 So we're here Checking out with Jake. Hey, what's up? Oh? With our display, so I'm taking a key from multi-taction. I'm doing hardware R&D without our displays, but we are how you doing I'm doing how are you? I'm fine. Thank you. What about you to a box? Yeah How many conferences did you go to video blogging it? Oh, man? We wait too many, but nowadays I'm Not blogging about it I'm actually playing with the stuff at at home. So I don't typically go this because you saw these Cool tray shows many cool text, but you're thinking hey, yes, we want to actually do it. I want to do it I don't want to just log about it or or play with them. I want to actually do it So that's what we do. We we do big ass touch screens and the purpose purpose is to build walls of touch and And how we do it is the best Best in the world you remember best in the world because you were you were looking at the let's say Windows and Android normal that stuff. You say hey, that's boring. Let's do something. Yes better the next level This is the next level. So we have normal LCD, but behind the LCD We have actually on each 55 in screen. We have 32 cameras. So we are blasting IR to your hands or or Or to pens or other object that you can use there and That's why it is the best in the world. We we actually see everything. So I can see we can see No, no, no, this is normal class and It's it's durable class and I have a code here And I put it here and I can open stuff. So it's it's really really Totally different than traditional touch if we go to a very small bezel the bezel is round four millimeters If there is a bezel it doesn't really matter if it's two three or four if it's there it's there But it's actually makes it really easy to make make this module so we can build as big like here We built it one for the Candy Crush That's 56 displays All this is like a TV show. Yes, and there's another one. So over 100 displays to get a working On a Candy Crush display or Candy Crush TV show so you can see them Actually actually touching the screen. Yes, and jumping on top of the Are they like the best Candy Crush players in the world? This is the best Candy Crush display in the world but we actually got a record on a The biggest touchscreen ever on this one. So this is a Guinness record I was going around one of the most modern museums in the world. Yeah, the Doha Oh, yes, you saw the Doha of Qatar. So there we have I think we have it here somewhere But we have a 45 displays. So 45 displays showing Missed it here. No, but yeah, Doha was it's really cool place. Is that the CIA? What was that? That's CIA. Yes, of course. No, I I I don't know what was that but we have a displays in a lot of museum a lot of corporate headquarters in learning places in and so you can Play or work with that also because we have our own software We can enable people to play more. So this is like a showcase software, so it's a data stream to show stuff to your customers or So the stuff that you're doing is pretty much like More than 8k sometimes yes, we can do 16k easily so so just having These modules together with one computer. We can we can easily Create walls with with over over 50 displays. So nothing nothing new on that 16 8k 8k is a piece of cake How do you how do you run it? The best thing would be 16k AI 5G And then it's cool. Yeah, that is cool because you know the people are catching up slowly. They try to do 4k Yes, yes far beyond that, but we have been doing 4k for years. So nothing new on that and Here you can actually see this product is called UMB a shiny one with a with a Normal glass like temperate glass surface, but here we have our XMV with anti-clear and gorilla glass. So if you come here This is a gorilla glass which is bonded to the system and again same thing. We can use We can use the same touch stuff and here this is our software called Canvas and that's for for collaboration and like mind-stirming and either sharing for the for the same same stuff to collaborate and mind-share and all that stuff is really important to be Perfect and great in the software integration. Yeah, how good is this? I think one of the key things here is Because it's based on our touch. It's it's like it just works But we have added so many things making it easier for different teams to collaborate together So this this can be live in several different offices. So it's real time in In many offices so you can share it without Traveling and we can also use the same software with other displays. So like here we have a Microsoft hub So you can also use anything on our software on other displays, of course It works best on the best touch screen, which is our our our display So it's like you can run it as an app on the windows. Yes, you can do that too and other platform too Yes, and what you run on yours This runs on windows or windows I windows I don't even know but like I said, I'm on hardware not software, but it's quite Quite it's quite This one is even set up on on either. What's the hardware we see here? Yeah, let's go behind So this hardware. Yep. So this is the display you can go come with me here Yeah, so typically we have some kind of frame or we install it straight on a fall wall But this is a curved frame nothing special just profiles and they're bolted together but Quite quite easy. No no fan noise. We have fans, but it's actually for for just to keep the air slowly moving So it's it's quite quite easy to ask of it. How do you assemble this you just build up the frame and then You raise the displays to like a hook. You can see there is a aluminium Hang it there. It's It's easy. That's the stuff I do Like I I I'm drawing this actual mechanical parts how they work and how they interact this these mounts are also from us and These are designed for these special screens and you just design it in a way that people can figure out how to put it together Yes, yes, at least I'm hoping that but yes, it's quite easy We will actually many times we install the displays for our clients So not me but but our guys go to the client put the displays on Software on everything so so you are in Finland and Helsinki Helsinki. Yes Is an amazing cool city, right? It is the most amazing and most most child-friendly city in the world They said last week on on some news the children can just run in the streets Yes, we don't let them run on the streets, but but other than that. We let