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It's just a word would be for We're not used to this in San Francisco We're not good with the temperature and the humidity and the whatnot But yeah, it's been it's been really warm. Hopefully you guys are comfortable wherever you guys are out there in the world Missing Tom Merritt, but yeah, he's gonna be gone all this week So we're gonna have a great list of hosts for Daily Tech news show and special guests We might even try to start a cooking show unbeknownst to Tom Tom doesn't know this. No Tom love surprises. I'm sure I'm sure you'll know They'll be one of the dishes we make All right. Well, let's jump right into the headlines The New York Times published a long article this weekend detailing some of the hardcore Workplace policies at Amazon comm according to sources Amazon workers are subjected to purposeful Darwinism And are encouraged to tear apart one another's ideas and meetings work long and late and send secret feedback to one another's bosses Which employees say is frequently used to sabotage others The article also reports that some workers who suffered from cancer Miscarriages and other personal crisis said they had been evaluated unfairly or edged out rather than given time to recover After the article was released Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos sent a memo to his workforce saying the article doesn't describe the Amazon I know or the caring Amazonians I work with every day Bezos asked his employees to report any examples of the abuse of culture described in the piece to human resources or Directly to him. He gave his email in the memo as well We'll be talking more about this in our discussion session later in the show Although I will say for anyone who wants to imagine Montgomery Burns From the Simpsons saying this article doesn't describe the Amazon. I know or caring Amazon. It's like I have I have literally an arm length's worth of stuff to verbiage on all right Tech crunches reporting that Google's next version of its Android operating system is called Marshmallow The most recent update Android 6 developers get me that the next version of Android is almost ready for consumers But doesn't have a release date just yet in the Daily Tech news show predicts a sudden wave of clever marshmallow puns Metaphors head into your RSS feed starting right now. I have a feeling that things are gonna get a little sticky around here It's begun The Verge may have stumbled upon a leaked photo of what might be Google's revamp Nexus 5 Google was rumored to be working on new models with partners Huawei and LG to make two new Nexus smartphones The picture which first surfaced in the Nexus Indonesia Google plus community shows the LG logo on the back of a white Nexus device The back also features a camera lens and a circle that looks to be the rumored fingerprint scanner No date has been set for either phone. I want a new phone I want a new phone and I I always wanted the Nexus 5 and they discontinued it and Then they brought the Nexus 6 is like, oh, this is gonna be cool And then I saw the size of the Nexus 6. It's like no, it's totally not what I want I Honestly believe there is a kind of an optimal size for a smartphone because at least for guys pants You can kind of put it in your pocket and I'll have to worry about it So much of this is tempered by the size of guys pants. It is as is Size does matter. All right Apple Insider reports that OS 10. There's another another OS 10 zero day Raised privileged exploit that would allow an attacker to gain root access Without using a password the exploit was discovered by Italian developer Luca Todesco Who used a combination of attacks including a null pointer deference in OS 10's IO kit to drop a proof of concept payload into the Root shell he basically used this to show people this is possible Todesco did not disclose a problem to Apple before sharing it publicly early Sunday a move that many researchers Security researchers Condemn now all versions of OS 10 Yosemite, which is the one I'm running are affected But the problems seem to be mitigated in our capitan, which is the next iteration of OS 10 That's good, but that's still a ways out. So and so I mean this is the thing with with security Flaws is that you need to be responsive to it, especially when you have a huge user base that, you know For some reason or another believes that they're invulnerable or perhaps a low moving target Now this is not to say that there's an actual exploit out there floating around This is just a this is a demonstration of what could possibly happen So don't don't freak out just yet, but you know, it's most most things be careful What you download and they'll go wildly clicking on buttons like my dad does which Evolves me remote desktoping and I'm doing everything he's done. Oh man. There's a new there's a new startup That's coming out of Y Combinator called Eden and it's essentially the thing we've always wanted Which is on call people to go to your parents house and fix their computers. So you don't have to I Already had a suicide note I already had this business model in mind for for people of my parents generation and I don't Derogatory sense, but it would be an Elvis themed kind of tech supporters We can't help you man And then it just be kind of doing like a hunk a hunk of burning Makes it makes them feel a little more comfortable makes them feel a little happier about the whole experience I think you add Roger. Yeah It's like an early bird special, you know, like Applebee's or something. Yeah, it's kind of okay Moving on a PC Mag reports that a company named Polara has introduced a wearable with a flexible display that can lay flat Or wrap around a wrist, you know Just like the slap bracelet you inevitably find in your CES