms of this game? It's like, no, it's just, I don't like that. I actually do like it when you're trying to be accurate in like a story. If they committed to it, you'd probably be okay with it. If it was like a Wolfenstein. If it was an old history. Yeah. If it was full old history. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. If it was full old history and we were just doing a totally different thing, then I think it would set at the time like I'd be totally cool with that. But like, you're almost trying to tread this line where it's like, no, we're being authentic. It's like, hmm, that's interesting. Plus a lot of people really wanted a World War II Battlefield game again. And they were like, they felt like and reasonably so that it was kind of being ruined. Like you finally went back to World War II for a Battlefield game. That doesn't the roots of the series. And it's like, what the fuck is this? Well, and I remember the thing is, because people are battlefields not realistic in terms of its physics and gameplay. It's like, now I think it was something that I like total biscuit said there's like a difference between realism and authenticity. Realism is trying very hard to directly emulate a particular environment this game. Yeah. Like you're trying the guns are realistic. Sounds very realistic. And that authentic is it feels like it's real. But yeah, I don't feel the one's a great example. It's very authentic. Yeah. It's not realistic, but it's authenticity. Authenticity is just a big subjective category then. Yeah. I would say that you oh, well, I would say that there's definitely a lot of objective statements you can make about authenticity when it comes to the items inside of it. And when those items did or did not exist. And oh, yeah, yeah. Of course, like what is like, is it like this place? Was there a battle? Isn't that a question of realism then? And you have to subject to what parts of realism now realism would be more the application. So for instance, in battlefield one, there are prototype weapons that were never actually used in the war. However, the at least one did exist and was it did exist on the earth during that time. It is authentic to the time period that it exists. But it's not realistic. It is not realistic to see it and to use it in battles and stuff like that. So like you're capturing, you're capturing something from that period of time and representing it in a way that is true to what it was. But you're not making a meaningful effort to like, because battlefield one was realistic. The gameplay would be all right, you go on over the top and then you run over the top and you just get shot and killed. Like that would be the or that would be the realistic battlefield World War One. Sometimes, yeah. Game. Whereas this is it would just be all artillery and yes, yeah. We're trying to evoke the vibe or the atmosphere, the feeling of this particular place and these weapons and these people. But this is not, we're not trying to be realistic. You don't have to worry about weapons jamming. You don't have to worry about being deaf because it's so loud that you can't hear anything. They would do things like how they balance bayonet charges as a mechanic and cavalry. And there's a lot of really nifty stuff. But I would say it's pretty authentic, but it's not at all realistic. Yeah. And so basically all I was saying on that point is I just didn't like that choice for Battlefield 5. I didn't like it. Which is, I feel like that's a different thing to say than it's like, well, this is bad. It's like, well, they can do this if they want and it could have great art assets and it could work totally fine. It's like, that's not what I wanted from Battlefield 5. See, someone said, if you make an historically based drama, historical accuracy would be a requirement. It's like, what about old history? The whole genre. Historically based. So there are always going to be things that are not historically accurate and you're historical drama. Yeah. And then some people would be like, well, you got to get the important things right. And then it's like, well, what if I'm deliberately changing the important things because I want to explore what would happen? I'm doing a what if, a Marvel's what if, Hitler didn't die. I feel like you could apply it to things like- What if T'Challa convinced Hitler that Holocaust wasn't the answer? I mean, you could apply it to things like, well, why are all these Romans speaking English? They didn't speak English. They should be speaking Latin. Why are they speaking English? That's not historically accurate. And be like, well, that's a language barrier. It's like, ah, so there are reasons why you would make changes then, depending on what objective you have. Yeah, but that's just a practical- Like, some people understand what the thing said. Well, like I mentioned, like it may be the thing. Well, no, no. I wouldn't say that it's practical in a certain sense. But I mean, there are certain, I'm pretty sure there is like a German show that is set in that period where like the Germans are speaking German, but the Italians are speaking Latin instead of German. I believe that exists. Well, it serves a particular practical purpose, is my point, to translate. Yeah, sure, definitely. And the same way that- Okay, so if you had like a group doing a historical drama about Amberlynn, and they don't have like, they're like, they're a very limited team. They're a very small group of people. Three hyper cringe comments in a row, I have to address. Holy shit. If you make an historical drama, you should keep it historically accurate. But what if it wasn't a historical drama? Come on, Molo, that's another genre. So keep everything the same. Everything. To real life, except one thing. Is it binary? It can only be historically accurate or not. And therefore, as soon as you are slightly inaccurate, you are no longer an historical drama. What does that even mean? I feel like a good example would be, what if you tell a World War II story where the main character didn't necessarily exist, that they are in a place where a bunch of other people- Well, not a historical drama anymore. Like, there's a fucking dumbass way to do it, and you know so. Then you go, it's so fun to hear Molo advocate for the new Star Wars trilogy. Where are you? What planet are you on? It's not authentic. It's not historically accurate. I heard the same- I remember the same stuff when we were talking about the adaptation thing, where we were talking about the changes you make and people were like, oh, so you're okay with the new Lord of the Rings? It's like, well, that show could be bad, but not for the reasons you're giving. And then, to tip it all off, then it's not a historically based drama, is it, Molo? Okay, I guess Inglourious Bastards isn't a drama. I'm glad we've achieved this. It's not historically based. I love this genre. Well, I was about to say, Inglourious Bastards has to be historically based. There's nothing else you could call it, and it's a drama. But rip that because it's not 100% accurate. Stupid standard. Aston's Creed isn't historical drama, even though it is all about history. Like, I know there's a lot of Wombo brains in chat about this topic, and we have to deal with them every once in a while, but like, my God, guys, you gotta get, you gotta open up the brain tubes on this one. We're so like, 1917. Those events didn't literally happen, but it's still a historical drama. Absolutely, and this is the thing, most of us don't even know what the inaccuracies are in a lot of movies that really do it well. Like, you know, Save and Private Ryan, it's like, you're gonna need someone to tell you what the fucking inaccuracies are. No, no, no, no. Historical drama with mistakes isn't an old history drama. What if they aren't mistakes? What if they were on purpose? I don't think they accidentally cast a black person to play. I don't think they accidentally killed Hitler in Glorious Bastards. These were conscious decisions that were made. And like, what does it even matter if we're changing the definitions? The genre that you were in does not define how good or bad you are is a story. That's true. I hate genre talk. It doesn't matter. It does not matter whether you say it's old history or it's historical drama. It doesn't change whether or not it is actually good. Whether or not you like it, whether or not you would want to watch it because it's historically accurate or not, totally different. That's totally fine. Just say you don't like it. That's fine. Yeah, and what I'm trying to put out here because the people trying to like obviously point out to me is like, well then, well, that's the difference between old history and historical drama. I'm like, you decide this once you are told the details. Most, if not all, movies that are historical based are going to have to be considered old history now because I have no idea what the line is for historical inaccuracy of which all of these films will have. What you'll find is most of them do it because of the fact that the story doesn't work if they stick to the accuracies for pacing reasons or for the events like as they unfold just don't like run properly or different people in different places. What does it even matter if we're changing the definitions? Well done, Fringer, that was stupid. I don't even know what you're responding to. The point is that whatever you define it as being doesn't change what it is in terms of its quality. Like, if you were looking at Star Wars, you're like, that's science fiction. No, that's science fantasy. No, that's just pure fantasy. What difference does it make meaningfully to your experience of watching it? Yeah. Holy shit. Well, here's the thing. If they call it historical drama, then they get to say it's bad because this thing isn't inaccurate to history. Whereas with old history, they don't get to say that. I don't think... They want to be able to call it bad. I don't think they'll be happy, though, because if we simply say the Ambulin thing, it's like all you can say about that is it's old history. They'd be like, well, no, it's bad, though. Can you be like, ah. And then at that point, it's like, ah, okay. You just don't like it. That's fine. It's the thing I want to see. I love old history stuff. It's fun. I like old history a lot, yeah. I can hop on the stream, expect to spend like half an hour defending the perspective Black Ambulin. Yeah, I want to see the old history where Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. Yeah, that it doesn't matter. Ray can use the Force to heal. You are so lost. You've like, you've ran off into the woods. Where do you think you are? What is happening? The equivalent with Star Wars is if someone adapted it into a TV show and redid it all, and then said everyone could use Force heal. There's nothing that we would complain about if that was a constant. That'd be fine. So what you're talking about there is internal consistency with itself. So like in one scene, Anbulin was Black, and then in the next scene, she was White. That would be the equivalent there. He's transracial. I'm glad that you guys figured out what that argument was, because like I couldn't have done, I couldn't have spotted the connection there. Feels weird because like we've been advocating for this for so long, like internal consistency. But they're like, if you don't respect everything that has happened in history, then that's bad. And I'm just sitting here like, man, so many fucking movies getting shat on without them realizing it. Bad standard. Go away. Nobody likes you. Yeah, I'm just a radical. I'd be like, if someone was like, they're going to make the Emperor Woman in the new Star Wars TV show adaptation, I'd be like, all right, see how it goes. Let's see how it goes. But fundamentally people like, I see like a book. I think just the fucking world has been poisoned on this shit. Everyone at this point sees a change to like a character's race or gender as like a political move. When we lived in a world without any of that context, like I don't think anyone would give a shit. I don't think anyone would like, like you live in like, you know, we have like a just cultural reset. And someone's like, yeah, I'm making, and you don't have like, you know, you don't have any of the, any of the existing biases that you go into, like some, some artists that, you know, you think, oh, they've done some good work before. It's like, yeah, I'm doing a Star Wars remake with Empress Palpatine. You wouldn't care. Like, and the only, like the, like the closest reason that you would care is like, oh, I don't like, maybe it's, it might feel different if Palpatine is a woman. Like that's the extent that you, that it will go. Someone in chat just said, Jay is the leftist. How did they figure that out? I thought you kept that secret. Well, it's like defined leftist. Yeah, that's true. Social plot on your hat. I think, I think my favorite part was how just before that same person said, you just avoided the whole thing with straw man. I'm out from this stupidity. Straw man is the most oversight and logical fallacy. Yeah, you just free just as you said that. I just read someone say, nice straw man wall and no one said historical fiction is bad. It's like, dude. What? So suddenly enough, there's going to be people who say that. 100%. Any, but any kind of historical fiction is bad because it takes away from the real events. Someone can make that argument. There's no way that that's not a thing. So Jay is left handed. Oh, no. Calm down. Jay, get the fuck out of here. Now, see, someone else is Jay is a deconstructionist. Can you, can you define that for me scapegoat? Can you, can you deconstruct that for me? Well, I mean, Can you deconstruct that for me? And explore what it truly means to be a deconstructionist. Yes. Yeah. Nice straw man. Let me follow it up with an obvious straw man. That's how it feels. Please stop. Please stop using straw man. I implore you. Stop. It's so over-sided. There are so many to, like, if you, here's a good clarifying one. If you ask someone a question and you don't like that question because it makes it difficult for you to answer, that's not the straw man. That's just a good question. Yeah. On the, on the thought of, if only there was less cringe in terms of, especially statements from like writers and directors making it clear exactly what their goals are and then we see the results and we're like, you, if only we're in a world where we had more examples of Nick Fury, we're just like, oh, the content you really like, that's actually an annotation where the character was race swapped slash gender swapped slash whatever. And it turns out it all worked just fine. Everyone was fine with it. And you're like, oh, shit. Okay, cool. So it is like, we had loads of good examples of that. We'd be much further along in this conversation, but we're still stuck all the way back at like, the content will automatically be boycotted the second they don't adapt it like faithfully, which sucks. Well, I'll, I'll throw my bone a bit. I will say that the, like, I totally understand why people instantly are super like jaded and cynical about all these things because of how like the, the obvious political messaging that companies and stuff do when they do stuff like this. Yeah. So it makes them reasonably believe that quality isn't the key. So when we see stuff like this happening, we think, oh, well, you're just doing it for political reasons, not because of an actual passion. And you're not putting, you know, quality first. You're trying to put messaging first. So what I said at the beginning of the whole thing was if only we weren't in the world we're in, where it's so clear that they do it all for those reasons. You know. So that's, yeah. It's, it's, yeah, I, I think it's just, it's just, I hate this kind of like landscape. Like it's so divisive and shit. Abraham Lincoln, the vampire hunter was a documentary. The thing, um, most if not all movies, I don't think they would be qualified as like in any way, like a documentary. They can be educational for sure, but like, man, because they're movies, they change a lot about the thing that they're covering. Isn't an interesting part though about, even if you're presenting a documentary, the information you choose to present, changes people's perception of that particular event. Like I feel like the easy one would be if you played a wildlife documentary and you play really serene music to like a polar bear lighting waste to a seal. It's like, that gives a different interpretation than if you played really evil ominous music, despite the fact that it is entirely neutral in terms of like the process that's happening. Like a morality thing. And that applies to, yeah, exactly. And that, it's the whole idea of like your interpretation is what makes it good or bad. It's a difference like on a flat level. But these are the decisions that need to be made when you're creating a documentary. You've got to present something and kind of the same with the story as well that's based in history. Whose POV are you telling it from? Are you telling it from like the commanders or the soldiers or the civilians and from which country in which, what do they think about this particular issue? There's a whole lot that sort of factors into how people will perceive the messaging of that story. But you have to make these decisions, even if you're trying to do something that's historically accurate. The POV that you present it from will change how people interpret the clinical facts. It's kind of the same with like statistics. Again, the statistics are true, but which ones you're looking at, how you frame them, all of these affect people's interpretations of those statistics. Someone said race is a big thing to change that really depends on the context in which you're changing, like it depends on the character and the story as well. Yeah, because surely people would have said it's going to change a lot to, I don't know, theoretically, what if Wolverine was black? I feel like you could keep everything the same for the most part. Yeah, it's like what if Nick Fury was white or Indian or Asian? It's like, oh, same story pretty much. Well, I mean, or the interesting one, what if you had a story where there are people of different races, but you just totally flip them backwards? Like everything is just flipped. The white people are black and the black people are white in this historical drama, and then it just plays out exactly the same and you just change the words out. Yeah, so like it really, I mean, so like, yes, like if you wrote Black Hitler, then yeah, you've got to, that's a big thing that you've changed and you probably need to account for that in your story. If he was the only black person. Oh, no. Oh, no, chat. You forget that people don't care about pacing characters or plot. What matters is theme and the theme is history. Now, I hope that you're like memeing. I hope that you're memeing. I hope you're memeing because people say the same thing about TLJ. All right. People say the same exact thing. It's about the theme, the internal consistency, the plot and the characters. That's not, it's what matters is the message that you're trying to get across. So I hope that you were just like joking and you didn't mean that. Well, if Nick Fury was white and had a similar personality, yes. Yeah, so yeah, if he was, if he had a different personality, then that would be the change. That would be different. That would be different, like, yeah. It's like, at that point, it would still be a big change if you didn't change his race. It's like, if you changed, if you changed someone's race, it's a big change. Well, what if it isn't a big change? Well, if you change something else, big it is. Yeah, I disagree. Isn't, wait, somebody brought up Hamilton as an example. What exactly is the deal with Hamilton? Isn't Hamilton like a very good example of this exact thing at play? It's like a really... Yeah, everyone's black, I guess. Well, I guess that's the interesting thing, right? It's like, I always hear that that musical is excellent just from all of the production standpoint, the acting, the music and everything. It's not historically accurate, though. Yeah, you know, they didn't actually sing in history like that? Oh, or rap? Yeah, they did. Or rap musical? They absolutely did. They, the founding fathers had musicals going on all the time. Yeah. You know, the original Constitution was written in verse. It rhymes, actually. I like the idea that while they were writing it and trying to figure out how to amend it and everything that was singing as well, it's like, should we include this specific line? It's like, can you rewrite that? And it's all in song. It was like, it'd be really amusing. I've just seen a chat that's like, I don't, I feel like this person is trying to satirize something, but I don't understand, I don't understand what angle you're coming from. What? Small brain, Jay. So they say, Jay, it's 2021, mate. The Black Hitler movie could happen. But Brie Larson and Brie Larson would be cast to play Hitler. Brie Larson plays Black Hitler. She plays a Black female Hitler? Do it. Man, let's, uh, again, that feels like in an S film discourse. Yeah, that's a lot of the trailer. Brie Larson is Black Hitler. I would probably watch that film. I would, I would watch the shit out of that. I don't care how bad it's, 10 out of 10. Don't even need to see it. That's going to be a funny, bad film. Like, it's a Zen out of Zen. There's no way that that isn't just going to be an engaging experience in some way. It's like I in Sky. Have anyone here seen I in Sky? I have not. Which one? Who's in there? Um, is it Jude Law? Who's in it? Um, maybe. Uh, let's see. It's the one about Nazis living under the moon. Oh, I have not seen. Also, it's a historical film. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's a historical film. I in Sky. I remember just seeing the trailer for it. I'm thinking whatever kind, however this film ends up going, this is going to be a thoroughly engaging watch because you just see the trailer and it's like, it starts, it's like the main character. It's like the Sarah Palin stand in. And it's like, and she's talking about how there are Nazis living on the moon. And then it cuts to like Nazi UFOs coming down to earth from the moon. And like, I don't care what actually happens in this film, it's going to be entertaining. Like, there's no, there's no way I could get to the end of this film and go, well, that was boring. Oh, someone. I think there's a, uh, all right, all right. I'm thinking of Sky Captain the Wild Tomorrow. That's true. Ah, yeah. That was a film. I wonder if it's, it's, what were they, what were they saying about that film? Just that that's what I was thinking of and they're right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That might be worth a rewatch someday. It's a weird one, but sure. It's an odd one. That's why. That's the thing. You've got movies. Yes. But I am Sky. That sounds like a, that sounds like a ride. Is any of the famous people in that? I don't think so. All right, let's have a look. That's the show. I don't think any famous people wanted to touch that, honestly. That could be any fat movies right there. I am Sky. Well, some people brought up the black Superman that are on their way. And it's like, the thing is, if they 100% adapted your favorite Superman story, but only changed the skin color and the skin color, obviously, of the cans, I guess at that point, like, I could still work, right? I mean, is it secret that the cans adopted him? Because like, then... Oh, you're right. Yeah, it wouldn't matter if the cans are white or black. True. Then again, oh well. I mean, I guess you could say, like, yeah, it might be hard for them to explain it if... He's adopted. Fuck it. We could just make him black, whatever. It helps my point, I think, if they're black as well. That's really Superman. No, the analogy is what if it was just Clark Kent. Like, everything you know to be Clark Kent's characteristics are in this character, except he's also black, because the problem is, if you think that's an impossibility or whatever, it's like we get into dangerous territory. Mm-hmm. Um, because, you know, it could... That is not a different character. That is a different actor playing the same character, and like, unless you actually start bringing in things where, like, his race impacts him in his life. No, we're not talking about Val'zot, we're talking about literally it's Clark Kent, and it's an adaptive-perfect adapt, kind of all-star Superman or something, but... I haven't even made a statement as to whether or not, because it sounds to me then that their conclusion is, okay, yes, it would be good, but he's not Clark Kent, which gets back to the whole Spider-Man shit, so I'm just like, I don't know. Ah. So that's an arbitrary line you're drawing. I feel like that doesn't... What if... That's almost a different conversation, though. That's the adaptation stuff versus the whether or not you can race swap. It's like, okay, okay, so what if... What if he's not Black, he's blonde, right? Superman is a blonde in the comics. Is he still... Or is he still... Or does that not matter? Yeah, that's... Okay, what if he's 5'7"? What if he's got no teeth? Does that matter? He's got dentures. He has super guns. He has super guns. It's never mentioned in the film, it's just the actor playing him has no teeth, and you can sort of see it in a couple of shots. This is the thing, we'll never be able to fucking have these conversations because that movie's probably gonna be bad anyway, right? It's probably gonna be poorly written regardless. And... What is this film? It's JJ Abrams' is making a Black Superman movie, as far as I know. Which I believe it's meant to be not Val Zod or whatever. Yeah, there's also Val Zod coming out. Yes, on the HBO Max, I think that's Michael B. Jordan attached to it. Imagine telling Black people that Blackness isn't a part of them. Man, is that... No, part of them... It's... Yeah. What are you... I... You're... I'm not even sure what I'm meant to do with that. Like... You should tell Black people just the same as every other race that the race doesn't define who they are. They do. Why would... Are you saying that as if you don't think that there's anybody in the world who doesn't like... No, I don't know. I know. Rai, why race swap? I'm asking good faith. I agree with you. I don't... You really find a reason that you needed to do that, but if you found an incredible actor and he's just a different race, like, well... He's just the right fit, though. He does it so well. Something like that. It's true. Idris Elba is not a... A kidner. Yeah, so like... That's true. If, um... Like, if I'm casting fucking Bond and my options are... I don't know, I've got like... Fucking... Uh... Fucking... I'm blanking on the name of this actor. What's the... Lex Luthor from, uh... B.V.S. Oh, Jesse Eisenberg? Eisenberg? Yeah. Jesse... Okay, so you've got your casting Bond, and the people who are interested... Like, you know... So, well, the people who are interested in this role that you can feasibly get within your budget are Jesse Eisenberg, Michael Sarah, and like Idris Elba. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. Who are you picking? Okay, so like, I... I raise you your why race swap, like, point with, like... Why, uh, avoid doing it? Like, there's no function to... Unless it... Unless a character's race is important to that ca... Like, not only... The story that you want to tell, specifically. Yeah, to the story that you want to tell. Then there is no reason not to cast someone of a different race to play that character. Like, just play... Like, just... Just, you know... Look at all the acts that you have available. And choose the one who best suits the role. You already fell off the bird? Geez. The sand bird. How'd you manage that? In fairness, um, I'm very... I'm reading lots of chat right now. A combination of interested and disappointed. But you just said it's part of some... Not part of someone's identity? No. Yeah, so what? Okay, so being five-seven is part of your identity, but that doesn't mean that you can't, like, cast a five-seven person to play, like, a six-foot tall character. Well, I mean, I feel like a good example. Isn't Wolverine in the comics, like, five-foot-six? Hugh Jackman is six-point-six-two. Yeah. So, like, it's something that's commented on in the media a lot, is that, like, Wolverine is a short guy. So, like, being a... Like, every, like, aspect of who you are physically and, like, who you are mentally is gonna be part of your identity, but, like, you don't need a strict one-to-one to tell the same story about, like, the same kind of... Like, you know, about the same character. Because ultimately, if you're adapting something, it's not going to be literally the same person that it was before. If you're casting a different actor to, um, you know... Or if, like, let's say it's a comic and you're casting an actor to play a comic book character, it's not literally going to be the same as the comic. They're probably... I feel like... You know, unless someone was... You found, like, a perfect casting where they're an amazing actor, they capture the spirit of the character perfectly, and they look identical to how they were drawn on the page. It's gonna be something different. I find that the interseble Michael Sarra, like, Jesse Eisenberg, one interesting because it really highlights the thing. It's like, well, no, what you really want is the person who captures the essence of the character that you're creating or adapting. Like, you don't really care what they are, what they look like. In terms of, you know... Yeah, I'm sure they do. We're seeing that right now. Yeah, maybe, true. I guess it's the whole idea that the immutable characteristics matter a whole lot less than, like, whether they can actually embody the personality of that person, which I feel like that just highlights the thing, right? Holy fuck, dude. I'm all in so good faith. What if a documentary lies and provides lies as facts? Discovery did this and created political movements from it. Discovery's not... If someone's Star Trek Discovery, that's not a documentary, dude. That didn't happen. Do they mean the Discovery Channel? Oh, well, that... Discovery in the Channel. If we're talking about... That's documentary. Yeah, if we're talking about documentaries that lie to people, that's bad. So, historical dramas aren't actually documentaries. No, they're not. Well, I'll raise them. You got fucking Fargo, both the shows and the movies, that claim at the beginning, it's true when it's not. And they're doing it because it gets people more interested and more engaged to think that this stuff actually happened. Well, that sounds bad. Well, I think that's a really interesting conversation. Should we at this point assume all movies are absolutely not representative of real life in terms of... We shouldn't take anything for granted in terms of fact. And thus, they can do whatever they want in their medium. There's like a... They can say everything in here is true and they still don't have responsibility to do anything about that. Or... Is it like... You know, there's a line and they can cross it. Documentaries are absolutely... They've got a whole different set of like parameters for how... What they should be doing. But, uh, fucking movies... This is the thing, right? Some people like... Why would anyone think Inglorious Bastards actually happened? Everyone knows how Hitler died. It's like, no, they don't. Especially as time goes on, less and less people will know. And if more and more people watch that movie, and they're like, fucking hell, dude. The story of how Hitler died is insane. It's like... I mean, I guess so, but... How it goes in there. What is the thing? Like, I don't know how like fucking... Genghis Khan died. The team should remove the comma. All right, died. About Fargo, by the way, like... I find it all very interesting. And apparently the original had a comma in it. It's a real... And then comma story. But the show removed the comma. It's like, that's... So it became a lie. It's like, the thing is, it's all in universe, right? Which someone argues like that's a title credits thing. I don't know. That's why it's fiction, lol. I mean, that's... That sounds like it just bolsters our point, right? Documentaries aren't fiction. Well, they're not supposed to be. The film Downfall is great. I've heard that. I've been meaning to watch that one. Downfall is the German one, if it's the one that got memed, but it's actually like a great film. Yeah. Only over here good things about it. I mean, I feel like, surely... Isn't it like a lot of the films that get memed are just really good? Like, that's why there's to come so much like... Like the prequels. Thank you. Thank you more. It's almost like I 100% care. I'm very curious what they're responding to. Well, I imagine JJ Abrams made the best Superman story. Like the writing was just top-notch Superman, you're super consistent. Then we actually have a really difficult conversation on our hands for everybody. Imagine he's... No, it wouldn't be difficult. It'd be like, this is great. That's... And like, that's it. I think you underestimate how many people will be ignoring that film's quality for the race. Well, as in like... As in, like, do you mean it would be like a diff... The discourse would be difficult because I don't think it would be difficult for us to... Not for us. I mean, dude, the fucking conversation on No Way Home is not going to be difficult for us, but it's going to be difficult as a... as a general. I don't feel like it might be. I feel like the film's gonna be just... Wait, so when you say us, I thought you meant when we talked to each other. Yeah, yeah. So, okay, so... Yeah, if it's just an excellent film, and we're like, yeah, that was excellent. Like, none of us are gonna be tripped up by the fact he's Black Superman is what I meant. Also, oh my god, can you believe this? It's probably gonna easily be better than Man of Steel. Nah, yeah, of course it will. I don't even know how much of a maybe that is. Like, I'd put money on that. Like, Man of Steel was fucking abominable. JJ Abrams. Yeah. Zack Snyder. I believe... I believe that JJ Abrams is more... more capable of telling a sound story. Like, you know what? I believe that it absolutely could be better, but I still am very aware of JJ Abrams' ability to fail. What if it was amazing? What if it was amazing and JJ Abrams went on talking about... Yeah, this is... I feel the first film I've ever got to make that was truly my film. Oh my. You know, I got full creative control here. I wanna see that happen. I wanna see JJ Abrams' actually genius, but he's just been cut so long. That would be the thing I mentioned. Man of Steel is just awful. Well, it is funny because we get influxes right of new people every once in a while. Like, I saw it was a post of the day of like, why does EFAP crew not like Winter Soldier? And I'm like, oh, they have to go back and look at the... Nope. You can't watch the new EFAP stuff without watching the full 150 episodes, every mini and every movies to understand all the contacts. Exactly. You're no all of our hot takes. That poor soul. JJ won't finish the movie. I mean, you'll probably throw in a big cliffhanger, loads of mystery boxes, classic JJ stuff, but you know, character might just be like, a lot like we know Superman to be. You know, that'd be neat. I feel like it's just gonna be really superficial. Well, so this is the thing, refresh me. JJ, has he ever made a movie that we all consider good? There's Mission Impossible 3, okay? That's the problem. I haven't seen it so long now that I'm not sure if it... I know that Philip Seymour Hoffman's fantastic in it, but that's not really enough to say it's a good movie. So what was his break up? But he's great in basically everything, so... Yeah. He's particularly intimidating in that movie though. What else? People don't like this much, right? Is Super 8 any good? I haven't seen Super 8. I haven't seen that either. Super 8 might be worth a watch, because I mean, I saw it and it was like, I don't really remember what I thought of it to be fair, but it was glorious. I don't remember liking it. Someone said Lord of the Rings. JJ did a big there. Yeah, it's not chat-chat, that ultimately reliable source of information. Is Super 8 any good? Yeah. Someone said Super 8 was okay. You wouldn't lie to us, chat, would you? Yeah. Are they gonna watch JJ's work after the Star Wars sequels? That's very fair. Yeah, no, this is the thing. Rise of Skywalker was possibly his worst film ever. That's pretty fair, right? Well, I guess unless you think TFA was worse. Unless, I mean, I'd have to re-watch the Star Trek films he's done. Oh, good point, yeah. I think Into Darkness was the one that people hated the most out of the three, right? I've always heard that. I don't think he directed the third one. I've heard the third one is the best. That's what I've heard. That's what I've heard as well. He didn't make it, so that's interesting. I could have sworn like the first one. A lot of Trek fans will just be like, but the second one was like it actually pissed people off. Well, here's the thing, because the Star Trek movies are a great example of the adaptation argument, because for me, they really do not capture the spirit of like why I watched Star Trek. I watched Star Trek for like essentially, you know, a great episode of Star Trek to me will put like a moral proposition and then thoroughly explore it through like its characters. And it will explore a moral idea with excellent character writing along the way, and you know who all these people are and what they believe and stuff, right? Whereas the J.J. Abrams films are these like bombastic space adventures of like, look, shooting, guns. But like if they were good films, I'd still stand by them and be like, yeah, these are good films. I just don't appeal to me in the same way that actually, you know, original Star Trek films. Well, Plinkett's set of videos on the Star Trek movies are pretty good and he goes over how they've been like Star Wars-ified, to a degree, the J.J. Abrams ones. And that's- I feel like that's mean to Star Wars to say, but you know. Well, maybe not anymore. You know, it's funny enough in those videos he recommended J.J. Abrams should be making Star Wars movies and he's gone on to regret saying that significantly. Whoopsie. Yeah, you can't blame him. He didn't know. He said that J.J. Abrams should be making movies cringe. And but I like, I see the next which had to read out and just like, yep, any second now I'm gonna say it. I guess there's no point in delaying. I'm a big fan of Metal's blowhole. There you go. I don't even know. Maybe Metal's got some biology going on that I'm unaware of. People, I didn't expect this a lot of controversy in chat right now about how good the Trek movies are, J.J.'s Trek movies. Really? I'd say I'd have to re-watch them. What are you still? See people are saying that they're not faithful to Star Trek but they are good in their own right. Yeah, that's the case. I won't pretend they're bad films but I don't remember that being the case. But to be fair, I did watch them when I was like 13. I was gonna say I haven't seen them in fucking ages. But again, to be fair, when I'm like 13, these things, well, I've become a Star Trek fan retroactively after watching those films and then going back to like TNG. Like, I'd seen some TNG episodes before I watched those films but I didn't care about them. You know, I didn't really like understand this is what I go into a Star Trek episode to get out of it. I was like, yeah, this is a show I've seen sometimes. But like, I was 13, I remember thinking, yeah, that film wasn't very good. When I was 13, man, you had to do a lot wrong for me to be like, mm-hmm. Yeah, because you were like super forgiving. You liked fucking everything. You thought that the TFA was good. I liked Transformers 2. John, my god. I needed a reference from the TLJ rage video. And when I was letting the video play while I was grabbing something I needed, I heard myself say the throne room scene was like the best part and it's amazing and stuff. I was like, oh my god. When I first saw TLJ, I was convinced the throne room scene was still pretty good. How naive. How naive. I should take release of Johnson. That just sounds like you're getting him circumcised. I don't know. Someone said the blowhole thing is referencing BattleStream from today. It's like, okay. I can't believe you guys would kill Clam. Shame. I can understand that reaction. Don't worry. Me and Fringy know what that means. I'm still addicted to Doom Eternal. I love it. Fair enough. I still haven't played it. I still got around to that one day. Finished Angel Season 5 today. So much better than 4. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's a lot better. Yeah. Try getting into Buffy and Angel Comics. It's even worse than Angel Season 4. So as far as I'm concerned from everything I've heard about those comics, they are just not canon in my head. I don't care if they considered canon, they're not. They definitely considered canon, but we ain't fucking going anywhere near them. By the way, I have this same logic for the sequels. It's like, yes, they are officially canon, but like, I don't actually watch the OT and think, oh man, these guys are heading toward the sequels. That's the storyline. It's like, no. Yeah. Yeah, like here's the thing. Like, what isn't canon is just made up. Like, you can decide whatever you want when watching it. You can literally watch New Hope and decide that Empire isn't canon. Yeah. If you want to. That's all up to you. At the same time, what is officially canon will usually determine what I'm going to be criticizing, right? Like, you know, why do I criticize the sequel trilogy versus someone writing a fan fiction sequel to the OT? It's like, oh. So yeah, what is and isn't canon only really matters when you're consuming a new work set in the same world, right? So then if you are consuming a new, like, work of Star Wars, then you're probably going to need to understand that the sequel trilogy is canon because those events might be referenced and stuff established in them might come up, right? That's a good point. Whereas if you're just, or if you're writing a new work, then you really need to understand what counts and what doesn't. It's also the fact that it'll have the most eyes on it, I guess, as well and the most discussion to be had about the choices made. And, you know, the community of like, yay, let's all talk about it. Because if it's good, you know, that'd be great. So like the, and then however, like as a, as a consumer, you can make these decisions for yourself. So like, what is the difference between someone who wrote like a really in-depth fan fiction sequel trilogy that's like, incredibly well thought out and amazing and Disney's sequel trilogy? Well, the difference there is that Disney had money. And I was like, oh, should people who have money determine, like, should the amount of money you have determine like, your, the amount that you get to say on what counts in terms of a work of fiction? It's like, no, not really. Having money, I don't think you give you authority over art. Um, I suppose the question comes in of just, well, so you're talking about like, what's a meaningfully canon shouldn't necessarily be determined by who has the most money. Yeah. So I was in, Disney had loads of money, so they got to buy Star Wars and just declare that True. What they were making was canon and a lot of other stuff wasn't. But I mean, if that's the only way that it can be done. I was going to say, if we've all agreed on that, like, that's just property rights. Like that's how it works. Well, okay, so property rights means that you can, that you can use a work. It doesn't mean that you get to declare how other people interpret it. Well, I mean, you can't. What is this canon? It's totally a death of the author thing. Um, I'm not sure that canon would be what would be considered to be part of death of the author, right? Like if, if you establish it as, so like, for instance, I think that there are things that are inconsistent in a work, but like, it doesn't matter whether or not I think they're in, they happened. It's a problem. Well, so like, you know, Empire is a separate work from, from New Hope, right? Like you can, like, is in, so Empire is not part of the text of New Hope? Um, couldn't I extend your logic though to the point where I'm like, half of a New Hope isn't canon by my... Yeah, exactly. Each scene, each... I suppose so, but like... Like, well, that's technically... So all I'm getting at is like, it starts to use its usefulness, lose its usefulness beyond myself, like... I think, I think this is all like an academic conversation anyway, until you're actually right. And like until the, like the circumstances we've brought up where it's like, you're writing new work or you're consuming any work and you need to understand what counts. I believe that canon is specifically defined as what's the creator's owners, the people who have like, authority over the work, have said is the timeline, basically. Yeah, and... Like canon is very much based on what is said by the people who own it. And my response isn't usually that it's not canon, it's just that it's really shitty canon. Like you guys... I hate it, and I don't care. Yeah, and... And the... In my head, which again is just like the peak of subjectivity at this point, and we're like, yeah, the sequels didn't actually happen to Luke, Luke wouldn't have done any of that shit. Most of them wouldn't have. Like... But official canon states that those, that fucking shit is canon. And that's why we're so frustrated with it. Because again, if it was JJ just writing his little fan fiction and his little cabin, he releases it, we'd be like, wow, that was terrible, if we read it. But it wouldn't go beyond that. In fact, we probably wouldn't be that annoyed at it. We'd be like, wow, that's some interesting ideas you got there. Yeah. So that's an interesting question someone was bringing up, like if enough people, we're talking like millions and millions. It's all like one person's fan fiction, like from John doobly-doo or whatever, and it's like it's loved enough to the point where people just like, they talk about the actual content as though that's the canon. That would be interesting. If enough minds push for it, it probably would take over to a degree. Well, yeah. So as in a canon, it's just like a shared agreement, essentially. Like, yeah. It's just a thing. If Disney, like fucking, like some guy bought Star Wars, I need to clad privately. Like this stuff is canon, this stuff isn't. No, that's not gonna do anything. Disney, like it only matters that Disney declared stuff because they did it publicly and they have a massive platform to do that. Yeah, sure. Um, just like, ultimately, you can decide what you count and you don't count as canon for yourself. Like that's up to you. I mean, I can just think, I mean, I'm, I guess I've just totally accepted the idea that there is official canon and then there's just what I accept in my head based off of more substantive criteria, but that's just separate from official canon. Yeah. And you can say that official canon is worth a lot or nothing, depending on the person, right? You'd be like, I don't fucking care what they say official canon is. Well, yeah, so it's in like official canon matters when you're continuing your official works, right? I don't like death of the author at all. Definitely. Death of the author sounds like revisionism. Believe me, you like death of the author. Everyone likes death of the author unless they're not quite clear on it. You really like death of the author. You want to have sex with death of the author? You love it that much, trust me. You want to fuck it in its butthole. I feel like there are, there are going to be people who don't like death of the author. I don't know, man. And they're wrong. I don't even know if they truly understand how it works. I don't know why they would ever be in favor of it. