 Okay, if I could welcome everyone to the August twenty-twenty-one, four or thirty-two meeting. We're extremely excited to be back in person somewhat. This is sort of a hybrid meeting today. We're going to have some people virtual and questions this year. But nonetheless, thank you to everyone after a long time. Thank you for this. That's wonderful. I can welcome you, members, staff, and guests. We ask for your patience during this hybrid meeting. Multiple staff members are behind the scenes to make sure all applicants and participants are able to communicate with the board at the appropriate time. I'm sorry, it's not. It sounds a lot better. My apologies. Hopefully that picked up. Applicants are participating in person. The public is able to participate in person or via virtual options. So they can stream the meetings through City TV. They can submit letters and statements via email to COC board meeting at Columbia SC.gov, leading up to and during the meeting. Those letters will be read into the record up until the time the board goes into board discussion. The public may also call in at 1-855-925-2801. And when prompted, enter the meeting code 4289. Participating by phone, you'll have three options. You can hit star 1, which allows you to listen. Star 2 allows you to record a voice message that will be read into the record. Make sure you speak clearly and leave the case information so we know which one you're calling about. And star 3 allows you to be placed in a queue to speak live when prompted. At any time listening on the call, you can hit star in your chosen option. But please wait until your case is called to hit star 3. You can also stream at publicinput.com slash COC Boza August 2021. And just make sure if you're participating by phone while also streaming the meeting, you need the audio on your computer to avoid playback issues. And there's a large delay between the Zoom and the live recording on City TV. So if you notice, we pause at certain times, which is to allow the audio to catch up to give citizens time to submit any comment. And we'll do roll. Mr. Dinkins. Here. Mr. Gregory. Here. Mr. Primus. Here. Ms. Benner. Here. Ms. McIntosh. Here. We have a quorum. Applicants with request before the Board of Zoning Appeals are allotted a presentation time of 10 minutes. This time should include but is not limited to an overview of the project, case history, and any pertinent meetings held regarding the request. This time also includes all persons presenting information on behalf of the applicant, such as attorneys, engineers, and architects. This time limit does not include any questions asked by the Board of Zoning Appeals or staff regarding requests. Any member of the general public may address the board at intervals of three minutes or five minutes if a spokesperson for an established body or a group of three or more. The applicant will then have five minutes for a rebuttal. The Board reserves the right to amend these procedures on a case-by-case basis. The Board or the general public wishes to discuss an item that's on the consent agenda that item will be removed and placed on the regular. The Board then approves the remaining consent agenda item. The first matter on the consent agenda is the approval of the July 1st, 2021 minutes. Case 2021-0075 for 4,800 Broad River Road. This is a special exception to permit a residential care facility for men. Case 2021-0076 for 1711 Shivers Road. This is a special exception to permit a residential care facility for women. In case 2021-0077 for 1618 McFadden Street. This is a variance to the minimum front yard step back for a single family dwelling. If anyone wishes to speak on the case to remove the case from the consent agenda, let the Board know now. And we'll also pause to give time for audio to catch up so that we can check the COC Board meeting at ColumbiaSD.gov and the public input phone number. And I'm not seeing any emails and there are no callers. Okay, thank you. All right, I would like to ask for a motion regarding the consent agenda please. I move that we approve the consent agenda subject to staff comments. Second. Okay, we have a motion and a second. All those in favor please say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay, motion passes. Thank you. And if anyone was here for the consent agenda, you're welcome to leave. You don't have to stay for the remainder of the meeting. We're going to use the following outline for the regular agenda items. I'll introduce the case. I will have a timer going for the applicant to have the 10 minutes for their presentation. The board will be able to ask questions. We'll pause for public input prior to the applicant rebuttal and then action by the board. The first item on the regular agenda is case 7424 Garner's Ferry Road. Special exception to permit a second drive-through lane at an existing drive-through facility for a restaurant use. The applicants are present and they're welcome to come to the podium. Rachel, quickly, before we get going, do we need to swear in any speakers? We used to do that before we went virtual. Okay, I've forgotten the exact words, but we will accomplish it. So if anyone here is here to speak on any matter, would you please stand? Okay. Do you swear to tell the truth and nothing but the truth? Okay, thank you. Good catch. Hey, good afternoon. I'm Brian O'Donnell with Hill Fully Rossian Associates. I'm here today representing Chick-fil-A Incorporated regarding the existing Chick-fil-A restaurant that we are trying to add a second drive-through lane located at 7424 Garner's Ferry Road. We are proposing the expansion of the drive-through aisle to incorporate two lanes around the entire building. This includes expanding the existing outside meal delivery canopy that's there today to overhang the canopy to cover the proposed lane. This will be done by taking the existing roof off the canopy now and putting columns directly adjacent to the ones there and then