backpack every year the wove band Promises a flexible low-power touch display which combines the company's digital fabric technology with electronic ink film allowing for an always-on display Polara is also working on flexible OLED displays flexible sensors and flexible logic circuits It is expected to launch mid-march sorry mid 2016 with free dev units available for pre-order in September Wow, that's kind of cool. Actually, I love wearables and I'm always excited about new new devices coming out on in that I don't know that that doesn't really roll off the tongue. Maybe if they just called it moving Mmm. I don't know. I expect some flexible accounting in the future from that company All right, the Wall Street Journal reports that sprint is doing away with two-year contracts It will shift entirely to a model where customers lease their smartphones. The plan is called iPhone forever Much like a James Bond movie it starts at 22 bucks a month for an iPhone in addition to a monthly service fee Customers can upgrade to the latest iPhone each year as soon as it comes to it becomes Verizon communication said they would no longer sell contracts earlier this year and T-Mobile did away with contracts two years ago Leaving AT&T as the only major carrier that so offers to subsidize new smartphone purchases Which means they may keep it because they're the only game in town for that kind of thing And that's how they've effectively kept me and their iron grab grasp for the last Years or so I do kind of have an issue of leasing your phone like you would a car It is for my for my age at perspective. It seems kind of RTO E RTO rent-to-ownish. Okay. Okay. Yeah, remember that rent-to-own For sure For you on what what what contracts do you have a contract on I use T-Mobile? I don't I don't have a contract. I it's like whatever they have right now And I have to say I managed to cut $35 off my bill and still get the same sort of okay service I have right now. I've always had I am on I'm on AT&T and I've kept the same plan for ever because I was grandfathered into their Unlimited data plan and so I've been too scared to to give that up because I use a lot of data I use a lot of data, too But when I look at my usage it's actually not all that much in T-Mobile They'll penalize you if you go over but it's not like they bill you more. They just make everything incredibly slow So if you're a big entertainment conglomerate that owns cable network internet properties And you have perhaps a spotty history of customer service How do you convince creators to use your brand new web content streaming service? Well, if you're Comcast you offer potential partners 70% of the potential advertising revenue Wall Street Journal reports at Comcast new watchable streaming portal is in talks with content producers like vice media box media onion ink BuzzFeed and awesomeness TV in Contrast YouTube and Facebook only give creators 55% of ad revenue With a similar streaming service in the works over at Verizon and Facebook and YouTube unlikely to let their creators flee for More profitable pastures. Let's say it all together now be gone the rev share wars have It's very interesting. I Still take the view that Comcast is kind of doing that in order to to kind of bury the competitors and in much the same way that Some manufacturers will basically sell products below cost in order to bury the competitors and that Magipping once they're gone will raise prices again. Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of neat I mean not neat it's it's it's it's telling because Comcast has obviously the money to do something like this to be able to Throw money at a problem and have it be though the winner But YouTube and Facebook definitely seemed to have more More cred with the content creators at this point I don't know if that will continue on or maybe people are frustrated with the low amount of rev share that they've been Getting from these creators over time Facebook is even more problematic because they've been accused of broadly stealing content from YouTube content creators And keeping the money. I Yeah, they've been having a trouble with that a lot and you know, it's more and more Things like this kind of get into mix is gonna get a lot more complicated. I do not see a very clear and easily Delinable like field where it's like a if I go with YouTube. I'm like this much I mean, there's gonna be so much kind of this back and forth and I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of back room deals with certain high profile Creators versus just the average creator All right now if you're a drone operator, here's a interesting story from the BBC They say a new study concludes that bears show signs of stress when drones are flown near them Researchers at the University of Minnesota put health tracking collars on six bears and measure data during 17 drone flights The heart rate of all the bears increased when drones flew Flew within 20 meters of their location and all of the bears did not usually display a strong behavioral response like attacking the drones or You know running away to the airborne observers Reaching up and back them out of the sky with their massive bear paws it did Indicate that they were stressed and they usually tell that by heart rate Unmanned aerial vehicles are useful for wildlife researchers So the study concluded that the more research is needed to see if bears get used to drones over time So more drones are needed to find out if drones are stressing out the bears Well, it's one you know, they used to wonder if certain animals would get over stressed from being their airports airports Birds were shown to basically go deaf because of the roar of the engines And it would be a hazard because it would get sucked in the engine and the engine would