 Hey, good seeing you, man. No minute. Oh, Jackson, Smith, and Jigba. Do you like watching yourself in videos? I can't lie, I do. Yes, good start. Yes, that was a great intro. I know, I feel, what would you have done if we did the little hype video except it was all mess ups? It was just drop balls. Ooh, that would have had me a little off the wall. But it's been a little uncomfortable. There's no uncomfortable. There's not many out there. We could be fine. Yeah, exactly. I appreciate that. All right, Seahawks Rookie joining us now. You're probably thinking, well, this is a basketball show. Yes, it is. You will try to get a basketball question in. Maybe. But first up, you grew up in Texas, a big football state. Yep. Did you have a basketball team growing up? Of course, yes. Basketball, it's huge in Texas. We got some players down in Texas. No players. And yeah, I grew up playing basketball. Basketball is honestly my favorite sport, just to watch and just to hoot. Did you, so you played? I did, I did. Okay, thank you. I'm a point guard, you know what I'm saying? You played varsity basketball in high school? I did, I did. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Point guards out there right now. If you could do it all over again, would you have stuck with basketball? I'm too short. I'm too short for, I didn't have the shot. He's short, but he got the shot. I didn't have the shot, you know. I'm facilitating, you know, I'm saying defense. You're in the style. Hard and hustle. Exactly. The games in Texas, they're like Dunkinville, those games, they were nuts. They're like, oh, they're insane. They're packed, they're sold out. There's crazy environments in Texas. Texas is a pretty good place for athletes in general. Oh yeah, the best. Yeah, we've got a lot going on here. If you had to, if you want to paint the picture for everyone, current player that you probably looked like out there? Current player? NBA one? Yeah, no, just. I'd hate to disrespect anyone. It won't be. But I would have to say, you know, a little Russell Westbrook high school, high school, not AU, we're not talking about outside of high school. I like that. A district play, I would go with Russell Westbrook. So you're saying he can't shoot? I would say the mid-range game was there. Yeah, definitely a older Russell Westbrook. Not like that of them, but. Call it Russell Westbrook. Because you know, we all, when we were growing up, we all had that one player that we modded our games after. We tried to be like that player. So would Russell Westbrook be that guy or somebody else? I would say Dwayne Wade. Yeah. As someone I looked at, like, I want to be that guy. And then Russell Westbrook, just mentality, demeanor, all that stuff. Too good for him. Toughness, speed, how he played, any of your basketball skills, did it translate to football? Oh, 1,000%. And the release game, the, you know, crossover game, all that stuff, that's real. The Hezzie, the Hezzie, get up out of there. You still got a game. I still got it. It's offseason. It's basketball season now. And the offseason, do you hoop? Like, pick up with you. For sure, it's basketball season. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? We'll catch some footballers here and there, you know, get in the way of room, but we got to get in that gym. That's the first and foremost. Are there guys on the team that are good enough to sort of, that's your cardio for the day or? I haven't played a lot of guys on the Seahawks, so we're gonna have to see when I get back to Seattle. Now that they all, did they know? All right, growing up in Dallas, are you a Mavericks fan then? Because of Dallas? I'm a big Mavericks fan. Lots of bummer. Luca, Kyrie, got the guys, Mark Cuban, you know. No more. No more, it sucks. Yeah, but he'll never really be gone. Yeah, he won't be gone. No, he can't be gone. He's not the Mavericks without Mark Cuban. But you know what, it's perfect for him because now he can go be the celebrity and sit courtside and not have to pay the bill anymore. Yeah, I think it's the best of my worlds. It's kind of a win-win for him. I heard that he set it up real nicely for visiting teams and stuff like that. Was that true? Y'all had a good time? It's amazing. Dallas is one of the few teams that really cater to visiting teams. Like most teams, they won't let you use the weight room. They'll, you'll have to set up your little janky shit in the hallway and like you can, you can use your weight rooms, cold plunge, you can do everything. Let me tell you, you retired before Golden State moved to the new arena? Yeah, I never played in that. Amazing. Really? I think they're trying to set it up where we can't win the game. Because it's so nice. Listen, they have, no they got live cooks back there for us. Wow. Like