 Freedom today. I wanted to talk to you about this one thing that this other guy that looks like me has to say so Yeah, go ahead and talk to him Wait, no, don't talk to him. That would be weird Listen to him Freedom I am sitting here with a freedom partner by the name of James. What is going on? James does a show called the skeptic skeptics and believers show Here on YouTube link in the description if you want to check that out where you talk to People of different Theistic beliefs as well as atheists. Well, what we do actually is we bring people of diverse opinions It doesn't necessarily have to be just like Christians and atheists or or religion though That's where it's focused right now It's actually a live event in Murfreesboro where everybody's invited to come So if you're ever in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, you can come hang out with us check us out. It is every Sunday Now the current physical venue is where it's at the experienced church right now It depends on how many people we have but right now the experienced church is letting us use Their venue and their rooms and things of that nature. Sometimes we have pizza. Sometimes we don't it's a lot of fun Okay, if you like pizza, I love pizza. Yeah, see there you go. What kind of pizza though? Pepperoni pizza. Are we talking about just like standard pizza? We're talking about like Chicago style New York style directly from Chicago In fact, we have it delivered from Chicago specifically. Oh, yeah, the guy shows up and he's just like the bearish Yep, that's exactly what it is. All right. Technically you can't prove that isn't true So um so now this now you've done a lot on YouTube in the past you had You did a thing where you reviewed games. Yeah, I've been on YouTube for about nine years now First started out with my own personal channel Called lasso yo and then I did game reviews from the gaming heretic until we found out a lot of people Really wanted to start doing live events. So now we started doing live events with these skeptics and believers. Okay um and Now so you've you've worked with game developers you've worked with people of all kinds of different diverse cultures and belief systems What advice do you maybe have for finding people to work with on the platform? Oh, well, it's all about networking. Uh, so regardless of what you want to do the things I would suggest is networking getting with uh smaller youtubers or if you're in gaming getting in with small developers small gaming um like people who make games and things of that net um getting with networks and uh Really just getting out there and doing your own events and making your name known. That's how I did Uh, like the way you and me are friends is that I just started talking to you everything and started, uh Getting in with the freedom network and people at the network. So now I have friends in gaming. I have friends within youtube uh networks itself not just Freedom but others and uh Within the atheist and christian communities and things like that again. It's all about knowing people No, when you now you've used the word network in a couple different, um, uh, a couple different ways here, um Now you were talking about freedom, but you also when you say networking you're talking about that like social networking We're not talking about like facebook twitter We're talking about just like meeting people shaking hands kissing babies that kind of thing Yeah, so well when I was talking about networking what I meant was getting to know people within fields of what you want to do so I first I started out with my own personal channel and that was more starting out with uh christians and atheists And I reached out to other channels That were both christians and atheists when I went into gaming Uh, which I did for a long time and got pretty successful with it. I reached out to small time, uh small time game developers I worked with them did reviews with them and then I was able to use that to do the bigger channels So for instance, I worked with telltale games, uh, which was they were smaller at the time And now that I have a good relationship with them I've used that to do triple a titles or I did when I was under Very nice very nice um So as far as um Now the skeptics and believers right now you said it's a live event now It's my understanding from a conversation we were having earlier that that may transition to into more of a podcast thing No, so what what's happening right now is we're doing live events We're recording it and we're putting it on youtube as well as starting to do itunes So it's still staying in a podcast format, but the focus is going to be within Uh, quote-unquote networking within murphursboro itself So i'm going to be doing live events where everyone can come I'll be recording that and then i'll be putting it on youtube itself So it's it's a podcast, but my focus is more growing it Locally because I think that's what you need to do when you're doing a channel So if you're going to have a niche or something you're going to do, uh, find how you do it and then and then Expand on that. So I want to grow within murphursboro, which eventually will grow both the podcast and the channel on youtube So like for instance when you're doing gaming things like that do rpgs and get really good, uh friends and within developers with rpgs and things