 The radical Fundamental principles of freedom rational self-interest and Individual rights This is the Iran brook show. Hey, everybody You hear me now You hear me now All right, I Think we made it work. It works Sorry guys. I have no idea what happened. Anyway, it turns out that sometimes Rebooting your computer is just a good idea and it's starting over wiping everything clean getting everything new Maybe you should do that before if you show Something just happened. It's not why didn't that open? All right. I'm suspicious The more bad stuff is happening. I think I've got a computer problem here. Word is like crashing now I can't keep word up All right, let's see. We'll open Hmm don't know. All right. Anyway It's it sounds good now. We've got good sound and there's a lot to talk about and Super chat, I'm not sure how super just gonna work today because I Can't open any word doc. All right, we're gonna open up a notes page and Take it from there. I did manage. I think to copy all the previous Questions on to a Unto a word document so once I guess word going we can use that it just won't be today. So Will We will the questions you asked if you want them today, you're gonna have to ask them again Otherwise, they're gonna go. Okay. Anyway, I'm back from Ocon. It was a great conference It was fantastic meeting many of you there. That was a lot of fun Thank you for all of you came up and and and thank me and and express your support Thanks everybody came up and You know and and You know showed your support. I really appreciate that. So so thanks guys My sidekick could also double as a studio producer Sidekick would not be in my studio part of their challenge of having a sidekick is it would have to be remote There's not going to be anything anybody here. I mean the producer the issue here was basically The need to reboot the computer after a week of not being here. So I don't know right it's It's working. That's what's important all right a few a Few things thanks for the support guys a few things So I have been Somebody at the conference came up to me and said one came up to me at the conference and said look All this talk about money in the middle of the show It's distracting It's cheapens the show for those of us who watch a show later It's not that engaging because you're really interacting with the chat and the fact is that the minority of people watch it live Most people watch watch it later and then a lot of people Listen to it on podcasts. They don't even watch it. So it's just it's just distracting See said look, I'll pay you Not to discuss money in the middle of the show at the beginning at the end but nothing in the middle which means Ali has to be on her own. It's all up to Ali to raise the money and you just need a shut up So it doesn't mean not interacting with the super chat or with the with the chat board It just means not asking for money. Hey, we're $200. 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She's on the chat. She will remind you She will keep track of how far we're going. I will not remind you and that is All I have to say about the intro Landon says everyone should come to Ocon 2022 and play Iran at poker. Yes, you should There was an unexpected that was an unexpected blast Iran is right less solicitation would increase viewers. Okay was soliciting less by the way, I almost won at poker but I was beaten by by by Robby seglan his son who colluded it was clear collusion and illegal in my view But but it was collusion nonetheless Michael asked. Did you save all the super chat questions before rebooting? I did I did save them there on my super chat document Which I saved but I cannot open it right now because my computer is giving me problems So I might not be able to get to them today. I'll get to them On a future show. So they're all on a Word document and I'll have to I'll have to Figure out how to do that Anyway, Ocon was fantastic. I encourage all of you to come next year It's in Washington, DC over the July 4th weekend. So it's that's particularly exciting You can you can already sign up. I think they're probably deep discounts the early you sign up the the big of the discount Ocon was a focused on a celebration of Opa Objectivism the philosophy of I ran by Lena Peacock and Which is of course a an amazing amazing book I did the keynote lecture on the value of Opa when it comes up online I hope all of you will watch it. I will definitely have it on my channel and it'll be accessible to you on the channel as well I Thought it was a good talk. I was pretty nervous Before I gave the talk after all it was a talk about Peacock and Opa and you know my hero and And that is always a challenge. You want to live up to that? Yay all the super chats have come back Michael so No need to reapply them. I've got them and I know Michael asked to and Daniel asked one I'll I'll get to that. I'll get to the super chat questions in a little while But Ocon was really terrific a Lot of good lectures a lot of good camaraderie I think people had a blast a lot of first-timers had a lot of fun and Somebody say Lannis is a lot of math and finance PhDs at Ocon I don't know if they were at the poker tournament. It was an actual poker tournament very worthwhile, but it was You know, generally it was a terrific a terrific conference Dave Dave It says air eyes solid team of intellectual movement is unstoppable. I agree, but Dave you weren't at the conference Where were you you should have come to Ocon? God you guys should come to Ocon. I mean a man Well, we'll do next year is If you promise to come to Ocon will do like a special event for You on book show listeners will do like I'll get them to set some time aside And we'll do like a a special Q&A or a special Live show from the from the main stage for your on book show listeners, so that'll be fun. So hopefully Hopefully you can come. I know a lot of you were there but I Think more of you can come and again Washington DC end of June early July next year going into I think it starts July 2nd or something covers July 4th. So July 4th will be a blast. It'll be a good time I can do my annual emotional inspiring July 4th show from the conference for For everybody a lot of good speeches. I like we saw a play Monavanna one of my favorite plays we saw a live performance of the play by Austin Shakespeare. It was it was terrific and Yeah, I hope I hope those of you who were there enjoyed as much as I do and I'm excited about it Dave. He says I'm so eager for you to your review of saving private life, right? I will get to it. It's I've already rented it on Eye tunes and my wife has agreed to watch it with me. So I think this week will be watching it and There were about 400 people at Ocon about 200 people virtual But people coming in and out. So I don't know that at any given point there were 400, but there were 400 in and out over the week at the various events, so It was great. Even Micah malice Showed up at the poker tournament. So For what's that worth afford it to it? I might be doing Micah Malice's show soon So I might be on his podcast soon. So stay tuned for that as well. That that should be interesting Let's see All right, let's so so yeah, I want to say one more thing This show was the conference was there in Austin, Texas One of the amazing things that's happening is that the entire objective is movement is moving to Austin You know Dave, I know Dave Goodman. I know you you think you're moving to Miami skip Miami skip Miami Austin is the Austin is the praise Austin is the center of Objectivism today, it's it's truly amazing I'd say I don't know Half of our intellectuals today live in Austin much of the Ironman Institute staff lives in Austin and just Regular people people that I've known for years have recently moved to Austin. So we are seeing more and more people in Austin, Texas and And and that's exciting Austin Of course is the place where I lived when I first came to the United States. I spent six years in Austin It is a great city. It is a wonderful place to live particularly if you can leave in the summer and not stay there It has it has great music. It has a film festival. It is creative It has Mount it has, you know hills. It's green. It has a lake. It has water It has a nudist beach. It has great restaurants. It just has everything going for it so move to Austin, maybe we can create a a Objectivist hub in Austin. Oh, no, Austin is much nicer than Houston. Houston is a massive flat