them run free Yes, and we let the baby sleep out in winter without parents. So yes And now pretty much for sure. You're the best technology company in Finland, right? Because for sure. Yes, there's no Nokia anymore and they went anyway. So yeah, so that's pretty cool Hey, let's go to the table Table first then we grab actually So so of course some people may remember some Table stuff from Microsoft and others so we cannot also use our displays as a table You just put the legs in and that's it Oh, you can of course design a fancy table around it But but all these things work here and here we are demoing that we can use these markers Markets to do stuff. So it feels like very natural the way you're touching and where yeah It is it really the the key with us has always been that the customer needs to touch it And when when you use it the first time, you know why it is better than anything else on the market. So this is We are we are we are tracking the fingers the palms and everything before you touch You know that you are we know what's happening. Let's see if there is the technology No, no, no, where is the tech there? So you can actually see here what's happening So as we have the cameras behind the LCD we see the whole hand the palm everything So when you're doing stuff, we know that these are your hands and you are doing it And you are actually standing here like this one If I make it like this, I put my hand there it turns towards me So now if I go the other way, sorry It turns towards me again because it can see my whole hand So Also we have pens to write on so They they never go out of sync. So it knows this is a hand. This is a pen and and they cannot be How do you make that work with black magic? It's like I said, it's 16k AI 5g. We have all that You have some some pretty much exclusive IR kind of touch. Yes. Yes It's old. It's like what we were talking about this as a cutting edge is better than resistive from 10 years ago But this is the next step where you're going infrared. Yes So this is old stuff in a way, but we have been doing this over 10 years. So we have been advancing it We we can use now way much more processing power with like we have a small arm chips inside We have a have three of them actually so we can crunch the numbers so much better and our our system the The algorithm's rhythms to do this work so much better and then we'll keep working better and better every every year arms and One like Intel This because you kind of like merge the the stuff that the arm does to accelerate fully hardware acceleration Yes, even using the GPU in the arms Yeah, we used to have like a full PC inside the box now the arm chips are tiny like ready quite size chips And and everything is done locally and everything is running on that. Would you also have a server somewhere? Yes, of course the the video itself comes from the server So we have a server on that back room there and it's just connected with the show some more cool cool UI things You can do so it you can show some more cool different cool things You can yeah, so this is just a demo in the table stuff and and the object recognition, but Here here is a perfect demo normally on a phone you pinch and soon like this, right? We can do that, but we can also pinch and soon like this or like this so Because we see it it just works so much more natural It is it is good So are there like some high-end? Restaurants where people can order menu restaurants restaurants and museums and Education uses that but I think one of the new key things would be be corporate So having those huge displays to show big data or or or anything else that you need to see a lot of stuff at once So this is pretty much like the reception act like the big court. Yes, when you enter the reception you have But You have to put a limit you can't be too cool. No, there's no limit. There's unlimited touch So there can be thousand people now using this display or this together and there's absolutely no limitation You can add more blast at 200 Hertz So it will not go down no matter how many users there are and also with the displays We can use just one display or put 50 there of them together and Because these are modules. They are designed to work together and we can have it as a one touch surface And again with both Windows and Linux so but if you run 50 of them, you need a big server in the back room Yes, what how do you run this? How do you make this work? So there is like a quite a big Server with the latest and greatest processors. They might be for big installation there. There's like four GPUs all for running for 4k channels and we're combining the touch to them So it's really high and stuff like the one GPU can cost 4,000 So it's not a toy anymore But you're pretty much running a super computer. It is pretty much like that But but it's the GPU really that works not the not the CPU It's because this is intensively each of the modules are full HD. So so there's a lot of pixels All right, and you're getting every year with new or newer generation hardware. You're doing more and more stuff Yes, so yeah, so we manufacture everything else, but the actual LCD On ourselves. So every time we get the new new best stuff from from manufacturers like Samsung and LG We we we tend to go with that and build the better and better and because you have to take their panel Integrates, yes, and you have to work with all kinds of new technology that's coming out Yeah, you are looking into the future of tech. We are looking into that's why I'm actually here I'm looking into the future and and This is this our tech and our IP can be used on on so many different Sides of this deck. We can use it on the OLED on LED on whatever comes next. So that's that's the easy thing and and it's also One of the coolest things because this is like crazy Hard to do from scratch, but for us it's easy because we have been doing it so long. So, yeah It's crazy that there's a big companies in the US and they don't really know what what to do Yeah, yeah, you are like here in Finland and It's showing them how to do stuff. Well, actually I can I can check if our CEO is available No, it's not talking with him about the commercial side, but yeah, Finland is tiny country. So Maybe that's it, but we I think we sell quite a lot in US So that's for us a new new good. Let's try to check if he's a maybe about now is