 We've talked about the relation between local platforms and national platforms and we divided it into four questions. One was how do we improve the linkages between local level and national level? Second is what role can NBDC projects or NBDC partners play in it? Third one, how do we develop sustainability of these platforms as the project ends? And the fourth issue was on how do we measure effectiveness and this last question we left out due to time. We basically had more like a brainstorm of all kind of issues which came up. The one first about the linkages were several ideas about if we want to improve linkages between local and national level these were more ideas about how we can create more linkages at the local level. So being very participatory at the classroom level maybe we should not only think about platforms at the warrior level but also see like how can we make the structures at the capability level to capture the classroom experiences. And then there was an issue like how do we deal with these different kind of context at the local level? How can we capture these experiences and doesn't make sense at all? How can we, they all need different kind of solutions so how are we going to communicate that to the national level? And I think one thing was what we mentioned is at least there might be some institutional issues or processes which are similar in which we can communicate to the national level. Another issue which was mentioned yeah it's important to generate evidence at the local platform to feed into the national platforms and for learning and sharing. Another issue about linkages is about institutional issues that we need to explore opportunities to link planning processes at different levels. Strengthing institutions, for example if you look at the extension workers how can we enhance capacity among them so that we can enhance the linkages between local and higher levels. And also we need to think about getting the right people on board. Sometimes we need decision makers, at other moments we need people who do the work or who have the competencies and we may need to think about it like who do we need at what stage in what way. Then a lot of issues of course about communication how can we improve communication, can we buy meetings, can we buy internet facilities and also the issue is who has experience with what type of communications facilities that make difference between different factors and between different levels. Also we need to think about what are the needs for different factors and we need to get that clear to be able to know how can we improve the linkages between actors but also between different levels. Also we need to think about professional associations and civil society associations. So that was some ideas in terms of the linkages. The other thing is what role can MVDC play. On one hand MVDC we see that there's a kind of capability to this local level and national level. So what role can MVDC play? It's facilitation. Facilitation of what comes out of the local level and how do we communicate, how do we bring it to the national level and vice versa. Also in providing of tools or guidelines. Not everyone has experience with these kind of platforms so how are we going to do that, how can we provide a play role in that. The other thing is what comes out of the platforms what kind of key challenges, what kind of key issues can also be again used for the research projects in MVDC. What kind of issues come up, what kind of questions come up and how we deal with it. At the same time how do we provide, as projects, how do we provide research input to the local level or to the national level. At what stage, at what level and in what kind of format. So that was an issue. We may also have to think about a strategic plan how do we link the platform processes and research findings. And I think Alan already circulated the kind of day for thinking about relationships between platform processes and research findings and see how those are interlinked. And the last issue we discussed was sustainability. Key issue which comes up is if you think that at the local level you make it like local ground there needs to be need to look at marketing centres. How can we get these activities, written by marketing centres as a higher chance that these platforms will continue after the project ends. Also we need to think about short term and long term benefits for farmers. It needs to have like a benefit. So if it's only long term benefit it will probably not succeed. If you can have a combination of short term and benefit it has a higher chance of succeeding. Also about embedding in institutional structure. So building on existing platforms, networks, participatory, taking into account community bylaws. And so how can we edit in the sort of context. And finally also thinking about internal sustainability. What can we develop a kind of strategic plan for finding resources for linkages with research. And also a follow up and a devaluation so that we have an idea of a plan beyond the advocacy project.