uninteresting city Austin is young and exciting and very culturally active opera and concerts and plays and Ballet and really everything really everything. Yeah, it has a nudist beach. Thessie. It does Um on the lake Lake Travis, it's called the hippie hollow to all the hippies go and It doesn't get quite as humid as Houston, but it is human Houston is in a in a category of itself with New Orleans and South coastal Alabama and places like that. So Austin is high tech. It's a university town. It's young. It really is It's one of the best places in the world to live So move over to Austin. Come on guys and Anyway, I'm excited about the fact that so many people in Austin that way I can stay in Puerto Rico, but I can visit And I can visit you in Austin when you're there And uh, the other thing, uh, they were recommended to me in terms of the show Nobody paid me to do this is that I need a foot Move further back that I get too close to camera that I need to move further back and and talk from here So I'm gonna try that I need to get like a something between me and the desk to separate me But uh, we'll do that because this I think this distance is probably better For the video and uh, let me know. Let me know. Uh, what you guys think So, um, Austin, Texas is a great city. Uh, Ocon was fantastic And I was all excited about Texas. Yes. Go, Texas You don't know, uh, there were no mass requirements almost anyway Some private businesses, but generally Austin, um, Texas and Texas more broadly But then then I don't think I need a clip on mic because the mic is right here right here And you can still hear me. I don't think I don't think there's any problem with, um With the sound I do have a clip on mic, but the mic I have here is much better than the clip on mic So I'd like to keep it. Anyway, I can stand back here You can still hear me and uh, and we still have the microphone Anyway, um, I was all excited about Austin excited about Texas. I'm generally a fan of Texas And then the Texas legislature and and the governor had to go sign the subortion bill Which reinforces all the bad stuff about Texas bible belt primitive Backward religious Just Just horrible, right? um The subortion ban is um on multiple level It particularly disgusting and awful. It's the worst I've ever seen. I can't think of a law in the way this is structured right now that Is setting a worse precedent um It's both ignorant and evil and and it's just an anti-constitutional and just not not just unconstitutional anti-constitutional Now what does the law actually say? I mean the two Parts of the law the first is is straight out We want to limit abortion. So the first is You can't have an abortion after 15 weeks Heartbeat law once you can hear the heartbeat And uh, depending on science that might change over time when you can actually hear a heartbeat uh Abortion is banned as soon as you can hear a heartbeat So tell with the mother's life Tell with the plans Tell with everything Many women don't know that they're pregnant Before there is a heartbeat before there's 15 months So tell with mothers, uh, women's, um You know, uh Responsibility for own body Uh, uh, tell with the idea that uh a woman is an autonomous entity No, she has to basically be a uh service of parasite for a uh for the feeders who Has rights when she doesn't So she has no right to determine what happens with her body No right to determine what happens With a clump of cells inside her body No, right Even though she is an actual human being we must sacrifice this actual human being for a potential human being Why on what basis by what standard? Well, by the standard of altruism By the standard of revelation By the standard of some religious guy decided That light begins in conception human light begins at conception And therefore human life might must be protected from conception But that is nonsense a clump of cells One month two months It's not a human being. It's a clump of cells It's alive like all your cells are alive Yes, six weeks. You're right. Sorry six weeks six weeks is heartbeat so Women who do not want to have the child Will be forced to carry to tomb because they did not They did not act in time before six weeks because they didn't know they were pregnant six weeks Is not human life in any meaningful sense It is a clump of cells organized around having a heart Lots of animals have a heart That doesn't make you human Now in my view abortions should be legal if even if one could argue it's immoral Up until birth And you couldn't argue You could argue About the last trimester But six weeks is absurd. It is ridiculous. It's immoral. It's just giving in To nutty religionists. What makes a heartbeat? A human life Why does a heartbeat make a difference? It doesn't it's just one more step towards banning abortion altogether Of course, some of the consequences are that You know the the abortion pill the pill that you take after you have sex I guess in a few days afterwards It uh, it aborts the fetus a demand for that pill pill has gone through the roof I mean we won't now take this pill right after sex every time why even risk it? Why wait six weeks? Who knows What the consequence of significant increased use Of these pills is going to have Abortion is completely moral It is the pursuit of your life It is a choice that you make about how to deal with your body your life your future and and the potential child's future If you don't want it What kind of childhood is it's gonna have? What kind of life is it gonna have? I'm not even talking about the fact that some Talking about the fact that children with genetic problems children that can never have a proper life children that might Grow up in constant pain deformed crippled whatever So what we have Is taxes declaring That In the name of what? In the name of religion You do not have any more control over your own life. You do not any more control Over your own body. You do not have any more control Over your own future Now I think this is the way the court's supreme court was getting Anyway I think in that sense rovers's wade is dead I think it is Just a matter of time now Before abortion becomes illegal in certain states like texas Luckily, there are states Call them blue states Where abortion will remain legal but It's gonna get tougher and tougher Women who who are get pregnant will have to travel further and further Many more women will have illegal abortions Will have um, you know Back of the uh The alley abortions Putting the the women's life at risk and the doc the doctors of course Uh at risk of going to jail I mean the consequences of outlawing abortion are particularly Horrific For women for children for doctors who are willing to do abortions And of course what you're gonna see is You're gonna see people driving long distances in order to get their abortion done because this will be Left to state law to determine so the supreme court will punt us They won't rule for abortion or against abortion. They will just say Make leave it to democracy democracy. We'll let the majority decide Let the majority decide I mean it is truly medieval primitive And um and a consequence of altruism. It's okay to sacrifice Sacrifice the living for the unliving Sacrifice the actual for the potential But you know that shouldn't surprise you and of course knowledge doesn't come from reason doesn't come from science nobody's interested in the science of A fetus of three months what they're interested in is in revelation God said I don't even know where God said it exactly, but somebody said some pope said some Authority some religious authority said somewhere at some point The light begins a conception that uh that abortion is Wrong and evil and everybody follows. Why is abortion wrong and evil? They don't know They don't know. Yes, I suspect God never said it, but of course God doesn't exist Of course God never said it, but somebody said it doesn't matter who exactly said it All that matters is that people believe that that somebody is an authority That is a religious mentality It's a mentality of authoritarianism. It's a mentality of accepting something based on authority But there's a sense in which the second part of this bill out of texas is even worse than just the straight opposition to Abortion Because second part of the second part of the bill basically says as I understand it that anybody who Does an abortion facilitates an abortion aides In doing an abortion aides in bringing a