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Against it. Because death of the author is your friend, trust me. Substantive tooting your own horn there a bit rags. Yeah, absolutely. I'm a much better writer than pretty much everyone in Hollywood. Everyone just like pretty much. I'd say there's some, I mean, but those, the ones that are actually really good are far outweighed by the ones that are just shit and get things. I like, for instance, if we're talking about Star Wars in particular because we've been talking about that a lot, my canon, like my ability to tell stories and stuff like that, I can do way better shit than JJ and Ryan did. No question about it. You're like, we all could hear. We all could hear undoubtedly each and every one of us in this call, all four of us could independently come up with a better sequel trilogy story than those two clowns could and did. Probably a lot of people in chat as well. Not everyone. Yeah, you too. Someone said, please explain Death of the Author and we're doing it. We said we'd bring it out and now we're going to bring it out. The James Gunn example. So a lot of you in chat would have seen I'm going to get a drink. I'll be right back. A lot of you in chat would have seen The Suicide Squad. You would have probably potentially enjoyed it. Now you would have watched it and a lot of people felt a lot for good ol' Polkadot Man. Mainly because he seemed like a dude who'd had his life completely destroyed by his mum and then forced into a position of like she's trying to force him to become a superhero. And he's like depressed because it's just like a horrible result of destroying his life and stuff. Seems like a good guy throughout most of the most of the storyline and it's only when Milton dies that he like angrily protests on behalf of Milton for all the good that he did and that no one seems to care. It's like it gives an impression to a lot of viewers that Polkadot Man he's gonna be quiet and reserved but when he thinks like a really big dare I call it injustice is happening he's gonna make it clear he's gonna stand up for that and he's like ah. And you know by the end he gets really invigorated by the fact that he's finally doing something significant and good and then he dies and it's like oh man pretty much completed storyline I would say it's fully understood. James Gunn said that he only cared to mention Milton as a point of attention he's trying to get attention for himself because he's a bit of an an attention seeker doesn't really care he just wants people to pay attention to him. So People are gonna stay and chat I'm sorry People are gonna stay and chat well yeah definitely the author is dumb but that just means it's a bad story. That's what that's gonna be the response like I guarantee it. I mean I don't even understand like that response anyway I'm totally near the end so the James Gunn is telling you how the character thinks and feels and why he did what he did when most people I've spoken to absolutely have no idea what he's referring to after having seen the film because it's just not really there but the thing is he's the author he's the one who wrote this so we're gonna tell him that he's wrong that he's got the wrong interpretation of his own character it's like how could that possibly make sense and it's like well because he he didn't put it in the fucking movie I'm sorry like and this happens to loads of things and you just have to be like sorry author the second you publish you're out you're no more an insightful source of like a valid source of commentary than anyone else as I say probably would be more insightful but uh not always not always no not always probably um doesn't that violate your laws of canon nope what people say isn't canon what what it what the project is is canon so like Star Wars releases and George says that Luke is a banana it's like that's nice I love that's your example that's a great example it is a great example um but there are times where it gets complicated like if someone's says I don't know tally tubbies was always a criticism of I don't know the communist utopia you'd be like and the creators like I had no fucking thing about that I don't know what you're doing and so everyone's like see you're you're making it all up the thing is you could actually do that with something that really does have those components and makes it and it's like really fucking effective but the author was like I didn't intend it and it's like that's fine it's when you're separating up the artwork it's all about the arguments you make authors can also have headcanon true and the thing is like if you if there's like one deleted scene that would have made that all clear for Boca Dot Man and James got rid of it to save time whatever and didn't realize that it kind of fucks with everyone's perception of Boca dot man it's like it's too late now I guess you can make a director's cut but he's too late but yeah um I don't know was that it we were on a topic of some kind now I don't know where we are I think that we covered it all let's press on death the author will keep coming back up and that's fine until next time I suppose my top three characters you don't know I'm going to read them out it's about buffing angel and uh excellent choices all three short-faced bear versus sabertooth tiger go hmm a short-faced bear so if it's short-faced I guess that means it'll be harder for it to bite down fully on the I guess I like the sabertooth tiger might have the problem is I'm not bear wins how big how big is the sabertooth no but did you hear the first part that it's like very flat nose that's true but even then do you know how sabertooth tigers would kill their prey primarily that was that was my question was um what are their what are their strategies so the sabertooth as as far as what I've heard about the smiley don is that they wouldn't um they wouldn't actually like use their massive fangs for hunting and for the killing of the animal in particular right that was what I was about to ask they they would suffocate their animal is what they would try and do they wear it their tails were huge they would try and like catch the animal wear it down and then suffocate it which was an unceremonious and often lengthy process right I didn't know what a short fact I thought it was like oh a bear but with a short bear with a short face actual species I didn't know that this was a species yeah the bear wins no doubt this thing is huge and sabertooth I don't think sabertooth tiger is worth that big well I have a really cool name though like fearsome guy like sabertooth tiger it's not a cat like it's not a tiger it's not a uh it's something else it's the guy's from um ice age right it's a smilodon it's not even yeah I don't even think it's technically a feline I'm not even sure maybe it's the that's what the name yeah the three felines the fuck is a smiley don that's the official name of that's the sabertooth tiger yeah just like I know that is the official name for the Tasmanian tiger the walking with series I don't know which one it was they had the smilodons in it though yeah he's um walking with dinosaurs walking with monsters those one yeah yeah I those were great they were great I love them um the I just I just know that sabertooth are really friendly um according to ice age I mean that's the name yeah smiley fellas yeah it really it literally means the smiling don and you know how can you go wrong at that point a great example is Roland in the dark tower there is a major story implication that he's a white man that's that's what I've heard from people who've read that story that race changing him is going to have drastic effects on the story um which creates interesting problems and that you'd have to alternate like whatever it is that you had in the original story I guess um back for blood is a new game from the creators of laugh of dad pretty much laugh of dad and all but name since they don't own the rights to it will you guys be trying it out of it not that interest personally um I think Mel tried it and he said it wasn't that impressive if um it seems to me what people are saying about it you know this is the thing I probably just ended playing left for dead I guess unless it's significantly better and then at that point I just play killing flaws yeah left for deads pretty good permanentites better killing floor I think I think they're all better than left for dead but they have the advantage of coming out 67 years after left for dead was made and learning a lot from it so yeah um and that's why this this game should probably be in that position too made it yeah those are the it's turnerock studios they're the ones who made it so like hearing that it's hearing that it's only like marginally I don't even know the Mel said and it was any better than life of dead is like no that's not reassuring I don't know and it isn't its first version so maybe maybe you don't give it time over time I'm hoping hey rags look up the video Tifa in the box it's a it's by baron strap I've watched it hundreds of times also jay you're my favorite aww wow 12 minutes in red one super chat gotten 10 new ones never changed fellas I mean that you don't point it out all right people gonna think we'll never catch up but we will we will how you say how yeah um I wouldn't want to give away such incredible uh stratagems ah stratagem centaur and strategy yeah that's a teaching that's an episode of a show it is this girl in the fireplace a historical drama yes what if you told a story those in the future like 10 years and it turns out it was like one to one with what actually happens coincidentally would it then become a historical drama in future no I don't think so I think that one would be defined based on your intentions that one would be what if fucking all the people who made it died and there's no record of their intentions yeah then I guess that becomes told together I'm saying in the world where that is the castle so in the new model what if they turn to charlotte into star lord looking forward to the next episode when they turn peter quill into black pet oh yeah they they're not doing that no way the way they turn to charlotte into star lord is fucking absurd and crazy anyway but trying to get a white to charlotte no that would be danger zone so I'm kind of lost here are you saying that ethnic essentialism isn't a valid field good luck rebuilding IQ testing from scratch that's a quote they've got that in quotes don't worry they've said the person who said it is tale of two smuds good show remember the rabbits guy rags that was fun the rabbits guy yeah tale of two rabbits oh yeah that's right that was a whole thing for those who don't know me and rags spent like was it nine hours nine half hours on the adamant stichestream going over a debate that was pretty cringe but hey a lot was achieved yeah that's fun streamers achieve things hey fringy could you exclaim this show um this show there you go this for a meme I don't know I'm guessing it is why is the race IQ statistic thing in valid so oh wait we luckily we managed to go over that one I assume um the next one is a as a the buffy related fuck mary kill it's just like uh I never know how much I should know because I can't even speculate on the reasoning okay yeah sorry you have to just just save all of these up for a buffy super chat thing I guess I guess we'll have to someday months ago I commented about rags getting mad with chat easily and how he's going after them just wanted to say he's gotten much better lately and it shows no chat chat has coincidentally not said as many things that are fucking retarded so as you know I feel like rags probably get pisses like like fucks with chat as much as he wants to all the time I don't think you I don't think there's any change same for me by the way and fringy which by the way I would argue me and fringy have called out chat more than rags has in all of time if they if they say things that are really dumb and stupid then they will be punished for it in the same vein if they say something insightful or funny we will usually be like hey nice one good stuff that was a good one yeah good job buddy for example hello mola pretty neat pretty clever and then it just says looking forward to more from him beating rags keep up a good wick guys you bet yeah more from rags coming soon to a theater near you I have a it's triumph and someone's posted a quote a really good one from buffing angel good quote a five not gonna read it out though that's how crazy I'm getting with spoiler protection for the moment just wait until I'm on fringy stream post them all there and then we can talk about it freely I have some nice buffing spoilers um check out ethnicity and IQ by Thomas Sowell IQ difference between groups of small many people get higher scores with verbal IQ test compared to written there is so much to talk about in terms of the validity of IQ tests it is super deep there's a lot that goes into it statistics are complicated all right true statistically yes another quote it's a great quote all right and I appreciate it but I'm just I'm not gonna read it all right just just watch your video on the father your best work my friend's dad had Alzheimer's it's been heartbreaking watching him deteriorate before our eyes yeah it's a really rough and it's rare to find someone who hasn't gotten some connection with extended family with someone who's gotten it it's um yeah there's a there's a few let's call them like bad things that can happen to you in life where I'm just sort of like yeah it sucks we gotta like deal with it but then there are some where it's just like oh fuck off like what what is this you know in a way that when you understand how life works you kind of feel like there's a balance in terms of I fall over and you know I graze my my skin and bleed blood comes out you're just like in the pain you're just like like that kind of makes sense but then you find out about the there's some diseases out there you're just like oh that's taking the piss that's stupid like why would you make this like it's just absurd there's there's a couple of them and um um I think that was there's that famous like discussion with Stephen Fry and someone else where he's talking about the is it like a bacteria that eats kids eyes whatever yeah yeah that's right fucked up there's no there's no it's just no purpose it's so guys they couldn't have been intelligently designed any other way well barring all of that like because I fucking agree it's it's just a matter of Alzheimer's is one of those ones where it's just like that is cruel why the fuck does that exist yeah and uh yeah um the one annoyed religious person in chat now well the one the one that's left after all this time I'm sorry your lure should be better written I don't know what to say Christian lore is inconsistent a critique of the bible the only thing worse than a lifeless corpse is a mindless corpse my god was that confucius someone put in potages at least we're not ableist what what what what I'm lost on that one oh no there's one for it a while ago we achieved the lowest elementary school grades in my country's history at least we're not ableist I mean it is good to not be ableist that's a positive yeah I don't okay anyway um be obviously to the person who sent that message I hope you're doing okay um it bum me that people keep bringing up that phase actress was Latina despite being pretty white we Spanish come in all colors um well so that's interesting for wasn't the best example of this apocalypse for um X-Men apocalypse Oscar Isaac played him and those people complaining that it should be an Egyptian actor right oh right because the guy was from Egypt at the time I I believe that was the uh that was the thing it was super awkward just goes to show again like you shouldn't judge it based on the color you should be very careful well it's not that simple yeah I love love love love love do maternal combat loop I've not played it I don't know of course captain Carter is just better right um from the brief stuff I saw of her it looked like she might be stronger than Steve with some of the stuff she was doing amazing and then like it just got the standard like when she's battling the eldritch demon thing it's just like there's lots of things that happen they're just like huh yeah what are we doing here guys also do you reckon um like what like the what if finale will just be grabbing up all those characters together yes we're in a van absolutely absolutely who's um no doubt who are they gonna be fighting is it avengers one territory or I I don't know I'm not sure oh sorry was it Rami Malek in night of the museum I might have mixed up films that could be true oh that's that's uh that'd be one yeah because he played our run it damn it they had really long names yeah sorry if I mixed them up I honestly just I well I mean there's oscar Isaac oh right but oscar Isaac is playing moon knight and that's egypt related is he uh is he is that because yeah I was about to say he might not be egyptian I can't remember oh I actually I didn't even think of that hold on is he is his heritage egyptian let's see oh he's from Guatemala maybe he is uh yeah I I think I was thinking of Rami Malek that's probably what it was yeah like but uh it's this thing Rami Malek and oscar Isaac are both pretty great actors yes fuck this up Rami Malek is uh excellent he's not egyptian you raced as all right apparently apparently Rami uh Rami Malek is egyptian so that wasn't the exact wait now I'm confused Rami Malek is egyptian so he is the correct example yeah I got it wrong oh no it was oscar Isaac then because he's no Cuban heritage well what do you mean no so the example I was looking for wasn't apocalypse it was um knight in the ucms was playing was an egyptian guy oh sorry people got mad about doesn't this one when people got mad about it because they didn't know he was egyptian yeah yeah the Rami Malek and knight in the museum I'm pretty sure people were like why the fuck's this white guy playing an egyptian character and he was like ooh whoopsie yeah gotta be careful he could also be you could be white as snow in egyptian as well absolutely absolutely I want to get some black russian representation no those don't exist it's like three baby those are the unicorns um F of my boy P.T. Piranha yeah he's dead sorry about that who's dead P.T. Piranha he's dead killed him twice actually yeah two of the main characters in the Buffy comic have intercourse and literally birth an entire new universe yeah yes quite a come shot it's quite a quite a storyline I will say uh fun hypothetical if it was to be an actual movie about e-fap who'd you get to play yourselves in the movie bonus who'd you get to play Jared oh we could play ourselves right I guess the question's assuming we for some reason we can't yeah we have someone I don't know how should we go for just the most the most obviously inaccurate choice someone who's just clearly not like us like Idris Elba plays me or something like that I was gonna say Idris Elba plays me god damn it and Arnold Schwartz and Ager plays springy someone who's just clearly not at us I really like that idea Mollie you can be Hammerstone okay I mean she's got range and I think I think Rags and I can both be played by Idris Elba I think that's okay yeah oh what if we all play each other everyone's like why did you do it this way it's like look it was it just it made the most sense trust us I'm enjoying the I'm enjoying the chat suggestions we've got Tommy Wiseau is Jay Wayne Johnson is Jay Matt Jarba was Mollie Davido was Mollie Mollie I'd like to see Danny DeVito play you what about Gal Gadot I was thinking Danny DeVito for something yeah Gal Gadot plays Rags oh we well if we get her as you she can say no actually that's perfect yeah William DeFoe was Metal you know Gal Gadot has to play Fringy so she would say no wow yeah no you're no that is that is uncanny right there yeah that's amazing we place movie Bob Hitler it was like this person I can't play him he's so cruel Steve Buscemi as Rags Brie Larson as Rags Kevin James as Movie Bob I don't know who that is who's Kevin James nice do you not know who Kevin James is comedian that's why I just said I don't know who Kevin James is yeah I assume that's what that means yeah I I yeah sure I yeah absolutely you got me all right you got me so I just said that's why I literally just said the words I don't know who Kevin James is well you're on culture Jay you haven't watched Moll Cop what's that who he is wasn't it was there two Moll Cops um yeah no Kevin so there were two Moll Cops but Kevin holy wait you said who's Kevin James right I'll blow it I wasn't yeah there sorry I just got the Y's crossing my head there for a minute yeah there are two of those that's like you also played the zookeeper I feel like they should be a franchise Moll Cop that's much larger it's a very interesting content Elijah Wood is springy James Corden is Moller oh no what's that James Corden is yeah I always you've got you've got Moller dressed in a little mouse costume thump uh humping the air there's a meme of that traffic in LA there is a meme of that I much prefer the suggestion of James Corden to play Jay Longbone what I would say in blackface dude imagine how angry you'd be but like on that topic of the Corden thing you're trying to go to work and you get stopped by a flash rob parodic some shitty Cinderella remake and then James Corden comes up to you and humps the air in front of you like just imagine that being your Monday morning where is it they got incredibly lucky with the people they found like they didn't even honk it's like yeah that happens to be I'm just honking maybe they just didn't show the ones who did maybe because it was filmed from inside the car that's true the guy was filming from inside his car but maybe it's just in LA you get used to ship lock and traffic because like they film productions all the time because it's just an apocalyptic shithole that you're just like oh well they're not mugging me or that's this is all right you don't know they're not going to mug you rags you don't I don't think I don't know I don't know if it's James Corden you know that I would really enjoy the news story of James Corden performs a flash mob but then mugs commuters to promote Cinderella still to promote Cinderella like this the mugging is for business I mean that'd be a news story that'd get people talking about it you know mm-hmm yeah because I mean who's gonna watch that movie like really James Corden the last one I suppose he'll watch it yeah the last not question by the way was who would be cast for Jared like we could do um what's the name of Shuman Christian Stuart she could get into the role just dignified an amazing actor that you can that that you can get to for portray Jared Brian Cranston Charles dance Charles dance Charles dance very well Brad you're so excited about oh and you're cooking the microphone now you know like oh I'm sorry about cooking my microphone who doesn't want to see it it's okay it's all right I'm sorry I just want to see Charles dance play Jared Genesis it's the role he was born to play I was about to say yeah that could be the the iconic role for his life or you can have Patrick Stewart and we could call it Star Trek Genesis yeah yeah good Imola as a fan of Buffy and Angel have you seen Firefly brilliant casting a character chemistry will building and plot yeah I've always liked Firefly but I would need to re-watch I haven't seen it so long now that my references are thin but um Firefly has the obsessive community for a reason it just never got beyond season one hey all how you doing can I get for you to say oo-woo but like oo-war oo-war oo-war all right there you go you got a close answer for Australian accent rags and jay say your best oo-woo too oo-woo too I feel like this probably for memes so we should say it at separate times oo-woo oo-woo oo-woo and then I got to do it oo-woo deep so oo-woo that was a great oo-woo more it's going into my it's just going into my soul though uh would you guys consider the first two scooby-doo movies for halloween effat movies sure I would totally watch zombie island man that would be great are we talking about the live action one or the animated ones oh fuck uh sorry if you talk about yeah I mean live action ones I'm on board with too yeah I'm fine with them well yeah actually I don't even I just assumed that zombie island was one of the first what are the first scooby-doo movies I think it was the first oh neat at least at least the first new ones I think I'm not sure though because they were made for tv movies back in the day I don't know if they were ever like released uh more how goes the comics homework greatly now regular on real bbc I've not gotten homework yet but um they've already decided I want my first homework's gonna be so yeah I'll finally be reading some comic books so it is funny to see them speculate because they know who I am so they're like we should probably choose accordingly I have no idea what I'm gonna end up with but uh yeah I'll wait for the hot takes I know right they'll give me like the best comic book of all time and I'm like this is pretty cringe yeah that's probably what's gonna happen with at least one of at least one of us can say that this is the best comic book of all time right you're gonna hot take one of them well I know that civil war has a good reputation I think over there and and from what I understand civil war is a book that I'm probably not gonna like or at least I'll have issues with it certainly fucking civil war two holy shit I mean I'm told you about civil war that uh not good as long as this stuff to be able to complement in it I should be fine but like civil war two I would struggle to fucking talk about things I like what's the deal with civil war two so civil war two is minority report captain marvel is pro minority report and tony is anti minority report and and like they have arguments about it but it's not meaningful because it feels like captain marvel is just never considered at all the counter arguments against prosecuting people for crimes before they've committed them so it's really and then like they just make bad decisions like at the end of the comic tony is like they're having issues and they're fighting each other they just have these big epic battles and right at the ant tony fucking comes in with the giant whole bus trying kill yeah yeah wait so the context is spider-man is told that he's going to kill captain america captain america is talking to spider-man like hey man don't worry about it I know you never do that and then captain marvel is like hello spider-man let's go to jail come on and we'll have a chat I want you to stay away from captain america in case you kill him and then they're talking about that and then toady just blasts it and fucking attacks captain marvel is like what are you doing he's like fuck you yeah we're called faster thanks tony well and then he gets well it's in it's in this is pre-lasted captain marvel I'm imagining this is just well it's a comic I don't know what I'm not sure what the distinction would be I guess also yeah there's an evil clone of thaw that's a robot or whatever it's also a little one the robot thaw I mean that's not that's not a bad idea all right that was in the that was in the original and they build it and then it kills one of the heroes because they didn't build it with a no kill or a function and then and then I remember like doesn't I think Tony tries to like blow up peter as well he comes to talk to him like oh yeah that was crossing the line he's like oh we have to do this and they lock all the heroes in the negative zone or whatever and then they just teleport oh I think the best part is right at the end cloak just teleports them all into the middle of new york it's like man of all the places like you could just put them in a field somewhere like in the middle of the countryside you got to drop them in the like most important city in america so they can have a massive battle and destroy it and then like a bunch like it legit seems like captain america is about to kill Tony and then all the the civilians tackle it they're like no stop it you're destroying our city oh no and and then he turns himself in because he was on the wrong side even though like Tony was doing very villainous things to try and push his side forward is why like civil war the movie a lot more it dials it in a bit and the who's correct is complicated it's more complicated yeah because yeah um i'm all fine for swapping things but it's a two-way street at the end of the day a good story is a good story but there's other factors at play that resonate with people besides just the story if a story is a cultural slash historical tale and some changes can be jarring i think it's worth appreciating all the different things that can make someone be put off by content but ultimately like if you're trying to separate them into categories and judge them then um by the way this this really does apply if they made a white blade right i would be like what the fuck are you doing at the same time if someone said do you think it's impossible for it to be good i'd be like well no could be good no but why would you do this yeah and that applies to all of these like making anbel in black is weird as fuck like i said it's like what are you doing um but i just want to make sure that we don't get lost to the point where we say like this story is now automatically bad do not watch it it's like well i mean for all we know you gotta feel bad for the creators out there who are like trying their best to tell incredible stories and then this i don't know studios tell them you've got to be doing this thing and they're like oh like like what about what about that scenario where someone does the thing because they didn't want to but they were forced to but they still write a really good story um yeah it doesn't have to be studios either you can literally just be like oh we want to tell the story of anbel in but we're like a small company and we only have like certain acts available to us we like the best like we have we have three actresses who auditioned for the part of the anbel in and the only good one was this black woman it's like oh should we just not make the production then or should we have a black anbel in like that's completely like what i mean what would people who were upset by am a black anbel in say in that situation i guess it's my first year and someone said the bbc is not a small company well jay was just offering many reasons it could happen this is a hypothetical if and that's the thing i still think there are plenty of reasons it could i mean what if this woman is a fucking incredible actress what about that could happen yes that means and what if you look at this and you're like man this is the best performance i've ever seen i couldn't imagine this you know this being made with anyone else in the role well like i have to imagine and again i'm not i'm not trying to tiggle this back up again but like you should just go ahead go ahead just just that um i know i i want nick fury to be samuel jackson at this point like i wouldn't want him to be swapped out not but at the same time if they did an alternate universe multiverse thing and there was a white nick fury played by fucking i don't know u jackman u jackman and i'd be like well i mean that's that's okay let's give him yeah what were you saying rakes let's say what if this actress is so insanely good that from this point on if androlyn is ever depicted she has to be black or people will lose their shit to get outrage like the fuck is this white lady do it at this and all the things black people can act long dude some black actor is a fucking phenomenal called black tears black tears oh yeah i know that everyone is capable of bad takes but what about your thoughts on the recent smub boy thing also what the fuck smud i mean if you rewind to the 10 minute mark you will find a full discussion on it 10 minutes i think is around about when we start um scar joe in the ghost in the shell movie isn't asian but she looked like the main character and some Japanese people thought she was a good choice i've not seen that plus if anyone who knows anything about the source material should know that motoko kusanagi is not like she never had a body that's the whole thing she never had a physical body so she is unique in that regard so it doesn't matter if she looks asian or white or black or anything that's kind of a whole point i mean the show is called ghost in the shell still that the um was it the prospect that they were going to use CGI to make her look more asian mega cringe is that a that was a thing right i'm not just making that up imagine they did that to make someone look more white it's like we use CGI to make someone look more white it's like you're not allowed to do that well remember um i don't think you're allowed to use CGI to make someone look asian i don't think oh but it doubly so remember the the Idris Elba wasn't black enough for luther so maybe CGI could have fixed that making black or damn it we can't we can't we've turned up the black i'm sorry that quote on quote argument was that he was culturally right yeah yeah maybe you can add culture through CGI yeah yeah maybe not that is like that his skin tone wasn't dark enough but like that he didn't come from like a black enough area or whatever i don't know which makes it which makes it better no it doesn't i don't think so i oof it's such a it's all very oof it starts to kill you back around to to like dangerous territories um yeah does that make it better or worse um because like i think i think it i don't honestly makes it worse because if they're talking about like this character needs to be played by someone with a darker skin tone at least that's something that's you're gonna see on screen whereas i like this actor comes from a different cultural background i was like okay he's an actor i was gonna say that's the fucking craft is it not yeah um uh you said you want to learn more about the event when breaking down Chernobyl uh could the stakes and depiction of radiation be classified under adaptation argument if um it's an adaptation of history if they appeal to our understanding of radiation for us to understand the effects of it then and then they also break like how radiation works then um i'll probably point that out as a as a failing on the show like if they depict everything as it would happen with radiation except for a few things that get in the way of them being able to tell the story they want to tell then i would see that as a flaw um but as far as i know they they do it really well i don't know that's the thing i don't really know a lot about radiation i just know it's bad and it like fucking if you get a huge dose of it it'll melt you from the inside out it's horrifying that's like one of the top to your worst deaths i assume right yep definitely up there for spiderman oh yes spiderman killed people with his radioactive come right oh yeah i forgot about that oh what were you referencing i wasn't that just he got um bit by radioactive spider so it's radiation forcing and death no he got a he got a different result with that he was he lucked out i feel like if if you had a choice of what happens in genoble or getting spiderman powers probably going for the the latter right i you know what i don't even need to clarify that question with you i know what your answer would be it's okay i sound well i know you because of getting game noises so i'm just gonna agree the bridge of death isn't true is that the part where they were all watching i'm not 100% sure what the bridge of death refers to i'm sorry but if it's like where people were at what times you know or if it's something else um there cannot be e-fab without first a great tism the greater the tism the longer the e-fab it's true what's bonious yeah okay i've played to the dead space trilogy for the first time recently first is good second one's great and third one is a game high rags oh rags is muted he would have said hi i'll say hi hi whoa you just stole the um i think it was the stream covering quintance tlj video where rags went away and uh the guests alternated between saying hi and when people said hi rags that was it was fun all right i guess i'm next on cuz freeing's not here oh um you and me one boy it is more a place sonic hero is not super mario sunshine challenge impossible i i i don't like playing sonic heroes okay i used to when i was a young man but i did not enjoy playing that on super nap catch i'm sorry i'm all the place a hero jay have you played securo no wow i'm basically playing cyberpunk uncultured i'm getting frames right now so i'm gonna stop playing because i think my pc is just good enough to play this game so if i'm doing other stuff with my pc at the same time i get frames wow look at you doing other stuff for the pc some people can't even do stuff with the pc well i'm very privileged bad yes there you go hmm jay and i shared a pineapple pizza with a straw once facts wow how did that go great i'm sorry i've done that with so many people that i don't know who you are but like i'm sure it was a good one i don't under like those words in that order like i don't i think i first read that i was like am i having like some kind of stroke like i understand pineapple pizza and then with a straw i'm like am i just not comprehending the words correctly i guess you could blend it all right oh yeah that must be yeah yeah we did it we solved it of course i i knew that already because it's yeah you knew that when will we get any fat movies on tarik nashid's movie buck breaking so that's the the one where white people are slaves right or is that someone else because i remember someone else mentioning them there was a cool bracket oh then i don't know uh-huh i mean that's there's very plausibly more than one of those films yes also why is an australian here not eating grass upside down in prison damn how do you know he's not i don't think the australian is eating grass there is that can can someone explain that to me i think they just they enjoy the idea that everybody's eating grass they just mentioned it as a sort of like i hope this is you know in there with all the other things oh it's not that i trust you but i'm gonna wait for chat to answer this one as well i mean they're gonna a hundred percent agree he's an australian why are you talking about fictional places all the time jay oh sorry i forgot australia doesn't exist now i have to ask is man of steel better than rise of skywalker i rags what do you think i think so the rise of skywalker they don't know which way is up which is pretty embarrassing yeah that's catastrophically bad mm-hmm there's a whole army that don't know which way is up what's the most significant floored man of steel it's like probably the it's like the wormhole stuff or the the wheel building i think it's a world building the idea that all of the outposts on it's like man yeah no way oh the baby killing was pretty bad yeah the civilian genocide yeah uh i'd like to have an in-depth conversation about metals blowhole meme developed some wonderful lore involving fringy penetrating metals blowhole look at meme repository's twitter feed hashtag blowhole oh wow they've been busy while we've been away got blowhole lore shadow warrior 2 plays better than doom eternal i've not played either i can believe it when what's the latest on the boys video in did you there isn't an update on any of the things the videos come when the videos come that's the new philosophy of this channel or at least my channel i assume you guys are similar ish i don't know promises made means no promises broken exactly i'm similar ish i have i haven't i know what i'm working on and i know when it's coming out but you don't know that's the way it be i appreciate uh the people just just want to know for the sake of like knowing what's next but uh expect surprises uh if it was ever possible would you allow cinema roberto on as a guest yeah we would i'd have so many fucking questions for that man like in the mud roberto is there are many issues this sounds exactly like the dark town movie roland is white in the books but is yourself but playing roland is amazing in the movie the issues with the film aren't his it's everything else yeah i would imagine that i was gonna say is anybody know of a movie where idris alba was shit in it nor not really i don't i'm not aware of the suicide squad hey he was neat in that he made blood stuff a sport like activity um in secondary school teachers would put the simpsons because episodes would be vaguely related to the subject any excuse to put the simpsons on right oh i see so they would play episodes of simpsons if they had any vague connection to a lesson that's clever that's the way to do it what's gonna say uh our history lessons every once in a while we'd get to see some movies and um i don't remember it as well but downfall was definitely one of them uh was it all quiet on the western front i think was another one and saving private ryan was definitely one it's like man gets you to i guess understand the level of the atmosphere but also is just fucking top-notch moviemaking as well oh my god i don't know if i can say this this got uh this was said in um in i think metal's chat or no fringy's chat i think and it got it got caught by twitch but i think youtube's still okay with it i guess oh my goodness they got so excited well it's it's just the stand it's the ching chong bing bong they say that and it's like oh god i don't know how long you're gonna do that that's wrong with ching chong bing bong that's already something if you said on twitch it gets caught by moderation why i imagine because people it's too commonly associated with i mean this is literally about to reference the legend of the tin wings but i think it's pretty clear what's being referenced why would why would anyone associate the the the the the sounds ching chong bing bong with legend of the tin rings i don't know right how would they do that but is it to mimic the fact that so much so many words in mandarin are just one syllable i guess so maybe i don't know that's that's a i don't know um more if you don't want to read that i think rags will also hi rags hello well you know as soon as it becomes a violation of to us i won't be reading it anymore that's that's the basic way i can figure out the rules of this whole thing um it's not that rags stopped from yelling at chat chat just lost rags are still best boy that's true chat has lost all of those every single fight every single one i'm i remain undefeated dude look at my fucking awesome garden of sunflowers right now look at this oh i'm gonna get one more also can black superman be from moof moof asalis instead of metropolis i mean you can still be from metropolis right yeah theoretically black people in metropolis i'd have to imagine there's plenty why because in the here and there there's a big melting pot as i understand it metropolis you know you've got all of everyone there including martians and they engage in the the career of manhunting that's not a very that's not a great name to have well yeah we talked about it on the the snider cut he introduces himself to ban aflux batman as i am the martian manhunter it's like there's some who call me the martian manhunter and i'm like should i be concerned or have you found don't worry just evil man you're like or a martian who is a man and also he is a hunter is that what you mean right i hope i don't know i i i was so i wished for his own movie i wished for three most knighted justice league movies to really understand the martian manhunter but nope yeah like if someone came up to me and said ah hello rags there uh my name is gormflame and but there are some who call me the chilean dog strangler no and i'm like oh okay oh that's not good um still miss the whole race like you think somehow but it seems like a boring slash not fun discussion whatsoever or so whatever it's not fun it's not fun i mean it's annoying it can be funny it can be it can be funny you see what people are saying and it's just like dude i would rather we're not we should move to something less contentious like the like the gender the the gender hilarity statistics what's the funniest gender Hitler i mean i mean oh wow so Hitler male female and Hitler but like hit laughter Hitler all the men were like all right the council of men has decided that Hitler was such a jerk that he is no longer going to be considered a man ladies were throwing him over to you and the women were like uh uh uh uh uh no no the council of women entity we have decided that he is definitely not a woman either you can't just do that so we're gonna throw it back to you guys and they're like no uh no the council of men has already ruled on this we're gonna have to throw it back to y'all and eventually it was decided that he would simply become his own gender Hitler gender that's pretty cool oh i thought i could hit slash lure like it i like it it's just hard to get non-biased information on this in regards to the race IQ thing i mean i don't know just i don't know what don't take it why it's taken interest and even looking it up i don't know don't even worry about it it doesn't even worry about it it doesn't matter it won't impact your life in any way that you could possibly imagine because you only judge people as individuals and not representatives of their race fucking true dad if they keep race-wapping all the characters like a little mermaid for inclusion will it get to a point where there are no roles for white males so i don't think that a white male was playing ariel so you're okay there i don't think ariel is no that's a bad example maybe she could maybe she could be a swimming nipple and they could call her arielis oh um i was wondering were you going with that when you said maybe she'd be a swimming nipple i was actually yeah i was like there are many places this joke could go this is why you stick this is why you stick to the very end you gotta you gotta hang in there for some of these accept the premise so that we can enjoy ourselves honestly you know i i want to live in the world where you just said what if she was a swimming nipple and then stopped and that was that was something we have to ponder on yeah what if she was a swimming nipple ding sound um yeah like for realsies though if it actually got to a point where it became a problem that no white males were getting acting jobs i'd be really fucking surprised be like wow how do we we really got here because still got to be plenty of roles for them i imagine i would imagine so yeah we still need uh we still need horrible stupid villains yeah we need villains so we should be golden and generals who are just the worst at being general generals that hate their own men and want to lose the war those kinds of general that's my favorite archetype yeah the men who kill their own men i love that one hey i don't need my men it's not like you do things i need less things done all right i'm like i'm really interested in what the actual statistics are for who gets like how many roles and like especially in sort of like what kind of role in the story this is like well that's the interesting one in terms of who more often gets to be the leading character and yeah i wouldn't be surprised if like even as many as 10 years ago that it was very disproportionate even taking into account the demographics but i guess that's the question right is how relevant is it as a thing to talk about what exactly is trying to achieve by doing this so like so representation doesn't matter in the individual property but it matters overall of like this is the art there's a society producers because if it if there's a big disparity between like the races that live in a society and the people who are or you know whatever demographics live in a society and then what's portrayed on screen then that's representative of something kind of fluke fluke well i guess that's the question does that matter does that matter and if so what do you need to do to address it i would say in and of itself it's it's not like an issue in itself but it is probably means well it probably represents oh yeah yeah i like that it probably represents a broader issue that has nothing to do with films themselves yes as well okay so like if it could be an issue in itself like you know it's like if it's like we have a five percent Asian population in flunkville but only one percent of leading roles are Asian people oh that's like a bigger problem you know like so i'm sorry sorry i'm sorry so if it's like we have a five percent Asian population in flunkville but only 4.5 percent of leading roles are Asian people like i don't think that that's a problem in and of itself whereas something like we have five percent population but only zero point three percent of roles i was like i think like at that point that isn't in and of itself and yeah you're wondering like why is it we we have that's like that's the thing that you see and you're like okay so why is that case so even if it's like a small disparity then like why is this a case that could be an issue the anyway like but even without considering why it's like oh only like zero like a massive disparity it's like oh that's really going to affect like the job prospects of certain actors you know but like through no fault of their own that's that that is that point is an issue in itself like or would it mean that excluding a huge number of people from being able to participate i mean i guess if it's if it's a if it's one of those issues where it like like the reason for it in terms of for whatever reason maybe a totally fine harmless reason to less Asians