 Hello and welcome to 420gms on NewsClick. We are joined here in the studio with Arjun Pandit and joining us from Retro Grafe is Zennady Singh and from Australia is Siddhant Ani. We're going to round up the iLeague season today. Chennai City are champions, they've romped to the title, scored the most goals, played the most exciting football despite having almost gotten relegated last season. Let's take it from the top. Arjun. See, I'll tell you what, look, there are many positives for Chennai City FC and we'll of course talk about it. Renady has commented on all their games, so he will of course give us a better insight into that. But my only point is, the fact that in the last three seasons you had three first time champions and two teams who almost relegated the season before that, it tells you also about the quality of football on display. Let's not take anything away from the iLeague that the fact that this league has gone to the last day or the last round of fixtures, that tells you about the level playing field. But let that not take you away from the fact that the quality of football has just not been that great. But as far as Chennai City FC, Renady Bhai, 48 goals in this season. I mean, commentating will be fun to see all that attacking football. Yeah, yeah. But see, Chennai, for me, they deserve to win. From the first match, the game they have played, the matches they have played, the style of football, the philosophy, it's been the best. Isbengol did well, no doubt. But Isbengol did well in patches. But Isbengol, I'm sure wherever they are, they are second in the league. I think they deserve to be second in the league. But for me, Chennai, by far, the best team in the league and I'm happy that they won the league. Somewhere or the other, Siddhan, would you also agree that this Spanish philosophy, man? I mean, you know, we always brought in foreigners, African players. But over the last few years, we've seen Spanish players and the fulcrum being four or five Spanish players who have that philosophy of football. I think it suits the Indian players who are supporting them, keeping the ball on the ground and it suits our characteristics and our style. I think if you sort of exclude Minerva Punjab and their, the way it's sort of they played, which was a quite defensive, direct style of football that they were looking at. And they were the ones to be. But other than that, definitely I think the Spanish way of playing, you look at Isolacy and like the highly technically scaled and quick visual voice that's played in that tight ground. Very similar to what you've seen at some of these clubs that have been able to do well in the league. And I think the Chennai boys, even the guys like Suzai Raj, who was in the team last season, moved on to the ISL. There was a strong focus on how they played with the ball and what they did with the ball and how they developed the game. Whether they won all of us was sort of second P and Akbar Nawaz came out and said this at the beginning of the season that like, it's kind of all that, that is attractive that we played with the fans in the stadium. And I don't know whether like it's ideal for Indian boys to be playing the way they like in Spain or not. But in terms of an advertisement for the I-League and what an I-League champion club should be playing like, I think it's fantastic that we've seen like 48 goals in 20 games. 40 of those goals were by Spanish players. So only 8, I mean 40 of those goals were scored by Spanish players? Yeah, yeah. So I think Chennai cities, foreigners, for foreigners, along with that attacking three attacking players and Eslava, they have signed the best foreigner without any doubt. But the Indian players who are playing alongside them is also, they have also performed the best. It's not only the foreigners, yes, foreigners make a difference, but at the same time, if you see Gaurav Bora, the young guy, defender playing along with Eslava, he has performed at his best. Of course this is just a start, he will play much, much better. But Indian players in Chennai city players also, they are no less, they have given their best. And I think if they can keep, I don't know how long they can keep them. I'm sure there are a lot of ISL teams are waiting for those guys. But if they can keep for next year, I think Chennai city again, they will do well. And a lot of credit should go to the courts, of course, no doubt the foreigners. But then credit should go to the courts also, for the way of football they have played. That's perfect that Renédy is bringing up the point that I don't know how long they will last because there will be ISL teams looking in. So with this very swampy ground that the I-League and the next season is in, how sustainable is what Chennai city are doing? I mean they've also tied up with FC Basel. They've got this set up which they say is going to be a system that they're going to grow. Until we don't know what is the way forward, right? Till now whatever is going on in the air that this will be, that will be. Until you don't know what is the way forward, you can't really say how sustainable is Chennai city. I feel from the Chennai city victory, it's opened an avenue for us that whenever we're looking for foreign coaches, we go to South America. And the thing is the European and the South American coach is used to the kind of players he has over there. So when he comes here, he doesn't have the same characteristics in the players that he sees here. But now we've realized that there's a Singapore, South East Asian coaches, highly qualified South East Asian coaches who understand the characteristics of Indian players because our characteristics are closer to what the South East Asian players are. And as a result, you know, you can see the way the boys bought into his philosophy. And full credit to him, you know, it's not just 48 goals this season. In 2016, when he was a tampine rover or tampine rover, their team scored 52 goals. 