person to an abortion Is liable not criminally because they can't do that because uh Abortion is still legal in the united states based on rovers's weight But it's liable civilly. They can be sued Not by the government Again, that would be protected under rovers's weight, but privately by individuals anybody Anybody can sue This is bryan says it's the right to version of social justice This is much more much worse than social justice The social justice warriors can harass you They can and they can do real damage to your life by harassing you by going to your employer By putting pressure on people not to employ you by all of that stuff. It is really really really bad But this is worse Because this is the ability to sue somebody Let's say you're an uber driver And as I understand it you take a woman to the clinic to get an abortion Joe schmoe who lives in texas can sue you Indeed there's an entire website dedicated to File an lawsuit against an abortion clinic against plant peridot against doctors against uber drivers against Anybody anybody Who's assisted the abortion? Anybody who assisted the woman in getting an abortion? Now this is using the legal system in a perverted distorted disgusting way Thessie, thank you apollo. Thank you. It's a complete perversion of justice And our legal system prevents you from suing somebody unless you Can show that you were impacted you have to have in our legal system generally standing in order to sue standing means The the the thing that happened has to have affected you in some way Basically what this law does is it gives everybody standing now imagine If this was the left and they said you can sue anybody Who speaks ill of you Anybody who you find insulting now there you at least have caused because It's you you insulted You can sue anybody for doing anything that you find immoral that you find offensive That's basically what this law says Apply to abortion. I mean if this law is accepted And the supreme court has refused to deny it yet. It's still going to go up to the law to to to it so This is Put it mildly insanity a complete Distortion a perversion of our legal system Giving random people power of other people's lives Why because they disagree with them? It's a violation of our freedoms it is Not just unconstitutional and I don't know what provision of constitution we have to go with by But it's anti-constitutional because it goes against everything that the constitution stands who represents Yeah, adam says even selling gas to a woman who is driving to new mexico Will subject the gas seller to ruinous lawsuits. There is no way any sane woman will move to austin Uh, no will any sane heterosexual male. That's a quick way to kill the objective movement it is sick That this would pass this law the republicans Or anybody would pass this republicans who say they care about the rule of law republicans who claim to stand by the constitution this Eliminates the well Eliminates the relevance of a constitution It wipes out the meaning of the constitution It's complete insanity And people say you're on you should attack only the left don't attack the right only the left Because they're the real evil destroying this country Well, not in texas. I'll tell you in texas the real evil destroying texas is the right. It's these religious fanatics It's laws like this Yes, I know best vague hank that we don't have a constitution anymore The left and the right have destroyed it eviscerated empty it of content Now we will see if the supreme court upholds this law We will see if five So-called originalists six conservatives Well, actually actually think this is legitimate law We will see whether they're willing to uphold the right of a woman to have an abortion Probably not in the end, but whether they would tolerate a law like this I can't imagine it. I still hope that the supreme court will rule against it a a Lower court is already ruled against it. So right now No more lawsuits. Oh, and here's one go daddy go daddy has Announced that it will not host the website of the non for profit That is encouraging the lawsuits and actually creating a list Of names of people who want to sue and facilitating the lawsuits. So here's an example where I commend A web a web platform for de-platforming A website It is so disgusting. It is so absurd. It is so ridiculous. It is so anti everything this country stands for That yes, it's good to know that there are some people in the technology business who are willing to de-platform a site So that they can't facilitate this madness Come here Sue sue whoever you want. Here's is a list of people who are facilitating abortions sue them randomly It's a good for go daddy for for cancelling This website I can't remember the name of the website. I'll get it for you, but Oh wait, I have to have to all this stuff I Closed the other news article. I wanted to read to you Alan Doshowitz by the way Some of you like Alan Doshowitz. Some of you hate Dr. Wendt. I'm not a big fan But Alan Doshowitz actually has a good op-ed On the texas lawsuit and he's on this he's good so You know the he basically says the texas abortion ban is unconstitutional you can find that I'll tell you in a minute where it's published But it's it's definitely worth reading Let's see it's in newsweek.com newsweek.com So texas law is unconstitutional Alan Doshowitz And uh, yeah, he has some of the details about what it entails But there was all right, so Let me just see. All right, there we go All right, now that brings me to this story about covet Which I'm not going to talk about too much about covet today. And by the way because covet is in the title of the youtube We have We have a warning from the cdc to let you know that you should really look at the who A warning from twitter. You should look at the who when it comes to When it comes to cdc somebody said didn't Doshowitz defend epstein Yeah, and Doshowitz was a good friend of epstein and Doshowitz is accused Of raping some of the women in epstein's thing. So Doshowitz is no But he was a huge trump fan huge trump supporter So a lot of you like him because he supported trump So um in the context of religion and the south and in this case you know, we we're going for abortion to covet because Religion is screwing people over in both cases So let's talk about covet. So, um Mississippi governor tate reeves. This is the governor of mississippi Uh, he said and i'm quoting I've often asked i'm often asked by some of my friends on the other side of the aisle about covet And why does it seem like folks in mississippi and maybe in the mid-south? uh A little less scared shall we say he goes on When you believe in eternal life When you believe that living on this earth is but a blimp on a screen That you don't have to be so scared of things He added Now god also tells us to take necessary precautions And we all have an opportunity and ability to do that and we should all do that I encourage everybody to do that but the reality is They're working together. We can get beyond this. We can move forward. We can move on Yeah, we can move on to the afterlife Let me repeat the key sentence When you believe in eternal life When you believe that living on this earth is but a blimp on the screen Then you don't have to be so scared of things All right, I've always wondered if people believe that heaven is so wonderful Why don't they commit suicide or why why why are they sad when people die? If if things on the other side are so wonderful If heaven if they're so confident of heaven, why is anybody afraid of dying? Who's religious? So this is what we face in this country We face a religion that would ban And a religion and a right wing that would ban A woman's ability to have an abortion That would institute laws That basically create complete havoc with our legal system A lot of people to sue anybody that behaves in ways That the powers to view you as inappropriate in this case the inappropriate behavior as abortion could be any other inappropriate behavior as you know, I believe anyway, so we have a right a right that believes that Shouldn't worry about too much about covid because after all This is just life here is just a blimp. I mean the real interesting stuff The real fun stuff the real important stuff happens in the next life So what's the big deal? Why be afraid Don't worry be happy covid smove it if god wants you to die then god wants you to die And you should just embrace it We have a right