go out This could be one of those things where you know, we need to give it some time I'm sure when bears first saw the first railroad come through in a train. They were freaked out. It's like what the heck is that? Yeah, but I feel like I would the drone think I feel like we're gonna get more amateur Drone photography taking place in these previously unpopulated areas where bears perhaps, you know kind of go to chill out I don't know it is. I mean definitely worry about the bears Well, it's a wildlife in general. I think people underestimate the amount of annoyance that people cause toward wildlife. It's the reason why the US has a law against being too close to Sea lions or other sea mammals because it can cause them to stress. You know what you going around poking them, right? Oh, look, I can poke away at school. It's like no you leave them alone So yeah, leave them alone Hey, you know what else shows signs of stress when drones are flown to near to them? Firefighters. Yes, the Vancouver Sun reports that a small drone entered the airspace above an unconfined wildfire near Oliver, British Columbia on Sunday afternoon Grounding the entire fleet of firefighting aircraft It took about five hours to get the eight helicopters and air tanker team back in the air Forcing members of the Oliver District Fire Department to climb steep rocky hillsides with hoses in their hands So, you know just a reminder if you have a drone and there's a fire burning nearby Land your drone. Just land your drone. Hold on. I'm gonna say it one more time If you are flying your drone near a wildfire Land your drone and just for the heck of it call the fire department You know if you see a fire with your drone land the drone call the fire department Let the professionals handle it You don't need photos of the fire more than the firefighters need to put at the fire out I think that's more It might be one of those rules of the road like you know when you're in a car And you're driving you see an emergency vehicle coming up behind you and you hear it You pull over to the right and you let them you know let these people do their job And especially in a in a case where you have a natural disaster or a forest fire It's doubly so all right, St. 71 398 sent us the news that IBM and Gokhan, oh wait, and then now the news from you And Now the news from you all right as we know maybe we get many of our news items from reddit and they are picked for us by you the viewers as well as red followers and You sir ST 71 398 sent us the news that IBM and cacanical have announced They're teaming up to put in boot to Linux on mainframe hardware The TechCrunch reports that the unit is called the Linux one is part of a broader IBM strategy to drive mainframe usage In a wider audience by offering a monthly subscription model more involvement with open source projects and contributing mainframe code to the open Mainframe project the new mainframes come in two flavors both named after Types of Penguin the first is called Emperor and runs an IBM Z13 the other is a small mainframe called Rockhopper Designed for a more entry-level mainframe buyer just I'm trying to picture that is that like a regional bank IBM lands between 10 and 20 mainframe customers a quarter Gokhanical and IBM have previously worked together on the open power project It's very interesting because for the longest time people thought that IBM would totally move out of The hardware market altogether now they did move out of the PC market But IBM always made a bulk of its money on its business to business stuff and people thought they're just gonna go pure service But so this is very interesting that they're that they still want to kind of flog IBM originated hardware I mean, it's great Very interesting stuff. Well, thank you very much for submitting those over on the subreddit and that is the headlines All right moving into our main discussion story today It was really quite a big piece of news this past weekend We don't typically get stories like this kind of happening on the weekend But it was a buzz on social media everywhere The New York Times published a piece called inside Amazon Wrestling big ideas in a bruising workplace and this was written by Jody Cantor and David Stratfeld It's really generated a lot of discussion around the limits that a company kind of the the stress that a company puts on its Employees in order to succeed and what a culture like that does to affect the work life balance of the people working there and Jeff Bezos responded to this kind of flat out being like hey everybody Here's this article read this and let me know if you're experiencing any kind of these issues because as we mentioned in the headlines There have been reports of people Getting in trouble for not being able to complete work after going through serious illnesses family emergencies miscarriages Workers kind of fighting each other and going going on to the phone system to lodge complaints to their Superiors about their co-workers without giving their co-workers a chance to respond Things like having to respond to emails after hours And if you don't respond to that email getting a text message from your manager being like, you know, why do you why you No answer my email Go ahead right Well, you know, let me first say that you know, I don't think it's a particular issue Only to one that's on us Amazon specific issue not confined to Amazon Yeah, and I think you remember at least like eight ten years ago There's that letter that the wife of a EA programmer posted about the working conditions at EA for like creating game And it in many ways are very very similar in that it's a very kind of results oriented culture I will say that I find fine Bezos's reply a little passive aggressive You might not see that way, but I do it just is