 Good morning sir. How do you pronounce your names, Suthan? What is it? Suthan, what is the meaning of Suthan? Suthan does not seem to be, which language is this? Then it is in Tamil as well as in Hindi, it is called means sun sir. Sun. Sun means S-O-N-Sun or S-O-N-Sun or S-O-N-Sun. That is, okay, okay, okay, supposing it may not be. Okay sir. Alright, so, you had political science and international relations as your option. Yes sir. Okay, international relations have been changing over the years. Yes sir. So, when do you think, can you tell me the main landmark changes which have taken place? Let us say after World War II, okay, let us take World War II. When did the World War II take place? From which year to which year? 1939 to 1945 sir. Okay. So, from then onwards till now, there have been some very, very major changes in international relations. Sir. Can you very briefly tell that this happened and this happened and this happened and this happened and this is the present scenario and this is the direction in which international relationship is moving. Okay. Very briefly. Yeah, please. After the end of World War II, it seemed like we are moving towards more integration and the United Nations was a symbol representing that global communities were coming together. Thereafter, the two blocks, Soviet and capitalist blocks, they emerged and it created a sort of Cold War situation where there was no direct military conflicts but there were many other skirmishes and finally, with the disintegration of Soviet Union, we see the end of the Cold War and later we find the reemergence of a unipolar world where US dominates for a particular period of time. But this unipolarity did not last for long and soon we see that other fault lines are opening up like the terrorism and other global conflicts emerged and China's emergence has resulted in a challenge to US as well. So, now we are considering this era as somewhat of a unipolarity where there are various power centers. What polarity? Multi-polarity. Multi-polarity, yeah, that's what. So, the unipolarity of United States has been challenged and now we see a multi-polar world where various blocks like the European Union, Russia, China, India, they all or somewhere seek a balancing and counterposing some of the moves from United States. Which do you think is better, a multi-polar world or a bipolar world or unipolar world or which would be in the best interests of humanity? A more integrated world where there is respect for international law would be in the best interests of humanity. Why is it that international law is not working the way it should? With all the talk about equality, there is so much inequality which is becoming more and more serious. In fact, we are entering a kind of new imperialism of a very serious nature. So, where do you think it will lead us? The absence of global policemen to enforce the international norms that has been the major impediment. You see that the UNSC has been given the primary role to enforce any law and when UNSC members themselves, they go against any of the international norms. There are no concrete steps by which we can overcome the veto of any UN power. So, these superpowers, the global order, the international norms are dependent upon the will of these superpowers. Do you think someday the world will again become unipolar, China is the supreme power? Regarding unipolarity, in order to become a superpower, there is a theory where there are some basic conditions which a country should meet. For example, China does not have a lot of challenges from various power centers around it. For example, Russia, it is a neighbor of India as well as Russia. Both of them are a regional bloc and they are always counterposing China. When we take the example of United States, it was almost in the sole power in that continent. It did not have any regional tensions. So, then we have the challenge about China. It is not really China, it calls itself a democracy, but there are various criticism that it is imposing the will upon the people. So, there are various fault lines which can always be exploited and used to trigger tensions. And finally, China's population itself, if you see the GDP per capita, for a superpower, it does not really seem like China is immediately catching up with the western nations or United States per se. And the military expenditure as well. United States military expenditure is far, far more, almost three or four times more than China. So, all these have an impediment. Very good. Good answers. Yeah, please. Yeah, you have been serving in CRPF right now. Yes, ma'am. Can you tell about what day-to-day issues are you facing in the Sanjeevni Hill, which as an administrator you would have better solved it or better resolved the issues? You must be noticing the any kind of issues which a tribal community faces or the biodiversity in that region could be facing because of interventions or exploitation. I just know came to Sanjeevni Hill. You are not for a long time. I came only on last year, August. I was serving four years in Tante Vadam, actually. But here also