just want to be actors i mean because that's not a problem if they just really just it just happens to be they don't want to be actors as much but if they want to be they're not getting the jobs yeah i'm doing this for you Cyrus K i saw the message i'll do this mission it's gonna be pain for leading roles with asian like people right as as you know you wouldn't have fewer films made with late leading asian roles you probably would have like some fewer but truly the disparity there would mean that just it was easier for an asian actor to get work because proportionally that's just yeah it's like if there's a smaller pool of actors but there's still the same stories being told then that's going to be the result is it as an asian actor it would be easier to find work in the same way that i think like i don't know i could believe that it's easier to find work as an actor if you're a dwarf or that it's harder i don't know i'm not sure yeah or if there is a dwarf role you're more likely to get it well yeah if there's a dwarf role like as a as a dwarf you know what it's probably you're probably you're probably stacked up against most other actors there for that role do you think the people who do you think the people who don't cast dwarves when they could like the directors and producers do you think they're short-sighted no maybe they would be far-sighted at that point i'm not sure i mean i don't i don't know how the how it works i'm just i'm just really not certain i guess as long as i mean as long as the results are not from like some injustice that's happening it's all right for example when you see some numbers that are really skewed you should look at them and find out like why they are even like even even if it's not as a result of an injustice even if it is just like you know what this the society is like obsessed with telling fucking i'd know yep world war one stories and as a result very few women are getting roles because it's like literally the majority of art that the society produces is world war one stuff about like men on the front lines there are very few at that point it's like oh then like that's a problem in itself because if you're a woman and you want to go into like acting you're probably getting shafted well that's that's the interesting part of the conversation is it is why are people making the decisions that they're making on what stories they want to tell and who are in them what is what is the uh why why would they be it's not that they're doing anything wrong at all it's more of a question of like now why are you making that decision is there some broader societal influence that's making you make this decision and is that resulting in a very disproportionate in a way that excludes a lot of people from having an opportunity to participate yeah I'm not sure how I feel about that if for some reason we have a future where everybody only want to tell stories about world war two and therefore women weren't getting roles I'd be like um is the suggestion here that we mandate stories that involve women well no I mean that's the thing that you can't I don't think I ever want to you can't no like this it's not a problem that has like a a real solution it's just like man that that that sucks yeah there was a result that's definitely not ideal that just happened to be what it is I guess the problem might not be the right word it's like you don't it's like is it a problem that a lot of sport like basketball for instance you're not gonna see a lot of obese short people you're not being represented in basketball you know I guess at the same time with acting is not a is a very different thing to basketball I find that an interesting example actually it's the idea of it's it is a field where you need to be able to compete at a certain level to be able to perform and so then the question would be why are certain people I did that level it was fucking hard okay that level is pain people in chat you know pain but it's done I only want to watch gay porn femoids femoids most effective only gay state mandated gay porn yes the state starts mandating straight porn be made to get femo porn stars some work there's just one guy out there who wants it and he's like I will watch all of it many times I will support this industry actually what about high school musical what about high school musical yeah I'm not sure I'm not sure how that works you need more information than that yeah why is the chat just full of people saying pain but I don't see any arguments here like well don't that doesn't regard you that's uh what is that what is this I just I just completed was probably the most glitchy and hard level in this game and I it's it's it's amazing I got it on the first try it's a fucking horrible level it's not as bad as the poisoned river one okay we'll do that one next I'm really waiting for this person to say what about high school musical yeah well what was the high school musical thing about and in another way is it it's someone said it's terrible acting but it's about basketball is that I don't know if that is that is that you're so it's about it's about like dancing so well here's the thing a main character whose name is I don't know it's probably chatter Travis for some shit like that he wants to be he's on a star basketball team he's very good at playing basketball he plays basketball with his best friend Corbin blue right however it turns out that he's also a really excellent singer and he's really good at like theatrical stuff you know so that's kind of the conflict as he's torn between my first family my basketball family and going through and winning the state championships and whatever the fuck high schoolers do and or or is this it's like it's like spider-man essentially do I want to be a superhero on the court or do I want to be I mean or do I want to be a superhero on the on the stage play or something like that he's like he's juggling two lives and they start getting the way of one another right and some friends want him to do this and other people want him to do that and he's kind of hiding it from the basketball people because it's not as cool to be in plays and stuff so but don't forget about the girl though that's he's torn because he really likes the girl and you know she she likes to sing but he yeah you know his dad wants him to play basketball but yeah his best friend wants him to do basketball his girlfriend Vanessa Hudgens who is fired because her nudes relaked wait really yeah who's fired for that apparently what are you talking about fired from what high school musical I what are you talking about wasn't she an old three of them what are you talking about I'm pretty sure it was an old three of them so I think there were she I don't think she was in all of them yes she was were there not more then with three she was a little three because I remember I sort of remember the first in this show wasn't someone else the other one definitely it was definitely her and I want to say that she might not it influenced the her higher ability she was either fired or not signed on for other things in the future because of that because you know especially if you're Disney at the time you think like she had other projects with Disney that I can believe that I think that I think that's almost certainly the case because I don't think she did anything after that I mean she didn't even do anything like how was that her fault well that's where I was going to go next I don't I don't necessarily think that that means it didn't have or anything I'm just saying like that sucks oh here it is so yeah apparently in 2007 photos were leaked and it was speculated that she'd get dropped from high school musical three but then Walt Disney were like nah it's all good that's good then it happened again it happened again two years later apparently oh no and that's uh I mean if if it's got nothing if someone's hacking a phone or whatever like yeah that's what I mean I it's not it's not it's a massive breach of privacy like it's it's really bad yeah yeah nice cool music um this fucks sake this is really awkward this is super awkward so apparently at the time she she kind of like apologized for the fact that the photos even existed and that was the reason why she got to stay on high school musical because I was like well she said she was sorry I mean it's like sorry what I guess it depends on nature of how she put them out I guess though yeah but if they were leaked I was gonna say I thought they were private and they were leaked then um because that's different then I decided to like maybe in my contract because of you know the role in the age group and demographic I agreed to not do certain things man I decided to do them but I it sounds like she was man imagine like you sign a Disney contract and it says you cannot take pictures of yourself naked it's like oh you you cannot speak openly about being an atheist problem I don't know what you want not sure I don't know about that one so it looks like um now let me see I'm not bad yeah I don't I don't really care that much well oh whatever happened to Hilary Duff she was another one of those she uh isn't everything huh huh I'm not sure I think she did a couple of things she's in some tv shows I think yeah yeah but but in Zac Efron what's he up to he's in loads of stuff easy yeah I'm sure he's fine career-wise I remember him being a good actor and all the stuff that I've seen him in well the thing is I am I think ages ago I agreed to do a an unbridled praise of high school musical if um if I reach a million subs I can't remember I think it was I think it was geeks and game is Jeremy I think I told him I would so I to this day said if you can find that clip I will honor it you don't want to do it just because you love high school musical and you you want to further the craft of uh I think that if I was to praise that film it might actually be detrimental to the film because I can't quite grasp just how incredible it is and I wouldn't want to reduce it by trying to box it in you know well would you say that that film maybe it wasn't made for you I think it was it was made for everybody Rex well that's maybe that's true yeah maybe high school musical really was made for everybody that's true except Steve except Steve fuck that guy yeah high school musical isn't I think Steve has interesting things to say I just don't agree with him with anything okay it's just it's high school okay that's not like mutual exclusive he has interesting things to say about some stuff but high school musical was not made for him yeah Hitler no I it's when you said fuck Steve I was like I I don't agree that we should just entirely write Steve off that's all I see I see you Steve in chat I know you're there I got you back Steve I'm not not even in chat just watching sorry you've not said anything in chat but yeah I know that you're here watching Steve is always watching because Steve is always watching Steve hate watches EFAP because we praise high school musical yeah I knew those fuckers were up to no good how much is Disney paying you all of the money so much that they can even boot-fringy at will he wasn't praising high school musical enough like I said I love high school musical probably the greatest trilogy was ever made Lord of the Rings is kind of like blushes in its presence yeah I I don't want to throw too much shade at um Lord of the Rings but man high school musical it's a cut above that yep one of the things I really like about the high school musical trilogy is that it ends on such a high enough die no oh we've lost springy we did he's he's gone he's gone gone forever uh how long has he been gone oh just like like 30 seconds because just the way you said that made me think has he been gone for like ages and I've just noticed and I'm a bad person well I wouldn't exclude all of those bonus comments there but yes he's been only gone briefly like 15 seconds and then you noticed which still kind of makes you a bad person just kind of we noticed immediately yeah because we care anyway bible an unbridled rage when if that was ever to be made by e-fap related people rags would do a way better job than I would it would be me and I'll have a lot of fun uh no bs should play jay and movie bob should oh no bs should play jay movie bob should play rags molla played by chris duckman and fringy played by an actual frog I mean yeah could work this is the thing about adaptation I just want to see these things play out see how well they go see if they can capture the spirit of our characters hopefully they can now this this is for the e-fap trilogy I guess so yeah I wonder what the the three films we got to make sure that well we got to make sure that the trilogy gets done and uh in the right amount of time it can't take too long because we don't want to bring you an accurate approach would they all be 24 hour long and they're all about our road to critiquing things lonely mm-hmm charles dance voice they did it all right the way that they did it oh dude he would nail those lines it wouldn't even be a question he would study jarred videos for hours he'd be like this character sport better be accurate oh nikolas cage would play sport yeah that's that's an easy casting I'd say I think everybody would have expected that oh no fringy oh no it's happening he's just booping back in and out oh god why is this water not splashing him none of it's hitting him what is this glitching yugioh would be perfect for efat minis just saying it's a gold mine what is yugioh yugioh apparently is a gold mine I don't know maybe maybe oh no fringy well what happened someone attack you and that doing the floats the emus they've been getting bolder they're approaching people into occupying our territory it's it's getting a little bit worrying at the moment I'm not gonna lie the emu resistance is starting to sabotage our internet infrastructure you can call them the emu resistance if you want but that's I mean that would be that's loaded wrecks the terraces yeah we're gonna be accurate that's what they are um so I want to hang out with walrus this is a fuck mary kill for fictional inventors and you got fictional indentures yeah so yeah we got melina from black widow so that's an automatic kill she's killed yeah shuri from black panther and walrus walrus from walrus and grommet oh i'm wearing walrus yeah who yeah we're mary walrus seems like a a good provider you know yeah I want to hang out with walrus and if that means I get to hang out with grommet too then it's like a guaranteed yeah yes which leaves I can't believe you're marrying him just to get to get well wait I just want to clarify that leaves the one option for the one person and the the only way that happens is as long as shuri is fucking correct age I have no idea how old she is in in the canon all right yeah that's that's a yeah what yeah 18 year old shuri right um yeah I'd fuck the shit out of 18 year old shuri in mary walrus and just fucking kill stab malina again and again malina's gone oh no no malina's gone I want her don't stab her I want her to suffocate with that fucking machine she built yeah I want to watch her as the light leaves her eyes and she collapses on the floor and like you made this you know what a family of pigs do it to her and they laugh as she suffocates yeah yeah the family of pigs like just have her set up on a pike they put her on the pike roaster over the fire it's like now you know how it feels and there's like isn't this fucking great technology malina isn't this technology so fucking cool I will I will say like the walrus thing is like imagine all the contraption need to be building around the house yeah super walrus and grommet is excellent I feel like we don't talk about oddman stuff much just because they don't do as much at the moment but walrus and grommet is like one of the best things just one of the great it's one of those things that nobody dislikes from what I gather know it's um elegant and inventive he does honest work he doesn't cheat or steal he has the capacity to have love interests he takes good care of his his dog his best friend he you know he's a good guy he'll do what's right he'll do what's right yeah now walrus and grommet is nice and they're a nice and wholesome pair he runs yeah he's got a good good home life he gets up on time and he slides into breakfast and all that good stuff and he slides into all sorts of things to go get those rabbits and not a fan of the animation how can man so it's okay it's okay someone can not be a fan of it it's okay I think it's wonderful animation yeah um as an as an English child at my school some of the animators who worked on walrus and grommet came in to do a talk at my school well la dee da no here's the here's the thing right so I was a child I was really dumb as a child so right imagine you get to ask the anime to the the question uh any question to the people who made walrus and grommet you can ask them anything you like you said you like cheese what'd you ask them I'm almost embarrassed oh I am embarrassed to admit the question that I asked them was did you guys make shrek what did they say I was like I was like six okay well that's a fun no we made a different masterpiece yeah well I mean and that that is an accurate statement they did make a different masterpiece walrus and grommet the curse of the wear rabbit is like fantastic the movie's so inventive and full of charm it's a really cool movie I am broke I'm not sure if I like I'm not sure whether I like it more than chicken chick that's a tough one chicken or not I think I that's a tough one I'm not sure which one I could say that I like more I like both of them so much and you know what because I'm sure you've all seen that you guys I should show you the pirates in an adventure with scientists that's uh that was one of the ones they made later on really entertaining yeah nobody did that's the problem not enough people watched to what it came out that including me and that's a really great movie the animation is amazing and um has like uh it has through the cast in that movie a stack they got like um I can't believe I'm blanking on his name they had I think it was Hugh Grant they had um David Tennant um Martin Freeman had a whole bunch of people in that movie that's a great cast it's a real good cast there's a movie that just no one heard of that shit so well the problem is that like what's it called I don't know like uh the pirates in an adventure with scientists that's an awkward title that's an awkward title this is a charming title to me I don't know but oh yeah I like it but um it's from a marketing standpoint it's not super smart to probably name it like that what's it called it Shang Chi and the Ten Rings or something I think the reason why it didn't do so well is just because unfortunately like admin movies the most successful ones they made were like Wallace and Gromit and Chicken Run and those made about 200-300 million it's like that's that's pretty good it ain't Pixar numbers though it ain't Disney theatrical numbers at that time um I think it's just an issue of well it made enough money to justify its existence but it didn't make enough money to justify a sequel and I'm not sure if you know this but you remember the movie Flushed Away when you remember that yeah I remember that Hugh Jackman so the sequel would have been Chicken Run well the sequel to the the pirates one I think was I saw right I got it yeah I just but there was going to be a sequel to the pirates one I think it was going to be pirates in an adventure with god damn it I think it was Cowboys I think that was what it was and it's like man I would I would have loved to have seen that but but yeah so the as the story goes and I say as the story goes this is just true they got a five-picture movie deal with Dreamworks they made the first two Chicken Run and Wallace and Gromit both those made money and then they made Flushed Away which was the most expensive one and it lost its money and then that ended the deal early and the deal was over well apparently I don't think I ever saw Flushed Away I remember seeing it and I don't remember much about it I don't remember nearly as much about it as like Chicken Run and Stone Andy Circus isn't it right he's like one of the he is in it he plays one of the the rat henchmen that had a stacked cast too Kate Winslet was in that one yeah I remember um I remember the jokes about the french frogs that's the shit that's I do remember oh people want to to say it was changed to Pirate's Band of Misfits in the US yes it was but the actual name is Pirates in an Adventure with Scientists that's what I'm going to call it Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone because America doesn't know what a philosopher is it is the Philosopher's Stone that's the name of the book because they I don't know have no idea I'm gonna google that I'm actually kind of interested it really it really feels like they think they have to dub it down for an American audience well it is an interesting thing right so behind the scenes on Wallace and Gromit they were pushed aggressively to make it more American which is like it was changed by the American publisher Scholastic because it thought American children wouldn't want to read a book with philosopher in the title wow which I mean you're probably correct but also can we not do this please I don't know about that if they if they already know it's magic related and it's a magical stone from a philosopher like I don't know if that really does that make the difference like oh no a philosopher's stone well if you think about like with a kid brain and in a young child's mind because a lot of people were quite young who read this and they were very much kids books when they first came out I feel like that would be like every kid knows what a Sorcerer is but a lot of kids wouldn't even know what a philosopher is I mean every kid knows what it is a thing as a child I literally thought that was called like I didn't know what the word philosopher was as a child and I thought it was because I didn't read this this was like I was very young my mum read me these books so as a child I thought it was like just the name of the stone it was called like the philosopher's stone or something and that's what it was also I'm not convinced that all kids know what a Sorcerer is I reckon all kids know what a wizard is but I think it was wizard stone so it was called the wizard stone yeah but Sorcerer seems a bit unlikely or less likely philosopher though this stone like in Full Metal Alchemist it's the philosopher's stone that's subject of changing things in America it is interesting to think about that you would be like where Dreamworks we're gonna pay Aardman to make a Wallace and Gromit movie make that more American that's like dude Wallace and Gromit is like quintessential British it's very British constantly British it's insanely British why would you try to change it to and I think apparently it's kind of like killing floor one and two the first killing floor is very British right and the second one is not nearly so much well I mean this might be the awkward reality British stuff often doesn't do as well like his American stuff even when exposed to equivalent markets in terms of showing like um I mean you've got things like you know James Bond and stuff that do really well but but yeah the Aardman films just did make it how British is James Bond yeah I feel like he's a he's a you know he's a British well like the character isn't a quintessentially British thing hi I had enough of that I I don't know that I agree with that here's here's what I mean by that generally the the things that happen in the movies in terms of the action and the set pieces and the places they go they're not British in the same sense that Wallace and Gromit yes so yeah as in I think you could I what I mean by that is you could remove the Britishness and still capture the appeal of James Bond what I would I would do a better clarification than that I think James Bond James Bond is more approachable English I think it's more approachably British than Wallace and Gromit because it's just the thing that a lot of people think when they think of British when they don't know much about that country was it like oh yeah posh accents suave and like sophisticated yeah that's like I could believe that American person wrote James Bond about British people in the same way like couldn't even even American person wrote Wallace and Gromit I mean I'm not sure that I would go that far I think I think it is just a matter of I it is more approachable to all right now we're on cringe level number two okay guys this will be paying nobody's hearing this yes we can hear you we can hear you yeah I'm you'd on stream no I can't hear that dude you missed out on fucking like five words you'll be fine it would have been more if I hadn't stopped but anyway no because you I would be when you were saying that you'd stopped okay all right I'm just saying that on this subject I think you look at like Wallace and Gromit's like there's a lot that's probably gonna go over your head like if you don't know anything about British culture where it's I don't think James Bond is is like that in terms of what it is yeah like you'd be I do think it's British Bond you might be like oh they say MI6 instead of CIA that's how how very British yeah exactly literally if you flip if you flip the script just I don't feel like it would be a hard change to make it an American film franchise I think you would lose something if it wasn't British I think James Bond I think James brought I guess I just don't agree I think James Bond is British I think it has a British identity yeah I I just not yes I'm not too invested to argue it but yeah James Bond is super British as far as I'm concerned not as British as maybe uh Wallace and Gromit um and at the same time you know hot the Cornetta trilogy is fucking hyper British and yeah that's popular as hell well you said that that those Guy Ritchie movies those are insanely British they're very British you're choking on the Britishness in those movies but I feel like you just brought up a good example because Hot Fuzz, Short of the Dead and World's End collectively didn't make more than $200 million like British stuff that is not really that just doesn't yes damn dude those films are popular in retrospect but collect run it is less than Chicken Run you're right and Chicken Run made less money than Monster's Inc which came out a year later and made less money than Tarzan that kind of just goes to show like the money made compared to the fucking legacy of those films you know oh yeah I think it's I mean I think the legacy well I mean another example is Treasure Planet that film didn't make like a whole lot of money but a lot of people talk about Treasure Planet well I like Treasure Planet but I do have I do have a question that maybe people in chat can answer so like Treasure Planet is a it's like an ancient it's kind of almost the same as a halo ring it's like a thing that existed for a long time that's super crazy and uh high tech how did the pirates who went there to bury the treasure rig the planet to explode is that something that's even possible for them to do we don't know well we have to assume the answer is yes because the planet explodes I think all we know about the um the pirate what's the pirate captain what his name was I can't remember his name yeah uh uh face blackbeard was that he was like super well known and infamous for how terrifying he was and he had a lot of an incredible treasure and vast wealth so I mean they certainly had the resources to maybe do that but I don't know there's there's so much about this universe we don't know in terms of that's true yeah technology it's I did the super hard lily pad level I'm so proud it would be like that's the only thing I remember about it being like hmm I'm not sure about that but otherwise I do like that maybe a lot it's kind of it reminds me of uh Titan AE oh I remember that was I watched it as a kid a lot and I really really liked it but apparently it's the one a lot of people haven't heard of and it's much one it bombs it's it totally bombed actually I was gonna say I have a memory of that that it didn't do well yeah that was the 2d era when like Roy's Eldorado Sinbad Emperor's New Groove and and stuff like that it's just all not doing as well and those are all I even the Sinbad one I really liked Sinbad's okay from what I remember I really watched Emperor's New Groove and that film was fucking hilarious and the animation is great y'all should go yeah those in chat you should go see those movies that we talked about all of the ones we just talked about every single fucking one even Titan AE that we haven't heard of Mola Uwumi turns gay it's all right it was always there you know it was always there um about the smud tweets I don't I think people are uncomfortable discussing things about race for good and rational reasons but stereotypes do come from reality I'll be real careful when you say something like that too exactly what you mean I don't know that any stereotypes were being discussed in in all of those tweets but that is true I suppose stereotypes could theoretically still come from just like um lies being repeated or understandings that are mistaken being repeated that could come from like a popular portrayal you know that too I meant the live-action Scooby-Doo but whatever works best for you guys yeah yeah I I would be up for watching them as well yeah I would have felt I haven't seen them in a long time so that could be a that could be fun to do bye for you bye again oh no he really doesn't want to see live-action no you guys excited for the possibility of beta for bf 2042 this weekend so battlefield I hear the rumors are true the lack of appearance at games common radio silence from da a dice and ea is rather frustrating you know anything about that regs I am out of the loop apparently there's a I guess all I suppose they mean there's going to be a beta for the next battlefield game and without any like it sounds like they're saying like there's just been nothing in terms of like marketing about this I don't know I haven't I I legit haven't been keeping up with it I don't really do that with games anymore I just don't yeah I just do that some there's so many disappointments and so many things change and I just don't just wait for him to come out and give him a shot well literally yes that's what I do I wait until they come out what a super challenge just now saying I only caught the first five minutes of this so I don't know if he threw smarter than the bus but he's streaming right now and he's doing a much better job explaining himself and his arguments then on twitter shocking I know I would fucking hope so good it would be hard for him to do a worse job because like he contradicted himself a lot and then also just said lots of blatant things like like crazy stuff yeah some of his tweets were good not tweets that I'd say that's no put it that way and rags only does good tweets that's true that's true all of my tweets are gold nuggets but his are they're they're nuggets but they're like old chicken nuggets well that means they're still edible right a lot of his dances are dumb anyway so like even if he's explaining his arguments well they're still like argue like they can't be that good wow fucking Jay smud boy civil war spaghetti unless he has different positions to the one he was saying the ones he was saying on twitter was it all just for the memes who knows who can say who can say Lance you're a coward never show your face again I'm assuming that's related to the serfs and um he's super cowardly but I mean you can get better hopefully like holy shit like it's good a bit harder about it yeah acting good but it can be better he was uh it was a dreadful performance for a debate and and his fucking fans have made him very aware of that so I imagine that he will improve hopefully no promises though it is within this capacity hopefully fingers crossed or maybe it isn't maybe he really is just that stupid and I'm willing to change or learn who knows you should do that one-on-one with Lauren Southern I think that would be hilarious it walks the fuck out of that you're quick CGI jicked chicken into Luther's hands oh that's I get it um I don't anyone remembers it but card infinite warfare is one of the worst stories I've ever consumed the stf a cartoon villains who tell the good guys to surrender for execution and main protagonist is textbook gary stew I don't think I played infinity warfare sorry infinite warfare did you uh I did not I played advanced warfare but I did not play infinite warfare why was it called infinite warfare what's the infinite relevant to the future was in space oh unlike spaces so what infinite mean what that's why I was asking like because it's like infinite I guess implies like infinite horizons which is often the so you know associated with space and that kind of thing so it's like oh infinite we've gone out into like infinite space and it's endless and so it's big and grand scale it's like infinity more importantly it's just a cool sounding word and that's why they chose it oh is it now it's true is a call of duty game and that's literally all the thought that they decided who gets to decide what words are cool and I work for the department of words how do they pay is it good uh could be better there isn't any amount of money I wouldn't pay to hear Charles Danse oh my god he's a queer oh my god he's a queer that was like the first incredible moment on EFAP that was amazing did not see that coming hey more and friends you should all try Gears Tactics it's like XCOM but you'll rarely miss even a 90% to hit also it's free on Game Pass is Gears Tactics Gears of War but XCOM because I don't know much about it I that's what I've heard it described as but that's my that's the extent of my knowledge on it I don't know if it's good or not I just haven't I don't really hear about it ever yeah I know I enjoyed the Gear 5 campaign quite a bit that was fun to play I played it with myself and friend of mine and I enjoyed it I really did I really was a lot to like about Gears 5 I don't know anything about it though I loved Gears 2 I was obsessed with that one on 360 for a long time first and second and third I played and finished and I liked them all I don't think I got oh I think I missed four and the like judgment or something whatever it's called and then I played five dude that'd be so weird if if we got reset like back to our you know earlier ages and stuff but we were still aware of each other like I always thought like how would we be able to find each other do you reckon because you we would both have been on 360 live so we're theoretically able to find each other but like how would we do that ooh um so I was playing I didn't start YouTube until after I moved to the PC stuff oh would my here's the here's the big question would I if I had stuck with the Xbox and never gone to 360 or so if I had stuck with the 360 in the Xbox and never gone to PC would that have sufficiently been enough of an impact to make me not do YouTube stuff would I have stuck with my yeah that's an interesting question as well I don't know maybe you'd find another reason to you know it's possible but if I had still gotten well that's the thing if I would have if I would have wanted to do the YouTube stuff I would have had to have gotten the PC really to do this yeah so that probably would have equated into me being the gamer that I was going into gaming could one argue though that it was inevitable for you because you appreciate like things that about gaming that PC is going to be more preferable for that's the thing I think that I arrived at my transition to PC in a very like it wasn't just I just decided one day that's probably cool I'll do that it was eventually I had just seen so much and gotten little taste of it here and there at friends houses and seen enough talk about it to where I eventually decided all right I've heard enough let's see what it's all about and then I very quickly became full PC gamer um got a curiosity rags how's your review of Gears 5 going I still played oh like I finished it ages ago I guess it was just never I've got it I have the file on my computer it just never saw the light of day maybe I could release that on dog bites oh yeah if it's a cool video yeah I hadn't even I finished it and I had to do one of those a week and I like doing them I tried games that I wouldn't have tried before maybe um I don't know maybe geeks and gamers or someone like that maybe they could use a game reviewer I don't know it was nice to make these short little 10 10 15 minute reviews of these games and I do one a week and so I'd play a new game that week and it would be an indie game or I'd finally review one that I've been playing for a while and it was kind of nifty to do that and kind of put your thoughts into a game and convince them into 10 to 15 minutes I was still though we completely tangented I was I was I thought my question was interesting how would we find each other we would have had to well if we've only got because maybe it's cheating to say we've got anything more than the screen names to work with and the histories that have been available through eFap to know oh the histories that are available for eFap I mean anything we've said on eFap that's what you get to work with like I haven't told you my direct address but had I I'd be like oh so that's kind of cheating even though I don't know if you knew that that still wouldn't help you because I wasn't living there when I was doing 360 days so it's like hmm I would have so we would have had to hear of each other first oh no I don't mean so I mean you have the knowledge you have now it's all in your brain but you get rewound and you know I know that this is stupid because there's so many other things you'd be doing but let's just pretend for a second that the I'm curious about how you probably want to find like me freeing you whoever else to talk to how would you do it so that's me I'm whoever else hello no metal like if I time travel back those years ago with my current knowledge yeah and you were like man it would be you know you're playing some 360 stuff again your free time you're like oh you know freeing more they're around at this point I wonder if I get to find them because one plan would be to try the game attacks see if you can get a at a laptop again like I was curious what information could be used to try and narrow it down I wonder oh I could just send the messages through their youtube emails right I don't know if the youtube channel mine wouldn't have existed at that point the one I use now I don't know I think what makes it so hard to answer is because the way that we all kind of met up was a strange spider web of coincidences and happenstances well I would probably be trying rags everywhere I just feel like maybe maybe because that name because here's the thing I never used that name until I just decided to use it on youtube in that case that would be useless to me like my other names and handles for things were just different things for different things there was really no there was just no rhyme or reason to it so I don't know how you would possibly find me I was gonna say it could get to the point where it's a little bit impossible which would suck I'd have to wait until I know that you would have yeah I'd be looking for a youtube channel called rags until it finally pops up in 20 it was like 2015 or something like that yeah because while I while I was of course rags the dog always because that's my name I didn't use it on the internet for anything until you know the youtube stuff so that would have been that would be very difficult to do for you to find me would have been I don't even know how you managed to do it I know metal would have started his channel at 2014 ish on twitch so I'd find him there Jay I'd know your that's the question I was like so if we all had the brains we have now but we're transported back to super young tisms how would we be able to find each other again online or would it be kind of impossible because we don't have enough details I like find each other online or just find each other in general online I guess Molar I know your name yeah that's what I mean so that's like the almost the advantage well the funny thing about that is I'm not sure if you can actually would you be able to find me still even if you have my name um I maybe not I just dreamed so um because my I if you know what if you know what to look then yeah but you'd have to get into some dubious areas yeah to really get what you want true yeah that's true well the funny thing is if if I had the memory as well and you finally contact like my fucking house phone or some shit I'm like what the hell you're like remember me I'm like how did you find this number you're like that's not important Molar it's fine what's important is that I'm from the future yeah oh I like to edit this before you got the game the name Molar and you're just like what yeah well I had that name for a while I was called Molar on I who I can't remember if I was on Xbox 360 actually I think I was in the last like few years so I'm probably still as active but um like like it would be working back then the the I just find it interesting because of the fact that it'd be like oh we need to have played Gears of War 2 and Mon Wolf Air 2 and Halo 3 were you guys back then you know that would have been it's not really the same Jay it's not really the same fuck you I'm waiting on fishing chips to arrive it's been on its way for a while now fishing chips oh my god terrible oh yeah she's yeah fish and chips oh what that meant to be ma'am what if I like didn't watch Black Panther for whatever reason I wonder if Jay and I still would have met I don't know probably not I see him I mean Game of Thrones certainly wouldn't have wouldn't have done it maybe Star Wars maybe every time you don't watch an MCU movie a Jay dies what was the thing we talked about like how we've ended up where we are but it's like there's probably a lot of timelines with a lot of really good friends that we've not met because we didn't watch the things that would have led to it somehow we've had different lives yeah but I had different lives it's the kind of conversation this is the kind of conversation that would normally happen on one of Fringy Streams yeah kind of I don't know we talked about weird shit on A5 all the time well deep emotionally charged existential shit something like that yeah that that's normally where Fringy Streams go I don't know why what was it the the last string Fringy answers himself an intellectual guys not my fault where this comes up it probably is somewhat your fault yeah well it's a responsibility to your actions frango yeah dude personal responsibility Fringy drives in a 2022 Acura NDX SH that's my all wheel drive advantage I uh I definitely do not is there a supercharged v8 in there no honestly probably sweet it's probably at least it's probably a quite quick car so anyway oh yeah the last one Fringy I don't know if you were here was about as they said infinity war look at the card game had a cartoon villains telling good guys to surrender for execution and main protagonist is textbook Gary stew I don't know if there's any comment on that so I I didn't play that I didn't play that game but I know that in the opening cut scene of that game Kit Harrington plays the villain and he literally does the thing where it's like kills you know I don't care about my men so he shoots his own man and then he suffocates to death on the surface of this planet it's like dude this is so like I hate that though I hear people say like oh no the campaign that's it's actually solid in that one I'm not inclined to believe that but I don't know I there's like cool duty stagnating again you had like modern warfare and that was kind of new and interesting and now it's gone back to just it's just gone right act to where it's almost like oh shit modern warfare a lot of people talked about that and bought it and played it keep making it no I'm not even if it was like a regress or most like that new one looks like a regress for modern warfare and modern warfare it was just looks like shit yeah it looks like it looks like cool shit it looks like a mobile game what is this and that's kind of the new call of duty that's coming out all of duty and this doesn't look good and all of duty I think it's just modern warfare was like a presentation that I was not expecting like that game actually looks great you pop the bubbles you get the oxygen that's how it works I was in the oxygen give me any boo like the the cut scenes for modern warfare are legitimately some of the most gorgeous I've ever seen in my life unfortunately reload animation they ruin unfortunately they ruin that because they will load the level as that scene is playing so that gorgeous ass cut scene even on my hyper amazing computer especially for a game like this is stuttering because the game is like no no no no no it has to load the next level during the cut scene while it's playing and so the cut scene will stuff stutter and try like to like buffer yeah because of that that was unreal so the job end up shooting yourself in the own foot your own foot after making that gorgeous cut scene and then making it stutter that was unreal when I was playing it's like dude what is going on? this is just not working at all very distracting brilliant very coomy yeah this new one just very coomy it just looks generic I know I know we talked about it before but it's like World of War that that game like has an identity it has a style it has an edginess an awkwardiness that I really like and this new one just looks like sanitized World War II again it looks like it just looks it it looks like Call of Duty game yeah yeah so do you have any hopes that Shang-Chi will be any good? nope no no hope it'll be good because phase four but the interesting thing with Shang-Chi compared to other stuff is like I just have no I don't think I'll be interested at all yeah I don't care which I know someone might be like why is that so special it's like I don't I don't think I think that's the first property in in the MCU that I've just given no shits about the phase four uh phase four about a new character that doesn't involve any of the previous stuff at all like yeah I don't care and it's not yeah we know it's not going to respect what came before at all because they don't care about that in phase four at all and then you know the end will be like we need you for the avengers and that's all I'm going to need to know outside of Fringy telling me his rings make him able to shoot fireballs or something I'll be like okay yeah and anything that touches is not going to have any actual impact on the world and it will be some poor shit that they retroactively pull from their asses so that this movie has a justification for existing and it just won't feel like for the there's it is an MCU only in name now everyone's just doing their own thing there's no some I mean especially now that you've got Fiege saying yeah we can't have the avengers in this Black Widow movie because you know we won't do that because she's a strong woman so fuck it and it's not going to connect to that movie you're just you know he's a he doesn't want men supporting her and stuff he's like what about the female avengers then can we get them in I'll be curious what his response to that will be Captain Marvel yeah great she would just she would just win unlike Black Widow in the film who just automatically fucking wins everything too like in theory the only thing in the universe that could slow her down the power stone is now destroyed so yep kind of has card blondes to just do whatever the fuck she wants that was the big worry when they were giving the stones back cap was like we can't stop Captain Marvel goes rogue I'm like yep and then Cap was like fuck it I'm going to go hang out with Agent Carter yep she's cooler than all of you where did you train in a scavenger town from sheave oh that line needs to be in everything ever because it is an artwork on its own all right so I just noticed something you're blowing water onto the dirty teeth and it makes them clean but underwater interesting I can still work if you have like a fast torrent of water underwater yeah but that means that your torrents is incredibly fast compared to anything that he could find well mine's focused too and it's all whenever he goes back down into his little hidey hole it reams like dirties the teeth that aren't fully clean so he's just he's really making it harder for himself yeah I'm just trying to help him and he's like and he's getting mad because I mean one of the teeth fell out when I cleaned it so he's probably pissed about that but I mean I'm still helping it's pretty less it would have fallen out eventually yeah like who knows how much pain it was causing and potential infection so helping you out buddy my teeth falling