 Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101. Sing that, I mean, can you go word for word on every song, Walk That Walk, Hit a Lick, I hit, not hit a lick, from hit a lick to walk that walk to, I wanna catch one that he ain't even thinking about in one of them that just on that first album that you just wasn't just singing all the time, right? So, yeah, like, man, I done probably done so many shows that the songs I performed like, once I'm in that mode, I'm in that mode. You feel me? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I come from where everything was on the spot. And I tell people this all the time, I think that was another thing that was a, some people can say it's an advantage or disadvantage during the time where we was coming out during that Dallas Boogie era. That was the first time Dallas was getting attention from mainstream or how you wanna look at it or in a rap way. So, what it taught me, cause everybody was coming, I was a mixtape rapper. I used to have a lot of mixtapes. That's how I got PV Poppin'. I was just mixtape. Everybody knew me for rapping, mixtapes, kind of like freestyles, boom, boom, boom. I had no singles, none of that. When the Dallas Boogie movement came, that's when they was coming with them dance song, you had Lil Shine with the check out my lean and Fat Pimpin' was out with the rap daddy, boom, boom, boom, and everybody was coming with these little wheel head, my Dougie. Bone, Bone say he had his song after you but he didn't like you cause he said you was, everything he was trying to do, you was already doing it. But he respected you. He's another one that he, on the show, he was competitive at PV. Then he was like D'Roll, man. He different. He was one like, he just a work horse, man. Fair of you. Same year. D'Roll, D'Roll, D'Roll. Whose song was the biggest during time? Cause yeah, they walked at wall. D'Roll, D'Roll's always been the biggest. D'Roll, yeah, D'Roll is probably the hardest working person I've seen work towards something that was, that's literally impossible. I've never seen somebody work as hard as D'Roll. That's on everything. Like I work as hard as I do now because of D'Roll. Like he was- That's a good, that's a big shout out. Like he literally, like when we was at PV, he hit the ground running. Like everybody else worried about everything else, bitches, this, this, this. He out there, he found somebody that recorded and he had a CD that he came with. You know what I'm saying? He was pumping that CD. You know what I mean? I was too ashamed to pump mine, but he was pumping it on. He was 21, 22. No, he was 18. No, you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I was both 18. 18. That's what I'm saying, freshman year. Just freshman year at PV, he hit the ground running. He was selling, and then he made a CD. He got like all the rappers in the UC and all the rappers that he could think of or that claim they rap, except for me, of course. Yeah. And he did this mixtape and did on the bus, the touch it, the bus to touch it. They all did a verse on the bus to touch it. Like that was freshman year. He put a project out every year until walk that walk and everything happened. Really? Like he literally was on it anytime. There was a like a concert, like boost mobile to come or some shit like that. He find a way to perform. Like you look up, we be in the audience. You know what I'm saying? Vibing, you know. You come out before me. You like this dude. And we be sitting there like, how the fuck is this nigga before me? And we sit here, why are we not performing? Why is this thing? Because he had that drive, he figured it out. Like that's what I'm saying. And it was just, it was, you know, it goes from jealousy to inspirational because you just like, how the fuck is this thing going on? And then you be like, I need to be doing whatever the fuck he's doing. Like whatever the fuck he's doing, I need to be doing what he's doing. He respect you a lot. When I got to PV, everybody was a rapper, but nobody rap. That was the first thing I noticed. Everybody was a rapper. Like when I say everybody was a rapper, freestyle sessions was everywhere. All around the campus, blunt, boom. Everybody in their dorm rooms, like everybody rap. But then when nobody a rapper, I was like, how does everybody rap? And then I had figured that out quick. I was like, ain't nobody really doing it. So I was like the first one at PV that we hit these things called hump day. Hump days were. Yeah, yeah. We heard about y'all hump day and it was party 12 in the midday. Right in the middle of the dang day. And it's packed, you know what I'm saying? So the first time I went to hump day and saw that, I was like, I didn't understand like how when nobody didn't see what I saw. What I saw was a lot of people in the opportunity. You wanted to rap at that thing. Yeah. So I was the first one to go up and grab the mic and rap at hump day. What did you rap? Do you remember? I did a song called, so remember I would tell you I had mixtapes popping on that mixtape. I had a song called, bitch, I'm from Dallas. Hey. It was off the hood, nigga. Gorilla's over. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And like it was popping on the mixtape. Everybody fuck with it on the mixtape. Nobody really knew me like by face except the people who knew me. You know what I'm saying? Cause this is when I was a freshman and like y'all was a freshman and everybody else was pretty much upper class. Only people who knew me knew me. So I was see hump day and DJ Miracle be DJing. You know what I'm saying? I knew who Merck was. I saw it as an opportunity. Like if I go up here and grab this mic everybody for to know who I am now and I'm gonna rap. They're gonna either like me or not. And I was the first person to do that. And that's really how I literally turned PV up. Cause once I did that, I remember the first reaction. Everybody just stirred. Like it was even the people who knew me and knew my shit was hard. They would just stir everybody. Like it was just, it was something shocking cause nobody had done it. I thought he was gonna do it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, exactly. So it was more that type of energy. Did it discourage you or did it encourage you? To me, it just was what it was. I remember how I was feeling that day. I was just like, cause I wasn't gonna stay at PV. Like I was a hooper. You feel me? Oh, I know, I've been seen. I was supposed to go, I had a scholarship to St. Mary's, which is St. Antonio, which was a good basketball school. It was like, you had more opportunity than PV. You feel me? I had went to PV because my mama, she was just, she was like, come on. I had a big brother with the PV. She was like, you need to just go down to the freshman orientation. Just get yourself some options. And I went down to the orientation. It was like, the first thing that they said at the orientation was PV was seven to one. And I was like, seven to one, what? And it was seven females to one. I had, I wasn't aware that like school was like that. See, in my mind, I didn't even know college, especially when it's my ABCU or college in general, it's more female, way more females in college than dudes, or at least at that time. To me, I just saw that like, why wouldn't I have been there in PV? It was just a whole different, it was a whole different thing. You feel me? And then I saw that with my own eyes. It's been, you know what I'm saying? A teenager, whatnot. So I stayed down there for, for orientation. And then I met somebody that, you know what I'm saying? A little chick, shout out to her. She knows she is. You know, I stayed out there with her like for like a week. And by then, after that week, I was like, oh, I'm going to PV. Cause I had just saw enough. And you know what I'm saying? Cause deep down, even though I was hoping I had more opportunity then, I wanted to rap boy. I was already popping in high school from rapping, but it was just more intimate. I felt like I could control my, my destiny with rap then sports.