that is dominated by religion That is intolerance of alternative views That is not just want to argue But wants to force wants to force itself On all of us He says you seem to have just been gaslighted. I gaslighting Learned what gaslighting is. Is it possible? You don't see woke as real evil because you haven't heard of their tactics Um, no, I I do see woke as a real evil. Why don't I see woke as real evil? I was just getting in there actually. I was just about to say and you have the left with its woke culture and cancelled culture And new puritanism You have to say only what they accept You have to behave in ways that Only they approve of You have to get permission Or just don't do anything and then you can avoid it all You have a religious left that has its code Of commandments of what's acceptable and what is not You have a religious right that it has its codes and commandments And we the individuals we don't matter We don't have a say in any of this There's a good essay in the Atlantic I think it's this month. I think it's the lead essay in the Atlantic Atlantic left magazine The lead essay in the Atlantic this month is called the new puritans And it is a broadside attack On the new attitude at our universities and our cultural institutions all across the board Where people have to behave in a certain way And there's no due process If they don't behave in this particular way out they go and While most people don't necessarily accept this new puritanism they keep quiet because they're afraid so People who might have touched somebody okay, you know, I hugged her when I shouldn't have hugged her Sorry is not acceptable If you do it you have to lose your job Get sued for sexual harassment Never published another academic paper Ann Eppelbaum who I'm pretty sure is a lefty Documents over and over again the professors who said the wrong thing or didn't even say the wrong thing Allow somebody who published in their magazine Did a podcast unrelated to what they were doing and said something inappropriate And they get blamed because they published An article By the person who said something that's inappropriate. I've talked about this before on shows And you can go on and on and on in terms of the the kind of the the attitude of the left today is like the Cultural revolution in china You bought up in front of courts Unseen No due process the whispers People don't want to associate you because if they associate with you They get canceled sentences A past not by courts Not after reviewing evidence But by anonymous committees who often don't even tell you who accused you of what? Now again, it's not the state. It's not the government, but we're creating a culture a culture A fear The left dominates the culture Therefore it's creating a culture of fear a culture of silence a culture of self censorship a culture Where people don't speak up where people don't express themselves The right at least at the state level dominates politics It dominates the legislatures So it can pass laws That limit A woman's right to own body a woman's right to own decisions a woman's right to her own life Restrict her choices They can pass laws Or just dictate behavior the basic indicates to people Oh, if you die of covet no big deal Because after all You'll go to heaven Everything will be wonderful over there. So don't worry They can pass laws. That's our private companies. You can't play it safe You can't demand vaccines We think People who want vaccinated should be able to trample on your property whenever they want however they want like in florida Not allowing cruise ships to demand proof of vaccine in order to take a cruise one of the reasons It's so depressing right now in america It's because there is nobody standing out for liberty It's so depressing right now in america because both left and right Have given up on liberty and yes that you know woke is evil The left is evil woke culture woke whatever Cancer culture the whole thing is evil. It's wrong. It's bad But in opposition to it The right has its own woke. It has its own variation It has its own Way of trampling on our rights trampling on our liberties Trampling on the constitution So yeah, I see the threat from the left I see the tactics of the left and the evil of the left and everything the left are doing I've seen it for decades and decades and decades. I've been around I've been fighting the left for 40 years The big difference today is That while the right was always weak and pathetic and Now it's not just weak and pathetic now. It's actively advocating actively engaged In destroying our liberty in destroying our freedom. I mean Rand always saw this day would come She knew it would happen. Thank you best friend how Hank That's why she didn't vote for Ronald Reagan in 1980 Because she saw the religious right dominating and taking over the right It's very Very depressing To see the world as it is and then you know, I just came across this story today and Another story a few days ago actually, um on Afghanistan, you know The u.s. Is reaching deals with the Taliban To get more people out or sending it list. I mean just It is just Really really sad to see Really pathetic to see Maybe this creates space Maybe this creates space as the right goes nuts as the left goes right. Maybe it creates space for Better people That's my hope What we need to carve out It is better space Brian says something I think right I think Iran has been vindicated the can't the left can't govern. Yeah, we we've seen that with biden They can't govern. They can't organize anything. They can't You know, they were a disaster Look at new york state. Look at look in new york city. Look at chicago And the right can't be reasoned with no they're completely obsessed with Authoritarians and god. I mean religion religion Basically conditions you for authoritarianism Because what is religion? Religion is acceptance of authoritarian Authoritarianism in epistemology It conditions you to accept the word of god Based on what? Whatever It it you accept Immorality based on what? Based on commandments based on scriptures not based on logic not based on reason not based on evidence so religion in a sense Necessitates um or leads one to authoritarianism. So you got a left that's authoritarian destructive evil And you've got a right But a left that is also disintegrated and therefore cannot govern and therefore cannot get anything done therefore All it creates is mayhem and destruction And you've got a right the response to the mayhem and destruction not with freedom and liberty not with calls for individual rights Both calls for authoritarianism in one way or another and and certainly Anti-abortionist authoritarianism it's the state it's the state To uh to a woman how they should live what they should do how they should behave It's it's part of the anti-sex view of of christianity part of the whole original sin view I mean you've seen here on the chat that people will say Well, you know if you don't have an abortion don't have sex. Yeah anti-sex One of the great things about safe Cheap abortion is that we can have sex We fear sex less We can enjoy sex more There are no unborn children here. The fetuses that are not children. They're potential. See you've got a fundamental epistemologic or metaphysical confusion Something that will become and can become an individual human being is not is not A human being yet. It's a potential human being. There's a huge difference between a potential and an actual They are fetuses Children are children children are after they're born before they're born. They're not children. Sorry biology anatomy Two weeks a clump of cells that's on a child That's a clump of cells with the potential to become a child, but it's not a child That's a massive you know faith-based Evasion to confuse Potentiality with actuality somebody's saying why don't I debate a catholic? I'd love to debate a catholic bring it on catholics I'd love to debate a pro-abortion catholic or pro um, uh, what is it common good? Conservative catholic. I'll take any of those catholics on Bring an audience. I'll debate you life as what Cells have life sells our life human life does not begin Until it's born And yes, maybe there's some cognition going on in a sense of sense of perception Or maybe there's some brain activity going on in the final trimet trimester But in the first trimester in the second trimester, that's not human life human potentiality Will become human