well, it's not the culture. I'm aware aware of And I think I think it's very interesting because I think there's two things at play There's one to make a very successful business, but also the to create a work environment where people want to come back Over and over again each day It's like oh, I want to go back to work because I really believe in this company really believe In the things they do and though at least from the the article There were some very troubling things in that they have an annual culling like they purposely cull out It's like well These are the weaker members and and we need to cut them off and bring on fresh fresh blood This was an interesting that was an interesting piece especially because it said that was what was written in the article And then we had a response via LinkedIn from a current employee and manager at Amazon who said no The culling does not happen. I'm a manager. I take care of employees. You know, he's kind of like a mid-level manager I've never heard of this this does not exist and then New York Times came back with another response being no We talked to people at Amazon who went on record saying that this exists So I mean I understand like a business has to kind of look at its employees and protect their bottom line Potentially get rid of the people who aren't performing. That's what working in a company is right I mean I you said that a culling is very bad But I maybe the word a culling is very bad, but is that just good business practice? So my my concept by the behind calling and it's not that I don't believe you need to to get To let go of underproductive or non-performing employees. Absolutely not what I'm saying culling However implies that you are essentially raising a stock of people and then you're going through and you're cutting them out Like you're okay. I'm gonna train train and I'm not hiring train these group of people and it's gonna just be like the like You know when you join you want to? Apply for special forces or the Navy SEALs. They basically have a washout rate right for Navy SEALs I think it's 50% and and our special forces It's like 40 or something the whole idea of course is that as you go through it You're just kind of letting go people And just keeping the cream of the crop now What are they called in the Hunger Games the is this a Exactly like that it's exactly like that I don't think this is like this to me this sounds more like trimming the fat Well, but my argument then is then you have bad hiring practices to begin with and you don't have a clear idea of Who you want or what you want and you're just hiring in order to fill spots and then whittling away because you didn't do a good front-end Hiring job in the first place and I've seen this firsthand I've worked in more than a few companies where I've seen managers make really bad hiring decisions Based on some, you know, I would say questionable Parameters all this person's a great writer. They were so what's great writing is like 2% of their job That's not what we need them for and so I think you know it does speak to a Particular mentality and I'm not sure of Bezos is this kind of person But it doesn't sound like it doesn't it really does sound like a type a kind of company if you're typing a person like you're competitive You're gonna you got your game face on, you know, you're ready to play every day 24-7 That's a kind of let's let's think of it in terms of corporate culture at any large tech company or really frankly at any Period So they are a hugely successful, you know profit-driven But they are oriented business there. What what what like well? No, no, are you talking about Amazon or just company in general Amazon right now? And so of course they are they're out there trying to hire the best and the brightest there It's hugely competitive in this field. There's lots of companies that need smart people working for them And but then I look at the things like oh, yeah, you know We people were crying at the office, you know people are working late hours or working 60 a 60 70 hour weeks And I'm like, okay, you know I worked a 50 hour a week job at CNET and I cried at my desk sometimes because I was stressed out like you can have Have a job. It's not as stressful as working at Amazon and make it a stressful job or have a stressful situation Where you're gonna be breaking down. I think that goes that works across the board in any field in any environment I don't think Amazon is unique in this situation. Hi. No, I definitely don't think Amazon is unique I think it definitely is a kind of It is a corporate culture that's kind of risen up over, you know subsequent decades of you know We need to we need to always succeed. We always need to be the number one We need to be at the top. We need to do this. We need to do that. We need to maintain a level of Perfection we need to maintain a level of turnover in our finances and stuff, but at the same time, you know, it's it's one of those I You know, I kind of sound like a weird liberal lefty, which I'm not by any stretch is that this kind of growth You know, you're forever trying to meet growth targets, right? The only way your success was the company's growing And it's not something I particularly like agree with People used to in the thing to understand is Amazon is a retail business, right? I mean it is a tech business, but ultimately at the heart of it. It's a retail business It's in the business of selling things to consumers and for the longest time people say you need to be the Walmart You know Walmart's succeeding because Walmart does business. They trim the fat They make sure that you know you guys get by with the least With the with the as much with as little as you need to get done because you know, that's just waste You know, we have high tone turnover