52 goals. So it's not just a, you know, one. It's just philosophy and the boys buying into that. Yeah, I totally agree with Pandit because it is his philosophy. It's not only one match. It's not only two matches. It's the whole league except the last two matches before the final match. I think they fumbled, but before that, you know, by far they have been dominating the whole game, you know, every time they play. So this is not just by fluke. That's why I'm saying they deserve to win for the game they have played. It's so beautiful to watch. It's a little risky at the back, but the players did well. Can I ask one question to Sadanth who's been championing the cause of iLeague and rightly so. And I'm not saying anything against that. But the point being by the fact that you're having these first-time winners coming and winning the league in the last three seasons. Does that tell you a bit about the quality of football on display? Well, I mean, it's a complex answer, Pandit, because a lot of times what happens is that the top players from the iLeague because they're doing well at their level, they are clubs that come in and pick them up. I mean, I said clubs are picking up a lot of players from the iLeague, the best players. So for a club run on a tight budget, it's very hard to maintain like Red Reddy was saying earlier to keep the fulcrum or the core of a squad together when there's interest from bigger clubs which have far larger budgets. It's not really a realistic proposition. And also clubs are also looking to cash in on the sort of local talent that they nurture through the system. It's a very important part of the whole system which allows clubs to become sustainable in the longer term. If you have an academy and you're looking at local players from Tamil Nadu, for example, that you're bringing into the system and they're doing such a phenomenal job. I mean, if you look at Indian football team, historically the national team, there has been a strong component of players coming in now when we think of football in the south, we only think of Kerala. But Tamil Nadu has a very strong football culture. And it's great to see that that is getting revived because this club exists. And it also is similar to what is happening with iLeague clubs in other parts of the country, whether it's Kashmir or in Imphal where Renhida is right now with Hoka and other clubs. It feeds into a larger football ecosystem, I think. And that's what makes iLeague so critical to how Indian football's future is going to be. I mean, Pandit, just taking on from the point you made about Southeast Asian coaches, I want to bring Renhida in here because I also think that this presents a reverse opportunity for Indian coaches to potentially explore the chance to take their skills and talent and go to Southeast Asia and take a chance there with clubs in Singapore or other countries in Southeast Asia. That's why I think for Renhida, at least he has to prove in a domestic first. That's why I took Sagolban United coming out from the comfort zone in ISL being an assistant coach. You are getting money on time and you don't have to worry much. Worrying would be on the head coach. But I have realized that two years after working, I will go down and work with Sagolban United and teams from Northeast so that if I do make a mistake, I make a mistake with my own philosophy and that's all that I learned. So like Pandit said, it's really nice to see Asian coaches doing well. Singapore is very close to India. And when Singapore coaches can do well, we see even in Indian coaches, Mahesh and Pinto doing well. And our under-16 is doing well, Viviano. So let's see what today, tonight we have a match. Let's see what our under-23 can do. So as long as we are Asian, we should have faith in ourselves. And there are a lot of young coaches who are working hard to be in that best position. But it will take some time. But for sure, we are in the right spot. So I'm going to interrupt this normal broadcast to bring in a 420 grams exclusive. Ranidhi Singh, do you have something to tell us and exclusive as to where you are coaching next? Brother, today or tomorrow, tonight or tomorrow, let's see. That's a great exclusive. Thank you. Honestly, I got an offer from Neroka. So we still have to sign a contract once the contract signs and I'll be ready. So this is where I'm telling you. So let's see. It will be a big challenge for me to be a coach in Super Cup. That's going to be a big challenge. And it's tournament. Anything can happen. I'm going to play the best teams, the best organized team. All the ISL teams are really, really organized tactically. I have to come up in a very less time. I have to come up. Neroka this year, even though they are playing good football, they haven't got the result. So in 10 days, I have to see what I can do. This news you've given us of you coaching Neroka. I honestly feel whether you win or lose, I'm not even looking at that. Just the fact that Ranidhi Singh and the legend that is Ranidhi Singh is now coaching in top flight of Indian football. I think that should be celebrated. And we hope that continues with the likes of Ishwak Ahmed, with the Mehrajuddin, with Mahesh Gowli. Because that in turn, because you guys know the system inside out. You guys know how players feel inside out. So a player will buy into your philosophy much easier than koi go ra aar hai bahar se kain hai ki aise karo, waise karo. Brother, I feel that we need to prove and this is my best platform. Like you said, win or lose, that's a different thing. But I am 100% sure. But our guys, once they join in, my boys will give 100% that's for sure. It will not. No, that's the