the major conflict issue in Sanjeevni Hill has been man-animal conflict. So, we are having elephants primarily intruding into human habitats for the sake of fodder and this has been a major fault line in this area. And there have been also civilian casualties where villagers have got trampled and recently there was one incident where trucker was also trampled by an elephant. So, this creates some sort of fear among the people and they resent the intrusions. So, they are using somewhere the electric lines and all to fence their cultivations. Who is the victim here? Now, we are they are using DC currents ma'am. I am asking who is the victim according to you in this their conflict issue and the... The victim, we cannot conclude ma'am for example that breaker who went they did not know... I am asking about the human animal conflict. Yes ma'am. Both of them are sometimes at the receiving end ma'am. Sometimes we have seen... Who is occupying the others place? We are occupying the... Obviously the one which belongs to the place is not is a victim. I am sorry ma'am. Any take from your end about the union budget which was... The union budget which was presented yesterday has given tax exemptions, has revised the tax lapse, but we have to forego the exemptions. So, it seems to be more of giving options to the people. So, democracy itself is a choice. So, we have given choices you can choose this or that and you can exercise what options are seemingly beneficial to you and that it seems to be a consumption and demand slack in our Indian economy. So, this step where we have cut the income tax would put the money directly in the people's hand and this will result in a boost in expenditure and maybe demand cycle might pick up. Apart from that we have seen various measures for agriculture also. We have the boost irrigation, Pradhan Mantri, Sinsha Yojana, we have got no money and even for the cooperatives the tax structure has been brought on part with the other MNCs. So, all these seem to be... There is nothing wrong. They seem to be a progressive measure, but the way they work out we can only wait and see. One small thing. See, the way you are sitting like this, why do you sit like this? Right. Don't be very tense. This is the... even a little more, you know, like this. Yeah. Okay, sir. Okay. Practice it a little bit. Sir. When you sit like this, you know, it doesn't... Actually... Yeah. It looks a little too casual. Okay, sir. All right. What is V-logging? V-logging is video-logging, ma'am. Oh, okay. I am interested to know what is your take on the Shahin Bagh protest and as an administrator or the police official, how would you be managing the same issue if you would have been posted in Delhi? The Shahin Bagh protest has been primarily against the Citizenship Amendment Act, which has been brought about, ma'am. And there is a lot of misconsumption about the act. The act has been conceived to give citizenship to certain minority communities. We are not discussing about CAE at all. Okay. What is their misconception? How do you... How do you resolve the protest to be dissolved in people? Negotiations are the way forward. So, first... Right now there is no negotiation. There are negotiations, but we should intensify the negotiations. We should listen to all stakeholders and we should dispel with the fears because the suspicion is not about the content of that, but about the intent of that. So, we have to reach out to the participants. What is the reason there? Primarily, Muslim community is women, children and other students. All these... And other communities also, students all have gathered up in their mind. Sudeen Abdullah, since your hubby's chairs, can you tell me how many squares are there in the chess board? Sixty-four, sir. Like, there are small squares. How many squares you can form within the chess board? You are getting my question? Yes, sir. You have an idea about Sicilian defence in chess? Yes, sir. What is the move for Sicilian defence? Sicilian defence, we start with the horse, sir. Horse? Fine. Since your optional is PSIR, can you tell me what is nuclear peace? Nuclear peace... It's a theory where we are telling that the presence of nuclear weapons has created global peace because of the threat of mutually assured destruction and total nuclear annihilation. Nations have not gone for war with one another. Can you tell me the three pillars of nuclear non-proliferation treaty? The three pillars of nuclear non-proliferation treaty is the first is that you will be given technology for peaceful uses. Second, you should not use the technology for creating weapons and you should not proliferate this technology to other non-NPT compliant countries which can result in weapon procurement. Why a mobile phone is also called as a cell phone? Do you think this veto power of the UN Security Council is cuddling the decision making of UN? The veto power was one of the primary Russia joint only because the veto power was guaranteed to it. Otherwise, it would not have joined the UNSC. So, we need to go for UNSC veto power reforms because these 5 superpowers, they