putting a new roof over top and just virtually expanding the canopy out to cover both lanes on that. Our scope of work does not change any traffic patterns on site. It also does not adjust any ingress egress on site. Our intention is to reduce traffic buildup and increase safety for team members on site. Thank you. Okay. As you're aware, there's some specific criteria that we're asked to judge this request for special exception on. Yes, sir. You stated that the addition of the drive-through aisle doesn't change the vehicular or pedestrian traffic. So expand on that a little bit. It seems to me the addition of an additional drive-through would somewhat impact the pedestrian traffic. So today the single lane has a through lane on the right side of it and we are proposing to get rid of that through lane and put a second drive-through lane. However, it's still an entrance only and exit only on the same enter and drive exit. So we don't adjust any drive aisles coming in or out of the site. Okay. That makes sense. That's a good answer. Okay. Any members of the board have any questions for the applicant? So essentially it's like you're just feeding the same cars into two spaces in two lanes instead of one. Correct, yes, ma'am. Like in a bank or something. Exactly. We have a dual lane front canopy and it comes into one lane around the building and we're just proposing bringing both lanes all the way around the building. Yes. So from a pedestrian standpoint of parking, is there, what's the sort of path if you look on your site plan on that north side, sort of getting across that traffic? It seems like there's a little bit of... Along the north side? I'm sorry? Yes. I'm sorry, could you repeat the question? Looking at it now. Sorry, if you're looking at that parking along the north, it looks like those people would have to get across now two lanes of people pulling out. Two lanes of traffic? Yes. Yes, correct. So up there on the north lane on those 60 degree spaces, there will be two lanes, two drive-through lanes. But we have included a stop bar that stops them right there prior to both lanes exiting, the drive-through ordering, or I'm sorry, pickup area, and they would wait there. Now the cars parked up in that spot up there, they have enough room for code to get out and with fire, there's the 20 foot lane right there to get out. You know, given a tight space that it is, it could take a second for cars to, if they're backed up far enough to have to wait to get out. But we don't anticipate that much having an increased car stack on the drive that we're hoping to reduce that issue. Do we have any other questions from members of the board? What's Chick-fil-A going to do when the two lanes stop, start not being enough? They're going to get bigger properties and get three lanes out there then. Open another franchise. Yeah. Thank you, John. Do any members of the public wish to speak on this matter? Okay. Rachel, any public input? I'll come in, but we'll pause for a minute just to give the audio time because there's no caller on the line. Okay. Do we have any board discussion regarding this matter? Anyone want to talk about anything? Agreed. Okay. At this point, thank you very much. Thank you so much. I'd like to ask for a motion. Make a motion that we approve the special exception for the second drive-through lane subject to staff comments. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Thank you. 2021-0078 for 530 Divine Street. This is a special exception to permit a drive-through facility for a restaurant use. The attorney for the applicants is actually on Zoom. So if she wants to unmute herself, she's welcome to begin when ready. Thank you, Rachel. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And certainly do appreciate having the option to participate remotely today. I am representing the Palmetto Pig restaurant. And their request for a special exception to add a drive-through pickup window. To the restaurant. In the application. I would like to make it clear that this would simply be a pickup window that customers would not be ordering at this window. It would just be a drive-through. The Palmetto Pig restaurant is, as you all probably know, you've probably eaten there. It is a barbecue restaurant down in the VISTA near the Todd and Moore store and by the compress, Palmetto compress apartments. And in addition of this pickup window, as you can see, folks would come in off a flasky drive past the pickup window and then exit onto Divine Street. As it pertains to the criteria for the special exception, we don't believe that this is going to have any effect on the adjoining properties in terms of noise, light, fumes, odors, litter. Certainly wouldn't have any effect on the aesthetic character of the area because pickup window already exists. It's just not in use currently. It would not contribute to a proliferation of pickup windows in the area. This is kind of, they're not a whole lot of restaurants down there with pickup windows. So it's not going to cause a lot of these to happen. And this is currently MX2, which permits a wide range of commercial, industrial retail university uses. And this use is consistent with that. Today in person, you have Jean Antley, who is the owner of the Palmetto Pig restaurant. And we also have Tony Shepherd, who is the traffic engineer that has helped us work on developing a traffic plan for the proposed pickup window. The alternative over to Mr. Antley to give you a little bit of background on his business. And then he'll turn it over to Mr. Shepherd. And of course, feel free to ask any of us any questions at any time. Thank you. Good evening. My name is Jean Antley. I opened the Palmetto Pig in 2002 of June. And we worked hard to build a business up until a couple years ago when the COVID pandemic hit. And that basically changed everything. In other words, we had to close down for two months. And, um, but what the COVID pandemic did was change the business