you can ask for whatever you want. Yeah, they're taking out orders for the visiting team. I'm like, yo, this is like, this is disalarmament. Like, y'all don't want us to win the game. It's too nice. By the way, Cuban said it was part of like his recruiting pitch where like, I want to see how, I want opposing players to see how I treat guys so they can get a feel where if they ever come here one day. Which is kind of brilliant. I think about it. See, I'm the opposite. Like no hot water. Turn off the hot water. I feel like that's what the Spurs do. Make it cold as hell in there. Is it weird though that the Spurs like own the Mavericks forever? Is that a weird thing? Is that? They'll start. Is that? It's in my, it's right here. Like, it's just right here. That's actually not what that said. That is not what's on this card. I see it. Sounded it out. Nah, nah. 2011, you know, best year of my life. I'm thinking with that. There's not a better championship in Texas than that one right there. The one, yeah. Jason Terry got the tattoo. It was more he even played, right? It was meant to be. That's a risky move, by the way. Yeah, it's like the riskiest move. Cause fans do it and we get fun of them when they get like super, super, but super bowl champs and you're like, and it never works. It never goes their way. So if we gave you 30 minutes in an NBA game tonight and but you can shoot as many shots, whatever. How many are you giving us? I'm playing 30. Who are we playing? Good question. You're playing the Detroit Pistons. We getting off. We getting off. I would say 30 minutes. Disrespectful. Cause nowadays, by the way, guys are taking 12, 15 threes. Yup. You're hoisting them. I'm playing that thing up. I would say I know it's my last game. You know, I'm playing the Detroit Pistons. I have a nice 15. Jackson. Nice 15. I love it. I'm coming off the roll and I'm spraying. Nope. Then I can catch two touchdowns. Well, here we go. And now it begins, doesn't it? I got the ball in my hands. I got the ball in my hands. We were talking about this actually before you got here. We're picking you up full court. I don't even play defense and I'm guarding you full court. I don't even play defense, he said. Yeah, I'm not gonna play defense. Screen, screen, screen. I need all the screens. Send me two screens. We getting off of those. I gotta see you hoot now. This is the argument. Cause they really think. There's NBA players that think they can play in the NFL as well. Well listen, I think if we're on the two-yard line, they throw it out. You don't think I can catch a ball over like a small quarter on the two-yard line. They will break the body. You don't play football? Never. I don't like contact. Okay. Look, nope. No. Right after flag all the time. Exactly. I didn't even play flag. I got scratched one time and I was like, no. Oh, you're the worst. You can play inside with air conditioning. Yeah, we get into the hole. We get into the free throw line and we jacking threes up, so. I like that. I quit football on the spot. I got hit going across the middle and I took my helmet off and my coach, he said, if you don't put that helmet back on, you're never playing for this team again. I said, don't worry. You never, yeah. Never put it on again? I swear to God, I quit on the spot. Yeah, that's not bad. I'm a legend in high school. I quit on the spot. Do you think you could really catch a touchdown pass? No, no, no. No, you know you can't. You don't think so? No. I respect professionals to the highest level. Everybody trained for what they're good at. I don't think so. Like I don't think you can walk in an NBA game, cold turkey and get 15 points. But if he's wide open for a corner three and he can shoot, he could probably make a jump shot. Because he's gonna be the football player on the basketball court and we're gonna take it personal. Chandler? I'm going to the hole. I'm getting fouled. Why has this not happened? Remember, I'll make some free throws. That's on my best day. This is my, I'm giving everything. You know what I'm saying? That's on your best day. Best day of my life. That's what I'm saying. On my best day, I'm catching a four yard pass. Okay. I think you're selling yourself short, man. You know what I'm like? Really? I like how you think. I think you're selling yourself short, man. Like how you think. I just asked somebody, could I still play in a Super Bowl? Oh, now it's the Super Bowl. It wasn't just a game. He's just said I'm selling myself short. So you went from I can't catch a touchdown to now you're in the Super Bowl. Because Jackson said I can and he knows better than all three of us. That's what makes sure I knew what the journey was for Lee Will on this one. You became all pro in a matter of seven minutes. In a matter of, what he