had the capability to enforce a decision and when we compare it with the League of Nations, there was equality among the nations but the law was not enforced because all the nations they were having equal power so they did not implement the decision as they desired. So, veto power reforms should be given sir and perhaps maybe in a year they can use only veto power 5 times or if only 5 percentage of times something should be created. You are speaking regarding that CAB bill, right? So, whether it is legally right for the center to direct the states to implement a bill like CAB? The citizenship is the central subject. So, when it is going for states or legally, it seems that bound to... It is a legally bound. Since you have Rinald Bailey, so you have an idea about Kudankulam protest. Yes sir. So, what is it about? So, Kudankulam protest were regarding the nuclear power plant which was established in Kudankulam and the people where local community were afraid of the implications of having a nuclear power plant. First initially they were asking for more compensation then later on environmental concerns were also sparked up. What kind of environmental concerns? One was regarding radiations and second it was regarding the waters temperature which was being discharged back into the sea. So, even the Supreme Court later instructed them to these Kudankulam administration to discharge the water at the temperature in which the sea level is only there because that area we are having lot of fishing communities. They were afraid that it would impact their livelihood. Water from the Kudankulam, it should not increase the water. Discharging water should be equal to the sea temperatures. There are coolants there. Coolants are usually fitted with P. After that also there was some variation. What Kudankulam is used in Kudankulam reactors? Not over sir. Do you know a concept of moderator in nuclear reactors? No sir, I am not exactly able to. How do you think we should combat the phenomena of fake news? Sir, fake news has become diversified. So, fake news is it is not from one person or from one organization. It has become decentralized. Anybody is being able to spread fake news. So, in order to counter this we should enhance people awareness. Only when a person knows what type of news we see, what type of pictures we see and when they develop a critical judgment. Only then we can be completely safe that we can counter such type of fake news and propaganda. Institutionally or nationally how can we stop fake news? Institutionally we can go for implementing technology driven solutions like artificial intelligence, machine learning and flaggings like community based flagging of a news that this seems to be something of a life fake, something like that we can institute. Yeah. Yeah. Mr. Suthal, you seems to be from Thirunelveli and Nagarkov. Last year, Supreme Court has given a major favor in favor of forest department with regard to a case in Thirunelveli. Right. Enforced forest land has been cleared by Supreme Court and asked the concerned company to hand over the land to the forest department. Have you any idea about the case? It's a land market. Sorry, sir. It's a land market. Sorry, sir. I am not acquainted. Computating the T-State tea company? Sir, I didn't follow. In Manjore? Manjore, I have heard, sir. That T-State company which was set up during British time? That is old story, sir. But now that T-State has been asked to vacate and give the land to the forest department. Sorry, sir. I will go and check. I have just given a ruling. Sorry, sir. Sorry, sir. I perhaps I was not in network zone at that time. Yeah. It's a major environmental judgment given by Supreme Court and a major advantage to the forest department. I will go and check on it, sir. Right. Have you heard of IPDES, an organization? IPDES? IPDES. IPDES. We are studying international policy and other things. International policy platform for biodiversity and ecosystem services. No, sir. I didn't hear. It has given a report recently. Okay, sir. It has been just three, four months ago, which is almost threatening the entire humanity about biodiversity. Have you read the report? I have heard about many threats from biodiversity. In general threats are okay, but this is particularly about human to humanity. No, sir. I didn't hear. They are completely unaware of it. Completely. Or at least are you aware of any multilateral environmental agreement? Multilateral environmental agreement. Yes. Paris climate change can be called on, sir. Then we had Kyoto protocol before that. Kyoto protocol is CBD. CBD. Then we have convention on biodiversity. It's not. That is what is CBD. Okay. Then we had the international panel on climate change. It is IPCC. IPCC is doing something. Then Ram sir sites. Good. Okay. We are having that. Right. You must also hearing about the news, the news about seizure of red scientist. Pardon me, sir. Red scientist. Yes, sir. Right. What is important? Why they are getting seized? What is the reason for it? It's smuggling happening. Red scientist is a... Why can't we grow them and sell