staff, but then you have companies like Costco's like whoa, whoa, whoa You can have a business that's just as successful, but you don't need to treat people like a conveyor belt of labor, right? Okay, we used up these people. That's fine We got five hundred thousand more beaten down our doors to be you know to be one of our Cube farm things the other thing that I want to say is that This probably doesn't apply across the board people who work at different parts of the company You know like for example, some people who work in accounting aren't the same people work in the warehouse We're the same people working creative who work in marketing, you know, these are different areas some might be better Some might be worse. So I would say I wouldn't brandish or You can talk to yeah, it's you can talk to employees at any big company You know, whether it be in tech or any other industry and you will get Different stories depending on who and when you talk to them, you know I've heard the culture at Amazon has greatly improved in recent years And maybe some of these responses are from employees who are no longer there and you know There's a lot of employees who are speaking about this particular article saying none of this is true others are saying Yeah, some of this is true But not all of it was kind of put in a bad light and others are saying, you know If you don't like it and this isn't the place for you, you know, there's other opportunities out there You know, this is what our corporate culture looks like this is how we function in order to succeed And it might not be for everyone Yeah, and it's not something like I would say like that Amazon is evil for doing. I just that's their culture You know, I can also see the reverse. I mean for during the 80s IBM and GM were accused of being too bureaucratic to govern They had multiple layers to make sure that everyone was, you know Taking care of her all the issues were addressed and that really kind of slowed the way they did business because now you had to Meet with five people instead of one I don't know. I mean in It's not the least the the Amazon that's described in the New York Times article is not a place I would want to work at personally, but I have worked 60 70 hours easily You know for next to nothing because there was this desire to push forward to kind of like Oh, I have my hands on something important. I want to make it the best it can be and You know if it means I'm working, you know from 9 o'clock in the morning until 11 o'clock in the evening So be it. I'll get it done. Well, if you're passionate about it, then it's it's worth the time put in, right? But I will I will sorry. I would add one thing. I I was very very fortunate to work at the places. I've had Because I've had managers and had people who were managing me who say like look You got some vacation time. You should probably take some vacation time Because it's like, you know You're gonna burn yourself out and you're gonna be useless to us if you're burnt out because you know, yeah We can hire someone else, but you've got to train them up. We gotta do this You're intimately familiar with our operation. You're no good to us You know in a state of kind of, you know, you know shell shock So, you know for lack of a better term and to be fair I don't think anybody here Roger or myself are saying that it's okay to penalize people based on having Cancer or miscarriages or any other kind of medical or family emergency like that is definitely I don't know what what instance that kind of thing was happening in but that's yeah That's that's pretty bad if that's even happened to one or two people. That's too many So I think that about wraps it up But if you if you guys out there if you work at Amazon and want to lend your comments to this story for a future episode Send them on into feedback at daily tech news show calm Would love to to hear what you guys think about that But let's jump into our pick of the day our pick of the day comes from Jason Cotting and Sandy, Utah Love Sandy, Utah. I have been there. This is my pick for a driving app. It's called carm car home ultra Not harm car home ultra It presents a new home screen on your phone when it connects to the cars Bluetooth This in combination with my CD mounted phone holder gives me a great and safe interface for my phone while driving now My phone presents big buttons so I can minimize distraction to no more than operating my radio I use it mostly for listening to podcast and music Dev is very responsive and has added a couple of features. I requested things I like about car home ultra a Simon a button such as tasker tasks media control fast forward rewind play pause One touch navigation to get home individual contacts for phone dialing one touch for sending my wife and SMS and I'm headed home You can customize colors with day and night mode There's a digital speedometer battery level indicator Multiple audio app controls and auto on off a Bluetooth connection and suppression of notifications I use this in combination with some tasker tasks every time I drive. I just wanted to pass it along That's great. I still get worried about people looking at their phones at all while they're driving though I know some of us can't get away from it. I Usually asked my wife to look at my phone and then she she's my she's my in real life. Siri. It's like read The worst I do is probably like change a track on on my phone while I'm at a stop sign or a stop light And then you know people are going back and I'm sorry So that's probably the worst I get but what I'm driving when I'm in motion. It's eyes on the road Belmont. That's what they say That also the metal. Yeah, you can send your picks to feedback at daily tech news show calm And you can find Tom's picks over at daily tech news