did too? He's saying he gets 15 points. Yeah, that's fair. So we all even. I just think my height is an advantage for football. I think I can really post up in the end zone and tip it up and catch the ball. Yeah. I'm gonna try it with Joe Hayden. The most physical game he has. I'm gonna try it. I'm gonna post him up and I'm gonna get one right here. The most physical game there is you said you don't like contact. I'm talking a two-yard pass, Lee. I'm not talking. They're not gonna let you. It's more physical than basketball? Football, you know. That's what I'm saying. You tell us. It's constant contact with us, but it's not. You call fouls and you can't even hand check. There's flagrant fouls. Like you guys actually get like hit. Like do you hurt Monday morning getting out of bed? Yeah, I'm hurt. I mean you're still young too. Yeah, I'm hurting, but I'm not gonna lie. I played basketball last week and I didn't feel, I was hurting like bad. Just different kind of source. It's a different kind of story now. That's kind of nuts. All right, talk to us. Well, you're saying nobody else on the team hoops. So that's kind of like that. DK, that ought to be solid, right? He's just a big old muscle. He's too much muscle. He's like a wrestler, boxer or something. Good lord. He can get down on that block, I believe, but you know, other than that, I don't know. I've seen a shot. He might be too muscular. You see Miles Garrett in the all-star games dunking everything there. Miles Garrett can actually. He's actually solid. Miles Garrett can actually. He's solid. Yeah. See, I feel like this argument could go on forever. If football could play basketball or basketball it should be an all-star weekend. It really should. You think if LeBron, if he actually trained, he could become like a great tight end or a great receiver? I do. If someone like that build, that athleticism? I do. I do believe so. I think, man, AI, I've seen his highlights. But there's a lot of players. I think Russell Westbrook can play. I think there's a lot of guys in the league that can play. It's a very small pool level. There's a lot of guys that couldn't. But I think more so basketball can play football than football can play basketball. I like that. You heard it from him. The problem is one hit and you're dead. You just got to get that one catch. Yeah, that's the part I can't get over. I can't get over that. It's run deep. Yeah, that's the part I can't get over. Yeah, I don't even want to get pushed out of bounds into a camera man or nothing. I don't even want to be brushed by, close to another human being. Like, that sounds awesome to me. Right. Yeah, you might be nuts, dude. Speaking of touchdowns, I've always wanted to ask a football player this, when it comes to touchdown celebrations, do y'all rehearse? Like, what's- Oh, I love that. Is that something that y'all just build during practice or it's like, you know, after practice, 10 minutes, we got to get this down? Yeah. I mean, you got seven days to prepare, six days, five days to prepare for the next game. So, you know, in practice, you know, when you stand around, you got to make sure the TD celebration is right. In Seattle, we got, we got, we have some history of some good celebrations too, for sure. Is there any celebrations that you want to do that you just can't? Because it's risqué? Yeah, like, yeah, it's too much. You'll get behind, you're like... You can't dunk the football anymore. Really? Why not? I guess so. You can't dunk the football anymore. You can basically just... You can't like, throw the ball, like, chunk it up. I did it, you know, I said, I don't care, you know, I've always wanted to do it, so, yeah, fly. Is that just a penalty or is that a fine? Yeah, it's fine. That's fine. I was about to say, you get fine. Yeah, it's not a penalty. I don't think you get a penalty, you get fine, though, for chunking it up. Was it worth it? Yeah, okay, yeah. That one, you know. That one was worth it. That one was worth it. Do you feel like you guys have the best uniforms in the league? I do. Okay. I do. I think, you know, the blue and the green meshes real well. You know, my mother always gives me compliments every game that I'm drippin' out, so I think so. I would have to say so. See, that's the one. I think it's like one of the best ones, right-wise, if you're into it. And we're into fashion, obviously, if you look at us. Like, I mean... The all-time green is, you know, tough, but under the lights, when it's dark, I think they're... It pops. Yeah, for sure. And we got the old-school jerseys. I don't know if you've seen that. The throwbacks. We got the throwbacks. Yeah. Yeah, we're up there on the list, for sure. By the way, I thought you were gonna ask them about... I know you did ask them about the