life if left alone. It's not human life No, I'm not wrong You guys are just blinded Blinded and and if you think it's human life at age one week Then that's massive evasion if you look at a clump of cells at one week and say that's a child Then you don't know how to form concepts. You don't know what concepts mean You can't have a soko with a bunch of cells and say that's a human being Doesn't have a brain yet Doesn't have legs yet Doesn't have a stomach yet That's not a human being Yeah, have sex as much as you want Nobody really wants an abortion. So Take care. But if you get pregnant, yes, take an abortion pill or get an abortion. Absolutely Please don't have don't have a child if you don't want a child All right. Yes, but the attitude is ultimately the attitude is anti-sex. It's ultimately christian. It's ultimately Uh faith-based religious based an evasion of science an evasion of individual rights. There's no individual There's a parasite on the mother Not an individual all right, um Why don't you take a morning after pill? I'm all for the morning after pill But it's not probably healthy to take the morning after pill after every time you have sex Keep the morning after pill to emergencies when you know something went wrong But That's the problem is that because of the texas law women are now going to use the morning after pill After every act of sex and that's unbelievably unhealthy All right, let's see Yeah, contraceptives are great. Everybody should use contraceptives. They're just not perfect Accidents happen And you shouldn't have to Suffer an unwanted child and the child shouldn't have to suffer being unwanted as a consequence of an accident All right guys, I'm not going to debate with the chat on abortion I wish there were I wish there were rational arguments um Against abortion, but I just haven't seen any I just see statements and and and declarations and all caps Right. All right, let's see Let's do a couple of uh, $20 super chat questions. And then I am going to Talk about this documentary that I finally reviewed spider's web um, and we're going to talk about spider's web Uh, the documentary and then I'll take some of the, um, lower dollar amount super chat questions Okay, brian asks if I were to author an article about the importance of rational law What kind of criteria might you use for selecting a magazine or newspaper to publish it? Do you have a preference? It's a it's a tricky question brian because it depends on, um What's your purpose of writing the article for right so you could think of writing a a scholarly article with the idea of trying to influence Uh, law professors and intellectuals who deal with law and then you would try to publish it in a law review journal That is an academic law review journal Which which law students read law professors read and you might have an impact on the profession lawyers read But if you want to You know for for the public On rational law, you know, I don't know. Maybe Maybe a publication like Atlantic would be great if if you could get in if you could get it published It would be hard Uh, so I I'm not sure what other publications, uh, would accept an article on rational law It would depend on the context. It would depend what else you, you know But it would depend a lot of it on on what your goals are Thomas Schubert asked should the u.s. Congress have declared one Afghanistan in 2001? I don't think so. I think what should have happened in november of 2001 is the u.s. Congress should have declared war on all organizations All organizations advocating for and acting on behalf of countries organizations acting on behalf of and supporting Islamic totalitarianism or jihadism or the very many other names it has And then the war would have not been with Afghanistan per se It would have been with the Taliban and we would have gone and destroyed the Taliban and it would have been with al-Qaeda and it would have been with the Saudis many people in the Saudi Arabia It would have been with Iran It would have been with islamic jihad and khamas and khizballin And an isis and there was no isis then but anybody would at any point Becomes an advocate for violent jihad Is our enemy and we're at war with you and we will act to destroy you congress should have articulated that Should have articulated it's a different type of declaration of war. It's not like a declaration of war in a country it's a declaration of war on a politicized ideology it's political manifestation that is it's active manifestation in terrorist organizations political organizations and countries like iran Like iran if the Taliban is the will of the afghan people then their will of the afghan people needs to be broken You know and it would be broken if the Taliban was crushed The Taliban was the governor of Afghanistan. Yes um, and you could have declared war on afghanistan Sure Yeah, it could as part of this broader declaration Uh afghanistan like iran would have been one of the countries listed Yes, that makes sense The ego says life is not personhood. That's right. Life is not personhood. Life is not human life. Life is not individual human life How can one study history objectively? Most seem to study it by assuming hypothesis and looking for evidence that supports are contradicted isn't that biased You could only highlight facts that support your claim. Yeah. I mean the way to study history objectively is to study the facts Study what actually happened So find histories that actually find history books find historians that specialize in Telling you what happened. So I think the way to study it You know used to be it used to be that um The historians had this attitude of telling us the facts of of uh, of what was actually happening and um Rather than just a marxist interpretation or their patriotic interpretation or whatever interpretation it was They just gave you the facts and you got interpreted now You'd have to go find those books And one way to try to tease out the facts versus the interpretation is to read both sides To read a variety of different histories And maybe from those you can tease out what actually happened versus interpretation Maybe you can if they're not lying Figure out What is their bias and what is not? It's hard. It's hard and I wish we had I wish we had better historians better history The Taliban are not normal afghans the Taliban are particular A force within afghanistan. There was no Taliban before the Taliban There was no Taliban in the 60s and 50s in in afghanistan Or if there was it was it was there were there were people who believed in the Taliban, but they were They were a minority and they were In the countryside and much of the country didn't function based on those ideas. So the Taliban are the You know, they are the most radical Consistent Of the slumists of the muslims in Afghanistan But if the Taliban was defeated thoroughly then afghanistan would stop being pro-taliban They're pro-taliban because the Taliban are winners so There's nothing There's nothing that says afghanistan has to be They didn't just stick around to take back power they fought For 20 years to take back power. They took advantage of every weakness of americans. They took advantage of every Every moral weakness of the afghan government, which was filled with Corruption which america supported And they they chipped away at us. They killed us. They they they attacked us. They they just kept chipping away and that had An enormous impact on the morale of americans. It had an enormous impact on the morale of Afghans and afghans came to support them because they came to believe that they would win so We defeated ourselves in afghanistan. It's not that the Taliban defeated us. We defeated ourselves This absolutely no reason we couldn't have crushed them. All right. Um, yeah, I want to talk about I want to talk about spider's web. So I can't remember who it was, but one of you Paid me money to what spider's web spider's web is a documentary um, it's about an hour and 20 minutes Um, and uh, you asked me to review it. So here's my review of spider's web It's terrible It's a good example of the biased History that you guys were talking about earlier spider's web has this thesis ceases It's it's been watched Massively millions of people have watched this. Oh, Troy. Thank you. Wow Troy is in the house. All right under lockdown in australia, I take it in there's a good there's a good, uh, uh It's a good picture of australia. It