them, like tea? What glances? Can we sell red scientist in the open market? No, sir. It is... Why not? Government can do that. Why not? What is actually the hitch there? Not ours. Have you heard of scientists? Another international committee? Yes sir. Convention on trade and endangered species. Endangered flora. Endangered flora. It is... It comes from the site. It is in the schedule. Any plant or animal in the schedule is in the site. Cannot trade. Okay, sir. Unless... It is permitted by special permission. Yes, sir. Okay. Sugar. We have specialized... Especially communication electronics. Yes, sir. Why do you choose this, Rajesh? It is of no... On top of the electronic communication all over the world. We don't want it. Sir. Why do you choose this world? Sir, in IS, we can... We have a lot of diversity and we have a lot of scope for policy implementation. And in the later stage, we can also formulate policies. And I have been in Dantavada and I have seen the administration... Like how much the civil administrative... District administration can play a great role. Like I can recall IS Thamboli, sirs. And IS O.P. Chaudhary, sir. They had actually revolutionized the face of education and health care in Bijapur and Dantavada. Which were actually left wing extremism affected districts. But now they are excelling in primary health care. And we have a enormous multi-speciality hospital which is almost catering to the entire southern Chattisgarh. That is the only reason you have... So, I am telling... It's all area. See, it is an electronic communication. Today you can go talk. Yes, given you a lot of things. Yes, sir. That means worldwide you can go. This is only for part of the place you can... But we are able to directly impact the lives of people and... Yes, it's good. Another thing, sir. When you are, for example, you are appointed as a collector. Yes, sir. Not in your own... If you say hometown, they won't... Some other place, like Chattisgarh. Okay, sir. There are two groups. Always you know, two groups are making it. You are on the spot. Okay? How do you tackle this one? They are having the gun with them. Each of them. Okay, sir. How do you tackle this? You need, like, an IPS officer for your health. Or you can directly go and... Necklace. No, sir. I will have my... IPS officer counterparts and... No, they have only... If they are only... Junior is in charge. He is also not there? Then... Are you not interested to come? Then I will directly go, sir. I will take the... My immediate junior with me. And I will ask the SHO to come to that place. And we will go and negotiate, sir, first. Necklace. We will try to segregate the two groups. We will not allow them to meet one another. So, I will send someone to that... To meet the other party. And I will try to go to this party. So that we just tell them and... Bize us some time. Meanwhile, we can get the... One more thing, sir. Last question I will ask you. See, you have gone for the... That's why it's the MA politics. Yes, sir. Political science. It's about... No. Now, today the government has taken... Some policies. Drainage policies. Yes, sir. Previous government also... Which will be a better... This one or previous one? Sir, we... In Indian foreign policy, we are seeing... Continuum as well as change, sir. So, though the government changes our policy... Does not pursue a change. We are recalibrating it only to certain extent. And our... That has been a specialty of Indian foreign policy, sir. And we have seen an aggressive foreign policy... Where we have been more assertive now recently. And this has given a strong message to the... Other international... In the international community that India can't be treated as a pushover. Earlier India used to be called as a soft state. Because even after the 26-11 attacks, It seemed that India would go for some retaliatory actions. But we chose to go for other indirect measures... To put pressure on India. Which has been beneficial. Like the FATF grey listing now. That was the consequence of that. But now if it is there... Why we are against Pakistan and Sri Lanka? Even recently, Nepal. Nepal is prone to China. We can think about the Mandel theory... Which was given by Chanakya also, sir. So, he tells that our immediate neighbour... Will always be our enemy, sir. Because we will always have some boundary issues. Your brother and yourself will be always enemy. It's theories, sir. Mandel theory in politics. They are telling that... So, the neighbour of your neighbour... Is there which theory you will... It's a policy. The rule. Divide and rule. Unite and rule. Yes, a collector. Even you are appointed. Which way you prepare? Unite and rule is much better, sir. You see? It gives the result immediately. Divide and rule gives you immediately the result. Divide and rule will give us immediate results, sir. But in the long term, people will understand that... You are exploiting them. You are using them. That's what today that part in policy we are making it. That's what you told. I am not telling. Sir, we are not dividing and ruling. We are actually trying to