 Brad back with backward chaining because we're doing backward chaining so now we're back to backward chaining Anyway, the idea is with backward chaining as previously stated. You have a task analysis the teacher lets the learner Do the last step to meet reinforcement and you increase in a backward fashion letting the learner get accomplished with those pieces what leaps ahead is is spots in that chain are Could be easier for a kiddo to do so I'm still gonna use tying shoes I had one kid where he couldn't get the middle the actual crossing and going underneath and loops done But he was able to pull up on the laces and he was able to pull Laces together at the end so in a leaps ahead chain what I backward chain what I was doing was letting him do the several steps He could do independently and helping him out through this parts of tying issue He's having a hard time with and then meeting reinforcement for finishing the last step of tying the shoe