show calm slash picks All right, we've got some messages these come from the email as well Rob writes into say I kept thinking about writing But was finally spurred to do so by a show this week Where I think it was Scott described the EU as picking on US companies of you Which has been repeated by various people over the life of the show I'm a Brit and as I know you are a BBC reader You will be aware that knocking the EU is considered a sport over here, but just sometimes they do something right I think you guys come from the angle that wholesome honest mom-and-pop US company unfairly discriminated against by evil EU where the other side of that is US monster company attempts to crush local competition by charging less than cost then ramps up prices and repatriates profits Neither of those above statements are realistic and while protectionism is rarely a good thing Neither is simply opening your markets without limits and allowing foreign companies to stifle homegrown Alternatives my limited understanding is that the US makes it harder for EU companies to operate there Then we do for US companies to operate here just my thoughts You know, it's there's a little truth in everything, but there's also a lot of them I would I would like to call it mythologizing where people kind of take something and take a little molehill and build The Himalayas out of it and you know, it's true It's but I mean part of it is you know, not you but certain European countries have had a history of bribing For contracts, especially when it comes to overseas orders in Latin America Asia Africa And the US is by no means like absolved of that, but we do actually have laws in place that make it illegal to bribe for contracts I Think part of it is Quite honestly a cultural difference In Europe, it's it's not you know having a monopoly is not considered to be a Negative thing especially if it's a national champion if it's an airline if it's a power company Especially the friends are very protective Where the US is like well, okay, it's very Darwinistic. It's you know, if you succeed you succeed if you don't You fall you should although in recent cases, you know supporting GM and a couple of other companies or even Chrysler in the 80s With a no-cost loan You know that thing that's been tested Ultimately, it's really all about one one country making sure they're they're in the best position to succeed and every country does it Everyone you would say that American I am an American and darn proud of it. If I had a Lee Greenwood album I would be playing it right now We're gonna get you the American flag scarf that we gave Patrick Beja had nerd tackler so you can rock that on the show Up next we have one from Bruce Bruce from yes We get heatwaves in Canada Peterborough who writes on last Friday show the pending release of iRobots robotic lawnmower was discussed like it was something new Oh boy Husqvarna Husqvarna has been making them for a while. Although they're not cheap. They start at $2,400 It's because they make motorcycles It's a say the name again Husqvarna Husqvarna. They're I think they're Eastern European I'm gonna say Hungarian. I could be wrong. I don't remember with that brand All right Also the discussion of the roll jam device to capture rolling codes from key fobs reminds me of Stephen King's first detective crime novel Mr Mercedes which was published in 2014 the villain in that book uses a similar device and King even acknowledges the development of rolling Codes in an attempt to prevent hijacking of key fob codes Fascinating I think that book was great I Think I've read one Stephen King book and I've never picked up another which part read I Think was Kujo. Hey, I was the first Stephen King novel. I read it's like No, and I think you young to that by the way. I read in junior high. So it was a little older Yeah, I was I think we probably read it around the same time. I was not junior high just yet All right. 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That's the sound about right. I don't think Tom can eat jelly beans anymore. Can't he not eat jelly beans? I don't think so. I made that a rumor, but I don't think he can eat jelly beans digestive issues All right, I'm driving this thing into the ground our email address is feedback at daily tech news show comm You can call us at five one two five nine daily That's five nine three two four five nine and you can listen to the show live Monday through Friday at 4 p.m Eastern at player that alpha geek radio comm and of course visit our website at daily tech news show comm We've got Patrick Beja and Allison Sheridan to fill in for Tom tomorrow. Thank you guys so much for listening We'll see you next time The show is part of the frog pants network get more at frog pants comm Enjoy Those awesome guys you make a good podcast All his money on I was like I was grasping for straws. I was like what what could what can I joke about Tom spending all his patreon money on? producers jelly Of course Where's Bryce where'd Bryce go come back Bryce come back Know I would imagine that Bryce made a very smart decision, which was if he played the music it was gonna cut off you talking Oh, why there's Google hangout ducking is so hard to get right If the person who's actually talking plays the music obviously they can control it But if you talk and you're any bit lower than the music it'll just hear the music and it won't hear you Oh, I'll clip you out. It'll just clip you out and Really good at getting that right and I am not did not come through. No, we didn't hear it So it was a little bit lower it Lower than Veronica. Oh and the other thing I just On my end so it'll show up on my recording. Yeah, oh, so it might have been muted You were muted. I muted myself right after the show. I was gonna check the audio