model. Now more and more people are more likely to pick up food, call it in, or have a vendor deliver it to them. Obviously for safety precautions with the COVID and all that. And, um, I'm dealing right now with DoorDash, Child Now, Bites Squad and several others. And I've even turned several down because we couldn't handle coming in the front door parking in the very few parking places I have and entertaining my walk-in people to dine in. So we need a pick-up window. I strictly want to make a point of this. I don't want to, I don't want to order a window. I've been to Hardiz and I've been to McDonald's. And I can't understand a woman. And I'm sure some of you probably can't even understand me, but they couldn't understand me when I was ordering either. So that's out. We just want folks to, the customers who call the order in and they do now, but they have to come in to pick it up. Unless they request us to come deliver it to their car. We put the name on the order. So this would make it easier for them to drive up and say that I'm coming to pick an order up for Mr. Sanders or Mr. Fogler or whatever. And then the vendors like DoorDash and Bites Squad and Chow Now, they can come through the drive-through, which would be more convenient for them, more efficient for us, and could handle it a lot better. Because the way it's situated now, and I don't know if any of you have been there, they have to, if we have a line for the buffet, they have to wait their turn, so to speak, or get somebody else's attention. And it's a little inconvenient and time-consuming to get their orders out, even though we already haven't fixed, because they have to, the customers obviously have to pay for them. But if we could get a pickup winner, just a pickup winner for customers that call in and order something, like two plates of pound of meat, quarter hash, et cetera, or these vendors that come, DoorDash, et cetera, then it would help us tremendously to accommodate them, get them through. And, which is vitally important to me, is save some parking places, because I only have six parking places out front and one in the handicap. And obviously, if someone's coming in to pick up something, they have to park. And that's the ones that I control, of course, but anyhow, so that would make it very, very easy for us and probably help my business, because if it hadn't been for these vendors, we would have struggled a lot more than we already had. So, I appreciate you considering this today, and I appreciate your time. Thanks, Jane Dalla, Tony will give us the Traffic Engineering perspective. Thank you, if y'all would, I know this is probably a little hard to see from the distance you're at, but there is a small printout in each one of y'all's tables that you can look at. You can see exactly what I'm referencing and talking from. Just from a understanding of what you're kind of the base that you're looking at, we actually utilized the plans of record for the Pulaski Street inavista work that was done adjacent to the parcel, which gave us the most readily available surveyed information, and it also actually had picked up the building in its entirety as well. Therefore, you will see, based on the application that was submitted and the flow that's shown on the overhead currently, we basically took that and it expanded a little bit to determine, as you see the blue dashed line, that is the right-of-way line based on Pulaski Street. And then you will see that there's the place to put a small curb in the existing where there's actually a concrete surface all the way to the building. Going, that would have to be excavated out from the right-of-way line to the building. Going to put a curb in and actually asphalt and put the actual drive-through lane in. I know one of the major questions was what kind of width can get within this area. You're looking at about 11 foot effective width in there, and that's from the face of curb to the face of building. That lane would actually traverse forward as it shows where the existing pickup window is currently located. And then it would traverse forward towards Divine Street. They would have to cross what is currently a pedestrian path that is coming from the parking spaces along Pulaski. One of the things we would recommend in that area because of actually putting the curb in you depress the lane so you actually table the actual surface of the crossing. So the crossing is flat but the car is going over table. In other words, giving that additional warning and protection and slowing those vehicles even more. But this lane is a little narrow so the vehicle speed should be extremely slow to start with. Then they would proceed forward and actually exit onto Divine Street. Basically, you know, of the parking spaces he would, he would end up dedicating one parking space for that lane to exit out. From a operational standpoint since this is a basically just taking into account the current methods in doing business. He's not increasing the size or space of his business. Therefore, the lane use intensity is not increasing. And from a traffic operations standpoint this actually for a drive-through or for a pickup operation instead of them parking in a parking stall which currently they would be backing towards Divine Street through this drive-through they're actually going forward into Divine Street and they could clear the existing parking and have better sight lines actually coming out onto Divine than they would in a parking situation. With that. Thank you, Tony. So Divine Street is a local roadway. Correct. And of course Pulaski is a DOT roadway. So I guess whatever based upon our decision here today you're going to have to work with the city in regards to Divine Street. Have you had any input and I guess you spoke with the city traffic engineer. We've got a comment from the city traffic engineer. His comment was in relation to the exit point onto Divine based on SEDOT standards in a new construction there