shows the whole island And uh, it's called, you know, I think the heading is something like a prison nation And you know a nation of prisoners and you think about it. Yeah, it was founded by prisoners and now Everybody's under house arrest um So spider's web. So spider's web. This is the thesis that uh, England used to have an empire And that empire to logics then was managed from the city of london from the financiers at london. It's a hugely uh, anti finance anti financier documentary and the idea is That when the empire collapsed The city of london wanted To maintain its power and wanted to maintain its control And to maintain its power and control It you know to maintain its control um, it basically, uh, established in the post empire era a system of Call it, uh, what do they call it in the documentary? They call it, um, you know, basically offshore banking secret banking Banks that allow you don't ask questions where you open accounts where, um, you know shadow banking it's Where people can use it in order to Hide ill-gotten money Void taxation And they created a network of these places, uh came in islands Uh and a number of different former british colonies All established these financial entities to help the rich Avoid taxes and to funnel money into the city of london, which makes money off of london money And it's all the whole documentary is All phaseless if it's one big conspiracy theory these people are running the world and you know, there's a whole section of how Uh, this is screwing africa. How is it screwing africa? Think about it this way. Um Africa has let's say i'm just gonna make up some numbers africa has debt of of a hundred billion dollars, let's say and uh, but it turns out that The various dictators authoritarians Of africa they're never called dictators authoritarians in the documentary The leaders of african countries have funneled about nine hundred billion dollars Into some of these bank accounts all over the world They've stolen their own people's money and put them in the bank accounts now god forbid God forbid here's my catholic coming out of me That you actually blame the dictators for stealing the money You blame the populace for tolerating the dictators for stealing the money You blame the elites in african countries for allowing the dictators to steal the money No, no, no, no, no, no You can't blame those people Because after all they're weak you know they've got dark skin and and You know We don't blame them for anything. They're all victims I mean, it's so racist not to blame them It's so racist to treat them differently Mike, thank you So we don't blame The africans. Who do we blame? We blame the bankers who make it possible We blame The city of london that has created this network of banks that allow people to hide their money. Now, this is just nuts Of course, it assumes That the only purpose of money the only purpose of creating money is to pay taxes In a free world in a capitalist world There'd be 100 privacy in banks To get any information about anybody from a bank you'd need a subpoena Why would Why is it anybody's business what I have in my bank account? Why isn't anybody business how much money I made last year? It's only the statists The authoritarians the collectivists who think that they My money is theirs. Now the example in Africa is stealing But one has to condemn the theft one has to condemn the people who commit the theft It's none of the bankers business where the money came from It's government's responsibility Up to police not bankers bankers and a policeman. It's not the bankers job It's absurd. I mean the document is filled with falsehood It talks about the euro dollar It talks about the creation of this whole banking system in the euro dollar market But these banking systems in the euro dollars were built primarily To get around regulation But I am forgetting around regulation I think it's great to get around regulation I think it's wonderful to get around regulation regulation Is government intervention? It's immoral It's use of force against the productive Now I believe in catching fraudsters putting them in jail But one of the reasons you had a euro dollar market Was because in the united states until the 1980s banks couldn't pay interest on checking accounts To the until recently banks couldn't pay interest on copper checking accounts So what happened was corporations Were pissed off. I mean, what are they going to do with the money? It's one of the reasons where money market accounts is so the corporations can shift their Money in overnight and get some interest on it because the billions and billions of billions if not trillions of dollars The euro market euro dollar market was created to allow American banks to deposit corporate checking accounts Into european accounts overnight Get interest so they could pay their corporate clients interest without breaking american law Yeah, it's called It's called regulatory arbitrage and it's a wonderful thing Yes, these banks offshore banks are used To avoid paying taxes. Yes corporations Use every trick in the book legal To try and not to pay taxes good for them There's no duty to pay your taxes There's a duty to follow the law maybe right? up to a point but Your duty is to shareholders and part of that duty is to minimize the taxes that you pay So I commend All these specialists Who help people To evade taxes You know if they're doing it legally And if you want to stop it, you know close the loopholes, but even better get rid of taxes The simpler the taxes are The lower the taxes are The less evasion there is Bankers are not conspirators they're the victims of regulations and controls And yes, they fight back and they are massive innovators They're amazing innovators In fighting ways around the regulation so Documentary is I mean a bunch of what they say is true But my evaluation of what happens there my evaluation of what they did Is very very different Than than their evaluation So spider's web Remember spider's web that you you put out a web To what to eat your prey to catch your prey and kill it But the spider's web in the documentary was to provide people with services legitimate services Of getting around irrational government regulations and irrational government controls All right, let's see all right, um Let's do some of these questions with any $20 questions. No $20 questions. All right, if you if If you want to ask a question you can do so on this super chat Michael asks Why do educated people tend to view arguments in favor of personal responsibility as naive or inhumane? Well, because they don't think that people Have the ability to take care of themselves They don't believe that people have the capacity To be responsible They paternalism is good. We need the state or we need the philosopher kings to tell us how to live To guide us to teach us to and So again, this is play-doh Play-doh's view most people 90 percent of people are in the cave. They don't know what's good for them They don't know what's right. They want to know what's just They need an authority To tell them to guide them Otherwise, they're completely lost. So it's humane It's humane to be paternalistic I on the other hand believe that everybody's capable of reason Everybody's capable of taking care of themselves. Everybody's capable of making choices for themselves and nobody Is capable of choosing for another human being Balaji Sreveen Something was on Sam Harris. He pushed back on incoming equality. It's worth a listen, especially the last hour. Good Good, you know, maybe maybe maybe Sam Harris will have me on one day I'll have to check that out. Thanks Michael asked, what did you think of general Shadayyan? Was he the Israeli pattern? No, I don't think he was the Israeli pattern. There was a lot of I mean, he was a Mostly a good general from what I can tell He he was part of the guerrilla warfare against the British and and later in defending Israel in its first war he He uh, he was a successful General and then politician But he was also a massive failure. His massive failure was that in 1973 He did not see the war coming in spite of intelligence reports If he did The the army was ill-prepared in spite of the fact that he was defense secretary and ultimately his lack of preparedness his lack of being willing to uh You know stand up And and and and alert the military And do what was necessary to defend the country at the time There's some argument that he