thing I always ask for. And we have now a few coaches like even Clifford is doing with Goa Reserve doing really well. I think he is one guy who will be a very good coach someday. Clifford Miranda. For sure. Intelligent as a player, really intelligent as a player. And I think he's already picked up a pro license, I believe. Yeah, he's doing it soon, or the second phase, I think. So this guy, he is sensual. I feel that Clifford, along with Sameer, but Clifford, I feel he will do really well. Yeah, you kind of get a sense. But have you seen Clifford play? He's very receptive to Armando in that Dempio team. He was very receptive to Armando and the way what he wanted him to do. That tells you about... Yeah, and he worked under many coaches, you know, Arthur Papas and then, you know, now even he's working closely with our under-23 coach. Derek. So Derek, yeah, sure. And then Derek has got a high regard for Clifford. And we were there in A license together and I could see that, you know, even along with Arata is the one. So Mehrazuddin has just got through, Isfag has got through. There are many young ones coming. We are competing in all levels, so let's see who will do well. So it will be a nice one. The young coaches are working hard to do well, yes. And Mehrazuddin... It will also be great to see your whole generation of... Sorry, go on. Sorry, go on. Yeah, Mehrazuddin did so well with the under-18 reaching the final of the iLeague. So, you know, we're working hard and let's see. It will also be great to see you, a bunch of former teammates coming together, sort of in competition with each other as coaches of the team. I will start the whole thing again. I just very quickly want to just say, I hope this Naroka story works out. And like, if it does, like kudos to the structure of football in the northeast, which is sort of allowing you to go, you know, from Sargalban, theoretically a competitive club into Naroka. And, you know, there seems to be an environment of sharing resources and experience and expertise, which in the long run will really help in the development of the sport in the region. So if Mocha and everyone is on board with this process, I think, like, really kudos to all you guys for being a footballer too. Yeah, you know, having a club from northeast, it has helped many players as well as young coaches like us. So if Mehrazuddin wants to come, Kasmeer is doing well. You know, Kasmeer bit Naroka two days back. And so with all this, before what happened was when we were young, only Isbengol Mohan Bagan, Dempo to some extent, and Churchill. So where do the coaches go? Where do the players go? Now we all have got, in the nearest place, so there are many players, young players who are from here, if they can't go to Isbengol Mohan Bagan, if it's too big, they can try here and test themselves. So this is a good platform for the players and for the new coaches, I believe. Okay, so if you guys are watching this and if this has worked out for Naroka, I just want to point out that you heard it here first. Okay, and we are going to have exclusive everything to Naroka from now on. Everything. So I'm going to move on from young coaches to young players, and that's a very smooth transition because now we can just talk about... about Indian arrows. Right. Oh, yeah. No, Indian arrows. They're playing tonight. For me, that, I know everyone's saying Chennai City and all, but if you just purely just be selfish and say development of Indian football, that for me is the story of the league. In the three years that this team, the under-17 team, has been put together, I know Indian arrows were theirs before that, but in the journey of this team, this is their best ever finish. They've finished eighth. So eighth must still be applauded. They've got the maximum number of points, 21 points. Last season, they got 15, but the only problem is they're still conceding a lot of goals. However, if you look at the goals they've conceded, a majority of those goals have come courtesy, play with the foreigners in the other teams. So Rendi Bhai, correct me if I'm wrong, if you remove foreigners from all the other teams, this team of Indian arrows is like the top three. Do you agree or not? Brother, I agree with you because it's very difficult to play without the foreigner, but they still fought and got the results. They haven't started well, honestly, but as the game progressed, they have improved a lot. And the last message you see, the way they have played against Mohan Bagan with all those high-profile foreigners in the ILEE, in Salt Lake, they did whatever they wanted to. And there was no answer from Mohan Bagan players. I was doing commentary on that, but I think they have done quite well. And this guy, credit should go to Mahesh Gowli and Pinto. Of course, yes. But then the thing is, will they be able to hold on to those players for long? And that's a big question. So again, actually, that's the big question because from what I understand, several of the players were on loan. Will leave for ISL clubs. And have also now gotten contracts with ISL teams. Borus is with ATKs and Amarjeet has gone to Jamshedpur. Anwar Ali has gone to Mumbai City. Jadav has gone to Jamshedpur. There were five players at Chennai. So the big question is... The big question is... I'm sorry to interrupt you, but the question also is, they will go to these ISL teams, but how much game time will they get in these ISL teams? I honestly think it could hamper their development. At the end of the day, you might be going to a bigger league where there's more competition and the cream of Indian players is playing there, but I still feel it could hamper their development. But there's a different situation. If you get so much money at one place, and as a professional player, if you get 20 or 20 times that amount, then