would be a 150 foot corner space requirement but that is in a new construction or when someone is changing the land use or intensity of that land use for any modifications on site. In this case we feel that it falls in that latter category so the existing would be in compliance and my understanding is Divine and Pulaski are both local streets. So Pulaski is not a DOT roadway? Not part of the state. It's mismatched. There's blocks here there. It's very confusing but the blocks that we're having question are local streets. Interesting that there's DOT plans on that part of Pulaski then if it's not a DOT street. This is actually a city plan. Okay it's a city plan. Yes sir. The plans are part of this thing where they're changing the crossing to Green Street. Is that where your these plans are about? No man these are the plans that actually did the changes around the compress. In the parking and the chicanes that were actually put in Divine Street headed to the railroad. One point of interest that you do bring up if I may with the Green Street bridge part of that project actually the negotiations with the railroad is the closure of the Divine Street crossing as well. So if you look at the traffic patterns in this area it's going to be a limited access facility in the near future. The Palmetto Compress people then who could previously have gone over the track will no longer be able to and will now have to be going past you to get out or you know more or less. Okay. Their desired path is towards the university that you'd anticipate they would come up to Divine turn on Pulaski go to Green to access back across. I'm thinking they were heading to five points half the time they probably headed over the tracks and then thought about it later but yeah okay. I got a question just given the you know given the limitations just by the size of the parcel what else was even I mean you might not have even considered anything else but were any other options considered? Based on the parcel size and the placement of the building any other option would be an actual impact into the building. Yeah that's a tight parcel. Yes sir. And I will say that pickup window already exists in the building so that was the business for the idea to actually put that pickup window into use. So Tony that left if you're leaving the drive through and you're taking a left across traffic onto Divine you know so close to Pulaski you think that's okay? It's an existing maneuver being made today. There's no statistic showing that it's a problem today. Actually the existing maneuver today is actually has more conflict potential because if you're in a parking stall that now this drive through comes through you're if you're wanting to make left you're backing actually towards the crosswalk crossing Divine Street where this one everything is actually in front of you. I would agree with that. Okay does anyone else have any other questions for the applicant? Any of the applicants? Do you have any idea how long people would be idling at the window for a pickup? Can you turn around handing the orders over? Most people call the orders in advance and we tell them how long to be before they come pick them up. In other words now we have a little I've had things that bike squad orders there and you read it off and they have a number when they pull up but they usually 15 to 20 minutes so it shouldn't be a problem. I don't want people backed up I don't want anyone coming and ordering from the window if anybody tries to do that we can say we'll go find a parking place and come in front and order from the cashier. My concern is rather than turning off their cars and going in they're going to be sitting there with the car running how long are they going to be sitting there with their car running until you hand them their order? Approximately. I haven't experienced a drive up before so probably similar to McDonald's or something like maybe one, two, three minutes, according to how large the order was but normally we have it bagged up and ready to go unless they come so early that we don't have it ready yet and then we can tell them drive on back around or whatever we need to do. I have a question about sort of the buffer zone between the sidewalk and the drive lane that seems like a little bit of a harsh condition you know if you're walking down the sidewalk on Pulaski and you're being crossed over by people pulling in the drive lane and then driving next to you are there plans to try to that's where most of my employees park in the back back there and I do have big trucks from U.S. food service coming through there to impart back there too to unload I just meant this little strip kind of along here was kind of primarily that strip is actually five to seven foot wide I'm sorry that strip is about five to seven foot wide if you'll notice there the little boxes that are shown on the item that you're looking at those are actually planners the actual physical sidewalk going through is actually adjacent to the curb next to Pulaski street you see that it's actually a hard line down behind that has some concrete in it but there's also planners in there as well so that's not a physical continuous sidewalk but they're pretty small Tony can you get an estimate of the distance between the curb and the start of the sidewalk proper when you say curb which curb proposed curbing on the outside of the pick up lane the curbing that we proposed to put in the distance between that and the start of the sidewalk proper I feel like we're in that five feet I mean based on the scale it looks like we're in that five to seven range I want to say it was 25 feet from the face of curb at the parking stalls to the building we're coming back 12 to 13 feet usually your sidewalk is in that five to seven foot range so you still got almost seven feet six to seven feet available between the edge of the continuous sidewalk and the curbing of where the lane starts well if you look at the black top is 