 Next question is from Folvio the castle is lifting barefoot more beneficial in any way or should I just stick to my favorite shoes? Sure. Yeah, it depends. I love it. You know what this reminds me of this reminds me of again as a kid Trying to go help my dad do construction in the summer So it's the only time I'd ever do it during the during the year I was in school and whatever and I remember him telling me because I would work loves sometimes to handle, you know Heavy things and tiles and concrete and wood he tees you and not any say, you know I never used them when I was a kid my hands just got really tough now Of course my dad at nine years old was doing this and didn't do with this into the summer So he did this all the time so he did he worked but I'm like, oh cool I'm gonna get my hands tough So I didn't wear gloves and I immediately shredded my hands to the point where I had to tape them up and wear Band-aids and glad and gloves again and my dad's you know He kind of laughed and he goes, you know, I should have told you got to go slow You can't just jump into it because you're not ready This is what happens to some people with that with barefoot training. Yeah is that they go Oh, if I train barefoot, it'll strengthen my feet and my ankles and but meanwhile, they've always trained in supportive shoes They've always had some kind of a heel rise So then they go all the way barefoot all time and then they wonder why they develop plantar fasciitis Or hip issues or knee issues too hard too fast You are not ready like this takes some time to get to because if you look at like an anatomy picture of the bottom Just the foot forget the ankle and everything else just the bottom of your foot. It is covered in muscle Those muscles need to be strong and stable enough To support you to do your heavy lifting that normally do in your supportive shoes. I just I wish I did it more I mean, there's definitely It's beneficial to work your way in that direction. I would say definitely like takes a while So just walking around barefoot Getting used to that is the first step But then sort of building upon that but to be able to to feel your way through and connect to the ground and Stabilize with all those little muscles in the bottom of your feet and also like articulate your toes and find those those points of of You know like ground forces So what happens when you get in up into power and the pinnacle of your training is, you know How you can distribute, you know that force and and to be able to to create more ground forces It starts through your feet and what your feet are doing are so crucial and essential And so this is stuff that I try to teach athletes all the time And so it is beneficial to get rid of the shoes So you can really kind of feel your way and feel like the the forefoot the the pad of your foot and you know When you're when you're doing anything athletically, you're never flat foot You're not, you know your heels aren't on the ground in fact most positions like out on the field If you're if your heels are on the ground around you. Yeah, because you're not able to To transition you're not able to cut and move and be dynamic and so, you know, these are all considerations to have but There's definitely You know, there's a progression So you just got to really like slowly gradually Introduce yourself to just walking around a lot more frequently adding frequency to being barefoot Then start to kind of load, you know basic exercise at like lunges like, you know things where You know, you start adding dumbbells and then you start doing, you know, lateral training Then work your way to the heavy-loaded barbell situation So this is close to home for me because this has been my journey the last like five or six years I had terrible foot strength that terrible ankle mobility. I couldn't break 90 degrees in my squat And my my feet were sleepy as shit and I wanted to get to a place where I Addressed and fixed all that it just didn't happen overnight like when I got to the point where I was Working out barefoot. I did a lot of just barefoot walking first and I would start there very few people Except people hear us talk about that or they see a video maybe one of us posts and we're working out barefoot They're like, oh, I'm gonna start doing that. It's like well What you didn't see was that I just got in the habit of when I'd come home I would just for now and took my shoes off like when was how many people Walk in their house and just they take their shoes off for the rest of the day. They decided like oh, I'm home from work I'm not gonna wear shoes the rest of the day. How many people walk barefoot outside. Yeah, and then go outside So it started like that for me where I would just as soon as I was done working and I'm home Shoes off and then I would walk around my yard and be outside and I would just stay With my with my shoes off as much as I can if I I love going to the beach and walking in the sand With no shoes on and so I just started doing that a lot before I even decided to exercise So there's no exercise and then when I even started to exercise with no shoes on it started off with mobility work Not loading the barbell back squat It was just me do an ankle mobility and walk-in doing farmer walks real light stuff and working on posture Stability exercises that was when I was working on that jump to balance stuff And so I was doing a lot of balancing things with barefoot, but not loading a lot of stuff Once I got my ankle mobility in a good place my hip mobility a good place I had been walking around barefoot then I started to load the barbell and actually squat barefoot like that But that was a progression over, you know two two and a half years I mean you really need to stress that because I remember you going through this especially in the beginning And there were a couple times you had to take a couple steps back Yeah, because I remember like at one point you're like, oh my god I could squat barefoot all the way down then you added a little bit of load Oh got it back off again. Yeah, my hips bothering me It takes a while and can't consider this what you train is what you get good at So what do I mean by that? So if you look at like Like a boxer look at a boxer who trains with big gloves on They get really good at boxing with gloves on and blocking with gloves and understanding where they are in space You take those gloves off and they lose a little bit of that, right? So it's like training with a weight belt like you could get good at a weight belt That means you're not gonna be as good without a weight belt But if you don't train with a weight belt that means you're not as good as trained as other people who train with a weight belt So whatever you train is what you start to get good at and if you've always trained and you majority the time walk with Your shoes on and it's been most of your life. Yeah start which is taking your shoes on this is gonna take years This isn't like oh next month. I'm gonna do this. This is literally years and years and years I remember you're saying with your son, you know, you have a your your son now is you know How old is he now you know to two years old You always have kept the shoes off and I remember the first time he fell was cuz he had shoes on Yeah, cuz he was used to walk. Oh, he's still he's very clumsy with shoes on It's the funniest thing ever to watch him watch him because now it's I've trained him so much to be Barefoot that I can only keep shoes on him for a few minutes and then eventually he'll sit down and he'll he'll pull them off Feels weird. I'm sure yeah, so yeah, and you can see when he walks around. He's not as fast He's not as stable when he's got shoes on because he's so used to not having shoes on and so I've and some of the family I know they've seen that there's like aren't you worried then you don't you don't want to not be able to shoot I said I much rather him be uncomfortable in shoes than uncomfortable barefoot. Yeah, he's got a strong Plus you'll get plenty of opportunities. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. There's the shoe thing I'm less worried about it did it threw him off the only the only time He's ever fell was actually the first time that Katrina put shoes on him It took for a walk and then he fell forward because you've never seen a picture of a hunter gatherer modern hunter gatherers feet Just from the top it does not look anything like the average person's foot their toes are splayed out Like very strong. They're really looking. Yeah, and our feet are all like toes smashed like maxes are starting to look like that He has like really wide flat look at this feeder like this. It looks like little hands. Yeah, you can see those disgusting Serious Yeah, dude, you can like spread them out and grip things and like like Just don't feed me something with This you tickle you into the covers No, that's terrible freak out