out or breaking is one of like my most recurring nightmares that's fun I've had that too where all your teeth are just like weird and crackly and they just sort of get loose and fall out I gotta get like fake teeth and everything it's like it's not it's not as distressing as it could be based on like what that actually is but still like it's not a pleasant dream to have I thought yeah look at my teeth it's it's like parts you falling off or whatever but in the in the least scary way or one of the least scary ways because you can deal with it yeah like this is deal like I could just get replacements for it you know but it's just like wow like is this gonna happen anything else like what if my nose just falls off one day mm-hmm I don't know my balls ah oh no oh this is this is holy fuck some ting wong me too low bang ding ow those were the the ones that the news report are read out if you guys remember I do remember that yeah some ting wong being one of the funniest fucking things then hire those people for their intelligence all right apparently that happened recently uh I was they were showing me a real BBC there's like some kind of I don't know meeting for I'm kind of like counseling meeting where people were talking and they were summoning people by name and he was like the the announce was like Phil McCracken Phil McCracken is there a Phil McCracken be like no he read out like fucking six of them or all like that it's just being shit around as like he has a fucking Simpsons boba just bo maybe he's I'm a stupid moron yeah I know what these are I'm gonna read him out anyway he's like this will go viral it'll be funny yeah butt smells and I like to kiss my own butt wait a minute worst pizza topping pineapple chunks crushed pineapple can of pineapple sludge pineapple rings or pineapple fragmentation grenade I feel like the the grenade's probably gonna be the worst one actually yeah the grenade yeah that could probably actually hurt you so um yeah I don't want that I mean I like pineapple I might I might after eating pancake it's fine that you like pineapple on pizza it's okay yeah that's cute just taste it it's okay that you think that tastes good it's tastes like actual no it's not it doesn't even taste like asshole I was gonna say you'd be in favor of that right asshole pizza it's just like it's just like a good I mean it's it has like a this this kind of like pineapple is this acidic tart kind of thing and on a pizza it's just ugh yeah I mean since I was a young and I bit and like first tried it I was like daa we've we've we've done something wrong here we've fucked it up you comboed up things that shouldn't be comboed up we've messed up the fabric of coffee yeah yeah we're this is what we get played with forces playing god you played with forces you don't understand I like playing with forces I don't understand and I think it's tasty let's take that super chat and expand upon it because fuck it we're gonna be here for the rest of our lives anyway um yay what is the least favorite topping that you've had that you've actually tried not counting pineapple because that's the obvious answer hmm has there been a topping that you legitimately hated I don't like capsicum at all and I don't like what is what's that it's a capsicum isn't that like that big kind of guinea pig that's a catchy word I know that's a character I know that's a character oh oh oh I mean you actually don't know what a capsicum is I think this I think this is the first time I've heard the word capsicum yeah I've never heard of that no I it's good because it has come in it yeah I'm I'm so far I'm interested because of the camp part yeah I can't believe that nobody you haven't heard of capsicum dude right now you could actually be trolling me like I'm not sure if you're just doing this for the fun is not you could I you could tell me that it's like so here is a here is a picture of cap here is a picture of capsicum it is a very real thing that exists oh I believe you are these peppers say um those are peppers oh bell peppers yeah but they're they're called capsicums yeah I can imagine I've never I've never too well on pizza I've never I've never I've never never heard them called that before in my life neither have I that is what they are called on wikipedia why do you sound so angry yeah I can't believe that you've never I'm surprised yeah not everyone's heard of everything I think that's pretty reasonable I've worked in I've worked in kitchens and all that sort of thing never heard them called that very familiar with lots of foods never heard of them called capsicum capsicum is a genus of flowering plant in the nightshade family Solanakay native to the Americas cultivated worldwide for their chili or bell pepper fruit do you know that I don't know where I've heard this word why I first heard this word was on where we covered the the picture that was just cropped so that it just said come yeah I vaguely I like bell peppers they're in terms of like one being hate ten being love and five being and they're probably like a six for me I like them I like the taste more than the texture yes and I like the taste more than the texture just like you Mahler and that's why I think that they wouldn't be that great on a pizza because pizza is generally more chewy for the most part with maybe the bottom being crunchy if it's made a certain way I got a little bit of crunch to it and the crust maybe a little bit as well but I feel like in the middle of it this is one of the reasons I despise onions I hate onions for the same reason taste good texture bad isn't it well uh taste I like onions but it's I don't like biting into something and getting that that onion squish that they have I hate it no what about what about just like little bits of onion you know like just like finely diced onion and and like oh no he's still if I'm man that's I really I really oh I like the you know what these onions more because I can identify them and remove them from my food before I eat you know what I will say when we're talking about least favorite like vegetable foods beetroot I cannot miss had that beetroot I can't I can't understand it uh you get these um you get these what I really like because you get these um beetroot burger patties which are like no no they're great it's in like no use them for a no please for a meat burger like if you're expecting like oh this is going to taste like a meat burger no it's clearly disappointed but just as like it's no like yeah that's great no what for you are you are you distinctly upset with me for this it's it's okay but like beetroot you're allowed to feel this way okay we allow leftist views here so that's okay that's a leftist view beetroot input of the left handed yes fried onions broccoli is amazing on pizza get out me I'm I'm I'm happy with broccoli on pizza I'm not sure I'd put broccoli on a pizza yeah yeah yeah yeah if I would had a like it's like get out our spinach on it's fine because they're very they're not very strong tasting things you're not a very strong tasting thing right oh but I am and it is oh what do you taste of uh I don't know what am I'm gonna eat and you are what you eat you are what you eat yeah right now I'm a chip so I'd be eager to know what you guys thoughts are on critically pointing out glitches and problems in a game that you were given a review code for normally this wouldn't be an issue IMO but sonic community is a fickle bunch you should point out bugs in a review copy thing yeah that's like a yeah that's a big that's a big flaw I mean you need to make sure you do that or that's what you're there to do is review it and if it's got a bunch of bugs and stuff you need to review that in your review that's important information you need to be aware of I'm not sure is the question implying like should you avoid it or a particular look I'm not sure I understand I guess I I think the question is if it's a review copy that it's probably not it might not be representative just make sure you tell people that yeah yeah just mention it was a review copy but you should still point it out my god I just fell off the map when I ended right at the beginning as opposed to falling in space I was lucky now to begin the whole thing in you also high rags and frango hello least I can do for doing the pachinko mission now you're going to try the lily pad one right I actually did the lily pad one to also kind of nightmarish but thank you very much you guys should get together and write a short story I'm interested in what you could make also hi molzer hi dingy and hi raga gaga and also hi gay hello hi yeah and I'm working on this one I'm working on a few there you go well I like that's just wouldn't be a collaborative effort because I do like the idea of like lots of you know talented folks coming together and writing yeah calling yourself talented yeah I'm immensely talented and my penis is enormous was it wasn't that a joke from that's a really fucking good joke for gaudi this too where like they're saying that um ego is sort of under under representing how amazing his planet is and then drax says I too am extraordinarily humble yeah that was great and you've got yeah no you've got I'd be I'd be curious to see what would happen if like we all had one character of our own that we wrote we well we talked about this before if you remember yes we have I remember that combo in that sense we wouldn't like be able to plan out what the actual event or the ending of the story is we would just like we would come up with our characters and see how they interact with each other well what if we got what if the experiment was we know what the scenario will be but we don't know who the other characters are so it's four characters in this place well maybe what maybe like like you know like a cube type thing well what you this is like something that would work really really well if y'all were ever interested in doing like a dnd game dnd oh yeah that would be fun I mean I would like to try Dungeons & Dragons yeah I'd like to try it at some point there you go um it could be that we were all given us a static sort of thing about where the characters will end up scenario wise but we get to write you know how they got there yeah wait you know what like that's right it's like actually a pretty good idea that feels like something that we should do yeah it's like a fap dnd campaign yeah that would be great definitely I would be very keen on that as well there is a I do know people who have offered to do that sort of thing I messaged you about it uh later or like I didn't message you about it later that hasn't happened yet I messaged you earlier even that's redundant but I guess it's still more accurate about this kind of thing too so it's definitely something that I would you know I would be very keen on doing it was a pleasure to hear your brain working as that all happened yeah I feel you know sometimes sentences or journeys not estimations as people all pointed out and chat dnd fap yeah dnd fap it is well different super chats before when you say it's not impossible not impossible at all yeah but that just means probably not normally doesn't it well I for the record I'm very keen on the idea so it's up to everyone else in getting that organized and getting a good schedule but I guess we're used to having a good schedule for you I was going to say that's probably going to be more so rags is like going to be the one to do most I have no fucking clue how any of it works but I'm glad to show up and be a character that's fine with me it was like if someone someone super chats and going you should watch the 1987 Bully Black and White six hour film called Schlumpjallon and it's a very it's a very it's a very niche project that's uh got some unique ideas in it and some of the scenes are just you know nothing happens in them at all and that's part of the art you should you guys should watch that I feel like your answer would be that's it's not impossible jokes on you have seen Schlumpjallon ah fuck specifically is it better or worse than LaFromage oh LaFromage is a fucking cinematic magic oh dude we got we got some burning in the chat incoming Fringy be ready sounds like he's ready Fringy before you go on I will say to Jay we did watch a six hour movie where nothing fucking happens it's called I'm Thinking of Ending Things and it was miserable that was 12 hours what do you mean six were you on times two speed it felt like it lasted all day Fringy capsicum is the plant bell peppers are the fruit is there a plant on your pizza or a pepper capsicum on our pizzas bell peppers are now it's it's very interesting that you say that because when I look up capsicum and then I see the images I see the image of everything that I have ever known a capsicum to be which is the fruit that I posted in the chat there and that is something by us there it is that is something that is something that people cut up and put on food so I don't know if this is a situation where capsicum has effectively transitioned to also represent the plant the fruit itself or the vegetable whatever it is but that's what I'm seeing here I think it's oh here we go so is there any difference between bell peppers and capsicum this is difference between .net I guess they should know the shit they should know yeah no I'm looking at that one this says no there is actually no difference between the two as the bell pepper is just another capsicum wow in Britain it's called in Britain it is called red pepper or green pepper or chili pepper yeah in the US and Canada the large capsicum form is known as a bell pepper man that that that's funny how it's like oh look at how wrong you were well well there we are how the turn tables I mean that was going to be my follow question was do you typically like colloquially call them capsicums in Australia yes that's interesting I don't hear people call them bell peppers I've only ever heard them describe just capsicum so it's it's it's the opposite here where they're only known as bell peppers I've never heard that in my life but what I'll do is I'll text a few people and I'll ask hey do you know what capsicum is just to see if you know I know like I'll I'll ask all in and pay just drop it into casual conversation subtly so they see if they go like what what is that what do you mean I think if I did that like with my parents though if they knew what capsicum was they'd look at me like why are you doing that like nobody calls it that in any case what just happened that somebody's mentioned in chat and I want to turn about mode so what happened was that chat came through and everything went silent in the phoenix right courtroom and then when we read that out the music got really upbeat we're like you know it's over now this is the turn around this is the yeah the turn about section in the phoenix right case okay we got some very exciting music playing right now I've asked the old M&P to see if they've heard of capsicum and we will see what they say wait just ask every every like all the largest creators that you know if they've heard of capsicum well I mean it's probably gonna be a matter of whether or not they're from America Australia or Britain or whatever else yeah but now maybe the name has changed over time so I so maybe my parents will be like oh yeah well some people have called it that but we we never our family never did or we've heard of it before something like that where it's just it's a name that used to be like maybe over here it used to be named at a long time but it just became bell pepper so when I asked people they'll be like hey have you ever heard of bell pepper and like of course I know him he's me and that would be strange but it would be a reference and that's what matters also I am the bell pepper what I refuse to believe such things why because I am a rational man and I only believe in rationality just from I thought even like because I am a radish and I was like the radish people will dominate there's a lot of people I know who are well they're not like they're not rad but they're not lame you know they're they're radish well rags if you're a vegetable what vegetable would you be I mean you couldn't you can okay just I want to say vegetable I mean anything that you put in a salad rather than anything that's okay okay vegetable okay because I'd say I'd still be rags but very boring but let me see if I was a vegetable what would you like hmm bring it I want I want yours as well my what sorry if you're a vegetable what would you be what is the longest vegetable uh so if the longest vegetable probably be like vegetables right I'd be the long one asparagus is fairly long there's probably something not that I I'm like bring onions oh I'd be a potatoes count I know they're tubers but our tubers vegetables are I don't know that they I that's like so it looks like um um all tubers fall under the root vegetable umbrella but not all root vegetables our tubers so oh wait let me say our potatoes why did I even bother with this magic asked if potatoes it was an easier question then okay so potatoes are a type of vegetable I would be a potato Moeller I think this is you this is a giant cucumber oh oh yes there you go I'm a giant cucumber that's a oh the big green oh yeah you've you versus the cucumber she tells you not to worry about that's another vegetable with the word come in it yay oh yeah and kumquat and speak cucumbers come as well so that's the thing about kumquat is it spelled less funnily but it sounds funnier it does yeah it's one letter short of come squat which it's as we all know very fun yeah look how cool this nozzle is everybody look at it go what are you doing with nozzles I'm gonna I'm gonna fucking break into these right now there I go put down the nozzle no ow wait are we done with the vegetable question or is it more I haven't figured out what I don't know there are a lot of green vegetables that makes a tough pick does that have to be green it doesn't have to be green I guess it just feels like that makes most sense right well here's what I would say so you can go with aesthetics like what vegetable by its looks it seems to appeal to you you can also go by taste because some vegetables taste like sharper than others some are more flat and more like malleable in terms of what you can do with like a potato a potato can be really any food yeah very versatile I got a text back my father says no not familiar oh okay interesting it does seem like it's American British versus what we do here really it's not a real place for me that's true they all keep saying that but like I'm pretty sure that I'm not dreaming yeah the rest of the world you're just in um you're just in a different you're in like you're in South Africa oh god this is the other or is that is where it's supposed to be we're not all on the payroll so it kind of seems like okay here we go it's another hot mission my sister has a 36 inch long English cucumber growing in her garden so either that's she's a very impressive gardener or she is an incredibly talented prostitute is the the two the only two options that's all you know you can be what's that's true I'm not even sure what happened I think I was supposed to jump again I don't know you are still wrong about the capsicum thing give it up my friend all right the objection has already been raised the music has played what's happened is the fittest right character is faded all right it's over a bell pepper is a capsule in both ways it's the two different names for the same I read wikipedia I read wikipedia I read wikipedia oh okay wikipedia is always right huh he said read wikipedia so which my response was yeah I read it and I read all the hey maybe he's maybe he's got maybe there's someone else maybe he reads it's too late the no the the final objection has been raised the music played very loud and quick what if he already faints it's a second paragraph that's not up his mind the second paragraph on the wikipedia page says as of 2021 it is no longer classified this way oh wow why did you leave that out fringy yeah fringy what the fuck I don't know this is so slanderous because I can't why are you cast lighting oh it's not slice why are you ad homineming us yeah why are you straw manning you add hominem to me why you're straw manning us why would you do that you must be maliciously motivated I mean it's it's just abusing that you would say this feels like projections of me that sounds like you're projecting your straw man onto J well I found I was one of the real that was one of the things about about all the smart boy stuff it was funniest to me was when he called someone a projector and I'm like gotta do it those kids they need to see it's hard work but it's honest work that's true a projector is like the dinosaurs and flintstones they always in this kit by saying it's a living they will say that that's like isn't it you being paid this is the only joke that you have it's the only joke in that whole show yeah someone said freeing you the straw manner why would they say that if it wasn't true oh did you know that Betty and uh or Fred and Wilma flintstones were the first couple to be shown in bed together on tv wow really before be witch oh yeah I suppose that would have been because the flintstones was in the 1960 when it started well wait hold up this says technically Mary Kay and Johnny for the first married couple to share a bed on tv I don't know it shows that from let me but that's what I've always heard I've always heard it was actually the flintstones but maybe oh maybe it's uh baby she's falling with it the flintstone 1960 it says it was the first among the first to show a couple for live action couples the one put rule was to have existed um well that's an Australian New Zealand now I love this right because you're citing wikipedia in wikipedia it literally says that in Australian New Zealand and India the heatless varieties are called capsicums while hot ones are called chili and chilies so you just now found out that like over a billion people I like how India just buffs up the numbers a lot but like this is just how it's referred to now you could say that that's wrong all you want but at this point when we're talking about etymology I don't know what I'm meant to do with that Fringy will not have it that name is Fiora Gramsen what oh it's the person who's just soup Fringy what date did you get the wikipedia page oh dear I must apologize but it appears your wikipedia page is outdated allowing me to present the updated wikipedia page from Fiora Gramsen oh I'm assuming they're memeing right I guess yeah probably they are Fiora Gramsen all right I think I guess it's never you can never tell 100% if someone's memeing in the event nor nor ooh it's dead why do you say that I'm like a brookly accent I didn't do nothing hey I'm walking here Gettysburg for wall movies arc it's four hour epic starring martin sheen as Lee and Jeff Daniels as Chamberlain alongside civil war 5 000 reenactors damn I have not seen Gettysburg but I've heard good things and maybe I don't know if the the lads we got on the war arc would be willing to do a four hour movie I don't know they had trouble with Troy which was three hours right yeah but that was I think that was one of our better recordings though oh dude the troll was great I just I wouldn't want to push them into something they don't want to do you know absolutely um fuck mary kill wallace well go ahead which one was worse was it what which one was worse for us was it kingdom of heaven or the king arthur one so I know which one was longer I don't know about which one was that's a hot take by the way right a lot of people are very upset that we bad should kingdom of heaven is actually kind of shite um I mean what can what can we say but be honest we watched it we were paying attention we had a whole set of people and we were not fucking enjoying that shit at all in fact some of the the director's cut is not only and that's the thing a lot of people are like extra confused because the the current narrative or thought I guess is the the the theatrical is terrible or at least okay but missing those stuff and the director's cut is mwah beautiful it's like Snyder cut thing but like the director's cut of kingdom of heaven it's like it's actually it introduces problems that don't exist in the theatrical cut um I can't remember the theatrical cut that well so I like I'll just have to get a take your word for that but like the fucking some of the wasn't it like the the the lady the sister yeah the lady character and the prince subplot thingy like those are not like the the things about those that are terrible we're not in the theatrical cut as far as I know yeah we probably have quite the hot take on that film um I know that a lot of it we were struggling to say stuff because we were just like yeah we're almost yeah it really was Snyder like in the sense that there were just these long ass scenes where just nothing happens and it's just redundant and pointless and and let's be frank fucking Orlando Bloom just like begging him to act in this movie I will say our our war eye war rock has changed my mind on Orlando Bloom a little bit like I used to be like he's fine but now I'm like man he is kind of bad he's bad oh no he's a great he's a great like Legolas but that seems to be the fluke I mean Legolas is pretty stoic so that might make sense that is true maybe he just needs to play a more stoic kind of character because as a lead he is just kind of fucking awful I shouldn't be begging an actor to act in a movie that is like please Orlando a moat show an emotion give me something to work with here looks like a weird boy Orlando Bloom that's sort of it's very plant-like it's very um it's very no it feels like a it feels like a fictional name you know yeah like like an actor's name but not a real actor's name like a stage name yeah so many made up no that's his name oh it's his name yeah he's got a very long weird name oh yeah oh no it's it's like if you include the middle name and all that too let me see if I can Orlando luminescence bloom well the next so that yeah the name is Orlando Jonathan Blanchard Copeland Bloom all right very long name why why so many names does he come from like two different families and they split up but he doesn't know no no no we just threw them all in there there it's no hyphens there's no hyphens though so that seems to just be like I don't know how good I can't remember how good he is in Pirates Caribbean I feel like he was better in that than the things we saw you know you know and I'm not yeah I'm not I have feelings I will protect them with the sword I feel like I have feelings but I'm not sure but yeah so there you go no worries about running out of haunt takes guys more on the way speaking of more on the way I gotta use the loot I'll be back in just a second very well that was a good one I'm very happy with that one that was a that was a good name all right I didn't get it yeah just I'm just saying that's a good name anyway fuck Mary kill Wallace from Wallace and Gromit Tesla from Prestige and Zola from Captain America first Avenger I think we're marrying Wallace again I guess fuck Tesla kill Zola easy I think that would be my yeah decision too yeah I mean like Tass is played by David Bowie and Zola is played by oh I was I was strictly looking into the characters now you've made it personal nice I don't find Toby Jones attractive personally that's mean that's just a mean about it yeah fucking problem the guy did a really good job and you're just like oh I wouldn't fuck you I'm just imagining like it comes out of the premier and that's what someone says to him hey look you're pretty great but I wouldn't fuck you he's like he's just like he's just like oh why did you tell me this he's just like I just wanted you to know that I wouldn't what what's wrong with the truth Toby you hate the truth what's wrong with the truth do not like the truth the truth hurts you Limcock now let's let's bring out some statistics Toby do you know that only 20 percent of the population would fuck you okay so I don't know I don't know that might be pretty good I don't know maybe that's good that's the normal number like the normal number is higher Toby he's like oh okay how much higher it's like it's like 23% normally yeah I don't know like I kind of want to like I kind of I kind of want to see this like an animated sketch or whatever or you know what actually just like a genuine sketch with Toby Jones acting this out I know I feel like he just throughout the entire conversation he consistently comes back to I don't know 20% seems pretty good though like it just I know I don't know hype is hell nicely done with the lily pads you totally deserve this for your wonderful sense of masochism aww thank you it was it was a difficult one but it's done I even did the other ones I think all the hardest levels are now defeated except for the fucking watermelon one but I don't have to do that nobody in chat said I had to do that one so I'm fine it's like okay so I'm thinking like 20% probably is pretty good right because you've got first of all first people that discount not attracted to men right you know we're not going to want to fuck toby jones sure yeah uh so that's you've already got you've already only got 50% there and you know what then like people and relationships I guess or are we counting them is not wanting to fuck toby jones because they wouldn't um well so why someone you know what I think you could say yeah you know as long as the probably more than 50% of people are attracted to men because I forgot about bi people but uh wow we're right by erasure I am a bi people by erasure I am a bi people by erasure happening life so let's say that's like let's say that's like I am 45% of people are not attracted to men I know that's a guess um then so we've got 55% left so I feel like if it's like I don't know that's like two out of five people that's that's nearly half really at that point I don't know I feel like I feel like that's probably normal I feel like even if you're very attracted to men is this all of the toby jones dialogue yeah this is the toby jones dialogue he says all of that the guy's like fuck you molly you're a lesbian now high rags is it is it fringy's turn to say high rags hey hi brags what's up and yeah I'll be a lesbian that's fine um I only call the first five minutes this so I don't know if you threw oh wait we read that one that was a jay jumped out of it look we're catching up going great I remember being put off a bit as a kid when I watched treasure planet for the first time and how the vacuum of space was in this world I was like how are they breathing lol oh they they have like explicit explanation in the opening I don't remember oh there is like the the explicit is oh yeah this in this place like the air is breathable in space that's just how it works here oh is that is that it like they're just like it's like space but you can breathe yeah basically that's that's better than nothing okay it's something yeah I mean you know that's fine when there is just that uh if you want to make that you know this is a world where you can breathe in space and well the only thing would be then is that if you rely on that same vacuum to do things that the vacuums do for other payoffs but you like know also you can breathe oxygen rely on they rely on an absence of gravity still gravity isn't a result of the vacuum yeah I was gonna say that's that's fine true that's true but it's just the idea that um yeah there were there were no payoffs related to like oxygen stuff and then yeah as long as as long as we're at that point should be okay as long as they don't tell us one thing and then show us another thing that's all that's all that matters um bbc top gear at least Clarkson era was pretty popular in the us and certainly far more popular than the us version of top gear I guess this is about British content surviving in americas well by the way doctor who was fucking majorly popular in the us especially in the if he is that's when it so yeah it was just like over there Gary was telling me that apparently he started back up in britain and then it was only I think tenants era that they they dropped it all onto like streaming services or something in the us and it went nuts or something like people were like I want it I thought I thought it was Matt Smith era that weren't really went so sorry I was saying that's where it started Matt Smith era might be where it peaked or whatever well maybe it was Matt Smith era where it started I'd have to ask him again it was interesting but I don't remember all of the things he said now just that America went nuts for for doctor who not any maybe more Harry Potter went went nuts in America yeah and all them are British so you've just been beaten again for me absolutely proven wrong yeah these gang it up on me so now what's going on completely this is cruel true regarding treasure planet all the pirates did was rigged bombs on one of the core engines knowing that the fall into the core would enact a meltdown does that mean something to you free I don't know wait what was that sorry someone was asking about like how they how they managed like to make a planet explode or something oh so what could you read the chat out again regarding treasure planet all the pirates did was rigged bombs on one of the core engines knowing that the fall into the core would enact a meltdown oh then I guess I would explain it I must have not heard that or misunderstood that yeah that would be fair then I guess it's interesting that a planet so sophisticated would be so easily blown up but yeah whatever oh yeah well how'd you explain the death star then for me that the exhaust port have you not seen a rogue one that's how it explains us that's how it explained that's true before we had no answers rogue one is the best Disney star was from it is probably easily I haven't seen it in ages K2SO's in it yeah dude I though such a missed opportunity to not have had K2SO's line about them all dying in the vacuum of space while he'll be fine in relation to Leia oh these are the whoopsie we'll all die and they just in the background goes I won't to AFD to the cringe in card infinite it turns out the main protagonist Nick Reyes is both voiced and mo-capped by the writer Brian Bloom meaning he is a literal author insert uh Brian Bloom is a I don't know that's not what it means if it's not the same person basically if he just voices him and performs him that's if you want to define it as the author is inserting himself into the story or something I guess so but if the character is completely different then that's kind of not yeah it's not the spirit of it you know he is uh yeah no he he wrote that he's been on voice acting for a while he's in a lot of stuff he played um you know about all the jack stuff do you remember the the guy who sounded like Bender who sold you the cars that you drove around in in the desert ah Cleaver that was the name Cleaver I was thrown off by sounded like Bender because I've never I've never thought he sounded like Bender I I well so I thought I when I first heard that character speak I was like is this John DiMaggio but it's not it's yeah it's this guy Cleaver is such a a strange one Cleaver is funny I like that character a lot he is funny you're like are you talking to me yeah you're talking to him no I'm conversing with me sweet departed mom for me I like those games a lot for me spreading his lies like he spreads his goo hey stop it I like Kaira though Kaira's my my favorite character in those she's just she's just comfy you know um she's just a pleasant person out around I mean I definitely prefer the more out there outlandish characters in those games although to be fair like they all have their own charm to them that's the thing yeah no I I I really like Daxter I know that like that's somewhat contentious something well I don't think it is actually I think most people like Jack Daxter I feel like most people like Daxter but also find Daxter annoying yeah but I don't know that just remind me because it's kind of because that was around the same time that people like oh in ratchet one he's just a jerk ratchet's a jerk it's like dude he's going on an arc I don't know what like I don't know what they're meant to do here should he just be awesome right from the outset and not a little bit rash like he's going on a journey he's becoming a good I hate him you guys did long backs is why statistically about long backs is it's not smart oh is that enough to hate them well you guys did great and have a sit show also can we have a retail hell-willed story sometime or something similar also also high rags is it back to you with that point J hey hello hey there um I think I told most of the ones I remembered from my like retail hell stuff but like the longer time goes on the less I will remember them in general all the details become fuzzy um but I mean if you have modern ones like like free if if anything hellish happens in in any jobs you're doing here and there ah we can talk about those another time there you go get excited for the future um you make some good points J however you have pronouns in your bio so they're actually wrong and you are a lesser person awesome that's that's another argument this month boy was leaning on yes because to me is more of a position that's always been a meme to me when people actually think it's like a an actual argument it's like oh so that's a good old fashion ad homonym isn't it it's like also people say it's not it's supposed to be an argument it's supposed to be an insult it's like so it is an ad home well but when they do it in response that's just an insult when they do it in response to an argument though it's like so that's not an argument yeah like if there's if you if you're in an argument you say that and then you don't have a response that is an ad home basically well it's it's literally I associate you with people that I don't like yes because you pronounce any buyer um boop boop boop springy capsicum oh wait I read that one out our tards are always on guard right did you I think what was that because I'm pretty sure there was a follow-up on the capsicum that's the one I read from before so if there is one we will get to it um um yeah the rags fans were he called them our tards and fans of me are called mongos on the adamant stitch guys what are you going to watch God's not dead trilogy Fifa movies fourth one's coming out soon time's running out who's going to be the fourth one is it still kevin sorbo could he come back that'd be great God's not dead excellent trilogy and soon to be quadrilogy but I don't know if we'd be doing that three fat movies if we did oh boy the controversy in chat and comment sections and we'd have to get logic as well so that would go over real well how could we resist but I mean I don't think anybody would deny the movies of shit you got that I've returned hello fun facts that religion well not really God's not dead does that count I guess so does that count as religious talk fun fact I hope our level of discourse would be better than that you love God's not dead everyone dead it was a great film for reasons that movie man and I feel like that'd be a very controversial if that movies that's what I said I feel it yeah I feel like even but I feel like even christians would be like yeah this is just like well I mean it exists and it made a lot of money so makes me wonder like how many people did enjoy it you know um yeah maybe I guess if they like yeah I don't know I'm trying to think of like why they would enjoy it because it just well because it raises really good points you know like like I mean why would you hate God if he doesn't exist that's a great point it's like all this christian film it's like when you go to the youtubers who are christians and they do exorcisms and stuff and they're like oh my god those are all the comments are just like praise the lord there's a christian nowhere too of like movies on isn't it called pure flex oh yes it is oh man I was wondering if it's really weird I prefer pure dicks I guess it's just I don't know if it was weird like it always felt weird to me I think just openly talking about it like that about dicks well that's that's a little weird sir I guess why I think that's fine I feel oppressed yeah should do yeah fuck you we gotta open up Fringy's mind on the whole dicks thing the dicks question okay uh oh yeah we read that one out fun fact the tallest vegetable ever recorded was oh it says was Christopher Reeves oh that's mean uh Fringy my point is that in the U.S. it's more specific the plant is capsicum and the fruit bell slash chili peppers oh is fruit slash you just call the whole thing a capsicum okay but my point was that in Australia it's called a capsicum and the like in terms of etymology it's one and the same I mean it was just you just you found it surprisingly unheard of it but I mean at this point it seems like yeah but I that's just a culture I mean yeah like at this point it doesn't surprise me anymore because now I know that that's what it's called in America so I'm happy in the U.K. so we I'm curious we all learned something new had you heard of bell peppers before this moment and just didn't I heard peppers we have peppers so like capsicums are the ones spicy basically like that's that's that's so capsicums are like the ones I posted there it's just normal and then peppers are the hot ones interesting we don't call them we don't call them bell peppers we just call them peppers how do you eat a ghost um fucking chew your butt oh god it's not that hard I gotta do everything for you geez these bleeding hot Libcox all right you know always there husking how to eat ghosts and they can't figure it out for themselves yeah what you want the government to eat for you yeah I was about exactly you got a you got at some point you got to learn how to take care of yourself all right God did you watch any of the game shows like crystal maze nightmare jungle run etc I always thought why are these kids so stupid a lot of the times yeah I watched a whole bunch of them they were fun you guys ever see them I think I've not got some of them but I didn't I didn't watch them no it's like it's like much simpler and lower stakes where it's just like can you get across this easily platformable place to get the key then then you get five keys and you unlock the thing I watched the show wipe out rags you might have heard it because that one's in America you haven't heard of yeah wipe out that's like a almost a different genre what I'm referring to is like so in crystal maze and other stuff that they'll be like puzzles and stuff for kids to figure out and they'll unlock all the doors and then they get the big prize sort of thing I see they were fun they were neat do the watermelon one also high rags hello I gotta do the watermelon one now I'm not gonna do the right way I can't cheat so oh it's a level in your little game it is in my little game any games on the horizons that you are hyped for I am stupid go ahead I'm gonna say I'm not gonna say hyped but I'm I'm hopeful for a dark tide and halo and battlefield and eventually scorn is supposed to come out and that looks interesting so fight a man's coming out in the end of the host mmm um honestly I'm only gonna be hyped for things that you remind me to fucking exist I've got nothing right now fair enough um I am quite excited for metroid dread that game looks really cool and it's only out in a couple of months so less no actually less than that I think it's only a month away so that's very exciting new new metroid chronologically for the first time in like two decades no there we go what about you Jay what was the question you excited for any hype but games yeah I've lost the ability to feel excitement yeah I know that feeling um I guess I mean death loop looks interesting death loop looks really cool I'm I'm quite looking forward to that one about that I guess no right there we go I mean metroid dreads when I'd be interested in as long as we are now it's looking looking real schmick there was a new trailer just came out it's got like full on cut scenes and stuff and it's like man it feels like a log size it's a metroid game like that oh actually no it hasn't been decades since now if we get and scratch that it just looks really cool that's all it's neat will metroid be in it yeah I love metroid yeah I love metroid it's the main character yeah she's my favorite she's I like her almost as much as I like halo I'll be in the chief joke serious samus super metroid serious samus um hey wronguloid hey what are your biggest positives and negatives of rdr2 and would you say that it's a mediocre good great or excellent game ooh so problem is I haven't played it since it came out and if you ask me then I would have said it was great but I feel like I feel like there are things that are worth criticizing like for instance rock stars controls are just dated at this point like there's no reason why I should be tapping x repeatedly the sprints like as far as I'm concerned that's dumb just map it to the map it to the r3 you know push down and then sprint like there's no reason for that I remember that the gunplay was a little bit like it just needs to be free aim the lock on kind of makes this game really easy you just lock on aims their head snap aims their head snap and just keep doing that it should be free aim like by default um because of course you can turn that off it's like but that's available and it feels like that's the default way to do it then why would you ever do that so I think that should be turned off but yeah no I do like that game a lot yeah I know that the GTA stuff for a while just seems to be when it comes to it's definitely a hole is more than the sum of its parts kind of deal yeah um because if like it's not that impressive mechanically that would that would always be the criticism of like a lot of rock star games is that even from a design standpoint too pretty conventional so what would you give it over all then I think it's I think it's pretty good I might say great but I think I would need to play it again with a critical eye because at the time I was just playing it really excited and yo look a rock star game they're one of the few companies that like in terms of reliably I'll just be like really anticipating whatever they're making that seems like they don't care about making games anymore it's online experiences at this point yeah money there I did the watermelon level and I even stood on the blender with Mary look at that look how dangerous that is jeez lucky that's not on is it on it was on oh sorry Mario was just invincible then he's got some strong feet Gary stew damn straight beat the fucking watermelon level though what is in the us section at your market or store freedom but what sorry the us section of your market or store oh there isn't no us section here yeah there's Adam shitty store is there a us section in like american we don't have an australian section yeah that's what I mean sometimes ethnic food is sort of kind of together in some places but a lot of the times it's just blended with other things like if you want like I think some some of the Asian stuff in terms like sriracha and some of the sauces and things they'll be kind of in a spot with the rest of the sauces but they'll sort of be like right next to them grouped together somewhat just depends but generally since we're so used to kind of eating just everything it's a lot more normal to just see them with everything like no like I don't know no one really no like when you go to the store and buy taco shells and stuff like sure there's probably some Mexican chick on the box and she's really hot and all that but it's not like no one is like ah yes Mexican cuisine it's just like it's just so normal that you have taco shell or tortilla chips that it's not even yeah it's like it's it's surpassed being like an ethnic food it just says tostitos or whatever on the front or whatever brand lolitas Esperanza's delicious horny chips wow that was Zora's wife's name in mascarzano was Esperanza true fan okay that's not true brazilian Asian food no they they're I think there are but I don't like when I go to the store to buy things for me I generally won't be like oh I'm gonna buy Mexican food to make it home I was like it's that's not the kind of shopping that I do but you know I'll I'll eat the fuck out of a Asian you know restaurant or something like that a hibachi grill I love those but when I'm buying food for me for a from a place I'm not going to buy like best a specific Mexican or Italian food Gaithers pond is top tier Christian media please google images it's it's it is every bit of the year 2002 Gaithers pond that's what they said Gaithers pond G A I T H E R G A Y G A I J G A I T H E R yeah Gaithers pond it's a TV program apparently it's a oh I've seen this shit in um everything is terrible compilations that's that's the only that's how I know about it oh my god I just found the most big the biggest ripoff ever hey give me just a second I want