11 feet wide assuming everything is drawn to scale you're talking about more than 11 feet it looks like from the black top to where the dark asphalt starts up on Pulaski here's around 13 to the back of the curb at the drive through it Tony is 11 feet typical for a drive out seems kind of wide to me it's 11 feet 11 to 12 feet is kind of normal I mean I've seen down to 10 in some operations so it's within the parameters of normalcy the order number requires 12 well then that sells I was just sort of thinking out loud that might could help a little bit what you were talking about if we could shrink that asphalt width a little bit seems kind of wide but I think that sells it then and we really can't and the picnic table is gone the picnic table and the picture is going to be gone I think that's a really good question I think it's a little misleading when you brought that question up I've read this incorrectly as well the blue line is the right way line and the sidewalk is offset from the right way a few feet so what you were getting at is if you're walking down the sidewalk how close do you really want to be to a car and a drive throughout and I think there's a few more feet then it appears immediately adjacent to the drive out because as Tony said there's more concrete sort of connecting the sidewalk on the roadway and the site so I think that was a good question I think that helps clear it up a little bit well do any other members of the board have any specific questions before we get in the board discussion for the applicant regarding this matter can I ask one more question the other sort of piece of just thinking about the sort of site circulation is it looks like it's pretty typical and having been there a lot is for traffic to go kind of behind the building and into the vacant lot adjacent is there a concern that you have some sort of cross traffic situation that could start happening if you're introducing a new traffic pattern does that make sense like if somebody's trying to cut through do we need to control the other side of the road is that out of our purview Rachel I don't know Gene you might want to speak to that people may park in that adjacent area but that is not area that you control if people are parking there they're really not that's not your property correct that belongs to Mr. Little John but we don't have traffic coming through cutting through normally they go back out to Divine Street where they came in because that's where usually they enter I guess to answer a question would you have an objection to placing something back here to ensure that that could not occur I feel like that would control matter of fact I can have Ryan Brewer do that he's doing my fence around my koolabat there now so I could do that be a good idea really because I don't want anybody cutting through anything I'm out of questions okay well is there anyone here from the audience who would like to speak on this matter okay Rachel do we have any public input no email okay well this is an interesting case at this point like to open up for discussion I think we've like always have sort of discussed it a little bit but now's a good opportunity to air your thoughts or concerns what do you all think it's a very good idea because I mean I was thinking about turning the car engine off and turning it back on and they say you're going to be you do that if you're waiting for more than a minute but it sounds like actually it's going to be from a pollution perspective better to have this pickup window than having people starting to stop in their cars a couple of times at least it's probably make sure your mic is on is your mic on yes it should be do I need to stand much closer to the all right do I need to say everything I said again or did everybody mostly get it seems like from a pollution perspective we're probably it's at least to break you in point and you know I think Celia brought up some good points hitting some sort of barrier on that side there to prevent the cross traffic I think that's a great idea you just never know what you're going to do when you change up a traffic flow and I think you know here we are approving Chick-fil-A for two drivers no it's completely different but here's a local business that's trying to survive from COVID and I just I think it's a unique problem and a unique solution just given the tight nature of the parcel so I generally like the idea of it yeah you know regarding COVID is certainly a lot better you don't leave your car there's no argument there I think it supports the business at any time I mean there's a lot of reasons why somebody might want to do a pickup rather than go on in and have to leave the kids in the car or the dog or something like that and this way you can just do it you're supporting that business you're able to process a lot more customers with less asphalt all the way around and I don't think parking I mean traffic is just never going to be a problem back there because it's just it's going to become even more of a backwater once Green Street gets the Green Street goes through and Divine Street is closed off well I think the idea is to increase pedestrian traffic though with the Green Street closure yes true a lot of the development within the Innovista area is really pushes pedestrian safety and the hell you're just one there it's like already such a pedestrian nightmare and I worry about it but I mean there are certainly people who walk there I mean I see people coming from the Amtrak walking around there and pulling their luggage and stuff like that there's a large student apartment complex directly across the street as well that's the only one of the criteria that's really even in question they easily meet the rest one vehicular and pedestrian safety that's the only one that gives me any pause here at all what is the lighting situation there I don't really recall I mean I'm wondering if that's a concern I mean it's more of a lunch place they have those