choreograph. We've asked no questions on the paper, by the way. Oh, do we want to ask real football questions? I got a real football question. We do have real football questions. You were the 20-years' pick in the first round of the draft. Walk me through that experience, because I got drafted, but I was the second rounder. I was in the ESPN zone. I watched myself get drafted in the lobby of ESPN zone by myself. So tell me, what was that experience like on draft there? Man, I was nervous, honestly. Just because you just don't know where to go. Y'all have experienced it. And I had my suit on. Just try to chill, relax with the family. And getting there, you have a... I could go here, I could go there. But it's nothing like when you get that phone call. They... I'll have three phones on me, and they end up calling the house phone that's like right there. I'm like, okay, I've been waiting all day, sweating. What were the other two phones for? I was waiting for them to call me, but, hey, you know what's... Stop it. I'm getting in trouble. Just wrapped up your rookie season. Congrats, by the way. Did you have a, oh shit, I'm in the NFL moment. My first pre-season game. First one? That was it. Got it out the way, and then I was... I felt like I was rolling from there. What happened, or just being there? Yeah, once I seen my family on the sidelines, you know, it was just... I was in awe, you know, in awe moment. Shed some tears, and now I was ready to play. Did you really? Who was your first game against? My first pre-season game was against Minnesota, and my first actual game was against the Rams. Was there anybody in Minnesota that you were looking at them like, damn, like I'm here, I get it? Mine was TMac. My first game was against the Houston Rockets, and by the time TMac was going in for the second time, I was going in the first time. So we walked to the table together, and TMac was like, what up, Lou? And I was like, damn, TMac know who I am. I was an 18-year-old kid. Did you have that moment? That's actually cool. I wouldn't say it for Minnesota, but our first actual game, we're in the huddle, and I see Aaron Donald, you know, getting their huddle, I'm like, oh, yeah, he big. Yeah, he big. Bigger in person. Yeah, he bigger in person. Yeah, was it like a moment where you also were like, okay, I can do this. Like, I belong here. Like, was there one play at practice maybe, or a pre-season, where you're like, okay, like, I'm gonna do this, and I'm gonna be really fucking good at it. Yeah, I would say practice. First practice, you know, caught a touchdown on like, I wanted to say it was like my first pass, honestly. Caught a touchdown, and then I was just feeling comfortable I practiced ever since. Everything went away. Like, this is easy. But the game is definitely different. I didn't feel like I got my groove really until the middle of the season, later on in the season, honestly. Man. And another thing you can't ever take for granted is a good coach. And you had a great coach, M.P. Carroll. Obviously he's gone now. What was the one thing that stood out that you learned from playing from him in your rookie season? Yeah, I just feel like what stood out to me is just, you know, once you stop moving, you know, you're dying. Like, he's always moving, always active. Okay. He was just a great person to be around. You know, he just cared about the team, cared about the organization and the impact that he, you know, left on me and the whole organization will be with us forever. And when there's a move like this, is there a comp, like, do you remember your last conversation with him? Did he address the team? Like, how did that kind of end? Yeah, he didn't address the full team, but, you know, he hit us up, you know, individually, whoever he did hit me up. And, you know, we talked for a little bit and hopefully he's around some more to still pick his brain and all that. My only question I have for that is he's 72 years old and he has more energy than I've ever had. Did he tell you his vitamin secret? Like, what does he do? What is the plan there? The coffee guy, what's the secret? Yeah, is it coffee, is it? I've never seen him drink any coffee, but man, I'll tell you, those meetings, he's electric. I've never in my life seen it. Jackson, this has been a pleasure. I know you're just starting out your Vegas radio row extravaganza. Are you prepared for the week that's about to be out here? I'm ready. I'm ready, let's go. Don't look at these two jackasses. They started out strong and they're already a mess. I hear you. I hear you. Good luck the rest of the way. Thanks, bro, appreciate you. Great talking to you all, man. Good luck, man. We're following you. Yes, sir. Good luck, bro. It's indeed. I'm like, aw, no, no, no, no, no. Now we got tape, huh?