well. No, let's see Hey, so so what's the the big the big vision? What's the big what's what's your experience with the company? What's the latest? What's happening? What's happening in ten years from now five years from now five years from now? Wow You know unprepared answer is that you know I Think that These type of technology is becoming so adaptive that people you know They just go on the wall and start doing something and you don't need any like any minutes to learn what you do So you can do amazing things you can connect with your friends and you can you can connect with your business colleagues anywhere with any device This is where I believe that the technology takes us very soon and everything is very interactive very intuitive so so even the Even the education or the teaching process becomes more like you search information You are interactively all the time connected with things and instead of learning by heart you are Studying things on a go so so you search for information and and you connect those dots You work with the team and and and so you you get more productive in that way rather than individually doing stuff This is got to be an amazing story for the technologies sector of Finland right to the I'm just imagining here Can you tell some stories about how easy it is for you to convince customers to buy this solution because it's when it's big and it's Shiny yeah, and it's impressive. Yeah, it's got to be easy, right? Yeah, how do you pitch? How do you how I mean most people are visual and so instead of having some static things on the wall so we we wanted to make some guy lost in the space You know people are tempted To go and touch that's what we wanted to achieve. So So, you know, there's a meta meta rain Here so you can you can do things people want They have the child in their head. They want to touch and feel the things I think this is this is this is the way we differentiate from you know, many other Boots from here. So it's when you got that's all in you here when you got touch at Google or Microsoft the screen It's not natural. You want it's not easy to get Think the technology to feel like natural natural. Now you need to be brave enough to go to their booth for here it's It's like, you know, you touch and feel and basically when you come here you already know that Things are happening. It's not it's not like ruled by some kind of You know process this is intuitive. You don't have to learn the UI No, no, no, how do you develop this? How do you at the company? How do you have the the whole software to? UX and all this who's doing this? How do you make this? Oh, we you know, we are based in Finland So we have a small team Which is connected to our customers and so we have almost daily base, you know, discussing with our customers You know what they want. So everything What you see is based on customer feedback. So customers wanted to have a feature when they have their own business card and and you can easily open your own menu that includes your Your the stuff that you you want And so for me, I love whiskey so we have a customer Clean fetish which is utilizing the technology in an innovative way So the people have been on a tour in a visc, you know, the whiskey sellers they come back They take the whiskey they put the whiskey glass on the table and they see what they drink So it's sort of extending the experience You know with the technology. It's a very nice application that Clean fetish has done for their customers. Is it possible that also your customers won't always more and more? So they're like asking for 2.0 3.0 and just update more and more functionality. Yes, how can you deliver this? Do you have also partners you partner with to do more stuff or so most of the time? We develop based on the priorities that we have agreed with the customers now recently We have opened apis that allows customers to provide content there. So You know, we just had that api like few months ago. So we are trying to build an ecosystem where customers could Build easily content with their tools that they have you know The knowledge and then link their database in there and get up-to-date information exactly Very important points. So you can you can actually connect some some of your customer databases through those apis so that you have the native native information In a great way and also Is there in the next five years ten years potentially Vision to like dominate the world for your company or what's we want to be We want to be the software where people want to build their content and Share that content real time, you know, wherever they are and whatever devices they have whether it's a cell phone So you can hook yourself to this dialogue any device at any time So that's that's our vision. We're gonna be number one on that and JKK is also number one and Let's grab the mic sorry for me, of course as I do the hardware stuff being like creating the best possible materials best possible parts for To build the whole display and the display walls is the key So if you if you know my background and see my videos You know that that best can be the only option. Yes, this is the best in the world How's the compare with the Arcos? well, I Don't know if Arcos is making big screens. Maybe they do I remember the resistive touch tablets and they weren't really the best even one One friend of mine told everyone that they are the best, you know Because it's important to keep on resistive when other people are doing capacity That's similar. I don't want Will I don't I wouldn't compare us to them? We are very big I think it's because you got the You got the Gemini 400 or you got one of the Arcos is you said I want to make a big one Yes, maybe that's right. Yeah, maybe we have to think about the resistive touch again But right now the machine learning a machine vision and actually we have now some machine learning also there He is really the way. What does the machine learning do? We we do that good. It works. We have patented it and That's why I think I will continue doing that and it's great fun for me It's really not easy, but it makes make these things stick so It's a cool challenge to have it's cool challenge Yeah, especially now when we're going bigger bigger and but also same time smaller and smaller smaller pixel size smaller Maybe even smaller units but building bigger bigger walls so yeah multi-taction