lamps all the way up and down Pulaski Street the city install when they did the renovation so it's well lighted now and I also have one behind my building on the pole did I pay for them myself okay can I ask a question to them again are you steeped there at supper I thought pull them back up please we open Tuesday and Wednesday for lunch only 11, 2.30 and then Thursday Friday and Saturday 11 to 8.30 and then okay so it would be dark after in the winter time but it's lit it's well lit is what you're saying because of the street lighting stay up there for one second and I think forget the traffic engineer guy's name but the crosswalk that's more that's like a speed bump crosswalk you talking in front of the building yeah well basically it's a probably the best way I can explain it to you is kind of the tabled intersection that was put in sorry Lincoln and green right there next to the Coliseum you had it ramped up and then it's flat then it goes back down I mean that's a bigger version of this we're talking about doing kind of the same thing ramping up and that way the actual crosswalk for or actual sidewalk for the pedestrian doesn't change elevation you keep that the same but you bring the other up to it and then back down to kind of create a little bit of a speed speed bump effect for the vehicle that's smart right Rachel can I actually have another question are there any because the two palmetto trees there will only be one palmetto tree left at palmetto pig but it looks like those two palmetto trees are coming out is there any requirements by the city that they replace those trees or is that on the city do we know I don't believe though for the palmetto trees if they were the grand trees it would trigger but a lot's going to come down to because I mean this even if they use this approved it's going to have to meet all land development traffic all other city development regulations landscape triggers are based on project value whether any new landscaping would be triggered above what's already there is there going to be a drainage issue if you look those squares they were designed for the city to plant trees but they never planted I planted the palmetto trees when we opened it up it's three of them the one right closer to take out one at the end of two in the front of building but there are if we could move them if you wanted to we could plant something in those squares that's what that was designed for but the city never put nothing in there interesting what about drainage stormwater drainage and stuff now that you've got this table going is that going to mess up drainage somehow I don't even know what the drainage is like there it's mostly hard to take now the the existing is basically pretty much all impervious area so we're really not changing the impervious area so what you're capturing you're still going to basically handle almost in the same manner but that will have to go through the design elements when Mr Antley gets a site civil on actually doing that work the reason I'm thinking about is like for example the pedestrian overpass at Pickens on Pickens where College Street goes over USC I mean that's undriveable when it's a big storm you know they put the cop cars there it's just like down at Waley Street so but this isn't much of a doesn't look like you're changing the elevation much so you're not going to have a dip it's just going to be a raised area and then flat like it always is correct actually the actual lane will actually depress and then as you move up then it actually raises back up so you would drain it down the grade that is currently draining now today thank you well I think at this point unless anyone helps has anything else we will wrap up board discussion we had very good suggestion earlier so don't know if we want to write that into any potential motion or not but at this point like that can I have one more comment I mean I keep going back to the pedestrian safety too and not so much I don't think the vehicular safety is that big a deal but if people are walking to Palmetto Pig I mean I go there a lot for lunch too you know instead of would it be out of our purview to suggest that they have some sort of fence put along the sidewalk to keep pedestrians from walking through the drive-through line maybe have them so that they're directed to the crosswalk whatever condition we want I think we were going to get a motion sort of to that effect some kind of shield just some let's make it vague if we do just to give them some leeway yeah because any kind of shielding because it is in a design district would have to meet those requirements of the and don't get the shield or a fence just nothing too specific certainly a good idea yeah just so that people aren't walking through the drive-through line good point John thank you would y'all is that something y'all yeah yeah yeah I mean they probably benefit their site as well okay well there's a good discussion at this point we'd like to ask for a motion and y'all write whatever whatever stipulation you want into it let's see board thanks my first motion do we word it as an approve subject to some sort of inclusion of kind of thing like here let me there's some sort of yeah I move that we approve this special exception request subject to some sort of some sort of barrier between preventing cross traffic behind the building that was discussed as well as some sort of shield along the sidewalk and the new drive-through lane to prevent pedestrians you want to amend that to be a barrier barrier John how about the barrier be between the asphalt the edge of the new asphalt and the right away line yeah yeah very good we have a motion do we have a second okay we have a motion and a second all those in favor please say aye aye any opposed okay all right thank you there's no other business thank you good presentation all right at this point we'd like to ask for a motion to adjourn second all those in favor please say aye any opposed okay