to show you this image do you guys think do you guys think that this just might be based on another sort of uh movie oh my god oh oh that looks entirely original I don't really know what you're trying to say no that's that doesn't that's yeah that doesn't look like anything I've ever seen before from her aquarium home to a new life under the sea is you know is it shark tail you decide yeah I just feel like I really are like on that line like the that title is just it's exactly all right so this is this is the description of Gaithers pond on IMDb a bunch of pond animals live and deal with their daily lives also god it's not very good oh wait a second it stars and the creator in star is Benji and Bill Gaither oh the Gaitha brothers made this huh oh my goodness um mark wait a second wait a second look look here look at this look at this look here um look listen observe this look at the characters and then who the voice actors are no pitches let's say you know they're famous oh what the what yeah yeah names line up what the hell wait what what is like they're playing themselves meaning your name is in the cast mark lauri plays carp lauri Georgie plays bullfrog yawns guy pen rod plays guppy pen rod what a good name is guy pen rod Jesse Dickson plays Jesse frogman JD Sumner plays crawdad Sumner they're just their names of the actors yeah so let me ask you this now that we have that in our brain holes right did they come up with all the characters and had to look around for voice actors that match the names that was definitely it which is that's almost certainly true or which is not likely at all because it would be really dumb they happened to name the characters after who they wanted to be the voices which doesn't sound that sounds absurd when you name it like guy pen rod that's the one you had to find because yeah yeah 100% guy and rod like man we need him we have the technology that was when they were like hey is your name guy pen rod better chance we're looking for a guy pen rod and he's like sure i'm guy pen rod you're like pen rod what a good what a name it's just fucking change your name if your name is pen rod um but uh someone said look finding jesus look we can do you can make entire channels devote how come finding jesus too automatically pops up oh my god jesus too oh my god it's uh here i'll just show you it's the limit that they had to make a second one they didn't find jesus that makes his eyes look creepy in that first image so finding jesus finding jesus too and finding jesus children's church curriculum digital finding jesus under the sea like 112 dollars oh okay well to be fair i think i think that's probably for like a whole vacation bible school set up and list of things to do okay so it's probably a really good deal in that sense then again it's all fucking made up anyway so who knows it's probably easier though if you it seems like one of the three uh they can i saw the meme of the fish talking yeah um we could do a whole art of terrible by the way it's one of my one of my guilty pleasures is watching old like everything is terrible stuff that hold the weird 90s 80s kind of so from like the mid 80s until like 2004 2005 ish was is a gold mine of weird bizarre a lot of it is young christian like tv shows and films and a lot of it was like bizarre experimental shit with strange animals and settings and premises um it fascinates me to look at this right animals yeah just the when it comes to costumes when it comes to art direction in the sets that they would use and the voice acting it's just a treasure trove of weirdness would recommend all right um if you guys heard of this news about halo infinite how do you feel of only gaining xp from challenges and not earning any from matches yeah i'm not sure how i feel about that it depends on what the challenges are if the challenge is very if if the challenge is like kill an enemy kill five enemies kill 10 or complete these objectives or do these mode it depends if the if the challenges are stupid and they really kind of force you into playing with weapons you don't like or using strategies and stuff that just don't make any sense i'll hate it um or if they're very specific like there's some i like battlefield one a lot but some of the challenges in that game for unlocking certain weapon variants and things are stupid and they're really dumb and they require you to play specific maps and do specific things on those maps or maybe win 10 of a specific mode which might be difficult if it's a mode that's no one really plays anymore especially after all these years um or just they're really grindy like whoever at dice thought that getting 300 kills with a self slaughter 1906 factory fuck you that is a that is a boring fucking chore oh my god it's not even really a good gun fuck you for doing that but it all depends on what the challenges are if you gave me if i saw a list of challenges right now i would be able to give you a pretty great mode you know what i'm a little bit different on that one i just don't like it as a thing in general i think it's a thing that they're designed to incentivize making you play every day and it means that if i have one day available i'm just having a shittier time because like daily weekly challenges are usually incredibly easy to get once those resources take you a lot longer to get the week like you you just limited your potential to get a whole bunch of experience once you get all those daily challenges out of the way it's designed to get you to come back every day because that's what they want because you want you in the ecosystem depends on the challenges still but i i do see what you mean but i um that's my concern anyway just hope the factory is great no it's not no it's not it's not quit stop it isn't don't say that it's one of those mean guns in the game where you're like oh i'll play this for a while it's interesting haha i'm having fun all right now back to the real good guns um yeah in terms of what fringy said it depends on what the challenges are if they are constantly repeatable or if they're almost like like uh like points that you just continuously reach like you don't you don't get xp just because you finish the game there are constantly challenges that you are leveling up and getting progress towards all the time because if they're the way you said yeah but hopefully it depends on what the challenges actually are that's pretty much all it comes down to because sometimes in battlefield games and stuff like that completing challenges will just give you flat out more xp than just finishing the game if you go for metals and things of that nature um you you really can it will be faster it will more than double your progress than if you were just playing randomly and finishing games it's all in the execution and what the challenges actually are yep hopefully they're not crap um okay i was gonna say if it was like for every match you get x amount of xp but then there's a challenge that's like complete five matches and you get xp and it just resets all the time suppose you could bounce that out in a way that you don't it doesn't change necessarily anything in a way i just don't know if that's how they're doing it at all yeah and if it's like the more you use a weapon the more like each weapon has specific challenges associated with it or i don't know it depends on the execution uh i don't know i'm worried i feel like it's just why wouldn't you give people experience for finishing a game you know because what if you're just you know what if you're just not really that good and so it's it just flat out is more difficult for you to complete challenges or it's way slower and you don't even get a bone thrown your way because you finish the game and you stuck it out like i don't know um molly you're too good at this game you aren't supposed to beat three of the worst missions on their first go like that and yet you have nicely done thank you i've done way worse on the normal missions like just now like do you see that i threw two peppers ineffective he's laughing at me oh that's fucking that's fucked up um yeah i'm doing way worse on the normal ones that i have on the hard ones it's a weird day thank you um more would you ever play through kotor 2 it would be interesting to watch you play many say it's one of the best star wars on tent out there and just saw lord the rings for the first time also hi rags hi no hope you enjoyed lord the rings no comment on lord of the rings i hope you really liked it i will assume that you did yes that is the neutral position rings yes um some rings good point what if what about people only play single player so hopefully challenges extend a single player um if uh so uh you know it's completing levels killing certain amounts of enemies doing certain specific maybe level challenges maybe they have ones in there that are kind of like um you can choose to start a level with the kind of modifier uh that will give you more xp but says oh you can't throw grenades or do things like that maybe you can mix and match sort of like um heroes of hammer watch does that really well where you can uh there's a wishing fountain and you can give yourself a bunch of penalties that make the game harder but depending on how difficult the penalties are and the handicap is essentially you'll get more gold and more experience and stuff so it will allow you to kind of fast track your progress if you know so you can challenge yourself a little bit harder and i really like that system and it works the opposite way too you can give yourself boons and buffs but it will lower the amount of experience and um like ore and gold that you will get so that's an interesting thing i wish more games would do if i feel i feel like it rewards skill really well so you're like oh i'm really good so i kind of i can fast track i love it when games reward scale that is pretty neat i will say um that's for koto too maybe one day maybe one day um i i just have no necessarily like the thing where i'm just like i wonder when that will happen it's like i know a lot of people want me to play him but what if i'm like j and i start generating some really hot takes about how the mechanics aren't very good in a in a cruel way or two so that's pronounced it's pronounced kato to kato um but yeah genuinely maybe one day maybe one day if you play d&t don't follow the rules too hard hmm i imagine rags will be deciding what rules will be following rules are definitely more of a suggestion uh okay wow you pirate yeah because the dm will essentially decide what the rules will be so they can make their own personal rules or they could change things up but they have the rule book and the guide is for obvious reason because there's a lot of rules it will tell you how the game pretty much goes but ultimately it's up to the dm to decide what really what really happened so we really do uh first time donating found y'all through adam and sitch i've been binging videos enjoying the entertainment yeah adam and sitch are good lads they're good i had a lot of fun on their uh their stream i had a good time there's a lot of solidarity i would say because they have to watch some really shit content yeah they do i don't know how they do it sometimes i mean how rags how can you say that well rags knows how he can do it yeah well we watch them but maybe i don't know maybe i'm just maybe my mind is just sort of boo i'm low on health give me some like a good friendly boss would totally do oh coins wow this game's got rubber banding in it and that's bad oh rubber banding means it's like if i'm if i'm falling too far behind the game will start to ease up and if i'm going way too far in front it might go harder go harder oh yes for me rubber banding is the generally it's the it's the optical effect you get when a player's connection isn't smooth so they sort of like oh they they're move slowly and then they sort of catch up to where they're supposed to be or maybe bounce back a little bit well i've always known it in reference to difficulty i didn't even know it in reference to that i didn't uh i wasn't aware of uh the way you're talking about either so interesting how they use it in britain i've always i've always thought that was called capsicum bring you fuck them up we call it bell banding they're making funny your mystery fruits or whatever they no it's okay i'm i'm over it it's it's fine you can uh bring you what's your favorite meme name for wings mine is samurai richard mcgraveson the v6 v6 is a joke about his salvage title v6 mustang oh i've not heard that but that's really funny mcgraveson yeah no i haven't staying is that what he drives apparently maybe i don't maybe he he briefly drove it and then had to get rid of it i bet it was like a shitty automatic i've never seen this game i don't like automatics i will say wait what game jay i found it automatic i've found a four guys mode that i've never seen before oh boy cool count the fruit i think ah fruit you can't count that one that's a capsicum i think capsicum's a fruit right fringy yes like vegetable it's vegetable yes it's not a plant really it's not a it's not a fruit i think it's a vegetable i think our food is peppers wait a pepper's fruit or vegetables our peppers i don't i i think they're fruit let me see it's capsicum a vegetable no it's a fruit it's a fruit is uh cultivated as annual vegetables while the edible parts of botanically fruit well what are you now gee i show interesting in i like that we've learned so much today i know i got down um i rags hi longman hi frogo hello water uh is to 150 may there at least be 150 more um so this game just this game just eliminated all but four of the people all right you do get it without without context two huh it's round two this game sorry this game just eliminated all but four people that's the context we need that was the one context uh it was a memory game where like yeah they've added another version of memory game i know um could be good but um it's a memory game where all but like holy shit literally hang on i think yeah some okay someone just won on round two because literally every other player got the memory game wrong hi please i pray champions because they water everywhere super maro sunshine there is water everywhere there's water in you in your soul in your heart not everywhere for me i know that you're you're excited but not everywhere where is the water it's quite what um are we gonna get fringian mutil plushies next maybe even a certain wolf uh wolf was not at all interested which i think it's completely fair as for fringian mutil i mean i would imagine a fringy one but the problem is like where would we you would you i'm assuming you guys don't want us to make one for fucking like every person connect with e-fab you know at that point it's like they should probably make them you know like jay for example what was that i cast an extended crew on my shelf it would be neat but um we masturbate i imagine gen two will be the the three potentially we will probably have a chat about that with chat on an e-fab episode of some points see what everyone says so when everyone's interested in because you never know should make a smart boy one i don't know what does it say when you push the button on it thank you all for being a bright spot in my life been here since day one and you have helped me through some tough times blessings of the dawn be upon you sincerely mr massive thank you very much you know what that comes with every day that goes by the here since day one accolade becomes more and more impressive yeah man does doesn't it just think about that time we've been through some eras lots of times they were saying on the discord that um the atlas heart take is now we've done so everything before the atlas heart take like literally the moment everything is all happened again in timeline like that's how much time has passed that's that's not yep everything has happened again in like in you know i don't know why i'm struggling to explain this do you know what i mean right for me as long as there's been so the time that is elapsed between e-fap beginning and atla that time has elapsed again between atla and now yeah okay the chronologically as distant from that as that is from the beginning of fap yeah that doesn't feel right does it not no no bank account hacked i wanted to give more love here oh don't don't fucking worry about it did your bank account hack yeah that shit sort out hope you're all right yeah get on some get some calls going figure out who's done it and then give them over to uh what's the bounty hunter's name of what about with the tv show mandalorian yes that's who i meant get into the mandalorian you'll fuck them up who did you play as a bounty hunter well but who did you mean um dog the bounty hunter is it dog i remember dog the bounty hunter yeah yeah god that was that was on back they referenced that in good old south park as well they did that um he bear may step that was yeah carmen bear may step everybody encountered i would not want to go straight with bear mate doesn't seem like a fun time um fringy where's your plushie if not here is five dollars to buy you for the day is that a lot of money for you i don't know it probably is uh i don't know if i was almost a buggy reference i hope it is i think it's a buggy reference um yeah well i i'm pretty sure it is literally a year before go let me and rags first got into like a call or a back and forth email with the plushie people so we were like i guess it's just me and you lad and then by the time it was all sorted we were like hey fringy want to be on e-fam and you're like yeah okay so yeah and then at that point it was so light but yeah but it won't be next time no assuming everyone still you know we haven't actually mentioned them this stream i guess we probably should because uh they are running out of time rags you're like six days to buy these i think that's if they want them who knows we're they do want oh they want them we're close to um 1000 funded oh wow that is very impressive for those that means they can go into production yes yes yes that is what that means for those who don't know there are rags and moochly plushies available on makeshift i think thun has been linking them in chat so you can you're gonna grab them on that i've noticed um super easy to find if you don't have a link just makeshift rags in google would get you his and makeshift more or i think we get mine um i think they're at the top of the website too um but yes there are another five days and 23 hours until they are gone forever that's true these are limited time they will never be a moller or rags plush like these ever again they are cute little bastards and you are if you buy them together you get 10 off um it seems like so there is at least 1900 of these little guys around the world each that's pretty crazy when you consider how big the world is that is yeah a lot of little plushies running around so um yeah 1900 of them each or 1900 and so we'll have both of them each and you buy them again moller please i've already bought to both twice damn oh my rags is too cute i had to get one as a christmas gift i'm i won't lie i've bought a few rags for family members they're pretty adorable i've got both of them ordered i've got neither but i'm thinking i should jay we wouldn't judge you if you didn't get them we wouldn't judge you at all i no i didn't really want both of them you'll never be a cloud hanging over your presence for the rest of eternity is that that there was partly that actually factoring in this like should actually like buy these be weird to be like that an e-fab host who doesn't have the e-fab first jet plushies it's all right we wouldn't judge either of you whatsoever so yes grab them now say that but i don't know i believe that well this uh this coming saturday will be the last time we properly be able to um tell people about them then it'll be going on so it'll be a fun little campaign it's gone very well um we we didn't really expect it to go this well to be honest with you we were kind of like we didn't we have no idea i remember you you were actually nervous that it wouldn't like succeed at all i'll be honest with you fringy i i should have thought more rationally but it was the quintin one where i was like man he didn't even fund half of what he was looking for and he had a more like not only was his audience in subscribers i think he was around the same as like mean rags put together um but he's also been releasing really long and popular videos so i was like so surely that should be an indication and he didn't even come close so i was like oh he had to so just so we're clear he had to buy like 250 of the damn things himself to fund it yeah that's a lot of money holy dude where's he gonna put 250 fucking pennies like well in order for the the sale to go through that for them to get made he had had to i don't know it's it's actually one of the saddest things i've ever seen having to buy 250 of your own plushes oh man you're saying it and it's making me sad for him like as you say it really is actually quite a lot of money and i thought you know that's like that's like six thousand plus dollars it's a lot yeah he tends to like sell the cons then i i i just not keeping 250 of them well but if nobody bought them initially why wouldn't anybody buy them at a he can give them away that he could give them away at highly discounted price the point is he's like over six grand in the hole for his own a shila yeah that's it's and you know that he's got he's probably bought out a fucking storage closety thing and he's probably stuffed them all in there yeah because he's buried them in a landfill in the middle of the back store he's coming boxes and everything like yeah i think it was fair to look at that and be like hmm but i think the big thing that works in favor is i just think i just think the designs are more appealing why would i want to quit none of my my bad as opposed to that is true i would i would genuinely like to talk to current but i'd be like did you think when designing this guy and approving him that he was like it's just a very normal person plushy it's like i don't see why but you know ragu he's just a golden child like the reason that i feel like i wouldn't get like a plushy girl in that world um because like my avatar is just like a stylized you would still i believe that you would i think you could make a really cool jay plushy especially with the little um what's the hat called do you offer me is it oh yeah beanie because like jay has something called a personality yeah charm like it's an individuality to jay in quentin is just like a gray sludge of sadness why would you include a little rhino in mine i guess oh yeah you can sell a runner plush little rhino right now we're thinking of potential here oh see you're doing the thing you're doing the thing you are doing the creative thinking of like what would people want well that's another thing you can fucking talk to your community about it and they can be like oh this this this is like quentin did they say they wanted this and lied do you think that'll happen it's doubly sad when you go to the tweet where he like talks about it and shows everybody and so many of the tweets are just like yeah that is really unfortunate for him i do feel bad for him i feel like if i was going to do much people would be a lot more likely to go for like a shirt or something although like there are there is potential for that kind of plush i think he done shits already damn i guess those didn't do so well either i don't know uh but yeah the i don't know i think you should make a meaningful effort if you're coming for somebody who's never fucking made or sold shirts ever but i do think that the a meaningful effort should be made to put something on the shirt that's really fun and interesting if you want people to give a shit you can have a little rhino that you hold jane that's another option yeah you know it's it's a it's a rich idea tiz tiz uh happy 150 long man when is the efap undertale arc it's game that i and others are rabid in their enjoyment uh but its story is balls and it would be very funny to have it destroyed by the long oh my oh i thought people love that game for its story i think i like it for the characters oh okay so maybe the story is not great maybe i don't know that's the thing i have i have not played it no idea yeah now the loop on that one uh happy three years of entertaining brilliance you magnificent gob shites oh what thank you thank you that's very cute hi ragas hello would you consider editing together portions from the black widow rage video that specifically talk about phase four characters in cinema as a whole i'm assuming you mean edit them out into like separate videos and i don't know at that point if that's for the purpose of sharing them to someone else can you just like share the timestamp if you really want to show my part oh see i cut out the one marvelous scene part because like when i was writing the script it felt like i was creating that and i was like this would be a funny meme and then it was like an actual thing so i don't know maybe maybe i got evicted eliminated that's the word evicted that's to say you got evicted you just your landlord just busted in get out get down why wait why is he italian why we don't know that there are italians in in scotland you chose that i'm asking you why you chose it i don't need a reason why you wouldn't have asked for a reason if he sounded scottish yeah because it's more likely that he would be scottish so i don't understand why you chose so there needs to be a there needs to be a reason why he would be scottish wow i didn't say i didn't say that i didn't say that you wouldn't need a reason if he was scottish it seems like i didn't say any of that i asked you why you chose italian i'm asking okay now i'm asking you a question if i hadn't if you just being scottish would you have asked me why seem very evasive right now for you it was a simple question it's weird that you're being so nice so i gotta tell you literally a knowledge question being asked of you and what's the question again i don't why did you choose italian i thought i thought that would be neat that's it that's all what's supposed to need about italians compared to anyone else i thought it was neat to have a character who was just you wouldn't expect it and it makes you think about why you wouldn't expect that i know i wouldn't expect it because the italian population in scotland that's what i'm saying i'm saying it's not interesting to think about why you wouldn't expect it that's all i don't think it's that interesting it's pretty obvious no i think it's too bad it's too better okay fine sure hey mallard do that or grabbing the tail of that bob on little thing what do you mean i've won the level there you go and flood said remember to be kind to pass i was behind enough that i hadn't seen that jay can you please say you can you'll get your rent for you when you fix this damn door damn it's just being sad i i do wonder when people ask me to say stuff which which of them are being used for memes and which of them just want you to just want to see you dance like a marionette at the end of their strength to fulfill their power fantasy i make jay two things i made he's the big youtuber famous man and i he's doing what i tell him to that means i have power which means i can sleep at night yoda fall you you do a good impression of a healthy person yeah fuck that was my greetings raggedo and the e-fap crew happy three years also high rax hello hey happy happy third anniversary everybody yeah third anniversary we're already already moving right along you know the fourth anniversary anytime now everyone run yeah we'll sneak up on us in no time yeah the moment that 24 hour stream ends the timer begins yep sorry boys looks as though i'm going to have to miss out on this one have to watch this on reupload also enjoyed the suicide squad episode which i haven't missed that as well had a lot to say about it that's all right no problem that's why they reuploaded you can check them out whenever you want it's almost like a constant rags more free and etc of people talking forever well we go to sleep they're still out there talking just talking talking to the void holy shit i made it congratulations thank you i hope we got another brilliant jarrod review video oh i think we'll i don't know if that'll happen until episode 1000 at this point um jarrod is uh the quiet days in the past right now yeah i and he hasn't been doing any yeah i don't know if he's even been online or if he's in a jail somewhere i mean i was episode 1000 how far away that would be uh that would be 50 per year year 20 year 20 of it is possible i'm legitimately i mean i feel like metal will be punished metal by then i guess it's interesting to think about though like a year it'll be the first year by then if it was year 20 that would mean that efap lost it like it would be longer from then uh compared to now than youtube existing as a platform youtube's only 16 years old i mean we made it three years well it might you know it might not be on youtube it might do uh might move cross-platform i mean maybe but i feel like youtube's got like just cornered the market at this point on just video sharing i mean like the other the other obvious choice for efap i guess would be twitch although i mean they'd be less welcoming of us they'd be less welcoming of us there and you have a kind of news youtube is well i mean i'm not a question i'm allowed to have opinions yeah that's what you think all your opinion that's what that's wet um yeah it's also gonna be crazy if you guys last that long so i mean i'm not going anywhere yeah i'm not going anywhere either i as far as i know i mean 20 years it sounds crazy but i play i'm down 20 years from now so yeah i'm not like chris duckman or well fucking whoever else would they like oh i'd if i'm still here 20 years from now that'll be terrible it's like oh that's weird maybe if i'm still here in 20 years it means that i will have been hanging out with people that i like and doing something that i enjoy for 20 years of my life which is more than many people could ever say what if you that's a year five then there will not be one episode 1000 of efap i'll be working as a funeral director why why funeral director of all those i could channel my sadness into my work oh oh Jesus or rags yeah yeah makes you think no i think it's kind of nice where if i'm going to be sad then i feel like i could share another people's sadness on the daily get paid for it and maybe i can help them to you know overcome their own bereavement have lost loved ones and i think it's kind of a win-win for everybody in a way i feel like that topic that's just been raised not the not the sharing and the suffering of people the uh the whole idea of doing what you you know that this idea that would be crazy to spend 20 years doing an activity that you clearly enjoyed doing does i not say something about almost the expectations that we have in general as to what we should be doing we like to make a living like because it's not i mean society right in general i mean this is definitely down to individuals because some people don't agree with that at all they'd be like if i'm here 20 years from now that'd be great yeah yeah no i i'm saying that it's because you know it because because some people would hear that 20 years it's like man that that huh yeah 20 years wow i think it's because maybe generally there is an idea that you will like you're journeying towards something and if you find yourself in a place that you truly enjoy and find fulfilling at an early age sort of or you're already there the idea that you continue doing that for 20 more years doesn't quite gel with the concept of well in 20 years i'll be the manager or i'll be the boss or i will have started my own company or i'd be retired like you you will have moved on to the next thing in 20 years is probably generally what happens and i will say right additional jobs the people that i referenced their idea is like i should be a filmmaker by that not a fucking youtuber yeah yeah no i i know that's i guess it's just because yeah the whole thing of like what's next there should always be a next that's that's kind of almost the attitude that i feel like that's probably just an attitude that's cultivated by just the idea that we're always wanting to progress and there's almost this idea that's not progressive it's not changing but you get better at what you're doing even if it's the same fundamental thing i'm sure nobody would just agree with that well i mean like this thing normally is going to act like it's sad but um you've been making films for 20 years no but somebody would think it was sad potentially if you've been making youtube videos for 20 years well like you know you know this is about improving it's like i would genuinely be like hey christ you feel you've significantly improved from day one compared to now on your youtube review reviews and i wonder i don't even know what he would say be like well the camera has a higher resolution um so you've got better equipment who knows that's the thing i have no idea what he thinks because it depends on whether he would is maybe he believes he maybe he thinks that the the ability and the talent and the skill was always it's always something that he's had the world just can't appreciate it or he's not in a position that his kind of his his work can be you know put into the mainstream that's why his goal might not be on actually improving his craft but on what steps do i need to take to get the craft that i have like he denigrated his craft on the space i don't even know that he thinks much of it at all i mean talking about like him as a filmmaker oh not in terms of like his because he obviously he he he thinks down on the thing that got him to work with it he is yeah because he's done but i mean in terms of like like anything that gets him closer to being a director in a quote unquote real movie um maybe that's what he sees as everything has to be building towards that and improving the improving his ability to create content isn't might not really even be related that's not the goal if it happens along the way if he even thinks it's possible then i mean jolly well uh but yeah it's definitely more about the labels for him and the categories yeah i made a film and i had catering it's like cool bro that means it's a real film i was like i don't what film did you make that required catering i suppose it's good that he got catering i mean like why didn't you just go run and grab some sandwiches from five guys or something why didn't you do that yeah it does make you wonder making did you just hire someone did you hire a door dash and call that i guess i'm not sure yeah like i don't know what catering looks like in this world you know in this small scale sort of movie making with like five people yeah you don't need to cater if you go hundreds of people like you got a hundred people yeah well someone makes a mcdonald's run or at the end of the day you go to a restaurant together because it's your this you know i feeling you couldn't it's not like i have to cater for a dozen plus or even a hundred people yeah i don't think it would be unreasonable to be like hey guys do you mind bringing a lunch with you because you know i know it's all possible for everybody i mean i could we'll have like backup stuff but i mean you know small project if you could just pack some sandwiches yeah we're gonna try and get as much done as we can today so bring some sandwiches oh we're gonna have a lunch break but you know bring whatever you can bring some snacks to keep going um but it does kind of make you wonder why didn't you would think that he'd want to be building up these fond memories of being a small filmmaker where he can look back one day and say i remember when we were making uh tiffany's uh hospital visit or whatever the name of the film is and i ain't gonna come for it sport spawn and we were is like oh we are i was a little i i had to go and get the uh the lunch for the crew and i had a list and i ran to mcdonald's and that was the kind of you know thing that we were doing and i look fondly on those memories of me trying to you know create a film in that kind of a setting but i don't know i was like i hired catering because that's just what that's what you're supposed to do that's what films have caterers so i did that and yeah i mean like if we have whatever reason recorded something we put on like four actors and then we had like a right to guy as well as all of us i should be like you guys don't need me to get a caterer right i'm just gonna go i hey i'm gonna i'm making a run to the five guys or whatever what do you guys want or i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna have some pizzas delivered what kind of you know what kind of pizzas do y'all like yeah because i if it gets to the point where i'm ordering catering i'm like i don't know is this what we want something here yeah project surely if you're ordering catering it's gonna be a lot of people there because like you think yeah like 20 30 people that's how i understand catering you got like a crew of like 10 people i reckon you can just order food there it's like what's the other pizzas yeah i call it little caesars hey can i get you know six pizzas you know three pepperoni or you can even call subway and just ask them hey can i get like a bunch of sandwiches you know that's what i did for my um my eagle scout project was um got a list of i had someone go and run to uh chick fillet that we just got a whole bunch of sandwiches and brought them in for everybody so i look back fondly on the times when i was making like um youtube videos on like shitty software working out of a bedroom in a shared student accommodation with seven other people living in the same flat so you get that wasn't no we didn't get catering hmm is it really true you're making at that point we did order food sometimes well that's kind of like yeah there you go like out like alphabetically oh my food group yeah yeah uh well once we threw eggs out of the window i say we once one of my flat meets the eggs out of a window why did you do that he was he was alcohol um oh he was a drink he was a drinkman yeah he was a drinkman um he threw an egg um try and throw it out the window but that kitchen window was really small so it just hit the window frame and then splattered back into the kitchen that was a great great time i look back fondly on that also in that same kitchen had a fight with someone using butter you have butter swords you guys you guys ever had a butter fight i can't say that i have no no i haven't no i've had to be really hard to grab someone i've forged butter into many weapons how it started but there was just i remember being in the situation where both of us were just um getting butter out of the butter box i just like trying to hit each other with the butter the butter box just like chucking the butter at each other that was a fun time that sounds pretty gay like what did we you guys like oh we might get our clothes messed up we should probably be naked yeah yeah yeah hell yeah we um lather me up in butter and i think this was filmed the friend is like you guys it'd be really fun if you like just you know just do a food fight just butter but probably take off your shirts and trousers and well you know what that was a compilation that was made of um of clips from that first year of uni i'm i'm not going to send you the compilation but i could probably cut that clip out and show you guys that if uh if there's a the butter fight because the rest would be too embarrassing but the butter fight now that's okay i mean i understand so the butterfly was like the best part and stuff so okay let's roll the budget went i'll look to see what else is in there i mean it's up to you it's you're under no obligation to show us your your butter and your butter margarine adventures for you and your i don't know your your magical the the fond memories of that healthy new days of your it's up to you that's five minutes long that's a fight it's not a butter fight or is that a lot is that long for a butter fight i don't know no i guess we'll never know tell you i'm not an expert on those such subjects i think i think the video i think i think i'm throwing the egg out of the window is on video as well in this compilation oh my god is that illegal will the police well as long as you don't make a hate crime tweet about it you should be okay you'd have had a license for the egg right i haven't heard who he is so oh so it's a he ah you just live with seven guys so it's one of these seven guys damn we've got a really well yeah we just have one of the people i left with that doesn't explain how gay you are the home you're loyal maybe living with seven guys would turn you off of dudes i don't know it depends on them i suppose do you feel like living with seven women would turn you off women absolutely it's like no hesitation yeah undoubtedly yes and everyone is the another woman in my life oh no half of everyone i see is a woman um are we done with the butter fight conversation i don't want to interrupt it you don't want to slide in the middle of your butter conversation exactly nice man a lot of this is just you know what you should make a um you should take your butter fight and you should make like a scrapbook out of it with pictures and you could you could like glue all the pictures to the insides of the scrapbook all your favorite with butter stills from your butt well no you could use butter i guess but you make a scrapbook about your butter fright and and you put all your pictures in there and if later on well if later on you remember something that you forgot in your butter fight scrapbook you could always write it in the margarine i knew that's what we're waiting for i knew all of it was set up feeling about that one look i i will say that's uh that's an ace word play right there thank you samurai i said samuel moeller so the funny name for him is samuel richard mcgravy son i think samurai is funnier i believe the wigs is a samurai oh just imagining that imagery in my head yeah he's like he studied the blade that's what i believe when you play in fortnite imposter and ariana grande kills master chief and superman before getting told about stopping racism by mlk jr and kratos yeah welcome to 2021 these are such a stupid idea i can't believe that that got through many people many people saw thought somebody thought of that many people thought saw it thought of it and were like yeah that's a good idea no for what it's all what the oh the fortnite mlk thing yeah i still got a dog bites thing about that but uh i need to put out but geez somewhat like there isn't proof by so many people to have i know that's what's doubly crazy about it someone had the idea had the balls to say it out loud in front in front of a bunch of people who are executive level and can make those decisions who happen to agree yeah this is a good move i could imagine this is like the worst possible version of teaching history through the medium of video yeah yeah my faith i can imagine them um they're seeing it like first launch and they're all like respectfully you know looking at the screen they're like we've done a lot today and then a few few players show up and start flossing they're like oh you mentioned flossing so during this presentation thing in the fortnite mlk stuff right they've learned from previous things that they've done this with they're disabling emotes and throwing tomatoes and stuff like that right uh too many people threw tomatoes at the black lives matter oh no they threw tomatoes at my lk but no no no no oh they disabled that because they've tried this before right and they saw where it went horribly wrong so they've disabled like emotes and stuff however the wonder woman's skin pack comes with an emote that is still currently enabled and that emote is where she uses her lasso of truth and does a whipping oh no oh no no what are they doing i honestly this feels almost engineered for controversy to liberally who's like satire dude if it was all accidental and you were in charge of all this you'd be like i fucking hate my life why is this happening if you're in charge of all this and you're the one who signed off on it how did you think in your mind right it when you when you heard this idea and you pictured it in your head as to how it would go what did that look like what is the ideal way that did you think that a bunch of random gamers and 14 year olds would be standing still solemnly in a video game watching some presentation on martin luther king jr no like what what did you what happened that's the butterfly pictures by the way i'm proud of you jay just hitting you so you just putting butter on people well yeah we put butter on each other and that was the fight oh i thought i imagined something different that's all right it's okay it's okay that you imagined that rax i guess this is more realistic depiction of what a butterfly would really be but in my head it was i guess it was more there was just you know an open container of butter and we were both getting some out and we were just like trying to inconvenience each other by smirking it on on them as you do as you do as one does um what do you guys think of jordan peterson and his style of argument and principle i just thought he could help wolf even if it's just about watching it i think i like him in respect him but there's there's a lot of stuff i disagree with him on and a lot of stuff i do agree with him on but yeah he's um really nice guy he's hitting miss for me i like a lot of his stuff and then i'm like eh with a lot of stuff i think wolf knows about jordan peterson um probably heard some stuff from him i think most people have seen jordan peterson stuff at this point at least some of it maybe not like his is read his book or anything but i've not seen any of it um it seems to be avoidable talk about him but uh i don't really i don't really know anything about him uh what are your initial thoughts for the future of internet content on youtube i guess one more time uh what are your initial thoughts for the future of internet content on youtube it will become more corporate more um it it will lose a bit of its sort of grassrootsy kind of um uh i guess that that attribute about it yeah i think it's always gonna be new platforms that have the sort of grassroots stuff isn't it yeah and then as i get bigger and bigger than the big companies move in and i mean i don't think that it will never not like this i this style of content production in terms of i'm a person and i make videos support me and that's my job i don't think that will never get pushed away um but there will be much more there will be more of a presence when it comes to bigger channels and big companies and conglomerates and stuff who try and use this as the new kind of marketing or things of that nature but i mean i think it's just natural for any sort of medium yeah there will always be the good stuff it will not i don't think it will go away i well i would also say like the the edgy belt is tightening just gradually over time as well yeah it will it it will be buried underneath other stuff and not everyone will be able to get a get away with it ding dong long shlong in rags mom also hyal rags hyal by the way haven't said in a while but love you guys even if you're wrong about atla i've also been around since before the show even had a name well well long time ago was a long time ago where there was technically three other podcasts that kind of got morphed into one which is a interesting idea right like all of them were murdered in order to bring to the table this godlike podcast the best podcast in history by the way we were named that by um martin luther king jr yeah so that's pretty neat that's a hell of a credential yeah i was like you sure and he was like dude this isn't a matter of me being sure or not it's it's just the truth i'm like all right now what do you think of the latest episode of what if i really liked it had a lot to say about what people will do to save those they love from dying um i'm just gonna say that i heard springy summarize a dog strange one and i thought it was hilarious or well bad yeah there was a Wikipedia entry it sounded really bad not seen it though could be good i doubt it maybe it does have something meaningful to say about that subject if in a way that isn't awesome perhaps extinct slash mystic animal cat-sized or cat personality what that's all it says oh can you read that again extinct slash mystic animal cat-sized or cat personality or cat personality so you're gonna have the personality of a cat or be the size of a cat but it can't be both i guess so i guess so yeah what is it i will i don't know if this is a question or if it's a statement was there a question mark no i'm unclear on your on your request xsl i do not know what to make of this um i guys inspired to have an early