you will go at the end of the day. How long will you stay here at the development phase? You've worked hard to get to a point where a big club is coming to you and saying, I'm offering you dollops of cash. So you won't think about the development phase. Okay, let's sign. So actually, let me throw this to Ishfaq and bring him in. We've spoken to him earlier about how and whether young players who are leaving for the ISL, what it means for them and what it means for their development. So let's hear from him first. Hi, guys. I think the idea behind having arrows was like to give them opportunity, provide them more game time. And I think they have done really good and rightly so some of them have signed with the big clubs. Regarding if they will go to the other clubs, this is where now they have to prove themselves and a better decision to make, whether to pick the money or to go in that team where they will feel that they will get the chance. So this is between them and their agents. I hope they will pick the right teams. And in football life, like once you are that 18, 19 and playing good, for everyone there, it came in my life, I am sure Renidhi will tell you the same where they have to make a decision which club to go. Because beyond that, I don't think arrows will keep them and this is now right time for to go to the bigger stage and perform there. Whether they will get the game chance there or game time there or not, that is up to the coach and the management and the players how to work hard to earn that place. Nobody will just give them that place. So actually now, I want to just put Renidhi in the uncomfortable spot of decoding this for us. When it comes to young players, they are going to the ISL, getting lesser game time but more money. When you were a young player, if you had this opportunity, how would you? Also, please. Yeah, see that the problem is where we had only one league those days and I was lucky as a 17-18 year old to get straight into Mohan Bagan and they were less foreigners those days. Only 203 were playing, not 5. So we still have chance 2 plus 1. So it was good for me, I straight into Mohan Bagan and I played 6 years, 6 years, 2 years but now, there is not 2 days, 5 players playing. So whoever coming in now, will they get a chance if they are not side back or wingers, if they are the core in the spine, it will be very very difficult. How many Indian strikers are going to get a chance? How many defensive midfielder are going to get a chance? Or how many stopper are going to get a chance? So I can understand the players, the young players, they have been offered very good money. How much money? 50-60 lakhs, I am sure some players have been offered. How are they getting paid right now? Approx, there must be not even a lakh. Maybe it's 5 times more. 50-60,000 Approx, 50-60,000. You are saying right now they are approximately earning about 10 lakhs and someone is offering you 60 lakhs in the ISL. So for a player as a human being you want to earn more, right? The players when you are earning 10 lakhs here and 60 lakhs they have been offering, for sure or they should stay for one more year and stuff, but as a player you want that money also. Many people may say that, why people are playing for the money and he should stay one more year but it's all said and then it's a very difficult one. But I am sure and they must be thinking that they have done well in the ISL, right? So they will be thinking, if I have done well in the ISL why not, I can do there also. So if 10 players go one or two will do well it will be very very difficult. Look at all the foreigners in Goa, look at all the foreigners the central midfielder they are playing where on earth they are going to get a chance. I am not saying never, say never but it will take time. But at this point of time, if they don't get a game time they will finish. Yeah, it's always a... The question is the game time or the money so you have to balance it out and how do we balance it out and since you are such a huge fan of the administrative side of Indian football and since you always love supporting them I am going to now put you in the situation of saying, can they do something? Can they help out in this situation? Is there something for them to think about? So this is one of those things where I am on the side of the guys who are doing the administration because this game is a huge plus and there are few things that come in and one is that if you have a developer squad it's also essential that the people, the workforce in that squad keeps getting rotated on a regular basis so that new blood keeps coming in you can't expect the whole idea of this team is to keep it at 121, 122 so year on year you will have two batches of players coming in and I think the development in terms of at least the technical ability of Indian players is very rapid now so year on year the basic fundamental technical skills that the players come in with change now you look at a guy like not my favourite player from the 117 world cup squad but guy like Komal at ATK I think he's got quite a few games at ATK this season you look at a kid like Hiraj in gold he is a regular for the ISL clubs I feel like Amarjeet for example in the centre he's developed physically to a hell of a lot so he's now looking like a man instead of a boy that he won maybe second string maybe as a substitute he'll get a chance to develop I don't know I would defer to Renédy's experience and knowledge of these things for sure because he knows it much better than any of us do but I think players need to and their agents and their families and those who are advising them need to consider these authors very carefully before they get into it like would I go to a club like Tum Ketul yes would I go to Goa maybe not you know and a kid like so Anikey Jadav