become more assertive. That people... The neighbouring country should not take us for granted. Because we had the Gujarat... We have national interest. We have divided Pakistan and Bangladesh. This our national interest only we divided. We divided rule policy. We divided. And now we are ruling it. Domestic compulsions of Bangladesh resulted in that partition, sir. India because of its refugee crisis and because the people were... Yeah, yeah. It's okay. Sir? I will give you what I have written and others could contribute. So I find you to be very good. Your voice is good. Appearance is good. English is good. Communication skills are good. You are by and large restricting yourself to the question. Except that I found that when he asked the question about veto, his question was different from your answer. You slightly shifted the subject. What he asked was, has veto been a hindrance to taking decisions? Yes, sir. You turned it into how the system of veto can be improved. That was not his question. Okay, sir. But among the candidates that I generally have trained and encountered, you are quite, you are on the right side of giving correct answers, restricting them. You are not talking too much. You are not talking too less. So I would rate you very highly as a candidate. This is my observation. Others can share. Yeah. I think with the current affairs, be sure what is happening and what should be your take. Okay, ma'am. Neutral or whatever is the perspective, give your opinion based on that. And apart from that, I was surprised that you didn't know about the issues which are happening in... Especially as an environment. Yeah, environmentally because Tirunelveli is known and people sitting in Delhi also are aware. Yes, ma'am. So you should be knowledgeable about what has happened and what is in news. I'll go through, ma'am. Yeah, one small thing. Don't quote Chanakya unless you are very sure about it. That's what I... Suddenly somebody may be sitting there and you may say, okay, you seem to be very familiar, very thorough with Chanakya. So tell me this. And you'll unnecessarily get into it. Okay. Be very cautious. See, what happens is... I was telling you, you have told the same thing. Yeah. See, what happens is... At that time, what happens is... Now, this is where you have to train yourself. You know, when I train people, I conduct... Now I've started conducting separate classes apart from the mock interviews and this is what I'm trying to train them. You know, bigger danger is to say something which is not relevant. If you don't say something which is relevant, doesn't matter. Okay? But bigger danger is when you say something and they'll immediately come to the front. Okay? Don't use this type of things. Chanakya can be very dangerous. Yes. Yeah. So to add to what Saran and I were telling, this veto point, like, exactly you diverged from the question. Okay. You were giving your own views on what you know about veto, but you should stick to the question. Yeah. And there's something on basics of electronics you should know why mobile phone is called a cell phone. This range, you know, that base is called a cell. It's an hexagonal cell shape. Yes, sir. Okay. So I was about to ask why it is hexagon, why it is not circle. But since you couldn't answer this, I couldn't go further. You see something regarding why silicon, Germanium, why silicon is used, why IT hardware is not developed in India. And regarding this nuclear piece, a game theory, you are good. Okay. Regarding pillars of NPT, you are good. Regarding coolant, coolant is a VBER reactor. It is a water cooled, water moderated energy reactor. So you should know what is coolant. Coolant, I think you know. What is moderator, you should know. And one thing, you should not use the word you in interview. You should not use second person in interview. Once you are addressing sir, you are telling, you are using the word you. Okay. Should use third person, should tell if one goes. Okay. I think you are telling if you go there, something like that you are telling. The word you should not be used anywhere in India. Okay, sir. And regarding centers, direction to state and regarding that thing you are right. Conceptually and overall your presentation personalities are very good. Please try to maintain it. Some facts regarding electronics. Okay. I think what she has already addressed. No, I go to say really good. Go for an interview. When is the interview? February 20th, sir. 20th. We have to go with the port time. Sure, sir. Of course, if they ask you to climb it, you can come. That will be a best thing. And be strict. You are chairman. You are always leaning. Very good. How is your good? Very good. Confident you have got it? You are telling it? Correct time, sir? Sometimes don't. Yes. If you do not know, that's all. What are these combinations? Sudhan, Abdullah. Nearly. Sudhan is a typical biblical name. Abdullah is a typical Islam name. That happens in Kanyakumari. Kanyakumari, you know, you will have a Gopala Christian who is a Christian. Dennis, who is a Hindu. But they keep it like that. That is typical