like that. Yeah um, so uh, you were talking about the concept of like kind of Finding your niche or your target and then Kind of expanding from there. Um, and I'd like to go ahead and say that uh, there are some really good Uh, there's some really good information in freedom academy on how to do that Which we're either about to relaunch or we just did relaunch With a brand new host Not sure where that is But uh, yeah really good information in your dashboard about that Almost done course style like, um, youtube certification or you to meet course um So now you said you've been on youtube for What eight nine years? Yeah nine years or seven years. Um Who would you say is out of all that time one of your favorite people to work with? Oh, I don't know no fair saying me Uh, because I because I know that would have been your first. Yeah, everybody else said that Um, I don't know. I've worked with so many people. It depends on on how you want to look at it because there I've worked with so many people um Man, that's a good question Angry joe hugs me once daddy. Yeah, that was fun. Was it an angry hug? He always he always hugs angry. Okay. Um, never hug angry. Don't hug Hug angry never go to bed angry with angry joe. Um, love you joe if you're ever watching this doubt He is but if you ever do uh, man, I don't know that put me on the spot. I'm not I'm not really sure I've worked with so many people that Just so now you've you've gone to conventions. Correct. Um, what conventions have you gone to? So that's again that works it in when I was doing the gaming network. Um One of the outlets that I did was going to like gaming conventions. So I did wizard con comma con uh, and several little Um conventions as well, which is what you should start out doing if there's conventions in your area Just find little conventions and go to them and network that way uh, and just do things that are even on the um Are some are of the interest of niche like um, oh, there's one It's an anime convention. I forget what it was but they also have anime games there. So I did that For a little while as well. So yeah Um, now what's your experience there? I mean, uh, do you find that they're good for? um For getting contacts with companies or more for people or both Well, you have to do it effectively. So if you're going to go to a convention The first thing I would suggest Depending on what you want to do if you're going there just to Be like a fan and do fan. Um Stuff than just talking to people it's fine But if you're trying to grow a brand What I would do is I would contact the convention itself or the person who's running the convention And position it as if I'm uh, like a media outlet Like that and wanting to do interviews and things and what I did is I contacted them stating that I'd put Footage form almost in a media style and then did interviews with different people and then after that I would interview um People who came to the conventions and things like that But the focus should be on what you want either it's going there as a fan and just doing it I don't know whatever um markiplier way Or doing actual interviews and trying to grow your brand that way. Okay Um, have you ever found anyone to collaborate? No, I'm not talking about interviews But maybe somebody you work with after the fact at a convention. Oh, sure. Uh, yeah multiple people What's fun is when you're going there and you find other youtubers Uh, and then you get to Connect that way so you'll be surprised how many other youtubers go there and they're doing videos So I've I've met them and then done uh collaborations that way. So do you um, like to facilitate that Did you ever wear like uh, like maybe a shirt that said youtuber or something to make that blatantly obvious? Oh, it's all about Yeah, I mean again, it comes down to what you're wanting to do for me. I was branding the gaming heritage So when I went there, I had a pullover jacket said the gaming heritage joined the rsc on the back It had my name Uh, if someone was going with me and they had the video camera and everything They had the gaming heritage on it and whatever their name was if they're a part of it So yeah, so and there was youtube logo is all over it as well So it's gonna cost you a little money, but if you're going to go and you're going to Push a brand definitely because people will walk up to you. Hey, I'm doing a youtube thing too And that also gives you that professional edge to one thing I noticed while I was at vidcon is that um, the people who either They they gave off a professional vibe or they sort of had that, you know some Um, bit of polish they got away with a lot more They're like being in places. They shouldn't have been in Saying and doing things they should have never done when we first started out, uh That reminds me a funny story when we first started out the first event convention we ever did was blizzcon and uh, I didn't Blizzard's weird on the way they do it because they don't tell you if you're approved or not until like two weeks Before it happens and you can't buy tickets based on that So I didn't even try that with though. I wish I had I was still new Uh, so we just showed up with cameras and everything and we had people walk up and tell us we needed to get in the media press side Which was a faster line To get through because we just showed up with cameras and