playing as a striker he won't play as a striker bro he won't play as a striker so for him to spend 3 months at Blackburn Rovers preparing for next season might physically put him in position to be able to compete against some of the guys who will be playing for his position you know so I like that there's thought going into the whole process at every step of the way I know that some of these things are more PR driven than anything else and all that but still the fact is that if he plays at Blackburn or spends 3 months at Blackburn at the training camp he will come back physically stronger hopefully inshallah come back physically stronger more intelligent more exposed to how football works at a higher level and then be able to bring that on to the training pitch when he joins up with Tum Ketul teammates so the potential is there and I really think and I hope the arrows have a chance because this project was started once before when these boys were under Bob Houghton and the project was first started and then after the season it was because of money issues it was cut off again then resumed so I hope this is a project that whatever the league structure that evolves next season I hope it's a project that could continue what I want to say here is that you know they should continue of course I know that money but they should continue for one more year in the meantime in one year there will be under 17 the under 17 the coach by Viviano will be ready or in one or two years so if that's a plan it is good but then the players this year they have done well but next year if they can stay it will be great for the Indian side because they are going to you run the risk of getting stale also that you are performing for 2 years clubs are constantly knocking on your door till how long will you constantly keep on saying and the name of development you run the risk of being stale also motivation level yeah I know that those players wanting to get out from there because the money they think they can play of course some of them for sure they will play if Sunil as an Indian striker can play so well I feel that Sunil plays better football than some of the foreigners striker they want to be the next Sunil for sure they must be thinking it's a young guy 19 year old playing so well if Sunil can play we can also play but Sunil has got so much of game time before he went into ISL it has helped so I think they need to get but the problem is will they be staying back by getting less amount of money and not going with big money to big clubs I remember the first interview that we did with Gurpreet Singh Sandu I think it was 2014 or 15 when he was about to go abroad when he was going to Starbucks he wrote the story where patience he said was a critical element in his development process I think Randy will agree with this and maybe he can make a point yeah yeah see now brother if you see Gurpreet is the Bengal he was good but he was not the best and he went to Norway Norway he couldn't save any money and Gurpreet knows that but just to improve his game he stayed there for 4 years I think for 5 years he stayed there and look where Gurpreet is how much money is earning so whatever Siddhan said right now I agree because it's all depend on the player also if they are sensible enough if they know that staying by staying here they will improve their game then they should because money will surely follow but just because of 60-70 lakhs you went in and you don't get a chance to play and after that when you don't play for a year in this competitive football world it's very difficult to come back okay I'm going to pause this conversation here because I think this can go on for a while and this should go on for a while but I think the guys who are watching it are sort of drifting away so let's get it back to a slightly more romantic story again and I'm going to hit Ishwak again bringing it to Rihal Kashmir and he can give us a quick little review of Rihal Kashmir season and then I'll see you guys after Hi, regarding Rihal Kashmir I think it was very clear from the beginning only when they qualified from the 2nd division to the 1st division they said now the immediate thing is build a good strong team to survive in this league not like this year ahead or the next year it's relegated so that was clearly in their plans to stay in this league not to win this league or finish in top end or something like that it was just to okay even if we get one place above relegation we'll be happy so we'll build up on that and then try to make a good team for the next year but what a performance they had in this season I think brilliant like really tough to beat in home and unfortunately they had to play that last match away from their home which costed them actually a league for me but and the less I think they will be happy where they finished and let's hope they will do good in Super Cup René, you also commented on several Rihal Kashmir games this season so your observations on what they've been like the Rihal Kashmir coach should get all the credit if you see the names you don't even know when was the last time he played in any club if you see Rihal Kashmir and the player, there is one player I heard he played well against he assists two goals against the free guy and he didn't even get a club honestly he was not getting a club in any of the I-League, Surya Sandrasing and he scored six goals or something and six goals and he assists a lot so imagine a player who was not getting any club in the I-League went to Rihal Kashmir and then he performed so well so then the credit should go to the coach also for selecting him and then played almost all the match we give credit to Chennai City coach, the Singaporean really have done well but we shouldn't forget the Rihal Kashmir coach for what they have done with the team