retirement so i enjoy the sigma life plays video games and listen to y'all streams also battlefield 2049 with defans when probably never we did uh we did halo with viewers yeah maybe that'll happen and uh we've done that already maybe it'll happen again my channel on metal stream as well yeah but do you have a vomiting yoshi on your stream yeah okay that's pretty cool um pretty cool so my streams i like the idea though of a guy chilling out in retirement and he's like i'll throw an e-fap and then if fam members come in like what's e-fap and he's like don't i don't have to explain it just go away old people born go away and then the movie begins i hate old people what what do they do didn't die no give me a sec that's too old give them a sec oh man the stupid small man didn't push me far enough um shimai mola shimai min house the black widow review our real bbc do yawn i don't i think they're saying that my review was good go go be the old that's easy for you to interpret stuff isn't it oh that better complimenting me look fuck you i think that's what it says and welsh nurse is neat so thanks for posting some welsh wow see this is why we can't have you here anymore first the pineapple thing yeah then the butter incident really pushing it now do you put pineapple on your butter retweet if your account is not a safe place for welsh quote unquote people i'm offended why i don't have to explain myself why i can just be offended i'm glad to ask i have a better question j what's your favorite roulette number six just just six yeah all right do you have a favorite roulette number it ranks seven oh you're just copying me and adding one i mean that's not really copying you i don't know i've never played roulette so i don't i don't know i like snake eyes double zero that's on a roulette wheel right j you know roulette wheels better than me yeah i've seen at least three oh you fucking serious god damn it i've seen in movies i'm pretty sure they have double zero on it i don't know there you go answer the question and red yeah i like them as well the numbers yeah black and red my favorite numbers i'd love to be sandwiched between five guys rags rags did you say that i don't be saying that it was implied the sandwiching oh i don't even say that i just want to make sure he said that rags you want my money i'll take the plushies double the plush oh double the plush double the fun that was from bully maguire by the way apparently he likes our plushies i think that's meaningful we'll be seeing him potentially in no way home i will say little caesars isn't the best pizza but for the price it's top tier oh i'm dead again why why is these people why they talk about pizza what are they got why they eat that pizza debate well i mean we did bring up pizza too i don't blame them oh i remember that that was a while ago well they give in their perspective now okay is that a problem jay yeah that's what i thought i love i love games that don't in any way moderate what was well like maybe a little bit moderation what was you can call yourself but i'm on an i i know an i o game and i'm like fighting someone called lgbt blm and i'm called cum it's just it's a fun fight you know cum cum versus minorities who will win i feel like cum's got a pretty good starting chance especially as a lot of it can drown all the minorities that was a great sentence more nobody cut that out and send it everywhere because that would would be awkward to explain uh as anyone on the e-fap crew read the original throne trilogy old stars are you for those that have thoughts on it story characters as an as a writer also more of your videos brought me here thanks hey glad you're here no i've not read it i doubt rags or jay have either nope um yeah but maybe one day maybe one day do the long man but i have seen the throne episode of star wars rebels which i'm sure is exactly the same thing yes uh everyone celebrates how fucking great it is sure it's very good i'm sure it's wonderful very high quality definitely isn't key jangling that people clap at sure it's very good he's worse than that i think they make him a shit character um and they pissed everybody off yeah but at least he looks like the guys yeah so that that's great that's great that's what i watched star wars for to the long man at least they made him the right color wow yeah yeah it's true a white throne just wouldn't have been the same to the long man i've been several arguments about objective assessment versus subjective appreciation and death of the author versus authorial intent a co-worker says i should fully detail my thoughts and take notes and get references to make my points clear any advice on where to begin the process hmm do they really want you to do that do they are the this is just like with a co-worker or something yeah i was gonna say that might be a lot of effort do they that i've said that sounds like a lot of effort for somebody who wants like references and shit um are they really that interested in having the conversation and that sort of thing because yeah it's because like there's a lot of subjects to go over and you have to get loads of fundamentals and then you have to have the the conversation will go beyond the scope of judging the movie objectively is what i'm saying and it's really do you both want to do that um maybe maybe not there's going to be a tough one and a long one and for you to have to do all of that work i don't know i just uh just just maybe maybe you don't want to do that maybe instead you could just you just be like you know what if um if you think like it's it's super all subjective maybe just just try and ask them questions based on what they say about movies if you can derive anything fun ways obviously to be like what it what didn't work about x and see if it applies something they like and then try and figure out uh where the differences lie where is the line because i don't know i just wouldn't want you to write down a shit ton like assay's worth and then be like now we shall have the discussion and they're like bro i just want to talk about movies you're going crazy but i appreciate passion it's just yeah it's it's a tough one um there's no easy answer in terms of all of those subjects also high fringy but only 100 e-faps feels like 1.2 billion my god oh my goodness um i don't think we could do 1.2 billion i'm not sure if we have the time maybe rat rags plushie will do the humping oh um that's the feature the feet well it wouldn't be me if it didn't right i guess so i don't know this one's pretty well behaved yeah i'm very uh this one's pretty well behaved and no lines will be broken or anything you know it's but it's more passive bit more of an observer where's the water in this place suddenly it's not even close to everywhere god dammit happy three year anniversary woman haters yay women still exist so we've not managed it yet but we're getting there um there's a record less women now than they were when we started e-fap i'm sure of it yeah this is the fewest women there have ever been so if we keep it up who knows where we will end up i'm so happy for you gentlemen congrats excited to see clip coin and mark here looking forward to my plushies smiley face where be well boys why thank you well no no be well why i i honestly i'm cool with being well i think that's probably a good thing so i am i am happy to say i would gladly be well and thank you for that yeah people drink water out of me i don't want you to be a well that's different jay you made that up i make lots of things up because you're uh you're bad faith that's what you are shout out it's the long man high rags science apology oh yeah what about it i am Scientology that's pretty cool thank you yeah no problem you have that for free uh shout out to the long man high rags free-fringy and big ups liquid richard big ups to liquid richard hell yeah you know who you are what is the liquid riches how do you not know what liquid dick is oh i mean bill the soup what the fuck is happening it all made sense to me i don't know where you lost or how um e-fap was never afraid to talk about controversial takes i respect that a lot however that atletake was pretty tizm debate semi-colon man and settlers once and for all love you massive happy 150 um i did speak to we are uh the conclusion wasn't that atla was great it was that it was like a it was a well i mean i wouldn't want to speak for me the conclusion he came would have been different to mine but uh i i was i was not at that point impressed with atla and to be fair i really don't think that show is going to hold up as well as a four if i were to give it a an inspective rewatch um but lucky for atla fans i just don't really care about that show yeah i did try it's like shangchi i'm not going to care about that chung chong bing bong that's racism rags you did a racism again stop doing even though it just comes out naturally i think that's precisely the problem and that is why you'll be arrested tomorrow that's how you say hello i don't think that's true i think if you went to china and you said nothing but ching chong bing they would all think you're a fucking weirdo sorry i just realized the absurdity of my medical that i presented everyone with traveling to china going through all of that efforts to get off the boat or the plane or whatever it just starts saying ching chong bing bong everywhere you can go well i mean it's a social experiment right maybe it's the way that you say it like if you're at the the market and you don't know like maybe what something is you just hold it up it's like ching chong bing bong like kind of like inquisitively you just got to come across the right person at that point it would be like fuck you what are you doing i've you've been doing this the past like hour yeah you're out on the road and someone accidentally like they almost hit you with a with a rickshaw right and you'd be you'd be angry upset you go like ching chong bing bong and then they'd try to run away from you um as they do uh or maybe you're sleeping and you're sitting there snoring and you're just sleeping and you just go ching chong bing bong and you just sleep in a nap and like strange shock that you're going on right now yes i don't know where we're going with this i guess you seem like it just gets so ingrained that you just replace your entire language with that could happen could or maybe you see maybe you see two friends that you haven't you haven't met them in a long long time you're like chong it's not that names yeah that's their names ching chong bing bong i mean it could be that literally sounds like a like an old like fifties joke that would be yeah happy three years e-fam thank you all for the great content and hard work you do despite all the hate racism and misogyny you guys have actually increased my love for good writing and storytelling oh why thank you increase my love for hate racism and misogyny increase my love for hate oh no increased my love for hate happy birthday e-fap keep on with this greatness cheers oh yeah the drill be good cheers why don't you have hate you're a back why do they hate they have to they don't like die then i will destroy you no kill grave in jessica jones has a type of mind control and agents of shield the inhuman hive controls inhumans and hydra and agents of shield uses hypnosis hypnosis to me hypnosis hypnosis is the thing about new releases and stuff um yes there is also i mean that's a good term actually i can totally see that becoming a thing people saying like i think it was uh doomcock that coined that oh yeah not bad uh as the tumor of cock the cock duma um there is one there was i can't believe i missed the sylvie mind control when i was doing the video about how there's loads of mind controls because that was like the newest one and i didn't include it i'm a big flume yeah lots of mind control in the mcu too many um i don't see how the size of the flume is relevant i know i think it is i mean you know you're welcome to have your own opinion i don't want to have my own opinion congrats lads on the anniversary i'm visiting family today but i'm looking forward to catching you reading this tomorrow hail long man and high rags quick jay's not here hi hi good job i did it did you though yeah i got a cat yesterday and she adores mauler been playing a black widow video all day and it really calmed it down especially when um she had to meet my roommates dog so thank you i'm i'm amazed that me talking about black widow would calm down a cat but you know maybe there's something to study there i think the police i like to see video evidence of the no because i don't believe you i just like to see the cat video of the news by mauler's boy i could see it happening especially if i'm ripping apart black widow the cat hates that shoot that movie so much um i've been so depressed of late mostly because new media that's been coming out um and you guys have been so incredibly helpful keep going strong oh i hope you're doing all right course media can be the big gay but at the same time all that great stuff that would have gotten you into it's still there and you know what there's probably plenty you still haven't seen this great too the thing about that like jay hasn't jay hasn't seen lord the rings yet i haven't seen blind manna you have i was there i was watching you watch it why yes you probably haven't seen blind manna though super chatter like there's a good chance oh yeah go watch the blind manna super chatter do it it's boring and it's not scary oh stop it happy e-fab 150 boys start listening in the past year been catching up with old episodes whilst in the gym of drifting off to sleep in the gym of drifting off to sleep i mean i think they meant or um the only problem now is high top haunts my dreams oh kind of wonderful well i hope you continue enjoying you don't understand zack snider's artistic vision it's funny that i can't tell if that's a joke or not because yeah but i don't want to understand it three years here's to another 50 episodes yeah man already gotten one down another one coming on saturday if you think about it a gun is just a weird foot i don't know don't really see it congratulations to all the boys on another 50 best wishes toward the next 50 why thank you oh yeah thanks much uh high rags hello and all happy 150 been watching since episode one here's to many more thanks for all you do please wish my girlfriend desiree a speedy recovery love ya kick chase um well since this was 150 perhaps she's fully recovered already but if not desiree hope you're doing well just just you be you you beat whatever that is desiree desiree i i mean i'm not sure which one that's right i think well desiree um yes ray hope you do you're well i mean if she's on ray's level she'll be fine that's true yes hope you are well uh hello friends have you heard the good word of metal's delicious blowhole don't step in the rain lest you waterboard yourself i'm really enjoying all this blowhole stuff i don't know what it's about but i respect it i just i hope metal's blowhole is okay i don't know if seems like it could be under threat with all this talk i don't know if he's he's like said that he's okay with all this but yeah i hope he's all right there's blowhole yeah i have deep concern for metal's blowhole yeah so i i guess while it's um on my mind melt blowhole someone in the discord chat posted a link to a video uh by someone called julia cudney some she's a pretty big content creator he said she's a pretty big cunt well maybe no she's she's a she's a large content creator okay and uh the video is called as no doubt you are aware blackwood was brilliant she does the thing where she doesn't punctuate like a civilized person i you know capitalized or anything like that i don't know maybe style it just like she thinks she's the fucking reincarnation of ee coming but i i asked her this question on her video called as no doubt you are aware black widow is brilliant uh and what i asked uh what i asked was for those listening um do you not think that it's horrifically damaging to natin air sister as characters effectively assassinating their heroness when they assault and then murder countless prison guards and prisoners with smiles on their faces and no future moments given to reflect on these horrific acts these are unquestionably evil acts committed against the innocent the film displays are heroes doing blatantly does the evil they commit without reflection not make you question any attempt however pathetic this film makes it portraying these characters as empathetic or relatable that's what i asked and i actually got a response oh um he said more beloved action movies than i can name refrain from diligently considering our action heroes righteousness upon amassing casualties and that actually is a trend i take issue with i do wish black widows prison escape scene for went the avalanche but i don't find the film's indifference toward the prisoners unique nor did that part ruin the hole for me so much more reasonable response than you could have received but i mean i don't agree with it like the idea of the majority of action movies do this anyway so i really don't in fact blackwood was pretty bad in this regard like it's it was surprising that there was just no consideration i was thinking i i i was thinking about asking like so like if if mass murder isn't enough to get you to lose connection with characters what is but i'm like it's she's just gonna bullshit yeah and i just i want it said because i imagine when people hear the argument she just made they're thinking about like hey you know what luke kind of blew up the death star he didn't consider all the people in there i should be like these are not the same military target yeah these are not the same events a black widow did this to get a prisoner she wanted to talk to that's why she did all of that a lot of people died doing their jobs yeah what black widow did was murder what luke did was totally morally justified and necessary they're about to destroy a fucking planet yeah and they had destroyed one before that yep so um i'm not saying she's referencing that specifically i'm just saying that a lot of people do and it's annoying fuck um but uh yeah i'm glad she thought that black widow was so good it's great um i had a really fucking disaster are you umbo are you glad of that well i would rather she had fun with it than she have anti-fun with it i don't even know if that's true because then she maybe would have felt the need to be like actually no this is very poorly written so i'm assuming she has a video where she's saying that it's a good film that's unfortunate who is this person someone called julia kudney she has 180 000 subs but her video only had like 12 000 views so i don't know maybe they they were interested in black really really not at all impressed with what i watched in her video is really pretty much pretty worthless but i find that interesting though that she's almost like arguing apathy like i've seen it done so many times it's just not something that bothers me anymore and i can get into characters regardless of mass matters like huh maybe maybe that's the commentary to make is i've movies brought me to the point where i'm just so emotionally just gray and just despondent at the concept that a character commits mass murder and i just can't feel anything with it it's like what does that say about media and how i can relate to it like that's a conversation to have instead of just what in here yeah oh for any he's having some issues with his internet those emails are up to something there yeah the chewing on the wires yeah they got the internet news there they're cutting those wires with their razor sharp warbeaks i am new uh sad it took me so long to watch but it's better late than never right uh yeah it is better late than ever we're glad you're here hope you're having fun anyone here who's the first e-fap stream i hope we've given a good impression of who we are as people yes had a good chat about capsicum and and fringy was wrong completely obliterated gone back to his i'm wrong hole race and adaptation yes yes we did it's good good variety of topics here you know race adaptation racism capsicum lol imagine trying to explain what e-fap is to strangers okay so this is faca in texas and the rest is history pretty much yeah that's where it all started you know i didn't even really know anything about him i think rags you you were aware of him it was wolf it was like oh you go see jared yeah i was aware of him i'd covered him before i think that's how he i think it might have been coincidental like oh do you know this guy jared genesis and i'm like i've covered i think i've covered him once or maybe once or twice in the early days of yeah i was a jared virgin you see like he is yes um as a follow-up a few co-workers have asked me for my thoughts on subjects regarding several topics a few admittedly troll me incessantly yeah just sort of pick your battles per se with that one i wouldn't want to put too much effort into something that they're not going to be interested in ultimately i guess just um and it's a tough subject it really is going to want to save that for people who are super invested in the conversation i'm getting sleepy so i'm i'm getting about ready to hop out very well jay do you want to tell people what you're up to all all stuff in case they like who the f**k are you for whatever reason um i have a channel called jaxie where i piss and s**t content he pisses and s**t content it's that easy for him that's what he means then then you can go over there you can see me pissing and s**t oh all right thank thank you okay bye and so it was just me and you ranks so it's like the old days yeah it is kind of like the old days mostly sort of um oh the mid days i guess i should say uh do do do movie bob in slow motion cover when i'm moodle movie bob in slow motion cover when i do not know what they're asking for there oh like we like we do a slow mo version of uh movie bob maybe like we slow him down oh i mean we'll probably cover him at some point i think we still need to cover the video where he has like advice on how to be a healthy gamer oh yeah that's right we've been recommended that well we're more than one person the idea was to save a razor fist but i can't seem to get razor fists attention on uh on anything so maybe one day who knows because i think that would be pretty funny what do you think of harley's 69 joke in the suicide squad ps watch plus one 2013 it's a mixed bag but definitely has less doesn't have stuff to talk about um okay and ps plus ttt efab gaming when i do not know i do not know as for the 69 joke i thought it was lame as fuck it's like it took a while to explain a joke that i think everybody got instantly yeah like i don't know like you're almost expecting it to turn out to be not a joke like it's actually referencing like it just happens that there were are she legitimately thought there were 69 people there was something like it was really shit because they kind of do all the motions of the joke like 69 people how is possible and he's like they did a sex joke on me oh yeah good could have been better could have been better uh greetings molar and company i first found you through your last Jedi video though i didn't find out about efab until the 20s wow 1920 been a while crazy yeah going for a while yeah it's hard to believe we've been going for that long yeah um i hope all this day is fun for you as long as it can oh it still is and to be fair all three of us were doing this long before if i've even started so you got a good oh i fell through the floor sweet um yes i think i did but yeah that efab's got a long long life left i'd imagine for episode 200 you should do a 24 minute stream i think people would be upset if we did that it'd be like where's the other 24 minutes uh wolf said he'd be quickly forgotten in his goodbye video this intro proves that wrong hope you're doing well wolf though you won't likely see this yeah he's not gonna he's not gonna be forgotten he's a good life yeah please don't kill me oh no no no oh gosh so intense uh molar can finally quit his day job after becoming a global plushy tycoon yeah i mean you mean rags are clearly gods of the plushy industry you know we'll have to expand the plushy empire um what does hbd stand for hbd how been doing how how about um how about this no i don't know um well it says how hbd efab it's like is that a show maybe i don't know chat have you got any suggestions about that could just be that yeah uh i raggle fringle and moldigrat oh moldy um yes hello oh is he back bring you okay oh it's being super spotty to that phase that's fun well that's the worst i guess you didn't you didn't hear any of that all right yeah you said your internet's being super spotty yeah so that's fun doesn't sound very fun at all oh it's happy birthday that makes sense ah well you know i hope the internet behaves a bit more yeah it's being a dangerous uh oh shit grads for three years been the best entertainment for a year caught up in eight months you're the best channel on youtube enjoy your nuggies and have a great long time my massives oh that's very kind thank you yes with nuggies there's nothing we can't do all right power i'm not even my topic on gender swapping in movies okay how so what was that sorry i don't know apparently i'm not even myopic about race and gender swapping and entertainment so i'm sure i'll get a you need to stop stating the position without any arguments and just just want to do it please put the argument in just throw it back be like they're myopic about it yeah you're not even myopic about it yeah i'm glad we got somewhere on that one um i want to chase plushy so i can punch it in the balls oh my and oh jeez well maybe there's an there's an industry there maybe he can take advantage of that i don't know um hi guys love you three from from bomb b o m h maybe that's a place maybe it's a short i would assume it's a place i would assume there somewhere well you could be from like a state of mind like i used to be a but now i think differently or maybe i've ascended right a different plane of existence thanks to efap and which is not likely but possible um shout out to m mutl and j bones thanks for getting me through the worst times efap mini for sharp objects uh does anyone know what sharp objects is i think that's the hbo show or something with amy adams i think not sure seven to eight out of ten good characters not a slow burn more sweep a seeping poison show alright so it is a show then right um um i'm obviously oh the follow-up on that argument i'm obviously not getting on it but if you're not too scared get ripper on to set your straight bra i think that was english um ripper's wrong and he's just gonna do what everyone else does which i like him but he's not going to be able to we've heard the argument before yeah you need arguments for starters and he's just going to make appeals to i don't like it which i can certainly sympathize with but that's not going to change your minds because we have a really strong position that's very consistent fucking i fell through the floor again um god damn stop blaming the world for your failure all right um yeah i'm on good terms with shit tons of people who do the whole adaptation argument thing it's like we're here on on evap um are arguably in the minority but it doesn't make us any less fucking right i guess it's not something that um we were even all thoroughly on board with at first but it's just like the more you argue with the more you figure it out um yeah the more you separate um the quality of the adaptation meaning how much they adhere to the original content versus how well told story is are two different things they need to be separated otherwise we're gonna have serious problems where great work is not appreciated yep and that's not what we do here yeah in order to destroy great art uh we have to i was sorry in order to destroy great art we have to establish great art canon does exist so very important rags i'm curious what is your carry piece a glock 26 is what i carry sometimes i will carry my macarov with me it is slimmer it has a lower capacity however it is also a bit heavier but generally it will be a um generally it is a second question is more low what is the next efat movie planned hmm i guess that would be the the halloween set we're trying we're gonna try and do all the resident evils they are coming out i'm hoping to get them done by them it's gonna be a little fun little special throughout the month unfortunately fringy will not be in those but you will be in the streams um also for both least favorite foods well as we we talked about about it briefly onions i hate onions um not a fan of cauliflower at all yeah we had the beetroot thing beetroot's probably something i'm not yeah um i'm fine with cauliflower uh onions i i would never want a raw onion that would be fucked up for me i'll be like yeah hmm a gimpy gimpy plant that's not one of my favorite foods definitely on the low on the west that's not a food though it's not is it edible fringy well i mean i suppose yeah but sulfuric acid is edible that is also low on my list sulfuric acid yeah if i mean like if that's what you mean by edible that's not that's not that meaningful of a word really like edible means you could yeah because anything that you can put in your mouth and and yeah yeah like like an oil tanker that isn't edible i guess but yes yeah oil tank is one of the low ones yeah not a fan it take you your whole life and you have to eat it by bit you guys ever tried oil tanker it's just i don't know i'm on the oil tanker diet um this is doll of your gay conversion therapy you masses oh thanks i'll put that's a good use yeah we'll get going on that straight away ironically the only way to get you to not be gay is to have jesus come into your heart oh that's cute that's super cute well look at all those happy villages i know i saved the whole day and possibly future days yeah um here i'm all a tell free about the jumbo wombo plant that grows in the highlands of wales that's a secret you can only you have to see it for yourself to believe it you wouldn't otherwise oh one day haha jay's right struggling female actors usually do end up getting shafted oh my god oh i see what you did there i often because they're an experience they feel like they don't really get the pay and the recognition that they sometimes deserve yeah yeah that would yeah that was a yeah how many times would rags have to say the n-word with a hard r on stream before you'd kick him off e-fab um i mean it's the same amount that i guess would the to us would probably kick him out before i could even do it i have that kind of power yeah nuggies are back on the menu boys use this money to buy yourselves and all the guests nuggies to three years of e-fappin it's a lot of nuggies we're gonna get i'm gonna use all of 150 super chats to get nuggies um representing the oppressive discord mods oh stone rad cost there well give us a chat gotta represent for the discord mods however oppressive um i can't believe it's been a year since we got life lessons from tonal but i want to thank you for another year of wonderful content you provided and happy fringies co-hosting for the next one hey all right thank you good stuff much thank you yeah um i knew a guy who's left on was a nub around an inch past the elbow and he could play battlefield 4 and xbox one pretty decently i think this is when we were re-discussing some of the peripheral stuff for uh jenot jim sterlin's older video about the um i'm privileged goggles yeah hi mola hi rags love you j hello are you guys ready for all the video assayists who will worship the token society's wonderful take on his works will we get some videos on the conference itself oh fuck no probably not that conference sounds like a nightmare wasn't it like uh gondor in transition was one of the titles is everything the left touches is just shit this just says oh i knew a guy right congrats on three years i joined during the game thrown season eight saga i hadn't been watching streams but i couldn't resist a four-hour upload of people complaining about danny's choice to burn king's landing i'd believe there's been so many tizm since then here's to another at least yeah man it's been a while since the game of throne stuff us is that 2019 mid 2019 yes that happened yeah man god it's been so long uh ps mola i love the surprise uploads they're always bring a smile to my face that's what i'm gunning for now no more no more of this you know you gotta be hyping up about a particular topic just like you know what just a real cool video is gonna pop up hopefully and you know hopefully you guys will have some fun with it yeah um always need to know people are joining a different points in history and it's crazy to know how long it's been since a lot of them game of thrones man that was another one of those um you start a stream talking about the how shit the show is and then like loads of people who've never even seen the channel before and they're like fuck this show i needed to go on the internet to say that yeah um oh everybody it was the same way i'm not insane yeah pretty much well that was that was tlj for me with a lot of people i was just like oh shit i am far from the only one because i'm so used to being like guy with with minority movie opinion that when i started getting shit tons of people saying they agree i was like oh they just pissed pissed off a lot of people well in venos in venos wow in fairness um a lot of people were pissed that my videos existed too you guys may remember that early efap era just bought the plushie pair to support my two favorite creators happy 150 everyone well thank you so much happy 150 indeed that jim's pronouns are fat and ass now now jim may be enormous but that doesn't play into any of the opinions about the goggles okay that was so awkward too because a lot of people um value vr as a way of being like man this can convince me to do like exercise in a way that's really really fun and like part of jim's argument was like what about people who have like low mobility this will never work it's like why don't you see it it's the other way around like it'll encourage them and i'm pretty sure most vr games are um trying to be they try to account for people who have like less mobility and stuff lots of options and vr man it's gonna be a huge industry when they get it all figured out i imagine be like um do you ever see gamer remember that film i've heard of it i do remember that film am i making shit up or was it like there was like a vr setup where you take control of a person like a convict or whatever in a video game yes they're real people so jarad butler was a real person and there was like some guy playing a professional competitive video game yeah that's about all i remember about that i know terry cruz was in it um hi mauler hello plot twist these headpats are for free have a good day for eat also can i get a few noise from you oh thanks no but thanks it's like confusing there you go well that's that's one no there needs to be a couple of nos no oh look at that another one right there yeah um you must add either chris chan hasan piker or movie bob is a permanent e-fap host who do you pick you can't say none or i'd rather shut down e-fap's answers you have to keep e-fap going oh i'm probably movie bob he seems like he'd be most non-criminal and interesting i don't know man it's not even an option i'll consider good gonna be completely honest here i don't even see this i didn't even think for a second about doing the whole uh none of them it's like hasan piker in a fucking instant i would drag him on here i would have so much fun talking to him about all subjects he's such a fucking idiot i'd be like son what do you think about her killing all those people in the prison i can't imagine what stupid shit he might say i should be like yeah maybe i should be like people remember okay i was forced to have him as a co-host i didn't use this so yeah i would assign it in a hot beat movie bob would be funny but i get so fucking bored of him and like his insanity and then yeah chris chan that's just a nah uh fringy what's your favorite roulette number i have no preference oh what if it would gun to your head you had to choose i'm not uh five all right five of this five uh fringy i got my anime waifu when i was 16 she was she is 14 and now i'm 28 is it creepy that i still have my waifu is it okay because she's grandfathered in it seems more like a legal issue that you might have to what kind of question is that fringy new here is we only get weird questions i already asked the other host this two years ago oh fuck what a throwback that's why i can't remember this i can't remember the answer it's freshly weird i think nor is the answer um i want chicken nuggy plushy i'm going to bad boys y'all have a great night night could just sell a chicken nugget plushy it's just a big nugget like a pillow fringy do you nor about natural intelligence faster more powerful than ai search researchers investigate decision-making by physical phenomena i'm not familiar with that but that sounds very interesting faster and more powerful than ai it's very interesting decision-making by physical phenomena yeah i i'm not sure what that's referencing but so in center eastern okay where are we only hell is that metal my back hurts too much to stream commander what the fuck dude gosh yeah he healed up he's what do you say pinched a nerve i think he said oh did he yeah you don't want to do that nerves get all upset when you do that i bought an adolf costume for my rags plush and an rc skull on wheels for my molar plush and i will use the two to destroy art also uh fitting props yeah also rags ass also high rags hello i've watched the ending of mass effect three and i hate almost every facet of it minus the beginning of the fight i got a more satisfying end to the battle in me three in stelares when i was nuking a planet from orbit that doesn't mean anything to me yeah the the the mass effect three ending is infamously bad yeah do you remember when things could just have bad endings it's just a bad ending you know and it was like if only they'd made these instead of just the whole thing was a nightmare yeah those were the days well it was when you could actually get upset that like the ending sucks you know because there was something to be upset about because you cared i suppose something good before part of what's funny about this is that when black widow was first getting his reviews a lot of people were like first two acts were great they're back not so much it was like what why dude the whole thing why stop it it's all closer looked at a video for a black widow i'd be curious what is conclusions where was it epic was it bone chilling what do you think would be um more more insightful on black widow high top if you made a video or filmento hey take us i'm sorry i'm sorry i totally blanked out what's that who do you think would be more insightful high top or filmento in relation to black widow um um that sounded like your brain was gonna go with high top but then you were like hmm no i'm not sure i don't know actually insightful well how many of them have said anything insightful like at all really who has said an insightful thing between the two um i guess filmento would be like he says things that are wrong but i think he does try to actually make observations about what's in a story he's just got a lot of preconceived notions we get in the way whereas high top doesn't do that so it wouldn't be a fun conversation at all uh some people saying the stream was down and hopefully it's back up oh what they're saying that back a lot of people saying are we back yeah hopefully we are um but i don't know i what i will say is funnily enough like i really get annoyed by high tops like hyper artsy editing like it's attempt to just throw colors everywhere but at the same time i don't like filmento's over reliance on like over editing everything it's like which do you prefer oh man and i know that's not necessarily do with any insight but i mean i gotta factor it in if i'm choosing new i'm gonna watch hmm i think i which well okay which one makes you less like annoyed it might actually come down to just how long both of them are hate to see it you hate because if it's a 30 minute filmento versus a seven minute high top i'd be like oh dude i feel like the answer is obvious if they're both 15 though hmm i think there'll be more first to talk about in filmento video because he usually establishes rules in storytelling and then we can talk about them yeah exactly high top usually appeals to emotion just constantly this is nothing in there or rather there's stuff that everyone it says in there um how sad and ironic it will be if hassan throws away his old streaming chair when moving house yeah i mean that that she has been through a lot i think it'll be really sad if uh if the chair doesn't get to come with but i mean you know don't his job served his purpose as you would say and propping up his aster he just mm-hmm fringy it's okay the wife is not real she's a $1,350 custom anime pillow so it's all legal does that help clear everything up not really doesn't hurt right talking about damn man particular $1,300 pillow it must be like really high quality i guess i'll be good a body pillow is like super expensive i don't know that sounds like something that could very wildly in quality based off of um the artwork like how well how like good the pillow part is more than anything else like the actual material of the pillow yeah does a fring snore when sleeping snore i got it uh i don't know i might no you have to record to find out that's something you need to know them going forward oh that's very loud i'm gonna mute for a second uh can we get a gadel plushie made from rejected spare parts of other e-fat plushies with a sound box that says random gadel phrases i don't even know what the gadel plushie would look like should it just be like a collection of other youtubers like one arm is this guy the other arm is this guy the body is this person the head is a couple people i just got up they evil cloud spirit that would be pretty funny though uh spent three days trying to fix the elder scrolls oblivion stutter i gave up i'll try again next year also racks i just got a ruga a5 ar-556 or 556 556 556 it's a caliber saw it at cabela's and instantly bought ar-15s have been hard to get yeah i didn't know that they were but maybe maybe a certain places i didn't know that they themselves were getting where we're uncommon are there any laws that have come out against our ar-15s i know that that one guy wanted to maybe in some super lefty states but in any reasonable state no people are just buying them up a whole bunch uh a lot more money these days which is good that's why the ammo yeah that's part of a thing with ammo shortages um a lot more people buying ammo is there um is that gun just top dog does any gun sort of outclass it in any way or will no time it depends on what you mean by top dog i don't know i just hear it all the time you know it's very very yeah it's very very common it's just a semi-automatic version of the the m4 it's been around for a long time it's been the us service rifle for you know generations now there's a lot of reasons why it's super popular and common i mean they're cheap there's a lot of support for them all kinds of attachments and things you can get for them so there's probably probably not for a long time it probably will like legitimately not be until years or generations after the us military chooses a different uh rifle and i don't think they're going to for a while they might they might swap to a bigger caliber i think that's the thing that's going to happen is we're going to be going from like 556 to like a 6.5 something like that in the future potentially there are no um sorry i meant bf portal with fans also uh when also ju sorry i meant bf portal with fans when also ju well jay's been careful oh yeah bf portal yeah that's the cool battlefield thing where you can set up it's got all like the weapons from old battlefields and you could set up crazy custom rules things like one team has knives and the other team has defibrillators stuff like that is a is it called portal as a reference to portal or is it just a different thing no it's i guess it's because it's supposed to be like a portal to all the different game modes and things all the different like eras that makes sense yeah it looks it looks really cool like you could have modern us soldiers fighting against world war two germans and it's it sounds like a lot of fun it sounds like a lot of fun hello efab gang congratulations on 150 and looking forward to many more may your days be long and objectively good also high rags hello why thank you um does the rags plushy fit in a jar probably around the jar is large enough so the the rags plush is very um how to say it's very i guess it's not stretchy durable right so you should you should be easy with it though because it like the legit is really nice and you want to keep it in good shape but yeah if it's like because i use gallon size jars jars to make tea so you could them but i wouldn't try to fit it in and fit it in smaller stuff there you go hey efab you guys are all right question if any of you played any mega man games if so what is your favorite one um i played a couple of them i think my favorite was a i played a fan game of one of them a very popular one i was very impressed i liked it a whole bunch i figure what is called now though i played um uh one on the gameboy advance that you played a zero and uh i forget what it was called but it was fine i it was all right you know something i could sink some time into and learn didn't think it was bad doth thou have any mega man commentary fringo i would suppose what's that sorry uh mega man what's what's your uh what do you like about mega man i played mega man i think i played a little bit of the new one that came out but otherwise i'm not familiar with it at all there you go we got we got we're limited on mega man i'm afraid mega man zero could be the one rags did someone suggest it i don't know i don't know the mega man names of the games zero is the the edgier one a little bit edgier from what i think so he's got red he's got like red he's got the hair thingy that comes out the back yeah mighty number nine is my favorite yeah that's a favorite favorite choice yeah yeah everybody loves that one mm-hmm this just says brb oh we'll see you later you later yeah uh we put the podcast name on everything merchandising merchandising we're the real money for the podcast made you have the t-shirt you have the lunchbox you have the breakfast cereal you have flamethrower the kids love that one yeah we'll make some oh that's the spaceballs thing yeah i i i i feel like it would be inevitable for a new fat flamethrower me and rags just have to find the right sort of you know people do you think makeshift do flamethrowers that would be odd for a company to also make flamethrowers that would be a little strange i suppose they wouldn't expect you to use it on the flamethrowers it's just so it's just there is another thing popping in and out today it's my 25th birthday and what a wonderful birthday kiff the third anniversary of my all time favorite podcast i hope you have a wonderful stream and many more years to come and hi rags hello well i'm the birthday yeah i hope you had a great birthday yes we would have we would likely have been there through to when you were having a nice little sleep on your birthday too where is blessed pikeman his gay erotica tails need to return well that super chateau would have been happy by the end yeah yeah oh yes hi rags hello been watching you all stuff since before e-fab and i've really enjoyed following the podcast though i haven't really been following the super chat catch up so please read this on the stream lol well i mean i'm afraid sometimes they end up in different places and here we are cheers to 150 episodes in three years way to go thank you very much um hey umass has checked out the ot stowell's radio dramas the first two features some of the original cast and are objectively good rat long too i do those existing i've not heard any of them sound interesting though i wonder what they're just like bonus adventures sort of thing or are they recreations i would imagine shumaito good translation of my previous kumrai super chat i enjoyed the black widow review your mates clearly have well shenvi not surprised oil vow yeah good me a little bit sneaking in there uh what is the objectively coolest arthropod insects spider scorpions etc my vote is on the praying mantis um i don't know i feel like scorpions are really cool i was going to go with scorpions like the scorpions are cool the scorpions cool factor for me out weighs the scare factor while spiders they're just safely in the scare factor column for me just like look at them so creepy but like look how cool scorpions are and what a cool