recording You weren't you were not unmuted during the outro, so we didn't hear the audio of you playing the outro No, I you were unmuted. I was unmuted during the outro. I muted right after the show ended. Okay What should we call it? Let's see. Yeah, great show. Let's head over to showbots TV. There was only one Really? I like slam is on. Yeah, I really like slam is on that's a good one I will vote for it There was another one. I liked that was the right to bear drones Yeah, I can't bear the drones Drone and bear it so many bear and drone puns. I like stop land and call I think they should make that a PSA immediately. Yeah We should do a video of that that'd be pretty funny There's no good to us dead I feel bad. I called zoe zoe brings bacon. I called her zoe loves bacon She's like I do also love bacon. I don't know if it sounds like a mild like threat. Raj is no good to us dead Sorry attack of the amazon It's gonna be slam is on it's just gonna be slam is on Jenny Jenny has spoken Yeah, so brace holler at me with any issues you may be having with the publishing Okay, uh, let me go in Take your time. We're not in any rush Um, I have to be here till like nine o'clock tonight Is there anything is there anything else you need from me? I'll do the standard stuff I do. Okay. Awesome. Hey, do you want to do the video stuff? Yes. Are you okay? Yes, okay great into that um But the video from youtube Yeah, and then um, let's see. There was one other thing. Oh, there was sky It wasn't like an email for the show But this guy wrote this michael keeper wrote this amazing email that I wanted to read in the bow show Which was to tom and jenny Congratulations to team dtns moving up to second place in the movie drop after such a slow start Ant-man and san angeles both brought in over 150 million and mi rogue nation is almost there Just cannot beat the super gross income of jurassic world Best wishes on hanging on to second place It's an amazing email michael keeper, but it is also a dagger in my heart You're taking this pretty hard jenny. I gotta say I always do because like last year. Here's why here's why here's why Last year we had four movies and every bow is like you can't win with four And we were like watch us and then we came in like fourth We had the opposite strategy of like picking up all the leavings after people were You know bid themselves out on ultron and jurassic world being like We're just gonna have a great slate of seven movies and blah blah blah and then we still came in second So We can't quite get it right. You can't be dinosaur dinosaurs are hard to be You can't I mean really Jurassic world is this generation's Jurassic park And if they don't beat you they eat you So they win anyway, they win no matter what yeah That's the title for the show if they don't beat you they eat you Yeah, I actually think I actually think you should contact a fire department Veronica and do a psa a real one For drones because this is ridiculous. It upsets me so Much this was an article. I read about a couple of weeks ago actually That this was this has been an ongoing issue because the the helicopters can't land They can't even fly in the airspace where there's a drone because if they hit the drone, they're gonna crash So it's like it's a big problem it's uh, I don't think people understand that aircraft have a very wide Have a very wide buffer in order to deal with You know to deal with Not an unintended but unplanned for Emergencies and it's not like a car right you just can't pull over to the side of a road Can't pull over and you're by cloud and wait for something to clear. Yeah, you have to sit on the cloud So it's you know People need to understand that it's like oh, well, you know, it's I'm not doing anything Well, you might not be but it's it's still a risk Especially in an area with hot rising air People don't realize that that when you have heat like that it actually funnels air up And if you have a drone nearby it could get caught in an updraft and fly you can't control it anymore That goes right into the the chopper blades There was recently a fire on the five that was actually able to jump the five Because all the things were landed it burned up cars and it's just like it's so irresponsible and It pisses me off so much because like I've covered so many Damn forest fires where people are burned out of house and home And it's obviously only a matter of time until it's not just some unincorporated wilderness But it's like the hollywood hills You know, you know, I mean, it's also, you know, there's a lot it's not you mean not to say that people aren't important But you know, there's wildlife There's a lot of things that get affected by especially by man-made fires which are Not the the greatest thing for anyone But yeah, I mean really it's just being responsible You know, it might it might take a culture of people beating Beating in some sense and their fellow drone operators like dude, that's not cool. This is not cool Right, like it's like it's like kids with I should I say kids, but these are adults doing it or swatting That's like the most irresponsible thing to do and it's just like how old are you? They don't think about this stuff at all It's very it's very frustrating because it's You know, Jesus Christ, we're in the 21st century. You're still acting like a bunch of cavemen Um, all right. Well, you guys are awesome. Thank you so much. It's such a good show What a great way to kick off the week and thank you brice for doing the tech which just like made my day so much better Oh, yeah, you're welcome. Awesome. Thank you all. Thank you. Um, I wish me luck on getting my gaming pc If you have any problems, give me a call. All right. Talk to you guys soon. All right. Bye And then uh, I can stop the broadcast. Okay. Goodbye youtube