we don't know many players from there but the way they have played also they are a tough team to play they came to Manipur, beat Narokai and went back and then the way they have played and the guy there is one player called Robertson, I think that's coach Sun he can play in any position, striker, defender so then there are many players, they all are not great players but as a team they are great players as a unit, they are a great team and they perform really well and I think the fact that they conceded far less goals than any other team absolutely, they had the most free treats they have kept 10 free treats this season so we talk about Pandit, we talk about open game when a beautiful game we see in ICT with Rihal Kashmir we see a counter attack game but what a philosophy this is also, they don't concede too many goals quick counter attack come back and wait again to start so two different kind but what a lovely football those two teams have played but just one very quick point I wanted to make a small point is that the Rihal Kashmir story extends way beyond the football field for me I mean the right points you guys have made on the football field think about the coach himself, he is a Scottish coach and he is in a part of the world where a lot of them have been given advisories to not be there they are coaching there how many Kashmiri boys are in that team a majority of the players have come from all over the country and have made their base in Kashmir, Srinagar despite all that is happening and they have continued to perform for that team so one should not get that they have brought their son to play the whole family has come I mean that is the perfect adjustment for the valley absolutely you need to have a big heart and big decision not at all, big decision, big heart and then every Kashmiri should feel great that he is a coach, I am a big fan of that coach a six time Scottish family winner a legend in Glasgow and stuff like that so I think boxing is a concept called Lineal Champion and Kashmir have beaten Chennai city twice this season both times they have faced them so the Kashmiri story will continue and we can only hope that we will see them further on now let's wrap up this show there is a lot of it everyone please one favourite best player only Indians though I will start with the coach on the panel first yes please one is not fair one you can't but then there is I would come up with two one striker and one defender striker Joey Zestin has been one of the best player I feel and then in the defender Gora Bora the guy who scored two goals in the decision making match I think both of them Gora Bora and Joey Zestin they both have done really really well so we can toss a coin whoever so we can if you have to choose one yeah who would you rather have at Naroka good question right now Joey Gora Bora I like how you did that even there I know because Naroka has been conceded we need one good defender fair enough so Gora in case you are watching this Siddhan not really going necessarily only on performance but for the fact that this guy has been someone who we have been watching now from the time he has been he was 15 years old and how he has consistently developed season after season whether it is in the national set up over the club side I would go with Boris the arrows with that I think phenomenal really solid got good pace got great heart 100% 100% has ability to get forward get that transition for me he is this phenomenal talent and I hope he does really really well so that brings us to you I would go with Boris as well and I am going to add to a point with Siddharth I agree with everything he is saying Boris is the stand out winger that India has been looking for and for me if you put Boris and Udanta I would put Boris ahead of Udanta just because Boris yeah man he gives you everything in defense he gives you people things going in front you see the Mohan Bagan game you brought up you saw that ability to just take on players this is something we don't see too often in Indian players and the pace which he breaks past players and then comes back to help his defenders out defenders out of position that is why for me Boris is the stand out player to watch out for but one more name which you hit from the top of the lace which is a dip he is found some consistency in that he is hitting the target with that so that could be a serious weapon for India going forward gentle smile from René D for the free kick no but Pandit said even even Siddhan Boris is a guy as a winger I think he will be perfect they don't have anyone at the back I think he has been playing as a wing back but like in Mohan Bagan match we have seen how dangerous he can be with that speed he will be in one or two years as a winger we will have if he can continue working the same or play the same in two years we will be able to see the best winger if he keep working and stay humble the problem is that if he can stay humble and work but René D you remember two years ago when we went to Boris's house in Imfal where we met his family there I think given the roots and where he comes from I think humility is something that will come naturally to him and I hope he will be able to very right there I hope he will be able to stay honest and stay real looking at the parents I feel that he will stay humble we don't hold his social media and stuff a lot of other people are surrounding players nowadays and so that humility and humbleness irrespective of what your background might be I think it's a little tough at this time especially when you are jumping from say a 10 lakh to 60 lakh and as happy as we are for players that is the real challenge I think he points out perfectly René so there you go the midfielder has picked a defender and the wingers have picked wingers any other comments? that's our show