knew there was going to be a war, but he appeased americans him and golemia appeased americans Not to start anything preemptively, but you don't have to preempt it if you call up the reserves Thousands of young kids died in that war And you could argue it was musha dayans fault So whatever legacy he has as a great general or great commander of troops Was tarnished by his really really pathetic performance in 1973 as defense minister Um, and and the fact that the army was not prepared For the war that was engaged Zami, uh, thank you for the support. Really appreciate it um Michael ask can you rule out perpetual motion devices philosophically? I don't think so. I you know, I I don't know It seems like it It is a denial of some laws of physics, but I don't know that it's a denial of any law in philosophy um, so it seems like it's uh, you know, uh I you know, I don't know I don't know. I can't even think about a perpetual motion machine would be but I can't think of a philosophical reason Why you couldn't have a perpetual motion machine? There are obviously physics reasons why you can't have it What do you think of? Oh, you asked me this. I already answered that The left's response to this is brian the left's response to the right needs improvement. Yeah Everything needs improvement the left's response to the right the right response to the left And who asks conservative conservatives chewing more down syndrome children since women Won't have the chance to know Was disturbing. Yes Generally, um, you can only discover if your child has down syndrome Later in a pregnancy. I think to bring a child into the world with Down syndrome is a travesty. It's unjust It's not it's not right for the kid. It's not right for the parents It is it is disturbing and it is consistent with the Evil attitude, you know, the the just horrific attitude so many christians have towards human life If you valued human life human life individual human life then um You would not want your child born with a with any kind of um any kind of uh deformation of of his means of knowledge All of his body. Why would you want a child who was deformed physically? Certainly? Why would you want a child who was deformed mentally? So it's not a matter of eugenics. It's a matter of they're not born yet I'm not folk killing them when they were alive, but they're not born yet Although if you look if you saw some of the zika babies Who had nothing nothing in their lives but pain Because they they they were born in in in in in such a Such deformities that it was just painful for them to be alive in the moment. They were born until they passed away That's not that's just and and to not abort those children, which you couldn't in many catholic countries Where zika was prevalent like brazil It's just a travesty. It's just evil. It's evil And and hopefully that they will come one will be able to genetically change and make changes in the genes but it's not some God placed the spirit into the child and therefore it's sacred and we can't No, there is no god And to being to being a human being into this world who's only gonna experience suffering is evil And in that sense not having an abortion is immoral It's immoral not to have not to abort a a zika baby as they would describe it at least at the time No, 50 canadian dollars. I like the way you said it the other day Consciousness is not a tool for manipulating reality. It isn't a witness tool. Yes It's an it's the witness of reality But you see So many on both left and right You want to pretend That they can create reality manipulate reality shape reality Change reality Facts don't matter reality doesn't matter what matters just is their consciousness what they feel Bash brannigan. I love that name Wouldn't privacy laws prevent lawsuits proving an abortion took place? I don't know. I mean This is the kind of stuff that would have to be worked out in courts You know the practicality of it the the ability of this to to actually happen But you know, I don't know. I don't know how robust privacy laws are. I don't know How strong they are what they cover what they don't have I'm not an expert on these kind of things Yeah, I mean this website this go daddy website was was, you know, basically Was a whistle-blowing site it was called on you know, where you you let people know anonymously about people having abortions and people helping people have abortions and Anonymous tips you were seeking anonymous tips about abortions that are taking place just sick sick Thank you. Go daddy for stopping them Um, let's see John asks Just like a woman has a right to abort an unborn child Should the father have the right to abandon the baby if the woman decides to have it? Yes Yes I think that's probably right I think the father If he doesn't want the child Doesn't have a responsibility for bringing him up. I mean abandon the baby to the extent that The woman has decided to have it. Yes. I don't think I think the father only has responsibilities vis-a-vis the child Those responsibilities he wants to take on himself I mean take on himself All right, the master for 20 pounds ask if someone had a Down syndrome kid and didn't know about it Until they were born would they have rights for termination if so, why not? No, I don't think so, but it's because Once it's born, it's human and it has it has rights and you can't just Decide Who's whose life as an individuated being whose life you get to keep and which life is terminated? I think if you could you could make the argument that I like that a Child that's born In severe pain and pain that will never go away should have its life terminated But I don't think Down syndrome quite is at that level I don't think it's at that level But these are tricky issues not simple issues around once it's born Pretty easy. I think before it's born once it's born very very difficult Okay, Thessie asks she's being a devil's advocate. What about Helen Kenner? Kella bet people are happy. She wasn't aborted Yes, but I could completely understand the parents who would have decided we don't want A deaf mute blind child and a completely sympathetic with that and I'm fine with that so Sure, you can find county examples, but you also have to take into account the parents and everything else and and and the In a sense the miracle right that she found a teacher that could actually teach her otherwise, she would have stayed at the level of A non-human is the level of an animal for the rest of her life Oh and send me says she was born sighted and able to hear So she lost those abilities. So you you wouldn't have aborted her anyway and and you know, so it's not Anyway, it's not for you to decide it's for the the the Woman to decide Whether she wants to Down syndrome, maybe or not, you know Some people want Down syndrome babies and you know not want them, but if they have them They're fine with it and that's fine Some people don't I do not I would have aborted Why uh, mo Moses asked why so many people taken by the idea of a fetus possessing rights They claim it's a scientific issue and that a fetus gains right at conception. I disagree. It's clearly philosophical It's philosophical and scientific Certainly if you're talking about conception Conception, it's not even a fetus. It's it's it's a sperm and an egg um There's some name for it was zygote or something before before fetus. So it's not scientific, but it's clearly philosophical rights are philosophical concept You don't gain rights biologically. There's no biology of rights rights are a moral concept there are idea they're a Requirement it's safe for human beings to live in a in a social setting But they're not primaries in a sense that they are um Or intrinsic in the sense that they are somehow inside of me you can't take it out No, I mean some people don't have rights criminals don't have rights murderers lose their rights So it's not in you so um A fetus does not have rights because it's not a human being It's not individuated and that's just a fact A biological fact Fact proven in biology and in philosophy Is western europe about 20 years deeper into their status in the we are yet the fascist rights of dim hasn't taken over england France or june no, but it has taken over hungry And I don't think western europe's 20 years deeper into status in the we are not yet and statism doesn't work exactly like that it's not like um How much statism do you have today? and Who's in charge right now? It doesn't none