everything. I just assumed it was going to be Cool. Yeah, it was a funny event because we had on again We had the gaming heritage stuff and we had big cameras and they told us to get into the media prison so um This this guy at freedom headquarters and I named staff He and I showed up at like asia pop con. I believe it was And we showed up. We had media badges But there was always different staff working But much like you, you know, they saw the big camera. They didn't even check our credentials. They just wave this in Yeah So, yeah, I mean, it's just just show up just uh, you know be branded to the nines And act like you're there act like you were meant to be there and you're the one that they all want to see So you're a family man Yes, yes, I am Well, actually the reason I ask about that is That to me means that you have to do a pretty heavy balancing act between You know between work play daddy time Um, you know time with the wife, etc. That's got to leave you pretty ragged sure. Well, uh When I worked it was it was pretty difficult. It still is luckily I'm in a position where I don't have to work and I can do youtube full time Uh, but so you don't see youtube as work like is that is that because it's your passion or Well, yeah, but I mean what I was going to say is that it I when I do When I'm recording and everything it's done at night when everyone else is asleep So I have a choice. I can uh, I can choose if I choose to do youtube or choose to record anything Then it's going to be when everyone else is asleep and I'm sacking my own sleep to do it because I'm focused on family and other things Especially when I worked so it is a sacrifice. Yeah So, uh, do you have any time management tips anything that you've found works for you? Other than just recording while everybody else is asleep. Um Well, I mean it's come down to You know anyone who does youtube unless you're PewDiePie or someone who can pay others to do it you understand that you do everything So it's not just recording a video Uh, you have to record the video you have to edit the video you have to do the thumbnails You have to do everything What I found is to do a little bit at a time throughout the day Now all my recording is done at night when everyone else is asleep But after I get that recording, uh, I can find times during the day When like my kids are sleeping uh to edit the video and then Towards later towards the night I can then um Put in the information and upload or set the upload schedules and everything For me what works best is just scheduling out different tasks for different times. So I I uh do all the recording at night And then I'll do the editing sometime in the morning Then I'll upload it and I'll do all the tagging and the descriptions and setting the schedule In the afternoon. Okay, so what works for me? So you don't always have to block everything together. You can split it up Uh throughout the day just keep to that. Don't don't let apathy get in there so, um I'm asking you this because you've done all kinds of different styles. You've done the More kind of vlog style and I assume there were response videos things like that You've done gaming. You've done now. You're doing something more podcast related. Um, Do you ever find yourself getting ahead? Like, you know knowing Everything that's going to come out this week is filmed and ready I you know now I can worry about two weeks from now three weeks from now You ever get to that point where if you did have an emergency That took you a week like yeah, you get pneumonia or whatever that you'd be covered with constant content So there's a couple of things that I do for that and I'm I'm sure I saw some of this on freedom And through other so what I do is I look at what other people do and get other tips as well but what I would suggest is Generally my content is week to week because of the type of style I do would require me To be uh current events. So if you're doing like a makeup channel I don't know that you don't you can't schedule out three or four weeks or things like that So for me, it does have to be week to week and be very rare that I'm two weeks in advance and know what I'm doing What I would say is that if events happen When you do a channel you should have your main content like with the skeptics and believers We do the podcast. We do the things where people are um We're having the conversations and things but you should also have a backup or a b-roll because it's important that you get information up there So find something that isn't as taxing that you can keep on the back burner Or something that you can put together really quick and then throw that up. So as you said I do vlogs. I do gaming. I've done vlogs. I do gaming and do things like that now I'm in podcast. I think that's where my niche is. That's what I've really found But if for any reason I need to We need to go a week without it or an emergency happens. Then I already have my vlogging Background so I can just do a quick vlog and throw that up there and keep it going. So cross-transferable skills Yeah, and again b-roll just something that's really easy So if you have a gaming channel what I'd do for b-roll on that is I used I did game reviews a lot But I had a um a skit called nintindu That I used to do and it was just a funny little character where I could just Pick it was based on nintindu. It