of Kanyakumari. I was SP there. Just like that, what you say. Okay, I will read out what I have written. If you would like to exchange to be made, please let me know. I have written. So then the following are our observations as a mock board. Your appearance, your voice, your language skill and communication skill are good. This is a big plus point for you. You know, once your communication skill is good, halfway through your speech. You are sitting posture, as was pointed out, is a little too relaxed. Please practice. Okay, sir. You tackle the question and polarity among nations well. On the question of Shaheen Bagh, you do well to clearly criticize the approach. Okay. Okay, sir. Since the law has been passed by the parliament and not declared invalid by the Supreme Court, you have to accept it without any doubt. Yes, sir. You understand? You must be very clear. You may have your own feelings. I may think this is an unjust law, but this is a law passed by the parliament and the court has not struck it down. Yes, sir. Which means that this is a law that all of us have to obey. Now, when that is the case, you know, for a large number of people and that will be a particular religious community and blocking a road for so many days, this is something which you have to clearly criticize. You should not at all have any doubt. Especially since you are a Muslim, you will be asked this question. You could be asked this question and any kind of hesitation will be... I think it's a Christian, sir. That's why I asked this question. But names? Abdullah. Okay. That is why I asked this question. But everybody will take you as a Muslim, I tell you. Yeah, we will ask you a question. From your name, they may take you as a Muslim. Okay? It is very, very clear in your mind. Okay? Okay, sir. You have to be absolutely clear. As much as Shaheen Baal, you should say, sir, this is illegal. Illegal. That's all. Okay, sir. Why is it illegal? Why don't they have the right to protest? Right to protest is different, but you cannot be blocking a road and preventing others from carrying on their normal activity. Yes, sir. And plus, when you do this kind of a thing, you are creating potential for communal writing. Yes, sir. You understand? So, you have to be very, very clear in your... And that question about this, you know, I'll come to that also. On the question of veto, veto, you are not clear. The question was whether veto has been hindrance to decision making. You focused on how use of veto can be reformed. So, you slightly shifted the focus of the question. You know, what is it? It's a tricky question. Has veto hindered decision making? Yes, but for the good of humanity. Okay? Why was veto created? Veto has created only for this purpose, so that in case of doubt, we should not interfere. That is the purpose of veto, because once the superpowers begin to act on one side or one side or the other, it can create a world war again. So, if there is a doubt, if one of the veto powers says no, then it is no. Yes, sir. So, you should have said yes, it is hindrance, but then it is in the overall interest of humanity. Okay. And it is necessary. Okay? Yes, sir. Then your answer on fake news was good. You analyzed it very nicely. So, too was your answer about joining IES. In IES, you can be very firm. You can be very clear. So, this is my desire. Because it's your career, you know. You tell, I will be able to serve this society. That's all. But then, you know, we are not civil servants. We have our own life also. We have our ambitions. We have our desires. There is something which gives us fulfillment. I would like to do that. You understand? Okay. Somebody may even say, then why did you join the, join the communication, etc. Yes, I wanted to learn that also. I wanted to get that degree. Another thing is there, you know. See, when your people will ask, will it not go waste? No, it will not go waste. Because, see, some of the trainees, you know, when I'm training them, they say that, because as an engineer, I will be able to do this. I'll be able to do that. No, nothing. Are you going to climb up the pole and separate things? You're not going to do that. But what happens is, engineering degree gives you certain skills. Yes. It teaches you how to define a project, how to study late, how to monitor it. You understand? So, give answers like that, very clear in your mind. Okay. Don't seem to be defensive. The moment he asks, why don't you do this? Why do you want to join IES? Yes, sir. I want to join IES. This is my ambition. This has been my ambition since childhood. Okay. Don't start becoming defensive. Okay, sir. All right. So, this is what I've written. If anyone would like to, then you know, you could not answer some questions related to organizations dealing with annoyement protection. That you should, I think... No, sir. No, my talent project is quite fine. God will bless you. Okay. Anything you would like to add to this? Okay, sir. You are absolutely correct. Oh. Thanks a lot. Okay. Thank you, sir. You're welcome. Thank you, sir. You're welcome. Thank you, sir. You're welcome.