of this works in some kind of formulaic way It it's a combination of the ideas and the culture and the particular individuals and is their charismatic leader who comes around and What are the existential things that actually happen that that that promote a particular view for example that? Europe have riots last summer did we have rights? Well, we had riots So maybe the rioting is going to induce a response that won't happen over there. There's so many moving parts And europe is seen I don't think that 20 years deeper into statism. I remember what measure Denmark is less regulated than the united states it has It has more redistribution in the u.s. But much more efficient redistribution in the u.s Sweden is less regulated in the united states in in many realms um Yeah, social spending social protections Worker's rights in some parts of europe are more than the united states and some less In fine regulations in some areas are worse in europe in some areas are worse in the u.s. But You know, uh, uh, they don't have critical race theory They don't have cancer culture not to the extent that we do They don't have political correctness like we do They don't a lot of the Sins of the left don't exist over there. They don't have Black lives matter Not on the scale that we have it anyway, sweden didn't lock down its residents. We did so But you are seeing Not the rise of authoritarian left, but the rise of their authoritarian rights in eastern europe You're seeing it with obon in hong gree. I'll do a show on obon Soon with the tucker carson interview of him one of the great travesties Of the american right today, and he's seeing it to some extent in poland The only places you're seeing Authoritarianism is on the right in europe. So you're seeing, you know, we'll see what happens in france But if marilla pan comes to power Right-wing political parties in europe are far stronger than left-wing political parties in europe The left is weak in europe I mean, yes, the left of center might Win in germany over the right of center, but it's not the crazy left the crazy left is um It's not a power in europe. What's what's a power in europe Much more. So is the right um Tucker carson is very talented. Yeah, he is he's also You know a an evasive immoral authoritarian You know irrational I could go on idiot But he's very talented and very smart very smart and Has the biggest program in the world. So There you go incredibly evil little fascist. I like that z 400 race 37. That's right incredibly evil little fascist That's that's a good description um Scott asks kudos for the crt class that always see should there be one a conservative nationalism Or wherever the right-wing takeover is supposed to come from um I don't know what you're talking about Anyway, uh, I am debating a conservative nationalist in uh, austin on uh, December 8th. So Just look at europe. It's full of right-wing takeovers No left-wing takeovers I'm trying to think of a european country taking over by the left. I mean by the real left all right um My professor is sympathetic with mox and many of the students are too my professor said that mox wanted equality and was misunderstood Yeah, he wanted equality and he's well understood and the way to achieve equality was to Kill a hundred million people. I mean generally the only way Yeah, the eu is left-wing takeover And the response to the eu I've always said the left takes over and then the response to the eu is right-wing And the response to the america left will be from the right and the response on a national by nation basis to The left is right Why is this hard so hard to get? um Read mox. You don't have to believe me. You don't have to believe your professor. Just read mox. He was genocidal And it was clear what his philosophy has to lead to it's clear what his philosophy has to lead to and anybody who still Makes excuses for mox. There's blood in his hands Can you say a few words on cultural appropriation? What do you think about using another culture of musical style in a piece of art without being a part of that culture? I love it I am Massively for cultural appropriation only the good stuff by the way. I mean shitty culture should not be appropriate shitty culture bad culture should be left to the people who invented it and have it so it's um I mean, I I see no problem with cultural appropriation. I I don't know what it even is right people create stuff And they put it out there into the world and yeah use it. I mean Every composer who ever lived Appropriate certain things from composers before him um You know Beethoven learned from Mozart who learned from uh who learned from Bach and and they learned from uh, you know More primitive more more ancient music Um, just anything You should embrace anything beautiful anything good anything valuable. I mean I'm all for cultural appropriation. That's why I think that Uh in Africa and in South America and in in Asia, they should embrace classical music And they have I mean many of the great classical musicians today Asians. How dare they? So the whole idea of knowledge is you build It's it's it's it's you constantly build on the good stuff the the the the Greeks built on on on Egyptian sculpture and and and the later Greeks built on the earlier Greeks and the Renaissance built on the Greeks and That's how you succeed. You don't invent everything yourself. That would be absurd and bizarre anti anti-human cognition. That's not how cognition not how creativity not how the world works so Thank you, Mike So Of course, you should use the good in other culture if you're I don't know If you're a really good Indian chef and you're not Indian good for you. Why does anybody care what color skin you have? If you're a great italian chef and you're not italian If you're a good israeli chef and you're not israeli If you're a great british chef. Oh, no, sorry. There's no such things, but if you're a great french cook, but you're british Why does anybody care? Only thing that matters is the good. The only thing that matters is it good Of course don't violate property rights, but cultural population is not about property rights. It's about what It's about learning and bettering and advancing and getting better What you do What's your comment in capitalism in india? What are your comments on reliance? I don't know what the reliance is What is the thing that's holding back india freedom capitalism? So there is no capitalism in india india was socialist it liberated its markets a little bit in the 90s And it it it it refuses to liberate its economy completely it's uh, it is um Somebody says yokes are putting his british cuisine. I said cuisine It's not cuisine And the only reason golden ramsey became a good chef and took british food and made it into cuisine Is because he brought french techniques and french sensitivities and cultural expropriation Anyway, india needs more capitalism more freedom more respect for property rights less caste system More equality before the law more viewing people As individuals not as members of groups So what india needs is to massive what india needs is a massive cultural expropriation From the enlatement Needs freedom and property rights And a attitude towards wealth and success a positive attitude towards wealth and success and free markets Michael san Michael asks i notice a ton of indians into objectivism Do you think india could be their country where the movement really takes off? I doubt it. I mean, yes, there's a lot of indians interested in objectivism primarily because Ainuans books were very popular there In the starting really in the 1960s and 70s and until today But I don't see an indian objectivist movement really being created and I don't see As big as the numbers are in india india is a massive country still dominated by religion and nationalism and socialism so Very very difficult See indias being their country. I think it'll have it'll have to happen in a in a smaller country To begin with where you could have where a small minority Can have a disproportionate? um effect rather than a big country where that Minority would have to be pretty big to to really be Have an impact All right, let's see What happened to my mouse? I'll stop working All right, uh, thanks everybody If you want to ask a question has to be a 20 dollar question. We've gone over an hour and a half So if there are 20 dollar questions, I'll take them now. 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