was a parody of things stupid things nintindu did so all I had to do was go to the news Look up something stupid nintindu did use my character. Boom. That's a lot easier than doing a complete game Or you can just do um Of course you need to make sure for copyright and things but you can uh You can also just do like playthroughs like a quick playthrough like here's a level of starcraft or whatever you're doing Just just b-roll. That's really quick you can put up Okay, and you can do it and keep it on the back burner so that if you ever needed it You just do it now kind of like keeping a funny moments video just chilling there for yeah, okay I mean it's dependent on what kind of channel you're doing but have you ever messed around with um, I know these are a lot of different features i'm about to throw at you but um Facebook live streaming is a somewhat new thing facebook video twitter video um twitter live streaming through periscope. You ever mess with any of that? Yeah, so The brand is you or the brand is whatever you're putting forward and youtube Can be your mainstay, but it shouldn't be the only place that you are so I do do facebook live. I do do um Twitter live now the brand we just pause for a moment and and take a little bit of a moment of pleasure The fact that I got him to say do do all right living on everybody lives. Yes Okay, I was gonna tell now they can't have all of the rich information. No, they need the rich information so uh So for me the brand is me because we're doing live events live podcasts So on my facebook live or on my twitter, uh, I put up videos of me where people can interact with me and everything Again, your brand is not just um Don't keep your brand only on youtube. Uh, find a way to get your brand out there with facebook and other things Um, okay. I think we've covered a lot of really good ground here. Um It is is there anything you want to plug any kind of social medias any kind of You know things before we go. Well, there's two things I would like to do. I said one while you get two Okay, fine. Because you make fun of the dg thing. Okay, fine First off, I'm gonna say that uh, if you like doing youtube, you should figure out how what works for you on youtube You shouldn't just stop Uh, I think you should stay committed So if you want to do vlogs and you've done vlogs for six months to a year and it just for some reason Doesn't feel like it's working out then maybe you should try gaming or you should try a way to make the vlogs work Uh, don't just give up because it doesn't seem like it's working. I have done youtube for nine years and have done very numerous things and uh Through networking and through working with that. I'm now at a point where uh, I've gotten a lot of momentum So I would say keep at it and find new ways to do what you love and try new things if it doesn't work and you can also go on to The first off you can check in the description because it's going to be there But you can also go to youtube type in skeptics and believers You will find our podcast there or you can find me on twitter at devout james Or last but not least and I want to see you there go on to facebook And type in skeptics and believers or go to facebook.com forward slash Facebook.com forward slash Skeptics in just the letter in believers We'll find it there. It may also be linked down there Unless you're finding this on some channel who pirated it because this content so awesome Um, actually, you know what I've been finding a lot of people like ripping off the anthony show on other channels Oh, yeah, they do that. It's random. I think it's bots on it. It's it's it's been happening to a lot of my I had a point before you plugged your your next thing. I forgot what it was Freedom I'm I'm failing here Oh, uh, you're gonna be on itunes soon. Aren't you? Yes. I'm gonna be on itunes And another point I wanted to put out there as he said about key, you know hashtag never give up Is that you know james is in a situation where you know, he's been doing youtube and doing youtube Now he's found a way to to take that youtube thing and transfer it into an irl in real life thing But still youtube is on the on the back end helping With the whole thing but not driving it. So I think that's a really good You know thing to keep in mind is that youtube doesn't always have to be at the forefront forefront. It can be A supporting character. Yeah, I agree. I mean again, you just you have to find what works for you anybody Can find a way to incorporate youtube to do what they want to do It's just a matter of how and where for people like angry joe or for market player. That's what they do That's their job for people like me. I found that the city of murphysboro absolutely loves our live events And so youtube is more back in than it was front end. Yeah, okay. Well anyways I'm gonna go ahead and kick it back over to me. They're in the studio Uh, and we're gonna we're gonna get weird. We're gonna have some fun. Yeah till next. Yeah Julius get me out of here. No, no Thank you for watching another freedom video if you'd like to watch another click over there if you'd like to I don't know maybe subscribe Maybe you'll want to stick around for a little while. There's probably some buttons over there That'll help you out with that and if you'd like to see more of my face Go ahead and click it. I dare you