name scorpion or maybe it feels cool because it's based on scorpions you know i imagine that applies to all words right but i would go as far as saying is there anything that has like shit that has a really good name um trying to think of like maybe some kind of like there's probably like a fish out there that's like really flashy and sludgy and looks weird but it's also maybe got like a really cool name not sure i do not know maybe chat will know dragonflies that's not a bad name yeah fastest insects i think dragon flies mantis is a cool name too yeah i think so um star wars the last jedi i suppose um komodo dragon isn't a real dragon yeah but it's a cool name i'm you i'm saying a shitty thing a thing that's like a real komodo i don't know it's the ultimate question that's a oh there's an interesting observation black widow i saw i mean wait why do we think these things are shit i guess that's the part where i got confused by why is a black widow shit i don't think that's shit i don't think a black widow yeah it's black and it's behavior is what it is so yeah i don't see it's mean you can hurt people you know maybe that's that's what widows do i guess mantis toboggan i don't know about these names again lost um there you go i spent so much trying to kind of get through there i've spent so much money trying to get frongo to engage with the waifu question also the pillow is expensive because custom art on top of the line pillow okay yeah i bet that would have a part to play in it this person very much wants your approval of the pillow i guess ringy i don't know what it means or anything like that so that's why i don't want to like answer that question at all i'm so sorry what it means he doesn't understand it i don't blame him yeah i don't understand it and if i don't understand it i don't want to that's basically it hey gents congrats on 150 curious as to each of your educational background in film and writing if any many thanks from a grateful vet oh i have none um i did some media studies it didn't last very long and then yeah for film nah nothing really at all uh i just watched a shit ton of them no i like them are you free have you got film school in you in your blood i thought about going to film school but then i didn't um so no i don't have a creative writing or uh film school done some classes on writing or read books on it and of course talked about it with these fellas yeah credentials but um done a bunch of art stuff in like university and everything and then for you did lore right yeah so you can teach us about how black widow did a meanie in the uh in the prison scene something like that yeah that's uh after big bad right there where am i supposed to go next would you rather deal with scorpions or centipedes scorpions i'd rather deal with scorpions i honestly my answer would just be after researching whichever one turns out to be more deadly i guess is the the one i don't want to i don't actually know which one is more deadly centipedes can be quite big some of them have very painful bites um yeah that would be the reason why i would prefer that over the scorpion scorpions are cool but like i feel like i could fend one off better than a centipede what's like the biggest scariest scorpion then oh fuck i died i'm not sure actually i don't know there's probably some evil looking thing is it in australia i don't i don't know that we have scorpions here wow um apparently if you say cum with a you and one less oh in chat youtube senses it and doesn't send it out unless that's a mod thing what else is censored like cum is censored c-o-m no i think it's saying the normal way spell cum is is censored c-u-m yeah oh i guess i mean it's it's it's slang for semen is semen censored i don't know that's a i don't know usually the smaller the scorpion the deadlier how about that yeah i'm very limited on my scorpion knowledge i just know they're cool all right cool dudes yeah cool um i had to pick up a shift today to make money for super chats the only podcast that i can say i've been a fan of since the beginning long live efap well thank you very much yeah i hope you're having a good day three years and seven months since i found you and wolf thanks to rags what a wild 28 months it's been from jaren to hasan here's to another 150 to cum that's another thing like i have no idea what day i actually met any of you guys um you just have to base it around the first efap was essentially love goss like throughout that it wasn't long before your um your stream right rags i met you right before that we did a stream on star wars yes yeah i think it was pretty pretty soon before that yeah yeah god this mission is fucking lame i don't know if you remember this one for me but you have to get the right fruit from this little fruit dispensary thing you know it's the one you kick into yoshi and then you got to get him across all the platforms i can barely remember that one it's an optional one but it's fucking sounds pain pain one sounds pain your objectives are based on your values whether they pass or fail is objective but what values you have can be subjective love you guys uh values you have can be sure it can be like if you just like it because it feels good like i like this as a value because it makes me feel happy your like that instead of basing it off a more objective metric it's certainly like deriving it from the categorization we're dealing with anyway you can get very objective in how you try to approach all of it that doesn't mean it ain't fun and useful to talk about how it makes you feel and why of course a great example that's fucking cuties um there's a vampire character in a show i heard my sister watches two called russell edgington the actor is going full ham russell edgington russell edgington interesting name yeah oh i really don't like this part of the game uh gonna catch up to 150 later at two times speed just bought the plushies any plans on making a commemorative wolf plush i'd ask about free but nor no boy that'll be big no on on zevolf one scientific method is really gay though and yeah it's a bit gay but yeah well but that's a little bit of gay in there a bit of gay that's all right bigger higher platform police um happy third anniversary of pausing every frame i've been here since the beginning and i thank all of you very much for helping me look at media with a more critical eye um see this is one of six so i'll try and catch them all here yeah moeller please split these donations between you rags ringing metal and wolf i would also like to make a suggestion if i may although media criticism is important i would like to see you guys discuss deeper topics like religion and philosophy oh my it would be interesting to see rags and shad go at it about christianity versus Mormonism um christian uh yeah even rags and even yeah also i don't think he would want that to be public i don't expect you guys to do something like that but it would be pretty cool if you did anyways i have an uh have an excellent stream and good luck making it through 24 hours praise the dawn oh and by the way moeller i don't know if you remember me but i used to go by the name of chip chipley my current name is more original and pronounced paraclies paraclies paraclies uh also i started playing doxel three last week and having a blast most of the time at least what is a good place to farm souls for the mid game oh man i'm not even sure metal could answer that question at this point um i think google is your friend on that one i do not remember i'm afraid it's been so long but thank you and um i it's interesting to have someone advocate for more religion and philosophical debates or all discussions interesting that's interesting oh yeah i don't know yeah so i realized my youtube account name doesn't match my discord name so i just changed it now i was whole horse but now i am fixed excellent annual atonement for ad block well thank you very much oh thank you any thoughts on invincible congrats on 150 still no thoughts on invincible maybe we'll watch it when nobody cares about it and then be like it was all right or it was shit or it was great i'm like oh my god after all this time um i'd like to see oh wait that's not right that one i do not expect you guys oh wait no i read that one too see now more confused where are we two molar and old guests from florida man would you rather fuck a tank or get fucked by a tank rather fuck a tank i feel like if a tank tried to have sex with me i would die i was about to say are we talking is this some of the slang here or are we talking about an actual tank because i feel like it's gonna kill me does your answer change if pregnancy is evolved not really no it doesn't no it really doesn't no no long-time lurker first-time donator glad to be able to give to the toxic brood hi moriarty and hail rags hail hi there thank you happy 150 hi rag frungus mcdungus no stripping well we didn't do any stripping on e-fab 150 says yeah i didn't do any stripping laugh me off if it is cum is censored wait cum and cum is censored or just cum or just cum i'm not sure well either way it's terrible and it shouldn't be the case it's a horror that's what i say can we actually get him to oh still at a range yes down with censorship of cum wait does this one go up no okay oh my god this mission is dead thank goodness let's get in here before yoshi dies fun fact basement is sometimes censored in games because it contains the word semen but honestly who doesn't have a basement with semen in it yeah you know a little bit a little bit here and there for everybody put a little smiley face after that a little bit disturbing but not really you know it's fine and damn near forgot high rags oh hello to you i spent like 70 dollars on super chats today and bought both plushies can you please tell my friend oh damn thank you so much yeah thank you very much can you please tell my friend carlos that end of evangelion is worse than last jedi in every way i haven't seen it so i don't know what if i'm saying something ridiculous yeah i don't yeah but it i have no idea i mean it's probably an anime so ranks you think it's it's it's almost a guarantee yeah but it is tlj that's true it's true it's a toughy that's the end of evangelion i don't even know what that is what do we think chat is that is that a crazy thought or is it close to reality end of evangelion is a trip you know that could still mean it's really good damn that's a take no it was terrible hmm but could it be worse than tlj i'm sorry if we simply do not know that to be true and to say it would just it would breach every principle this podcast dance will it would destroy everything do you know how much we sacrificed i'm something of an anime myself oh no we're better than that it sounds terrible um e-fab what's your take on making an adaptation of a work with floors would you keep the floors or change the adaptation to mitigate the floors i would change it i'd change the adaptation to uh how to get the flaws yeah i don't if something was just like a flaw and i knew it and i recognized it and i kept it and it's like well what's the point making an adaptation you know like how i'm just gonna not yeah you know if you adapted the ot to um i guess a tv show or something i don't know why you do this but let's just say you were um you know that the whole the approach with java and retina jedi i'd be like okay we're gonna rewrite this so it actually makes sense and that there's a plan and that the the plan will become clear by the time it's engaging that's the way to do it because i fucking have no idea what the plan was and if we change pieces to then resemble a plan and thus it's no longer the same as the original i'd be like that's okay that's okay then again it would be complicated in terms of like i wonder if fans would want it so that you just don't touch anything keep everything the same or as close to as you can but at that point i guess you're just wondering what are we doing here you know yeah you have the ot why not just engage with the original material yeah i would yeah i would hope at that point we'd be able to change stuff and uh hopefully for the better most of return of the jedi could be rewritten i mean changed you know i try and keep a lot of it the way that it is in terms of structure started job is releasing hard i think all that works then the end or stuff you know we just need to tweak all of it would you keep the ewoks for you would you have them be wookies as was originally intended i think i'd prefer if they were wookies i don't mind ewoks but i think wookies just makes most like if we're gonna have them beat the empire i can believe it more if it's the wookies i need to get an opportunity to have some stuff with Chewbacca right more stuff yeah exactly they should be black people look i'm not quintin reviews okay i'm i don't i'm not making those changes congrats on 150 i've fallen off recently since i haven't watched any marvel stuff since endgame but watching your hasan tandy stream gave me joy i like that too people like oh this marvel stuff kind of oh shit they're talking about hasan count me in and is oh my god discovered you guys a year ago and you've been helping me get through life's hardships ever since i appreciate you all and your wonderful content why thank you hope you're doing thanks hope you're doing well objectivity and objective value are not the same thing objective value is just a tool we use to have intelligent discussions etc if someone had an objective value everyone would value it the exact same high rags hello i'm a little bit lost on what's been said there do you mean what is an objective value if not a value reached objectively yeah like about that my value is this because i have analyzed that value to have like if like if you're maybe a secular humanist right and you value the well-being of human you value the well-being of humans because it means this and that and the other thing and it leads to all this other stuff and it's really good and it leads to good things and society and people are able to like flourish and whatnot um yeah i you know like um it's the word value it's getting again moved around all over here and i'm like you know how a value can be a number on a like a thermometer yeah so like if i said that was an objective value as in the number but that the number is this based on the system that we've agreed upon so yeah that's sort of what else we can do that's like the best we can do as humans to be objective i think we do indeed try will you review the wheel of time series on amazon i don't know if any of us here have read a new book so that wheel of time yeah i haven't read them now wolf will probably have something to say about that but yes well to me anyway um grand tour i love dragon bowl gt fringy still wrong i don't know about what look all i'm interpreting out of that is praise just in general praise for grand tour that's all i'm that's all i'm getting out of that and i agree grand tour is good shit em's laugh gives me life wish wish chase was here well we'll uh we'll try and get them both for a future episode who knows what's lies ahead the card and discovery at tenagra shaka when the ratings four fell what's tenagra or tenagra uh there is a famous star trek the next generation episode called uh darmak and it's where the darmak and gelat at tenagra thing comes from the story is about a captain of a basically the enterprise comes into contact with a with the ships from an alien race who have an unusual language and it's in the the language is about the video is about breaching the language gap between two spaceships because the captain of the alien ship transports captain the card and the captain of the alien ship transports the both of them down onto a planet where they have to overcome some obstacle and hopefully by doing so he will they'll learn each other's languages and that that it's it's pretty it's pretty as long as you can accept the absolutely stupid premise of how the alien language works it's a it's a really nice episode it's really neat hi anna someone give rags a dog treat or a beer whichever is closer you know whichever we want you prefer at the time i suppose it's my truth and you can't have it sticks tongue out i think we were we were talking about the whole my truth thing at that point yeah only ever seems to be rolled out as a way of being like okay so this isn't true but yeah no one ever says it's my truth for anything that's actually true yeah because why would you make any sense it's not my truth yeah like it's not my truth that the sun is really hot like it just is release the sterling chat oh release the sterling cut oh no happy year three of efab gang keep it toxic also hi mootl hi mootl indeed mootl actually isn't around for this one yeah i know horrifying he was in the beginning of it i think he went to sleep i like rags but his video is almost literally a rerun of efab 133 i don't think you said anything that wasn't said in the video i wouldn't go out far true and there was a couple of sections i liked in your video that i don't remember us talking about so yeah i would say so um hey i mean it's how long has it been since then like a while yeah i don't know and that is if there will definitely be videos that i cover that we have covered on efab but they will be like i believe my orc video is um definitely distinctly different mm-hmm how many we got left off just one hope you remember this mission free this is like one of the best ones i do remember that one one was a lot of fun i want a hard mode i think my true thing subjective truth like the sun feels hot you know you would think that but that's not how people use it never how they fucking use it they use it whenever you can falsify something they've said and they're like don't do that yeah what's my true i feel this well i think it's true it's true to me which it's true to me when applied to a thing that's wrong is just i was not correct you have pretty much still find a way to do my best to believe it's true or to act as if it's true um i've been watching you guys since i found more this channel a few months ago and you guys have been so much fun to watch i spent a long time or a lot of time while working and listening to your streams and laughing at all the bad takes and terrible arguments here's to another three years aww thank you so much hope you're having thank you very much yeah that's the thing i would say like this applies to every channel ever but like if you enjoy what you hear when you first join us like you got three years of stuff by the way it's all there how exciting yeah on objective audio the youtube premiere audio is too damn loud it is so much louder than the actual videos of audio yeah yeah 100 yep but a problem since forever but they just will not fix it i don't know how i don't think it's broken how could it have been a problem for this long it's insane like wait that's the they they must not even recognize that it is a problem do you think it's one of those ones where they've got like uh what do they call it spaghetti development where you've got so much history of coding that they can't actually access it without fucking something else up like they change it and then it like fuck something they're like oh shit because like it's such a habit nobody at youtube has tested that thing and said yes this is the perfect volume it's like no it is bizarre how this is so obviously an issue exists for that long it's so absurd you you knock it down to like the first notch and it's still like easily hearable you're like yep that's that's that every time you have to put it all the way back up when the video comes on it's like you gotta stop this it's it's wrong that's what it is and there's no way because i've not heard anybody say that they appreciate the fucking volume on that thing give us multiple music choices that's another thing you think they would have had like several tracks instead of just the one that's not that's not as much of a problem or anything since in two minutes but still thank you for the hard work no pro blame oh you massives have been the most consistently entertaining media i've watched over the past three years and i've had a lot of fun she is high rags high praise there's a lot of rags that was really high praise hello to you thank you very much i hope we continue to entertain that's good because we always talk about consistency and how important it is so being told we're consistently entertaining that's like two different levels amazing thank you for amazing content helping me understand media criticism criticism better how would you rank buffy and angel seasons from worst to best also high rags hi there all right it'll be easier to split them into the two shows so for buffy where season is one then probably two then four and seven again a little close to each other and then four and seven again obviously but depending on how i would split those up because i'm not 100% sure why does this have to be timed i don't know where all the fucking red coins are um then season we're left at that point it's just five and six right yes in that case five then six six is a fucking beast and then angel you know worst is season four that's easy then probably season one then oh yeah season two and three are pretty close they're both they are pretty awesome yeah that's hard to think of right now we've probably done this before um but i'm gonna go ahead and meet again oh what is that what is that noise i don't even know what that is i think it's people doing work like drilling and stuff oh my goodness oh fringy do you have are you like uh the clampets do you have um bubble and crude that you have struck on your property and so they are drilling all the oil so that you could become a millionaire and live in Beverly Hills apparently not right well i could live in no but no wow Beverly Hills oh my god it's crazy i knew right is it i know but other people people want to live that aren't i yeah that they do so i can't get up there hmm what would you have me do a game what do you have me do um but yeah angel season five then is the best it just stands above it sits on its little throne and it says hello to all the other seasons considers them cute how adorable you are to believe it comes close to my grandeur well yeah it's pretty much it one day i'll know and whoever else goes on this amazing magical tour through the buffyverse yes maybe this door opens now hey it does oh no way i need the this door to open oh it's not even okay i need two more red coins in two minutes hmm terrifying concept oh hey i wonder if there's any up here um boop boop fuck marry kill if i have 50 150 hmm i think we should kill 50 because you should let the past die kill it if you have to um oh 100 we gotta keep though i think we gotta marry 100 right yeah i think we got to marry 100 not i'd be fine fucking 150 oh there you go uh i literally do say that the sunshine is miserable and i love heavy rain and wind i wouldn't expect many people to agree with me though i remember what we were talking about that i like it as long as it ends like if it's a couple like if it's a if it's a rainy day or two i'm down with it you know i i i i enjoy a good proper inside day where you can hear the rain maybe a little bit of thunder and you're just inside and you know you're sort of like like easy mode trapped but um if it goes on longer than that like okay we've gone we've gone on long enough yeah okay as much as sun can go on for way too long it's limits are much less than if they were constant rain you know that's what that's what's happened in here we got a bit of a dry spell going on uh some of the lakes are getting pretty uh pretty low peeing them which is always kind of nifty to see um when the water goes down really far on some of the lakes around here and you you see what was underneath you see the little what one time they had to do because i live um around a bunch of little lakes and they had to drain they decided they i guess the city spent a crap load of money to do this big reconstruction project on improving the draining and stuff of all these lakes and making sure that they would flow as they should and like all the pipes were working things of that nature um so they drained a couple at a time they completely drained these lakes and i don't know it may be the further first time ever they've been drained fully and i was i was a kid at the time they were drained for a while weeks and weeks and um you would see how deep they were and what the little hills and ridges were underneath the lakes and then like tall grass would start to grow and you could you could go down in there and you could like get kind of like lost in the tall grass that would grow along the bottom of these uh now empty lakes which were these huge kind of rock and mud pits and i just as one of my my fond childhood memories was me and my friends that i would go bike riding stuff with um we would go into these lakes and just sort of see all the cool stuff uh that people would throw in there and and we'd find like old wallets and bicycles and knickknacks and doodads and stuff uh no nobodies nobody's a nice neighborhood um it has been for some time but uh it was really kind of cool uh to just sort of see all the stuff that goes down at the bottom beautiful um i live in arizona and we regularly complain about the sunny days 120 fahrenheit will do that but at least it's a dry heat also high rags hi a lot of people say that jokingly but it does make a it makes it a lot more bearable dry heats really do make it more bearable um yeah i mean nobody likes the extremes and we all wish we could just have a little weather controller that can give us whatever we want maybe one day i'm not gonna like crack that technology but then again that was that was cloudy with a chance of eballs he tried to control the weather and look what happened and look what happened we should watch those movies i remember enjoy especially the first one i think that one's pretty pretty darn good who's the um the voice actor for the main character and those i don't know let me check i assume it's somebody i know oh yeah it's bill hater ah i was actually thinking it might be him but i was like i don't know if he was famous enough at that point neil patrick harris is steve james conne steen samberg pal roker the folly of man it was a stacked cost all right back to six again and of course and of course mr t oh yes it was it was terry cruising as well i don't think so you might no i don't i don't think so i think that was mr t maybe yeah maybe that was the second one do you think they replaced there's no way they replace mr t who is the the black cop was i mr t yeah oh okay yeah i think i might be mixing them um rags no it was that was lauren's fishburnt oh terry cruise was in the second one he was earl devor up i don't remember who that is yeah me neither uh let me let me to earl oh that is the name of the cop yeah they did he was so he went from being mr t to terry cruise wow okay that is weird i assumed i assumed that they didn't that they wouldn't do that but i guess they did wow i can't believe they're replacing black actors yeah just the world we're in man the world we're in i've completely forgotten how i got up again where is salvation if rags is both a bottom and a film critic does that make him a pothole if what now if you're a you're a film critic and a bottom does that make you a plot hole oh look at you go congratulations you wonderful massives high rags and more keep doing the dawn's work fellas hello we shall do it we shall indeed did you guys ever get the chance to play the halo infinite tech preview last month i thought it was a lot of fun and i'm super hyped for the launch in december i did not get to play it but i'm glad that you have good things to say about it because halo multiplayer is definitely something that i really want to be good yeah congrats on 150 which is easier to salvage which is easier to salvage the mc or star wars when we'd be keeping phase four on the sequels cannon also high rags hi star wars star wars is easier to do i feel like when it comes to star wars you could get away from star wars and star wars easier than you can get away from the mcu and to be fair you could easily fix them both to a degree in terms of the whole leg it was all a dream that would it's funny i that would legitimately be like i would i would make the sequel trilogy some kind of like elseworld's fever dream thing and i would find some way to get luke as some kind of a like i don't know like it just something like i would start out my career with my name attached to star wars i know it's a it's ambitious but i want i would want to be the guy who saved star wars certainly seen as that but actually i would actually do it i'm not of this i'm not any of this john favreau horseshit i would actually do it would you just outright decanonize the sequels yes yeah that's the problem though i don't think they're allowed to like that there's no capacity for anybody to be able to do that because the people in charge wouldn't let them but yeah it would it would typically be a vision given to luke by some evil force to put him off track but he's like no i would never do that and then you sort of tell your your own story it'd be great um also hi rex hi there buck mary kill movie bob boogie twenty two nine eighty eight and jim sterling we're killing sterling um is that all obvious it's like i don't know i think i would marry oh fuck me yeah um okay let's see okay who would i kill i let's let's let's let's you gotta fuck one of them right oh my god let's see all right well let's let's do maybe mary right let's do mary first i think boogie married to and i think i'm going with boogie i think he's got the most he does have a nice house i guess and he doesn't live that far away from me so i would still like he lives in my state he lives a couple hours away from you could probably um like talk to him about games and stuff you know that bad yeah like you could probably have some like approaching regular conversations with boogie on the regular um and he wouldn't care about you having a hooker that's for sure yeah let me see um which is weird because that's illegal in arkansas uh let's uh yeah i'm mary and boogie i'm gonna go with mary boogie okay i get to stay closest to my family remain in the state looks like he has at least physically speaking his life together um in terms of a home and a place i don't know what his financials are like but i i'm gonna go with boogie mary and boogie plus he probably legitimately has a lot of cool shit in his house in terms of game stuff yeah i mean just cool knickknacks and doodads like legitimately probably has a lot of cool stuff in there and look you can try and make it work if it doesn't work then you know that's just that isn't it um so is it boogie in jail right now i don't think so is he i don't think he's in jail if he goes to jail it'll probably be like two years from now before the whole thing is sorted out and it probably won't be for too long it's it's not my concern plus i don't know how much longer he's got left from what i've heard the same for the both of them too any of the any of these three could drop dead tomorrow from a heart true um from what i've heard from boogie the maximum he would get would be six years but that's very unlikely because of yeah like his criminal record being clean um yeah and maybe the circumstances of it and i don't know from what i've heard where we should expect one year or a big fine uh that's what i've heard i i'm not a lawyer i don't know so i guess we're moving on to the next one and now there's only two options left here's here's what i'm gonna do what i kill all right you're gonna fuck jim i'm gonna fuck yes i'm gonna fuck jim and i'm gonna marry or i'm gonna kill bob and here's my reasoning okay bob is disgusting right jim sterling is also extremely disgusting but younger so that at least at least his big fucking rotund it's fucking ugliness right it will be a bit more bearable i feel okay you know it won't be as wrinkly it won't be like a fucking elephant nut sack and i'm trying to you know um and so i think it would be a i'm not gonna say more pleasant less unpleasant right um so that's my thought process because like i could i don't know like i think i might be able to imagine having sex with jim as unpleasant as it is i cannot even fathom the idea of having human intercourse with movie bob i can't even imagine it um so and plus movie bob is like evil right right i think we i i these sets of foul foul things um and i just don't uh uh yeah if i had if i had to pick that's my that's my fuck mary kill on that and i think i've thought about it far longer than i needed to that you know for a two dollar super chat i feel like they got their ad set i hope so good stuff i i mean yeah i pretty much agree with the whole thing i i enjoy the reasoning i i don't enjoy the the idea but you know what sometimes you have to make some sacrifices to answer hypotheticals yeah yeah uh just got done with my first playthrough of halo combat evolved fantastic game but the mcc is kind of wonky the library is the worst level by the way is that controversial or no no it's not controversial but i guess the controversial thing is that i don't think it's a bad level at all i quite enjoy it i think it's just simple mindless combat you know which which i don't mind at all um you never have to worry about where to go you never have to worry about killing all the enemies and finding out oh which hallway did i forget to walk down or something like that um very simple very straightforward and that's uh that's why i like it what's uh what are the what's the most common complaint about it i know that it's repetitive or very very repetitive and bland i guess um because it's essentially just a a a dull in terms of its aesthetic you just have to fight the flood for a long time as you progress through a bunch of um big gray hallways right but i like fighting the flood i enjoy doing that so there you go there you go assault on the control room is better high racks hi um no i really didn't like that at all i didn't i don't like the the tanks the way that they control in the first halo they don't shoot where you aim um the sections are generally pretty slow and i just don't really like the vehicle segments especially when you have a tank you just feel like there's nothing challenging to it and i just don't find it engaging um so happy anniversary thanks for all the long over the years if i may inquire what is everyone here's favorite fictional and non-fictional animals my favorite is mice and dragons anyway gotta sleep catch you later i mean dragons are gonna be scoring pretty high in terms of favorite fictional animals dragons are up there some dragons are really cool a lot of them are just edgy and lame yeah but um huh let me see favorite fictional animals i do like griffons griffons are neat yeah let me see favorite fiction though we're talking about non-sapient creatures um uh i would assume though i would i might which might actually discount a whole lot of dragons true but i imagine that yeah they probably meant to include that since they chose dragons oh yeah it's true um minotaur's can be pretty cool uh the especially the whole labyrinth aspect yeah yeah because they're in the latin whether you're going with the classical one where they're in the labyrinth you know coming to get you or just in general minotaur's out and about um favorite fantasy creatures honestly that one's kind of that that would be something that i have to really start thinking about um because oh cerberus cerberus is a really nifty one and yeah cerberus and i like werewolves i like werewolves a lot i think they're super cool um there's a lot of stuff you could do with werewolves i'm assuming the balrog counts right yeah yeah the balrog yeah i think i have to and i'm sorry more he's a topscorer he's up there i like the sphinx with the riddle you know the riddle sort of thing pretty nifty cat girls i mean i can see why people would choose them again no they're too they're too human-like i think for the what it's some of the minotaur yeah yes i don't know like yeah i suppose but just trying to think of a few quick just thinking of some quick ones maybe um oh the going through maybe like enemies and mmo's and stuff like that kind of kind of think are cool nagas can be pretty cool like the half snakes sort of guys they can be pretty nifty the yeah that was pretty cool trying to think of some others that just just sort of come because there's there's a bajillion and it's like trying to go sift through all of them in your head and then pull pull out the ones that you think are really kind of nifty and cool um some some are just like kind of lame a lot of them are lame i don't want to go with them like i don't care about mermaids or like phoenix i just don't really care about them uh don't like phoenixes nah i just sense like like unicorns i'm like yes and they're fine i guess i don't know phoenix like i i get unicorns like kind of like phoenix like fire bird that rebirths itself so it's kind of cool hopefully that was a decent enough answer i guess for starters it's just it's hard to think about all of the stuff and then pull it well the other half was favorite uh non-fictional animal too but i think we've answered this before i can't remember what our answers were do you remember rance what your favorite animal is oh doggos mine's uh i can't remember what i said last time i know sharks are up there i think they're pretty badass they got said penguins it's gonna be a whole selection though you'd like me penguin could literally just depend on what i'm seeing in the day because you know what baby seals are pretty top tier the isle of man flag favorite one yes there was probably a whole bunch of like dnd and pathfinder enemies that are really super cool but uh i haven't really yeah worgs are up there worgs and i guess that we can count worgs we can count nulls worgs and nulls they are they're often kind of combined a lot of time or different mixes of them both five that's that's true fantasy creatures of platypus yeah that's fair enough oh i see you red coin happy efap aversory y'all high rags thank you and hello uh kickj done and good day to all y'all have saved my mind from the clutches of boredom even sleep and on many work trips special thanks to mola for the unbridled rage that introduced me to the brood oh i'm really glad that you like them i'm glad the the the unbridled series can funnel people into our mischievous events on over on efap um brief app 50 i gave a dollar for 100 i gave two anticipate four dollars oh because you're doubling it every time i see yeah well they gave three so i'm assuming they're saying anticipate four for 200 oh i i okay i thought i anticipate was just anticipate and then it says the four dollars yes okay all right i because i thought that it almost be a subversion although um which is well thank you very much thank you very much yeah tell me a movie about a swimmer's last race any advice for what emotions i should try to capture on my 17th final year as a swimmer thanks lads hey um gosh i have no idea i assume it would be like um any person who's leaving a a long career um where they would just be kind of like so have you ever have you ever been in a position where you're like you're leaving a you're moving and you're leaving a house or a home that you have a lot of memories in and you're going to just a new place and maybe there's a a connection there with how um how you feel leaving behind a very familiar sort of setting um like i after i left my first department it wasn't much but it was my first one and it was kind of i got a little emotional i think you know it's my first place and a lot of memories and i really kind of like the space i just felt like i finally was ready to move on and maybe that's a similar kind of vibe you should go for like you're ready to go off and do new things but you really want to appreciate the stuff that you're not even necessarily leaving behind um because you can always i guess you could swim casually instead of professionally but there's always going to be something that you know you enjoy and you respect about the you know the journey it took you to get where you are but i'm not really not sure that's not quite my chosen element of it would be a pride for what they've accomplished over the lengthy career whatever it is as much as it's it's saying goodbye it's uh you also got the whole it's saying hello to a new era but that's a complicated one and it could very much be to do more so with whoever this character is and how they feel about it lots of different possibilities yeah there's probably a lot of stories as well that try and cover that sort of thing like the um the the person in their prime sort of ending their time with that thing um not in there like they were in their prime and then they hadn't come to an end um but of course i hope that goes well sounds interesting good luck sir absolutely good luck to you indeed and um and yeah and this person says uh i'm a fan of hydras it's like yeah i can see why hydras can be pretty cool yeah that's true those are kind of nifty in the original story the hydra as we all know it um whenever you killed what you chopped off one of its heads others would grow and take its place i think it was first i can't i can't quite remember he fires a special fires an arrow at one of them as it was breathing fire and it melted as it like went inside of the hydra and so it killed it that way nice it turned into like molten metal man it's supposed to be the hydra like it's a little hot now couldn't you just cut off my head show to you don't be a dick about it yeah everyone else cuts off my head yeah i like which you know when you're in fantasy that can be a thing yeah it's very nice wake up meme so you can explain corking oh corking yeah no when they've mentioned the metals blowhole so much and now there's a thing about corking oh strange things be happening on his stream i'd assume holy cow twitter has paid subs superfollowers really really what does that mean what do they get access to maybe you get to side with tweets maybe i fucking the idea of exclusive tweets it's just funny to me exclusive tweets only the real premium tweets all right imagine you you knew that that was what you've sort of sorted out and now you're like man i gotta make some fucking great tweets so the people who pay yeah these things better be fire oh man that new fucking marvel thing it's not very good is it like that was a good fucking tweet yeah i'm glad i'm paying for your incredible insight that was worth whatever it costs to be a super follower yeah because like the idea that you can it's a form of donation service right it's like that's one thing but i mean it sounds like you buy something for this on a monthly basis yeah knob goblin that's another good fantasy creature yeah i'll be interesting to see how that all turns out thank you for the entertainment during the doldrums of work this will probably be applicable during the uh super chat catch up kick j high rags hello j has been kicked um did something happen to jc as his channel i remember there being more videos on there back when i first found him i don't know i don't know if there's less now than there was um i think he's got a few patreon exclusive ones might be that he's moved a couple to that i don't know chris van oland's tenet is criticized because you cannot hear the actors over the sound effects and score that is objectively bad i mean i would certainly make the fucking argument that you have context in your movie that is impossible for a human being to fucking collect like nice i feel like you failed miserably at that point and by the way how often do you hear people complain about being unable to hear something in a movie be a dialogue or whatever else is like and this happens in david david tenet tenet from nolan it's like how and do you guys remember you had audio problems with the dark knight rises with um a bane you have to like re-record all of it it's just like i don't know what the fuck's happening with nolan and audio but it is bizarre and uh it's just amazing to me because like even the shittiest of movies they don't usually have that problem the weird one there we go i made it after all this time brags i did it i found all eight coins that's great now where does this start oh it's on a fucking cloud okay what the fuck i didn't agree today this is outside of the contract oh my god that is so dangerous should probably have the hover nozzle for this but i don't know where the hover nozzle is oh boy oh it's over there beautiful um happy 150th i love all the work you do through efap and everyone's own work i've discovered my love for writing and media analysis you've all inspired me to start creating my own oh it's really great to hear okay goes well and you enjoy it and make some wonderful things and become a famous director and then you make lots and lots of money and you buy all of our plushies audio is nolan's least favorite fantasy creature all right i'm riding on it on this daffodil creature that was safer than i thought it would be did it um only users with at least 10 000 followers will be eligible for super followers feature users must have tweeted more than 25 times in the past 30 days okay that sounds really strange but okay i don't even know that i qualify for that by the way i don't tweet that much i definitely don't man i get just monetizing tweets feel so strange but you know what you uh you do what you have to do old twitter good day to you all high rags have some scritches forever while i offer a firm left-handed springy is any of your goo ready for purchase no no it's not hmm still working on it well you know just drum up excitement that way right um oh this was a part one part two so that's kind of a weird part i don't see how that is part one part wait wait oh you all inspired me to start creating my own content making youtube videos writing my own book slash stories and game development and with everyone's advice and everyone's videos i feel like i can create content i will truly and forever be proud of never forget how much of an impact you've all had on my life awww that was really nice yeah i'm glad we had an impact on your life and it was positive yeah i hope everything goes well i hope you make all kinds of games and books and youtube videos go nuts have fun thank you so much three years is far too short a time to spend among such excellent and admirable tisms i don't know half of you as well as i should like and i like less than half of you as well as you deserve here's to another three that's a good reference do you guys remember when that's from i don't fellowship of the ring one more time oh oh i was about to i almost kind of forgot yeah it's bilbo's birthday speech he says it is birthday um finished watching raised by wolves it's awful raised by wolves do we know what this is HBO show i think is it new or um not like like new isn't in the last year or so i think i don't know anything about it though hmm no i've never had any problems with doona do meternals platforming assume that yeah i don't know how yeah you you're not gonna have a problem with it it'll just be dull and boring and you just want it to be over so you can get to the gameplay part that gets the get those issues seems like a bizarre design decision to have so much fucking worthless platforming in between the combat like i didn't know this was a thing people really asked for um twitter on wednesday launched super follows a feature that allows select users to charge others for access to subscriber only content when they say content so it is tweets tweets i guess all right be interested to see how well that goes but imagine it's like oh have you seen this fucking bowl of tweet you're gonna have to buy it though you're like uh i'll be right i'm good and then like it goes viral but they then so they can't take advantage of like people having you know reddit and so like the public in general and so they're like oh no i'm going to have to do it again but make this one for free and then all the subscribers will be upset we're not getting exclusive tweet content it's a weird one jim is the male version of a female comedian hey there are some good female comedians out there okay jim's not funny though well i guess they're saying that female comedians aren't funny but that's yeah but if he was the male version of a female comedian he'd be funny i mean not if the if you're trying to like there are unfunny male comedians all right yeah i just i think that's what the joke was trying to get across i'm i'm choosing to defend that there are plenty of fanny wammons out there fanny fanny wammons fuck name six um dawn french jennifer saunders i'm running out no i got to those two first yes i do because i fucking watched the shit out of that when i was younger i was like yay women are funny too and then i also think gritty is pretty funny oh i thought we were doing like stand-up related people my timing are um okay they're still going on about fucking terriers show shit get it a rax you'd love it if you um if you pretend you like it maybe something you want like on every level i don't understand how can you be so bad at media criticism so anyway well moving on we will we will we will we talking about we're talking about uh female comedians are funny oh yeah i named two when it comes to stand-up it's a lot if it was tougher you feel like corny booth hat because she carburet faulty towers like that's that's what the lot it says yeah i mean she's got to be a funny funny last credential is funny woman doom 2016 platforming was so bad eternal made it better no so doom 26 platforming was great because it was extremely simple and there was very little of it right eternal adds all these stupid mechanics that do nothing except make you roll your eyes and it wastes your time just so you can get to the next fight where you can actually play the game it does absolutely nothing to make the game better it doesn't add to the experience in any possible fucking way doom 2016 was like yeah you're here to shoot zombies and aliens from arts all right so we're not gonna fuck around with this wall climbing twist around jumping any of that nonsense all right you just if you have to do in 2016 if you had to do some platforming was just just jump to that thing oh it's so i i just it's just it's clunky so instead it's fluid is like no it's not isn't fluid at all it's just clunky it feels like they added it in later it's just oh you got you have you guys have fucking horrific standards for platforming if you think doom eternal had good platforming i haven't played it should be reserved for the likes of maria you know maria's got good platforming i feel like doom eternal is just fine that's a shooter i'm not a big fan of first person platforming you know unless the whole game is built around it like mirror's edge i just feel like that game something else no i'm platform would be fair i played the first doom it was neat i liked it a bunch that's my full input i haven't played i think quake has i think i think quake has spoiled me when it comes to uh like the old school shooter like it's tough for me to play and enjoy doom after playing like quake and stuff oh i meant it's never really doomed 2016 but i also like the original doom quite a bit no yeah but 2016 when i really really like i haven't finished eternal yet maybe maybe i'll get around to doing it i prefer quake quakes my baby but um at the same time i wouldn't know what i would say in terms of comparing quake and doom you know mm-hmm it's a tough one rags do your owners leave breath of the wild on for you whenever they go out you're like a suppository of rlm oh it's not breath well it's best of the worst you're a suppository of rlm's way i i um i watch them a lot and so i do soak up some of them um yeah a lot of what they said i probably listened to them more than anyone else they got a big backlog of content and it's very long you could it's just like hour long videos that you can put on and just listen to while i'm just laying down or resting or eating something or making dinner so i soak it up soak up a lot of it and it will naturally come out here in there but yeah i've learned a lot from them and i really really really really really like it ringy can you see i'm doing like the best thing in marison trying to be able to do is the sport the sport this is i do see that you're doing the thing that ever ever oh loud noises yeah no it's it's it's it's a fun it's a fun thing to do in that game just the movement mechanics really it wasn't until odyssey that they got up to this level and then some rags you taught me to open my door to criticism and to leave it open while i poo no no it's not what i taught you death of the author jay taught me about koum fringy to say no and to the gimpy and mohler to be long no the gimpy but be long we'll go to the gimpy plant oh the gimpy gimpy plant that makes you really hate living or something i thought they were like referring to metal as the gimpy or something i was like damn the gim i think no to the gimpy are meant to be read as part of the same sentence ah or the same statement that makes sense uh happy third anniversary guys was always wondering is there any deleted scenes you wish were in the final product easy tlj they had a scene of luke mourning on solo and he fucking cut it i don't to this day it baffles me baffles the mind what are you doing yeah holy just reminded me of that it's like what if what kind why would you make that decision i'm sorry why because we because i'll tell you why it's because we already know that luke would mourn his death so we don't need to see it oh yeah that's a top level fucking that's like when veda says i want to see your face and return to the jedi and the second takes the helm off just cuts it's like yeah we know we know what happens next come on that is pretty funny to me right like that um that well i mean we knew that luke would fight vader and blue so we don't need to see it we can just skip to him hanging off of the cloud city we don't need to see all that in between stuff it's not like that's what we're there for uh just to reply to so i've been watching uh when we do more youtube videos i've been watching you for four years well first off thanks for watching me for four years thank you so much um but i released a video just about a week ago uh and i will have more to come and i was going to put dog bite stuff out but with the stream today that's what i'm doing instead but that's all right um so there you go check that but also what i was going to say is if i was going to remake return of the jedi right i think it might be interesting for at the end where luke is dragging an injured a mortally wounded vader to a shuttle to try and you know get him out i think it would be interesting if they do the the angle to where when he takes off the helmet and everything you don't see vader's face you see luke in the back of vader's mask but you don't actually see vader's face it's just sort of left sort of to the imagination and luke you can see his expression uh and you can hear vader's voice perhaps that might be interesting that would be something i i mean plan to say that i do like that it feels to me almost like i don't imagine Darth Vader is having a face kind of in the same way that i don't imagine master chief is having a face yeah i don't know that i want to ever see what he looks like that's not that's not something i'm interested in i i like having people with no face sometimes i i like what i do like what lucas did with that and the i i like it but i think if i was going to do it i would do the where you don't actually you don't ever actually see vader's face i like seeing him smile yeah and you i do like i well that's the thing there's there's things to get out of both yeah i like that too that's the tough part about when you when you're working really well that was the story choosing between the different options that you have that are great yeah yeah and uh obviously the actor did a good job and some some of the best shit in return of the Jedi is going to be between those two yep efap one remake do it my god they will remake efap one at some point they're gonna cast a whole bunch of new characters rags will be a woman gonna happen they'll they'll dial down the the language disney will have bought the ip at that point oh another thing someone's bringing up a good point you don't see vader's actual face but when you see him as a force ghost you do see his face and it's like a normal person's face so it almost implies that whatever he was underneath there wasn't even like almost recognizably human but his his force version is him as he sort of really was right um so that would be interesting it almost plays off the oh that's what he looks like oh man i wonder what was really underneath that mask if you know that they're willing to show me this face is his real face but not his fucked up face sure i i still think it is powerful to see the super healthy normal jedi man after having seen him the end of his rope or the yeah yeah the haggard sort of scarred burned face as well and um i think that was the thing right he has eyebrows in the original and then the updated remastered one he took them away because they would have been burnt off like sing yeah yeah make sense i'm okay with that change make sense to me which just makes me interested in the whole like is you clearly like you wouldn't do that unless you cared about cause and effect to a degree right it's just like so what about all the other stuff george yeah so yeah what about all the stuff that the but it this is actually a this is actually a form of CGI-ing the hair off someone's face that i approve of mm-hmm yeah i agree they should have let superman keep his fucking moustache it would have been great you can argue that he just wanted to let it grow out do you think that would have caused an argument among superman fans as to whether or not he should be able to grow hair i don't see why he wouldn't be able to grow hair what what do you think the argument would be against it like it could break through the skin or well the thing is i'm pretty sure he grows hair in like one of the animated ones head oh no i meant like beard hair but um i don't know how to cut his hair he would just be he has super krypton hair and even when this laser eyes because it's strong here how can he hit himself does he have to shoot all the way around the earth and have it hit the shoots into like a special like an mirror oh our mirrors do do mirrors stop his laser oh i guess special mirror well if he if he doesn't like laser yeah exactly gonna balance it you know not strong enough that it hurts the mirror but strong enough that it can get rid of his hair okay meme clarified this in one of your videos more i am i'm not making the argument i'm saying there's probably gonna be people out there who'd be like what clock shouldn't be able to grow a mustache it's not the clock i know and i would be amused by that oh man you can't get more water from the little watery full thing here bad game um i would i wouldn't have mind seen superman with just like a a really good looking like beard a nice short well trimmed beard i think that would look it really looks good on the actor like you look great mission impossible fallout they'll save it when it goes dark again oh yeah dark yeah the dark beard the dark beard schluperman won't people just screenshot the paid content i mean to a degree you can say that's about all of it though like i know it'll be easier but like you can copy and links to private links and it just seems like it seems like just mega easy with this you know yeah like you could literally start an account that put reposts everything that person post in private it's totally gonna happen and then they'll be like stop that like no this is my calling hi fringy what's the koala smell like i'm not sure actually um they smell like mammals mm wow like the wild mammal i imagine it smells the same as like a possum smell all right hi rags i'm giving you a plushie to my little sister long man will that's great long man will watch over my desk slash gaming station that i shall adorbs that's what that is um i think my favorite eternal stage is arc complex i don't know that one i'm afraid i can't i can't remember them by name i'd have to see them again honestly i will finish it eventually but there's just other games i'd rather finish that i think are just better uh getting into making i need to finish it's probably mankind divided is honestly it's just been on my list for so long and i i like human revolution so much that i i just need to do mankind divided you absolutely should and if you need further convincing i made a video like a year ago no that was well over a year ago i'm an idiot i was about to say no you didn't no that was more than three that was uh that was four years ago actually that was a year after it came out god damn how damn it's blown i remember that is that's a that's a video that's frustrating something to me a bit because it's like i do think that the video makes a lot of good points but i make a pretty stupid good point early on that like i know that certain people have fixated on which makes sense because it was a stupid point it's like god damn it like if i could just go back and edit out that point because i don't even agree with it anymore um what was it it was along the lines of i'm not sure why you would set this game in prog like that just feels weird to me as a choice but i tried to justify it and now i'm just like no that was that was actually unique that was um that was an interesting place to set it and um prog is geopolitically significant enough that it makes sense that there would be things going on there that matter especially the rest of europe so yeah that was a long-winded way of me saying that you should watch that video but feel free to discount that point because i don't even agree i don't agree with it i'm getting into making doom levels with doom builder don't even know that was a thing that's sweet is that for the original game or is that for like 2016 and stuff i don't know i think the new games have one of those like snap mode thingies or whatever i don't know what they're called proper but i think they have something where it's like a doom creator um these two characters are a couple in the buffy comics cringe yeah super cringe it is cringe i hate it that's it's not canon no mind no uh seen sk's take that luke was assassinated return of the jedi i've seen his well he he fucking i don't care likes terriers i don't care what he has my god rags sweet because we we finished terriers now so oh you did how did you do it man so so basically yeah the the gist of that is it's terrible um it's it's really bad i don't like to roll this out very much it's one of the worst shows i've seen i wouldn't recommend it to anybody nor would i i don't i don't one of the worst i would recommend you know i can talk about because i like barry i'd recommend no i don't like barry i would recommend barry i think a lot of people get something out of that show i think a lot of people would enjoy it i think it's a show that has good scenes in it some great scenes in that and potential i don't see that in terriers now i've seen especially if you put me and fringy together we have seen a lot of shows we're talking an unholy amount potentially and if there were percentiles this one's easily in the bottom 20 percent um yeah i would uh i would much sooner recommend if you want a procedural just watch lauren auto you'll get a lot more out of lauren auto like from the procedural aspects terriers if i break down when i do not want to see that again no no i'm not watching it again no um i think i don't think we've talked about it on like any streams have we the the mexico thing i talked about it on most so mexico so this so for those who don't know like terriers is a procedural show so it's about two private detectives who are unlicensed and admit this under oath while being involved in a very significant investigate as part of a fucking murder case yeah um so in any case so so just keep that in mind that this is a procedural show like law and just all of that is a relevant part of it so this one of the main characters called brit and he he has a friend who's like used to do crimes and stuff and they decide they they get abducted and get taken across the border at set sandeco so they go to tiwana um and they are tasked with helping this guy's old criminal buddies basically steal some evidence from lock up so all the crimes that are committed in this episode so first of all uh they get themselves sent to prisons they got that crime to deal with but then they assault a police officer break out a prison steal evidence from lock up to give to like a cartel and then he illegally flees back into america like okay so they've got all his details they know he did all these things they've got all of his details they know who he is they know where he lives um it's over so first of all you can't just get into the boot of somebody's car and just get into america from mexico like they're gonna check the boot of the car it doesn't matter that there's a cop with you they're going to check the car and even if we assume that being with a detective is going to help you get back into america even though police and border patrol are like totally different entities soon as you get back to america you're just going to be extradited to mexico for all the crimes you committed that yeah if you've actually impeded the case against the cartel they're going to be fucking pissed at you and assaulting a police officer yeah breaking out of their prison friends yeah breaking out the amount of crime there is a clear evidence trail for all of this by the way so we have multiple issues throughout the show the number one thing is that the protagonists are just really bad people they are not ethically dubious they do a lot of evil things and they do it just to make money that's their goal can we talk about their interest the one of the best examples in the whole fucking show of that oh go for it so so oh my god so bad so like brit is a guy just doing his thing and his girlfriend oh man you know what a great girlfriend i can't wait to just settle down with you maybe get it maybe you know i'll get a dog maybe we can have a kid maybe get married you know and this girl she seems she seems okay seems fine pretty normal as a character so she's doing some uni stuff some college stuff and um you know after a night of going out doing some drinking she she wakes up the following morning and oh no she's slept with the professor oh yeah oh no that is that stands in stark opposition to the concept you love somebody no well you know she was drunk right that's probably the reason rags she was drunk she was drunk you expect maybe that the show is going to be like i made a huge fucking mistake i got drunk and i'm kind of i feel awful because we were just about to start our life that might be the drama but no she says you know i just wasn't ready to get married that's the reason well how well it was for you this means we're not getting married so well but it was even worse than that it was that you were not ready to have like get married and have kids therefore i cheated on you dude what are we doing oh my favorite part is this was this was not introduced i guess and you're about to mention the other the thing i'm actually getting to you know what it is yeah yeah go for it well so yeah so you'd be understandably angry about that you might even say you know what we're done we are done we're no longer together that's option one you know you could there's other options you might be like you know i want to find this guy and like what's what's the what's the hippie hap here did you know if you guys like falling in love or does he know that i exist like what was the idea so you know you might have and you mean maybe you have theories maybe you've seen it hanging out with different people and you're like maybe it's this guy maybe it's this this guy i don't know so brit gets uh i think he gets drunk right um because that's that's what good writers do and they need to make an excuse for character to do anything uh so he's drunk and he goes up to this guy the he knows the his girl's been hanging out with and he's like hey did you did you do the thing with my wife and then he's like huh and brit proceeds to beat this man almost to death um wrong dude just fyi and uh and it doesn't matter in any case but yeah it's just it's just good to know for the audience i suppose okay that sounds like a you can't even if it was the right guy you can't beat this shit out of somebody it's terrible there's so many tears it's like tier one of he did it and he did it knowingly and he hates me it's like you still can't beat him to death like okay but this guy didn't know as far as you know that you were involved is just doing his fucking human rights just being like hey girl i like you do you like me let's do stuff which is totally allowed even if they entangled with someone else you could say it's bad etiquette but i mean we're talking about love here it gets complicated then of course it's not even the guy who did it it's just a randy who's connected sure but like he's just like oh god and like this guy is beaten to fuck and of course he's pressing charges thank fuck the show managed to pull through on that and our wonderful main character is like oh man i'm probably gonna go to prison like a whole year as you should yeah a year a whole year you're lucky you are so lucky that you're only getting a year that's more than you that's less than you deserve he doesn't even have any remorse for the fact that he did it the show isn't aware that he's done anything it's like black widow they have no idea yeah um and just monster and his friend is like hey how about we just go to mexico like yeah like so so yeah the gist is right at the end he's driving him to prison that's like 25th hour except terrible instead of good um and it's like hey i could take you to prison for a year and then we'll get back out and get up back up to stuff or we could go to mexico again once you get to the border oh hey you're in trouble in mexico also you're in trouble in america oh and you're you're taking him to a different cut huh you're going to jail yep um so that so in my head because i hate these guys the canonical ending is they were so stupid that they went to mexico got arrested and got sent to jail for the rest of their lives and then Hank was all of the crimes they committed throughout the whole and they were definitely separated they're putting different prisons one of them is in america one of them has gone to mexico yeah and that's it they're in forever awful people terrible flooding complete disregard for law and order just out of disregard for how the law functions or how police operate it's awful yeah it's not misrepresenting a scene not for getting context both of which has totally not been done don't you worry about it we just finished the show i don't even i don't know how you could defend that i really don't know how you can defend that how can we talk about anything at that point that like we talked about that in the same way that we would talk about basically anything we're trying to analyze um yeah uh they could be bad people the show is totally unaware of them being bad people unfortunately i don't think they're good people um and then of course there's showings the level of plot holes in this fucking thing in relation to the law many many many plot holes like just like there are so much evidence that connects these two like all of these these crimes that they've committed and that they did mostly for money and for whatever reason it's just never followed through on like times when they would have been on camera and when if you ask the people who were in the building hey did you see these two people here it's like oh yeah no they were here they they said that they were like fucking phone security where the fuck they were it's just like throughout the whole show is the main character meant to be deplorable you'd hope so but no no no the most the show will do is be like oh man these guys hot of gold but they do some they do some dubious things and it's like no they're just fucking evil the tone of the show is that though their methods may be crude they are good people with good goals that's that's what the show is going forth but they're not even anti-heroes like i wouldn't i would consider them to be villains and all of the crimes that they commit all of it it's like well what is this for like what are we gonna what are we putting an end to what the the main overarching plot of the thing that they're trying to put a stop to is some property developers building an airport in ocean beach san diego like i don't know what i meant to do with that in terms of like considering that these guys killed the freaking Ted like he ran into a car and instead of taking him to the hospital they let him die even total bleeding it's like the worst the other guys they do some duplicitous things to try to build a parking lot like a freaking airport in ocean beach san diego this is the thing man you don't need to see you don't need to see the one episode to be like okay this is this is yeah and just be like done done after they tamper with evidence frame a man for murder who they don't know committed the crime fucking impersonated detective aid in a bat a wanted suspect oh man frame a man for murder when you don't actually know that he did it it was that one right it's like seriously it's just bottom tier tv um it's yeah and and i mean we just named the crimes they didn't commit would be shorter last yeah by the end of the season yeah but the big thing as well though is like even if you would have put all of that to one side which would be putting aside a lot what is it in this show that is particularly valuable when it comes to character writing i i'm not sure i don't i don't i don't know what it would be compared to like in Breaking Bad you can get some great stuff in terms of waltz and jesse and um and i can't i can't believe i'm spacing uh the villain i'm totally liking gus like and and uh and mike like you got all these great characters that are going on these really cool arcs and they're super interesting but i don't i don't feel that way about these characters at all there's nothing particularly interesting about them so it's like well what what is it that makes this show amazing i mean i'd be surprised that i like it ain't getting above three just to fucking struggle i'd best the three but i'm leaning towards the two um that woman yeah well i'd rather watch about them and that's fun and entertaining yeah and you at least get jacob yeah well yeah and and you occasionally get like a good scene in in batwoman very very very very very okay i like the two like one per season there was the one scene we liked in terriers with a character finally called a character out for being a piece of shit that was nice yeah all right that that was nice yeah we really got that the long time after he'd been after he stole that guy's wallet to use his uh credit card to frame like as though he was yeah when he was going to get married man they what a great guy out protagonist is they really make it hard to get invested in these people when they keep doing heinous shit steal a man's fucking cards when he's about to get married and charge a bunch of hookers to it it's like it's like it's not funny man that's what i mean it's like all for self-interest usually when you've got like people who are bad people like protagonists and grand theft order you try to give them like an element that makes them interesting or that there's something about them that's worthwhile well like nico and cj like loyal to their family that's that's an important one it's like that helps a long way especially when the villains are usually totally spot like treacherous snakes who will betray anybody including people who help them it's like that's the kind of stuff that makes it easier to root for them even though they're all bad people and of course the tone of those games is not hey these guys are good people like the tone is very much yeah these are bad people but in terrors it's like no it's not that at all it's nowhere near batwoman levels yes it is maybe they mean batwoman's better it's like well maybe oh well yeah that's this again batwoman is entertaining i mean the show is mainly about the law and it fucks all of that up batwoman jumps between all kinds of things yeah and like there are times about woman something to say as well about you know the world well yeah we've even appreciate sometimes batwoman will have like a thematic throughline an episode about something yeah like you not great most of the time but occasionally there's like something there something to draw out of the mire the bog i mean i'm kind of like batwoman is awful but like i mean so it's terrorist yeah it's entertaining yeah that is that tstwg rate is that that stall was gill or am i that star no way that rides on uh youtube no i don't think there's a mechanic for it they're on twitch it's not a mechanic it's all organic you yeah i mean like the letters moved around wrong or it's just i don't know i suppose that there's i can't think of anything else i can't talk about when it comes terrors are we happy to never have to think about it yeah um it was it was a rough watch uh yeah yeah i'm pretty sure if we were to rewatch it would get worse because you have to keep in mind everything that happens in future and past like how it all follows for the lore and stuff oh dude the um the radiation thing so oh the right yeah so like our characters find out that the bad guys might be trying to hide the fact that there's a high radiation levels to the point where no one would be around in this particular area they find us out because they are the ex-wife of the main character is an architect slash person familiar with with like these particular things she sees the paper by chance and she's like bruh this is like super bad it's like radiation these stuff it's like oh my god and so very lucky that she has that level of knowledge but absolutely well um he knows about it yeah and and so you're like okay and so they they get it out there it's like a payoff for the episode that they get that to be public and no one's allowed near the place anymore it's like huh i mean for you kind of just accepted that on good faith which like i guess they did all they needed to do to prove it and who we did it okay then they have this like twist where the main guy's sister notices that it's all bullshit she reads and she's like nah these levels are actually this and this is all this is all wrong and we were like what if you fellas can notice like what's wrong here with this something doesn't make sense yeah so first thought was like why would a random girl who's friend who's the sister of our protagonist know this better than the people would have had to have verified it for the fucking government why yeah people and then this field turns out there's no radiation there and so we were like wait a minute you didn't check you didn't send anybody with the proper equipment to another report you just found this report and were like it's good enough no one's allowed there anymore it's like what and then of course third if this is something that she could deduce based on the publicly available information how would she be the only person who noticed that like she notices that the chemicals do not produce this result that's just not how it works tell me she's the only person on earth who knows this i don't understand how they wouldn't have specialists to check the fucking thing and then why would she know more than them just their life is to check these things and no and that's like major for pushing everything forward again i mean the show is full of these like the big events that just don't make any sense it is the most important like it is the central arc of this season there's one thankfully season yeah remember when they stole the the bonds yeah remember how they spend the bonds and then confirm that the bonds are too hot to sell that was my favorite part we can't use we can't spend them wait no yeah we can oh wait we can't we can spend them wait no we can't it's like remember how they needed the protagonist needed a big loan and he just happens the fucking ceo needs a job from a pi it happens over here that he needs a loan like and then the dude kills himself while Hank is in the room and then forges a signature to get a loan what are we doing low like constant crazy levels of luck just outright holes and then two main characters that i find fucking deplorably annoying to watch yeah awful so there you go if anyone's curious about thoughts on areas would not recommend no i would not no i don't think that anybody's gonna get anything out of it um where are we do millen do do i think that came from ask a saying that luke was assassinated return of the Jedi which yeah i've not heard the argument for that um it's gonna be a tough one yeah i'm just i don't know yeah i'm not sure what that it's not really worth much like i don't i don't feel like there's the most important scene in like the whole series that like everybody just missed how luke wouldn't do this like that feels like a big ol nah i'm not saying that it's the case but maybe if i don't know people people who maybe try and brand themselves on the idea of having hot takes and i'm the one who discovered this and i'm the one who really showed the world what the truth is i don't know maybe if you're not good enough to justify that title you've given yourself it will i don't know it's weird to go for the scene that people like quintessentially reference as like luke skywalkers character defining scene is the one that assassinates him that is an interesting fucking journey to take but hey again not heard the argument but then again i've not heard the argument for a lot of things look at meme repositories latest tweet i can't do that i'm streaming right now is he talking about blow holes and corks is that what we're doing i recently rewatched all the transformers movies are there any year you think a good decent or at least not at a garbage i don't think bae is a bad director besides his humor and explosions isn't that mainly what he does i would say one is probably going to be the best one but i would have imagined that if we watched it it's not going to stand up well yeah it's probably the best but yeah as for bae i think he's a fine director in terms of you can you always get exactly what's going on it's just his storytelling is a bit you know yeah the priorities just do not align in terms of what i want versus what he's interested in telling is he fap denying i feel like that um oh i was just gonna say i think that every frame of painting video on michael bae is super interesting on this topic like what is it that michael bae actually does what's he good at what does he think good filmmaking is super interesting is he fap denying that there was a massive grave because the definition of massive is big and that's a fact you're denying that fact also high racks hello hello you long man see the newest what if seems like the least differently abled episode so far that's what people are saying i don't know doctor strange one they're saying that about oh is that what's that that's is that number three that four that's number four three was the avengers all get killed all right yeah i've heard good things about third the fourth one i'm hearing pretty good things so far as well so who knows yeah what do you think about a clocks and kent what would he would what would he be like we don't want jeremy clocks and kent jeremy clocks and the superman i feel like that's a good choice i wish he was superman so he can fuck it last forever yeah make everything just just all of the things i need to keep watching clocks since farm i didn't like that show pretty sweet uh if you decide to do a soca series for efat mini series next year will you try watch some of the clone wars finally i'm not interested in doing a soca really um i don't know if you guys are me the no i'm not the only worry i have is that it's gonna be like the mcu i need to see it to understand when she teams up with because apparently the plan is to team them all up in a big series they're literally doing like the fucking defenders shit but with stars because we'll have a soca boba sense with all the fucking money that the mcu is just printing yeah let's see why they'd say yeah let's do that with star wars it's yeah it's gonna be one of those things so maybe maybe i'll watch this soca but i doubt we'll do coverage of it like beyond telling people that we thought it was good or bad i have a feeling i can bet on what it's gonna be but you know gonna be shite fuck mary kill kuoka red panda fennec fox also high rag daddy who's kuoka i'm assuming all these as star wars characters because isn't fennec fox is fennec's the name of the snipe it right from boba the sorry mandalorian shows also wait wait fennec fox oh is that the are these zootopia characters i haven't seen zootopia but i've seen all the porn is there i guess that's zootopia is nick wild the fox and oh no the wild so the other five the little one the little fox i have no idea um yeah i don't know about that then all right so what are the names again uh kook kuoka cute q u o k k a that's a quacka quacka animal oh and then what's the next one oh so so the next one in the other is oh i thought this was i did not know that was an animal red panda and fennec fox i didn't realize fennec fox was a fox i thought it was like the name of someone so what is the so what's the question i suppose which one would you want to fuck mary kill oh well i wouldn't because all three are animals yeah and we're talking about if they were that yeah if they were i don't know i guess if i i don't know if they were sentient in human sized i don't know i don't know how to qualify if they were furries which one would i fuck mary kill i don't know um uh quackas are basically they smile all the time they are um that's that's just what they are they are one of the cutest animals you're gonna want to marry that one they are very cute they are shockingly cute um i might um i marry the quacka i think yeah i think i would i think fennecs are a bit too high energy to put up with all the time the way there's like zooming around and i think they're not turn well i i think they're loud and um i think they're like really just always zipping around stuff like that so i might i might kill the fennec mare well no i might hmm well no that means i would fuck the fennec take use of all that super high energy right i would marry the quacka and kill the red panda there you go i think i i think i think i'd switch out the panda in the box i abstain i i'm not answering fuck mary kill on animals that's uh well if they were like arts apient thinking if they were in a version that was i am i am like yeah like actually yeah that's uh that's i think i i think i'll retroactively abstain well i i put forth my initial objection basically necessary prerequisites that i would participate in what the thing is the way i was working with it in my head was do you want to hang out with this animal for a long time a short time or not at all that was kind of the logic in my head yeah oh that's fair enough that's a good replacement there you go ask us those in future for animals long time short time not not get rid of it in that case i want to hang out with the red panda a lot they're adorable right or are they are they not friendly i don't know hawkers though hawkers like they're always smiling maybe i'll hang out with the quacka for a bit because i don't know i want a range of emotions right yeah yeah that's the thing maybe um yeah like what how do i if it's always smiling like how do i know if it's like sad or how do i want to what if it really wants to make the smile count that must be you know if you're always smiling i guess that's it that's an interesting point to think about would you want to hang out with somebody who's always smiling and just always happy it's like sometimes you want them to get mad apparently red pandas bite i'm pretty sure all animals bite but oh yeah does a slug i'm sure a slug does bite in its own weird way do you see the video where it consumes water it just goes yeah oh my god turns into the weird amorphous blob there's a worm bite oh i don't know how do they know how it ends no i don't think so i don't know but i don't think they bite i don't think they i don't think they they can't bite a human they just just can't i don't think they're physically well sure but i mean there are animals that bite you can't tell abiding just because they're chat how do whims metabolize teach us well they like ingest they they suck up dirt and stuff from there i guess they just their their mouth hole whichever ends the front i wonder if it confuses itself if it even sometimes it's like which side is my front side it always moves in like a fit person view it sees itself that way and it's like off the camera upside down i don't know am i moving forward or am i what is life whims have five hearts is that true maybe they're teeny tiny hearts probably that is interesting that is interesting actually yeah they dig real hard they have ganglia where the head is some whims have teeth and can bite humans oh my god like a tape whim there's another one of the spooky creations that probably shouldn't exist yep um you've had civil war debate against southpaw when right i i i can there is for their sake they don't want that to happen i disagree with southpaw on plenty just because i disagree with them on whatever doesn't mean there's an automatic debate in the in the wings winter soldier was what you could call i guess an exception because i was interested in the fact that they thought winter soldier held up and they sort of kind of use similar standards to us so it's like this should be pretty easy to translate like the problems of it like for example if we debated um i don't know there's plenty of people in our spheres if we debate about winter soldier that i think a lot of the stuff we would have said would have been waved off as like a fucking who cares who cares if the german ai has cracked fucking ai in the 70s that you know and we'd be like i don't know i think that matters but um yeah i disagree with southpaw on a whole bunch of things and uh i i think that he's gonna be fine in terms of me not liking terriers i'm sure he'll be fine um and i honestly i do not want to debate terriers i just no i i have talked to him about it the first two episodes i'm like he knows that i think it's he knows i think it's shit and i i i know that it's not preferable for him but i'm sure he'll be okay who recommended terriers it wasn't seen on a whim well i mean if i'm just gonna be completely honest i i saw more praise for terriers than i've seen for most things in my life like yeah and i just uh i don't know it's just like we should probably give this a shot then and like like honestly like calling it a master work saying was it the first five episodes with ten out of tens um so the show itself is like a nine and there are there are several ten out of ten episodes like several more than one for how many how many was there really in terms of ten out of ten episodes rags i don't know that there was an episode that was even a five i don't think i would give that to an episode no um i've never heard of the show in my life okay yeah so to be fair what i'm talking about is from the people who've seen it i saw a lot of it on twitter i think it's because southpaw might have been retweeting a lot of perspectives on it and so i saw a lot of them like man we're talking like i was just seeing universal praise from people talking about it i don't even know that i saw anyone say like yeah terrors is okay just like master work master work master work master work and i was like all right fringy you're apparently teaming up for some some watch through is like i can join you guys too is after the um uh the black widow video was done and the anniversary stream so i was like you know what i could use watching a tv show and think like i don't know dude it sucks it really sucks and it's not even a situation of like yeah but i can see why you like it i can't i would struggle i don't know i i don't i don't know aside from like personal reasons as opposed to like things that have you know within the the media itself i because again i don't think bojack is good at all i don't like it but i totally understand why people like it because i know why i like it there's something there that is worthwhile it's just mired in a lot of you know poor writing and bad comedy atler is another one it's like i can see what people yeah i know why people like atler seems like it's got a really cool world um yeah like this show oh they said i meant civil war sorry i misunderstood i thought they meant like a civil war debate over the fact that it's terriers but they meant a debate over civil war which i i mean i assume that's what they meant yeah like i said for their sake they don't want that i mean i i i just i i'm not like like the debate ones the winter soldier one was super valuable because i don't think many people if it all had heard the criticisms we had for for a soldier all the defenses are far from home yeah in honest um as for civil war like i don't know give me give me time to make a video on civil war one day give me i've said i'd make it since before e5 was even a thing i think um i'll get there one day and i can talk about why i think that movie is so well written uh in the mcu and then we'll see we'll see what the sentiment is looking like if it's still like ah you got everything wrong super shitty i mean i still probably wouldn't i don't know about a debate format it'll definitely be like one of those entirely understandable probably they not want that rags because they'd get slaughtered publicly and that's um save one the dom's arm from being ripped off dotty slash sara from torture in one division or handsome man being diana's sex toy us the one division people i'm gonna go for yeah there's too many of them the dawn is a fucking hero and he would be upset if i chose him out of the three yeah be like why would you do that also he will probably he will make a full recovery that's the thing and it was a very limited singular event but there's too many people i mean even handsome man apparently doesn't even know that it happened which helps in a way yes we never get confirmation that he knew right yeah but all the people there's a lot of physical and emotional trauma for a lot of people this is actually of the three options this is the clear correct answer i'm just terrifying that they're apparently away the whole time like that's just you've gone so far and so many people so yeah i would save them they're gonna need a lot of therapy some of them uh and it's just the worst thing uh the show writer for terriers is leslie headland isn't she writing an upcoming star warshow or movie listening to a talk it's no wonder it's bad i know boy i know nothing about any of that uh i'm not familiar with that wouldn't pick it as a point of pride to have been involved in the writing of terriers um i don't know it was weird when dox strange killed other beings to be more powerful they also had the ancient one be wrong about time again so i'd say three four one two wait in terms of oh i guess episode's best to waste uh which would be three four one two okay does superman have heat vision or laser eyes i think it's called heat vision right i think it's heat vision yeah as for mechanically which should fall under i don't even like heat vision age all right it's like uh i guess the idea is does he fire lasers or does he is wherever he looks it gets hot but he can focus it into a beam at that point what is the difference i guess okay i'm not sure i don't know actually kill the red panda rags you're pure evil i mean i gotta kill one of them i mean you forced him where was er in 150 i'm afraid uh i think er's kind of like lowered his um i mean we've not seen any new videos in a while i will i will let him jump on to efab second he wants to i'm not sure how active he is on the internet right now i think he still retweets stuff on um on twitter so there's that but uh yeah he would need to have him i would uh i would have talked to him about how much he loves uh like Loki and wand division i'm sure he adores those i don't even does anyone know if he's got another video coming now i don't know if he's said anywhere i'll keep an eye on chat for that one but uh that is actually us having caught up with today's and we've taken a chunk out of um 150s but 150s will have to be done over a course of time if you remember rags uh 100s ones took us 20 something hours something like that yeah a couple couple efabs couple long efabs so we will get there i think y'all said he's done oh i hope not but at the same time i wouldn't want him to be doing shit that he doesn't want to do naturally spray the beach in front of the lighthouse that's a good point i could have gotten a whole other star but yeah we'll probably uh stop here actually because i actually would like to go to the grocery store ah i got you um but i mean well we did eight hours and if we continue to do eight hours every wednesday i reckon we'll be able to catch up gonna be great we'll get there right on time whenever that time maybe um but yeah i don't know is there anything you guys want to mention before we we shut shop no just uh consider buying our incredible plushies uh buy the pair if you can the more support they get the better it is for us and potential future campaigns and they are amazing in their own right yeah highly recommend it um but other than that we'll we'll get through 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